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to pass. >> wolf blitzer will have much more on this coming up at the top of the hour. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." live long and prosper. happening now, mixed signals. the united states vowing to track down a top isis killer but britain tracked him for years, a suspected jihadi sympathizer and even detained him. new information on how the man known as jihadi john managed to escape. lawmakers holding the homeland security budget hostage right now. will they act to fund the people who keep this country safe or will they face a shutdown? and mall threats. the attorney general of the united states calls on shopping center operators to step up their own security efforts following chilling statements by terrorists. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we are following two breaking stories right now. the clock is clearly ticking down toward a partial shutdown
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of the department of homeland security as congress battles over funding. this showdown happening at a critical time. the united states and britain are vowing to hunt down the cold-blooded isis killer known as jihadi john. the londoner who has brutally slaughtered western hostages on camera. but while the world now knows his true identity mohammad emwazi was known to british security services for years. he was detained more than once. so how did he escape that scrutiny and become a key figure in the isis reign of terror? how will the department of homeland security protect americans from a terror threat which is growing daily if congress cannot find a way to pay those workers whose job is supposed to keep all of us safe? looks like republicans are moments away from failing to break the deadlock over funding the department of homeland security. house democrats joined by 15 republicans voted to block an effort to keep the money flowing for another three weeks. let's go immediately to our
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chief congressional correspondent dana bash up on capitol hill. dana the clock clearly ticking but it looks like this stalemate continues. >> reporter: that's right. what's going on as we speak on the house floor is a lot of arm twisting and pretty much panic. the republican leaders are scrambling to try to find now just a few more votes, but critical votes to keep the department of homeland security running just for three weeks. what's been going on is democrats had already said all day long they were going to vote no in protest because they don't like the concept of only kicking the can down the road and not fully funding the department. they don't like the short term bill. but now we are in the position of democrats potentially getting blamed for shutting down the department because they don't have the votes to at least do this stopgap measure. that's why this vote is still open. on the house floor, just a few feet from where i am right now, a lot of scrambling not just by house republicans but by democrats trying to figure out if they want to change their
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votes, enough of them to make sure this passes so that they don't have the tables turned on them and get blamed for a shutdown of the department of homeland security. >> it looks like right now, no time left. our viewers can see it on the screen. it looks like 222 nays 218 is the majority. they could still change their votes, i take it but if no one changes their votes, this is going to fail. >> reporter: that's correct. it has been out of vote so to speak, out of time for quite some time. you just saw the house speaker walk behind me as we were talking. he went from his office to the house floor so it's going to be some high profile arm twisting going on right now. i think he's obviously going to the floor to see what he can do. but you are exactly right, this is -- should have been over awhile ago but they are keeping it open in order to find those few more votes they need to pass this. they are not calling it failed yet. they are hoping that they can find a way to still make this work. >> what happens if it stays like
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this and it fails? what's next? >> reporter: if it fails, there is a big question mark. honestly i don't think there is a plan b right now, because the republicans are hoping that this will just keep them over for three weeks and that they can have a discussion about the whole reason why we're here in the first place, which is republicans do not like the idea of what the senate passed earlier today, in a bipartisan way, which is a clean bill fully funding the department of homeland security through the end of the year. republicans are still trying one last time to find a way to include in that a rider that blocks the president's immigration plan. they haven't been able to do that in the senate. there just aren't the votes in the senate for that. but they have been trying to at least make a statement by telling conservatives they are going to try one more time in a couple of weeks. but so far, that tactic isn't working. they are trying to figure out a plan b. there really wasn't one. >> so far, it looks like this
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has failed unless some people change their minds in relatively big numbers. stand by. i want to go to our white house correspondent, michelle kosinski. let's talk about what the president is trying to do to make sure the department of homeland security after midnight tonight still has money to protect the borders, protect national security protect airports people who are flying leaving the united states staying in the united states. what's the president doing? >> reporter: exactly. we haven't heard from the president directly at this 11th hour even though there have been plenty of questions day to day, what is the president doing, how is he going to engage is he going to sit down with any of these leaders directly or try to persuade some behind the scenes. but the answer from the white house has been pretty consistent that the president has been working on this throughout that basically the president did his job and congress did not. the language from the white house is getting more and more tough day to day, too. just today, saying that
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congress this is an abject failure of the leadership. yesterday saying it's as if congress is falling down on the job. in fact today the white house referred to an op-ed piece that john boehner had done right after the midterms saying now let's see congress go to work let's see it actually working. so the white house almost ridiculing that today in the briefing. we did see a tweet from the white house this afternoon saying we can't govern from crisis to crisis add your name if you support a long term plan to fund dhs. so what the white house has been hammering home is that they -- it did -- has done its work. they want a long term plan to fund dhs and they say what's interesting is that the hard work has already been done setting the level of funding. they're saying this isn't even a partisan dispute anymore. it's a party dispute, wolf. >> so stand by for a moment michelle. i want to go back to dana bash up on capitol hill.
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dana it's a little complicated what's going right now but we know the stakes are enormous as far as homeland security here in the united states is concerned right now. the stakes are really really critical. let's talk a little bit what has happened. there has been this debate that's been going back and forth. everybody says they want to fund the department of homeland security but the republicans didn't want to fund the president's executive action that would go ahead and take unilateral steps easing illegal immigrants' opportunities to remain in the united states. in the end, the senate, mitch mcconnell the senate majority leader, in the end he decided to put forward language that passed decisively overwhelmingly today, to keep the department of homeland security funded through the end of the fiscal year meaning until the end of september. that passed decisively. the democrats were on board, the republicans were on board. there was no mention of any immigration cutoff of spending anything along those lines, separate legislation was stalled on that. that legislation i take it now has gone over to the house of representatives, but the house
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has decided they wanted to pass simply a three-week extension which the democrats didn't want. they just thought that was kicking the can down the road. a lot of republicans didn't want it because it didn't have anything to do with cutting off spending for immigration reform. as a result we see what's up on the screen right now. 222 nays. you need 218, that's the majority that blocked there three-week call this continuing resolution during which the speaker of the house, john boehner, wanted in effect the negotiations to continue to have the house/senate conference committee go ahead, see if they could come up with some sort of plan to keep the department of homeland security working, functioning with full funding. that is now very much up in the air and it sets the prospects for a cutoff of funding at midnight tonight. >> reporter: that's right. both sides are playing hardball. you just described the mechanics of what they are doing. why they are doing it is this. republicans in the house feel that they still have one last
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gasp to try to push for some compromise that will at least mitigate what the president is able to do on his immigration plan and use their power of the purse which this is in order to force that to happen. democrats are playing hardball by saying no we are not, you look at the screen right now, 172 democrats voted against funding the department of homeland security. they didn't do it because they don't want to fund the department. they did it because they don't want to just do it temporarily for three weeks. they are saying if you want to fund it let's fund it for real. we are not going to play -- you have heard democrats all day on the house floor saying stop playing games, this is amateur hour all kinds of ways that they are pushing their fellow democrats not to go along with this. i said both sides are playing hardball. the question is which side is going to give in and it looks like -- the numbers haven't moved now in at least ten minutes. so what we initially thought going into this vote frankly, is that once we got to this point where it was just a few
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votes needed from the democrats for this to pass that they would give up their protests and vote yes in order to just allow this to go through. that is not happening right now. the democrats are really holding firm. so now it's up to republicans and i can tell you, i'm just a few feet off the house floor. deirdre walsh, our house reporter is around the corner. she has got a closer vantage point to members of congress. she is talking to republicans and democrats and it's pretty clear, they don't have a plan b. they are trying to figure out what to do next. >> dana a lot of viewers are looking at that image coming from the floor of the house of representatives. they see 204 yea, 222 nay. they see seven members of the house not voting. but they also see time remaining, 000. that's been about 10 or 15 minutes. zero time remaining. here's a couple questions. how long can they keep this vote open keep the clock at 000 and
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potentially give members a chance to change their minds, change their votes? >> reporter: indefinitely. there have been times late at night votes during back when tom delay was the house majority whip they held it open for hours to try to work over members to change votes. the house republicans or whomever is in charge at this point house republicans, are in charge of the house and they control the answer to that question. they will probably keep it open until they think it is absolutely pointless that they will not win this. so it could take quite a long time for them to come to that conclusion. we just don't know. >> let me go back to michelle at the white house. let's say the speaker of the house, john boehner, he convinces a bunch of republicans to change their votes. they get 218 that they need to pass this three-week extension allowing the funding to go forward for an additional three weeks, during which there will be more negotiations between the house and the senate presumably the president himself. has the white house indicated whether the president would sign
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a three-week so-called continuing resolution to allow the department of homeland security to continue paying workers hundreds of thousands of workers, has the white house said whether the president would sign that into law? >> reporter: they did address that today, saying yes, basically as a last resort as painful as this is for them to do yet another battle which is what this is setting up for. but very short term bill the white house said that if that's the only choice in order to keep the government shutting down then yeah, the president would sign that. but they have been hesitating to even answer that question for days. first waiting to see whether they would even be able to do a clean bill. the president saying for sure he would veto a bill that would attach itself to the immigration executive action. but at this point it looks like the white house would go along with pretty much anything to keep that vital part of the government functioning. >> michelle stand by. gloria borger is here with me in "the situation room." gloria why wouldn't the speaker of the house do what the
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majority leader in the senate mitch mcconnell did and allow the funding to go forward throughout the rest of this fiscal year until the end of september, since all that immigration stuff is on hold anyhow because a texas judge, a federal judge in texas says it's unconstitutional. the president didn't have the authority to do it it's not being implemented right now. why wouldn't the speaker go ahead and do what the republican leadership in the senate did? >> because he doesn't have control over his caucus. >> he's the speaker of the house. >> it doesn't matter anymore, wolf. it's not like the days of newt gingrich when he brought in the majority of the house -- >> i'm going to bring dana into this conversation. dana hypothetically, if john boehner would have agreed with mitch mcconnell and allowed the senate version to pass keeping the funding going through the end of september, the end of the fiscal year all the democrats in the house would have voted for it and a whole bunch of republicans would have voted for it as well. here's the question. would they have reached the magic number of 218? >> reporter: yes.
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likely. >> maybe. >> reporter: likely they would have. they could have been in the same position they're in right now. there is as much pressure -- they're gaveling. excuse me for one sec. let's listen. >> [ inaudible ]. >> on this vote the yeas are 203. the nays are 224. the joint resolution is not passed. without objection, a motion to reconsider is laid on the table. for what purpose does --
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>> reporter: wow. >> dana you heard the official announcement it failed. 224-203. here's the question. where do we go from here? >> reporter: we don't know. we just heard kevin mccarthy, the house majority leader just say on the house floor that they are going to wait for other votes. what democrats are hoping in having this mass protest and voting against this is that they are going to force republicans to take up the fully funded bill. they are going to force republicans to take up the bill that the senate passed. they are playing hardball or as a democrat who is on the house floor who just texted me saying we are playing a high stakes game of chicken. they are admitting it. it is a high stakes game. i will tell you politically, the risk that democrats are about to run is that it is going to be a lot easier for republicans to point fingers at them and say
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you contributed to the shutdown of the department of homeland security that you said we shouldn't do because you voted against keeping it open. >> dana looks like members are leaving the floor, moving on to other business right now. i don't know what other business they have. what could be more important than funding the department of homeland security and protecting all americans right now. but clearly, they've got a major problem. they have to figure out what to do and the clock, six hours, 44 minutes, is ticking. i assume they are going to go behind closed doors. the speaker, the majority leader and they will come up with some sort of strategy what to do the next few hours, right? >> reporter: that's right. the speaker has already walked by me from the house floor back to his office. i expect other members of his leadership to walk there, too, as they try to figure out a plan b which as i said, they simply didn't have. the other thing i want to point out about the vote is that it wasn't just democrats opposing it. the republicans have such a huge majority that they could have passed this with no democrats. about 50 republicans, it looks
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like, also voted no. the reason why they voted no is because they won't even vote for a short term spending bill to keep the government or the department running, rather without also protesting the president's immigration plan. so you have the push and the pull that john boehner has been seeing and feeling on so many issues for so many years continuing even on an issue like this which everybody has been saying is about the staftafety of the american people. >> doesn't get much more important than this. if you could grab one of the republican leaders walking by you, go ahead and grab him. get a hand-held mic ready to go. i want to bring in gloria for a moment. gloria this is a huge huge embarrassment for the speaker of the house, john boehner. he puts forward a piece of legislation to keep it funded for three weeks, he fails. >> which he thought by the way, which he presented to his caucus last night which he thought was a compromise conservatives would buy on to. i think now both sides are
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playing a very very risky and dangerous game here. the american public believes the department of homeland security should be open. that's without debate. now, each side has backed into a corner. you saw democrats voting against this because they don't want a short term measure. but when you step back from it the american public is going to look at this and at this point, with a bunch of democrats voting no they have given the republicans the opportunity to say well you were responsible for shutting down the department of homeland security just as much as the democrats are now saying to the republicans. so the public while the majority of the public in our poll a week or so ago said they would have blamed the republicans over president obama, i think now the democrats have put themselves a little bit at risk here because so many of them voted against this to push the republicans in a corner. >> dana i understand you have congressman steve israel one of the democratic leaders in the house of representatives. ask him how he feels about the fact that the department of
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homeland security could be shut down at least partially at midnight tonight, in part because of almost all of the democrats voting at least to keep the funding going for another three weeks, the democrats voted against that. >> reporter: that's right. that's precisely why i asked the congressman to come over. thank you very much. this is what i have been saying to wolf that you run a risk as a democrat, and all of the democrats who voted against the short term bill as being blamed for shutting down the department of homeland security. i know that you are trying to make a point, but at a certain point, don't you also have to keep the department running? >> we are not trying to make a point. we are trying to get one full year of funding for the department of homeland security. we told the republicans every single democrat will vote for a one-year funding bill just bring it to the floor. it's not too late. they can bring that to the floor literally in the next few minutes. they will have every single democratic vote. the american people can know that we have a homeland security budget that's not political, that's clean, and that allows
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for planning for the next year. >> reporter: it's a high stakes game of chicken you are playing here. >> it is a game but it's a game the republicans have played. if it weren't for their obsession with the presidential executive order on immigration, this bill would have passed. this is the last bill that should be subject to partisanship. they have insisted on trying to nullify an executive order on immigration because they have a disagreement with the president on that. they are entitled to the disagreement. they are not entitled to play games with homeland security. i don't mind them being dumb. i mind them being dangerously dumb. >> reporter: thank you very much. i appreciate it. wolf as we finish talking, i will try to get a republican. i can tell you that republican staffers and others have been walking by here going to john boehner's office trying to figure out what their next move is. they don't have one yet. >> it's still nupup in the air. this is one of the reasons the american public when they are asked their attitudes about the united states congress they have got -- it's usually within the margin of error whether
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anyone likes the united states congress. >> i don't even think lots of members of the united states congress like the congress right now. it's down to singling digit approval rating. this is exactly why. dana was pointing out to steve israel the democrats have put themselves at some risk here. this is a game they are playing. they trying to push the republicans up against the wall and we understand that you know the republicans don't like the president's immigration plan -- executive order, they want to defund it they don't want to spend any money on it. everybody kind of understands that. but at a certain point, wolf, it's not a political game anymore. this is the department of homeland security. this is important. do they want to by the way, as a senior democrat said to me yesterday, do republicans want to close down the department of homeland security and now i think that question has to be asked to the democrats as well while the prime minister of israel is here who will be talking about iran sanctions, who will be talking about
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israel's security american security? how embarrassing would that be for the united states? that's a question i think that republicans are probably talking about right now, as are democrats. i would think the democrats have made their political point. they played their political game. maybe now they can convince a couple dozen members on both sides to do something to fund the department of homeland security. >> they have six hours and 38 minutes left before funding for the department of homeland security runs out. michelle kosinski are you still with us at the white house? >> reporter: yes. >> let's talk about, i don't know if the president is getting ready to make a statement, if he is going to come into the briefing room is he going to address this issue. jeh johnson, secretary of homeland security we invited him to join us to hear what he has to say, because the ramifications of no funding will be enormous. first of all, hundreds of thousands of employees potentially won't get paid many of them will have to work but are not going to get paid at least in the interim until they come up with some funding, but a
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whole bunch of others thousands of other employees, many of them in critically important issues they will be furloughed. they won't even go to work. they won't be paid if you will. what's the attitude over there at the white house? do you expect to hear from top officials, maybe even the president himself? >> reporter: we do. i'm surprised that we haven't heard at least from senior administration officials at this point reacting to what just happened. so surely we should get at least a statement. it's possible that the president will come out and speak. we don't know for sure that that will happen but i would say for the most part the white house has let the department of homeland security pretty much speak for itself on this issue. even in terms of the importance and the risk of a shutdown. for many days it was asked directly of the white house what are the effects really going to be especially since so many essential employees will still have to work what are the effects, what are the risks here. they would refer to dhs, outlining some of those. in the past couple days as this
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has really come down to thewire although we haven't heard directly from the president, we have seen the white house develop a tougher tone on this saying yes, there is a risk. >> stand by for a moment. steny hoyer is joining us, the democratic congressman from maryland, number two democrat in the house of representatives. mr. leader thanks for joining us. what do you think? what's going to happen now? >> well the majority leader just said that we are going to be having further votes which is good. my advice to the majority leader and to the republicans would be bring up a bipartisan bill. that's what the senate ultimately did, and funded the department of homeland security until the end of the fiscal year. that's what we ought to do. we can do that in a bipartisan fashion on behalf of the national security of this country. and i am hopeful that that's what will happen. >> have you and kevin mccarthy, the majority leader in the house of representatives, have you had a conversation since the failure of this three-week extension? >> no we have not at this point
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in time. i don't know whether he's going to call me but i would be glad to talk to him and we will give bipartisan support and democrats will vote overwhelmingly, almost unanimously, if not unanimously, for the senate bill which is hr 861 here. we have a house bill that mirrors the senate bill. that can pass and will pass easily. we ought to bring that to the floor. >> are you sure it would pass the senate version would pass? i know almost all of the democrats would vote for it but a lot of republicans won't. are you convinced you can get the 218 votes to pass what mitch mcconnell put forward in the senate? >> yes. absolutely. we had 12 republicans vote for the clean senate bill effectively earlier today. so that gets you to 200 and i'm convinced that we can get on the other side i think there are certainly 30 responsible
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republicans who have spoken out very strongly that the rational thing to do the common sense thing to do the right thing to do for the american people is to pass the senate bill. we have a house version of that so we passed the house version, senate to senate i am absolutely confident they would pass that by unanimous consent. >> let's say the speaker of the house and the majority leader john boehner, kevin mccarthy decide they are not going to want to put the senate passed legislation up for an up or down vote in the house of representatives. isn't it better to at least get a three-week extension of the funding rather than see the department of homeland security effectively shut down tonight? >> nobody wants to see the department of homeland security shut down. that is why senator mcconnell decided after four attempts to do what the republicans in the house of representatives tried to do today, senator mcconnell came to the common sense conclusion that was not going to work and the responsible thing to do was to fund in a bipartisan way homeland security
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for the balance of the year. i would hope that leader mccarthy would follow leader mcconnell's formula on getting us to where we need to be and then there's more than enough time to debate the grievances that the republicans have with what they think is an action by the president of the united states that was not consistent with law. they can introduce legislation, they control the senate and the house, they can pass legislation. the issue here is we ought not to go home tonight, let it be very clear, we ought not to go home tonight without funding the homeland security as the senate has done earlier this week. that shows the path and they ought to take it. >> let me just be precise, congressman. it's either the house passes or takes up the senate version of the funding for the department of homeland security or it's shut down. there is no in between, no additional compromises that may
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be on the table, something that you would be willing to extend maybe not for three weeks but maybe six weeks, nine weeks, something along those lines, so that maybe in the process, cooler heads might prevail? >> well in the process, what senator mcconnell was found was once they had the bills on the house floor that didn't pass senator mcconnell did what was the rational reasonable common sense thing to do. he went across the aisle and said look we have a disagreement we are not going to solve it let's fund the department of homeland security and 68 senators voted to do that. i'm sure that we would have a similar majority here to do the same thing. that's what we ought to do. that's what i'm hopeful we will do. that's what i certainly will support. >> one final point, though. we heard from our white house correspondent michelle kosinski. they said at the white house if the president had no other option but to sign into law the three week extension, he reluctantly would have gone
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ahead and signed that in order to avoid a shutdown of the department of homeland security. would he have been doing the right thing from your perspective? >> i think if the bill had gotten to him in that form i think signing it would have been proper for him to do. what is improper is to pretend that the situation's going to be different 21 days from now or you mentioned six weeks or two months, that the situation will be different. the situation's not going to change. harry reid has made that very very clear. so that we ought not to present the president with that option. what we ought to present the president with is the bill that the senate passed with over two-thirds majority than we can pass with a majority in this house. >> steny hoyer, the number two democrat in the house of representatives, we will stay in close touch with you. obviously the stakes here in the united states as far as homeland security are concerned, enormous right now. thanks very much for joining us. >> you bet. thank you, wolf. there's huge breaking news
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breaking news coming in from russia. take a look at this. russia state news agency just announced that the prominent russian opposition leader boris nemtsov has been shot and killed by an unknown assailant. nemtsov was russia's deputy prime minister under president yeltsin in the 1990s. he was one of the current president vladimir putin's most vocal critics. our senior international correspondent fred ple, titgen is joining us on the phone. >> reporter: very shocking developments here on a friday night. we are trying to get additional information as to what exactly happened. there are several things that we do know and that apparently the shooting happened very close to the kremlin, very close to vladimir putin's office. it appears to have happened on a bridge that leads towards st. basil cathedral in the center of
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moscow. that's one of the things that makes this bizarre. that's an area where on a friday evening there will be a lot going on. there's a lot of traffic, there is also normally a lot of people walking around there as well. the latest that we have from the police is that apparently he was shot by an unknown assailant, they say, four times. we do know that one of his close friends and another opposition figure has been at the scene since then has seen and confirmed that the person who was killed is indeed boris nemtsov. at this point in time police say they are trying and looking for the assailant and at this point, what we have from them is they say there are several what they call operatives and investigators on the scene which seems to indicate they are trying to look and see who might be behind all this. but of course this is a huge event here in moscow and it also comes at a very pivotal time because it's only one day away from a very big opposition rally that was supposed to happen
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here of course criticizing vladimir putin, criticizing the economic crisis and of course also the foreign policy crisis that this country is in at the moment. so this is certainly going to stir a lot of questioning, if you will from the opposition here in this country. >> you know it's pretty shocking when you think about this one of the main opposition leaders, boris nemtsov, shot and killed in moscow. he gave an interview to cnn's anthony bourdain last year. i want to read a couple sentences what he told anthony bourdain speaking of russia right now, this is the former deputy prime minister of russia he said this. he said this is a country of corruption. and if you have business you are in a very unsafe situation. everybody can press you and destroy your business. that's it. this is the system. and he goes on to really, really criticize what's going on. i sensed i remember watching that interview and i have seen other interviews he's given.
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this is a guy who was worried about his own safety and obviously tonight, he has been shot and killed. tell us a little bit about boris nemtsov, fred. >> reporter: yes, certainly. certainly he was very worried about his safety and certainly he was one of the most outspoken critics of the system here and of vladimir putin as well. he criticized the system very frequently especially around the sochi olympics criticized what he called was corruption there. he had also been detained several times. he had been sentenced to jail several times. the last time that he was in prison was in 2011. all of them for criticizing the putin government. he was a prominent figure at the opposition rallies here in moscow and in other places criticizing the putin government. this is certainly someone who has had run-ins with the establishment here with the people he was criticizing and certainly someone who paid a very heavy price. he is also someone very prominent in russian politics in
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general. you mentioned he was deputy prime minister in the yeltsin administration in the late '90s and of course was someone who many people believed might become prime minister himself afterwards. but then when putin became president that didn't happen and he took on more of an opposition role. since 2007 he was arrested several times by authorities here all of it because of opposition activity. now, the other thing that he did, he also founded an opposition movement solidarity movement as he called it which frequently held rallies to frequently criticize vladimir putin and his government and generally the sort of power system here in russia. so this was certainly someone who has had his brushes here with the law, with the establishment here has paid a heavy price so far and was certainly someone as you said who feared for his safety who also of course feared for his freedom as well. and again, this comes at a very
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pivotal time right before that big opposition rally. it will be interesting to see what all of this is going to mean for the opposition movement here in russia especially at this very key time right now, especially as we are looking at this time right now with the ongoing crisis in ukraine, with the international sanctions against the putin government which in many ways putin himself hunkering down shooting against the west and of course at this time not -- or wants less to have internal criticism. newspapers have been shut down in russia there have been web sites that have been shut down here in russia in the past couple months. this certainly comes at a very very important time and is sure to stir a big reaction from the opposition. >> comes at a critically important time. boris nemtsov, former deputy prime minister of russia shot and killed assassinated tonight in moscow. jim sciutto is our chief national security correspondent. big picture right now, this is an awful time in u.s./russian
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relations, russian relations with the european union, with nato and all of a sudden this happens. given what's going on in ukraine right now, the u.s. the european fears that russia is moving to go ahead and formally annex huge chunks of ukraine, this is a very worrisome development. >> no question. this is a dangerous time between russia and its relations with the west no question. we see that playing out in ukraine. and a very dangerous time inside russia if you are in any way a member of the opposition or a critic of the government. this has been going on for a number of years. you see this with its treatment of a previous challenger to putin, put in prison for a number of years as you remember. i covered the case of alexander litvinienko who was a critic of the regime of the government there. he was poisoned with polonium. he latter dieder died. you have had a number of cases like this. it's interesting in nemtsov's
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case. you mentioned his interview with our own anthony bourdain a number of months ago. two weeks ago he gave an interview where he said he was afraid that vladimir putin would kill him. of course, we are many miles away from having any sort of evidence that he was behind this but that gives you a taste of what opposition figures feared the treatment would be. these are not unfounded fears based on the treatment of others who have risen to either challenge or criticize the leadership. other reactions coming in. we see senator john mccain just tweeting a few minutes ago, saying he is very saddened to hear of the death. he had a long relationship with nemtsov. also another prominent opposition figure in russia the former chess player as you remember gary kasparov who became a politician. i covered him during a campaign where he was challenging putin as president. he said that in russia he said quoting, in fact nemtsov, he
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said nemtsov told him in russia you have to live a long time see change. now he will never see change in russia. you are seeing a very emotional but also a very worried reaction from members of the opposition there because the worry is very real and it's real for a reason. >> it's a great patriot, opposition leader, very critical of the corruption that's going on in russia right now. very critical of putin himself in that interview with anthony bourdain he did offer some optimism. he said this. he said tony referring to anthony bourdain i was born here 54 years ago. this is my country. the russian people are a bit of a trouble. russian court doesn't work. russian education declines every year. i believe that russia has a chance to be free has a chance it's difficult, but we must do it. and now he is dead. >> think of all the millions of dollars that the u.s. invested in russia after the fall of the wall the fall of the soviet union, for the express purpose of building civil society in russia. and you had much progress over the years. the decades in the '90s.
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but we have seen that dismantled in the last decade under vladimir putin. in a number of ways through corruption no question through putting a clamp on any sort of independent media in russia. we certainly see that play out in the ukraine crisis. if you watch russian accounts of what's going on in ukraine, it is a different reality than the way that we cover it and ask questions about it here. we have seen that all dismantled over time. there is no credible political opposition there in terms of having a chance of actually unseating vladimir putin. this is something the u.s. tried to get involved with tried to make a difference and frankly invested a lot of diplomatic and financial capital and we are seeing that all fall apart. >> shocking development in moscow tonight. we will stay on top of it. we will go back to fred pleitgen and get much more. the russian opposition leader boris nemtsov has been shot and killed. he is a top opponent of the russian president vladimir putin. also the u.s. vowing to track down the isis killer known
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in 2009. we're talking nearly six years ago when he made a trip that they suspected might have been really truly intended to take into somalia and join the group the al qaeda group there. in the years since then they questioned him, detained him a number of times. this over several years. there were reports that they tried to recruit him as an informant inside the islamic community to inform on other possible islamic extremist in the country. he said no he would not do that. clearly, they had something that worried him over the time and the question now, of course as he has been identified is how many signals were missed and why. >> this -- >> reporter: his face is always obscured. but new details show that mohammed emwazi jihadi john was a familiar face to british authorities for more than five years. the scrutiny began in 2009 when
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he was detained in tanzania on suspicion he intended to travel to somalia to join al shabab. both british and dutch investigators interviewed him, say friends and his then fiancee. there was a community of people in west london who got excited about the conflict happening in somalia. we saw a number of them going out there to fight. some rose up to senior positions within al shabab. he seems to have known some of the people. >> reporter: authorities detain him again in 2010 preventing him from returning to his birthday kuwait. i had a job waiting for me and marriage to get started, mohammed emwazi wrote in a june 2010 e-mail to cage. in 2011 british court documents obtained by the bbc claim that mohammed emwazi associated with members of an islamic extremist group that funnels money to
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somalia. he was never charged with a crime. today british prime minister david cameron defended britain's domestic intelligence service. >> in my almost five years experience of prime minister i think they are incredibly impressive hard working, dedicated, courageous and effective and protecting our country. all of the time they are having to make incredibly difficult judgments. >> reporter: they make those in the face of daunting numbers. britain has thousands of suspected jihadis and sympathize sympathizers sympathizers. a senior british diplomat says the profile of recruits has expanded to include rich and poor educate and uneducate and more and more men and women. mohammed emwazi's case has an alarming parallel to the attacks in paris. the gunman who stormed charlie hebdo had been known to french security services for years and put on then taken off
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surveillance only months before their deadly rampage. u.k. authorities lost track of mohammed emwazi in 2013 when after he changed his name he then attempted to return to his birthplace in kuwait. he left the country and it was determined in 2013 that he indeed had gone on to syria. of course, it was in august of last year when he first appeared in one of those beheading videos. >> it wouldn't have been that difficult for him to get from the united kingdom somewhere in europe, take a train to turkey and cross into syria? >> that's the thing. that's what we have seen so many other times, whether the british girls we have seen recently other people from france elsewhere in europe and people attempting from the u.s. now. >> i want to bring philip mudd our analyst in as well. were there major blunders that were made? the u.k. had this guy in the
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radar for four or five years. >> jim will owe me on this because my answer is no. the reason is very simple and straightforward. intelligence is not evidence. i can watch him on facebook. i can watch him talk to bad people overseas. i can watch him travel to bad areas. that is not the same. that sense of smell an intelligence officer has to say he's a bad guy, to bring in a court of law and prove it. intelligence isn't evidence. that's what you see in this case. >> that's a good point. >> reporter: no question. this is the challenge that intelligence authorities have here in the u.s. like they have had in europe. you can have snippets of information that give you suspicion. we live in a land of law. you have to follow the law to put these guys in prison. >> same in the u.k. stand by. we have more breaking news coming into "the situation room." this time from capitol hill. a republican effort to temporarily keep the department of homeland security in funding has now failed. the money runs out at midnight just about six hours or so from now. the clock is ticking.
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happening now gasfunding, homeland security funding is about to run out. will ask senator lindsey graham about the rangwrangling going on. how was jihadi john able to join up with isis when he was on
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britain's radar for year snz new questions are being asked that the terrorist's identify has been revealed. putin's opponent assassinated. who was behind the death of russia's opposition leader? blood and political intrigue in moscow. more buzz inside the pentagon that a major offensive against isis may be delayed. why the is u.s. military sending mixed signals? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." breaking this hour crisis for homeland security here in the united states. the democrat's money runs out in a few hours. on capitol hill right now there's a desperate scramble to try to find a way out of this mess. an 11th hour attempt to extend funding for three weeks failed a little while ago. this as the terror threat from isis is front and center.
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u.s. and british officials are vowing to bring jihadi john to justice hours after the isis killer's real name was revealed to the world. i will talk about that with republican senator lindsey graham. he is a key member of the senate armed services committee, a leading voice within his party. he is standing by live. our correspondents and analysts are standing by. they are covering all the news breaking right now. first let's go dana bash. she's up on capitol hill. the breaking news dana less than six hours, the department of homeland security won't have enough money to keep all of america safe. what's going on? >> reporter: what's going on is that if you look down the hall behind me that is where the house speakers' office is. he and his fellow house republican leaders are trying to figure out what plan b is is there a plan b that they can put together to avoid the department of homeland security shutting down at midnight. what happened just about an hour ago is the vote that they
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thought was going to pass to do a short-term three-week bill keeping the department running failed failed in part because they had 50 republicans who rebelled and said they didn't want to vote for funding the department without stopping the immigration plan. you had all the democrats, practically all the democrats i should say vote in protest saying they are not going to vote on anything short-term because they are trying to force the republicans' hand force them to bring up what the senate passed earlier today which is a full funded bill from now all the way the end of the fiscal year. so now we're in a waiting game. i was told by a republican source that they are talking about maybe just doing a one week spending bill a one week bill to keep the department running so that they don't get in the situation where the department completely shuts down. unclear if they can have the votes for that either.
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again, they are huddling back there. we don't know exactly how this is going to end. >> there's no official word from the speaker of the house john boehner or the majority leader kevin mccarthy? they are in closed door meetings trying to come up with a strategy is that right? >> reporter: that's right. you saw it live on air. the chaos on the house floor and the scramble of the leaders and other members to come off the floor to go behind closed doors to try to figure out what their next move is. that's still going on. >> they have five hours 57 minutes to go. a lot is at stake. stand by. what will it mean for the united states of america when homeland security funding runs out at midnight? less than six hours from now. let's bring in pamela brown. she has this part of the story. >> reporter: dhs says this will have a significant impact. although vital functions will be performed. an official i spoke with said 30,000 employees would be furloughed including 5,500 tsa
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agents. essential employees will continue to work we're told. also the more immediate impact from this wolf according to this official the dhs run federal law enforcement academy which trains would have to send home trainees beginning this weekend. dls says this would prevent new hires from becoming operational. also many of the agencies includesing tsa and the u.s. coast guard will not get paychecks. dhs saying many employees rely on the paychecks. this will impact them as well. important to note essential employees for the time being will continue to work. >> pamela stand by. i want to go to the white house. our correspondent michelle kosinski is over there. what are you learning? >> reporter: the white house has been mum on this latest development. it looks like they will wait and see. the night is not over yet. we don't know where this is going to end or exactly how. not even a statement from the white house. the president just spoke at an event at the department of
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justice. he didn't mention this subject at all. it was a separate thing for him. we did hear from him this week though talking about republicans holding the department of homeland security hostage. as a result our national security. he surprised everybody on monday when he came right out and said that this will have a direct impact on national security. the white house has been hesitating to go that far up until the president said it. so since then they have been outlining the ways that this is harming our country and harming congress as well. they have taken no -- they have taken every opportunity throughout this to slam house republicans, especially really putting the responsibility fully on the shoulders of house speaker john boehner. the white house has called this an abject failure of republican leadership saying they were falling down on the job and that this is not even a partisan dispute anymore. they say it's now a party dispute, wolf. >> we will see if there's a
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statement from the president or the press secretary or someone at the white house. let us know right away the clock clearly is ticking. there's other breaking news we're following right now. very disturbing news coming in from russia. a prominent opponent of the russian president putin has been shot and killed on the streets of moscow. boris nemtsov was russia's deputy prime minister under boris yeltsin. he was outspoken about the corruption in russia. very critical of putin. he was always afraid including in recent weeks, for his own security. >> no question. the more the details come out, the more shocking. shot seven to eight times from a car. it looks like a gangland assassination. it's government security services or gangs that have guns. the impression among critics is
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something like this happens, that someone must have given the order. of course there's no evidence of that. there is real reason to have fear if you are a member of the opposition or a critic of the government because in the past many of these people have lost their lives. i covered the case of a man living in london but he was poisoned with radioactive materials on the streets of london. one of the people who was implicated in the murder ended up a member of the russian duma. you have this kind of past which creates the fear for members of the opposition. as you note wolf a couple of weeks before this killing, nemtsov himself said he feared for his life from putin. we don't have evidence that anybody from the regime is behind this. but he had that fear. he expressed that fear publically. he was a very prominent voice, a very outspoken voice against the government. he was one of the authors of a report on corruption last year which was a controversy leading up to that.
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this say powerful moment. it's a worrisome moment in the country. it's a sign of how far civil society has fallen in that country. as you mentioned a short time ago, wolf during a time when russia and the west are very much in a dangerous period over the situation in the ukraine. >> a tense situation in ukraine with the u.s. the europeans accusing russia of actually invading and taking over huge chunks of ukraine. nemtsov spoke with our own anthony bourdain last year. i want to play a little clip. listen to the man who was assassinated tonight. >> critics of the government critics of putin, bad things seem to happen to them. yes, unfortunately, it represent russia of 19th century. not of 21st. >> critics of putin, beware. putin was accused of corruption and spent ten years in prison and labor camps.
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another accused state security services of organizing a cue to put put nn power. he was poisoned by a lethal dose of radioactive polonium. the former ukraineian president poisoned and nearly killed by a toxic dose of dioxin. i'm not saying official russian bodies had anything do with it. but it's mighty suspicious. >> i don't think you need to be a conspiracy theorist to say whoever did this wanted everyone to know who done it. everybody understands. >> of course. >> and everybody is meant to understand. >> yeah. everybody understands. everybody understands everything in this country. >> very chilling. he clearly was outspoken, very courageous a patriotic russian. wasn'ted to see a better russia. he worried about list own safety. saw that clearly come through in the interview with anthony bourdain and other interviews as
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well. now he is dead. >> he worried about list own safety for good reason. yet he kept his voice up. this is a dangerous thing to do in russia. many other critics of the regime feel forced to leave the country. they leave for their own safety. did he not. he kept speaking out. most recently with the olympics, but in two days he was going to lead a mass protest march in the country. that timing very suspect. keep in mind in terms of the imagery here he was shot and killed just 200 yards or so from the kremlin. again, no connection there. but just the idea that he was so close to that body to the organization to the government he criticized when he was shot and killed seven or eight times from a car. really just a remarkable and sad moment in the country's history. >> we have no idea who the assailant was. we do know that boris nemtsov is dead. more on this breaking news. there's other breaking news we're following. including the growing terror threat in the united states and around the world.
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the united states and britain are vowing to hunt down the cold blooded isis killer known as jihadi john. the londoner who has brutally murdered western host anl sagehostages. mohammed emwazi was known to british security for many many years. brian todd is digging into this. what are you learning? >> reporter: this man is isis' best known killer a cold blooded brit. tonight we have new details about jihadi john who we believe say man named mohammed emwazi. new information on his alleged efforts to support the vicious al qaeda affiliate al shabab and how he went from being a privileged school boy to a murderer in the name of jihad. he may have beheaded hostages on camera himself. but jihadi john the man we now believe is 26-year-old mohammed emwazi was once a preppie british school boy from a middle class family. he graduated from a large well regarded university in london
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with a computer programming degree. how and why did a young man with his prospects join isis? a group for suspected radicals says it started when he went to tanzania in 20090 take a safari. he was subject to hostile questioning five times, mostly by british security services was once worked over by interrogators when he returned from kuwait. >> on one occasion he was roughed by the police. he was strangled by an officer. >> reporter: officials have no comment. analysts who know isis recruiting say this about the claim that harassment from authorities turned mohammed emwazi into jihadi john. >> it's an absurd claim. it was not the cause of his radicalization. the reason the intelligence services harassed him was because they suspected him of wanting to join al shabab in
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somalia. >> reporter: papers say he was part of a group of extremists called the north london boys who allegedly funneled money and recruits to al shabab. >> some raise up to senior positions. mohammed emwazi seems to have known some of the people. >> reporter: he went to syria in 2012. analysts say it's likely he joined another group first, then isis. he had at least one skill attractive to isis. >> to make your mark and to become important within the organization it's important to speak arabic. that would have made him stan out d out. >> reporter: another characteristic that would have moved him up a thirst for violence. every expect we spoke to said the idea that harassment from british authorities turned this man into a killer is absurd.
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martin luther king and malcolm x were harassed and they never beheaded anyone. >> let's get analysis. joining us lindsey graham of south carolina the leading member of the senate armed services committee and maybe a potential 2016 republican presidential candidate. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> a lot of americans are confused. we have a lot of terror threats facing this country and within less than six hours, money for the department of homeland security is going to run out? is this possible in the united states of america? >> i hope not. because the concerns being expressed by the president, who i don't agree with much at all, he is right. to shut down the homeland -- department the homeland security for one minute in this environment would be incredibly irresponsible and puts our nation more at risk. that's a non-starter for me. >> you passed legislation in the senate mitch mcconnell you supported it to go ahead and fund the department fully until the end of the current fiscal year the end of september. the speaker of the house doesn't want to bring that language up
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on the floor of the house of representatives because he knows a lot of the members don't like it. it has nothing to do with immigration, stuff like that. what would you say to the speaker right now? they failed to get a three-week extension. >> 80% of the republican party would vote for an extension. 99% of the democratic party voted against a three-week extension. my advice would be for the democrats, help speaker boehner with an extension. then i will put the blame on us. to my colleagues in house freswho are frustrated with the amnesty, i understand but shutting down homeland security is not the right way to vent the frustration. the case is in court. >> you are appealing the democrats change your mind. give the speaker a three-week extension. let the department be funded for three weeks and then what? over the next three weeks, what's going to happen? >> appealing to my republican
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colleagues, abandon this idea that we're going to de-fund the department of homeland security unless the executive order is repealed legislatively. we don't have the votes in the senate. to me the best thing to do for the republican and democratic party is let the courts work its will. one judge ruled the orders is unconstitutional. there's a stay on the president's action. that's the right path to take. do not shut down dhs today or in the future. >> the republicans in the house, they could do that tonight. they have almost six hours left. that's enough time to do what you want them to do over the next three weeks. >> it's hard for me to blame the republican party when 80% of my colleagues are ready to fund the department for three weeks and 99% of the democrats are refusing. eventually this desire by republicans in the house to use dhs funding to repeal the order is not the right path to take in my view for the country or the party. >> you basically, whether
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tonight or within the next three weeks, you want your republican friends to do what you have done and pass a clean bill? >> yes. i want the democrats tonight to help speaker boehner not to shut down dhs in about five hours. then i hope my colleagues in the house will abandon this desire to shut down dhs as a way to repeal the executive order. i don't think it's going to work. we don't have the votes in the senate. let the court act. >> we have more to talk about including the enormous terror threats that are out there right now. plus an assassination in the streets of moscow. a leading opposition leader. it's shocking news. stand by. much more with the republican senator right after this.
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we're back with republican senator lindsey graham following breaking news. homeland security funding here in the united states about to run out. there's no solution in sight after the house of representatives rejected a three-week extension bill just a little while ago. stand by senator. we have more to discuss on that. we're also learning more about now -- right now about a likely delay in the start date for a major coalition ground offensive against isis in iraq. barbara starr is getting new information. what are you learning? >> reporter: tonight, there is a dramatic shift in the u.s. military assessment about perhaps the most significant linchpin in the success for the u.s. in iraq. iraqi forces liberated two villages north of baghdad searching out isis militants.
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but now, a turn around in u.s. military thinking about when these iraqi troops will be ready to begin their largest combat operation, trying to retake mosul, iraq's second largest city from isis control. >> we haven't laid a date certain down here at the pentagon. >> reporter: days ago, a u.s. military official ordered to brief journalists said the battle could begin in april. insis insis tent there's no change from ash carter. >> there have been assessments literally all over the calendar. i get that. i'm not blaming the media on this. >> reporter: before any fight for motionsul begins the u.s. military needs to step up efforts. an official tells cnn, 5,000 iraqi troops will be trained by the u.s. in the next two weeks. battle for mosul needs more than
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20,000. more overhead surveillance is essential to find precise locations of isis' growing defenses around the city and the location of civilians. the defense secretary may have to recommend a small number of u.s. ground forces to help target those isis positions. but the top u.s. intelligence officer expressing deep doubt about the iraqi military's abilities even after months of u.s. help. >> they have challenges clearly with command and control, with leadership logistics. so they have a whole range of issues there that need to be attended to. >> reporter: in fact they are now estimating that the iraqi military might need six to eight to nine months before that entire force would be ready for combat operations across the country. it makes one realize now while there -- why there's a good deal of doubt that they can move
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against mosul in the coming weeks. >> it's interesting. i wonder how isis will react to this. they clearly monitor what's going on here in the united states. barbara, thank you very much. let's get back to senator lindsey graham, a key member of the senate armed services committee. what's going on over here? they brief reporters, u.s. military central command last week get ready for an offensive starting in ing ining in april or may. not so fast. what happen snz. >> i welcome the reconsideration because i had doubts. the iraqi government and people are demanding that mosul be liberated. put yourself in the shoes of the defense minister in iraq who is a sunni from mosul. he wants his town liberated from isil isil. that's a need and a desire. but the capacity doesn't exist. this iraqi security force is basically a shia army. the army has been basically fractured. if you go into mosul ill prepared could you have a war
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between the iraqi security forces and sunni tribes in mosul, not just isil unless we're in the mix. the way to fix this is to have a larger american ground component to make sure the iraqi security forces have the capacity to win. >> have ii have limited confidence in the iraqi military. they laid down weapons and ran away. >> because the iraqi security forces became a shia army and the shia iraqi security forces were not going to die in sunni land mosul. so the army became sectarian. not only is it numbers you have to generate you have to get a functioning army that would be welcome by people in mosul. it has to be a more iraqi army less of a shia army. we're aways away from there. there's no substitute for a significant american support element to be successful. that's where i blame president
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obama. he is trying to do this on the cheap. >> this guy mohammed emwazi he was watched by british surveillance for years. he wound up working with isis in syria and beheading all these people on videotape. was there a major intelligence or national security blunder some place in the u.k. that allows this guy to slip out? >> i don't know if it's a blunder. all the people who did the paris attack were on watch list. we have had a lot of people resort to terrorism that we had on watch list. this was just one guy. here is what i worry about the most. the number of foreign fighters going to iraq and syria with western passports are overwhelming our ability to track them. we're losing control of this problem. the longer it tables tokes to degrade and destroy isil the larger we could get hit here. breaking news boris nemtsov
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shot and killed on streets of moscow. he was worried about his safety in recent interviews. the big scheme of things russia's relations with the u.s., europeans right now awful because of ukraine. >> this is putin's russia. every institution of democracy has been destroyed. opposition voices are silenced. in this case murdered. he is an autocratic dictator. he is getting away with dismembering his name at the ukraine. our response to putin has not created enough cost because he is not changing his behavior. this is a symptom of what happens in a police state. we have to understand who we're dealing with. he will continue to do these things until the cost gets too high. >> we don't know who killed boris nemtsov, but you are blaming putin. >> when you oppose the government bad things happen to you. so we know the environment for this to happen exists. it's not much of a stretch to
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understand that more of this is coming as long as putin runs his country this way. >> senator graham thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> very disturbing information all across the board. just ahead, the search for teenagers who fled canada to join isis. were they radicalized at their community college? [meow mix jingle slowly and quietly plucks] right on cue. [cat meows] ♪meow, meow, meow, meow...♪ it's more than just a meal it's meow mix mealtime. with great taste and 100% complete nutrition, it's the only one cats ask for by name. it's happening. today, more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir® an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® comes in flextouch® the only prefilled insulin pen with no push-button extension. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus®
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breaking now, urgent concern for christians captured by isis. growing fears they may face the same fate as other christians taken by the terrorists namely beheading. let's get more with tom fuentes, bob baer our national security analyst peter bergen. peter, the christians that are being rounded up not just men, women, children the elderly, what is going on right now? are they trying to send a message to all christians in syria and iraq and throughout the middle east get out? we're coming after you. >> indeed they are. we have seen a great number of christians leaving iraq as a result of the civil war. we have seen them leaving syria. what's interesting from an islamic perspective is that christians are people of the book. they're not like the yazidis who
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muslims regard as a cult. isis is embarking on something that it would be enormously controversial in the islamic world, if they did murder these christians. >> it's a terrible situation. my heart goes out to the christians. it's not isolated. it's happening in bigger numbers than any of us anticipated and hundreds of thousands of christians have fled the areas. they are refugees in various countries. there's another very disturbing story, tom, you have been following in bangladesh. an american was there promoting human rights if you will. he was living in atlanta, georgia, went back to bangladesh and was walking around. some guy came over and simply hacked him with a machete to death. deeply injured his wife as well. what's going on here? >> good question. i think that we don't know if that's an extension of this worldwide effort to kill anybody that's not on the side of isis or if it's a different group
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behind this. we have used the phrase in this country, if you're not with us you are against us. they mean that. they say it and mean it. if you are not with us we will kill you. and they do. >> and there's the other very disturbing story, bob baer that we're following out of canada. authorities are looking for four teenagers who actually may have flown out of canada to turkey to cross into syria to join up with isis. there are reports some of the kids may have been radicalized by classes being taught at their local community college. obviously, that's a very disturbing development. give us your nal sis. when i heard that, i said could that be happening here in the united states as well? >> you have to look at it this way. these people are not -- the teachers and mosques aren't necessarily recruiting to go to syria. what they are doing is they are posing the problem that islam is under attack and that all true
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muslims will defend it. and interpret it as you will. for teenagers who don't understand the rest of it, for hem it them it means go fight for isis or attacks in the united states. so it makes it very difficult for law enforcement to pinpoint these recruiters because they are saying all good muslims will defend islam at this point. it's time for jihad. that in itself is not a criminal message of any sort. trying to police this up is really really hard. >> guys, i want you to stand by. awful, awful news across the board. to find out more about the escalating battle against isis specifically what you can do to help protect iraqi children affected by the violence visit cnn.com/impact. more breaking news ahead, including details of the british man identified as jihadi john. how did he join isis despite being watched by british
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right to breaking news. the house of representatives failed to pass a spending bill to keep money for the department of homeland security. dana bash has the very latest. the clock is ticking. five hours 18 minutes to go. >> reporter: the clock is ticking. there is no resolution from the hall back there where the speaker is meeting with his republican aides and colleagues possibly they are talking about doing a seven-day bill to keep the department running. we don't know. >> we haven't gotten word. they have only a little more than five hours to go before money for the department of homeland security runs out. don't go away. there's other news we're following, including the former florida governor jeb bush. he had some explaining to do today to republican conservatives who don't believe this republican presidential prospect leans far enough to the right. brianna keilar is joining us with more. what's going on?
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>> reporter: maybe surprisingly jeb bush did pretty well here considering that this isn't really his crowd. the right wing of the republican party not so much a fan as other contenders. the distinction that a lot will make is that while you have scott walker who is surging in the polls lately has been side stepping questions, jeb bush really seemed confident answering questions and he seemed to project a strength. even though this was at times a tough crowd. jeb bush's appearance began with a small group of people walking out as he took the stage, frustrated by the idea of a bush dynasty. but bush faced down one of his biggest vulnerabilities in a race for the republican nomination defending his stance on immigration. >> there's no plan to deport 11 million people. we should give them a path to legal status where they work where they don't receive government benefits where they
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don't break the law, where they learn english and where they make a contribution to our society. >> applause followed though some no doubt was from supporteredsupporter ed s bussed in. you won't find many moderates on the issue of immigration. >> this is objectively speaking a tough crowd. because it tends to be the more conservative part. >> reporter: bush rejected being labeled a centrist emphasizing same-sex marriage. >> i believe in traditional marriage. >> reporter: abortion. >> i'm pro-life. >> reporter: marijuana. >> states should have the right. >> reporter: he distanced himself from his family. >> if i get beyond that and i run for president, i have to show what's in my heart. i have to show that i care about people about their future. it can't be about the past. it can't be about my mom and dad or my brother.
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>> reporter: many here are looking for a new name. >> i think he's just another republican. part of the royal family. two royal families clinton and bush. rrl rrl >> reporter: earlier, they shows their disdain for the establishment pick. >> any supporters of jeb bush? >> reporter: bush urged skep dicks not to write him off. >> for those that made an ooo sound -- i'm marking them down as neutral. i want to be your second choice. >> reporter: i think it was boo. that was his interpretation. when jeb bush was asked what kind of conservative he is he said he is a practicing reform minded conservative. that was an answer that stood in contrast to what mitt romney says in 2012 when he said he was severely conservative. >> i remember that vividly. stay with us. i want to bring in gloryia borger
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and dana bash. which jeb bush gloria did we see today? >> reporter: we saw both. i think we saw a man who was a member of a dynasty and was speaking before a crowd of people who were rable rousers. what he had to say was, i'm not my family. i believe what i believe. i think he stood by his immigration stance. he didn't back off his stance on dreamers. he didn't back off his stance on a pathway to legal status as he was very very careful to say. nor did he back off on his support for common core educational standards. so they packed the room with a lot of their supporters. he wasn't booed off the stage as some of the folks there might have done otherwise, which was pretty clever on their part. he came across as saying take me or leave me. but saying make me your second
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choice was an indication he knows they love rand paul but maybe they could look at him. >> a favorite of a lot of the republican establishment, big money republicans. how did he do as far as winning over some of the hard liners? >> reporter: look i think that he came across as pal atable to the hard liners with the way that he talked about the kind of conservative he is. he talked about the fact that he was a practicing reformer a conservative and rejected the idea of being a moderate. he is not a moderate. in no way is he a moderate. the question is whether or not he can convince enough of those hard liners or whether he has to. he is playing the long game. he is definitely said it himself in no uncertain terms, he is trying to win the primary by winning -- win the general by winning the primary. it's not an easy thing to do. he certainly i think, took a big positive first step in doing
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that here today. >> almost all of those republican perspective candidates they are taking really strong swipes at hillary clinton. listen to this. >> i believe hillary clinton's about did idication of responsible, her refusal to provide an answer for benghazi -- >> hillary clinton yesterday. >> i will mention a few names. we have gotten interesting answers. hillary clinton. >> foreign fund-raising. >> that's the issue of the clinton foundation getting money from foreign governments. is that becoming a major -- that is becoming a major talking point for republicans. how is the clinton camp reacting? >> reporter: it's not the clinton camp that's reacting to this, wolf. it's not hillary clinton herself. there hasn't been a chance to ask her these questions.
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we are hearing from the clinton foundation. there have been stories, one about a $500,000 donation from algeria following the haiti earthquake. that came while she was secretary of state and violated the agreement she brokered with the obama from algeria. that came while she was secretary of state and violated the agreement she brokered with the obama administration and the larger issue of since she left government the foundation has been taking millions and millions of dollars from these countries, some of which have bad records when it comes to women rights and human rights. you're hearing the foundation respond by saying this is a charity. this is doing good work. i think talking to people who support hillary clinton, do they think it's ideal this is out, does it look great for her? no. they'll say it doesn't look great but they think she'll be able to make the case and those around her will be able to make the case this is a charity that does good work and people will
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look past it. you have republicans trying to prove their mettle. they're dinging her showing they can take these shot against the clinton machine. >> stand by. we have much more we're watching. >> be sure to join dana. the former texas governor rick perry. state of the union airs sunday morning, 9:00 a.m.'re. much more on the breaking news after this. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis from the inside out... with humira. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain,
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serious premier, the wonder list. watch this. >> instead of packing food for this camping trip they brought bows bows and arrows. and spears made of bicycle spokes. the most stunning example of bounty of this waters comes when they grab a net. once it's in place, the catch is over in about 90 seconds.
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my goodness. >> that's not fishing. that's not fair. when i fish i have to drink beer for eight hours before i get one bite. look at this. i guess we have dinner. >> wow. what great pictures. bill is with us in "the situation room." what great photography, should i say. what was your favorite part of this shoot? >> there were so many. that place as i said to these people do you know you live inside a screen saver. that on a cold stressful days in america we fantasize about your life. i went there because there is an amazing little corner of the brink of change. they are deciding whether tourism is their ticket to a better life to better roads and hospitals and schools and flat screen tvs. the cell phone signal out there in the middle of the south pacific is stronger than manhattan. they have wi-fi. they know how we live. they want a taste of that.
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i wanted to go to this place and study change around the world. our planet is changing at such a dizzying inging rate. this is a great example of people right in the brink of choosing which way they want to go. >> it's called "the wonder list." tell us how you came up with that name. >> wonder is a noun and a verb. i have a little girl who turn my age. i wonder what will happen. will there still be tigers in the wild. will there be a dead sea in the jordan river. will there be little paradise islands like this without hotels and strip malls. it was ansen an amazing way to frame the way we live and celebrate the fantastic places as they are while we can. >> i know when you were there on that beautiful island they made
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their own cocktail of choice. seemed like a unique experience. >> it's cava. it comes from this tough jungle root that is made by the young men all gather around and chew it into a pulp. they spit it on the a banana leaf and take this goop and put nit an old flour sack use rain water, filter it and create a cocktail that's like a full body novacaine. you'll see my reaction. >> we're all looking forward to it. the wonder list premiers sunday night, 10:00 p.m. eastern. only here on cnn. remember you can always follow us on twitter. go ahead an tweet me at wolf blitzer. you can tweet the show.
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be sure to join us monday right here in "the situation room." you can watch us live or you can dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. thanks very much for watching. have a great weekend. erin burrnett outfront starts right now. next breaking news. the white house, the house votes no on funding homeland security. unless a last minute deal is reached the agency on the front lines and the war on terror will be shut down at midnight. one of leading critics of vladmir putin shot dead on a moscow street. who did it? george tekkai on the death of his long time friend. let's go out front.
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