♪ -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com you just saw "no laughing matter include the cosby allegations." but that is not the end of it. we have the top attorneys who have represented everybody from donald strauss-kahn to p. diddy. and now, the jury has concluded their deliberations in stephenville, texas, and we could have a verdict at any moment, and we could go live to the courtroom. and also we will have an interview with lee dan e yellsieldaniels the creator of "the empire" and what he has to say about being black

in hollywood, and the accusations against bill cosby, and the accusations against the man known as many america's dad. and join ging us now is alison cammarata, and that is powerful. i want to play a clip that stood out to me. >> in the hours that we stood out with her, she shared painful, intimate details about the past 30 years. and she was stoic, that is until the end of our last interview. >> oh my god. people are listening. my story is told. i am not lying. and now people know it. i am so sad for all of us but it validates every one of us to be able to compare our stories, and see the similarities, and knowing in our heart, pinlly, did it happen? did it really happen? yes, it really happened. and it is over. it is over.

>> wow. it is tough, right some. >> it is intense. >> do you think with all of the other accusers coming forward, do you think it is helping? >> yes they have talked about it the ground swell of support. how so many of them have carried the secret and shouldered it saying i guess i am the only one who had this experience, and now that more than two dozen women have come forward and they have talked to each other and formed a little mini support group, and it is important have a strength of numbers for them. >> and we did a special hour there with victims, but they call themselves survivors. >> yes, they are survivors. >> and why did you choose barbara? >> well you know, because you were one of the first people and it

was that article that gave other women a voice to come forward. >> and there at the end she said, "this is over. it is over." what is nex tort her? >> she is working with women who are victims of sexual violence, and she has shadow organization and it is supportive and she is finding a way to reach out and helping others. >> and what do you think is next for bill cosby, and it is so hard to talk about him, because he is an american icon, and still is, and what is next for him? >> well, look at what is happening with him. it is interest, because some big projects are canceled, and he is still on the comedy tour, and still going, and at times, he is met with standing ovation, and

times a that he is meta -- and times that he is met with protests. >> and he still not talking out about it. >> right. they are calling this vehemently the stor riy of innuendos, and product of lies and media vilification. thank you so much, alison. >> thank you, don. this is breaking news. we are hearing that there is a verdict in the eddie ray routh case, the man accused of killing chris kyle and chad littlefield in 2014. and ben brothman the famed attorney is going to be here to help guide us through it. and ed lavandera is here from stephenville stephenville texas, to guide us through it, and we have gotten

the 15-minute warning, and what do you know about this? >> well, we will be able to give us the verdict live. there are rules that have kept us from broadcasting the testimony live from inside of the trial, but withe will be able to broadcast the verdict live here in stephenville texas in the next 15 minutes or, so and we got that word. this jury is deliberating since 6:30 central, and 7:30 central, and it is about 2 1/2 hour and we foe that part of the time was eating dinner after a long day of testimony, and so clearly, which ever decision this jury has come to they came to it extremely quickly given the complexity, and how many people thought that it could go either way in this case in many ways and so a very quick and swift verdict here. we were told that they were prepared to work late into the night, and don, let me tell you how this is going to be playing out. there are two ways this is going to to go.

guilty and he would be sent to prison for life without the possibility of parole. the prosecutors have taken the death penalty off of the table here, and only one possible punishment which is if he is found the guilty, life if in prison. the if he is found not guilty by reason of insanty,ritynsanity, it would take a court order to have a release. and so the court said two options hee,re, because the defense said that he admitted to shooting the two men at the countryside gun range. that is how it is going to be playing out here. and after the verdict is read, they will move swiftly into the sentencing phase.

and w and we will hear the victim's statements here, and we are not sure who that will be and presumably ttae kyle chris kyle's wife. >> and so we have a verdict in the case of the trial of eddie ray routh. this is a capital murder trial, and as ed lavandera reported it is guilty not guilty or guilty by reason of insanity. and if he is not guilty, it is going to be life without possibility of parole.

and he has admitted to killing both of the men, but if he is found not guilty by reason of insanity, he is going to go to the state prison where there sis a state hospital, and whether or not he can be released will be decided by a trial at a later time. little field was 35 in a few days where he would have turned 36 if he had not been killed by the man and kyle was 35. and now shgs, everyone who has represented p. diddy to donald strauss-kahn what are you seeing this? >> well, because they don't have to go through the testimony, it is not knee-jekrk, but it is e emotional. and you have one of the most

heroic figures here the "american sniper" and one of the worst times to be on trial for this. if you are going to be guilty by insanity you would have readbacks, and the emotional verdict is that he killed this man, and he killed these men and he should be found guilty. >> you talked about the psychological impact, and the the attorneys have said that he dealed with the issues including post-traumatic stress disorder and the defense said so, but the pros prosecutor said that is not so, and that it was a put-on and he mew the kons knew the consequences of it and he knew what was going on. >> and to be not guilty by reason of insanity, you have to demonstrate that you knew the difference of right and wrong, and having dysfunctional problems is not a legal defense to what looked like a vicious murder n..

in the last evidence they admitted in the rebuttal was evidence of a reconstruction of the murder scene which showed that kyle was shot several times in the back. >> chris kyle shot four i'ms in the back and one time in the face or the head, and also chad little field was shot five times in the back and believed that he killed chad littlefield first. he waited for both men to unload the weapons before he killed them and does that lead to premeditation? >> well it does not have to the lead to premeditation, but it shows that he knew what he was doing, and planning it even if it was for a short time and he was not acting by legal insanty, and a number of things that suggest consciousness of guilt, and what h knew he was doing was wrong, and he ran a waiway from the scene, and he tried to avoid the police capture, and to step up and kill a person who is like a real american hero and by the

way, i had issues i was dealing with and i would be surprised that the jury finds him not guilty by reason of insanity. >> but he had issues ben, because it says that he had xwoen to the hospital in january, and shortly before and here it is right here, and the relatives and the police in in recent weeks and months that he had been troubled in 2013 from "the new york times" an article ak according to the court documents he had been undergoing treatment at a dallas medical center and green oaks hospital on january 24th, and again, this is 2013 shortly before the killings, and he was released from the v.a. center, and then returned and then again released on january 29th, and so he was being treated, and release and return and released again. and the family protested that release, because they said that he was dealing with the issues. will this factor into the ish

shusueissue? >> well, this jury will have to give him life in prison, if there is a lower crime that he could be convicted of, a fintd not capital murder but manslaughter or those issues but post of the soldiers coming back are dealing with a issue, and if even it sis a serious issue, it is not going to rise to the level of insanity but if the jury find him not guilty by are reason of insanity they are the jury who heard all of the testimony, but watching it it is from afar, it is a reach. the dine mix outside of the courtroom were the worst possible nightmare for a defense to be not tainted by the case with chris kyle's widow speaking on every radio.

>> and this is the highest grossing war movies of all time and not mentioning the the book on the best seller list. >> and people read and see and hear, and if you ask the average perp on the street, what-- d average person on the street, they say, what did you think of kyle? they say, well, it is not just another person, but it is a person who has been portrayed by the massive media as a hero. >> and you can see there on the screen that we are awaiting the verdict, and with were told five minutes ago within the next 15 minutes, we will be hearing the verdict from the jury in stephenville texas, and they are a awaiting the verdict of eddie ray routh who is the man who killed the subject of the movie "american sniper" chris

kyle kyle, and his workout and film star hero chad littlefield. and it is two years and a month to the day now that we will get the verdict of what his fate will be. and let me, again, our ed lavandera went through this and he is going to el you what will happen. the judge is set to go all night he said to the jury's discretion, and so the jury has decided they have a verdict. after the verdict, they will go directly into sentencing phase, and the judge will handle that sentencing and then of course, the victim's impact statement, and as ed lavandera said it would be from the wid e doeshgs and we will not hear that, and then they will decide the sentencing, and if ta have not reached a verdict tonight, the jury would have been sequestered, but it is not to happen. our man covering the trial, and the verdict now is c nshgs nshgsnn's

ed lavandera who is covering frus the courthouse and we remoments away from the verdict. are you hearing anything? >> well, i am watching the feed as you can see there and the people are milling around inside of the courtroom there, and giving you a sense of the men there in the sport coats, and the jeans, those are law enforcement officials who have been h through throughout the courtroom during the testimony, a ndnd that door is where eddie ray routh will enter in a moment, and that is what i can tell from the feed that the judge is not in the courtroom yet. and so obviously taking a little bit of time for everybody to get into place, and letting the word spread. as the shot was wider, i did not see the widow, taya kyle in the

courtroom courtroom, and on the edge is a man named jay novacek, and he is a former dallas cowboy, and he has become friends with her, and i don't see chad littlefield's parents in there yet. and so you will see that chad littlefield's family behind mrs. kyle and the brother jeff who has been here throughout the course of the testimony. and on the aisle there, from time to time, the family members of eddie ray routh if they have been allowed to be in the courtroom. many of the family members were witnesses, so they were not allowed to be in the courtroom through the testimony. but a lot of the people were --

>> and ed lavandera, we are going to go into the courtroom fou now. we seed dee ray routh entering with his attorneys. and as ed said that he believes that the widow and the friends of the widow are there and again, this is happening in the courtroom of stephenville texas. it is not looking like the judge has entered the courtroom, and here is the judge now. >> all rise. ict. the record reflect that the jury is not in the courtroom at this

time, and state's counsel and defense counsel, and let's bring in the jury and the defendant in nin.

troom at this time. and ms. stafford kwoshgs ru the fore foreperson of the jury? >> yes, your honor. >> and i have been advised that the jury has reached a verdict? >> yes, your honor. >> and will you please hand me that verdict, please. will you please stand, mr. routh. >> all right. we the jury find the defendant

eddie ray routh guilty of the capital indictment of murder as signed by the foreperson of the jury. you may be seated at this time. you wish to have the jury poll polled? >> yes, judge. >> all right. the jury to be polled is individual, and we will start with the first seat first. juror, i will ask you the first and each and every juror. is this a unanimous verdict of the jury? >> yes. >> juror two? >> yes. >> juror three? >> yes. >> juror four? >> yes, sir. >> juror five? >> yes, sir. >> juror six? >> yes, your honor. >> juror seven? >> yes. >> juror eight? >> yes, sir. >> juror nine? >> yes. >> juror ten? >> yes, your honor.

>> juror 11? >> yes. >> juror 12? >> yes, your honor. >> this completes your service, and i will receive this verdict and have it filed with the clerk with the papers of the court at this time. all right. mr. routh, if you please stand again. having received and accepted the jury's verdict this in this matter by statute, i will impose sentence at this moment for confinement of life in the texas department of corrections without the possibility of parole. that is the verdict of this court, and i will enter the judgment accordingly, and you may be seated at this time again. andly continue mr. st. john as your attorney in regard to your rights to appeal, and that is a

direct appeal to the eastland court of appeals which is the home of the 11th court of ap e peels which is the court for this jurisdiction and your rights with regards to filing ap e peeling for discretionary review with the court of ap peelpeals many in texas. i will remand your custody to the sheriff of the county to carry out the imposition of the court and the jury's verdict in this verdict. do you have a legal reason that it should not be imposed? >> and i would say that the jury cannot the -- >> well, there you have erd heard it the jury finding eddie ray routh guilty and the judge saying that he is going to be spending the the rest of his life in prison and no parole. again, guilty. judge jason cashin asking the

forefoern approach -- forefoern approach and render the verdict, and he said that the verdict is guilty, and polled the jurors, and they each one said that ip deed it was their verdict. he said, again, he is going to be placed in prison without the possibility of parole and also he e would be remanded or he will remain in custody until he has to go off to prison. i want to turn now to the legal experts, mark geragos, cnn expert and analyst, and mark o'mara cnn defense analyst and criminal attorney and richard gabriel, the author of "acquittal" and attorney benjamin brafman and this is not a surprise, it is mark o'mara? >> no, it is not a surprise but you should have a note here that it is a day of sadness and not

just a loss of a american hero, but for criminal attorneys that somebody who is mentally ill, and like this defendant was, has no other alternative other than a life sentence, because of the minimum mandatory sentencing and you have to believe that there is something better we can do in a defendant who is acting with mental defendant to throw the life away even though he wasted his life or the life of two others. >> it took the jury two hours or an hour and a half to reach the decision. is that unusual mark geragos? >> in a case like this, no. i think that ben brafman who is my buddy sitting on the set with you was spot-on when he said in a case like this, if it is a quick verdict, you know sitit is a guilty, because no way that 12 people are going to be instantly going to go to gravitate to not

guilty by reason of insanity, because it is a relatively rare verdict for the defense to get, a not guilty by reason of insanity and in this case timing is everything and obvious obviously, coming on the heels of the academy awards and the oscars and then having the deliberations, and having the jury to go out, and if ta havehey have to go, they have to go all night night, and they figured two hours, and that is it. >> and as a matter of fact before the verdict was read mr. brafman wrote me a note here and he said, i never saw a criminal trial end with the absence of it without any facts in d dispute.. >> yes, the facts were not disputed. and the fact is was he insane, and if you commit a cold blooded

murd murder, you have to understand the law, and debate the law, and explain it, and that is come complicated, but if you say emotionally, he killed two men, and i don't buy this insanity and mark o'mara said something that i echo, there is a real tragedy here that three soldiers are actually dead here. two are actually dead and one is warehoused. two comes back heerroes, and two are killed and one is now gone, and that is is a real american tragedy. >> and the mark for bar here to get insanity if in texas is very high. >> yes, it is very high, and one of the highest standards, because it has to be based on the mental e defect, and you have to know it was not wrong, and in effect the pros kuecutor said, look, if we believe that he did not know right from wrong or did not know it was wrong, why run away? why kill the way he did?

why do everything that he did which suggested that he knew what he was doing, and do it right? it is difficult throughout the nation and more difficult in texas, and nowhere will you get many insanity defenses plead and much few erer granted. >> and for those who are tuning in, you will see eddie ray routh kill killed chris kyle and chad littlefield found guilty by a jury in texas, and that verdict is happening live on cnn, and t the reason we don't have a field here kimberly priest johnson, is because there is a victim impact statement going on from the widow of chris kyle taya kyle and this is very emotional for the jury here to reach this the decision, and it has been very emotional for them. >> and we have seen taya kyle be very emotional. and the defense had a very much

uphill battle here, and not just because they had an american hero and the best friend, a victim, but we had a drug and alcohol use issue, where routh had used the drugs and alcohol prior to the killings and those two things combined made it almost impossible for the defense to be successful here. >> and richard gabriel, talk about this jury with ten women on the jury and did it make a difference? >> well, ten women and two men, and what happens is that the chances of division are greatly reduced kwlochlt vu reduced. you have a lot of unanimity, and it is a town of 18,000 as well, and they probably knew each other or knew of each other, and that all contributed to the quickness of the verdict. >> how do you think that the

publicity played into it, and the fact that chris kyle is a hero not only there in texas, and imagine a super hero there in texas, but around the world. how much did that play into what the jurors there had? >> well it always played into it. and as mark and ben have played in the big cases, these are social verdicts, and the jurors are not dlibeliberating on the evidence alone, but police inning to, and knowing that the world is actually watching the verdict. so this is a verdict about chris kyle as it is about eddie ray routh, and the verdict about the veterans and the system. these verdicts carry an impact and as a result, the jury was aware when it was deliberating that we'd be discussing it right here now. >> and i want everyone on the panel to hold on, because we are going back to stephenville where

ed lavandera has been covering the trial since it started. and ed we have a guilty verdict can, and you are outside of the courthouse and i'm not sure about the reaction, but what do you know? >> well the victim statements have just started, and one of the people speaking is don littlefield, the father of chad littlefield. we were told that maybe one person would be doing the impact statement, but it has changed. it is just now unfolding, and we are listening, as soon we are able to get the details of what is said, and we will quickly pass them along to you as we get them don. >> and cnn's ed lavandera there, and i want to bring in the panel, but want to go back to ben brafman. did you have something? >> well, it is interesting to have the victim impact statements after the sentence has bneen imposed. usually, the victim impact statements are coming first to show the judge what he should sentence. >> well, this is the harshest

and it would not change. >> that is the ireony of the victim impact statement which is used to sway the court, and it is after the sentence is imposed and the only effect that it has is to give to a voice to the victims which is i guess appropriate in the eyes of the loved ones who survived and a platform. that is one of the questions that i think that you cogently asked, it is not a trial in the vacuum and the worst possibly scenario for a defendant to go to the trial, and this kid had that laboring aura the war hero, and the oscars of a movie that was hugely popular and the people who were hugely popular and then a man who said he used drugs, and then not a popular defense. >> and then you had the victim of the video and the family statements and on and on.

and mark i wanted to ask you when you said that three lives are lost here and even though eddie ray routh has the life, and the other two gentlemen did not have that option by the way, but should the jury have had another option here mark o'mara? >> well, ununfortunately they don't under most states under the maximum penalty, but it does take away the discretion away from the judges. and we trust the judges with the decisions of our lives, and so i don't know why we can't say to the judge that it may be as much as life, but we will give you some discretion, because i think that we might all agree in this case, if we can look at the sentence appropriate for what he did, as heinous as it is we might not come up with the life sep tens sentence but a long-term incarsation, but a long time with the mental health

condition, but i don't like to take the decision away from the judges without the sensitivity of what they go through. >> and in the case of the defendant changing dramgt cli from the time of the arrest, and it is like you don't recognize him as the same person. >> i foe tissed that as we were watching this evening awaiting the ver dishgts and watching the the show preceding this on anderson anderson's show and the difference and wondered if it impacted. kimberly, you were in court today for the closing, and the last testimony and the closing statements, and it was very powerful and as they showed some of the video, you could not help but notice how different he looked. >> that is true, but this jury, and remember that the prosecution's mental health experts went so far as to say that routh not only was not mentally ill, but that he faked the mental illness, so i am not

sure that the jury believes that he has this severe of a mental illness. of course, we don't know. but, there was a lot of evidence in the case, and that is what is so unusual, because we had so much evidence and we had evidence of during the crime, what happened after the crime, and in lots of conversations with the psychologists, and the investigators after. and remember that the issue, it is not whether routh was mentally ill or not, but it is whether he knew that what he did was wrong. and what the prosecution did very well in my opinion was to show all of the multiple facts that went to whether or not routh knew what he did was wrong, and over, and over, he said, i know what i did was wrong. >> and i am glad that you said that, because also mark geragos, the defense had one witness, the prosecution had

two, and one mental health expert and the prosecution had more than that and i the think two. >> yes, that too. >> and mark geragos? >> and well, if -- it is okay. to say this is an uphill battle is one of the great understatement, because the timing could not have been worse, and there is not a whole lot of sympathy if you will of the defendant other than the fact that he has given service to the country. when you look at the facts of it there was a text where kyle said at the time "this guy is straight the up nuts." part of the struggle in this case reich this hlike this is, look, you don't have to prove motive, but what is the motive if this guy is just sertcertifiable, and straight up nut, and certainly not for money, and certainly not a robbery, and not to collect on the insurance proceeds and he

was delusional. and unfortunately, what we have done in america is to criminalize the mentally ill in a lot of ways, and we ve made the jails and the prisons in the last 30 years become part of the mental institution, and i don't foe if it -- i don't know if it makes much sense. >> and that is why the mandatory sentence is not making sense. say that the mandatory sentence is spot-on, and say in 30 years he was re-examined by a team that said he is better and change and he is no longer a danger and we e will -- we will reassign him to an outpatient but that is the death penalty, because he is never going to be

getting out. and he has serious issue, and maybe not crazy, but you can be not insane and you could be nuts and when you are nuts, you should get treatment. >> eddie ray routh a former marine is now guilty of killing chris kyle and chad littlefield of 2013 at a gun range in texas. chris kyle had been working with him to try to help him to move back into society, and he had been depressed and moving into try to help him to make him belong and the conversation in the car as we have heard in the testimony from the courtroom between chris kyle and chad littlefield is that chris kyle sent a text to chad saying "he is straight up crazy." and in the interviews, routh said that part of the motivation for killing them is that they were not talking to him, and

they were not taking him seriously, and chad littlefield was not taking part of the shootings, and so he has not given a cohesive answer to why he killed the men. it is nonsensical about what happened but then saying that he knew na it was wrong immediately after what he did, but he had to do it and then fighting the demons. >> and listening to the voices. >> this is the video that you are look ging at him hours after the shoot manage the back of the police car after they chased him down. he went to taco bell and got two burritos and then went to get a truck from his sister's home and fled in it, and then she call d called the authorities and they tracked him down on the wild police chase that was there on the screen there, and smashing into several cars and the police entering the vehicle to take him into custody. at at the police station he

confessed to killing both men, and now you have it, the case taken to court, and two years late later, and two years and almost one month to the date february 2nd, that is when it would be two years to the date, two years and one month moto the date and now we are awaiting a press conference that should be taking place in a little bit outside of the courthouse. that is why we are looking at the pictures. and we have seen the movement of the courthouse, and people working to and fro, and right now, the victim impact statements are happening, and ed lavandera thought one, but possibly more and cnn's ed lavin dare can ra is lavendara as been covering the trial. and you said that the father of

chad littlefield was giving a statement, and were there more? >> we thought that taya kyle might speak, but that did not happen. it is unwinding, and incredibly emotionally as the relative unleashed and one saying that you took the lives of two heroes and two h men who tried to be a friend of you, and you are a disgrace and your inhumanity will put you in a world that you cannot escape, and that by itself speaks to the pain and the anguish of the familys of chris littlekyle and chad littlefield have endured. many of the relatives stayed inside of the courtroom when some of the most gruesome and difficult testimony was

displayed before this jury and it is all over tonight in stephenville, texas. >> and richard gabriel is a trial consultant, and you say, richard, that jurors have their own yardstick in terms of the mental illness and in coming to a verdict when koimts to mental illness. can you explain that to us? >> well what happens is that all of the experts in the world can get up on the witness stand and talk about the tests prove but the truth is that it is what they feel that insanity means for them. the people they have known, and the veterans they have known that have come home, and they have to ultimately compare one of the yardsticks they have is that, well, if anybody is entitled to ptsd chris kyle is but this guy never saw combat. and so they take the pieces, to say, what is insanity? jibbering insane and obviously, the mental health officials can

tell you that they are lucid and insane but everybody has a personal definition on the jury as to what they think is insane or not. >> and i want to alert the viewers that they are alerting the press as to what will be happening. he said that mrs. littlefield is going to be out in a moment, and making a statement, but not answering any questions. >> and who is he talking about there, ed lavandera? the mother? >> yes littlefield's mo etherthe ther. -- mo mother, and the person you saw there is a police officer who is a news liaison and crowd control and security here in the courthouse in stephenville, and that is an officer who has held helped us out with the logistics and helping us with the lay of

the land and how it will unfold. that is what he is saying that one of the family members will be coming out. i missed the top of it, but i believe he said that it is mrs. littlefield who will be coming out to speak briefly and not taking any questions. >> okay. so ed lavandera, standby. and now, mark o'mara, he said in the interview with the new yorker i did it i dont't know why i did it, but it tore my fing heart when i did it. did his own statement point to guilt? >> well, i have a case right now where where it points to a heinous crime, and when the police showed up and he had no idea what they were there for. and so if you were looking at the case and he was look ging at

littlefield, because he didn't like him, but he said in the statement that he had to kill kyle because he would have killed me, because of what i did, that is a rational thought, but then he decides to leave, and that is flight from the scene, and taking the car and driving on the right side of the road and so that is rational and if you can show it on both sides of the event, the killing, and then it is much more difficult to show that the insanity is a narrow slice. the one slice that you want to be be excuse foded for the criminal act, and so the statements in the "new yorker" and all of these things showed him to be much more sane than insane and mentally ill, absolutely but sane under the law. >> and kimberly you were in court today, and the last witness today for the prosecution described how the men were killed. which order, chad littlefield first, and then chris kyle -- no, chris kyle first and then

chad littlefield and what he did afterwards. >> right. and it is interesting hearing the victim statement from the littlefield statementfamily, because today was difficult for them today in court, because what the last witness testified to is that chris kyle died quickly, and he didn't see it coming and he didn't have a chance to do anything and the gunshot wounds were on one side of the body. and chad littlefield died excruciateing way, and after he shot kyle in the back he stalked around -- >> excuse me. this is chad littlefield's mother. >> i just want to say that we have waited two years for god to give us justice on behalf of our son, and god has proved to be faithful. we are so thrilled that we vhave

the verdict that we have tonight. thank you, guys for being so compassionate, and treating us with respect and, and honoring us. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. >> ed lavandera, that is judy littlefield, chad littlefield's mo mother? >> yes, you are right, don. >> and she is thanking everyone including the press and everyone who came out to the courtroom for treating them with kindness and tell us about the environment surrounding this proceeding and at that courthouse. >> elwell, the little field family, and it is interesting in a lot of this, because it is tonight in the closing arguments the prosecutors started out talking about how this has been referred to as the american sniper trial the, and how the prosecutors thought in many ways

this is unfair how chad littlefield was often forgotten, and i know that in our reporting we have always tried to be cognizant of that, and mentioned chad littlefield, but it was kyle who garnered most of the attention, but as taya kyle said it chad littlefield did not have to go to the gun range. he went out there to support his buddy chris kyle that day, and you can imagine that chad littlefield felt comepelled, and felt strongly about what his friend chris kyle was doing, and trying to help the veteran, and he went out there with him to be a second set of eyes aed on the be with his buddy that day.

i talked to one, a man named brandon webb who was a navy s.e.a.l. with chris kyle a and talked about that moment and a lot of the friends mention eded that moment driving out to the gun rapg, and to a lot of the friends it gives them chills when they think about what was going on in the car that day. >> and chad littlefield was a week or so from the 36th birthday and 35 at the time. and the family described him in the obituary saying that he was a regular guy and taking care of business, and happy spending time with his family and friends friends, and that is what they wrote in the obituary that was published in 2013. they called him the rock. saying that he was always there when they needed him and responsible, and dependable and there to console loved ones, and a workout buddy of chris kyle. as i am looking here at the feed. they are giving --

>> on behalf of shay and i, we en enjoyed working with you, and y'all made our job easy. >> nobody else is expected to come out to the podium? >> no no more statements to be made. no, they are all leaving. pleasure working with you, ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. safe travel home. >> so what you see is going to happen as you are getting to see what happens from the media's point of view is someone, an official who is a deputy there, and he thanked the press for working with them, and the only person who came in front of the cameras to speak was chad littlefield's mother, and he of course was killed with chris kyle and 35 years old when it a happened. as we were read inging and talking

about him again, he was chris kyle's workout buddy and what he did for the living, he worked as a logistics manager for crystal labs in desoto texas the, and born february 11th, 20 20 -- 1977 and graduated high school there and then moved to the area there after leaving the navy where he met chris kyle. and ed lavandera that is all we will hear officially of the people speaking to the press this evening at that particular location where you are. >> yes, it sounds liket this is it. the give you a sense, the shot where mrs. littlefield was speaking, that is in the street in front of the courthouse. throughout the entire process, there is intense security here throughout the testimony, and while the court was in session, it would be shutdown.

around the back side of the building where you see me, it is an area cordoned off where eddie ray routh was put in a tent-covered area where nobody could see him, and taya kyle and other family members escorted by the texas ranger authorities aed on ether law enforcements bringing them in and out, and we anticipated the same thing today. there was a great deal of concern about the security situation here surrounding the trial, but it has gone off without any problems. and so as you heard there, we do not expect to hear in anything at least on camera from taya kyle or any of chris kyle's relatives. >> and so, ed lavandera, from what you have and the producers have said that all of the broadcasts and the audio will be

broadcast after the sentencing, so we will be able to see and hear it? >> e yes it is my understanding that we can, if you have been following the coverage for the last couple of weeks, it is rather difficult, because we can show you the video, but not let you hear it by the judge's orders exact lyly the way eddie ray routh sounded in the moment he was taken into custody, and the put in the back of the police car and the 90-minute long confession tape. i am waiting word that we have it ready and we can start to broadcast it for you and you can see yourselves what this jury has spent time with looking at and did not agree with as they are returned a guilty verdict here tonight swiftly, and there is a great deal of evidence and material here to see, and it is material that was not seen before the trial. and eddie ray routh has been an enigma, and this is the first time that we were able to see

him, hear from him, and see the body language, and the way that everything unfolded. obviously, the jury here in stephenville texas, felt that despite all of that with his attorneys saying that he was psychotic that eddie ray routh was guilty of the murders, and not guilty by reason of insanity. >> and this is taya kyle in the trial. >> eventually we found each other in the hallway, and he just said you know he was inviting inviting or he asked chad to come along. he said that chad had come to the house and just to have an extra set of eyes. and then he and then said maybe know that this guy can be trusted 100% so that this the guy is comfortable saying what

he wants to say, and that we loved each other, and gave each other a hug and a kis like we always did, and when i left he was still in the driveway still trying to get more stuff in there and get going. >> now, did you talk by phone with chris sometime that afternoon? >> yes. >> what about time was that? >> i think that it was probably i think 2:00 or 3:00 maybe. >> some time that afternoon? >> yes. >> where was he when you called him? >> i believe he was at ralph creek. >> the widow of chris kyle testifying and very emotional there, and mark geragos, your heart can't help but break there or the family. mark o

mark o'mara, are you with us? >> yes, right here. >> and your heart can't help but break there for the family and the chad littlefield family. >> and it is funny, because even though she thanked god for the ver dishgts and for the victim's family, they don't get what they want d wanted. and i have kept if in touch with the vikctimvictims' familys, and their pain goes on forever. and a lot of people their live ss are satisfied with it right now, but they will be back to insatiable loss of having a loved one taken away from them the, and so for the littlefield family, and taya, it is going to be years and years. >> how do those moments play for the jury? >> i think very, very compellingly. and i am not questioning the verdict, and i just say that the verdict is what is the polar opposite of a jury

nullification, and it is a minor crime where you say, we will give them a pass. but this is a horrific crime where a likable hero was murder and the jury said that we are not buying into this, and we are not giving you pass. that is what you have here. >> and so stay tuned, everyone at home, because we have a verdict in the trial of the man who killed the subject of the movie "american sniper" and his friend. the emotional testimony being released and family members speaking out.

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this is cnn breaking news. it is 11:00 p.m. on the east coast, and 10:00 p.m. in texas, and the breaking news tonight, the verdict in the american sniper trial. eddie ray routh found guilty in the murders of chad littlefield and chris kyle. never before video of the trial is being released tonight, and much of it is very emotional, and we will have all of it por you. we will get to the panel, and also to cnn's ed lavandera who is live outside of the courthouse in