ine the catfish telling the story about the one that got away. jeanne moos, cnn. new york. >> 28% success rate. that's better than a real cat could do. that's one incredible fish. all right. thanks for joining us. be sure to dvr "outfront" to watch us anytime. anderson starts now. good evening. thank you very much for joining us. tonight, jurors in the "american sniper" trial tell us how they decided that a killer victim chris kyle called not criminally insane. we begin with three suspects and three words. the suspects three men all residents of brooklyn new york trying to join isis, two stopped as they were about to leave the country. the word plain and simple from new york police commissioner bill bratton, this is real he said. >> this is the concern about the lone wolf inspired to act without going to the media or concern of once they get, quiet skills and attempting to return

to the country. >> authorities nabbed one suspect this morning at new york's hannity airport. trying to fly to turkey and another arrested at home in brooklyn and a third man arrested in florida. all three allegedly talked about carrying out a variety of attacks in this country, one allegedly talked about assassinating the president. the latest from deborah feyerick outside of the federal courthouse and evan perez who first broke the story of arrest. deb, what's the latest? what do we know about these suspects and exactly what they're accused of? >> reporter: we can tell you two of the three here were at federal court today. the hearing delayed because one man asked for an uzbek translator that took a couple of hours to delay this hearing. the 19-year-old, he was picked up on the jetway. he was arrested as he tried to board the plane to turkey in order to get to syria. the third man, the money man, he was in florida. he owns a series of kiosks in

savannah philadelphia virginia beach. that's how he makes money, and fixing mobile phones. all three have been charged with conspireing to provide material support to terrorists. they wanted to jihad to syria but had back-up plans, aerndnderson. one reason the 19-year-old, his mom confiscated his passport fearing that's exactly what he wanted to do so he came up with a plan b according to court documents. he allegedly was going to join the military and information to isis. if that failed or was caught he would simply open fire on troops. he also had a plan according to the court documents to buy an ak-47 and go out and shoot police officers as well as fbi agents. the 24-year-old, he was really sort of focused on getting to syria but he said if not, then he was going to be in touch with isis through a web site and once they gave him the go ahead, he was going to attempt to shoot president obama. they were both in court. they were rather small, anderson. no taller than 5'4".

both wearing hoodies. the 19-year-old had a pair of black and red leather high tops with the laces removed. both understood that the charges against them are extremely serious, anderson. >> and the government sources that you're talked to they are describing this as something they have not seen before. how is it the dual plans? >> reporter: i think this represents an elevation of what they believe was a real threat and what you hear from law enforcement, from what we've heard in the past couple of years, especially with regard to isis, was this concern about americans traveling over there, getting, you know, some kind of know-how about fighting and bringing it back here. in this case what they're talking about is a real sell. if you leave the court documents, a real act of sell which had plans. again, there were plan bs, but plans to do something here and that was something they haven't seen before. and also something different here we've seen a lot of these cases come from around the

country. i talked to prosecutors recently about exactly why we hadn't seen anything out of new york city, the biggest city in the country and now we've seen that. that's something alarming to them because they know that once you see it in new york there could be other types of sells around the country. >> deb, do we know much about how law enforcement got on to these three suspects and do they feel they got everybody involved in this? >> reporter: well anderson they do feel they got everybody involved in this. one reason the 24-year-old who worked at a gyro king was caught on a web site talking about some of the things he wanted to do including joining isis and so through him, the fbi was able to get to others to this 19-year-old, also to the money man and then they sent in a confidential informant who was crucial in helping the fbi make this case against the three men. but also it was the confidential informant who was able to help the 19-year-old get

a new passport and he told him that he had to go down to the immigration office in manhattan and get photographed and fingerprinted and that's exactly what the 19-year-old did. he said he felt joyful his soul felt happy. >> deborah feyerick, evan perez, thank you very much. homeland security advisor on the cia external advisory boards and former fbi directive assistant shawn henry. one, they wanted to go to isis but had plan b and plan c in some cases. >> remember in the case of the ottawa bad guy, he couldn't leave the country. he couldn't leave canada because the authorities stopped him. and so this is we have to remember this is a learning organization. these kbieguys watch the news understand what the contingencies are. so they're planning for it very

concerning. look. the fbi, i don't know it's fair to say they identified everybody in this ring. deb was saying that they had. they certainly identified the immediate ring through the informant but they took this down not because they identified the complete word but the guy at the airport ready to get on the plane and if they didn't arrest him then they wouldn't have had that option so they took it down because they had to. it's not clear to me that they actually had identified the entire network. >> so you think that a group like isis actually prefers that people like these guys would actually stay in the united states? they're actually more valuable to them here? >> i think it's certainly something we need to look at. that's one of the things they look at. those inspired those are looking to cause harm here. should they go back over to syria or back to the middle east, they can inspire others. they're going to be trained. we may lose visibility on them. they come back through europe or

elsewhere to get back into the united states. but if they can't get out, is there an opportunity for them to do something here to raise their profile and have an impact? >> shawn, from a law enforcement standpoint you know, there are people who are very skeptical when they hear about a case like this and hear wait a confidential informant told this guy how to go down and get a passport. how smart can this guy have been if he didn't know how to go down and get himself a passport is there an element set up or a path? from a law enforcement standpoint how do you defend that? >> when you've got people making these type of statements talking about the jihadi cause, talking about traveling over supporting isis talking about hurting americans, killing the president, you've got to follow all these leads to their logical conclusion. in a case like this it's very often difficult to prosecute these cases. there's a balance, a freedom of speech in what somebody says and aspirational of what is real. the fbi about introducing confidential informant is looking to get overt acts to

demonstrate he was intending to go over. he wanted to cause harm. so that's a balance part of the investigation. you can't turn the head. you've got to follow these to their logical conclusion to make sure you keep americans safe. >> if you don't do that if you don't go down the road with them and do something, god forbid something happens, you get blamed for not having fully investigated. >> i mean the fbi is looking to collect evidence of their intentions. they were very clear on what their intentions were. they had to provide the capability to record that activity so it was very clear that it was not aspirational. it was not just puffer ri. it was somebody who wanted to take acts to harm americans. >> anderson i'll tell you. the track record of the fbi in this sort of an incident is very good. they understand very well they work with prosecutors. they understand where the line is. so their ability to defend these cases in these investigations is

virtually unparalleled. right? they haven't gotten these things reversed because they understand well not to overlead the individual. >> i want to play something the fbi director said today. >> i have home grown violent extremism investigations in every single state. until a few weeks ago, it was 49 states. alaska had none. i couldn't quite figure out but alaska has now joined the group. so we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states. >> it's really interesting i think a lot of people to hear that. because you don't, as much as we know of what we've seen happen around the world and in the united states with the number of incidents, it's shocking to hear every state of the union, there are investigations going on. >> what he didn't say in every state of the union there's one. in certain communities like new york there's many more than one. the fbi's investigative resources are incredibly stretched, so it's important in

places like new york. but they're working with the local police department to develop sources, to develop leads and to do surveillance and follow them. and so this is a real problem. let's remember, isis said they want to bring their brand of terrorism here to the united states. you've got to take it seriously when the fbi is. >> fran townsend shawn henry. thank you. a verdict that caught everybody by surprise at least the quickness of it after deliberating for 2.5 hours, the jury in the "american sniper" trial returned a guilty verdict. what they saw to help them make up their minds. i talked to two of the jurors. you'll hear from them in a moment. were you surprised how quick it was, ultimately about three hours, i think. >> i wasn't. because, in my heart, no. i wasn't. i wasn't surprised. when i heard all the other jurors speak their piece, i was not surprised.

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in a moment, you'll hear the jurors about how they reached the verdict that eddie ray routh was guilty in the killings of

chris kyle and chad littlefield. for the first time we can see and hear what transpired in the room where mr. routh was first interrogated. ed lavandera has all of that. >> reporter: this is eddie ray routh confessing to the murders wearing the clothes he wore to the country side country range that day. chad littlefield's blood still staining his boots. >> what happened out there today other than shooting sports? >> i was reasonable and fair with them boys. i can't just keep eating my soul up about this. you know you can't just keep letting people eat your soul up for free. you know. >> it's not what it's about. it's about having a soul that you have to you for yourself and there are. you >> you talk to your sister today. >> i told her i had to kill men today. it wasn't a want to.

i had to a need to. >> reporter: a jury heard from chris kyle's wife taya. >> who were you married to prior to february 2nd 2013? >> chris kyle. i'm sorry. i'm not nervous. i'm just emotional. >> reporter: emotional as she remembered the last time she saw her husband. >> chad had an extra set of eyes and then i said maybe, make sure that this guy knows that chad can be trusted 100% so that he's comfortable saying whatever. he said no yeah. i definitely will. and then that we loved each other, a kiss and hug like we always did. >> reporter: later, called kyle and said something was wrong. >> something at left creek, it's beautiful. he feels good about helping somebody usually making their

day and he knows it. which is what, you know happened earlier. he thought that the guy sounded really excited to go and so he thought he was doing a good thing. >> he sounded irritated when you talked to him that afternoon? >> it was short. not like interrupting a good time like i wish i could say more but i'm not going to because there are people around. >> reporter: that was the last time they would ever speak. she texted him, are you okay? i'm getting worried. chris kyle never responded. a few hours later, eddie ray routh would be surrounded by police in the truck. and in the police interrogation tape routh is questioned by texas ranger, danny briley. [ inaudible ]

[ inaudible ] she reacted publicly to the verdict? >> reporter: we haven't heard any public reaction. in fact she wasn't even in the courtroom when the verdict was read last night, anderson. as defense attorneys were giving their closing arguments toward the end of that taya kyle got up and left the courtroom after having sat through two weeks of

testimony. obviously, excruciating for her. sounds like she couldn't be in that courtroom anymore. she got up and left. wasn't even around for the verdict, anderson. >> incredible. thank you, ed lavandera, very much. two members of the jury i spoke with stacey matthews and heidi correa earlier tonight. so heidi, i know this case hinged on whether or not the shooter knew he was doing right from wrong. you as a jury decided he did know right from wrong. i'm wondering, what convinced you of that? >> reporter: it was just kind of an overall, it was you get so much information in the matter of, you know the 10 or 11 days of the trial. you hear one side and then the other. it was the preponderance of the evidence that he admitted he knew it was wrong, and the one thing for me everybody has their own hinge thing that convinced them but for me it was when he admitted that when he was riding in the back of the

truck on the way to the shooting range that he said he considered killing them then. but he knew if he did that that the truck would wreck and he would get hurt. the other thing was the chad and kyle thing. he shot chad which was a murder. it wasn't the american sniper but it was a human life. and he knew if he didn't shoot chris, he would kill him. >> did you know he suffered from some mental ill ness? >> you think in the back maybe he was crazy. the dude was definitely not right. he definitely was an unhinged person but at the same time every time he got in trouble for something, which was violent behavior and got, the police were called he was taken, he claimed ptsd and said i'm a

veteran and they took him to the v.a. instead of taking him to the police and arresting him. and every time he went to the v.a. he was tested positive for drugs and alcohol. and so they could not specify what was causing his psychosis and they told him over and over again, until we can diagnose you. you have to get off the drugs and alcohol. when we get the charge as a jury the defense had to prove beyond a preponderance of reason or preponderance of the evidence 51-49 is all it had to be, the defense never proved that beyond the preponderance of the evidence he was clinically insane. >> the defense psychiatrist testified that he had paranoid schizophrenia. the prosecution rebutted that with their own experts. >> yeah i did. and i'm not saying any of the

psychiatrists were wrong in their diagnosis. they probably felt like they were as correct as they could be given what they saw of mr. routh when they interviewed him. but the bottom line is there are all levels of mental illness. his mental illness was not severe enough that he did not know what he was doing was wrong. >> he was released from a v.a. hospital just shortly before he ended up killing chris kyle and his mom talked about that. i think it was just a week before the shootings, he was released. his mom talked about that trying to keep him inside the hospital because she said he wasn't ready to be released. i want to play that for our viewers what she said on the stand. >> did you ever plead with the dallas v.a. not to release him? >> absolutely. they said to pick him up.

they kept him on thursday. because i objected and said he's not ready. >> a long period of time didn't you? >> yes, i did. >> and in fact the u.s. government not release your son and they still released him? >> yes, sir. >> what impact did the statement the mom made on you? the fact the son was hospitalized pleaded with the v.a. not to release him. did they weigh in your thinking at all or does it come back to the never really understanding or getting a sense of what his actual psychiatric diagnosis was? >> well i think the mom was pleading because she knew every time he would stay for the v.a. a certain amount of days he was free of the drugs and alcohol and got out, he was normal for a couple of days. she just didn't want him released because when he was out, he would go back to old behavior. >> the conversation covered a lot of ground. when we continue we'll have more of their impressions of the

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guilty verdict against "american sniper" killer eddie ray routh. 24 years old. a much better idea tonight of what jurors saw and heard and how they decided the case. more of my conversation with juror stacey matthews and heidi carilla. she described what she saw the last time she saw chris kyle alive. >> he said he was inviting chad to come along. >> you said chad had come to the house? >> chad had come to the house. had an extra set of eyes. and then he maybe make sure this guy knows that chad can be trusted 100% so that he's comfortable saying whatever he

wants. he said oh yeah. no. i definitely will. and then that we loved each other and gave each other a kiss and hug like we always did. >> you know, high die,eidiheidi, trials are such personal things. particularly for jury members. what went through your mind when you heard taya saying that? >> sorrow. sorrow for her. and her family. how you can't sit there and not feel sorrow for her, and empathy, but that is not what made our decision. >> there's a lot of sad things that happen in the world and you can't base it just on the emotional fact. we were given the facts. we were given evidence. the charge was to consider the facts and evidence only no emotion, no outside influences and your charge is the state does not have to prove their case. he already admitted to the

murder. the state's case was already done. he committed the murder. it was on the defense's burden to prove a preponderance of the evidence that he did not know what he did was wrong. there was three cons he had a mental defect at the time of the murder at the time of the conduct, had a mental defect or disease, and he did not know what he was doing was wrong and they couldn't prove it. i mean even if he was a little bit wacko, they could not prove he did not know what he was doing was wrong at the time of the murders. >> we did not take our decision lightly. >> there were a lot of tears. >> there were a lot of tears in that deliberation room. we felt very we felt a lot of sympathy for eddie. we felt sympathy for the victims. and for his family. we took it very seriously.

>> when you got into that jury room as you said hadn't been able to talk about it. suddenly all have ideas in your head and able to talk about it was it apparent right away that everybody's on the same page here in terms of what they now believe or was it, you know sometimes -- >> it was just like everybody was -- we passed the kleenex box. >> passing a stick to talk. >> all 12 jurors got to talk and say their piece without interruption. and then we got to question and discuss. it took us you know we had to really weigh the evidence and make sure we believed what we were doing was right. >> and then we took a vote. >> that was it. >> that was it. >> heidi and stacey thank you so much. >> thank you.

>> so having heard all of that i want to bring in our panel. mark geragos and danny cevallos and host of dr. drew on call. one of the problems was the alcohol abuse and something the jury picked up on. >> yeah i'm actually fascinated. the jury in this case seems to have hit on all the issues. they would have been read an instruction that was essentially this. voluntary intoxication is not a defense to any crime in texas. so every shred of evidence that was evidence of intoxication or drug use negated that insanity defense. that's why the prosecution pushed so hard to get that in and the defense was left in an awkward position of trying to separate the two, saying yes, he used drugs but that was separate and distinct from his mental disease that he labored under. which is interesting because i'm sure as dr. drew will tell us, it's almost impossible to

separate in the case of a dual diagnosis a mental illness with a drug addiction or abuse. >> from what i understand about mental illness, a lot of people mask it with drug abuse. a lot of people who are suffering from mental illness will turn to drugs to kind of self-medicate, isn't that right? >> right, but they are making things worse. it does not make things better. it may feel better in the moment and it's common you're right. and i'm amazed as danny was these women have picked up very astutely connecting the dots from the volitional use, unwillingness to get treatment for condition and uncontrolled psychotic episodes and he wouldn't stop the drugs and alcohol long enough. there was a direct line from the drug use to psychosis and the psychosis he had was almost a delirium. they could have made more of that and say he didn't know what he was doing but he showed remorse, thought of killing them

in the car. there were subtle points they picked up further damning evidence. >> life in prison without parole is the only option the judge had after the guilty verdict. do you believe it's the right outcome? >> well you know i get that question today a lot and i've answered it's the legal outcome. it's what the judge had to do. is it the right outcome? i don't think so. i don't think you should ever in a situation like this when you've got mental illness and i've said other times anderson discussing with you, we turned our jails and prisons into mental institutions which is awful, and i think at a certain point, we have to better understand what mental illness is and how to handle mental illness, because clearly, law enforcement should not be dealing with mental illness. >> dr. drew, do you believe he could know right from wrong even if he was mentally ill? >> yes, there is such a thing but there's two points. he resisted treatment. the times to do something about

this was before it required the legal system to step in. everybody needs to learn a lesson from this. it is critical people understand that the time to get help is before you hurt somebody or somebody else. the other issue is his, as mark was saying we don't want the jails being the mental institutellness last resort, but i heard he harmed animals as a kid. conduct disorder not able to empathize with other people and cause to do things heinous above and beyond his mental illness made worth by mental illness but separate from it. >> danny, it's interesting. we're accustomed to innocent until proven guilty but it was on the defense. >> it's still innocent until proven guilty but the prosecution was required to prove each and every element of the crime of murder. but the defendant was raising what we call an affirmative defense. essentially said yeah all that stuff is true but i had

additional facts that should excuse me. court said that's proper to put the burden in texas on the defendant to prove in other states they have to disprove insanity the prosecution downside. but in texas, a preponderance of the evidence, which is commonly thought of as 51% of the evidence whatever that means, is up to each individual jury. you heard them they got the standard right, but it is proper and allowed. that's what texas applies. other states use different tests. but when it comes to affirm the defense, we can hold the defendant to a burden to prove that affirmative defense. >> mark it's interesting because a lot of people are asking i know you were wondering about this what kind of impact with the hollywood effect would have on this the movie of chris kyle's life the trial coinciding with the oscars at the oscars. as it turns out, one or two jurors actually seen the film and they said to them it was completely separate from their commitment to the trial. >> right. that's, they're always going to tell you that. jurors will rarely say, hey, i

was influenced by outside items. i will tell you one other thing. one other observation i make and maybe echoes both danny and drew is they're smart and they take this stuff seriously and always i'm always refreshed whatever goes on that jurors take it seriously. once they take the oath next to military service, people take this stuff seriously. >> that was one of the things heidi said. we were talking about this off camera. she was saying she would go back and forth. the prosecution would argue with something and say, i can see that point. the defense would argue and say, i can see that point as well. and i think that's the mark of a good juror. somebody with an open mind and is listening to both prosecution and defense and ultimately finally make up their own mind. >> exactly right. >> mark geragos, danny cevallos dr. drew. thank you. ahead, a star not shy about jet setting lifestyle but who

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states of emergency. farther north, arctic blast frozen the great lakes. nearly completely covered by ice and the coast guard is struggling to keep shipping lanes open. gary tuchman is there on an ice cutter. where are you now, what are you seeing? >> reporter: this is the coast guard cutter holly hawk anderson in the middle of lake huron, one of the five great lakes in the city of port huron, michigan a hundred miles northeast of detroit and this is lake huron. it's impossible to believe a few months from now, people will be jumping in this water and water skiing. right now, it feels like we're on a glacier. we're crunching the ice as we go. this is a coast guard mission. nine coast guard ice breakers like this one and their mission every year is to clear the shipping channels in the five great lakes. they do it with a canadian coast guard, four of the great lakes are shared by canada and the united states. the only one entirely the united states is lake michigan. right now we're on a 20 hour mission to go to two canadian

commercial vessels trapped by ice in the northern part of lake huron. we're heading there, be there by sunrise tomorrow. the idea to clear the ice so they can continue back to their home port in ontario. they're not in peril or danger but just can't go anymore. that's typically what happens in the winter. anderson, last year at this time very cold winter 70% of the great lakes ice surface was frozen. right now, same week 85% of the five great lakes frozen just like lake huron where we're standing right now. >> and how long is a mission like this? >> reporter: this particular mission is going to be about 20 hours. we expect to arrive tomorrow morning and then head back with the canadian vessels, but sometimes there are 45 coast guards men and women on this ship and it's incredible the sights and the sounds. it almost sounds like an earthquake anderson when you go over the ice. this ice is about a foot deep and about ten inches of snow on top of the ice, but most missions they go on could be between five and nine days where

they sleep in their bunks aboard the ship and stay on the great lakes and then go home for a day and go out for another mission. >> long day. gary tuchman, thanks very much. more happening. amara walker with a 360 bulletin. >> reporter: the state of jody arias at the hand of jury at a sentencing trial. to decide whether she should die or get life in prison for killing her boyfriend. the jury that convicted her in 2013 deadlock over her punishment. the source close to the family of bobbi kristina brown took her off medications but put back on because she began having seizures. brown in a medically induced coma after being found face down in her bathtub nearly a month ago. in ocean city new jersey a gas explosion captured on a police dash cam. one home was completely destroyed in tuesday's blast. 15 people were injured. many of them workers from a national gas company who were investigating the leak and take a look at this. all that remains now of the

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news from the top of the broadcast, three men charged tonight attempting to aid isis. jason carroll tonight is outside the apartment building where two of the suspects lived. i know you spoke with the travel agent who actually booked the flight for one of the three men. >> reporter: right, that was for 19-year-old akhror. he wanted to buy a round-trip ticket to istanbul to cost $900. he didn't have that much money. the travel ago offered a different option. said if you make a stop in kiev i can get you on for $579. that's what he did. i have a copy of the itinerary here the travel agent gave me. according to the travel plans, he was supposed to fly wednesday, today, just after midnight on ukraine international airlines flight 0232. obviously, anderson he never made that flight. that travel agent also telling me saying how shaken he was.

he actually said my hands are still shaking knowing that i spoke and dealt with someone accused of such a terrible crime. >> you were also speaking to one of the guy's landlords. >> reporter: right. actually two of the suspects. both of the suspects which appeared in court actually lived in the building here behind me. spoke to the landlord late in the afternoon, said nothing out of the ordinary. said they paid the rent on time. one thing he did say, the younger suspect, the 19-year-old said he was about to take a long vacation. anderson? >> some vacation. jason carroll, thank you very much. just incredible story. obviously, there's a lot more that police try to learn about those three men and exactly what their plans were. they believe they were operating some sort of a cell. it's not clear if they believe they got everybody associated with this group and no doubt, we'll be learning a lot more in the coming days about exactly

what law enforcement say they have on these three that warranted these arrests. that does it for us. thank you very much for watching and anthony bourdain parts unknown starts right now. ver, nobody in libya was loud. in 2011 what was previously unthinkable happened. the libyan people rose up and fought for their freechl.dom. >> heavy battle in the libyan capital. >> they fought like