verify. sometimes they say they knew the name but they didn't. now they're naming him. that should be helpful to the investigation. >> this has been one of the biggest mysteries about isis and helping to crack their code. everyone thought he had a british accent that's been confirmed. they believe he is from west london where he grew up. he was flown to british security services again his real name mohammed mwazzi he is the one in the execution videos, he is believed to be assassinating and beheading the american journalists, as well as the aid workers, as well as all the gruesome videos we've seen. >> it plays both ways, on one hand they know his name and on the other hand they show how difficult it is to find people when you know their name. let's take it back here to new york city. the site of yet another clear and present terror threat. three brooklyn residents taken into custody, charged with conspiring to travel to syria and join isis, they were

threatening to carry out attacks over there and in the u.s., and that wasn't the whole plan. >> two suspects threatened to plant a bomb on new york's coney eye and and to kill president obama and wait until you hear in a few moments how authorities uncovered their plot. but this morning law enforcement across the country on high alert for other violent extremists we have this story covered from every angle, beginning with will ripley in brooklyn, new york. >> we've been working to learn more about the two younger suspects arrested here in brooklyn including a 19-year-old who lived in this building behind me. he paid just $571 to get a ticket to try to fly over try to join isis a plot that was only foiled by the federal authorities because of the fact that these two young men were so careless. >> the initial actions were effectively to go to syria. >> this morning two men intent on waging war with isis according to the february are

in custody in new york. a third accomplice arrested in florida. at least one of the alleged aspiring terrorists lived in this brooklyn new york apartment complex. the building's superintendant said they didn't seem suspicious. >> federal prosecutors say 24-year-old and his 19-year-old friend planned to fly from new york to turkey and cross into syria to join isis. the team's attorney says the fbi is rushing to prosecute. >> this is all information that is delivered to the fbi from a confidential informant that the government says in their own complaint they can't rely on the credibility of. >> the third brooklyn man, a 30-year-old business own frer uzbekistan allegedly funded some of the efforts. the men had a secondary plan if they were unable to reach syria. >> if they were unable to go they would seek to acquire weapons here and guns and

machine guns and seek to attack very specifically police officers. >> according to documents, jeraboyev tried to make contact with the terror group in a chat room online. saying to shoot obama and get shot ourselves, will it do? that will strike fear in the hearts of infidels. that brought fbi agents to his front door. where the suspect admitted woe harm president barack obama, but did not have the means to do so and said if isis ordered him to he would plant a bomb on coney island new york city. isis' online propaganda a growing threat to the u.s. the state department says they're combatting around 90,000 tweets a day. this as the fbi says there are investigations into home-grown violent extremists in all 50 states. >> this morning, the u.s. government believes at least 150 americans have left this country to join isis. they believe they stopped three

others from doing the same thing. but again we do need to point out the attorney for the 19-year-old suspect says these are just allegations and an indictment for the three men has yet to be filed. >> that's not unusual. the indictments can grow over time. we'll see how they build this case thank you for the reporting. let us know what else you find out about this. what we just learned about the true identity of jihadi john and that that was known and that authorities were in contact with this young londoner when he was still there, when he was getting his degree in computer science, yet they couldn't stop him from going to syria. show house difficult it is even with the clumsiness we just saw with these guys in brooklyn. let's bring in evan perez to discuss this investigation, because it speaks to what we're dealing with with jihadi john evan and how difficult it is these cases are to make. let's start with the lynchpin of the arrest of the terror investor what is that?

>> this represents a big change in what we've seen in these types of cases, according to this current complaint by the fbi, we have a real network here. we have an investor essentially who's financing these, what basically the two men, who are going to go fight in syria. if they can't do that they're planning to attack here in this country. the back-up plans they had, which is to perhaps assassinate the president or kill fbi agents was more aspirational. this is something the fbi has seen before and they expect that you know it's not very difficult to go from aspirational to actually carrying this thing out. one of these guys as he was boarding the plane, ended up not being prepared for his flight. because he didn't actually have a visa to get into turkey. it shows you that this plan was not very well thought out. but thank goodness the fbi was watching these guys and was able to move quickly. back to you. >> it shows that even when

they're watching people that doesn't mean necessarily they can make a case whenever they want and that's how you see a guy like who they're now identifying as mohammed emwazi jihadi john from being surveilled in the uk to being the face of isis. we want to bring in tom fuentes, our cnn lawn enforcement analyst and daveed gartenstein-ross senior fellow for the defense of democracies, thanks for being here. tom, lent me start with you. let's talk about what we know now about jihadi john. this seems as though it's a big investigative coup, that investigators have figured out he's mohammed emwazi growing up in west london. how would they have gone about piecing together his identity? >> i think they were able to find people in london that knew him. knew of his travel there. and his intention to join isis

and eventually revealed that to the authorities. >> daveed here are some things we know. the bbc and the "washington post" are reporting his real identity they've done the background research into what exactly he is. he is a brit, he is allegedly from a well-to-do family. he grew up in west london he graduated from college, he graduated with a degree if computer programming. does this fit the mold of what we think about isis fighters? or does it break the mold? >> there's various molds. i wouldn't say that you have a single demographic. and you know the information that's coming out about these guys has been only a fraction of the whole. if you look at the foreign fighters who have gone over there's over 20,000 foreign fighters about 4,000 of them are from western countries, 16,000 are from the arab world. and the amount of biographical information we have is just a fraction of that. in terms of previous jihadi

profiles this does fit the mold. terrorist groups tend to be comprised of people who are of higher socioeconomic status than the norm. the ira was an exception, they were composed of people of lower socioeconomic status. but in general terrorism rather than insurgency tends to be a profession of the elites. >> tom, until this moment he had been called jihadi john. because no one knew his identity. the first time that he came to be seen in the public view was during james foley's execution and beheading. since then this same man with the same build with the same accent was seen in other gruesome beheading videos how significant is it that authorities now know his identity? >> well significant in terms of being able to identify other people that may be you know his friends or classmates other individuals that know him and may be inspired by him to go over and do the same thing.

i think that that's probably how they caught up with him and identified him is through his network of friends back in london. and people that he may have stayed in communication with or thought he was being clever enough as a computer programmer to be able to to have discreet communications with. that eventually gave him up. i think it's very important to identify who else might be involved with him. >> daveed this is breaking news so i'm just reading some of these details along with you at this moment. so he was not born in london he was perhaps raised there and lived in west london. however, he's kuwaiti born. niece his mid 20s. he appears to have left little trail of social media online. those who knew him say he was polite. he had penchant for wearing stylish clothes. he had a beard and was mindful of making eye contact with women. what does all that tell you, daveed? >> there's a few different things. the lack of a social media trail

indicates that he may have radicalized quite a bit earlier. oftentimes when someone is radicalizing fairly close to the time of trying to go over to syria or carry out a terrorist attack they have a social media trail where you can see development of their thoughts that's been one of the very interesting things about recent terrorist cases. ten years ago, say, when i was studying these issues it was really the exception when someone would have a trail like that sometimes they would have a blog. but now almost everyone has a social media trail. a second thing that's interesting about that look there's a debate that's been reopened by graham wood's article in the "atlantic" about do isis guys really believe in the religious ideas. there's some indications that religiousness was important to him. but think we'll learn more as information trickles out. this is breaking now and we're starting to get just the first details. i think we'll have a more

comprehensive boig comprehensive biographical sketch by tomorrow. >> courtesy of the "washington post" that's done this reporting, they spoke to friends of his. the friends, who spoke on condition of anonymity believe that emwazi started to radicalize after a planned safari in tanzania and following his graduation from the university of westminster. tanzania that's not a place we think of as a hotbed is it? >> absolutely. al qaeda has been up and down africa for more than a decade. we had the u.s. embassy bombings in august of 1998 and the fbi sent several hundred agents to east africa. that investigation went from somalia down to south africa. so so the u.s. embassy being one of the places bombed in tanzania. >> let's switch to the other breaking news that the three suspects were arrested in

brooklyn. as they were trying to join isis. these guys are also fascinating, kazakhstan uzbekistan living and working in brooklyn? tell us more that you've learned about this investigation here at home. >> there's a few things that are interesting about it. i mean the most interesting is you generally don't have the interactions that occurred in this case with the fbi. i mean as the report prior to this interview said they went to one of the defendants in this case and asked him about a social media postings. if he admitted to them that he wanted to kill the president, he admitted he was a supporter of isis. he was basically caught red-handed. generally people make up some sort of excuse. it's interesting that he admitted that. it's interesting they were able to get a confidential informant into the group after he admitted to the fbi he wanted to kill the president and was an isis supporter. this indicates some poor operational security on their

part and the fact they were so eager to get in with isis and spread isis' ideas, that they trusted someone who was unfamiliar and ultimately helped to provide the fbi some information that gave them authority for example to undertake wiretaps and other such things. >> it is fascinating to read this 23-page complaint from the fbi on these guys. daveed gartenstein-ross tom fuentes, thanks so much for helping us walk through all of this. we'll have more on this breaking news throughout the program. let's go over to michaela. this morning we're learning that the number of syrian christians being held hostage by isis has nearly tripled. there are growing concerns about their fate. senior international correspondent ben wedeman is live in erbil, iraq with the latest on what we know. >> michaela if you thought the story was bad, it's just gotten a lot worse. day before yesterday, our initial reporting was that between 70-100 people in northeastern syria, a syrian christians mostly women,

children and the elderly, had been abducted by isis. now we hear from edward osama edward founder of the syrian human rights network, who is in sweden but has relatives and is in touch with people in the area. he says that that number is 262 people abducted and currently in the hands of isis. now we don't know their fate. there were reports that some of them had been sent to raqqa, which is in north central syria. essentially the capital of the islamic state. and of course as we know in the past oftentimes these people especially the women end up being sold as sex slaves to isis fighters. in addition to that we are hearing that thousands, not the original 700 asyrian christian families have fled villages approximately 11 of them according to osama edward have

been attacked 11 villages have been attacked by isis as well. that situation getting increasingly grim as we look for more information. meanwhile, there is somewhat brighter story here in iraq to the south, the town of ball gami right next to the assad air base the biggest base in anbar province where several hundred american servicemen and contractors are working to support the iraqi army the iraqi army reporting they were able to retake at least 70% of the city. michaela? >> i'll take it ben, thank you very much. we have new terror arrests obviously here and they make clear how fragile these cases are. that means you don't want to destabilize the efforts which means the game something played with homeland security funding right now are that much more dangerous. let's bring in cnn senior white house correspondent jim acosta with more. what's the lay of the land? we know it's snowing, but is it

thawing behind you with the gop leadership and the democrats? >> the forecast is unclear, chris. but that case in new york and the other lone wolf cases are exactly what the white house is worried about. the alleged lone wolves who travel from the united states and the west down to syria to try to join isis get training and come back to the homeland to potentially wreak havoc, that's why white house officials say this is no time for the department of homeland security to run out of funding. a message that the president delivered last night in miami. >> what we said to republicans is instead of trying to hold hostage funding for the department of homeland security which is so important for our national security. fund that and let's get on with actually passing comprehensive immigration reform. >> now, as for the state of play up on capitol hill the senate should technically be able to get to this homeland security bill later today. have a bill that only funds the agency. and puts aside everything else and then that potentially could

go to the house. nobody is making any guarantees on capitol hill because of the uncertainty in the house, we have less than 48 hours to go. the president will be doing a round of local television interviews one more chance to hammer home the message. guys back to you. >> also breaking overnight -- the taliban claiming responsibility for a deadly attack outside the iranian embassy in kabul, afghanistan. police say the target was actually a turkish military convoy the turkish embassy is adjacent to the iranian one. at least two people were killed. iranian officials condemned the attack and say no members of their diplomatic staff were injured. recreational marijuana use is now legal in our nation's capital. adults 21 and over in washington, d.c. can smoke pot, possess up to two ounces and grow up to six plants in their homes for personal use. the law took effect at midnight. the sale of marijuana, meanwhile, is still illegal in washington, but the district council is considering a measure to regulate and tax pot sales

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much of the south is getting slammed by another winter storm. warnings are in effect in 11 states georgia, alabama, tennessee and north carolina have declared states of emergency. in fact north carolina getting hit hard by snow right now. many schools across the state are closed for the day. it's not just the south, up north in maine, snow and ice contributing to a massive pile-up on i-95. 70 vehicles involved. incredibly no one was injured. want to turn to meteorologist chad myers with more on the latest dose of crippling cold. hey, chad. >> the winter that will not stop. northern alabama, a foot of snow huntsville eight inches

of snow even chattanooga in the act at seven inches. still snowing in richmond virginia washington, d.c. a picture in washington, d.c. hard to see the flakes but they're flying through, can you see gators pushing out of the way. snow up into the lights up into washington, d.c. this morning. it's going to be a slow drive up and down i-95 and 64 68 all the interstates through the northeast are going to be slow. eing a little light precipitation up into boston and philadelphia. this dps away in the next four or five hours, richmond you're seeing the snow another two to four before it stops. hampton roads seeing its fair share of snow as well. likely breaking daily records, because it doesn't know at virginia beach very often. but it is today. for tomorrow we move away and more storms move in for the weekend, more snow for chicago, most likely heavier snow south of chicago, but for the skiers

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that are out today, even at north carolina university i understand some of the students have been moved into the gym because the power is out over there. >> power outages a big concern today. obviously getting the roads clear. we understand temperatures are going to get a little warmer. but then cool off again. tonight, i guess the concern on the roadways will be black ice. >> exactly, we're urging people to stay off the roads, city government has delayed an opening until 11:00 today. the best thing to do is for people to stay off the roads. >> we know you folks are hardy there, this is not a record-breaker by any stretch of the imagination, that was back in 1922 and 15 inches or something. but it is the fourth named winter storm in the past two weeks. sort of a repeat. we keep talking about this as the storm that was never end. is this stretching your city resources? >> to an extent it is. it's causing a lot of havoc with our schools, we've had closings. we certainly didn't want that. some businesses have had a lot

of delayed openings. so your point is correct. it's been consistency that's been the problem. >> we also understand that your city offices right now will have a delayed opening. will you make a call at some point today to just shut them down for the day? >> well at some point in time we'll make that call. it will be closer to 11:00. but hopefully we're going to be able to open at 11:00 and if the temperature rises, we'll get some relief. >> what's your biggest concern today and priorities for the city. >> keeping people on the roads, so we can get the roads cleared. when the temperature falls again tonight we'll have clear roads and hopefully things will be better friday. >> it's good to know thaw see crews out there dealing with the power outages and the downed tree limbs. urging residents in that area and across north carolina altogether. a state of emergency is in effect for that state and a winter storm warning continues to be in effect as well. mayor william bell in durham we

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isis executioner in many of those beheading videos has been identified. he is identified as a british national. the "washington post" and bbc say he grew up in west london and travelled to syria in 2012 and joined isis. more details at the top of the hour. that situation feeding into our understanding of what just happened here in new york city. another case of home-grown terror three brooklyn men take noon custody for allegedly aiding isis according federal authorities, two suspects plotted to fly to turkey and cross to syria to fight with isis. if the plot failed. the suspects threatened to bomb coney island and shoot barack obama. isis hostage numbers spiking in syria. a human rights organization say they're holding 262 assyrian

hostages. all of this as fighting intensifyies between kurds and isis. french police arresting three al jazeera journalists for flying illegal drones in paris. authorities in paris are no closer to solving the mystery of those other troubling drones sightings this week over some of their famous landmarks in the city. they say whoever is doing this is deliberately interfering with official surveillance capabilities. >> we have the reports of the identity of the man who has been called jihadi john. we told thaw. we have the three brooklyn men who have been arrested for a plot here domestically. so how will this all play into the homeland security funding fight? is this enough pressure for congress to get past their petty preliminaries and keep this country safe?

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accent in several isis beheading videos has been identified. let's get to cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr for details. >> these reports emerging from "reuters" news agency they're attributing their information to the bbc and the "washington post." a number of news organizations led by "reuters" coming out with this information. they're identifying the man known to the world as jihadi john duly as mohammed emwazi. he is a britain from a well-to-do family who grew up in west london, but was born in kuwait. he graduated from college with a degree in computer programming. is believed to have travelled to syria sometime in 2012 and then later joined up according to these news reports, with the islamic state. and of course he came to the world's attention in these horrifying videos you see some

of the stills there, masked in black. carrying out executions the first one, the world saw, was of the journalist james foley last year. appearing publicly in a total of four execution videos. what these reports are saying is that in his, he's in his mid 20s, and he appears to have left very little trail on social media. which is interesting, because of course the u.s. and western intelligence services have been saying it is through social media they are so much able to try to track operatives of the islamic state. but apparently mohammed emwazi also known as jihadi john was not using social media. a couple of interesting details in this article, it says he's been known to wear stylish clothes, that he's very careful about making eye contact with women. that he is an adherent to his

islamic faith. how do they know? in the news reports, an activist in london is quoted a man named kreshi is quoted as saying he had interaction with him emwazi and when he saw the videos the resemblance was strong and he is certain that it is emwazi. reports are indicating that this man, kreshi is expected to hold a news conference in london shortly. so there will be perhaps much more about all of this. so far, and it's early here in washington the obama administration the intelligence agencies not commenting on this but there is a statement from the metropolitan police in london saying they also will not comment on the identity of this person and it does remain an ongoing counterterrorism investigation. and that in the past they have asked media organizations not to name the man. back to you. >> that's not unusual for their

operational security. but assuming that the reports from "reuters" quoting the bbc and the "washington post," are accurate, we see a parallel between what's going on with jihadi john and what just happened here in the united states with home-grown threats, which is that authorities are watching people. but when do they act? when is it right? when is it enough? that's obviously a risky calculation. let's discuss with peter newman, director of the international center and michael weiss, author of "inside the army of isis." we hear about the background of the man known as jihadi john. born in kuwait moves to london well to do well educated. supposed to go on a safari as part of a graduation gift as any well-heeled kid would. gets messed with by authorities, says he was messed with again by a second time. becomes disgruntled. hooks up with a group and starts this radicalization play wlaxt do you see here? >> this is is almost out of

central casting. every case of british radicalization that i've ever seen including remember the underpants bomber the guy that tried to blow up the airliner over detroit. he went to the international college of london. his father was a minister in the government. came from a very well to do family. none of this surprises me assuming this is indeed jihadi john. the organization that seems to have identified him, cage used to be called cage prisoners, the organization was founded by a man who was a former guantanamo bay detainee had been arrestsed and spent six months in prison in the uk for trying to coordinate with fighters in syria. that doesn't surprise me they would be the ones to identify this guy. >> the concern, peter, we see it as a parallel with the arrests that happened yesterday here in brooklyn outside new york city is so you knew who this guy was, the british authorities, you were following them but somehow he still gets to go and do what

he is doing now. where is the line? is this a missed opportunity or part of the risk versus reward play in the fight against terrorism? >> it's very very difficult. it's very difficult right now for a lot of security agencies because of the volume of cases. the number of people who are on the security agency's radar screen are higher than ever before. and constantly they have to make choices as to whether to watch that person or to not watch that person. if you want to put surveillance on someone, 24/7 you need about 15 to 20 officers. no security agency in the world has the capacity to have everyone under surveillance all the time. so it is always hard choices, tough choices, based on you know judgment. essentially as to whether someone going to go off and do something crazy tomorrow or whether someone is just you know starting to radicalize it's very tough. >> you talk about the volume of

cases. and that's very much true here in the united states. let's listen to the fbi director james comey, talking about how many cases he has involving potential radicalization with isis. very specific. take a listen. >> those people exist in every state. i have home-grown violent extremist investigations in every single state. until a few weeks ago, there was 49 states alaska had none. which i couldn't quite figure out, but now alaska has joined the group. so we have investigations of people in various stages of radicalizing in all 50 states. >> there are two questions -- one is why is a call of such bar barbarism, such raw savagery appealing to people in places with great opportunities and education. >> it's a great question dlxt are those who are pius muslims, fired by the atrocities committed by the assad regime or

the authoritarianism in iraq it appeals to them on the basis of we are the custodians and the safeguards of sunni islam. there are the adrenaline junkies, they want to link up with these guys that are going around the world in a very exotic fashion, cutting people's heads off. there are just psychopaths, people who, i keep coming back to why does charles manson continue to get married after decades in prison. what kind of woman would be attracted to people like that. there's a den mother of these women who comes from glascow, coming back to the uk. who coordinate with girls, including possibly the three british muslim women who have gone over to syria to bring them over and say we have islamic state fighters ready to be married to you here. there is something in human psychology that seems to be lured to this kind of barbaric aspect of this. >> john miller, the new york

police department terror chief wrote a column inform he said what the arrests here show is that it doesn't matter what the government says it doesn't mat weather our investigative efforts are. this comes down to muslim leaders, charismatics and families and what they do to deter their own from becoming radicalized. do you agree. >> that's more or less what i said last week at the white house summit. i said it's very important for us to empower families. because 99% of the families of those guys who go to syria know about it and they do not want their kids to go. they often have very very painful arguments with their kids and they're leaving, anyway they do not know what to do. they need to be educated and they need to be assisted. because they're often the last people that have some degree of leverage of these people. and it is really the weak point, if you want from the perspective of the islamic state. because the parents are listened to in some cases and we've seen

cases where parents convince their kids to stay. so it's really really important to empower parents. >> peter neumann, michael wise thank you very much. we see the most recent arrest in brooklyn. the 19-year-old kid, his mother took his passport what a tough situation for the parent. you don't like what's happening to him. the a alternative is to tell the authorities and he gets arrested? there needs to be a path of discourse that helps of parents achieve the right goal. a new generation of parental nightmare, right, chris? given all of this that's going on shutdown showdown can congress get past the politics to keep the all-important department of homeland security operational? you just got a big bump in miles. so this is a great opportunity for an upgrade. sound good? great. because you're not you you're a whole airline... and it's not a ticket you're upgrading it's your entire operations, from domestic to international... which means you need help from a whole team of advisors. from workforce strategies to tech solutions

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breaking news "reuters" quoting the bbc and the "washington post," reporting the man known as jihadi john has been identified. and was known and monitored by british authorities before he went on his jihad jaunt. this news coming on the heels of three brooklyn men arrested just yesterday, for planning terrorist plots at home and

abroad. >> all this as there's this political showdown in washington, d.c. over funding the department of homeland security we're a day away from a partial shutdown of that agency so let's bring in john avlon, our cnn political analyst and editor in chief of the "daily beast" and margaret hoover republican consultant and sirius xm host. nice to see you john let me start with you. so all of this breaking news of terrorism, the terror arrests in brooklyn jihadi john being named. what is the hold-up in congress about authorizing funding for the dhs? >> i mean it makes you understand why republican congressman pete king said the current situation is living in a world of crazy people. we've seen this kind of gamesmanship over and over and over rarely with these high stakes. the brooklyn arrests yesterday reflect this is not a political game. people in congress may be doing

some positional bargaining but there are real-world stakes and people will be furious if we go over the cliff. >> i'm with john avlon, you're down in d.c. you're going to be around the conservative brain trust. i think this is a game-changer it's not just playing politics there's a real threat you can't mess with our best chance of stopping it. you think this will make a change? >> no. chris, you just said it the issue is that every single essential employee is still going to show up to work. >> the optics are bad. >> the optics are bad, but let's not be alarmist like president obama was last night. he was threatening the highest of stakes. >> the guy wanted to kill him. the guy was saying i want to kill the president, that's why he's concerned. >> he gets look that's not there because he gets hundreds of threats like those every single day and the sket service is still going to show up for work.

they'll probably go off the cliff. they'll probably get it done through the weekend so people won't get paid for two days and then they'll get paid. it's not good optics but it's not like a terrorist attack is going to happen on the backs of republicans who couldn't get their funding deal together in 24 hours. >> that's interesting, what margaret is saying it's about paychecks and jobs not about exposing us to more terror attacks. >> first, let's knock on wood. politics is perception this is a self-inflicted wound. that the republicans devised the idea they were going to tie the president's immigration executive order to dhs funding. they chose the target. even mitch mcconnell realized when the deal got close, this was a bad deal. democrats got on board with him yesterday. it looks like the house and the senate aren't even speaking the two republican leaders and there's no plan to go forward. >> the senate might vote on the mitch mcconnell plan today. >> and boehner is waiting to

find out what the senate does before he takes action. whether we go over the cliff, think more likely we get a short-term band-aid to bridge this because the optics are so bad and everybody realizes it. can john boehner control the crazy caucus? >> margaret think the balance of play has shifted. because the momentum was on the side of look these executive orders are looking sketchy, the courts say they're sketchy, we have high ground. now, you got guys running around in brooklyn who want to kilt president, who make it to a jetway before they're arrested. now, it seems like no the balance of play is take care of my safety first, take care of your politics second. >> yeah no i think that's right. i don't think again, department of homeland security is not going to continue to do its job to the best of its ability -- >> you're surmising, this is until god forbid something happens and some guy says i wasn't there that day. >> fully reject that alarmist attitude chris, i think that's

a media play. i don't agree with the optics let's keep in mind here president obama really played politics with his immigration executive orders and republicans walked into the trap. so republicans right, they did this. made stupid choices, have gotten themselves in really untenable position and now this item on the agenda is taking up all the oxygen as opposed to the constructive republican governing policy motives they ran on they said they were going to work on in this congress. where is tax reform. where are the trade deals. >> it's the republicans fault and that's what's so upsetting and disappointing, they took the bait from the president, they knew he was playing politics and they walked straight in the trap. >> i feel margaret's pain on this but this is the standard that the republicans set. mitch mcconnell promised no shutdowns on his watch. the challenge is not just to fight the president, bru to show you can govern and this is the first major test and they're going straight for the cliff. >> all right. thanks. we'll end on that cheery note - and

see what happens tomorrow. john and margaret thanks so much. these arrests, you can call it alarmist if you want. but they're real they just happened and people will focus on them. this is one story, a lot of news this morning, let's get to it. the man known as jihadi john has now been identified by his real name. >> started to radicalize after a planned safari in tanzania. >> it's very important to identify who else might be involved with him. arrests made in brooklyn new york. >> intent and capability of is what makes these guys dangerous. >> serious pause about terrorism in america. we need a fully funded department of homeland security. >> the defense never proved that he was clinically insane. >> his mental illness was not severe enough that he did not know what he was doing was wrong. his insanity defense wasn't going to fly. this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and

michaela pereira. this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning, everyone welcome back to "new day," we do have a lot of breaking news for you this morning. there are reports that jihadi john the masked executioner with the british accent in several of those gruesome isis beheading videos has been identified. >> let's get to cnn senior international correspondent nic robertson in london for breaking details. the big thing here is that authorities knew about him. they know the path to how he got where he got and that's very important for us this morning. what do we know? >> well this is information that "reuters" is reporting from the "washington post." and from the bbc. they are calling jihadi john mohammed emwazi. according to the details in the "washington post" report from which "reuters" has got the name they're saying he lived in london. he was a kuwaiti origin. he was from a middle class, well-to-do family. that had studied computer and electronics here in the uk. at least computer studies here

in the uk at the university in london. and the detail goes on to talk about how he went to tanzania in 2009 as a sort of a graduation gift from his family. when he was coming back he was arrested by authorities on arrival and sent back to the uk. the british intelligence agencies according to this "washington post" report. say he was question the british intelligence agencies questioned him. they questioned him again in the uk. and that the details of how precisely he came to go to syria, his precise reasoning and rationale, that's not clear at this stage. but what is clear from london is that despite the fact that he has been named publicly now, the police here the metropolitan police in charge of counterterrorism say they are not going to respond to this naming. that lives depend on this. on this sort of information being kept if you will out of the public domain. for that reason they say they're not going to comment any further

on this particular issue of jihadi john. >> chris? >> well operational security is often in play and we try to respect the government's wishes whenever we can in that regard. but nic, let me ask you this it raises the question you knew who he was, you were following him, the irony of him going on some graduation gift safari aside, which is when he supposedly was accosted by police and got upset and started his path. when do you take a man like this and when do you take the risk that you want to follow them and see where they go? >> you know chris, we got a great example of how differently the british and u.s. intelligence counterterrorism agencies work on this iraq.ssue. if you look at the three guys arrested in the united states yesterday. when they got on the radar, the fbi got in close, that there was somebody in their circle who was able to report on them. that he was an intelligence operateive and that led to their

arrest. in britain, what the british authorities have tended to do is wait in the background watch these groups. and hit them if you will arrest them before they go operational. the problem the british authorities face is they are short of security and counterterrorism personnel who have had the head of the metropolitan police counterterrorism here in the uk say it on the record as recently as several months ago. there has been an uptick in recruitment for the intelligence agencies. but when you have to put, and this is what we have from people close to intelligence operations here. when you need to put 20 to 30 people they say to monitor one person 24/7 you immediately get an idea of how stretched the resources here. >> nic, thank you very much for the reporting. more breaking news about home-grown terror in new york city. three brooklyn men busted for allegedly aiding isis two of them stopped from flying to

turkey where they planned to cross into syria to join ices is on the battlefield. the first known case of isis operatives successfully recruiting residents of new york city. we have team coverage starting with will ripley live in brooklyn. >> we know that the federal allegations laid out in these documents paint a picture of a plan that came disturbingly close to coming to fruition. the 19-year-old who lived in the build beeg hind me was actually at jfk airport ready to get on a plane to take off, heading to isis. >> the initial actions were to go to syria. >> two men intent on waging war with isis according to the fbi are in custody in new york. a third accomplice arrested in florida. >> at least one of the alleged aspiring terrorists lived in this brooklyn new york apartment complex. the building's superintendant says he didn't seem suspicious.

>> every time quiet. >> but federal prosecutors say 24-year-old abdurasul juraboev and his 19-year-old friend planned to fly from new york to turkey and then cross into syria to join isis. the teen's attorney says the fbi is rushing to prosecute. >> this is all information that is delivered to the fbi if a confidential inform the than the government says they can't rely on the credibility of. >> the third brooklyn man, a 30-year-old business own frer uzbekistan allegedly funded some of the efforts, according to the fbi, the men had a secondary plan this f they were unable to reach syria. that they would seek to acquire weapons here handguns machine gun and seek to attack very specifically police officers. >> according to court documents, abdurasul juraboev tried to make contact with the terror group in a online chat room last summer. saying to shoot obama and get shot ourselves, will it do?

that will strike fear in the hearts of infidels. that post brought fbi agents to his front door. abdurasul juraboev admitted he would harm president barack obama, but did not have the means to do so and said if isis ordered him to he would also plant a bomb on coney island in new york city. isis' online propaganda, a growing threat to the u.s. the state department says they're combatting around 90,000 tweets a day. this as the fbi says there are investigations into home-grown violent extremists in all 50 states. we know that isis is using social media to recruit. but chris, it is the digital footprint that these two suspects left. all three of them actually. the feds say helped lead them to them. because they were doing a lot of their communications online. if you were to ask people here in brooklyn's coney island neighborhood if these guys stood out, the answer no. one worked down the street at a restaurant.

texted his boss saying he wasn't going to be at seemingly normal young men, impressionable and influenced by the isis propaganda. really disturbing for a lot of people here. >> the more you canvass the neighborhood a big uzbek population they were concerned and how much they want to stop this. let's bring in republican senator from wisconsin, ron johnson, the chairman of the homeland security committee. he's also on the foreign relations committee. senator thank you for joining us especially at such a pivotal juncture. when we're dealing with the funding for the department of homeland security. there's no way to avoid it these arrests in brooklyn put a spotlight on it in a different way, especially with urgency. let's take a quick listen to what bill bratton, the new york police commissioner had to say about this. >> with all that's going on in washington at the moment the debate about with holding of funding for homeland security this is not the time to engage in activities that would

threaten our counterterrorism capabilities such as have been exhibited in the movement on this case. and effectively to hold our counterterrorism agencies hostage to political machinations in d.c. >> do you agree, senator and will you make it known to your colleagues to put an end to this stalemate? >> i do agree. i've been wanting to fund the department of homeland security for quite some time. i think every republican does want to fund the legitimate authorized activities and the essential activities of the department. we've been trying to get a bill on the floor of the senate for a number of weeks, it's been sent to democrats that have blocked even putting a bill on the floor for debate try to find the compromise try to find the path forward. leader mcconnell devised a path. and fortunately, i think a vote of 98-2 will take up the measure. it will would be nice if democrats would agree to a time agreement to get the vote taken

as quickly as possible and send it to the house. it's president obama that introduced immigration reform into the dhs funding, he's the one that engaged in the debate. he poisoned the well as leader mcconnell and speaker boehner warmed him he would do if he did this. he could end this in a second all he could do why doesn't he defer his deferred action and say let's recognize that a court of law has ruled his actions unlawful and just agree to defer that to the end of the fiscal year. this thing would be solved immediately. don't think he's going to do that. senate republicans, we we want to fund the department every republican does and we're trying to devise a path forward. but it's been democrats blocking it. >> i understand your point and let's take an even/if position here. even if the president baited the republicans into this essentially wirks essentially, why did the republicans who are in control and want to show that they can govern whatever that means from congress. why did you take the bait.

and when you say funding dhs, why don't you fund all of it it? you don't know which pieces will be essential. you know the men and women say they don't have enough let alone something to spare. >> constitution the constitution is pretty important and president obama repeatedly exceeds his constitutional authority. that's something the congress has to take pretty seriously. and a lot of us do. we took an oath of office to support and defend the constitution so that's a very serious issue. president obama has to admit, that a federal judge now has ruled that his unilateral actions on deferred action were unlawful, he's put injunction you know if president obama wants do rise above this if he's concerned about our homeland security he could end this in a second by saying let's, i'm going to defer my action on immigration until after the end of the fiscal year. this issue would be resolved immediately. don't think he's going to do that. which is why senate republicans, devised a path forward. we vote dodd get this bill on

the floor. finally democrats finally stopped blocking it hopefully we can get this passed. i'm calling on harry reid to let us vote on this as quickly as possible this morning. being sent over to the house and hopefully the house will act accordingly. >> senator, thank you very much. obviously there's a lot more urgency on this now based on these arrests in brooklyn. we had the fbi director say he has cases in all 50 states of people who want to go to isis. >> i want to fund the department of homeland security every republican does president obama is playing politics with this not us. >> we'll see how this moves forward, hopefully today. we want to get more analysis on our breaking news let's bring in harris rafiq, the managing director of the quilliam foundation. let's talk about what we have learned about jihadi john. he is being identified by the bbc, by the "washington post" and by "reuters," let's talk about the details that have come

out about him. friends now, that investigators have spoken to say that they believe he started to radicalize after a planned safari in tanzania following his graduation from the university of westminster. you believe he actually radicalized at university. why? >> i think that if we look at what he what he actually did and what actually happened intelligence agencies at tanzania and the uk intelligence agencies at the time believe he wasn't going on a safari. he was actually going to somalia. to join one of the terrorist groups out there. now they wouldn't have just done that without credible intelligence. and the university that he went to actually is known for being a bit of a hotbed for islamist radicalization. the other thing we also need to realize is that one of the reports that's come out, in the "washington post," they've actually used some quotes from a particular organization that

claims to be a human rights campaigner. >> called caje. >> i'm quite disgusted at wait they've tried to co-opt the victim mentality, as an excuse almost to try to justify this person's radicalization. >> they're being sympathetic to him, kaje is? >> what kaje are saying is he was radicalized by tanzania authorities, he was radicalized by the uk authorities because they monitored him. they were saying that the kuwaiti government didn't want him there because they suspected him for wanting to carry out terrorist activities. and then they went on to say that the final straw was that a convicted terrorist, saddiqi, when she was convicted, he felt he couldn't actually work within the democratic process or the processes around him and he felt if he was in a cage and he had to go and join isil. well at the end of the day.

this is not kuwait's fault. this is not tan dane gentleman's fault. this is not the british, uk intelligence' fault this is a guy who has been radicalized to an islamist ideology and is carrying out heinous crimes and he's a terrorist. >> you brought up somalia. it sounds like before he joined isis he tried to join al shabab. what do we know about those efforts and his attempt at going to somalia? >> well what happened was after he left university he was, he was going allegedly under the guise of a safari trip to go and join al shabab. we know that he was prevented from doing so. and some of the other former captors of isil. have told individuals and the "washington post" that this particular guy was very very fond of somalia. for some reason he has a very strong link to somalia and to al shabab. and this is something that's historic rather than isil.

now it may well be that we treat al shabab as a separate organization, a separate entity. but ultimately their goals and ideals and their ultimate world view is the same. the one thing i actually did want to say alisyn also is we've got to be very careful on what we do with this information now. we know that agencies have known for a while, who jihadi john is. and he's part of a group. and we got to be careful that we don't turn him into more of a brand than he actually already has become. i remember when osama bin laden was taken out. there was a lot of conversation amongst many governments, many authorities around the world to say look we've killed the head of the snake. but what we didn't doe do was kill the ideology. jihadi john or emwazi if it really is him, and there's evidence to suggest it is. is just one aspect of the brand that is isil and is the brand the ideology that we really need to counter. >> that's a great reminder and

caution, haras rafiq, thank you so much for the information. alisyn isis hostage numbers rise sharply in syria. an assyrian human rights group say that isis is holding 262 people hostage. real fears they could be forced into sex slavery or viciously killed. all of this unfolding as clashes intensify between kurdish forces and isis in one town where many of those abductions happened. also breaking overnight, two people killed in a suicide attack outside the iranian embassy in kabul, afghanistan. the taliban claims responsibility for this. police say the target was actually a turkish military convoy turkey's embassy is adjacent to iran's. iranian officials condemn the attack and say no members of their diplomatic staff were injured. new troubling information about u.s./israeli relations, netenyahu accusing the white house and other world powers of rolling over and allowing iran to develop a nuclear bomb.

secretary of state john kerry took issue with the prime minister firing back publicly questioning netenyahu's judgment. the administration has no plans to meet with the israeli prime minister just five days from now. when he addresses lawmakers about the iran threat. we'll continue to follow all of the breaking news this morning. reports say the isis executioner known previously as jihadi john has been identified. we'll tell you all that we're learning ahead. and chris kyle's brother, jeff, is here and will speak out for the first time since a texas jury delivered its verdict in the "american sniper" trial. does he think justice was served? and what would his brother want for eddie ray routh? people with type 2 diabetes come from all walks of life. if you have high blood sugar, ask your doctor about farxiga. it's a different kind of medicine that works by removing some sugar from your body. along with diet and exercise farxiga helps lower

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we did not take our decision lightly. >> there were a lot of tears in that deliberation room. we felt very we felt a lot of sympathy for eddie. we felt sympathy for the victims. >> and the family. >> and for his family. we took it very seriously. >> and they also thought he was not insane when he took the lives of chris kyle and chad littlefield. that was stacy matthews and heidi carillo, two of the 12 jurors on the trial of eddie ray routh. tuesday routh was found guilty of murdering former snooel and "american sniper" hischris kyle and his friend chad littlefield.

chris kyle's family is able to have their say because they were respecting the process. jeff kyle is a brother to chris kyle. he's been to the show before. active in the efforts his brother cared about and this is the first opportunity you're taking to discuss it and we appreciate that. what matters most here is i know how close you and your brother were. i know what was lost for your family. how are you dealing, how is his wife how are the kids? >> you know we're grateful that it turned out the way it did. i don't know that it's fully set in yet. that it's over. but -- there's a sense of relief and i think it's the start of a close of a chapter for us in our lives. >> you sat there for nine days listening to painful testimony. i think we have a photo of new the courtroom. think that's your mom. comforting you. >> yes. >> what was the hardest part for you during the trial.

>> just listening to defense. try to defend you know him and say that he was insane and that he had ptsd. >> you didn't believe that? >> not a bit. not a bit. >> you believe he didn't have those things or it didn't mat anywhere terms of what he did? >> well for one, i didn't believe that he was crazy. i didn't and i knew he didn't have ptsd. >> how, how did you know that? >> because he had never been in combat. he had never seen combat. so you have to have a traumatic incident to have post traumat he can stress. >> you know the whole case that the defense put on there and what was confusing for at least me while we were covering it is your brother recognized this man as damaged and troubled and in need of help. he wasn't a clinician, but he saw the need. and how do you reconcile that your brother thought he needed help but now he is not going to

get any? >> i don't know that chris actually knew that he needed help besides what his mom had told chris. i think they had had one or two phone conversations and it's hard to pick up something you know about somebody in just a phone conversation without seeing them. so i think because he was approached by the guy's mom, that chris would help any veteran. and chad as well. so that's why you know chris took chad with him. and it wasn't anything about you know taking chad with him because he felt unsafe. it was just you know that's who chad was, too. >> were there times during the trial thaw thought that eddie ray routh would not be found guilty? >> of course. you never know. you try to sometimes you try to watch the jury and catch their

reactions. but then you know you try not to because you don't want to get a false sense. but with the d.a. you know the prosecution, there was, they did such a bang-up job. you know they batted 1,000 every day. the defense, they gave it a good fight. but justice came out on top. >> it's interesting the point you make about what chris kyle what your brother knew about him. because you know there was speculation as people were going through this that well, if the guy was so sick why did you take him to a gun range. you're saying if chris knew he was so sick he wouldn't have taken him to a gun range. >> exactly. there's no way -- that text message keeps getting brought up. >> where your brother said this guy is nuts. >> we use that term all the time. my wife calls me nuts all the time. you know. maybe i am. but it's --

>> you shouldn't read too much into it. >> if chris thought he was an unstable individual he would have never taken him to the range. they might have gone to rough creek, but they would have stopped at the lodge and just sat around and you know ate and visited. and he definitely would have never turned his back on him. >> after nine days of you and your family sitting there in that courtroom, what was the moment like when you heard the jury say guilty? >> it was a relief. you could, definitely feel some pressure taken off of us and you know it was, it was an emotional moment. once they came and told us that the jury had reached a verdict, in that short period of time we kind of -- >> two and a half hours, including dinner. which in texas is no quick thing. >> we kind of figured that it was in our favor. so -- but it was a relief. >> so what do do you. it matters so much to you, i

want you to talk you're trying to find a way to carry your brother's legacy with you and that belt buckle i want you to describe. because there will be a reaction where people will say, the pts, there's no such thing and we keep hearing about how these guys are messed up afterwards they're just like anybody else. that is not how you feel. you want people to know about how damaging this process can be. so how do you, what do you do with that? >> you know pts is a real thing. definitely but not every veteran that has just because they've been deployed has pts. you know we don't put the d on it because it's not a disorder. it's is a situation. you're stressed. but the people that have true legitimate pts, they they deal with it. you know chris dealt with it

every day. they're not going around doing bad things doing illegal things and hurting people. you deal with it. you learn to live with it. just like anybody else that was in a traumatic car accident. you know you live with it. it may affect you behind closed doors, but out in public you'll never know the people that have true legitimate pts. and so that's why chris started that foundation guardian for heroes. and along with beast mode for the brave, we're bringing awareness to that. >> what is that beast mode for the brave, other than a great name? >> it's a challenge. and you can do anything from a physical fitness activity to we've referenced bull riders. you know bull riders can challenge somebody to come out and say, hey, ride this bull for eight seconds, ten seconds, you know or ride as many bulls as

you can in a day. and you know challenge yourself whether it be mentally or physically do something challenging that you don't do on a normal basis and raise awareness and challenge somebody else or donate. >> what do you think happens now for your family? what happens with chris's kids and his wife and how does everybody move on? >> i i think everybody keeps their nose to the grindstone and pushes forward even harder than what we did before. we don't have this holding us back now and we can really get it out there and really push and you know help as many veterans and their families as we can. >> we know that just because the trial is over, we know it's not over for your family. a loss like this takes a long time. he meant a lot to you and a lot of other people and that's why the legacy is so important and i know you're going to carry it with you. you know we're here to hear how we can help. >> yes, sir.

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reports that jihadi john the masked executioner in the isis beheading videos has been identified. let's get to cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr with more. >> the "reuters" news agency quoting the bbc and the "washington post" identifying the man as mohammed emwazi kuwaiti born in his mid 20s, the face of brutality, the world came to know with the execution video of james foley and three subsequent execution videos of three additional western hostages. the news reports are that friends and people who knew him are now identifying him. that they say that it is absolutely him in that video. officially neither the british or u.s. government is confirming

anything. said to be in his mid 20s. went to syria in 2012. became radicalized over time. before and after that and became the face of isis brutality. but let's get to the bottom line. can the west get to jihadi john? unlikely. if he remains in syria, there are no troops on the ground and to kill someone with an air strike an individual on the ground at a point in time from the air, very difficult and the bottom line is we know now there are so many more people in isis also willing to carry out the same brutal acts. back to you guys. >> excellent point barbara, thanks so much for all of that. other developing story to follow the home-grown terror in new york city three brooklyn men busted for allegedly aiding isis. according to authorities, two suspects plotted to fly to turkey and cross into syria to join isis on the battlefield. a third suspect allegedly organized and financed the scheme. if the plot failed authorities

say the back-up plan was to bomb coney island and to shoot the president. >> isis hostage numbers rise sharply in syria and assyrian group says that isis is holding 262 assyrian hostages fears they could be forced into sex slavery or killed. all of this as clashes intensify between kurdish forces and isis in one town where many abductions happened. net neutrality gets a long-awaited vote today. the divisive issue being taken on by the fcc. it's expected to approve new rules meant to preserve an open equal access internet and prevent service providers from discriminate discriminating. many republicans say the plan to regulate it as a utility much like landline phone service is overkill. more on the breaking news as we continue to get new details about the identity of the man known as jihadi john.

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welcome back to "new day." want to get to "inside politics" with john king who is in d.c. where i understand you're having quite a snow day. >> it's a beautiful morning, michaela here in d.c. and many people here would disagree some people think we're in the south. here you see the snow falling on the white house, snow behind us on the united states capital. it's about a couple of inches out there so far. schools have been delayed, some schools are closed. federal government employees can stay home. let's hope the congress comes in we have the funding deadline. remember at the end of the week the department of homeland security so shovel your sidewalk ladies and gentlemen of the senate and get to work. with me to share reporting, lisa blair and ron fournier. let's start with c-pac, a big

gathering, early aggressive maneuvering among republicans thinking about republicanings running for president. dr. ben carson chris christie ted cruz rand paul rick santorum jeb bush carly fiorina. scott walker has the boomlet of momentum at the moment. we've seen polls in iowa. there's a texas poll that shows him tied in the state of texas with ted cruz. out this week cruz 20%, walker 19%. his state legislature is doing something democrats won't like but conservatives will passing a right to work law, limiting the rights of labor unions. will scott walker come under attack? will other republicans decide even though it's so early to go after scott walk they are weekend? >> that's the big question of the day, right. do they decide to elevate his profile in a way by attacking

him or continue what seems to be a bit of a rise. a lot of campaigns are making the calculation whether it's better to let him continue or try to cut him off and risk the possibility of getting hit more attention. >> yeah he's got a bullet in part because of the fact that the media has come after him and has been holding him accountable and that's a good thing to happen when you're a base republican. the question they've got to worry about, if they come after him, if jeb bush comes after him, that's just going to make walker look bigger and stronger. my guess is they hold their fire and hope it's going to be like last cycle where candidates come up and down and walker comes back to earth. >> and they hope that walker does damage to himself. this is a far brighter far harsher spotlight than he's used to. we've seen he evidence of that when he got into a little bit of mess talking about the president's christianity. so i think a lot of campaigns are hoping that he does it for them. >> my guess is they don't.

>> we'll have a crowded republican field. yes, it's early. the first voting a year away in iowa. the first debate six months away in the fall. another guy at c pac who has something to prove, if you look at the polls and fundraising advantage. jeb bush is chris christie. he's doing his trademark town halls in new jersey. a lot of people say hillary clinton with beat him in the state of new jersey. and a lot of people say really you're going to be our governor and run for president? chris christie says don't worry about it. >> just because i'm going to need a job after this i can't do this any more i'm constitutionally prohibited eight years and i'm done. just because i'm going to have to consider what the next job is going to be doesn't mean i'm not on the job doing the job every day i do here. i can walk and chew gum at the same time so can you. >> i don't think some people in

the state think he can do both his approval ratings have been dropping sharply. he's had rough couple of months he tried to make an argument about fiscal poncibility and the pensions and state court said they sort of disavowed what he did on pensions i think he needs to articulate an arc argment for why he wants to run for president and restore confidence among donors that he can do it. >> he's not careful, he's going to hurt himself both ways. he's going to not win the presidency or get close to nomination and undermine himself in new jersey. >> interesting to watch in the next couple of weeks whether chris christie takes the plunge. he's exploring, building a staff, but a lot of people are skeptical maybe in the end he decides not to do it. this is under the banner of no pigs don't fly, donald trump tells the "washington post" that he's serious this time. unlike the last three presidential cycles where he

said he was thinking about running and we knew it was a joke. he said it's not fun, i'm not doing it for enjoyment. i'm doing it because the country is in serious trouble. >> he's not a serious man. >> it's hard to greet that news with anything but a big yawn. >> the guy's good at self-promotion and brand promotion and see new iowa buddy, would love that. new questions this morning about the clinton foundation, we've talked about the story for a couple of days now. we learned after she left the state department secretary clinton, they started taking international money again. money from foreign governments at the clinton foundation. the "washington post" reporting there have been some exceptions while she was secretary of state, they took some money because of the contract agreements, they did that. and there was one donation that violated the agreement that president obama forced on the clintons $500,000 from the government of ail jeeria a statement says they admit they

violated the terms of the agreement. they said it was an oversight because algeria wanted to give $500,000 to the admirable efforts of the clinton foundation in haiti. >> i was just in silicon valley seeing secretary clinton give a preview of her campaign speech and the rights of women and promoting women and hard to see how taking money from these countries that are known for their record on women's rights doesn't undermine that message. that's one of the many problems with this question. >> i wrote this was ethically sleazy and politically stupid. i stand by those words and what we've seen since then you think i'll double down on them. the clintons' biggest blind spot for all the admirable things about them is the biggest blind spot is they actually think that the ends justify the means. they don't. >> what the foundation is doing, haiti, admirable work. but algeria was lobbying the

state department for human rights issues in washington. looks bad. even if nothing bad happened. looks bad. should have known better. >> something bad did happen what they did is bad, this should not happen. >> mr. cuomo as we get back to you in new york. that's an interesting thing to watch. we'll keep an eye, the president making clear in miami that he thinks he's right on the whole dhs shutdown thing. the clock is ticking. >> people have a lot of questions for him. you no he who else they may have a lot of questions for, john king? you. question him about the 2016 race or how he gets the almost-impossible swoop in his hair. i know the answer to that this is your chance. 2:00 p.m. eastern. john king hosting a live facebook chat. answering your questions about the cpac the dh thing, about to

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get to a large issue of foreign fighters. you've reported this well. thousands and thousands of radicalized young men in particular are joining this fight, and that's what makes this threat of isil so significant. >> you stated the pentagon cannot confirm his identity however, there are reports that even back in september the fbi said that it had learned jihadi john's identity but was not revealing it to the public. does the fbi believe this is emwazi? >> i would point you to the fbi for that. what i can tell you is we're not able to confirm his identity at this time. as you may understand there's literally ongoing investigations into the murders of the american hostages that isil executed. again, we wouldn't want to get ahead of that. >> this is the reason why it is significant, he is that mysterious figure. the american public has been trying to figure out who that mysterious figure is shrouded in

black. >> sure. >> you only see his eyes. he speaks english. he has a british accent. >> right. >> it seems as though if we were to be able to figure out his identity definitively that that would be a major piece of the puzzle. >> i think everybody would like to know who this individual is of course. certainly to assist in the investigative efforts. there a's no doubt about that but at the pent gone here militarily we're focused more on a broader fight against isil from the time air and getting our iraqi security partners on the ground ready to continue to retake territory from isil. our focus is more on a military perspective here. >> we want to ask you from a military perspective about what's happening with the 262 assyrian christians that have been taken hostage. >> right. >> we're told they're mostly women, children and the elderly. how is the coalition going about trying to find these people? >> well it's very troubling, there's no question about that. we've seen these reports.

i have no reason to doubt their authenticity. this is sadly typical for a group like this with their barberous ways. all i can tell you is we're focused on isil all throughout the region iraq and in syria. we're trying to do what we can to degrade their capabilities minimize their influence and minimize their ability to do this kind of thing, to capture so many individuals and put them in harm's way which no doubt these people are. of course like the rest of the united states government here at the pentagon you know we condemn this act. we condemn this kind of brutality. >> can you confirm for us admiral, if in fact the coalition has now today launched airstrikes in that region where these christians were taken hostage? >> i'm not able to confirm that here as we speak, alisyn. what i can tell you is that we continue to put pressure on this group from the air, both iraq and in syria. and that's not going to stop. i mean we know the airstrikes more than 2400 2500 now have been very very effective. they're going to continue. where we can hit them and where

it matters. now one thing i will say is we're always mindful to try to not cause collateral damage or civilian casualties. what i will tell you is as we put pressure on them from the air we're going to continue to be just as precise as we can be. >> exactly. i can only imagine how difficult it is to launch airstrikes when there are 262 innocent christians being held somewhere and the coalition doesn't know where they're being held. >> well again, i wouldn't get into specific intelligence matters about where they may be but what i can tell you is that we're going to be very mindful, as we have been as we go against isil from the air not to try to cause any collateral damage or civilian casualties. when you have a group this big, that's assuming they're altogether we don't know that they could be split up. we're always going to be mindful of civilians in any kind of airstrike that they take. >> admiral, can you confirm that there are airstrikes underway around the town of al baghdadi and that town is significant

because u.s. forces are stationed at an airbase near there? >> well, you're right al baghdadi is close to al asad air force base and we talked about that when there was an interrupted attack against the perimeter. the iraqi security forces are on the move in al baghdadi. they're making good progress. they launched an initiative to retake that town. by all accounts what we're getting is that their operations have been successfully prosecuted. they still have a lot of work to do. they're still there. it's not mission complete right now, but what we're getting here at the pentagon is that they're making good progress in taking isil out of that town. they've killed more than 100 of their fighters. i think they're making good progress. >> admiral kirby, on a last note we understand this may be one of your last appearances on "new day," you are moving on from the pentagon spokesperson? >> that's right. i've got a little bit of time here left in the job and it's been a great privilege, a great

honor. i've enjoyed every single day of it. >> we've sure appreciated all the time you've made for "new day." we assume we'll see you in the next couple of weeks before you head out. >> thanks so much. >> kirby couldn't take the heat. i'm surprised he lasted this long. no he's been of great service to the country. we wish him well going forward. after the break we're going to have much more on the breaking news. the isis executioner called jihadi john has been revealed. did he get underway while under surveillance? the answer ahead. my doctor said that it could travel to my lungs and become an even bigger problem. so he talked to me about xarelto®. >>xarelto® is the first oral prescription blood thinner proven to treat and help prevent dvt and pe that doesn't require regular blood monitoring or changes to your diet. for a prior dvt i took warfarin, which required routine blood testing and dietary restrictions. not this time. while i was taking xarelto®, i still

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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning and welcome to your "new day." it is thursday february 26th. 8:00 in the east. we want to welcome our viewers across the u.s. and around the world. the breaking news are records that jihadi john the masked executioner in several of those terrible isis videos has been identified. >> so let's get right to cnn's senior international correspondent nic robertson for

all of the breaking details. what do we know, nic? >> reporter: we're being told through the reuters news agency washington post and the bbc that his name is mohammed emwazi that he lived in west london was a student here and came from a fairly well-to-do family. one of the people quoted in the reporting as knowing him worked for an organization called cage. it's an activist organization in the u.k. that organization has released a press release. in that release they say that emwazi was on their case files as somebody that had reported to this organization that he felt that he was being harassed by british intelligence services. what the reporting coming through reuters news agency quoting bbc and washington post indicates is that in 2009 emwazi left the u.k. went to tanzania on what was supposed to be a

graduation gift trip of a safari given by his parents, was arrested brought back to the u.k. and questioned by british intelligence officials. at that time they suggested he was going to so he malling yeah to join the alka qaeda affiliate. they went on to say that he was with the intelligence services. that's what's being reported through reuters, bbc and washington post. british officials say the foreign office here and the head of the metropolitan police say they will not confirm if this is jihadi john because lives are at risk and operational concerns. back to you. >> nic, there's plenty to figure out here. thank you for the reporting. let's bring in some of our best analysts tom few en'tis and daveed ross.

gentlemen, thank you. daveed they knew who he was, they were watching him and yet he wound up fighting for isis. is this a failure of being able to surveil and capture? >> it's a failure, but the question is whether it's a failure where something different could have been done that would have stopped it. peter neyman was on the show in the last hour. one point that he made which is important is to undertake 24-hour surveillance of these guys it takes an enormous amount of resources. it takes 15 to 20 agents to do so. >> he wasn't jihadi john then. he was one of many. >> precisely. when you look at the volume failures are failures that would have been difficult to defend. >> the arrests in brooklyn yesterday. they reach out to the guys the fbi, your brothers and sisters, and be they say, so what's going

on? why are you talking to this uzbek site? because i want to kill the president. i want to bomb coney island. they don't arrest them then? what is the calculation being made? >> what's interesting there, chris, is this is similar to the female in denver that wanted to join and the fbi went to her and said don't go. she insisted. they went to her parents, tell your daughter don't go she insisted and they took her off the jetway because she was going. you have a similar thing here with zurbai the first subject. they see the posting on the uz beck language isis site. the very first posting he says i'll kill obama, pledge my support. he tells him, yeah that's what i'm going to do. he puts it in uzbek writing, makes a statement, yeah that's what i'm going to do. they initiate electronic surveillance. he identifies the second subject

saidakhmetov. they have both subjects. they start the electronic surveillance. it leads to the third subject, habibov who had hired them to help remodel kiosks do some work for him. here's a guy that they can't talk him out of going to join isis and being a jihadist and they can't trust him because he says if i don't go -- >> he's going to do things here. >> we'll kill people here. right. >> then you get to what is the best avenue to exclusion with these guys? how do you get them? daveed we go back to jihadi john. look at his past. born in kuwait. family leaves for a better life in london. they get it. they're successful. he gets a great degree. he gets a graduation gift of a safari. he gets picked on by authorities, targeted he thigsnks, and then starts a radicalization process that was either completely understood or not. just kind of focus on the best chance to stop these guys seems

to be the family. doesn't seem the government messaging, media is going to get it done. >> absolutely. the family is the first thing, then community, then police/authorities. as tom said sometimes the fbi will pay a visit to try to deter someone. then finally law enforcement should be the last resort in general except for the guys that are really dangerous. one thing i want to say, chris, when we're looking at a radicalization pattern there's right now a narrative that he had radicalized after he was denied entry to tanzania. i would say there was a question mark there. the reason he was denied entry is because they thought -- the authorities there thought he might want to go to somalia to join the extremist group al shabaab and hostages have said he was obsessed with shabab he was obsessed with somalia. he would keep talking with that. >> maybe they knew more earlier on and it wasn't a mistake and it wasn't a grievance or legit one that he had. he also doesn't have the kind of electric footprint that these

guys in brooklyn provided so it's harder to know. that takes us back to that tom. the mother she knew what was going on. she didn't like her boy who was only 19 years old was around. she took his passport. she did what she could. people say she should have gone to the authorities and told them. that's not really a practical things for parents to do tom. nobody wants to rat on their kid for authorities when you know he's going to get arrested as a potential terrorist. what do we have to look at for a medium step? >> that's not always true chris. when you look at the outreach program that they have done in the minneapolis area they do have the parents reporting that. we've had other cases when i was still in the bureau where the parents, we had a group of kids here from northern virginia that took off and went to pakistan. the parents turned them in. they contacted the fbi. >> it happens. it happens. how often do you think it doesn't happen? how do we prove an unknown?

>> also chris, in this case the mother tries to talk him out of it. so you do have an attempt by family intervention. >> yes. >> fbi intervention don't do it. don't make -- don't make us arrest you, please. >> but is there a way for families to work with authorities in a way that does not expose the kid to criminal you know consequences right away? is that something that's worth thinking about? >> well there wouldn't be criminal consequences unless the kid insists on going to commit crimes. they bring this down on themselves. all the attempts to talk them out of it by parents, community leaders, the fbi agents themselves if that's not successful the fbi doesn't want to have to do these cases. i know you know from experience that this is a bother some type investigation like we're trying to investigate whether we have a major al qaeda or major isis or al qaeda in the arabian peninsula sending printer bombs or trying to take down an airplane with

explosives. we want to devote our resources to the major cases -- >> right. >> -- not the goofy kids that pull this stuff. >> the game is changing. >> we don't have a choice. they can't ignore it when the kids insist on doing it. tom fuentes, daveed ross thank you. we're going to have more on the home grown terrorists. one is in new york city. will ripley is live from brooklyn where three arrests have been made. will. >> reporter: well michaela in this neighborhood which is about as diverse as you can get where you can turn the corner and feel like you've stepped into another country, what we're seeing emerge here is what the feds believe may be a trend. terror groups like isis al shabaab and others turning to minorities in these areas, troubled youth who may not feel fully connected to american society trying to recruit them to join. >> the initial actions were effectively to go to syria. >> reporter: this morning two men intent on wagging war with

isis according to the fbi are in custody in new york. a third accomplice arrested in florida. at least one of the alleged aspiring terrorists lived in this brooklyn new york apartment complex. the building's superintendent says he didn't seem suspicious. >> quiet. >> reporter: federal prosecutors said abdurasul juraboev planned to fly to syria and join isis. they say the fbi is rushing to prosecute. >> this is all information that is delivered to the fbi from a confidential informant that the government says in their own complaint they can't rely on the credibility of. >> reporter: the third brooklyn man, a 30-year-old business owner from uzbekistan funded some of this. the men had a chilling secondary plan if they were not able to reach syria. >> if they were not able to go that they would seek to acquire

weapons here handguns, machine gun, and seek to attack very specifically police officers. >> reporter: according to court documents juraboev attempted to make contact with the terror group saying to shoot obama and then get shot ourselves, will it do? that will strike fear in the hearts of infidels. that alarming posts brought fbi agents to his front door. juraboev allegedly admitted he would harm president barack obama but didn't have the means to do so and said if isis ordered him to do he would plant a bomb on coney island in new york city. isis's online propaganda a growing threat to the u.s. the state department says they're combatting around 90,000 tweets a day. this as the fbi says there are investigations into home grown violent extremists in all 50 states.

akhror saidakhmetov, the 19-year-old, the neighbors are very concerned about their plans to commit crimes in brooklyn if they weren't able to join isis. >> we can understand the concern. hakeem jeffries serves on the house judiciary committee. good morning, congressman. >> good morning, alisyn. >> they were arrested in brooklyn. they planned to travel to syria to join isis two of them. if that didn't work they were going to they said plant bombs at the popular tourist destination coney island which is in your district. what more do you know about this plan? >> well, this is a very disturbing development that strikes way too close to home. it makes it clear that the problem of radicalization is not just a middle eastern issue, not just a western european issue, it's an american issue. in this particular instance it's not clear why these terror

suspects were determined in the alternative to strike out at coney island other than the fact that it is a very popular destination for both new yorkers and for people from all across the world. it also is a very diverse community with christians jews and muslims, people of all different races living together and perhaps their warped ideology led them to want to strike out at a place that would carry that type of symbolism. >> well we get a little bit of a window into their mind set, and it is fascinating. this is part of the 25 page affidavit that the fbi -- the fbi complaint that has just been filed about these guys. here is this 24-year-old suspect and he is communicating with someone on an isis propaganda website. this is from august 8th. this is the posting that alerted the fbi, i believe, to his plans. here's what he says. greetings. we too, wanted to pledge our allegiance and it commit ourselves while not present there. i am in the usa now, but we

don't have any arms stmpt possible to commit ourselves as dedicated mart terse anyway while here? what i'm saying is to shoot obama and then get shot ourselves. will it do? that will strike fear in the hearts of infidels. now this does not sound like the sharpest tool in the shed however, they don't have to be smart. they can still just you know wreak havoc. are you afraid that there are others in your district who are also extremists and have plans? >> well i think we all have to be alarmed because there's a clear and deliberate attempt by isis to propagate radicalization all throughout the western world, certainly in america, and it's now clear that there are people disturbed, troubled individuals, young people in our own community susceptible to the isis propaganda campaign. i'm confident that commissioner branton, the new york city police department the fbi and cia and other entities are doing all that is necessary but this

is an example why we need all hands on deck including the department of homeland security which is why it's unreasonable reckless for house republicans to be placing us on the brink of shutting down the homeland security department in the midst of individuals who clearly want to strike out at our homeland. >> well exactly coopngressman. what is going on in that building behind you? we're 24 hours from the dhs funding drying up somewhat. that government agency being partially at least shut down. so what's going to happen today? >> well i've been left to make reference to that famous new york philosopher yogi berra, it's like deja vu all over again. we're being taken on another reckless legislative joyride. the american people have to suffer through the uncertainty whether we're going to crash and burn our safety and security because of the need to satisfy the ideological extreme right wing by some in the capitol. it really is unclear. it does seem that the senators

on the other side of the capitol are prepared to conduct themselves with mitch mcconnell's leadership in a more responsible fashion but i was struck alisyn by the fact that yesterday john boehner apparently made the statement that he hadn't spoken to mitch mcconnell in several weeks. i mean this is not a long commute to get from one side of the capitol to the other, and when the safety and security of the american people is at risk republicans should be talking to republicans about how we can resolve the situation. that's not happening, and the continued uncertainty is particularly troubling now for the people i represent in brooklyn but should be troubling to everyone in america. i'm hopeful that the cooler heads will prevail, adults will step forward and we can get this resolved before tomorrow's midnight deadline. >> congressman, you're saying if the bill were to be divided as mitch mcconnell has suggested voting for dhs funding in one bill and deciding what to do about immigration in a separate agenda that democrats would be

on board with that plan? >> i certainly would be on board based on what i've learned about the plan preliminarily. i think that it is important to separate the issue of dhs funding from the issue of president obama's executive action on immigration, which i support. but reasonable minds can of course differ about it. i believe it was entirely constitutional and consistent with his presidential authority. if others disagree, handle that issue legislatively or of course allow the court process to take its place and we'll see what ultimately judges determine, but separate out the important issue of the safety and security of the american people. >> congressman hakeem jeffries we appreciate you coming on and we will be watching closely to see what happens in washington d.c. today. >> thanks so much. isis hostage numbers are spiking in syria. a human rights organization says the terror group is now holding 262 christians hostage. their growing fears about their faith.

all of this unfolding as clashes intensify between kurdish forces and isis in one town where many of the abduct shuns happen. opening statements are expected to begin next week in the murder trial of boston marathon bombing suspect. the jury pool has now been finalized but the prosecution and defense team settling on a pool of 70 perspective jurors. that will be whittled down to 12 with 6 alternates. pros courtors are seeking the death penalty. a winter storm working its way up the west coast as we speak hitting washington d.c. as you can probably tell there. look at these pictures. this is live of the white house and there's the capitol where the snow is really coming down. the system is battering the south overnight as well especially north carolina. up to a foot of snow in some areas. >> winter storm warnings are in effect in 11 states today. schools in cities including atlanta, knoxville, charlotte, they are all closed today. the big news that we're following is that the isis executioner known as jihadi john

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with a countering violent extremism conference in washington. this is something that's going to require all hands on deck not only in the united states but across the world. >> all right. so we look at the arrests in brooklyn. one of the guys found in florida. he seems to be somewhat of a new animal that we'll term a terror investor that he was basically just providing the money for these guys to go do terrible things. what do you do about that threat? >> so chris, this is a multi-faceted problem that requires a multi-faceted approach. let me break it down. at the encountering violent extremism conference last week there were 70 nations that identified the four stages of the development of the extremist life cycle. there is the initial recruitment and radicalization then there's the mobilization then there's the travel to and from and then the return back to the country. it's important that we have people engaged at every step of

that process, from radicalization recruitment with information sharing between the department of homeland security local law enforcement, intelligence agencies to the travel to and fro that involves our border and aviation security to ultimately the return back and so again, this is a multi-faceted approach that's going to require all hands on deck including importantly with the back drop of what's happening on capitol hill today the department of homeland security is essential to just about every piece of that process, chris. >> well i'm going to get to you on that in just a second. you have the fbi director saying he's got cases of people here trying to get radicalized in all 50 states to join isis all 50 states the fbi directed. how did we mistake, and by we i mean you, mistake isis as a jv team when they now have all 50 states with radicalization threats? >> so chris, i think what we need to do is focus on the present, which is the present

threat. >> but the present is informed by the decisions of the past mr. simas, and that's why i ask. it may state that you guys didn't know what you were dealing with here. hopefully you do know now but did you then? >> mr. cuomo, what you're addressing is the present recruitment and radicalization that's happening now. that requires the steps that we identified last week at the countering violent extremism conference not only the united states but across the world, and that's why there were 70 nations involved right now who see that this is an evolving multi-faceted threat that we're addressing. and, again, chris, it requires not only the department of homeland security it involves local law enforcement, it involves intelligence it involves the sharing of information. as we deal with this new, evolving threat that isis poses. this is about where we go from here and build on the work that's already been done. >> absolutely. but obviously you want to own what got you to this point

because it gives confidence in what you say about where you're going to go that takes us to the dhs battle. the criticism is you put the immigration bill into the dhs funding mechanism. you created this standoff. why doesn't the president just back off? you have a court -- you have a court process to deal with now anyway. back off on that. remove it as an issue and let's keep dhs safe? >> well chris, that -- that just is a profound misunderstanding of what happened here. the president, because congress for more than a year failed to act on comprehensive immigration reform took executive action within his authority. that did two very important things. the first thing was to focus on felons and not breaking up families in terms of prosecutorial discretion. the second thing was to say, look if we've got people in this country who have been living in the shadows, we need to bring them out, have them undergo criminal background

checks and pay taxes so that they can become part of the community. that's the immigration piece. what house andersen nate represent -- and senate leaders decided to do is take a clean dhs funding bill and insert language that would strip the president of authority, by the way authority that's been exercised by every president since dwight eisenhower. so our position has been clear on this. you want to debate immigration, let's have an immigration debate but at its core congress do your job, fund dhs, and what's been happening over the past couple of weeks should be -- should raise a sense of urgency as to why they need to separate these and deal with it cleanly. >> hopefully the president can rally his side of the aisle to do what needs to be done in the senate and the house to get the dhs funded before the deadline because we see the threat is all too clear and all too present. mr. simas, thank you, as always for being on "new day." >> chris, thank you.

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all right. here we go with the five things you need to know for your "new day." number one reports from reuters via the bbc and washington post have identified the so-called jihadi john from the isis videos. his name is reportedly mohammed emwazi a british national. three men arrested for trying to aid isis two flying to turkey to join the fight on the battlefield in syria. the heat is on house republicans to pass a clean funding bill to fund department of homeland security. meanwhile, a key vote in the senate this morning on loretta lynchs nomination. she is expected to get enough support to ultimately be confirmed. pop star madonna suffering a

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reports the man known as jihadi john has been identified. this as a new intelligence report conducted by the institute for the study of war may shed some light on isis's ultimate goal. then we have to think about what will it take to stop them. joining us the research director for the institute study of war is jessica mcfate. she was on the ground in iraq

and afghanistan. and also joining us is mr. phillip mudd. mr. mudd i start with you. this news do you believe it is news? we are told they already knew the identity of this man for some time u.k. authorities. why would they keep it quiet? how do you think this helped them? >> chris, i'm struggling to figure this one out. if you're looking at this, it's not news to jihadi john it's not news to the british security service and his friends and family. i typically look at a situation like this saying what advantage are you giving by an adversary by identifying him. the met has a good rationale. i don't think this is a huge revelation because the adversary already knew that he was identified. >> jessica, the -- this organization comes into play that i need you to help us out with called cage. they come forward and they say this guy is a victim this jihadi john. he was harassed.

he was routinely brought in. they made him into this the british government. why would this message be put out by this organization and do you put any stock in it? >> i don't put any stock in it. i think this is likely a gentleman who already wanted to conduct these kinds of activities and found isis to be exactly the haven for the kind of work that he wanted to do. and he wanted to be an executioner and he got to be an executioner so he found isis. that's my interpretation of the kind of person we're dealing with. >> what is cage and what are they doing with this kind of propaganda? >> well from what you just described, i would suggest that that sounds shockingly pro isis and i think that it is important to distinguish between the messages that are condoning isis and describing it as a haven for people who are persecuted and the messages that do describe the free world as for what it is.

>> now one of the questions that arise from this mr. mudd is that you knew who he was. you were following him. and you let him go. in brooklyn you were following these guys. one of them early on said to you, would love to put a bomb on coney island would love to kill the president. when do you take a guy in these circumstances and what is the risk/reward benefit of leaving them out there? what's the calculation? >> this is really interesting. there's one fact that people aren't focusing on that to me as a former practitioner is fascinating. one of these guys is taken down at the airport. what that said to me we'd like to continue the investigation. we can't allow this guy to travel. why continue? pretty simple. once you look at the heart of the spider web, we have three spiders. you want to map out is there money, co conspirators people helping with travel documents? you want to make sure when you take down the heart of the spider web you don't leave other bits out there that can recreate

another plot. that can take months. >> they did wind up getting this guy that i'm calling a terror investor from brooklyn but down there in jacksonville and seemed happy enough from florida, fund these activities. so that takes us to your report jessica. you co-authored this report about what isis really wants, and that is the question of the day. is it just about the lavant whatever that area means? is it just about being a caliphate in the middle east? what do you find? >> no. i think isis wants to start a global war and that that is partially in defense of the caliphate but it is partially about polarizing the world to be for or against isis with the idea that the caliphate will ultimately be the more powerful so that we see something. i love the description of the spider web that is centered geographically in iraq and syria but is intended to expand and is also intended to reach out to the west. >> and you talk about three geographic rings. what are they and why are they

relevant? >> well these rings, again, are another way of saying the spider web, that there is an inner ring where isis is fighting a ground war. there is a near abroad wing where they're trying to set up satellites in the region and then there is a far abroad where isis is conducting a number of connected attacks, be they support networks or inspired or even directly center or list attacks and propaganda. so really the global war is this place where we're talking about attacks and people who are responding to isis in the u.k. in brooklyn et cetera. >> this matters because, you know phillip, this metaphor of the white house doesn't know what to call these guys is just that. it's a metaphor because you start off with the president calling them a jv team. now you've got the fbi director saying he's got a case in all 50 states of radicalization efforts. here in the united states to go to isis. it makes you wonder do you guys know how to fight this enemy? >> look there's a couple aspects you have to think about.

there's a lot of conversation in the united states about who you to fight the enemy ideologically, for example. my view is you have to have the people in the region fight the ideology because we don't have the credibility to do it. i heard one of the previous guests talk about the white house initiative on countering violent extremism. i am not a big believer. do you want to get out from a white house pulpit and say extremism is bad in the islamic world? there's a piece that's got to be managed by the world some militarily some on the ideological front. we have 72 fingers in the dike. way nt to know who the guy in north dakota is. can you imagine somebody in north dakota saying i want to join isis? that's incredible. >> i can because everybody is on the internet now and you keep getting varied messages that inches city gate from isis. this taking christians obviously it will be sensitive to the united states. they're doing it for a reason. i know they're against everybody, they took 256 christians from one place. it makes it seem like a holy

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time for the good stuff. this one starts with the bad stuff. a couple with health problems fixed incomes scraping by. they saved to buy a used van so they could see their family. they find the perfect one on craig's list. the guy seems legit. has a title. that seems legit, but -- >> this man was so good with that title and everything else. i don't want nobody else to get screwed the way i did. >> he's upset and he was desperate. he has all these tanks and things that he needs. that's why they needed a mini van. turns out the van was stolen they're out the money and the car. rather than cry about it mark the man you saw, he decides to go to the public to help others not have the same fate. he goes to a car dealer. they hook them up with a brand new 2007 van completely for free. >> that's great. >> how about that.

>> just when you've given up and you think there ain't no good left there is. you just don't see it. you don't see it every day. >> oh, that's beautiful. >> that's beautiful. >> well done. >> he did the right thing. >> they gave him a good chrysler there so he can help himself. it shows that the community often steps up when others do the wrong thing or do nothing. not this time though. thanks to him. >> that's all right. time now for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> have a great day. thanks so much. "newsroom" starts now. and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. the face of isis now has a name. as friends help identify the identity of the man accused of beheading american journalist james foley and steven sotloff. according to reuters citing the washington post the man known as