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"the situation room." you can watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. i'll be back in an hour filling in for anderson. until then thanks very much for watching. breaking news. reports of junegunshots fired near the national security agency. president obama firing back at israeli prime minister netanyahu. who's right on the deal with iran? the justice department delivering a scathing report on the ferguson police department charging a pattern of racism and putting out internal e-mails with racist jokes about the president in them. we'll show you. let's go outfront.
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gunshots fired near the national security agency by washington, d.c. it's located in ft. meade, maryland which is 25 miles north of the nation's capitol. shorts were fired edd on a connected road in prince george county, maryland. investigators are trying to find out if the incidents are related. what have you learned? >> good evening. a cold and rainy night in washington and a bit of a spy mystery. these reports of shots fired near the national security agency spy mystery. the nsa one of most secretive agencies is in charge of decoding intercepts. like to talk about anything they do there. what if anything happened there. the nsa not talking about it. a spokesman telling us that nsa police along with other law en
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enforcement officials invest gats gaiting reports ha shots were fired and there may have been damage to one of the nsa buildings. there's no reports of any injuries. no one was hurt. they can't say anymore about it right now. they don't even know they say, if one of their building was struck by this gunfire. all of this is in a wooded area north of washington. there's going to be concern trying to find out what did happen if anything was there someone in the woods with a weapon. there's a will the of security around the nsa. a lot of security in those woods. very close look being taken tonight about what did happen there. thank you. the president firing back about
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netanyahu addressed a joint meeting of congress. president obama from the white house decided to fire back later in the day dismissing the much hyped speak. >> as far as i can tell there was nothing new. the prime minister didn't offer any viable alternatives. >> earlier netanyahu received a welcome that usually is the welcome gotten by the president of the united states at the state of the union. it was pretty incredible to watch this. lawmakers lining up to try to shake his hand. standing ovation. with more than 50 democrats boycotting the audience was overwhelming friendly interrupting the speech dozens of times with the state of the union. half the audience wasn't sitting there in protest. everybody was standing. all of this comes not long before the end of march deadline to reach the long term deal.
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>> reporter: netanyahu blasted a dell. >> it will all will guarantee that iran gets those weapon lots of them. that's why this deal is so bad. it doesn't block iran's path to the bomb. >> reporter: he got a huge reception here the white house not impressed. president obama didn't watch the speech but he did use nearly 15 minutes responding to it. >> the prime minister didn't offer any viable alternative. the alternative is no deal in which case iran will begin once again pursuing its nuclear program, accelerate its nuclear program without us having any
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insight into what they're doing and without constraint. >> reporter: netanyahu would not require iran to demolish any new facility. it will require a year of break out time. >> the world should demand that iran do three things. first, stop its aggression its neighbors in the middle east and stop supporting terrorism around the world and third stop threating to annihilate by country, israel, the one and only jewish state. >> reporter: the speech watched by the world but boycotted by some democrats. >> what i'm focused on right now
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is solving this problem. i'm not focused on the politics of it. >> reporter: now that we know what was in that speech we can see how the white house tried to steal netanyahu's thunder and make an argument against everything he said. they said if you try to add these greater restrictions on iran and indefinite time frame for the deal or more sanctions or trying to get them to dis dismantle their program and iran isn't going to take it. in stark opposition to what netanyahu was saying this administration feels no deal is far worse than the deal they are trying to complete. president obama did say at this point it's far more likely than not that iran rejects this deal. erin. >> all right. thank you very much.
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what was the reaction from the prime minister. >> reporter: it was a vicious reaction. the speech was not broadcast but there was video of the speech on iranian tv with banner saying iranophobic speech. that's the title they have given to that speech. we reached out to the spokesperson for iran's foreign minister and she said she found the speech sickening. it would bring divisions between the united states. he says the day when western people realize that they're problems result from zionism's
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hegemony over governments they will make an inescapable hell for them. a pretty strong rhetoric from the supreme leader of this country. there was a lot of backlash and angry reaction. a lot of regular people didn't like the speech at all. one of things that we didn't hear which is quite interesting is the iranian's are not saying they will walk away from the negotiations over this. the government official that we spoke to said they want to continue all of this. they are still hoping for an agreement. they also say if an agreement is not reached, that iran will go on. iran will survive under the sanctions as well. they are preparing for that to be a possibility. >> fred thank you very much. fred is live in tehran tonight. peter king serves on the house homeland security and intelligence committees.
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the prime minister's welcome was something to see. it was so much pomp and circumstance. you departmentsidn't see half the room refusing to stand because more than 50 democrats didn't attend. you had a overwhelmingly friendly audience. >> i think this speech allowed the proper protocol was breached that said it added to the dialogue. i think congress democrats and republicans, responded very favorable to the speech. >> they did. you say democrats and republicans. the democrats that were there seeing it favorably.
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maybe that's why he chose this afternoon when appearing with his defense secretary from the white house. here is part of what he said. >> if we're successful in negotiating this will be the best deal possible to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. nothing else comes close. sanctions won't do it. even military action would not be as successful. >> that's the key line. is it a deal better than military action even if it's not a very good deal? >> no i think a bad deal is bad. they would remain their nuclear infrastructure and the deal if it's the way it appears to be in ten years. that would mean iran would be a nuclear power. at the end of the period there would be a nuclear power with everything in place.
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i think more has to be done. >> i know you support this deal right now. you just heard our reporters -- >> there's no deal to support. frame work for a deal will be established about a month from now. >> do you support what the president put forward, this break out time of one year? >> i think the president has been very clear that we have to prevent iran from ob taebtaining a nuclear weapon. there's a lot of questions and concerns. the number of centrifuges have increased from 168 to about 119,000. those are machines that spin at super sonic speeds to enrich
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uranium to bomb grade. i'm curious about the final agreement. you can't deal with the nuclear program without dealing with a atomic infrastructure. >> let me ask you something because it sounds like you're not totally on board with the frame work that's out there. you want to know more. i want to read to you a tweet from the supreme leader. back in november why should and how can israel be eliminated? my question to you is how can you support any kind of a deal with a country who's supreme leader is tweeting that kind of thing? >> i think because if what you said earlier, sanctions brought us to the table. sanctions have cripple the
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iranian economy. the question is what comes from that negotiation. it's very very fair. everybody points this out to be very skeptical about iran's commitment to some peaceful settlement relative to the nuclear program. they are causing a lot of problems in the region, in iraq with the control, in syria with the support of assad and lebanon with the support of hezbollah. >> the issue of the centrifuges. not all of them are operational. prime minister netanyahu says the supreme leader of iran wants 190,000 centrifuges. that's true. he has said that. we called a weapons inspector. that weapons inspector actually said that number could be completely consistent with peaceful nuclear program. japan has more centrifuges. is this focus on the number of centrifuges off base? >> i think it's something that
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has to be brought up in the discussion. if it was in the hands of another country, then i would not have the concern. in the hands of iran i'm very concerned. i just wish the president, and also for the democratic leader, nancy pelosi has shown more respect to prime minister netanyahu netanyahu. he's probably set off the real debate on the proposed or nuclear agreement with iran. he is our closest ally in the middle east. i think he deserved better treatment. again, we do want a good agreement. i don't know if we're going to get it. i'm very doubtful now. israel is our closest ally. it's important to keep that in mind. when you look at that terrible part of the world,ize izesrael is the one. they stood with us. i think we should be listening to what the israeli prime minister said and take it seriously. everything he said today, i
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think i agree with based on what we know. having said, it's very serious consideration. >> thanks to both you have. it's a fair point. it could be the most important diplomatic negotiation by the united states in 30 plus years. a new report from the justice department finding pattern of racism among ferguson police. we'll tell you what's in it. los angeles police shooting an kildand killing an unarmed man. there's so much more to the story we can show you. the black hat bandit striking again. this time possibly leaving a major clue. the latest on the man hunt and the clue coming up. ameriprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you have enough money to live life on your terms? i sure hope so. with healthcare costs, who knows. umm... everyone has retirement
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the justice department showing repeated discrimination against blacks in ferguson community. the investigation was ordered by the attorney general holder after mass protests in ferguson responding to the death of michael brown, the unarmed black teen shot and killed by police. evan perez is outfront in washington. what is the bottom line they are saying happened in ferguson? >> erin the bottom line here is
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this police department and the court system in ferguson according to the justice department was rived with racism. according to the justice department, 85% of the vehicle stops between 2012 and 2014 were of african-americans. 88% of cases where the ferguson police used force in making an arrest was against african-americans. 93% of arrests were of african-americans. this in a city that's 67% african-american. this report is really as you said scathing. it shows this is a problem that goes beyond just the police department into the court system because people were being targeted not only for traffic stops but also thrown in jail when they couldn't pay their fines. >> it goes beyond that. they have e-mail offense officials trading racist jokes. >> that's right. they uncovered e-mails on the ferguson city computer system where people were trading jokes.
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i'll real one of them that refers to in 2008 in november right after the election of president barack obama. one person said president obama wouldn't likely last in office for very long because quote, what black man holds a steady job for four years. this is what the justice department says was going on behind the scenes. it underscores and backs up what we heard on the streets in ferguson and people were protesting after the killing of michael brown. >> that's pretty incredible. there were other jokes like that in the e-mails they uncovered. thank you so much. outfront now, the attorney for michael brown's family and former lapd officer from the st. louis area. let me start with you anthony. you just heard evans report. ferguson department repeatedly discriminating against blacks. you represent the family of michael brown. what's your response? >> well nobody is alarmed.
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no one is shocked by the actual statistics. it's been well known throughout ferguson community amongst a large populations of its citizens that these types of stats have been there. may may not have known numbers but they have always known there's been a target on their back. that's the reason why you saw the complaints that came out immediately after the aftermath of the shooting. no one is surprised or alarmed by the stat themselves. >> david, the question is how serious is this racism and whether you think it's real? darren wilson's attorney we talked to him today, he says ferguson's neighboring towns, they're 90%, 82% black respectively. they don't have grocery stores. people come to ferguson. he's providing that as an example of why the statistics might look worse. does that excuse that up to you?
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>> i would say i don't know. i'm a professor now. i left law enforcements three decades ago. one of the things that we know is we have to understand what the appropriate benchmark is. what that means is what should we be comparing the stop rates, arrest rates to? is it the population or is it the people on the street? >> that's the distinction he's making there. >> what we need to know that. rather than jumping to a conclusion and saying there's a 20 percentage point disparity between population of black citizens versus population of black arrestees may be explicable based upon traffic pattern. we need to figure out what's in the report to take a very very careful look at it. it's easy to jump to conclusions. i say show me the data and let me look. the flip side of the coin could
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be that the practices are even worse because it could be there are fewer blacks than 67% riding on the surface streets of ferguson. we have to wait and see. >> an thopthony let me ask you this. you have a 67% black community and arrest rates that are 20% or higher. according to another report from the bureau of justice statistics blacks a eight times more likely to commit crimes than whites. that might mean the arrest rate might fairly be higher than the raw population break down right? >> that might be. i don't think what's driving this discourse in the ferguson community and the surrounding community are stats. i think what you generally had was a sense or a feeling within the community that they were not being treated equally and fairly. that has now been bolstered by
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these statistics. trust me no one in the ferguson or in the st. louis region are looking at stats every day to walk away with how they feel about their interaction with law enforcement. i think what you're seeing in this report is indicative of how people have felt for a long time. that's why all of the calls i received today, a large majority of them are not surprised by what the justice department is saying. they have been living this for quite some time. the feeling of disparity has been there even if it's not real. the feeling has been there. >> we remember the tear gas. the video we saw this summer of the violence break down in ferguson missouri. this comes down to things like the e-mails. evan shared one joke. another joke was this from an e-mail, an african-american woman was admitted into the hospital for a pregnancy termination. she asked who it was from.
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the hospital said crime stoppers. there's nothing to explain or just something like that is there? >> no. i'm not here to be a humor critic. that is out of the appropriate zone of a comedy club or someone talking like that. there's no place for that in an official correspondence and officialentity. i don't think anybody will try to defend that. we don't know who told the joke or who it was sent from or sent to that's a whole other issue. you need to dig deep to figure out what's going on and what the linkages might be. >> i appreciate both of you taking the time. next police shooting an unarmed man but was he going for a gun? we have newage sis of the video. you'll see it all and it changes the story tonight. jihadi john, the face and tennessee brutal isis beheadings. we have a new picture of him and
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a forensic expert went through this cell phone video frame by frame. revealing what he believes was said and done in those crucial moments to an officer shooting five times and killing a man. >> reporter: the video of the officer involved shooting on skids row in downtown los angeles is key and contains crucial evidence to the investigation. when the video is slowed down and zoomed in more clues about what transpired between the l.a.p.d. officers and the suspect come to light. david is an audio/video forensic expert. >> go back to the officer getting out. >> he's now reaching, if you see here for his left side. that's important because officers will only wear their tasers on their weaker side. they have their gun on their
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stronger side. as you see him coming out of car, he's reaching for his left side. we don't know if that's his strong or weak side. he switches it to his right hand. right here we see in his right hand it appears not to be a gun. it appears to be a taser. >> there's light coming through it. >> we don't hear any electrical discharging from any device as far as i can hear until that device is up against the suspect right here. we see a hand going up and grabbing something on that man's right side. >> on the officer's right side? >> at his waist level. >> see the officer reaching to his right side and tussling with the suspect's hand on his right side which is his gun. >> it looks like he's losing his
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balance. >> yeah they're fighting with each other. we don't hear drop the gun until the hand goes up and grabs at the officer's right side. he's starting to stand up before a shot is fired. >> what about the officer can you see? >> we see the officer pulling out a gun, apparent lirks and pointing it right there. this man, right here right here you see his right hand. also apparently reaching for his gun. watch. he pulls it out the holster. he's pointing his gun now. see right here. >> taser is on the ground. >> this gentleman is reaching on his right side which is his strong side now to take the gun out. >> this man was the first we were able to discern he had a gun. this was the second and now this is the third officer we're able to discern that looks like he
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has a gun in his hand. >> correct. >> that's pretty fascinating. what is his ultimate take away when he watched it frame by frame in terms of who is at fault? in >> throughout the methods they tried first. they only did that after the struggle for the gun took place is what he estimates happened. that's when you see the guns being drawn. for the community protesters who are out today marching to lapd headquarters. they think four men should be able to subdue one man. >> which is an interesting point in itself. three mens with guns in the last frame as you were showing us. thank you. an attorney for three of the lapd officers involve and a former lapd officer, himself, matthew fog is with me. thanks to both you have.
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david, i want to go to you first. these men are your clients. you have seen something that we have not. that frame by frame analysis that we're showing is off of citizens cell phone video. you've seen the video from the two body cameras worn by police. you've seen the up close and personal version of what happened. what did you see? >> well i saw what was confirmed on the videotape that was put on youtube. there's different angles. they show what happened. it's important to say that what is seen on the videotape isn't necessarily the perceptions of the officers. the lighting is difference. the officers can see things a little more clearly and what i saw on those two body cameras confirm what the officers showed that the use of force that was used was appropriate and it
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escalated in accordance with what the suspect was doing at the time snp. >> matthew, when you hear what david is saying. you hear our fo rensrensic experts, the bottom line is they tried to subdue the man without force. what do you see? >> well what i see is first of all, when i see the way that the guy is approached by the officer, seemed like a melee right there. i don't know at what point they used their tasers but it looked like it was a lot of struggling going on right from the beginning. then at the time when you see the guy on the ground it's really hard to tell. if the guy was tased, you're swinging your arms and flailing, it's chance he arms could have went somewhere. i can't tell from that video.
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from what i saw it didn't appear he grabbed his gun. that's what they're saying happened. if he did have the officer's gun, of course the officers would have reason to fire. what i looked at what as lot of struggling going on in which you see a lot of times. how fast do they es kacalate? was it necessary to escalate? >> the fact that the suspect africa as he is called is on the ground on his back. you've got three plus police officers around you, from a layperson's perspective, it can see a little ridiculous that they all need to pull their guns and fire. >> sure. i understand that from a layperson. what the video doesn't show is that prior to what happened on the you tube video is the suspect was being questioned by the officers. the officers had information that this suspect used a
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baseball bat on another citizen and injured that citizen. the officers were trying to talk to him, to get him to move away from the tent that he was standing next to which contained the baseball bat and perhaps other weapons or things they didn't know about. they asked the suspects to move away from the tent and move over to a wall. he refused to do that. he started escalating his volume in his voice. he clenched his fist. he continued to refuse be officers request and move away from tent. then he turned and went into the tent and shut the tent so the officers couldn't see what he was doing. >> okay. >> the attemptofficers attempted to open it and he was trying to grab an object inside the tent. they ordered him to stop. when he came out is when the taser was eventually used. prior to going in the tent he was being warned that if he
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didn't comply he was going to tase and it would hurt him. the suspect is the one who controlled the level of tension in the situation and created the point where the officers did tase him and that's the point where you see the struggling going on and what's happening is the suspect is ripping the darts out his chest and attacking the officer who tased him. that's when the officers grabbed him and put him on the ground. as far as your question about the amount of officers on the suspect, when there's multiple officers on the suspects there's only so many officers that can control the suspect. you could have ten officers there and they couldn't all be effective by putting their hands on him. when they're holding him, trying to hold him down this is a violent suspect. he's mentally unstable. he is possibly on drugs, he's
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strong. he's a large man. he was fighting the officers. they did everything they could to control him. >> all right. >> that was the point where he -- go ahead. >> i was literally just thanking you for coming on. one thing that would solve this when david is going through this description is if they leased the body cam footage so we could see it for ourselves. they said they will not do that until after the investigation is complete. newly released audio, jihadi john talking about 9/11. >> this is the wrong thing. what happened was wrong. the suspected gang of robbers known as the black hat bandits strike again. this time they left a clue. we'll tell you.
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this is newly released audio. it has a surprising insight into what he was thinking before he became this horrific executioner. >> i said these might these must be some serious questions. >> reporter: the voice purportedly of mohammed emwazi. >> i looked at him face-to-face and he looked at me and said mohammedmoe mohammed mohammed. >> reporter: different from the voice that murdered westerners in syria. >> obama, you have started your bombardment bombardment. it's only right we continue to strike your people. >> reporter: how is it emwazi went from a good upbringing education and background to such extreme radicalization.
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>> i don't think, i believe everything that's been happening are extreme. >> reporter: even pictures of him tell a story. this one a college student at britain's university of westminster in 2000 to this one in kuwait in 2010. this one a murderer, despite hiding his face is now exactly what he claimed he wasn't when being interviewed by britain security service in 2009. >> i told them this is how islam is. we don't force anyone to come into religion. everyone has their own right. >> reporter: during that 2009 interview he said he thought 9/11 and the bombings in londons were extremist behavior and wrong. who was was interviewing him wasn't buying it for their angering emwazi. >> i said after what i just told you, what's happening is extremism and you're still suggesting i'm an extremist.
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we told you about them with exclusive video and fbi said these men seen here on surveillance footage with these brimmed black hats are extremely dangerous. they struck another bank yesterday. that is their eighth bank heist since january. this time though they left a clue. joe johns is out front. >> reporter: the armed and dangerous black hat bandits robbed another bank this week leaving potential new clues for fbi agents conducting the manhunt. authorities say they found several footprints in the snow they believe were left by the bandits. preserve them as evidence. tracks found near a wells fargo bank in falls church, virginia outside of washington, d.c. eighth target since january and investigators said there was more evidence of a getaway car why they could disappear from the area so quickly. all the pieces of the puzzle these investigators need to solve before hitting another bank are before somebody gets hurt. >> every time they go in the
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pressure is higher. you would think it's easier because they get better at it but they know it's a numbers game. i think this last one where there are witnesses outside and they got footprints from individuals fleeing, they start to collect bits of information. they know police are on the trail and if these individuals have a violent tendency confronted by police you could turn it into a hostage situation or a shootout in general. >> reporter: the last robbery had potential for trouble. the men were apparently first spotted at the beginning of the crime. rather than on their way out. a little quicker response and police might have cornered the robbers. >> the city of falls church police received a phone call from an individual who stated they saw two unknown males going to the bank with black masks on. >> reporter: the bandits have gotten bolder with each robbery hitting banks around the nation's capitol but not inside it. in the heist, a robber put a gun to the head of a customer.
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a former fbi agent and bank robbery expert say they're well planned with the focus of getting in and out quickly. so-called time on target. >> most bank robbers that perform multiple bank robberies know if they stay too long in the bank which is their target they're going to end up getting caught or the police will arrive and they'll end up getting in a shootout. the less time you spend in the movies the target spends the more likely to get away with the actual robbery. >> reporter: a $30,000 reward is offered for information leading to the arrest of these geeuys. we don't know how much money they have because the fbi hasn't released that. agents in washington and baltimore are working this case. >> that's incredible when you see that map they've done eight heists so close to each other and not yet been appearrehendedapprehended. joe johns, thank you. the tiny weasel on the back of a bird.
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steed. has the whole world laughing. bird experts were blown away. >> i was absolutely stunned. i couldn't believe it was real. >> reporter: but jamie wiver became a believer. martin lamay, a photographer by hobby, in a london park when they heard a woodpecker squawking and saw a weasel attacking the bird as it took off. this was no fantasy kiddi movie. this was a life and death struggle. the photographer told various media that the woodpecker landed on a presence momentarily distracted the weasel. flew up and away both survived. >> it's a photographer's dream, isn't it to capture behavior that no one has ever seen before. >> reporter: soon everyone was seeing it.
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foth photoshopped and combined with benjamin netanyahu, climbed aboard. the weasel decked out in the blue or is it gold dress? miley cyrus was half dressed. in the two llama shirt up. is it feasible for the bird to fly with the weasel on top of it? >> actually weasels are very light. it's said that the head of a weasel could fit through a wedding ring. >> reporter: a small weasel might weigh as much as a candy bar, so imagine a woodpecker flying around with this on its back. soon the photo landed at the top of the reddit's animals riding animals along with butterflies on an alligator, dog on a donkey and dog rides dog. the image known as #weaselpecker took off like the space shuttle. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> thanks for joining us and be
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sure to record "outfront" to watch us anytime any night. in the meantime "ac360" starts right now with wolf blitzer tonight. good evening, i'm wolf blitzer in washington sitting in for anderson. we have breaking news. the justice department's report on policing in ferguson missouri the investigation launched in the ugly wake of the police shooting that left michael brown dead. the conclusion a pattern and practice of racial bias against african-americans by the nearly all white ferguson police department. targeting blacks disproportionately according to one official familiar with the report for traffic stops, use of force, and jail sentences. the report revealed outright racist e-mails within the department. we'll have a bunch more on this shortly including reaction from our own sunny hostin and benjamin. let's begin with the nuclear reaction to
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