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accused of gunning down a las vegas mother in a so-called road rage shooting. plus a prominent republican distancing himself from america's mayor. will rudy giuliani be ost sized from the party saying president obama does not love america? we'll ask our panel of political insiders. >> hello, thank you for joining me. a newly released video appears to show american-made weapons falling into the hands of isis fighters. cnn has not verified when the video was shot but apparently shows militants attacking an iraqi military post in anwar province showing them seizing more than 30 weapons including heavy machine guns. new this week u.s. and iraqi army are planning a big gochbs offensive to take iraqi's second

biggest city away from isis. they dropped weapons and abandon posts as isis militants arrived in moszul. we are live what does the white house say about the campaign? >> u.s. officials believe they may be ahead of where they thought they would be in this point in the broader military campaign against isis, and they are cautiously on the mistake that forces will be ready for a spring offensive. they are quietly hoping for this game plan to take effect over the last several months. now, let me stress here though that this april or may launch date is still tentive thattive and dependent on where the iraqi forces are ready. if they are not completely ready, assessment on the ground is that american troops could need to be forward deployed on the front lines in the role of ground controllers, meaning they

would be there to call in air strikes. that is something that the defense secretary ash carter discussed this morning in afghanistan. listen here. >> of course i'm open. i'm always open to advice from our military commanders about what the best way to achieve success is and that is a question that'll come down the road but i think what's important is that the campaign to retake mosul succeed and we're committed to the success and not to a particular timetable. >> >> reporter: that last point applies to the overall effort to retake mosul broadly and are not married to the april or may timetable, fred. >> at a very snowy white house. thank you very much.

60 nations showed up for a three day summit to discuss ways to combat extremist groups. a former state department official who advised six secretaries of state is skeptical whether a u.s. led forum is beneficial. >> i think to teach the arabs how to run their political systems or reform them i think, frankly, it's a lost cause. if we're going to be beat is we're going to beat it through a military and political strategy that demonstrates in effect that what i.s. is trying to do create a state and expand it is simply not possible. >> my next guest was at that summit bill former director at the national consortium for the study of terrorism at the university of maryland. you know david aaron miller doubtful saying american-made forum cannot be effective dealing with arab nations, but you, on the other hand say it

was a very successful forum. why? what made it successful? >> oh because i was at the event that focused on domestic policy and in that regard i think it was a really important event to mark the efforts that have gone on domestically and i think mr. miller is correct that the international aspect of the conference is a much greater challenge, but, he also knows that events are not where you formulate strategy. that's a process, not an event. that continues monday and tuesday at the global national terrorism forum, also in d.c. that process is what we need to be doing. >> in your view help us understand the process, and why this is a step in the right direction perhaps, for the white house to say if we're going to help take the lead militarily in helping to stamp out isis, then

why not, from an ideological standpoint try to take the lead and help i guess, build a coalition on -- on how to zaj damage destroy isis in this manner. >> well so i think the challenge here is that the military events on the ground are going to happen in a certain timeline and a lot of the broader issues things like issues like governance issues like ideology and how to you marginalize extremist interpretations of sunni islam by the mainstream communities in sunni muslim majority countries? this happens on a slower timeline so we can lead in the short term. we can't lead in the long term. you hear the president talking about encouraging things like governance. of course that's not going to happen you know turn on a dime but you have to nudge in the right direction, and then also deal with the realities, geopolitical realities on the ground with the tools that you

have and in this case the tools we have are largely military tools in the u.s. arsenal. >> and, you know, i mentioned isis because it seems to be the primary target right now, but, you know the president omitted the word "islam" in terms of references to terror groups. he talked about extremist group, and even though isis has the name islamic in it how was that received among those invited to the forum, the omission of the word islam and rather than referencing in a generic term how -- how was that interpreted? what was the real intent that people interpreted? >> well you know you have to understand that terrorism is a political form of violence. it's politics by other means. therefore, counterterrorism is inherently political behavior. i don't mean democrat-republican politics, but i mean, it's about legitimacy and it's about trying to in this case get

governments to work together to marginalize a nonstate actor. if you use the term "islamic extremism" and it's taken out of context or not given the opportunity to explain what specifically you mean referring to al qaeda or isil you alienate the very nations and communities that you want working with you to marginalize extremist groups and so the administration uses more abstract terms in order to not alienate the allies that it needs for this particular fight. it's a problem. our language is a problem, vocabulary is a problem dealing with highly politicized issues and the administration is trying to use expedient language. >> do you agree with that approach? >> sometimes, yeah there's a pushback certainly when american political leaders talk about muslim extremism or islamic extremism, and the concern, of

course are we painting with too broad a brush using those terms. there is pushback in using the terms. for political purposes it's okay to use vocabulary to get the most effective outcome. analysts strategists, professionals in the weeds on the issues need to be specific using specific terms so we know what we're talking about when we talk about them. >> bill thank you so much appreciate your time. >> thank you. all right. coming up, former new york mayor rudy giuliani not backing down on the comments creating a mess for republicans. cnn's will ripley will join us live from new york with the latest. >> reporter: making front page news again, and a lot of people are questioning why he's bringing up claims that go back years that the president was influenced by communism.

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former mayor of new york stands by his comments that president obama does not love america. he made the remarks in a private political event this week aiming at the president's refusal to label the recent terrorist problem as an islamic extremism issue. he's not offering up any apologies, giuliani that is. let's bring in will ripley of the possible fallout here and why he's standing his ground will? >> reporter: long time giuliani watchers in new york say it's no surprise if you look how he conducted himself over the years, offering no apologies, going on air repeatedly and adding to his remarks that not only does he claim that president obama does not love his country, but brought up, in this front page story, claims dating back to when obama ran for president in 2007 some far right winger's belief that the president was influenced by

members of the communism party as a young child growing up in indonesia, and so while giuliani continues to talk about this, he addressed the fire storm in a phone call with jim acosta saying quote, my secretary received death threats. i don't regret making the statement. i believe it. i don't know if he loves america. i don't feel the same enthusiasm from him for america. what we are seeing is a growing number of republicans distancing themselves now from giuliani's comments not necessarily condemning them though. >> i think it's a mistake to question people's motives. there's one thing to disagree on policy policy and a reason why john and i get along. he's the democratic congressman from louisville. we have a good friendship. i don't question his motives. we don't always agree, acknowledge our agreements and i try not to question the

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despite criticism, the former new york mayor giuliani refusing to apologize for the comments that prauchlesident obama does not love america. what do the remarks mean for his republican colleagues? i'm joined by the political panel, political columnist for the washington post on the phone, and ron is the director of the national jourmg and cnn political analyst and joined by cnn commentator ben ferguson, and steven cullenson on the phone. you write in the washington post dana this is not just about, quote, your word, stupid remarks. listen to what was wisconsin governor walker's said first

remaining silent on the same stage as giuliani when it went down. in is what he said when in washington yesterday on cnbc. >> the bottom line is i can only speak for myself, and myself and i think america's a great exceptional country, and people across the spectrum, republican and democrat alike believe that. >> okay. we know he was on cnbc, but our cnn robert caught up with him saying i, too, love america. we can't see you, but would love to hear you. why in your view does that backfire particularly for scott walker? >> caller: well it does not seem to be playing very well for him, and, you know look i think it's fair to say who really cares what rudy giuliani says. he's not running for anything. he's a private citizen now who is trying to make waves at punditings. nobody should be fired up about that and it's also not fair to

ask every republican in the land what they think of giuliani's remarks, but this was uttered in a dinner essentially for scott walker sitting right there near giuliani when he said it and so it's perfectly fair and logical to be asking him about it and it's not that he was silent at the time but, you know given the opportunity to put some distance between him and giuliani he very clearly chose not to. i think he's justifiably getting a lot of backlash. >> steve, you too, where about this in an op-ed, saying giuliani is entering the same conservative jungle, so to speak as sarah palin and donald trump. what do you mean by that? >> giuliani is not running for office anymore, but he appears to want to be part of the political game. one way to do that i think, is make these remarks, and the interesting thing about it is

it's not a classic political gaffe that he's been heard at a dinner and comes out to apologize. he's out there defending the remark to the hilt. it looks like you know he really wants to be back in the political game and that one way to do that is to make these remarks and there's a constituency in the certain sort of sector of the republican party among the grassroots and base of the party for these remarks, so you know if you listen to talk radio, you hear this kind of thing, you know all of the time what's unusual about this is that, you know he's out there on mainstream media defending himself. >> and so you know this is not just a giuliani problem. even though dana said not every republican needs to be asked about or must comment on what giuliani said, but, you know, what is the conversation likely today in the inner republican party circles about whether he would be invited to anything else whether there's some worry

about the reprecautionercussions of what was said. this does you know have some longevity just within republican circles. >> it depends on who's reporting on it. i mean i don't think this is a big issue to any of the candidates because the candidates -- >> why not? what do you mean? >> they didn't say it, and they did not endorse it and they did not advocate for it. giuliani is not running for office. giuliani is a guy who's been very open and upset with president obama on his foreign policy stance on isis. he's a guy that went through 9/11 saw it up close, personal feels the foreign policy of the president is one putting american lives at risk or putting other people at risk that he saw. i think he's entitled to his opinion, but no one else running for president on the republican side has come anywhere close to saying anything like this. i don't think this is really that big of a deal at all. giuliani wants to stand by it that's his choice. if i'm a dant right now, i'm not spending much time worried about giuliani and this one comment

that he made because i'm not going to endorse it or advocate for it. i'm my own man, my own candidate, and i look at much bigger issues than this. >> ron, is it that simple? no ripple effect? >> you spend 12 seconds on this if you're a candidate. what is my official response? that's it. >> all right. ron? >> yeah the point -- no i think the point is that -- i agree, you don't have -- everybody does not have to respond to something said but what the former mayor said is reflective of a current feeling in a portion of the republican base that the candidates probably will have to respond to before it is over. i think back to -- >> very small. >> where john mccain put down a speaker at an event who questioned obama's patriotism. this is -- there is a strain in the republican base that feels this way, feels that obama, you know questions his loyalty, but fundamentally, sees him as a symbol of a changing america

that portions of the republican base are uncomfortable with. whether or not you agree with giuliani and whether or not you respond to giuliani this kind of sentiment, i think, is something people have to respond to sooner or later, and scott walker's response in contrast to rand paul did not show a readiness to do that. >> yeah. you know you heard from former senior adviser david axelrod who made that comment saying there's been a common thread listening a number of incidents from the, you know you lie, you know moment you know on to this and so you know ben, it seems as though the republican party or some leadership has to make some kind of comments so there is not this association because if you look at the string of events that kind of you know assessment is being made that there is an underlying problem. there's a simmering problem. >> but i think -- >>ingly perhaps giuliani's comments brings it to the surface. >> if you care about this comment, you're not going to

vote for republican candidatesny candidatesniway. within the republican field, this is a nonissue. every party has their extreme comments on the left or on the right. the same way that you had democrats saying that the republicans were in favor of torturing people and in favor of givering guns to kids to commit school shootings, extreme comments. you can't come out and respond to every extreme comment someone makes. giuliani's a guy not going away. if i'm a candidate, stands on stage with him on a stage six months from now whereas i run from donald trump or palin because they are different leads, giuliani is accomplished. no one is perfect on what they say in front of a camera. maybe he wishes he said it differently, but this is such a small sector of the republican party on the extreme that agree with this statement. >> dana how much a distraction is this for the party leading into 2016? >> caller: well that remains to be seen but it's not, you know

it's not as if candidates themselves are not seeking the way, and you have bobby going out of the way to release a statement saying i'm not going to go condemn giuliani if what he said is correct. they actually are embracing it to some extent opposed to just being indifferent towards it. so you know larger question is not the one remark that giuliani made but is -- there's been for the last seven years or so a whole undercurrent in the republican party of questioning this president's patriotism you know his americanness and seeking to make him something other than the rest of us and this is part and parcel to that. will this continue in the primaries? you can be sure it's going to from some segments of the republican candidates. >> and so ben, given that do you think there will be some guidance within the party to say

you got to stop using language like this because, you know, it's not looking good? >> look i don't think they will come up with any of that because most of the candidates are not going to go close to these comments because, one, they are not running against president obama. they are running against hillary clinton. this will be a non-issue when it comes closer to the election. and giuliani is not -- >> well no but i think the question is -- >> i don't think this -- >> there's been reference to that kind of language whether it's the birther, he's not one of us -- >> you're talking about donald trump. >> we're talking about people who are republicans, right, who have used this kind of language. >> let's look at the, i don't want the president to succeed in his policies. i said that a thousand times. why? i disagree with the policyiespolicies. >> foreign policies were not there. >> that does not mean i'm being un-american. you get the point?

that doesn't mean i don't think he's un-american or doesn't love america. his world view is different than the gop. they run on that yes, especially foreign policy right now. >> steven? >> and that's -- >> yeah i think that's the problem continues is the republican party tried really hard to make sure the candidates do not come out with inflammatory rhetoric to give the media something to talk about, which is not the policies of the republican party. in the postpartum the last american election appeal to the mainstream. when they talk about rudy giuliani making remarks about the president, they are not talking about questions about the president's policies to tackle isis. they are not talking about the middle class people that do not have jobs after the recession, and so that's where it's a distraction, and that's where these remarks are damaging to the republican party. >> ron? >> well look republicans, as everybody said republicans want to talk about president obama's

results, not his motivations. that's a better ground for them to stand on and debate. the problem, i think as i said this is emblematic as a broader sense in the party that limits -- puts constraints and pressures on the republican candidates. there's a broad sense in the party that a level of opposition to obama that makes it very difficult to kind of rationally assess what he has and has not accomplished and i think it constrains candidates on things like immigration, education. they are being pushed towards a monolithic opposition to everything he's done which may or may not be a good strategy for the general election throughout the primary. >> all right. ron, ben, steven and dana thank you to all of you. appreciate it. >> thank you. still ahead after a deadly shooting, police say a teenager bragged about it to his friends, but there are many more layers to this story. we will tell you next.

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surprising details emerge as police investigate the so-called road rage shooting. investigators say the alleged shooter bragged about the shooting to friends. but as cnn reports, and perhaps the most surprising twist of all? the suspect and the victim lived just a block away and knew each other. >> we know this boy. i couldn't tell you this before. >> a surprising twist in a week long road rage murder mystery. the prime suspect apparently knew the victim. >> she fed him. she gave him money. >> las vegas police say the 44 -year-old was shot and killed outside her home by a teenager who lived just one block away. >> there's the animal a block away! are you happy! >> reporter: bursting with pain

and grief, robert was there as police made the arrest thursday afternoon adding to his heart break, his wife knew her alleged shooter and had tried to help the 19-year-old accused of taking her life. >> my wife spent countless hours at the park consuling this boy, and he's probably watching this right now, and i know he's got to feel bad because she was really good to him. >> reporter: from a smiling high schooler to a young man flaunting drugs and money on social media eric is now behind bars charged with murder and attempted murder. according to the arrest report detectives say he confided in two friends that he was involved in the shooting and even showed them the weapon of .45 caliber handgun, that happened after an apparent road rage incident a week earlier when tammy was headed back from a driving lesson with her daughter. she picked up her 22-year-old son who was around and police believe they left seeking to confront a wreckless drivers,

but her husband argues his wife was afraid and fled the house trying to hide the car from her known assailant. instead, she came upon the driver and shots were fired. >> it's scary, you know, okay, that thing can happen to anyone. >> hits close to home. >> exactly. i mean, it was, like you know three houses down just right here you know? >> the suspect involved in the killing of mrs. meyers is in custody and off the streets of las vegas. >> police are looking for one other person who may have been involved. as the investigation continues, the family mourns and neighbors are left shaken. >> i never thought in my life that can happen here. >> reporter: wondering why and how such a senseless crime could occur so close to home. >> in the arrest report he told his friends he was a passenger

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now a story about police video and trying to cover up a violent arrest. a missouri man was kicked and tazed in a traffic stop. only part of it was caught on dash cam because midway through the arrest an officer turned off the camera. will ripley has more. >> i can't move! >> reporter: this shows police kicking and tazing a man in a traffic stop until the cop says it's time to stop recording. >> everybody hold up. if you are worried about cameras, just wait. >> the video ends drug and weapons charges against the suspect later dropped. the decorated st. louis metropolitan police officers who stopped the video violated department policy but is still on the force. >> there's going to be subject to scrutiny. that's part of the job. >> reporter: distrust of the police is leading citizens to take their own videos of police activity. he says it's perfectly legal as long as you don't interfere. that does not stop?

police officer in oregon from demanding to check her phone recording an apparent arrest. >> yes. it's not a choice. >> it's not a choice? >> it's not a choice. >> it's absolutely a choice. the police do not have the right randomly to take people's cell phones away. >> reporter: it's about to happen anyway. >> i don't want to show you, but -- >> thank you. >> this federal lawsuit claims her rights were violated and she suffered physical and psychological injuries when police seized her phone, twisting her arm, and detained her two years ago. the city turned down cnn's interview request but sent a statement saying the chief reminded officers videotape officers is part of police work today. these days anyone can take video and stream it online. a growing number of people are turning phones on police when things get ugly. >> get your phone out. >> reporter: this video taken by a 14-year-old in the backseat is evidence in an indiana family's excessive force lawsuit.

a seat belt violation last fall led to this. all unfolding with children in the backseat. >> why? >> reporter: this video led to a 1.5 million settlement for her beaten by the side of a highway last summer by a california highway patrol officer. he resigned. >> thank you for the footage, for the video. >> she survived. eric garner did not. video shows the unarmed man being placed in a choke hold by a new york city police officers a grand jury decided not to indict the officer for garner's death. videos like this are proving to be powerful tools for citizens capturing alleged bad behavior by the police. will ripley cnn new york. when we come back, we ask legal experts to weigh in on such police recordings. l noise

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all right, from the rodney king arrest years ago in los angeles to last year's death of eric garner in new york police find themselves being recorded by citizens. especially when it appears the officers may be using excessive force. it's your right to record but officers have been snatching people's phones in the process. you saw the piece before the break. let's bring in our legal panel, criminal defense attorney darren and hln legal analyst joey jackson. good to see both of you. >> good to see you, fred. >> joey to you first. so if it's not unlawful for anyone to record in public places why is it so many police officers feel they have the right to take your phone and camera? >> it's a very good question and one best directed towards the respective commissioners who govern the police. now, certainly, you have a first amendment right in order to make

recordings and be out there and understand that look i think it could be a dual benefit. it protects police from any false claims and it certainly protects citizens from any claims that are actually factual. i think that there needs to be a better understanding between the dynamics. we're in an age of technology. based on technology, people have smart phones and they record. imagine a world in which there was no recordings or because look at the piece you gave us before the break. amazing. >> yeah. >> what cell phones can capturementcapture ment . finally, michael brown, imagine all the answers that would have been you know satisfied in the event there was a recording to otherwise indicate exactly kpapd lyly lyly what happened on that fateful day. >> darren put yourself in that situation, will's piece, a woman is recording what she sees, and a police officer says i need your phone. she says no -- >> yeah give me the phone. >> he takes it anyway yeah.

in so many circumstances, a citizen feels like i have to give up my phone even if it turns out first amendment right like you said i have to give up the phone because next thing you know the police officers says i'm defieing his or her order. i'm resisting, you know their commands. what do you do in a situation like that? >> right. well the point's excellent. of course, law enforcement officer know this, and they routinely leverage that power. i think it's important for viewers to the extent they want to capture this video. they need to be aware of the laws in their own jurisdiction. there are some states that outlaw this kind of filming, but they are antiquated laws that are based on old notions of wiretapping and eavesdropping and promulgated before the smart phone. they are routinely challenged. >> routinely prevail. >> and upheld yes, of course. >> yeah. >> i think it's important,

though that law enforcement agencies get with the times and stop resisting any kind of efforts of citizens to be able to capture this video. it makes me sit back own wonder well what the hell are you covering up? it's the coverup worst than the crime. to the extent that law enforcement needs to recapture public trust, and they do then there needs to be transparency meaning willingness to be recorded as long as it's not interfereing with official duties. >> it's certainly bad you know darren and joey talking about, you know a private citizen recording something, the phone is seized. it's worse with a dash cam video and it's there for that very purpose of recording to make sure that everything was done according to you know, within rules and law, but then a police officer asked that that recording device be turned off? i mean joey if that's a problem that everyone has to deal with too, why should anyone in any jurisdiction believe by

having a body camera an officer having a body camera they will not control the message there too? >> it's a very good point, and, you know interestingly enough studies have found that what goes oun as a result of having these body cams, complaints go down because police are on the best behavior. brutality instances go down because police are on the best behavior, and safety is up because citizens are on their best behavior when they are on notice, whatever you say it's recorded right here m i think there's really a dual benefit. police recording citizens and citizens having a right to record police. at the end of the day, though it's about having a better understanding, community police relations, communities need police police certainly need communities, and when we bridge the gap, we'll go a long way to future benefits. >> daren? >> well there's one -- >> like you're at the edge of your seat. >> yeah thanks fred and human beings are notoriously lousy witnesses, and when you have the objectivity of a camera that

eliminates this notion. even as a criminal defense lawyer, if my client's activities are captured on tape that allows me to have a frank conversation with the client like really going to trial? look what the prosecution has. that really is a matter of what's good for the goose is good for the gander all the way around. bay, by the way, this is the trend. no putting the paste back in the tube. cameras are here. we need policies to deal with it and frankly, everybody, as joey pointed out, is better off because of them. >> all right. thank you, both gentlemen. appreciate it. >> technology the wave of the future. see you soon. >> and the future is here and it is now. >> it is happening. >> right now. thank you so much guys. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> we'll be right back. my tempur-pedic made me fall in love with mornings again. i love how it conforms to my body. with tempur-pedic the whole bed is comfortable. it's the best thing we ever did for ourselves. it's helping to keep us young. (vo) visit your local retailer and feel the tempur-pedic difference for yourself.

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giving sight to the blind is another way smart phones are helping people live fuller lives. here's cnn's samuel burke. >> please identify some of the items in this vending machine. >> i see chips. >> reporter: she's blind. she's using be my eyes a free iphone app connecting her to sighted volunteers via a video call. >> first time i used it was in the office. i went to the vending machine with no braille symbols, and with be my eyes i identified there's a lot of junk food in there, but knowing i now could go up there and purchase something, it's very freeing. >> when you're not using the app, when you have to ask somebody out in the street is that something that's tiresome for the visually impaired? >> it can be.

it makes me feel like i leave an impression of dependence si, and i feel like technology of this kind really furthers us along in giving the proper impression which is we can do anything really with the right tools and training. >> reporter: this can empower the blind users as well as volunteers like melissa gould. >> the first time you got a blind person calling, what was that moment like? >> it was sort of surreal. i just answered the call and it was a woman holding her phone at her problem, which was on the floor. she had dropped her necklace and i just kept saying okay go a little right, and then i could see her hand and she got it. it was a beautiful moment. i felt happy i helped someone. what i really feel about the app is that it's a good deed waiting to happen. >> open be my eyes. >> reporter: blind users say the only change the app really needs is more sighted volunteers. >> i've been known to wait up to about five minute and by that

time i'm, like okay. >> tell me what train station this is.perfect ment. thank you very much. >> extraordinary. thank you so much for being with me this afternoon. much more of "the news room" straight ahead. here on the cnn news room i'm suzanne and we are getting more word that isis fighters are ending up with american-made weapons in iraq. cnn has not con officialed when this video was shot, but it comes as the u.s. and iraq plan an offensive to take back the stronghold of