$6 billion, which incidentally is the exact amount mars one estimates will be the cost of sending just 9 first four people to mars. thanks for being a part of our program this week, i will see the next week. \s . happening right now in the cnn "newsroom." >> if anyone is planning to go to the mall of america today, they have to be particularly careful. >> homeland security secretary jeh johnson responding to attacks on shopping malls. plus minnesota's battle as a recruiting ground for jihadis. and we are still losing them. is it terrorists in midwest here in the united states? it is. >> there is a concern that the

minorities -- that become involved in terrorism are also the most dangerous terrorists. and all of that snow and ice is making for dangerous conditions from the rockies to the east coast. more bitter cold "newsroom" starts right now. hilo everyone thanks so much for joining me. homeland security chief jeh johnson is reacting to new video, which re says reflects a new age of terrorist attacks. it aired on "state of the union" this morning, and dismiss video released by al shabab running on the right side of the screen as he talks. >> i'm very concerned about the serious potential threat of independent actors here in the united states. we've seen this now in europe

we've seen it in canada. >> but specifically against the mall of america? >> anytime a terrorist organization calls for an attack on a specific place, we've got to take that seriously, and so through our intelligence bulletins, through working with state and local law enforcement, through working with the fbi, we take this kind of thing seriously. >> one more thing on this this is a statement from the mall of america today -- mall of america is aware of the threatening video that was released which included a mention and images of the mall. we take any potential threat seriously and respond appropriately. we have implemented extra security precautions, some may be noticeable to guests and others won't." what are you telling americans who might be planning a trip to the mall this sunday? >> what we're telling the public in general is you've got to be vigilant. we just revamped our, if you see something, say something campaign at the super bowl last month. so public engagement public

awareness is critical. americans should still feel that they are free to associate, they are free to go to public gatherings but it's critical that we have public awareness and public participation in our efforts. >> this latest terror video calls for attacks like the one carried out at the weszgate maul in conditionia back in september of 2013 which killed more than 60 people. what's different about this propaganda video is that it names specific mauls like mall of america and west edmondton mall in canada. not long after the interview, fbi intelligence officials further clarified the threat saying this quote -- there's no doubt that al shabab would like to carry out an attack on a u.s. mall but they are in a pretty weakened state. the bigger danger is theirability to inspire home-grown violent extremists inside the u.s. who might see

the propaganda and decide to act, end quote. however, the mall of america and the mall in alberta, canada both mentioned in the video, say they have implemented extra security precautions. secretary johnson commented on all of this once again at the national governors association winter meeting in washington, d.c. cnn's erin mcpike is at that meeting, where she caught up with the secretary, following his earlier comments. so erin what is he saying now? >> reporter: fred first let me give you more context. u.s. law enforcement officials are pointing out despite this video, this is no specific credible threat to the united states but in his comments johnson said the very idea that even when these frightening calls to action pop up there is still not a specific credible threat he says that kind of statement is becoming less relevant because they can't predict when individuals, these lone wolves who are inspired by

these calls, will act on them. with that in mind and his advice to americans going to the minnesota mall today, to be particularly careful, i asked him to clarify. what does it means when going to the mall of america today need to be more careful? what should they do? >> well, thee see an enhanced security presence there, but very often a security presence cannot be the complete answer. so the public needs to be aware and needs to be vigilant. if you see something, say something, is not just a logan. >> again u.s. officials are say there's not a direct threat here but it still may scare many americans. i asked him if he regretted his comments and fred he said no. >> erin mcpike, thank you so much in washington. let's talk more about this constantly evolving threat in the words of jeh johnson. joining us is cnn military analyst colonel peter mansour.

good to see you. this message and the clarification of the mechanic what is happening here? and in your view what is the message that mens should be getting? new threat? old threat? no credibility in this? what's the interpretation n. your view? >> well the government walks a fine line between informing the public of threats to possible locations, and giving too many credibility to these terrorist groups that quite frankly don't have a lot of capable necessarily to operate on american soil. and we run the risk of spooking the american public and affecting the local economy just on the base of a threat that may other matt notice be credible. this is what the government has to consider in airing these threats. the public should always be

vigilant. this has just become part of our modern society, and this should be business as usual for the american people. if you see something, say something, but get on with your life. >> secretary johnson also reiterated targeting soft spots has always been a likely target. when you have a propaganda where i had i don't like the one released yesterday, with an image of the mall of america, does this in your view change the game? change the message? >> i don't think it changes the message to the american people. the threat unless the government has additional information that they're not releasing that's credible and specific, they should just merely acknowledge that this video exists and that the american people should remain vigilant but that they should get on with their lives. in the words of the londoners who were under attack from terrorists by the i.r.a. for a couple decades, keep calm and

carry on. so this is a terrorist group that's trying to have an impact on the american people on the west with this images with this video, and we should acknowledge it for what it is propaganda but we should move on with our lives. >> do you worry that this video further inspires these so-called, you known, independent actors? >> that's the wild card. someone in minneapolis or mountain somali community up there who's been radicalized might see this video, might see the call to the mall of america and take action. that's where the real wild card comes in. this is where, quite frankly, good intelligence good domestic intelligence in these local communities comes to play and as well as working with the local community leaders to have their youth resist the call to action and resist these

terrorists incitements to violence and work with the communities to integrate more fully into the american society. colonel peter mansoor, thank you for joining us. still ahead, how big a role does politics play? today reps want to cut the department's budget. but secretary jeh johnson says his employees need funding to protect the country from other threats. plus -- what impact are rudi giuliani giuliani's comments are having on fellow republicans considering a run for the presidency?

two weeks later. look, credit karma-- are you talking to websites again? this website says "free credit scores." oh, credit karma! yeah it's actually free. look, you don't have to put in your credit card information. whew! credit karma. really. free. jeh johnson says the latest terror threat from al shabab against shopping malls is part of the reason he needs a budget. remember funding for the

department of homeland security is stalled in congress because republicans are tying the funding to measures that would undo some of president obama's executive actions on immigration. funds run out at the end of the month, which would result in about 30,000 furloughs. joins us to take about it is larry saeb ado. and l.z. grander son, and colin son, good to see all of you. steven let me begin with you. will the latest threat against the mall of america motivate congress perhaps to fund the department of homeland security? >> it certainly makes it different to withhold those funds. it puts another sort of fly in the ointment in the political atmosphere in washington. there was also a massive row over funting the dhs, and this will make it more different. i think it shows the new age of terrorism, if you look the idea that you know a foreign

terrorist group doesn't need to send operatives to the united states but can try to inspire members of the immigrant community, perhaps a lone wolf person who's been radicalized. and it's very interesting, we're seeing almost a competition between terror groups to spread fear and disruption through social media. we've seen isis do it with their notorious videos perhaps more so than al shabab but the purpose is to spread fear and disruption you've seen the security measures and that's just one example of what thinks videos can do. >> l.z. do you see the timing might be influential to this funding issue? >> well it would be very unfortunate if it is because that just means that you know

once again dheer playing politics with american lives, as opposed to doing what's logically best for the american people. obviously because of this latest video there will be an impetus to pass a billsh d. the truth of the matter they -- not if you're very serious about protecting the border now if you're very kearse about protecting american lives. this should never have been a chip or never should be a chess piece in this game that they're playing. >> larry? >> i've always thought ha homeland security funding was a bad choice. they have the opportunities now that they control both houses to contest what president obama is doing. this was just an unwise choice even more unwise now. we'll see if they get the message. >> you know for a second time in a week scott walker is coming under fire first for remain silent why rudy giuliani questioned the president's love

for the country, and walker is now saying he didn't know if the president was christian. of course walker thinks the president is -- so then adding i guess to the trail of behavior now, before all of this walker wouldn't even answer if he believed in evolution. so l.v. you know what is behind walker either playing it safe if that is what it is or remaining silent. will that get him any closer to a 2016 gop nomination? >> this is all very new to him. i understand that he's had some very difficult times and have come out victorious in wisconsin. this is a different game. national politics is a very different game. i've had an opportunity to spend a good chunk of time with him recently. and we talked about a litany of things. i also came away wondering if the man i just spend time with is going to be the man that will actually run for president.

the man i spent time with is forthright genuine, kind and this is a very dirty game. he's just at the very beginning of this process. >> larry, is that at the root here an unfamiliarity with the national stage, and realizing what is said and what is not said? really carries a lot of weight? >> that's part of it. every governor every senator who decides to run for president thinks they have already been through the heat of a campaign. they know what it's like. no they never know what it's like of running for president is 100 times more intense than running for these lower offices. >> i think governor walker who has shot to the top all of a sudden is learning this sooner rather than later, which could help him if he adjusts. >> steven how does a potential candidate not know that? doesn't it speak to you're

ready, your readiness before you engage in potential right-hands for presidency? shouldn't el think about this? have a good feel for the landscape? >> i guess knowledge is one thing and experience is another. david axelrod, president obama's political guru has been saying this week that running for president is really really hard and it should be because the job of being president is the hardest job in the world. you know scott walker has had a pretty tough time in wisconsin, he's won two close elections, won a recall election been involved in political controversy, but the level of the scrutiny and exposure you get is a much higher register. the good candidates are the one that absorb this they carry on and get better. you've seen candidates like barack obama, hillary clinton, george w. bush they've made mistake early on but able to improve their performance, get past that.

we'll see whether scott walker is in that category. >> in large part we're talking about scott walker because of what rudy giuliani. are republicans as a whole goods to disinvite him, hope he doesn't show up at certain events or use it to their advantage in some way? >> of course they're going to use it but no one is using it more than rudy giuliani this is about his business his brand. he's not setting policies. i've spent a lot of time in d.c. it's been a long time since i've seen him coming out of any important meeting. he's just trying to make sure to keep his brand out there. he's the person that gets hired for the $10 to $20,000 speeches. that's what he's doing, doing hi job to keep hi name out there. >> larry? >> well let's remember one thing, when rudy giuliani ran for president, he crashed and xwurnd. he was a disaster.

the best thing he could go for the republican party, if he wants to is to yield the stage to the new candidates who are trying to carry their own message without interference with a candidate who failed before. >> and, you know steven i guess the speaking engagement hon rarium he actually crashed that 21 club the other day. he wasn't invited, so really no royalty, but maybe reaping some royalties by getting all the attention from what was said. what's next for him, steven? >> you know rude,julianist is not a national political figure anymore, as larry said but he still has a voice. people remember his heroism and his leadership during the september 11th attacks when he was, you know one of the only voices of calm and steadiness during thunderstorms terrible hours. he has a certain cachet but it seems he's missing being in the

game. if you look at the tv appearances, he's not backing away from this seems gleeful and enjoying it. to some extent that's going to pose problems for republican candidates who will keep getting add, what do you think about this what rude jill giuliani said? >> good to see all of you. thanks so much. we're going to talk weather straight ahead. we are not done by the way, with this arctic cold and snow. there's so much more ahead, straight ahead find out if you are in the past of the next winter blast.

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okay. it's cold i know i'm getting repetitious, but it really is. millions of americans are getting ice and snow from the latest winter storm. we've lost count. elsewhere, dangerously cold temperatures if they don't get snow. 60 million americans, in fact across 13 states are under windchill advisories right now, and frigid temperatures and ice in nashville causing the roads to crack in some places just like there, and north of atlanta, a lot more ice covering fences and tree limbs, windchills are plunging to minus 40 in parts of north dakota and subzero readings are expected to the northeast as well. all this recent snow in the northeast is in fact causing more roofs to collapse. this barn roof in massachusetts

gave way, killing two horses and at least 26 people have died in the past week across the u.s. and canada in weather-related incidents. it is bad and it seems like it's getting worse. let's talk more about this new dangerous winter storm forming in colorado now. that could bring a snow measured in feet. live pictures right now, some folks are really excited about this particularly the skiers but only if you're already at the resort you know or you're already taking the runs. there's nothing about driving it. tom sader is with us now. >> they could use snow. well finally the cold air is well we're sharing that with the rest of the u.s. take a look at our cold. here re go. this is a cold front for sunday drops down into month.

some snow has been falling in the denver area but heavier in southern colorado, but from luck buck tolubbock, to shreveport. i'm going to put the freeze line on here. this is the color pink but the cold air is dropping southward. this will set the stage for significant sleet across north-central areas of texas into the dallas metroplex. this is going to cause problems not just along i-20 but much of the i-20 in the south, but for flights getting out of the dallas. big delays even cancellations. as we look at what's happening in the snowfall it's southern areas of the rockies, flagstaff could sigh their first snowfall in a month, so they could use this. it hasn't really been that way. we have been breaking hundreds of records for cold temperatures in the east hundreds twice as many records for warmth we haven't even talked about that. >> here is the pattern right

now, fredricka. now that the jet stream is diving out here more to the southwest. believe it or not, this is going to set the stage for after this storm, not just one, but maybe two more this week to take the same pathogen rate in the south, and move across the south. where they develop in the gulf and if they come off in the carolinas could mean more not just frigid cold for the great lakes in the northeast, but more snow into piedmont the carolinas, into the d.c. area maybe up to new york and of course boston which has now reached 100. >> yeah, 100 inches. >> that's amazing for me to hear it. is that far above their average? >> 32 inches okay they only need 7 1/2 for the all-time snowiest season. >> something tells me they're going to make it. >> i think they will. >> tom, thanks so much. appreciate it. here's a question for you, why are terrorists calling for

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>> threat be enhanced security there, but public vigilance, public awareness and public caution in situations like this is particularly important. it's the environment we're in frankly. >> the propaganda video is frommed al qaeda-linked terror group al shabab. not long after johnson commented on the threat here on cnn, fbi counterintelligence officials further clarified saying this quote, there is no dote al shabab would like to carry out an attack but they are in a pretty weakened state. the bigger danger is to indict the u.s. who might see this propaganda and decide to act. cnn's will ripley is on the story for us. and joins us live from new york. will law enforcement is say

there's no actual working threat. but they are taking precautions. include the understand is worried about, be kefrd about them. already the extensive security procedures keeping in mind this is a part of a country that al shabab is very familiar with. their name means "the youth." they claimed responsibility for 2013's assault on the westgate mall. >> this new al shabab propaganda video targets the west threatening westgate-style maul

attacks in the u.s. canada and the uk. >> announcer: this is a drill. mall of america is now going into lockdown. >> reporter: the mall of america already has extensive security to protect more than 40 million annual visitors today they're adding new safety measures saying we take any potential threat seriously. the west edmondton maul in alberta, canada is also increasing security even though officials say there's no indication of an actual threat. do we believe that al shabab is sending operatives to the u.s.? no, they've been pretty much depleted. the propaganda is the bigger concern. the somalia based -- home to the largest somali population in the u.s. >> we are still losing them. is it a terrorist hotbed here in the midwest? it is.

>> they've been investigating terrorist recruitment efforts for five years. minneapolis community leaders says a small minority of disillusioned young men are looking for a path. >> most of them are between two cultures americans, but not necessarily don't feel totally accepted. >> al shabaab recruited troy and then his friend both died fighting for terrorist groups. >> it is it's the hardest, the hardest loss that there is. >> his mother told cnn last year she believes her son was manipulated by propaganda. the same propaganda now calling for bloody attacks on western malls, trying to strike fear in the heart of the west. and, of course fred we do need to point out this is only a very small minority of people who are influenced by these problem ganna videos. however, as we have seen time

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opportunities. so young people won't want to join their ranks. in britain police are conducting an intensive search for three missing teenage girls who are believed to be on their way to syria, possibly to join isis. the family of one of the girls has issued an urgent plea begging their daughter to come home. president obama addressed isis recruiting tactics during an anti-terror summit in washington. he says muslim communities need to push back on terrorist propaganda. >> the notion that the west is at war with islam is an ugly lie. and all of us regardless of our faith have a responsibility to reject it. >> the president is also calling on religious leaders to confront extreme ideologies that attract young recruits. let's bring in imam mohammed ma yesterday, executive director of the all dulles area muslim society. good to see you, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for inviting me.

>> i remember you saying in one hour you may talk to a young potential recruit. isis programs takes two hours to reprogram. what is it that a terrorist group like isis is saying to these young people to convince them to kind of come to the other side, come with them. >> what isis is doing is trying to reinterpret events around the world and telling people there's a war against islam, and come and join us. you will have a life of fulfillment, a life of purpose, and they do this online. therefore they are 24 hours online talking to young people. thank god that we have a community that are very much integrated to american society, who have been resisting and rejecting that. those who are being attracted to this kind of ideology the parents are noticing that change on them and bring them for counselling, so we try to do our

best to have help them to change their minds about in ideology. >> there were lots of powerful messages from this anti-terror summit. some 'em talked about these challenges. take a listen. >> terror is their obsession. it's what they do. and if we let them they are sing the purpose could actually wind up giving them a comparative advantage, but with the images of recent outbreak fresh in our minds, everybody here knows we simply can't let that happen. we have to match their commitment and we have to leave them with no advantage at all. >> these extremists are pursuing a deliberate strategy of shock and offer, beheadings burnings -- designed to morize

and terrorize and provoke and divide us. the victims are as diversion as a humankind itself but let us recognize that the vast majority of the victims are muslims p. >> socioeconomic conditions that provide the fertile ground for the spread of this ideology unemployment poverty, illiteracy the youth, ladies and gentlemen are the most vulnerable the most targeted by violent extremism. jordan will utilize the membership in the security council and the upcoming presidency to highlight youth as a vehicle for peace-building and prosperity. in this regard i would like to say it is all about education, education, education, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, empowerment, empowerment, empowerment. >> so imam i'm hearing a few messages there. i'm hearing about this commitment that has to come from imams and other religious leaders. is that really perhaps the only effective way to preserve the

faith and name of islam, and at the same time preserve protect young potential recruits? >> absolutely. we have to teach young people the true message of islam. islam is a religion that teaches theology of life. this extremist groups isis and others, teach the theology of death. islam teaches theology of building and those people talking about demolishing and burning and killing people. therefore there's a responsibility of imam it is and religion owls leaders to teach young people the right message, but also to go virtual. we have to go to the internet and the facebook and twitter accounts where the -- those groups have been utilizing and try to recruit young people. unfortunately sometimes when they issue a video, and the video gets to be published and being aired on many youth

agency they use this also as a opportunity to attack young people. that's why i think counters messages comes from twofold, one for religious aspect of it and the second is the social programs that engage the youth and give them the sense of purpose. >> so you do acknowledge there's a great responsibility on imams and other religious leaders, perhaps even parents. >> absolutely. >> who have to try to convey to these young people you don't want to go this route, but clearly something is not working, as writer seeing and hearing a number of young recruits is growing, as opposed to the numbers going down. what's missing? what is not happening to really convince some of these young people not to join groups like isis? >> it has to be a collective effort and we have to address the issue that the isis and the other uses a a means of recruiting the young people.

whether the question of the issue of injustice that they see as some part of the world, and we need to explains those events through the islamic lenses or the vision of islam, because injustice does not judd injustice. >> are you feeling from us traited or even powerless right now? >> i feel optimistic in some extent and field worried in another, you know you know i have both mixed feelings but i'm very optimistic because in my own community i will see that we have largest boy scouts a scout program, our youth very much integrated in the larger community, and we have seen millions of youth, whether in america or around the world of muslims, young people doing things very productive. we need more of that. >> you're optimistic but you are worried. >> i'm worried about the

recruitment that we see today, but at the same time i do believe the answer is more social programs more engaging people to do the right thing, to do what of youth would do. there are, we are again a culture of gangs and again as a culture of terrorism as well. so we need to protect the youth by giving them a sense of purpose. >> all right imam mohammed magid, thank you for your typhoon, and all best in your effort. much more right after this.

all right. roll out the red capital. the oscars just hours away now. among the movies making the most buzz ferdinand and boyhood, both considered front-runners for best picture. as for best actor, all eyes will be on bradley cooper for his role as chris kyle in "american sniper." and michael keaton nominated for "birdman." cnn has special coverage with don lemon and michaela pereira.

it all starts toot at 6:00 prm. the 57th running of daytona 500 is under way, but there are new safety concerns following a crash in a different race same track yet. kyle busch, a brother of kurt busch who is indefinitely suspended, one of racing's bigs stars crashing into the concrete wall carried out on a stretcher, in the hospital with serious injuries and he may not be able to race for months. cnn's john newsom is at the daytona 500, witnessed yesterday 'crash. don, you're a regular there, and what is likely to happen differently on the track as a result of yesterday's crash now? >> reporter: fred as we mentioned, i'm here at the daytona 500. i was here yesterday for the saturday race. in the final 30 lapse, there were two significant wrecks

definitely newsworthy the second of which involved kyle busch. in the last final lapse, kyle was on turn -- turning into turn one, and there were a couple cars in a wreck, as they were aggressively trying to position for position one, and he slid into the infield wall a concrete wall and hit it very, very heart. i tacked to a number of people here and many of whom said it was the hardest hit that they have seen. busch was taken to the medical center whether they dugged him with a compound fracture of the right lower mid and mid fracture of his left foot so both legs were involved. he underwent surgery last night and will be out indefinitely. the president of daytona international speedway said yesterday that the track failed

to live up toants response due to the lack of -- and temporary they've installed two rows of tires to deal with the potential impact of a car going into the infield. this concrete wall is the only difference between where the racers are and many of the people staying on the fine field. it's a critical wall. they have already lined the outer stretch of this entire racetrack with this bareius, and it's one of the situation where sports -- you know these cars are going 200 miles an hour there's these sort of vulnerable i 234esh8g9s and yesterday kyle bush stumbled upon one of them. nascar is trying to rectify it. unclear if they will apply this to other speedways. daytona is one of them as well as talladega and atlanta are among the superspeedways where carsing -- -- >> john newsom thank you so

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