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price. as much as 4.9% in interest per month. that's 60% a year. >> there is a lot of trust supply for people to deal with us. we take possession of people's assets. these are assets that they want back. if we get to the point where we're selling, we're very transparent. we pay back what we're owed. if we have any excess go back to the client. >> you can still get that jacket. thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. hey, good evening. thanks for joining us. one of the tallest residential buildings in the earth is a fire scene. flames pouring out of the building called the torch tower. 79 stories, more than 1100 feet tall, broke out at 2 a.m. local time. media said thousands were forced to evacuate. we have no reports one way or another about injuries or
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potential fatalityiesfatalities. lea polo with more. >> reporter: it started a small apartment fire on the 51st floor approximately and then what happened was on that one side of the building it started massively growing. it's been an extremely windy day in dubai today. we had a sandstorm. so basically, debris started flying and because of the wind brought to the other side of the building so the complete other side started rupturing as well. it just turned into a massive fire in a massive building. >> the flames went around to the complete other side. >> reporter: yeah debris was flying everywhere. in fact, buildings around including my own, were also evacuated because there's fear that the wind is bringing the firy debris out of the buildings as well. >> some of the video we look at you can see debris falling off the tower. i i understand in many cases that's molten glass.
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>> reporter: yes. when everyone was evacuated, it was quite scary because you didn't know if it was sand or glass. there was a lot of running and panic. it's chaotic. >> was anyone injured, needing medical attention. >> reporter: no, which is great. apparently some people had some smoke injuries but yeah. besides that nothing that i've seen or heard about. >> and you said this started around 2:00 a.m. or so or at least those are the reports and i believe you said that there are people actually coming home from being out late and suddenly discovering that their building was on fire. >> reporter: oh it was really sad. i was actually walking away and people were coming towards home. and then people around would have to tell them why thousands of people were out on the streets, because they didn't have a home to go to. it was pretty chaotic down in
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that whole area. >> obviously roped off the whole area. what sort of a response did you see from there? was there massive fire crews and stuff? >> yeah. the fire crews seem to take a little bit longer to get there, but the dubai police is really good really safe and really around the city. so the police were there right away making sure that people didn't escape the building get away sectioning off the area so no cars would come. honestly the debris made the whole area dangerous. it wasn't just within the building but it was the whole entire community. >> could you see firefighters actually battling the blaze or were they not actually kind of entering the building itself? >> reporter: to be honest i didn't see anything. but that's no indication. i'm sure they were doing their job. i just didn't see. >> i understand there had been a number of false alarms in this building. i know you don't live in this
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building but from all the reports, there have been a number of false alarms in this building for several weeks. >> yes. >> and that a lot of buildings, and this surprised me a lot of buildings in dubai, the fire codes there really aren't up to the standards of many other places in many buildings in dubai, right, about 70% of the buildings in high-rise buildings in dubai are clad with a very flammable called a thermo plastic core. >> oh. i can't speak for that. but that's unfortunate if it's true. >> listen. i really appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. actually, leah how far away are you or is your building from this building? >> oh literally just across the street. so like a few feet. like a regular one-lane street. >> and do you have any idea how many other buildings in the area were evacuated?
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>> at least four. that i know of. it's a very heavily populated area. >> at its height how many stories would you estimate the fire was encompassing? because from some of the video you shot it looks like multiple multiple stories. >> oh absolutely. i counted 20 at least on the one side and on the other side probably about 12 or 13. the one nice i shouldn't say nice but the good thing, it wasn't a sudden thrush of fire. just before 2:00 actually and it was around 3:00 that the mass chaos kind of unfolded. >> and did the fire actually spread to lower floors as well with all of that flaming molten glass pouring off the building? >> oh yeah. it started on a very high floor and then it went down quite a few floors. and then the debris that brought it to the other side was on a lower area.
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>> just incredible. leah thank you so much for talking to us. >> you bet. >> you can stick around. we get reports from the fire is now contained, it's out. i want to bring in someone who knows the challenge of flames in tall structures. fire fighting expert robert roe. a fire of this sky this far above the ground and leah said there are high winds there, there was a sandstorm today. so winds blowing, molten glass falling. is it actually possible that i mean how do you go about battling something like this? >> well first of all, you have to be careful about entering the building with the glass. you have to take time to figure out your plan but not too much time. and accessing the floors. a lot of times, you're not really able to use the elevators because of the most elevators come down to the first floor. so it's the staircase and as you can see, these buildings are pretty tall. it's going to take a little while to take for firefighters to get to the level of the area where they stage their equipment
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and begin fighting the fire. my understanding of the building is most probably sprinklered but it's hard to tell. i'm not really sure exactly what the configuration on this building is but that would obviously be a factor. >> right. most of the reports i read that most of the high-rises in dubai have internal sprinklers as well as hoses. but that the core as many as 70% of the high-rises use a thermo plastic core. how is that possible in this danger as advanced as dubai, their fire codes wouldn't be up to the same standards as other countries? >> well you know, different countries, as you said anderson the different countries have different codes. there's different processes that building and the fire industry go through to develop these codes. i know here in the united states if we were to have a building of that size it would be held to a very strict standard and the fire would be
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out in the incipient stages. >> so when firefighters actually entered the building to fight it do they use the hoses that are already on the various floors assuming there are hoses there, or do they have to cart hoses up as they go? >> well here in the u.s. they take hoses with them when they go into the building which, you know you have to be in top physical shape to get the equipment up to those floors but you know there are hoses within the buildings, but a lot of times, you can't really depend on that equipment because of maintenance issues or the lack of. so you have to depend on the equipment that you're familiar with and you train with. >> i mean that molten glass coming off, it just sounds like that's such an easy way for the fire to spread to other parts of the building or even neighboring buildings. >> that's correct and i believe there may be some code deficiencies with regards to the exterior surfaces of the building and fire protection
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measures that should have been in place or maybe are in the process of being in place, or being put in place, to prevent fires spread from floor to floor on the exterior of the building. >> that's right. they're trying to revamp their codes, i've been reading. it's unclear to me though how extensive those changes are and obviously, any building that's already been damaged has to revamp their codes. my understanding is that you know as you said the buildings have sprinklers inside have hoses inside. but once a fire is on the outside, it's very hard in dubai to actually contain it. it's very hard to actually fight it. >> that's my understanding after reading up on this a little bit. my understanding is that there are some plans in place to retro fit the building with some exterior fire protective coverings to prevent fire from spreading floor to floor. that could be the reason we're not seeing this fire stopping on the exterior the way we're seeing it. i'm understanding that the fire is actually contained at this
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point or at least on its way to being contained. but i'm certain they're going to be looking at the retrofit provisions to have the fire protective in place to prevent this from happening again. >> one of the problems apparently in this building that according to residents and reports that i read there have been a number of false alarms fire alarms kind of regularly going to the point where people in the building kind of just ignore them. one person i read was quoted as saying he thought it was just a regular, another false alarm and there had been several in the last several weeks until he actually smelled smoke and that's when he decided to evacuate. >> and false alarms do occur. it doesn't really matter where you live. there's false alarms for various reasons. but most important thing in buildings of this size especially is the inspection testing and maintenance of number one, the fire sprinkler system, which is your first line of defense in a fire but as well as your early warning and your detection system which is the fire alarm system needs to
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be tested, inspected and checked and maintained annually. my understanding is they do inspect it in dubai but i'm not privy to any information that may have come out of those inspections. >> on a practical basis for people in the united states or watching anywhere around the world, if you're in a high-rise and there's a fire on a lower floor that you're in what is the best course of action? i mean do you try to shelter in place, do you try to make it down? do you try to go up to the roof? what do you do? >> well it's going to be based on where the fire is located in the building and where you're located in the building. in a lot of cases, the fortunate thing in the united states in this day and age, fire protection systems are in place as they were not back in the day. and that's why there were so many fatalities back in the day on high-rise buildings. but when you have a fire sprinkler system in the building sheltering in place is, you know one measure of
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protection you can use to survive. but in a lot of cases, in the buildings that are fully sprinklers you're able to evacuate safely and to the stairwells provided that the stairwells are maintained and operating properly and one of the things that i understood in this particular building they inherently have problems with leaving fire doors open on each floor, which can cause if a lot of people like to wedge doors open going from floor to floor without being impeded, more of a convenience issue but there are for a reason. this 79 story building wouldn't be surprised to see a few doors in the open position blocked open or wedged open. that's a real problem. >> well robert i appreciate your expertise. robert thank you so much for joining on this. i want to go to abu dhabi where
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a producer is monitoring a development of us anchor john terios. what's the latest now? >> we have reports on the ground anderson in the last 15 minutes. the good news is that the fire is out. this has been confirmed by the dubai civil defense in the last 15 minutes. just to recap for our viewers watching this from any part of the world right now, this is a building that is 79 stories high. that actually houses 676 units. our producer on the ground said there's seven long fire trucks on the scene and five fire vans and one ambulance, but civil defense has confirmed, again, the last quarter hour, there are no injuries. now, there are hundreds of people apparently that have evacuated the building and looking to see if they can get back in the building. the word that we have from on the ground is those at the 50th floor or above, this fire happened around the 50th floor trying to confirm exactly which floor it is will not be able to go back into the building.
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this is 5:00 in the morning anytime soon. we'll see what happens to those residents going forward. again, this is a very well known building on the dubai skyline. anderson you've been in to dubai and abu dhabi. the main highway into dubai before you get into downtown dubai, there's a packed residential area and our viewers can see the pictures right now. this is known simply as the marina and the torch is one of the best known buildings. notice on that skyline. this is a city that has grown rapidly over the last ten years and, of course anytime a fire like this happens, people start to question the building codes. are there safety precautions in place? has the fire department responded in time? again, the world from civil defense, no injuries on the ground. the fire has been conditioncontained
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breaking news out of las vegas tonight. details from the arrest report including an alleged account of the initial confrontation with tammy myers and her daughter in the final fatal shooting. that and more tonight from our sara sidner. >> reporter: husband and father robert myers, embraces family members near the driveway where his wife was murdered. the traveling businessman in shock over his wife's death still blaming himself for being away when it all happened. the myers family is also struggling with the backlash from some in the public and media who have called his son, brandon myers, a vigilante for being armed and going out with his mother to find the road rage suspects. >> every day you guys go on air, i've got people threatening to kill my son. because of things you guys have said. >> reporter: but now there is two different versions. on the road tammy myers picked up her son with a concealed weapons permit and road rage.
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the myers family tells us one of the suspects fired at them. but a newly released police report tells a slightly different story. one of the suspect's friends telling police say it was one of the myers who brandished the gun first at the suspects before anyone fired. ultimately the police say suspect eric nowsch did go to tammy myers home and killed her. according to her 22 times outside the home. and another twist, police were unaware that the family knew the suspect until the day of the arrest. >> we did not know that. >> reporter: robert myers did suspect that erik nowsch had to do something with it. where drug deals frequently go down. >> he hung around with the wrong people. he was at the park along. >> reporter: nowsch's instagram account showing pictures of what looks like pot. to give you an idea of how close these families live to one another, this is myers home where tammy myers was shot and
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killed. and this is where the suspect lives. less than a two to three minute walk from the home. >> sara sidner joins us now. i understand robert myers told you he went over to the suspect's house before his arrest. did he say why? >> reporter: you know, he was visibly upset. he thought that the suspect that the police eventually did arrest had something to do with the murder of his wife and he went over. he knocked on the door. he told me i probably shouldn't have done that but my children told me to come back pulmoed me back and let the police handle it. and he eventually did. nobody answered the door. the suspect's mother is inside that house with a small child and robert myers said, you know i just decided to let police handle it. we were all emotional, but he was very upset that his son has been getting of course death threats after all of this happened because people called him a vigilante.
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he said his children calmed him down to then go forward and try to help make funeral arrangements. >> sara trying to understand this because it's very confusing and the information obviously has been contradictory for days now. is it correct that this family suspected this young man was involved but didn't tell police? >> reporter: that was one of the details we do not yet know. what we do know they didn't tell police there was a kind of relationship between the mother and the suspect until the day that police arrested the suspect. so we don't know if they said look we think it's this person. we do know that they didn't say that the mother and the suspect knew each other quite well until the day that he was arrested. that is still kind of a fuzzy detail if you will anderson. whether or not they told police hey, we think we know who the guy is without telling them the suspect actually knew the family. >> all right. sara sidner appreciate it. joining us legal analyst mark
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geragos and jeffrey toobin. according to police report one of the myers brandished a gun first. >> that's a new claim, as of today. i mean this whole story is a good example of why we and people out in the world shouldn't make up our minds about what we think happened in a crime story upon hearing the first reports. i mean the issue of who was the investigator of this confrontation, how it unfolded i think the only thing clear, absolutely this is why you do an investigation first before you go to trial. >> mark, i mean if the family knew who did this i guess i don't understand why they wouldn't share that information with the police or share information that there was a prior relationship with the police and looking for an unnamed suspect and looked nothing like this guy.
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>> i think we discussed last night and i said jeff one of the reasons i wanted to see what was unfolding here was because i don't think that the police were so convinced that they wanted to tell the family what was going on. and today, we now find out why. because there's at least a claim that the victim's son was the one who was brandishing the weapon and there's been reports that he was firing the weapon and there's not -- there's apparently more to this relationship than has been revealed. i'm with jeff shoulder to shoulder on this one. i always try to counsel that you don't want to jump to conclusions but at the same time what we've seen here is a story that appeared to be one thing has radically changed and i wouldn't be surprised if there is more twists and turns that are coming on this story. >> and just to emphasize what mark is saying there is this other suspect out there who may actually look like the person in
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the sketch. what this person's role in all of this is one of the many unknowns at this point. >> the other thing that doesn't make that much sense, jeff which mark kind of alluded to last night, is that if mrs. myers was in fact fearful for her life and went out with her son searching for this guy, why would they leave their daughter at the home? >> and why didn't they call 9-1-1 and let the police handle this? which it's their job to do. you know you obviously want to feel a great deal of sympathy for the myers family. this woman died at age 44 which is a tragedy under any circumstances. but there does appear to be a theme unfolding of sort of self-help rather than relying on the police. seeking out the suspect on his own, and not -- >> why does he have a concealed weapons permit? >> one of the subtexts of this
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story, sacrilege to say, why do all of these people? if they were throwing punches instead of shooting at each other? 22 shots no less? >> or knifing each other. and what i really don't understand about it is the thing that they have not, or we don't know yet, it's speculation but this whole idea of not only just leaving the daughter there but why is this car supposedly trailing why is there a relationship nobody is talking about or didn't want to talk about initially. why is the daughterfather believing it's the suspect arrested going to the house himself instead of telling the police. they're not telling 9-1-1. they've got a concealed weapons permit. he's knocking on the door of who he thinks ultimately the suspect does. he's not telling the police. there has got to be more to the story. >> i'm with you on that. >> jeffrey toobin, mark geragos as well. up next rudy giuliani's claim
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giuliani's claim that the president of the united states does not love the united states. the former new york mayor and presidential candidate kind of tripled down on it. what's becoming fair or not in early tests for potential 2016 republican presidential candidates a leading gop named double down on his willingness to disavow mr. giuliani's remarks. >> i love america. that's the only person i can comment on and i think america is a great and exceptional country and i think the president is perfectly capable of answering that for himself. >> that's scott walker repeating the answer at manhattan's 21 club where former mayor giuliani said this about president obama. i do not believe and i know this is a horrible thing to say that the president loves america. mr. giuliani said he doesn't love you and he doesn't love me. he wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and i was
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brought up through love of this country. on fox and friends, he said this. >> i'm not questioning his patriotism. he's a patriot, i'm sure. i'm saying that in his rhetoric i rarely hear him say the things i used to hear ronald reagan say, bill clinton say, about how much he loves america. i hear him criticize much more than other american presidents and when it's not in the context of overwhelming statements about the exceptionalism of america, sounds like he's more of a critic than a supporter. >> not long after that he spoke to the new york times about the controversy and took it to another level. some people thought it was racist saying quote, i thought that was a joke since he was brought up by a white mother a white grandfather, went to white schools and most of this he learned from white people. with that on the table, white house spokesman josh earnest this afternoon said this. >> i think the only thing i feel is sorry for rudy giuliani
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today. >> other democrats as you might imagine have gone further than that. this is primarily a challenge for top republicans, a litanus test. other presidential 2016 contenders the level of the president's love for country is immaterial at this krung juncture. should have chosen differently phraseology. marco rubio said he has no doubt president obama loves this country but took issue with his policies. a strange thing to debate at all in this juncture. the question is whether the man highest elected loves his country or not. strange but as we've seen since the 2008 campaign not entirely unusual. now from chief national correspondent john king and
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david gergen. it's interesting to see commenting or not commenting. >> punting won't do it. scott walker did on cnbc i don't want to judge. if you look people to criticize the mayor, don't come to me. it is interesting. you use the word interesting. a key is who will you hire fire stand with. they were fond in the 2008 campaign saying to then senator barack obama, when will you dump jeremiah wright. remember president obama did that. if you want to be president of the united states you have to make choices and i think governor walker might rethink i don't want to judge mayor giuliani. you can debate whether to call radical islam extremisms. says he doesn't love america? too far. >> what do you think of what mayor giuliani said and how republicans have been reacting to it? >> i agree with john but remain a fan of mayor giuliani.
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what he said in this instance was wrong and gave deep offense to many. i would think starting right in the white house. to go to john's point about what he said it's part of this sort of sense that republicans have sometimes and opponents of the president have stirred up he's not one of us. >> right, he's other. >> he's other. as if to say, he's not truly an american and there is something illegitimate about him. look where he's born so forth and so on. from an american point of view we have deep disagreements in this country about what it means to be an american. to accuse someone of being un-american is an insult. and it's very personal. and it does recall the days where we had an un-american, the activities committee way back in the mccarthy.
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it was wrong to go there. i asked a republican candidate, they need to call it what it is. i disagree with rudy giuliani on a lot of things but i think he was wrong. >> when president obama said quoting, wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and i was brought up through love of this country, for giuliani to link love of america to where someone was raised or how someone was raised you can't -- >> it's dangerous. if you embrace the american story of immigrants if you embrace the continuing american story of diversity, yes, it's a tough place to say where you grew up affects whether or not you love america. a lot of people who have been american citizens for weeks love america. never mind those for years or generations. it's a question of these people to be president of the united states and leaders know and mayor giuliani i agree with david after his leadership after 9/11 and a good relationship with him over the years but he knows, leaders know
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what the voices say and any laep knows there is this fringe that has said these things about president obama from day one. where is his birth certificate in is he a muslim? should he be president? is he a legitimate president? it's a fringe and in some case a lunatic fringe. it's for the leader to lead away from the water, not toward it. what mayor giuliani said takes you toward it. that's a mistake. >> thank you david gergen and john king. just called jim jim acosta who joins us now. >> rudy giuliani is not backing down one bit. he said to me during this brief phone conversation quote, i don't regret making the statement. i believe it. i don't know if he loves america. and then went on to say during this conversation i don't feel the same enthusiasm as him for
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america. one other thing i should point out, anderson during this phone call the former mayor said his office has received some death threats, said secretary has gotten death threats over the phone. but the former mayor did not say whether he alerted police to threatening phone calls and cnn has no way of confirms that. giuliani said in the conversation that the majority of the phone calls received at his office have been supportive and even heard from louisiana governor bobby jingal to back him on his comments. >> thank you, jim acosta talking to mayor giuliani a short time ago. growing skepticism plan to take back the city of mosul will work whether ready for the fight and why it was divulged in the first place. also dudsozens evacuated in dubai. a fire in one of the tallest in the world. is impactful?"
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the city of mosul. arab official saying the concern that the offense largely led by shia and kurdish forces which he believes will further alienate and further stabilize the situation for strengthening isis. one of many growing concerns. joining us with more on how this is going to play out, where it goes from here chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto. let's talk about this counteroffensive to take back mosul. how confident are u.s. officials that iraqi forces are up to the task? >> reporter: they're going forward. to be fair they've been training them military advisors on the ground for months now but i was in iraq in december. i asked u.s. commanders there and at the time they said iraqi forces were many months away. clearly, the iraqis chomping at the bit a bit here to move forward and also these concerns from the senior arab official about sectarianism still permeating the military. not just a problem for
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themselves but do you get a stable situation afterwards and america's coalition partners are saying no you don't. >> it's a city of some 2 million people a number of isis fighters already there. obviously, they are battle hardened. where do you suddenly get the tens of thousands of iraqi troops you need in a military force, which not only had fled mosul, fled their post back in june but for years, has been trained and well equipped and, you know turned out to be incapable of actually fighting. >> reporter: a great question. a lingering question. one thing military officials have done on the ground is assessing the early units. they made an assessment and determined only half of the brigades were up to snuff. that gives you tens of thousands of forces. and that's really the vanguard here with kurdish forces cutting off supply lines. how they perform in an urban battle estimated 1,000 to 2,000
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isis fighters in mosul. you've got to trust me. they're digging in setting bobby traps. they're readings these plans and digging themselves in to respond. it's not going to be an easy plan no matter how well trained these forces are. >> that's part of the reason the officials are telegraphing about this attack in the hopes isis fighters might simply choose to leave or get civilians the get out of the way but all of that is very much an open question. do we know exactly the details about the role that the u.s. military advisors will play in this. >> reporter: we don't know yet but we know u.s. commanders are seriously considering recommending to the president the u.s. military advisors either go on a forward role as advisors but still close to the front line with the troops helping them along, command or possibly ground controllers to air strikes, they haven't recommended that to the president yet but specifically mentioned the mosul operation as a circumstance where they might
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do that. that's an open question. they may go to the president with that. >> thank you, jim sciutto. breaking news out of dubai. one of the tallest apartment buildings in the world caught on fire. there have been no fatalities. we'll continue to monitor developments for you there. in the meantime, the latest on other stories. randi kaye? >> reporter: dangerous cold gripping states with 125 million americans under a windchill warning or advisory. there have been at least 23 deaths due to the weather this week. most of them in tennessee. tonight, the fda is being accused of knowing that a commonly used medical device linked to the deadly super bug outbreak in los angeles may be flawed can't be properly cleaned, yet never ordered a fix. the hospital has contacted 179 people who had endo skopic procedures between october and january. police in the u.k. are trying to find three teenage girls from london who are thought to be making their way to syria.
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they haven't been seen since tuesday when they took a flight to istanbul. nascar indefinitely suspended kurt busch. he committed domestic violence. his client plans to appeal nascar's decision anderson. >> thank you very much. more from you, recordings released of the interrogation of two girls, 12 years old at the time after they allegedly tried to kill their classmate after slender man. what happened after the report. next.
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a judge in wisconsin expected to rule next month whether the trial of two girls who stabbed a classmate should continue in adult court. all three were 12 years old at the time and the two girls who tried to kill the classmates say they did it to please slender man, a fictional character in games and online but one believed is very real. now their interrogation tapes have been released and they are chilling to say the least. here again is randi kaye. >> reporter: at just 12 these two girls nearly took another classmate's life. last may, they lured her to a
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wooded area where police say they stabbed her 19 times. video of their interrogation being made public for the first time. >> who stabbed who first? >> i think stabbed her first and then i continued. and anissa said make sure you have an escape. she told me she got her in the lung right here six types and then in the leg a few times. >> reporter: the victim also 12 was badly wounded. one knife strike coming so close to her heart, the criminal complaint said she was one millimeter away from certain death. still, she survived. not exactly how her attackers, anissa ware were hoping it would end. >> we told you to get help. but we really weren't. we were going to run and let her pass away.
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so we ran. >> reporter: they told detectives how they each took part in the stabbing. this is their list. notice the kitchen knife? >> so how did you get the knife from anissa? >> she sort of just shoved it in my hand. i don't know it sort of just happened. it didn't feel like anything. it was like air. >> reporter: incredibly the victim managed to crawl out of the woods. bike rider found her and got her to the hospital. the young suspects were arrested soon after. both charged as adults with attempted first degree intentional homicide. when asked why they did it they had the same answer. slender man. and this is where a violent and murderous act becomes simply bizarre. it's a fictional internet monster, a ghoul in some of the
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internet's darkest corners. he's faceless often portrayed in a dark suit with octopus like tent calacles tentacles. he punishes those who look to expose him. they encountered on creepy pasta wiki. thought he was real and if they didn't kill their classmate, slender man would hurt them or their families. >> when you guys were walking, you thought you saw slender? >> uh-huh after morgan stabbed her. and he had tentacles that were very sharp. >> did you see him in your dreams? >> oh i see him in my dreams. >> reporter: evidence presented in court shows what was found in morgan geyser's bedroom, dozens of disturbing drawings and numerous disfigured barbie dolls, many with the slender man symbol on them. all proof the defense team said
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the girls truly believed slender man is real. >> truth be told i wanted to be locked up so i couldn't hurt her. but that time has passed and now i'm in here because we were careless. i knew this would happen and we would get in trouble. >> randi kaye joining me. this is disturbing on so many different levels. so are they okay to stand trial? >> reporter: apparently so. in december anderson they found they were both competent to stand trial. will they stand trial in adult court where they are now or moved to a juvenile court? their defense lawyer is asked to move to a juvenile court because it's a big difference. they get 25 years. in adult court, it's 60 years. so it's a difference of 35 years for their lives. >> it's just -- >> so disturbing. age 12 to be talking like that. >> randi, thank you for the report. >> latest on the apartment
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fire in dubai. 79 story tower. more than 1100 feet tall in dubai's marina district. flames shooting out of the high floors, said to come out of the 50th floor. molten glass falling to the street below. we got word from authorities that the fire is out. no fatalities and people will shortly be able to return home. on the phone is rhea. is everyone you know okay? >> yes, everyone i know and i'm okay. i heard the fire alarps going off pretty early at 2:00 a.m. and was among the first few people to have left the building. we're fine. it's been a scary night. >> did everyone evacuate immediately? i understand there are problems of fire alarms going off in this building before. >> to be honest i sort of
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hesitated for a while as well when i was in bed and sort of like oh no. it's another fire drill. and i waited it out for a few minutes and thought to myself well it hasn't stopped and so i looked out the window. and i saw there were already police cars with lights on and a few, just a small handful of people on the sidewalk looking up at the building. there's got to be something here. >> i live on the 8th floor. which is lucky because it's a high tower. >> you didn't see flames or anything? >> it could have been any night. it was only when i went to the stairwell and people coming down okay we have to be evacuated. >> and then did you, were you out on the street watching this building burn? >> we were for quite a while. the authorities obviously kept us at a safe distance and because the debris fell and
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there was massive piece at the time and fire that was falling. and so we were kept pretty far back. but we were watching it and have friends that live in a building right across from it. so i was up in their apartment for a little while on the 45th floor, almost level with the actual fire. and then we got evacuated from that building as well. >> have you had any concerns about, there have been reports i'm reading about fire codes in dubai over the last several hours and it seems like a lot of the buildings in dubai, i've read as high as 70%, are the outer core of them there's flammable material used in the construction. have you been concerned about a fire in a high-rise building at all before? >> i hadn't. and i hadn't read all that much about it either. tonight, i learned a whole lot more and a lot of people sort of talked about it. but there was a fire in a
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building a few years ago. but honestly i hadn't thought about it that much. >> how often had the fire alarm gone off in the past? that was the problem when i went off tonight, just another false alarm. >> i would say since i was there, about a year and a half maybe about ten times? >> oh really? that often? >> yeah. i think it was mostly a special period where there was something. >> and have you been able to, or are you able to go back in the building? as you said, you're only on the eighth floor. >> not yet as far as i know and now staying with friends for tonight. >> i know you said you didn't see the fire. so you didn't see any of the molten glass pouring by your window or anything like that. that had ptn't happened yet. >> no absolutely not. it was the opposite side of the building from the way my
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apartment faces. >> right. >> so no i hadn't seen anything until i left the building and was out on the street to see it from there. >> rhea saran, so glad you're okay and everybody else is okay. thank you for talking with us. appreciate it. that does it for us. thanks for watching. the cnn quiz show starts now. welcome to the cnn quiz show, president's edition. i'm anderson cooper. thank you for joining us. we'll test our anchors' knowledge all things presidential. you at home can play along. three
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