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in "newsroom", and it all starts right now. \s . hello again, everyone. thanks so much for joining me. a warning from the homeland security chief on cnn's "state of union today." jeh johnson tells american shoppers to be careful. the comments reacting to new video that you'll see in a moment pull out by al shabaab, and calls for attacks on shops mauls in the uk canada and the united states. what is different is that it names specific sites lice the west edmondton mall in canada and the mall of america in minnesota. >> i am very concerned about the serious potential threat of independent actors here in the united states. we've seen this in europe in canada. >> but specifically against the mall of america.
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>> anytime a terrorist organization calls for an attack on a specific place, we have to take that seriously. through our intelligence bulletins, through working with the fbi, we take this kind of thing very seriously. >> i just want to read you one more thing. this is a statement from the mall of america today -- mall of mish is aware of a threatening video that was released. we take any potential threat seriously and respond appropriately. we have implemented extra security precautions, some may be noticeable to guests and others won't. what are you telling americans who might be planning a trip to the maul this sunday? >> what we're telling the public in general is you've got to be vigilant. we just revamped our, if you see something, say something campaign at the super bowl last month. so public engagement public awareness is critical. americans should still feel that
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they are free to associate, they are free to go to public gatherings but it's critical that we have public awareness and public participation in our efforts. >> shortly after johnson's appear yams on "state of the union" fbi counter terrorism officials further clarified the threat saying quote -- there is no doubt that al shabaab would like to carry out an attack on a u.s. mall but they're in a pretty weakened state. the bigger danger is their ability to inspire home-grown terrorist. we've got team coverage of the comments and the new video. will ripley is in new york city examining why al shabaab is focusing on but first erik mcpiatt is at the governors winter meeting. what more was said? >> i did ask him to clarify
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those remarks. when he said americans headed to the mall in america should be extra careful. i asked him what exactly does that mean? he says it's important for the american public to get engaged, when you see something, say something. some of what he said caught washington surprise by this morning that maybe he sparked some unnecessary fear. so i asked him about that. >> i know i know what you just said do you regret any of the comments you made this morning? >> no, no. >> but there may be some concern that this could wind up hurting the local economy, because minnesotaens may not want to go to the mall, i asked the governor governor's smocksman, he did tell me the governor is monitoring the situation and will continue to consult the guidance of federal, state and
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local law enforcement officials who are working together to assure the safety of all minnesotaeningss minnesotaens. fred what makes all of this somewhat confusing is a number of u.s. officials have said throughout the day even mo the mall of america was mentioned in this video, there's no known specific credible threat here. secretary johnson largely diminished that by is a ig these lone wolf attacks make threats much more different to detect. >> erin mcpike, thank you so much. will ripley why is al shabaab focusing on minnesota, the mall of america, even the west edmondton wall in canada. >> western malls in general, and there are other malls that are believed to possibly be targets here which cnn is not naming. we're only naming the malls that have publicly acknowledged a
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threat but the mall of america is significant, the fact that it's the united states largest shopping centers, but also because of its location near the twin cities in minnesota, which is a place where al shabaab has been recruiting militants for years now. their name means "the youth." they claimed responsibility for 2013's assault on the westgate mall. more than 60 people died. >> what if an attack was to occur in minnesota. >> this new al shabab propaganda video targets the west, threatening westgate-style maul mall attacks in the u.s., canada and the uk. >> announcer: this is a drill. mall of america is now going into lockdown. >> reporter: the mall of america already has extensive security to protect more than 40 million annual visitors. today they are
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adding new safety measures saying we take any potential threat seriously. the west edmondton mall in alberta, canada is also increasing security, even though officials say there's no indication of an actual threat. abfbi spokesman tells cnn -- do we believe that al shabab is sending operatives to the u.s.? no, they've been pretty much depleted. the propaganda is the bigger concern. the fbi thinks that they're trying to use propaganda like isis and al qaeda to inspire -- the somalia based -- home to the largest somali population in the u.s. >> we are still losing them. is it a terrorist hotbed here in the midwest? it is. >> cnn has been investigating terrorist recruitment efforts for five years. minneapolis community leaders says a small minority of disillusioned young men are looking for a path. pinches most of these kids are torn between two cultures, americans, but not necessarily don't feel totally
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accepted an americans. >> this is the real disneyland. >> two young men from minnesota recruited, both died fighting for terrorist groups. >> it is, it's the hardest, the hardest loss that there is. >> his mother told cnn last year she believes her son was manipulated by propaganda. the same propaganda now calling for bloody attacks on western malls, trying to strike fear in the heart of the west. and fred that's why you hear the fbi saying that they are so concerned about this propaganda because of the fact that al shabaab does have a dark connection to certain members of the somali community there in the twin cities. they're fearful that those individuals could be influenced by this and perhaps motivated to act. all right. will thank you so much and ark mcpie at the top as well. thank you. what is it about these islamic extremist terror groups
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that seems to constantly attract new recruits. with us in the united kingdom is the author of "in the land of invisible women" doctor good to see you. glad you could be with us. when we talk about isis al shabaab, al qaeda, all different groups but all seemingly operating under the same auspices as being faithful to islam. if religion is indeed being used to help recruit, how much do you worry that it will only spread from here? >> let me just correct something, fredricka. they're not faithful to islam, but absolutely fanatic, you to islamist ideology. >> isn't that what they're telling recruits? >> they may say that but the ideology is explicitly islamist. part of why this goes hard to explain is the debate has been truncated. we're not able to speak clearly in the media, academicia even
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in the left of the white house, so the confusion exists but the way they are recruiting or seducing naive, willing participants is those participants don't have a structure or knowledge about islam, and they want to be seduced into what i can best describe as a three dimensional individual i don't game. they want to play-act in this pursuit of rabid jihadism and actually your report is very well put together. we heard about the domestic radicalization among the minnesota immigrant community from somalia three years ago in congressional hearings in which i testified in the king hearings. somali parents themselves somali americans whose children were american born had become radicalized and participated in shabaab. they were some of the first americans to ask for more investigation and. this is a natural development. >> you said something very profound there.
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you want recruiting going after young people who don't know about the structure of islam. i heard one analyst put it that they are proposing a kind of prophetic version of islam, and these young people are recruited, get sucked right into that. so how do you combat that? if it's up to imams, if there is no one leadership of the islamic faith and it is up to imams or other leaders to help these young people understand what the true understanding of islam is that there isn't this prophetic version, how do you get to that? clearly the current methods of reaching these young people particularly it's not working. >> i mean that's a great question. i think it's multifaceted. it's not just trying to reach the people that are already seduced in the narrative. this is going to take a security aspects, a political aspect. in the united kingdom we have much more closed-circuit
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surveyian than in the united states. that's an anathema to the united states. i'm in the united kingdom where we value privacy as a democratic right, but we are going to have to use all methods at our disposal. once an individual has gone on the path to joining shabaab, he may be irretrievable at that point. we may need to go to root causes. that means how religion is pros le pros le advertised but when we have a white house summit countering extremism, which denies the use of islamist islamic jihadism we don't have a hope of trying to battle this. >> you think that's a mistake to omit the word "islam". >> not only is it deplorable it is consequential. it's consequential.
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it's why a month or two months after "charlie hebdo" we're industry struggling to find the words. here our prime minister uses it without any hesitation. the press here is not limited in the way we are in the united states. the public discourse is not limited in the united kingdom the way we are in the united states. we have to look at the mall of america thing as two things. of course it's a terrorist and security threat to a single building but this is part of a larger non-conventional indollant jihadist and no geographical limits. that's what the united states has to accept. >> can i interpret what you're saying is that it's misguided to think that the use of "islam" would in any way hamper the relationship that, say, the u.s. has with other nations, islamic nations, muslim nations, it would not stand in the way of
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that relationship by the use of the world "islamic extremists"? >> i would say exactly right. muslim nations at the moment are waging war. the words of the king of jordan we are going to respond with an earth-shaking response to these islamists. general asissi to the leading clerics, asked for the ideology to be rooted. the united states is unique in its avoidance of addressing this ideology and what that does even though it's been discounted widely in the press, is that it means our national security our counter-terrorism, or homeland security starts off at a disadvantage. they're trying to secure a mall of america from something like what they might imagine a 20th century model of a terrorist group when they're dealing with 21st referencery -- and if we remember nairobi, westgate they went to a mall in a
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multicultural society to exhibit the grossest form executing christians and releasing whoever they thought was apparently muslim. that's what they want to reproduce in the united states. >> indeed we will leave it there. fascinating point of view thanks so much for joining us from the uk today. appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up from chicago all the way to louisiana, america is frozing solid. tom sater takes a look at another round the freezing temperatures. it's a broken record. >> it is. this air mass is so cold. it's not coming from the north pole. this is coming from siberia, crossing the north pole. more cold means more records that will be broken. more snow sleet, freezing rain and more misery for the millions of americans. >> thanks for the warning. you're watching cnn noirm.
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31 million americans in 14 states are under advisories and thing will only get worse. it's quite serious. windchills are a real threat from 40 below in north dakota to below freezing as far south as texas and louisiana. let's get the latest from cnn's tom sater. so if you were unfamiliar with cold temps, yeah, meet the cold. >> is anybody unfamily? >> not anymore. it's in your face. >> this is bad. we could see the coldest advisories and warnings in effect. reports will get shattered. we have broken hundreds of record low temperatures back in the 30s, back to the 1800 current windchill minus -- minus 19 and it's going to get worth. albany minus 12 tomorrow morning and it's going to get worst. another blast of siberian air. it will be well down to the
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south. not quite as bad as last week's but it's going to set the stage for a storm system in the four corners area warnings in pink snow already in denver but the problem will significant sleet and freezing rain maybe 2 inches of sleet in the dallas area. so again, as you see the freezing line, that would be sleighting southward. we'll watch this for a while. it will be with us and this is not the only one this week fredricka fredricka. >> stop it already. >> i know. sorry. >> tom, that's the way it is. we'll have to deal with it. thanks so much. still ahead, while bobbi kristina brown is in a medically induced coma at a hose her family and boyfriend remain caught in a twitter fight. what her boyfriend now says about not being allowed toss her. to see her.
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all right. checking our top story, bobbi kristina brown's boyfriend is responding to her father's accusations that he hasn't tried hard enough to see her at the hospital. earlier this week bobby brown said nick gordon could see bobbi kristina but only if he met certain conditions. the conditions were not disclosed to the public. this morning gordon's lawyers released this statement -- bobby brown has consistently prohibited nick who bobbi
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kristina would want by her seed. nick has repeatedly offered to meet privately to discuss the request in person rather than through lawyers. the offers have also been rejected. the 21-year-old daughter of whitney houston remains in an induced coma three weeks after she was found unresponsive in a bathtub in her home. federal prison officials in south texas will relocation nearly 3,000 inmates after a majority of them were able to break out of their housing units during a lockdown and set several small fires. the corrections center says the inmates refused to participate in work duties and some were unhappy about the prison's medical services. 2,000 of them broke out when -- and went to a recreational center but none breached the outer fences. and hundreds of people gathered in harlem this weekend to mark the 50th year since the assassination of malcolm x. the civil rights activist is
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best known for his uncompromising stand for equality in the '60s. in the early years of the movement malcolm x was viewed as the embodiment of black power. yesterday his daughter honored her father's legacy. >> our people cultivated this land that was once barren enslaved and we can now call it the united states of america. it's important we make sure they're honored, that their lives were not in vain. i would like to bring us into a moment of silence. it's around the time that my father was brutally assassinated martyred right here in this blue light. >> three members of the nation of islam were convicted of malcolm x's murder. the muslim leader had a public feud with the nation less than a year before his assassination. and we'll have much more from "newsroom" after this.
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security there, but public vigilance, public awareness and public caution in situations like this is particularly important. it's the environment we're in frankly, all more reason i need a budget. remember funding for the department of homeland security is stalled in congress because republicans are tying the funding to measures that would undo some of the president obama's actions on immigration. funds run out at the end of the month which could result in about 30,000 furloughs. joining me to talk about all of this mark lamont hill and ross and senior correspondent for cnn politics.com chris moody. gentlemen, good to see you. chris, will a threat against the mall of america motivate congress perhaps to fund the department of homeland security? >> i think it's going to take a lot of factors. i don't believe congress is going to let it lapse. you might see this thing, the
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funding ping-pong back and forth between the house and senate as we've seen they always seem to find a deal even if at the end of a long path even if it's the last minute. so threats like this obviously are going to spur action but i -- it's hard to see it going past that deadline. >> ross? >> i mean i -- >> go with ross first. >> sorry. i was just going to say it's hard to imagine how democrats would have responded to this if during the bush administration there had been a debate about a serious policy issue, like in this case the funding debate over immigration is a serious one having to do with congressional prerogatives. if the bush administration had sent tom ridge out to say, you know, if you don't do what the white house wants you're capitaling with al qaeda basically. that is sore of the implication that the white house seems to be trying to push by bringing up this terrorist attack. i'm just trying to imagine -- >> so you think there's something to the timing?
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>> um i -- let mess just put it this way. i would imagine that the department of homeland security deals with a wide range of possible threats, and that it is certainly possible at any given moment if they need to bring one out to do so. i obviously don't know that that happened here but i think that cynical reading is a fairly reasonable reading to makes. >> so mark we're hearing two things here. they can't possibly let it lapse, and then in other respects sort of hedging on the timing issue. where do you fall in all of this? >> we've had -- wyche spent the last three years with looming deadlines. so i don't ever underestimate congress's ability to completely mismanage negotiations. that's democrats and republicans alike. i do think that there is a bit of political theater here when you say, well, look, there was this isolated attack and al shabaab may go guts isis may
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have another threat i do think that's a bit problematic. i'm never -- however, there is a very clear nuts-and-bolts argumenting to made if you don't fund the department of homeland security and we're down to a skeleton budget, then you do compromise your ability to defend or borders from terrorism. i think that's a reasonable argument and pretty plain argument to make. i think it's troublesome we haven't done it and lastly we're tying a immigration beef with homeland security. i don't think that's okay to do. >> let's talk politics of another kind. in a time time in a week scott walker is coming under fire, first for remaining silent. while rudy giuliani questioned the president's love for country and now he tells the post he didn't know if and later his office saying of course walker
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thinks the president is christian. and we can't forget that walker wouldn't even answer if he believes in evolution, so the question is what is behind walker either playing it safe or remaining silent. is it a smart strategy or just trying to get used to being on the national stage? ross, you first. >> yeah i think that basically what's happening to walker is that he's been vaulted to a kind of quadi i quasi-front-runner status. walker is getting the kind of gotcha questions that i think republicans tend to get a bit more obvious than democrats, and he's not handling them that well. i think it's possible to say a lot of these questions are ridiculous. i think it's ridiculous to ask him whether he thinks the
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president is christian. i think the random question about evolution -- let's ask the american yahoo about what he thinks and he's trying to avoid them all, but i don't think that that avoidance works. i think it's much simpler, in the kay of the president's religion yes, that's a stupid question and let's move on. >> how do you see it? >> is it an issue of democrats don't get asked the same questions and he's not being treated fairly. how do you interpretal of this mark? >> i think democrats to some extent do get asked gotcha questions. they're different. they typically hover around our patriotism things like that but the other thing democrats don't get asked questions like this is we tend to ask them fairly roernl. if you go to the last 50
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democratic candidates they all believed in dinosaurs. i think scott walker is a victim of a certain kind of questioning, but it's also possible he doesn't think president obama is a christian. his answer is either playing to the cheap seats to the people who still question his legitimacy, patriotism maybe even he christianity or he's bad at questioning. either way he'll have problems. jeb bush should be really happy this week. >> is it just strategy or unfamiliar territories, getting the lay of the land? >> if you read the context of how walker responded, it wasn't like he said i don't believe obama is a christian. he said the reason i'm not answering is i don't know i'm not going to answer questions like that but i think it's a stretch to call these gotcha questions. these are simple questions. >> don't you have to answer they questions on the political stage? you have to be willing and able
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to answer anything right? >> the campaign trail is long and arduous road. >> and reveal who you are. >> you'll be ask a lot of questions, whether it's being policy questions, and also they smaller questions. sarah palin called it a gotcha question about she was asked what you read these are fairly easy questions. i think we need to point out possible presidential candidates have made themselves available to several reporters in the media. one big one on the democratic side, hillary clinton, really has not. >> she's been in hiding as some would say, for now. >> in the bunker. mark lamont hill chris moody, steve good to see all of you. bill o'reilly insists he did report from a combat zone during the faulklands war now he says his former c colleague is lying. we talked to that journalest
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next actually but first a look at this week's once to watch. you can see the full show at cnn.com/onestowatch. buck's path took him from the streets to the studio. here among the tight and tutus an innovative teacher would make his style of jerkin unique. fist time i saw charles, i saw a movement that was more fluid than anything i've ever seen a ballerina do. that's anarchy i just said that that they didn't have the same fluidity in their arms as charles, but literally they didn't. he improvised to his own music that he brought in let me show you this. i thought he was brilliant, and then changed the music and put classical music a. it changed him. it changed the fluidity of his
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movement. it slowed him down. gave him longer balances the aspiration to add an extra tern to point his foot to extend his line. >> i told them i didn't want to wear tights because i wasn't good forfuls it was a majority of girls enpoint. i thought that was interesting, because in jerken we are always on point. >> when i started explaining it to pinchal donors literal le someone called my father and says doesn't she snowe that hip-hop is the downfall of civilization? no i don't know that because they're wrong. my idea was how do i change this generation this mind set so they can see the beauty. this is followic dance, and i think charles is removing the fear.
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fox news' bill o'reilly firing back at mother jones and other critic who question his correspondent news being contradicted by seven former colleague includes fillo reporter ensberg. he's challenging the depicks hundred as a war zone or combat
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situation, but the fox news host insists he is not exaggerate inging. >> now you have said in describing this episode in about buenos airs. >> i don't think he was there. i don't think he knows what hammond, and i'll tell you why. i left the hotel, ensberg was still in the hotel. i came back running back with video for the braert broadcast, enberg was in the hotel. if he were in the plaza de mayo where was the video. why did you have to run it up to the feet point? i don't even know if he was there. i'd like everybody to ask him -- were you there? >> okay. >> because his reputation his nickname was room service eric. >> oh, boy.
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media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" brian stelter talked to eric enberg. >> it wasn't a combat situation by any sense of the word that i know. there were no people killed. he said that he saw troops fire into the crowd. i never saw that and i don't know anybody who did. i was there on the scene. the think that's gotten me talking about this is in one of those tape -- you haven't played it. >> i think i know which one you're going to refer to. let me play a couple sound bites. this is from the hamptons in 2009. >> when the argentines surrendered to the british there were riots in the streets of buenos aires i was i was out there pretty much by myself because other than the correspondents were hiding. i thought you've got to get out and cover the story, which i
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did. >> so eric, that was the first sound bite. he says no been else was out there. >> what he just said is a fabrication, a lie. there were five cbs news correspondents including him, assigned to that bureau. they were under the direction of larry doyle, one of our very best field producers. you marines will understand what i'm saying. he was a werp in the manners in vitt -- marines before he went to cbs. he's very skilled. he sent all five of the correspondents and all 10 or 12 of the crew members into the streets. nobody stayed in their hotel room because they were afraid. we were all working, and we saw what looked -- what was a moderate sized riot. it was a couple thousands people attacking the casa rosata or
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the area around it by waving their arms clapping chanting singing songs. nobody attacked the soldiers. nobody attacked the police. there were no -- there was nobody lying on the ground when it was over that i saw but at any rate alternate cbs people did their jobs covered the situation, brought their video back to be used and that was when o'reilly bucked at the idea of turning his tape that was shot by his camera man over to the unit that was putting together the story. when doyle said bob schieffer will do the story tonight and we'll use the video your crew shot he said i didn't come down here -- this is according to larry doyle, who remembers it well. o'reilly looked at him and said i didn't come dow jones here to shoot video so this old man can use it in his story. >> oh, my. well bill o'reilly's team has not responded to several requests to comment on this.
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let's take a look at our top stories right now. today an explosion killed two people dural a pro-ukrainian rally. the moment was caught on a video. all right. this is harkiev, where people were -- in addition to the two deaths 15 people were wounded, four people had been arrested. officials say the suspects belonged to a group that received training in russia. and if you would like to help people affected by the crisis in ukraine, you can visit cnn.com/impact. a family in new hampshire lit really needs a roof over their heads s theirs slid off while they were all inside the house. no one was hurt thankfully. inspectors aren't ready to blame the snow yet, but a thing layer had been building up on the roof. the state is already warning people of the danger of roof collapses. still ahead, just a few
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hours away from the biggest night in show business hollywood movies and guess who is in the middle of it all? wait a minute you're going to have to take the time to tie that bowtie there. don lemon there on the red carpet. what's going on? >> there's a method to my madness. i have a question for you about this. you're going to help me with fashion advice coming up but also -- i'm on the red carpet. the red carpet opens officially at the top of the hour in just a few minutes. a big gold curtain, you never know who will walk up and talk to us. will it be bradley cooper, benedict come betterr come
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all right. hollywood turns a spotlight on itsself tonight at the 87th annual academy awards. we've already kicked off if you ask our don lemon. he has gone without a tied-up tie, which tells me you were up all night playing, having fung. did i call it right? >> i'm have i a great time. you did, but i want to know should i go with classic bowtie. >> i knew it was coming. >> other a blue hike neck ties. the tuxedo is midnight blue i'm wearing armani or black -- >> i always love the bowtie by i'm going to go with the monochromatic thing. it for him ford is in the house, i would say that's what he would go for. >> so the blue tie?
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>> yes. >> done. >> what's going on? >> i know you were at confide a few parties and have some choices on best picture. >> reporter: i was. yes, i was at the harvey weinstein party last night, it was great. j. lo had on a beautiful fur coat. i saw ben fick cumberbatch. i got a selfie with david eye yellow and was at the tom ford fashion show almost mowed down reese witherspoon coming out of the bathroom. that would not have been good. the carpet officially hopes in just a few minutes. people are going to start arriving early, fred, because it's -- it may rain. they want to get here before the rain starts. i do. i have my picks. i want to know what yours are. best picture. >> i've seen nothing. i have had no time to see a then so maybe "boyhood" in the
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trailers i've seen i think it's remark a able then spent so much time invested. that's very unique. >> it took 12 years to do it. >> i love that. >> here's the thing. "boyhood is the odds-on favorite but in my estimation. i think for me i loved "theory of everything" and i loved "selma." "boyhood" was not my favorite but i think it's going to win. >> we're excited about that. guess what? you now have five seconds to put on your tie. we have to say good-bye to you. five seconds? >> you saw the blue. >> the midnight blue. that looks good. >> thank you and this amount of time giving you time to get ready for your show.
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that's coming up at 6:00. i love that promo picture. so cozy right there, best friends. i love it. >> reporter: do you have to leave in i want to show you my secret. >> what? >> reporter: i've got a box where i with peek over the crowd. >> we're going to look forward for your bird's-eye view. see you. have fun. we'll be right back, too. >> bye, friend. superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the s number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more.
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