this is cnn breaking news. it is 11:00 p.m. on the east coast, and 10:00 p.m. in texas, and the breaking news tonight, the verdict in the american sniper trial. eddie ray routh found guilty in the murders of chad littlefield and chris kyle. never before video of the trial is being released tonight, and much of it is very emotional, and we will have all of it por you. we will get to the panel, and also to cnn's ed lavandera who is live outside of the courthouse in stephenville

texas. and ed, we heard more of the audio from the conversations that eddie ray routh had with the "new yorker" and what did they hear here today that led to the verdict? >> well all through the testimony if anyone was hoping to hear a clear motive of why he shot and killed chris kyle and chad littlefield, they didn't get one. there was a number of explanations of the two men who were trying to help them. he talked about one point where they were not talking to him while they were driving tout the gun range. he was mad that chris kyle decided to drive him through a fast food restaurant on the way to the gun range. he felt that he was being force fed. then he was mad apparently at chad littlefield, because at one point, he had decided to stop taking part in the shooting a eddie ray routh was mad at him and told him in the new yorker interview audio that was played in court that eddie ray routh

was mad that he was not participate manage the shooting at the range. so a series of bizarre reasons for what might have made eddie ray routh snap on that day, february 2nd, 2013. we want to play for you the verdict that was announced here a short while ago after 2 1/2 hours of deliberating and the jury here in stephenville, texas, returning with the verdict, and this is how it unfolded here in stephenville. >> we the jury find the defendant, eddie ray routh, guilty of the offense of capital murder as charged in the indictment. the verdict is signed by miss stafford as foreperson of the jury. you may be seated at this time. >> reporter: don, this is a swiftt verdict and they started to deliberatet at 6:30 central, and 7:30 eastern. we were told the after a long day of testimony they took a break to eat dinner before they sat down to deliberation, so dinner and deliberations took less than 2 1/2 hours, don.

>> thank you, ed. and now over to the panel, and kimberly priest johnson, defense attorney and former prosecutor and mark o'mara, and richard gabriel gabriel, also trial consultant, and author of "acquittal" and also here in the studio ben brafman. and now, he said that he had been suffering from a mental defect, and then he went on the say that he had been complaining in the police car about the mental state, and this is in the videotape he said that he had been so paranoid and schizophrenic all day, and he said, i don't know what to say, i didn't know what had been sane all day. and the jury was privy to all of the information, correct? >> correct. right. i think that those statements hurt eddie ray routh.

a person that is so mentally ill that he is legally insane they don't state that they are mentally insane, and they don't know that they are experiencing schizophrenia and paranoia a, and that is not typical behavior of a person who is experiencing true mental illness to the point of legal insanity and those comments in my opinion hurt eddie ray routh. >> an officer in the county jail where routh is going to be held mark o'mara said, i heard mr. routh said, i sot them because they wouldn't talk to me. i was just riding in the back seat of the truck, and nobody would talk to me. they were just taking me to the range so i shot them. i feel bad about it. they would not talk to me. i am sure they have forgiven me. >> well if you think of the sanity, there would be some

alternate universe and you don't know what is going on in this universe, because you are in the insane universe, and if you can think back i was thinking this or that or paranoid or i didn't know what i was doing, and so what you are doing is to connecting with the stage in your life where you are trying to say that he was insane, and that is going to hurt his position, because a true insane person says i don't know. i don't know where i was. i dont't know why. i don't remember leaving. that is true insanity, because not only do you not know what is wrong, but you don't know what you are doing, which in effect mean s that means that you don't know what is wrong. so those things all along the board and what he was doing before and after and the interviews and the comments like that, give insight that he knew what he was doing to begin with and also that what he was doing was wrong. >> and so richard gabriel, from the "new yorker" interview in 2013, a phone interview, and he

described being annoyed with kyle and littlefield after they head the 90-minute drive, and he did not trust the navy s.e.a.l. and his friend after the first meeting, and he told the reporter, that is how i if felt that day, routh said it is a smell in the air that morning, and he said the word feces, but i will not say that word and it is sweet cologne, and it is like smelling love and hate and they were giving me some love and some hate, and then he went on the talk about how they went on to get fast food and force feeding him and they felt as if they were not really his friends, but they were doing this possibly just automatically because they felt that they had to in some way and that annoyed him. >> and what is interesting is that in the very long statement, you are actually going to have two states of mind, and you will have this and the jurors could have easily said intent and

motive and they annoyed me and i was angry for the various things in the trip, and that can createt motive there, and a lot of the statements here and that could come out of the e ether,ther and represent someone with mental illness, and the legal defense has created a artificial defense in that there is a direct you don't know what you are doing, and the right from wrong, and no actual clinician treats schizophrenia like the legal system does. >> okay. i want to get back to this, ben, can the motive that he was dis disrespected be a motive here? >> it does not have to be a motive but we cannot find motive, it is a reason. it is not that barizarre, because the prisons are filled

throughout the country with people who feel they are disrespected there. is no motive that benefits them but at that moment they feel they were disrespected and if you dissect the testimony and reject rereject insanity and they force fed him, and ignored him at the range and one of them was not shooting, and at some point he snapped because he was not crazy, but disrespected. >> insulted. >> and i want the to go back to cnn's ed lavandera, and you have something that we have not seen before or heard at least? >> right. we have seen it, and we have been able to show it to you, but you have not been able to the hear it. and i think that when you hear it it will make all of the difference of the world. let me set the scene, because you are about to hear part of the 90-minute confession that eddie ray routh gave to a texas ranger detective just after he

was taken into custody, and hours after he had killed chris kyle and chad littlefield. you kcan listen to it now for the first time. don. >> do you know what you did was wrong, do you understand that? >> yes, sir. >> what do you think should happen?

ause of the -- >> you killed them because you thought it was wrong? >> [ bleep ]. >> and you knew that taking that truck was wrong? >> yes. >> and where did you go after that? >> are you asking me if i was sane? >> yes. >> yes. >> and i understand that it has been difficult for you, and i want to talk about what happened. you can start when you woke up today and what happened. >> well shgs i kept talking to chris

chris, and then every time i talked to another man named chris, and then i kept thinking that i was talking to the wolf to the ones this the sky. the ones in the sky are the ones that are the pigs. i had been eneen smelling it the whole time. i can smell the [ bleep ] the whole time. i can tell the difference of two kinds of pigs. i don't know how you can smell your [ bleep ], and i'm not trying to say bull pen[ bleep ], but you know what i mean? >> don, it is really hard to make out what he said there, but in portions of the audio, you

can can hear him making the references to the pigs that have been talked about, but the overall demeanor and you can take a lot away from it and that is what is indicative of most most of the tape that we saw. never any kind of the bizarre outbursts or anything like that. the way he spoke, and the way you heard him there, that is the way he talks throughout most of the confession tape. >> and as we move along there, we will get some captions there on the tape, so you kuns it, because it is important. my entire panel is going to be staying with us except for ben brafman who has to go. thank you, ben. and still to come more on the breaking news of eddie ray routh found guilty of the murders of chris kyle and chad littlefield. and we will have more on never before heard audio from the trial tonight.

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just want to say that we have waited two years for god to get justice for us on behalf of our son, and as always god has proved to be be faithful, and we are so thrilled that that we have the verdict that we have tonight. thank you, guys for be being so

compassionate, and treating us with respect and honoring us. thank you very much. >> you are hearing right there a mo ther's anguish. that is judy littlefield, chad littlefield's mother speaking out after the verdict had been rendered for the sentencing that eddie ray routh would spend the rest of his life in prison without the possibility of parole. we rare back with the breaking news, and that is eddie ray routh found guilty of the american sniper trial. are you surprised for the verdict? >> no. i am very relieved that the littlefields and the kyle familys can find peace and closure here for this. it has been drug out for a couple of years now, and it is a relief to me knowing that the

families can get some closure, and the people of texas have made what i believe is a good decision. >> and asking you about this, is this the appropriate sentence or the decision? >> yes, i think that the people of texas are very practical, and they made a decision from what i know the defense was trying to prove the insanity but did eddie know the difference of right and wrong, and i think that he did. and for the people of texas to make the decision and not give him patrol is the right decision. >> and nobody wins here, because you have two people who have died here and a veteran put away for life now. >> that is right. there is no good outcome to any of this other than the fact that the kyles and the littlefield familys can find some peace. and to me, that is a win. this is time to put it to bed

for both of the familys. >> let's talk about you, because i won e derderwonder, because you trained chris kyle, and does it bring back for you, and you think of the decision, and the verdicts and the sentencing appropriate, and does it bring it backb to you? >> well, it is appropriate, and i'm satisfied with the de sigscision that was made burk more important to me, is that i threw it done the other night that the governor of texas has the worst v.a. hospital in america under his watch, and to really honor my friend and teammate chris kyle i challenged the governor to really fix that v.a. system in texas. it is the worst system in texas. and to honor chris kyle my teammate and friend is to turn that v.a. system around in texas, and get it up to par. >> but what you are saying i

think that i am hearing you say is that eddie ray routh should have gotten better treatment here as well? >> yes, you have a situation of a very disturbed individual slipping through the cracks at the dallas v.a. which in 2004 the inspector general ranked the dallas v.a. as the worst v.a. pa silty in america, and that is sad. the proof is in the pudding, you have a individual like eddie ray routh that clearly exhibited signs of mental health disorder and able to kind of walk free and be set loose and put my friend chris at risk. >> everyone says that the veterans should be treated better with mental health when they come bakck. >> yes. >> how do you start that? how do you make it better? itt is clearly a situation to look at -- you have to differentiate between the post-traumatic stress and true

mental disorders. >> that is part of the trial. >> yes, and the v.a. kind of threw a blanket post-traumatic stress the on eddie ray routh, and this is a person who had true symptoms of schizophrenia, and true mental disorder, and you can't throw pills and medication at that situation, and you have to heldp the veterans to move on, and you not throw medication and pills at this situation. you want to get the guys healthy. >> and you think that he was suffering from the ptsd or the mental health issues or combination, because ptsd is a mental health disorder? >> well, it is a symptom of being exposed to combat stress but eddie ray routh was never exposed to serious combat.

he was an armor and support guy in a very safe situation. >> i have a short time left, but do you believe it is going to sigma sigma sigmatize people coming back from war or get them help? >> well, i hope it is going to get them help because that is something that my friend chris kyle felt strong about. and you can call a day in texas called the chris kyle day or you can fix the v.a. system in texas, and if the you want to honor my friend then fix the system. as much as he would appreciate the day named in his honor, and if you want to honor him, you fix that v.a. system in texas, a ndand that is the way to honor my friend. >> are you doing okay? >> i am. >> thank you. appreciate your service. >> tonight, eddie ray routh

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our breaking news here tonight. eddie ray routh found guilty of capital murder of shooting deaths of chris kyle and chad littlefield and he has been sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. i want to go to cnn's ed lavandera outside of the courthouse in stephenville. i understand that you is more audio tape that routh had with the "noshgew yorker" and you have those? >> e yes, it is the first time that we have been able to the play you the audio portion of the recordings, and we believe it is going to help the viewers, and we can now broadcast the audio, because now that the trial is over but now you will hear that eddie ray routh talking about why he shot chad littlefield and chris kyle.

>> why did you shoot them today? there were some shots fired, but how close were you? >> i was up close to them. i knew that if i did not take his soul, he was coming to take mine. >> and you can hear eddie ray routh there talking about how he had to take their souls before they took his, and the defense attorneys made reference to that throughout the trial that in that moment whatever happened eddie ray routh felt that chris kyle and chad littlefield were out to get him, and that is why they turned the dun dwsguns on the very people trying to help him. but the problem, don, is that there have been a variety of reasons that didn't make sense of what triggered it and made him carry it out. i also want to read to you, don, one of the quotes, and there is

don littlefield, chad littlefield's father spoke to eddie ray routh directly before leaving. you did not hear from him live when we brought the comments that his wife said, because it was powerful because in one of the tapes he said that he was not sure who chad littlefield was, and then he said, now you will have the rest of your miserable life to know who he was. his name was chad littlefield, and then he spelled it out for eddie ray routh. >> and thank you, ed lavinanderalavandera. we will be having newly released audio for you. and i want to bring back kimberly and mark o'mara and

mark. and what do you make of that? >> well he wanted to make sure that the evidence didn't get out, because he was afraid that it may get back to the jurors in other ways or back to the witnesses before they testified and so he wanted to control it, but now that the trial is over, it is no longer an issue, and so it is going to be out there, and i think that it should be out there, and we all need to look at that and see what happened in that trial. >> and as we heard from brandon webb as i heard from him, he had some issues and that he was dealing with the ptsd that is a mental issue, and kimberly learned that routh took a gun from the scene. is that significant because he was state of mind and obsessed

with the men and their possessions? >> the prosecution argued in the closing statement that routh took the american sniper gun as a trophy. we don't know why, and only eddie ray routh knows why he took that gun, but it is one of the many facts that the prosecution was able to go over in the closing argument about intent logic, and gainsagainst insanity for this defendant. >> and richard, do you think that i mean the appearance changed between in two years, a lot. he was very thin the and gaunt and appeared jittery as someone on drugs and i am just assuming that but looking at the appearance, and you look at him now in 2015, and he looked like a middle-aged salesman and did the appearance make a difference with the jury and hurt the

defense? sh. >> i think that it worked kwanst him this this case. the jurors are always looking at the defendant, and his appearance in trial as a representation of the state of mind, and if you looked at the before and after picture, before he is looking more unhinge and now with the suit and the glasses, he looks a little bit more upright, and jurors are looking for the consistency, and if it does not match, there it can go with the thing that he is maybe manufacturing this defense, so i think that it worked against him in this case. >> and mark you brought it up when we said that there are no winners here obviously, the familys of chad littlefield and chris kyle are suffering the most and have been over the year s years a and the family of eddie ray routh as well, but he committed the crime, and killed these two men, and three people lose here and i don't know if the jury could have had another possibility, but it speaks to the system when it comes to the veterans. >> well, it is difficult.

we have in our state, and it is coming around to other states as well, but we have mental health court, and people with diagnosed mental health illnesses are treated differently and uniquely, and we have veteran courts now in florida, and so what we have said is that when the veterans enter our system, we will treat them a certain way, and we will be sensitized when they come to the tab, and whether it is the ptsd or the other illness or the trauma of having serve and the honor give oen the veterans, and treat them with a level of respect, and this is the case and if there is a silver line aring, we can say, though he committed a crime, and needs to pay, maybe there is a way to look at this case differently, and i forgot

the man's name the navy s.e.a.l. -- >> brandon webb. >> i apologize mr. webb. and i though that my brother served and my father served in world war ii, and there are thousands and thousands of vet vans cominge veterans coming back and starting with vietnam and afghanistan, and they rare coming back, and they are heroes arkped it is getting to be taking hundreds of billions of dollars to do it, but if we can avoid these circumstances to treat the veterans the way they need to be treated, maybe this will be avoided today. >> and we have so much more to be released today. and we have breaking news tonight with the sentencing of eddie ray routh found guilty of

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texas, outside of the courthouse with ed lavandera, and we are getting the never before released audio. some of the video we have seen but never the audio before. and take us through this. >> this is what you will hear which is fascinating, which is a jail jailhouse phone conversation that eddie ray routh had with the "new yorker" magazine who had been writing a profile of eddie ray routh. and eddie ray routh call ss him, and the jail records it and you kcan hear it now for the first time. >> and so, as you are going after he called you are go ging after the rest of the way or what? >> well, we talked at whataburger, and got a bitet to eat, and then i thought that it was strange. i was not hungry. it was like sort of like forced at me and not forced fed me

but i did not ask them to eat. i pulled up and i said aren't you tired of eating this plp bull pen [ bleep ]bull pen[ bleep ] and all of this [ bleep ] that you are eat inging and all of the same old [ bleep ] that they were eating day after day. >> and don, also this the tape you will hear him talking about how he was annoyed at chris kyle and chad littlefield that they were shooting the pistols at the range, and he said oh you want to be shooting pistols like it is a dual and again, this is recorded four months after the killings in february. this is the summer of 2014. this next piece of the tape, and the legal analysts talking about

the tape say this is one of the pieces of evidence that sealed the deal for eddie ray routh in the prosecution making its case but it is the confession tape. we will take you back to that where the ip ves gat gator comes back to ask eddie ray routh if he could tell the victims' familys something, what would he tell them? >> >>. >> is there anything that you would like to say that you were sorry about what you havevhave done to the familys? what would you say to them if you had the opportunity to say to them? >> i would tell them that i was so sorry for what i had done. if i could i would have done it differently. >> and don, that demeanor as i pointed it out before, that is much of the demeanor throughout the confession tape. here is wearing the clothes in the gun range, and the

prosecutors said that the boots that you are seeing him wearing the right boot there that you are seeing it had the blood from chad littlefield on top of it. taking you right in there, and just hours after the killings on february 2nd, 2013. >> so much evidence here, and so much audio, and video that we will get to in the moments that we have left. ed lavandera, we will get back to you in the few moments with more breaking news. eddie ray routh found guilty of the american sniper murders. stay with us, everybody. we will be right back. what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do.

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i understand. the breaking news this evening the american sniper trial ends in guilty verdict of the murders of chris kyle and

chad littlefield. and joining us is the panel. kimberly what do you believe would be brought up on appeal? >> i believe that the defense had one mental health expert who was not permitted to testify. they had a hearing outside of the presence of the jury and the judge found out that he was not qualified to testify on an expert of what he wanted to testify about, and so that i expect that is something that would clearly have hurt the defense, and they had the burden of proof to prove that routh was insane. not the prosecution. but the prosecution had two mental health experts that were very credible and the defense had one. and so the jury would have said what could the defense only find one person who would only say that he thought that he was insane. so that is probably the number one thing that will be front and center of the appeal. you might also see the appeal on the basis that the jury was

allowed to watch the oscars and offering some prejudice, and it is a point to be raised, but not a valid point, but another point to make. >> and richard, this is not a death penalty case, right? it is a possibility of a life without parole, and did that make the deliberations easier? >> yes i believe it did, because even though it is the same standard of proof, it raises the standard at the death penl ti case, and if it is going to be decided on the standard they want it higher, and the level of scrutiny is much higher too, and made it much bet better for them to come to the panel. >> and so they want to have it come out now because of the verdict, and what audio do you have for us now, ed lavandera?

>> in is in the lancaster police department in eddie ray routh's hometown after he was taken into cust custody. if you been following the case you know there was a lot of talk about the pig people and how he thought that chad littlefield and chris kyle were pig people and half human and half pig. >> well i kept talking to chris, you know and every time i talked to one man named chris, and it was like talking to the wolf the one in the sky. the ones in the sky are the ones that i know fly. you know the true pigs. i have been smelling them the whole time you know.

[ bleep ]. i can smell [ bleep ] and pigs and i can tell the difference of the two kinds of pigs. i don't know how you can smell your [ bleep ] and i'm not trying to say that nobody [ bleep ] is stinking but it is stinking. >> and don, that talk of the making reference the pigs, and the pigs taking over the world is something that eddie ray routh would continue to talk about later as he was interviewed extensively by the medical experts in the case, and also one of the things that the prosecutors in the case that basically came after eddie ray routh in the case said that he was faking the seriously of the diagnosis and the psychosis. and this talk of the half pig, and hybrids was probably influenced by a "seinfeld"

episode that he had been watched in the jail in the last two year s years. and so many times the later talk they felt it was inspired by watching one particular episode where the character kramer is convinced that he saw a half pig half man running around a hospital. >> ed lavandera, thank you. we will be right back.

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we the jury find the defendant, eddie ray routh, guilty of the felony the offense of capital murd per as charged in the indictment, and that verdict is signed by miss stafford as foreperson of the jury. you may be seated at this time. >> breaking news tonight, guilty verdict in the american sniper trial, and eddie ray routh sentenced to life in prison for the murd pers of chris kyle and chad littlefield, and you heard the judge rendering the verdict. ed lavandera is live outside of the stephenville texas, courthouse and you are hearing

never before heard audio before. what do you v ed? >> one of the things that is interesting there is the guilty verdict being announced there, is no reaction from eddie ray routh, and that is consistent of what we have seen over the course of last two week ss, no emotion or reaction from eddie ray routh throughout the testimony. more often than not, he would take pages and pages and pages of notes of the testimony. and this next piece of the confession tapes is eddie ray routh talking about how he felt abandoned as a child. it is interesting because one of the things that the prosecutors hammered away is how there was excuse after excuse after excuse why eddie ray routh shot and killed chris kyle and chad littlefield. listen to that portionf. >> i have had abandonment issues and trust issues here, and i [ bleep ], and i have been having problems in the town since i growed up you know, since i was a boy.

i'm trying to fix what is wrong with [ bleep ]ing country right now. >> and those explanations fell on e deafdeaf ears for the jury tonight. the prosecutors hammered away of what they said were excuses for the cold and the calculated murders here. >> and ed lavandera, standby. i want to bring in kimberly priest and richard gabriel, and mark o'mara. and kimberly this text said we failed three veterans tonight, because of the veteran system here and how we treat veterans and the treatment they get once they return from war. do you believe that? >> i do. you know, the prosecution specifically said in the closing statement, the v.a. system is

not on trial here eddie ray routh is. they knew that they had to say that, because there was clearly an issue with the hospital releasing eddie ray routh before he was ready to be released. it is important also that in chris kyle and chad littlefield's deaths if something good can come out of the deaths it could be raising the awareness and that we need more assistance for the people coming back from war. we need more assistance for the familys. we need better medical treatment, and, you know, i think that the "american sniper u "moviesniper" movie is doing that and that is something positive that could come out of something so tragic. >> richard, i wish that i could get you in there, but we are at the end of the show, and thank you both for e helping to guide us through this, and thank you,

kimmer bli priest johnson and richard gabriel, and that is it for us tonight. and the cnn report, "no laughing matter" inside of the cosby allegations start right here on c cnnb n and remember right after that we will have more live coverage from atlanta. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ ♪ last fall, the legendary bill cosby was restaking his claim as an a-list super star at the age of 77. >> cosby was really looking at a career rejuvenation. >> 30 years after his nbc blockbuster, the network was cooking up another cosby sitcom. netflix had plans to stream a comedy special and a 500 page biography was in new york times best seller.