faith, fact, forgery. finding jesus. premieres sunday night at 9:00 on cnn. >> thank you for joining us. "anderson" starts now. good evening. thank you for joining us. we begin tonight with breaking news a first video from the attack on key american diplomat overseas. mark ambassador in south korea. led away from the breakfast forum where he was attacked by a man with a knife. according to south korea's news agency, pushed on to a table and went at him with the blade. the ambassador taken to the hospital where he's reported to be in stable condition. president obama called him there a short time ago. his injuries thankfully not life-threatening as you can see. however, the attack on which is a normally safe city was obviously terrifying. according to local media, witness reported hearing saying

north and south korea should be unified. his last name, kim, very common korean last name. the pyongyang news agency say he was post-south korean military exercises that got under way this week. we have a reporter in seoul. paula hancocks. >> reporter: we had a briefing in the last couple of minutes and they said this happened just over two hours ago at 7:42 a.m. local time. it was a breakfast meeting and according to police this happened just as ambassador lippert was about to start eating. the attacker was sitting at the table next to him. now, this briefing this morning was actually for reunification of the two koreas. it was a group pushing for this and this attacker was a member of this group. so he's not an unknown. we know that just as the ambassador was about to start eating he attacked him with a

small knife. earlier, it was a razor blade. police have corrected that. they say he's a man in his 50s. local media saying he does have a previous criminal record but he was able to be within that breakfast meeting and that close to the ambassador. rushed to the hospital. >> sorry, do we know much about the security surrounding the ambassador? what's it typically like at an event like this? >> reporter: well the police have told us about security here. they said there was 25 police officers outside the event. this was an art center where this happened and they said there were no special requests from the u.s. embassy as the ambassador was there but they knew this echbt was happening and they were able to detain this man quickly because they had police inside as well but just looking from my own personal point of view a couple of weeks ago i went to din we are ambassadors and security in this country is not particularly tight. i was able to walk in without my bag being searched without a

metal detector and then was actually sitting next to the italian ambassador. so security here even though this is a country which is technically at war with north korea, it is considered a very safe country. a breakfast event downtown seoul is not considered to be a high-risk area for any ambassador even the u.s. ambassador. people here even members of the public, would have more access to ambassadors than other conflict zones. where he is >> i think i interrupted you, but the ambassador in the video, we see him basically holding up a tissue or something to his face to stop the bleeding. he was taken to the hospital obviously. >> reporter: that's right. yes. police say he was attacked on his right cheek and his hand you can see him holding a tissue to his cheek.

the embassy spokesman said though obviously it's not life-threatening. he is in a stable condition and you can see him being guided to a car, but he is walking and he is talking at that point as well so they are hoping these injuries are not particularly severe but obviously everyone is quite shocked here. it's the first time a u.s. ambassador to seoul has been attacked. we have seen attacks like this in the past though. remember president parker hey back in 2006 when she was campaigning was actually attacked with a knife herself as well. she had a slash across her cheek at a public event. which just shows that the people are able to get close to those in power, so much closer than other countries. >> paula hancocks shocking. thank you. chris served during the bush administration and joins us from seoul. ambassador hill it's disturbing to see this. what was your initial reaction to the attack on lippert, were

you surprised someone was able to get that close? >> it's shocking. this is considered a safe place. when i was ambassador i had security but i was able to walk outside by myself and occasionally walk home from the embassy. it's a very low-security environment and certainly i've been in many of those breakfasts. it was just across the street from the embassy. this is not something one normally associates with a need for high security. >> is an event like this obviously, don't have to go into security details on something like this but would have security personnel with you, close protection? >> again, i can't speak to the current situation, but what would normally happen in a country like this and in fact happened when i was here is you were assigned a security person from the korean government. basically that person would kind of make sure you could get to

your seat and then, you know strange people come up to you. i don't know the details of what happened this morning but normally you'd have someone. in addition i think whenever the ambassador goes somewhere, there would be a discussion between the embassy and the event organizers to see what kind of security arrangements they have and normally the koreans are pretty well buttoned up and suggested this morning, quite a few police outside and normally within the event itself, there would be some security people but in this case it seemed to be remarkable that a member or person seated for the breakfast, actually. >> it's interesting. you say the security person is assigned by the south korea government. you didn't have someone doing close protection on you? >> it varies. sometimes in iraq you have a small army accompany you and they're all american but in a country like this you know,

according to the vienna convention it's the host country that's responsible for the security of embassies and ambassadors. so in any embassy, you'll have marine guards on the inside but the outside, host security people assigned to a vip, to the ambassador to make sure nothing happens. but unless there's some unusual circumstance such as those that prevail in a place like iraq you would not have a u.s. security person going around with you. >> the report that the attacker said something about north and south not being unified, maybe opposed in joint u.s./south korea exercises recently gone under way. maybe suggest a political mindset, perhaps this person is maybe disturbed in some level but how contentious is this an issue in seoul these days? >> obviously, it is contentious. we're in the annual -- this is the month of the year where there are these annual exercises

that have gone on for decades. so it's not unusual but it's contentious and brings about the debate between south koreans who feel there ought to be less of this and some who feel comfortable with the idea u.s. troops are here to exercise what are really obligations in terms of protecting south korea in the event of a war. so these things get discussed but the notion that they would spill in is extremely unusual notion and therefore, i think we'll have to wait for the investigation. but i think there's something in this guy's head that probably needs to be examined. >> finally, just an incident like this does this then change, obviously as you said there's an investigation but does it change the thinking on the part of u.s. officials, would they then kind of relook at their security situation and whether or not they need to up that in terms of close protection of the ambassador? >> oh i'm sure there will be a discussion in the embassy about that sort of an assessment on

what they have to do. obviously you're sitting at a breakfast and someone from the neighboring table stands up with a knife and attacks you, that's pretty unusual. i've never heard of that. so that has to be looked at and what the security was, i don't know what the outcome would be. whether there would try to be more security whether they try to rope off the ambassador's table in the future. who knows what they try to do but obviously have to look at this in terms of lessons learned and figure out what to do in the next such circumstance. >> it's obviously very disturbing incident. ambassador hill thank you so much. joining us on the phone is cnn's finest graduate, mike jinoy at cnn's china institute and secret service agent dan bongino and lieutenant colonel james reese, a retired force member. let's start with you, james. to do that you can't be more than arm's length from your victim. it's a personal attack. the amount of security ambassador travels with doesn't

protect against that kind of vulnerability it seems like in this case. >> you're right. my concern is that if the ambassador represents the president of the united states in every country, he is and it is. diplomatic security has this way each day on whether they protect or not. the man who represents president of the united states i got to believe has got to have a close protection officer or an agent in charge that's right there within arms reach if something happens. the ambassador or block that threat coming from the ambassador. so i think, really diplomat security has to take a hard look at how they're going to do these in other countries around the world, even those we consider to be low risk. >> dan, particularly given the threat from north korea, the level of tension with north korea, and north korea in the past has sent agents into south korea to kidnap people and the like. without presidential level security though there's really no way to prevent something,

somebody getting close to another person. is there? >> there's not. there's always a balance here between access and security. and those security is never going to be absolute. it's going to be relative. but the guest who just spoke, i agree with his assessment there. i think we have to look at countries we traditionally consider safe. you know france, south korea. we're going to have to reconsider having an ambassador there on his own without a diplomatic representative. i think that's a really poor decision. the profile of the country alone with the ambassador creates a threat profile significant enough to warrant or at least one agent. >> mike the fact that this guy reportedly attacked the ambassador at least vocally saying something about joint military drills between south korea and the united states disturbed in other ways is that i mean i ask the ambassador hill about this a

little bit, how controversial is sentiment is that there? how controversial are these exercises these days? >> the exercises are a controversy. there is a substantial though clearly a minority view in south korea among people on the left who are critical some of whom open in north korea. and the kind of emotional issue, emotionally charged issue, division of the korean peninsula just gone off since the korean war and there are people on the left in the south and south korea who blame the united states for the division. so things feelings get stirred up this time of year. the north koreans test fired short range missile and protest the military exercise. a few years ago, tensions reached the point there were real fears there might be some kind of army conflict. so that's the atmosphere and

context in which this person took the action he did. indicating he was also involved in some kind of attack on the japanese ambassador a few years ago. so this is something that people feel deeply about and if you're troubled to begin with it can send you over the top. >> stay with us. and the panel. we'll take a quick break, come back and have more on this. the ambassador medical condition we're getting. fact. fast-acting advil is designed with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core technology stopping headaches and other tough pain. fast. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil.

most of the products we all buy are transported on container ships. before a truck delivers it to your store, a container ship delivered it to that truck. here in san diego, we're building the first one ever to run on natural gas. ships this big running this clean will be much better for the environment. we're proud to be a part of that.

you can't predict the market. but at t. rowe price we've helped guide our clients through good times and bad. our experienced investment professionals are one reason over 85% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so in a variety of markets we can help you feel confident. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence.

police have a suspect in custody, dining with the

ambassador. treated for non-life-threatening injuries. back to paula hancocks in seoul. what have you learned? >> reporter: well, anderson we know straight off of this attack the ambassador was taken to a local hospital just about half an hour ago. we understand he was transferred to a larger hospital here in seoul. we're being told by that hospital he is currently in surgery. they don't have details of his condition at this point. they said they're waiting for the end of the surgery to give us any kind of information. and we also know from police that the attacker himself was likely injured. we understand he had a fracture. they're not saying exactly where that fracture was but at this point it's not clear if he's being treated. we know he's being questioned anderson. >> paula, thank you very much. i want to bring in barbara starr, a friend of the ambassador. she joins us now. you know ambassador lippert well. what can you tell us about him? you say he's a former navy seal?

>> reporter: actually he's a reservist. he was assigned to a navy seal unit at one point and like most of the press corps with mark lippert, he was a figure here in the pentagon hallways. he served as chief of staff to former defense secretary chuck hagel. he served in a number of positions working asia policy. this was his expertise. he had been so excited about going off and on his facebook page over the last several weeks after he arrived, some of the pictures heartwarming. he and his wife just had a baby. they have a newborn baby just several weeks old and he posted a lot of pictures of himself walking around seoul relatively alone with his rather large basset hound and many south korean children coming up to him and really likes to get out and

about and i don't think you can emphasize the asia poets. is his expertise and very excited about being ambassador there. >> obviously whether or not he walk around. south korea was as well. >> reporter: the top u.s. military official in south korea briefed a short time ago about the incident. darrell right now in charge of running these u.s./south korean military drills. these are fairly routine exercises, but of course it has set off a lot of rhetoric in north korea which is claiming of course that all of these drills are a precursor to an invasion of the north. general skaproti notifying about these exercises and that they are purely defensive in nature

for the u.s. and south korea to exercise their ability to operate in the event of a contingency emergency without keeping stability on the peninsula. this incident very disturbing obviously. >> barbara starr, appreciate the update. thanks. back with mike chinoy and james reese. the timing with this military drill under way as barbara starr just said those are not popular in north korea. it certainly seems like security should be a little stronger during contentious events in the region and again, north korea has sent, you know spies, has sent operatives into south korea to kidnap people in the past to attack people. >> yeah. i wish i could tell you i'm surprised but i'm not having spent 17 years of my life in law enforcement, 12 in the security arena with the secret service. the assets are limited. i can't say that enough. it pains me to say that on cable news but maybe it will spur someone to do something about it. outside the president and vice

president, i got to sound the alarm a bit. the security apparatus in the country around the foreign dignitaries and people with really significant profiles wrapping themselves in our flag doing our business overseas is just not adequate. it's just not there. i wish i could tell you something different. >> colonel reese, how big, i mean it's always a balance. and something like this this man represents the united states. he wants to be able to move relatively freely. he wants to be able to interact with people in a natural way. he wants to be able to shake hands and look people in the eye. at the same time there's the security consideration. so it's a balance, i guess, in moving forward from here. >> anderson it is. you hit it right. no one wants to have a close security detail around them. you've been in those positions before. they're not a lot of fun. bottom line is this: a gentleman like that represents the united states of america and the propaganda anyone could get by attacking an ambassador a high

government official a propaganda about that enough showing the strong america doesn't have a security sense about it to protect their ambassadors abroad. it's not good. again, ambassadors don't want it. been around it my whole life also but it's something we have to do and it's become part of the puzzle they have to deal with though. >> mike in north korea in the past and there's no evidence north korea is any way involved in this whatsoever but in the past they have sent operatives down into south korea, haven't they? they've kidnapped people and brought them back across the border. >> the north korea staged a number of operations in south korea including in the late 1950s and assassinate the father of the current president of south korea but i think it's very clear at this point it's not at all like something north korea would be involved in. this guy is a lone operator. >> i'm not suggesting there's

north korean involvement but in terms of a security profile and the security picture. i would imagine that is something that has to be taken into account. >> there's no question. and in fact there is a lot of security around the presidential presidents in seoul but across the street in the american embassy is a morning breakfast to discuss issues related to the unification to the koreas so it's not something where you would think this kind of thing would happen. and ambassador lippert has been notably, even by the standards of other american ambassadors, very accessible. out and walking. he even set up a profile for his dog, as barbara starr mentioned. so he's out from other ambassadors but i remember when

i was working for cnn. i was doing a live interview with an american ambassador and somebody, a south korean tried to attack him but our driver was trained in martial arts and then continued. but these things happen. they get carried away. >> a good driver to have there, mike chinoy. dan bongino as well. colonel reese. since details are unfolding, we'll keep you updated throughout the hour. anything new on whether the ambassador gets out of surgery. up next the pattern of police racism and many protesters in ferguson were marching about. the results of a justice department investigation. so,as my personal financial psychic, i'm sure you know what this meeting is about. yes, a raise. i'm letting you go. i knew that. you see, this is my amerivest managed... balances. no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters.

quarters...yup. then amerivest gives me back their advisory... stocks. fees. fees. fees for those quarters. yeah. so, i'm confident i'm in good hands. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. sir, we're going to need you on the runway later. don't let a severe cold hold you back. get theraflu... ...with the power of three medicines to take on your worst pain and fever, cough and nasal congestion. it breaks you free from your toughest cold and flu symptoms. theraflu. serious power. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping.

more breaking news tonight and three e-mails to tell you about. we don't have the actual screen shots of the e-mails though presumably the u.s. justice department does. they had the descriptions. april 2011 the first, shows president obama has a chimpanzee and second of june of that year describes a man seeking welfare for his dog because their, quote, dog has no clue who their daddies are. the third e-mail shows a bare-chested group of dancing women apparently in africa reading michelle obama's high school reunion. all three circulated among members of the police department and members in ferguson, missouri, including supervisors. a searing report.

102 pages long. a pattern of racism in the all-white ferguson police department and a practice of treating citizens mainly african-american citizens targeted to be cited fined and threatened and jail time if they do not pay up. a community where authorities consistently approach law enforcement, not as a means for protecting of safety but as a way to generate revenue where policing and municipal court practices were found to be disproportionately harmful to residents. 93% of arrests were african-american and 90% of vie viations. significantly today, the justice department did not find any basis for federal target against officer darren wilson who since left the force.

however, his boss a police chief, the mayor of ferguson still on the job. late today, the mayor spoke out. sara sidner joining us in ferguson from more. what did the mayor have to say? >> >> reporter: the mayor talked about the fact there were problems with the department. of course obviously the d.o.j. putting owl thatall that information out there to the public. he was there by himself, not the police chief, not the city manager but talked about the fact they're going to do things about the problems. he talked about the fact they're going to change the structure in the courts. cap the revenue they get from things like fees and stop fining people for not showing up to court. all things that have really frustrated this community but the most concrete thing that we heard today in that press conference would have to do with the racist e-mails and what those employees will now face. listen up. here's what the mayor had to say. >> this type of behavior will not be tolerated in the ferguson police department or any

department. immediately upon leaving that meeting, three individuals were placed on administrative leave pending an investigation. one has since been terminated. >> i got to say, sara it's a little bit late for the mayor to sudden now be shocked there's racism in ferguson missouri when we were there over the summer i believe it was and interviewed him. he was saying there is no racial issue, there was no racial issue in the police department in the community at large. it's amazing now to hear him as if the veil has been lifted from his eyes. >> reporter: well to be fair about a month after that initial stuff in august all that unrest in august a month after i talked about that very same thing because he did come utout and say, i was wrong. i now see it. i didn't realize people were so upset about the things happening including these fees including

this ticketing. but we're seeing a very very scathing report. there's knowledge of the investigation. two people and understand they're not going to survive this investigation. they are not going to be working for the department officers one works inside the department and not an officer. there's new information exclusive to cnn but as you can tell there is a lot of books here. very frustrated very, very frustrated with that press conference because nobody got to answer any questions, ask any questions. they got a statement and then they left. >> the chief of police did he show up? did the chief of police show up to the press conference. >> reporter: no. the city manager wasn't there. those are the two that are paid to do their jobs. the mayor gets something like a few hundred dollars a month to do his job. those other two positions are paid positions and people wanted to hear from them.

they help run the city too, especially the police chief. because the dmj looking very heavily at the police department. not a word. not a word to us. not a word to anyone else either. anderson? >> we'll see whether there's transparency in the police department. general counsel to the st. louis police association and legal analyst and former prosecutor sunny hostin and charles blow. sunny, these e-mails. these racist e-mails. what do you make of them? >> i think i'm just as shocked as everyone else but more shocked at the mayor's reaction. i mean firing three employees that sent some e-mails, okay. i understand that that may be a start, perhaps scratching the surface, but we're talking about a pattern and practice of systemic racism found by the justice department after reviewing over 35,000 pages of documents and investigating this case. and so, you know i found it -- >> it's not just three. >> it's not just three people.

i found it woefully inadequate. why did we not hear an apology, an acceptance of the doj recommendations? to me i just feel like leadership there has to be a leadership change and the mayor shouldn't be there. i don't think chief jackson should be there, and i suspect that after the attorney general said these are concrete steps that are going to be taken and everything is on the table, there has to be accountability and i think that accountability starts at the leadership. >> charles n in this report they talked about an african-american in his apartment, pulled the guy out by force and said you don't have a reason to lock me up the officer responds with the n word and says i can find something to lock you up on and a number of people in this report who used racial epithets and things like

that. reading this, are you surprised? >> it's not about surprised but the racial epithets the racially charged e-mail you can get rid of those. get rid of that person. the bigger part is the systemic part of it the architecture of authority that's used as an instrument of oppression because it is not about hurt feelings. this is about poor people to a large degree many of them african-american people who are getting the short end of a stick and this is real money, right? if you're running basically a prison if you stack up so many fines on people who cannot pay them and then they get a warrant, a summons and report to jail. that's a person now been taken out of a family money the family cannot use and every time someone makes the argument about people on welfare, every time we engage in these sorts of practices, they take money away from people real money real people need. they were talking about in that record about sales taxes going

down. well sales taxes are going to go down. these things are feeding on each other. if you take money out of people's pockets that they could be spending on goods and services and charge it to them in fees it's going into your department. of course the sales taxes are going down because there's a limited amount of money. i want people to really understand that. >> police shouldn't be about financial. >> it's public service. >> i want to bring neil back in here. first of all, the justice department decided not to pursue federal civil rights charges against darren wilson. he was your client. i know you spoke to him today. what did he have to say to that and i wanted your take on what the justice department found, this report is scathing. >> let me start with darren. of course he's relieved and glad that it's over. it's been a very long road for him and, again, the 86 page report that was prepared by the justice department is a very

report. we had to be careful not to reach any conclusions or opinions and we've seen it all. it's sitting out in great detail the reasons why. we're glad for that. i wanted to approach this with the same vigor they claimed they were going to do this investigation. i think that the justice department has just like in 102 page report, has a duty to make sure people understand why they made the decisions they made regarding darren wilson and i think that has to be clear because if we're going to have confidence in the justice department's decision then you have to really explain it to people. even people who don't want to listen. you have to make that clear, so i'm glad. in terms of the second report you know again, i've looked at that. i've read it. it's a terrible indictment of the situation. now, again, i don't know the facts. it's not a department i represent but it speaks to the larger problems we have and i've been talking about for at least several months. we have to talk about race and

policing. >> i guess, we've got to go because we did so much breaking news on the attack with the ambassador but now, all the talk about transparency in the police department for the chief of police not to show up to the press conference and, you know -- >> it's remarkable. >> say, you know what we've got a problem or just these people whatever it is but tonight leave this mayor who's a part-time guy, i got to say, that's -- >> it's remarkable people say we don't know all the facts. just look at the over 100 page document. i think we know a lot of the facts. >> what about the chief of police was it surprising he didn't even show up? >> it was, anderson and today, then fire three people. and gee, we just found out today. i don't know all the facts. we don't know all the facts. even the justice report that has 100 pages long and a lot is anecdotal. >> a lot of facts too, neil. >> it's unavoidable and today they would decide we'll fire

three people? it seems like a knee jerk reaction too and a lot of explainsing explaining has to be done. neil, appreciate it. charles blow and sunny hostin. the carnage and mayhem after the boston marathon bombings two years ago. making tourniquets out of anything they can find. this was shown in court today. ready for another reason to switch to t-mobile? get america's best unlimited 4g lte family plan. two lines of unlimited 4g lte data for just $100 a month. stuck in a contract? don't get trapped by the other guys. t-mobile will break you free. we'll buy out your contract up to $650 per line. so don't wait, get americas best unlimited 4g lte family plan with two lines for just $100. switch to t-mobile today. um... i...i think we can make it, right?

it's okay, jim. just stay calm and move as quietly as possible. everyone understand? no sudden movements. google search: bodega beach house.

[alarms blaring] ohhhhh... whoa whoa whoa! who's responsible for this?!? if something goes wrong, you find a scapegoat. ...rick. it's what you do. ahhhhhhhh! what'd you say? uh-oh! kelly! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. rick. don't walk away from me. ahhhhhhhh! i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com.

you total your brand new car. nobody's hurt,but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do, drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had a liberty mutual new car replacement, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. new car replacement is just one of the features that come standard with a base liberty mutual policy. and for drivers with accident forgivness,rates won't go up due to your first accident. learn more by calling switch to liberty mutual and you can save up to $423. for a free quote today,call liberty mutual insurance at see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance.

boston marathon bombing trial and simple statement from judy clark. it was him, he said. he did it. and prosecutors played video unseen until now showing what dzhokhar tsarnaev and his brother tamerlan did showing the explosion that shakes the buildings and some cover their ears also in shock. ordinary people taking extraordinary life-changing - action and some taking the items of clothing from a convenience store, using it for tourniquets and rushing outside. it's a terrible scene doing what they can to try to save people's lives. the survivors and families in the courtroom, federal

prosecutor bill said to kill as many people as possible. again, raises a lingering question that we frankly still don't have an answer to. did the defendant build the bombs as he claims to have done from instructions online or is there some other person a master bomb maker on the loose somewhere? alexandra field is working that angle. >> reporter: first, suspect one and suspect two. almost immediately after questioned whether there were more involved. the reason for the doubts? the bombs. court documents revealed questions from the beginning about whether tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev were capable of making them. these sophisticated devices would have been difficult to fabricate. searches of the tsarnaev's sens and three locations associated with them yielded virtually no

traces of black powder. of the two remote control detonators used during the marathon bombings only one was recovered and nearly two years later, the doubts still linger. >> these were two relatively sophisticated devices that went off almost simultaneously. had a very short delay. it would be my opinion that they had somebody who was more of a skilled bomb maker, an engineer, if you will. saying these are the stepping you need to go through. >> reporter: joedzhokhar tsarnaev said he and his brother built from the inspire magazine. say explosives made with improvised fuses from christmas lights and remote control parts. not impossible but hard to get right without testing and the government never said where the bombs were made or if there's evidence of they tested others.

>> that's a big gap in the evidentiary case. do police believe it's possible somebody helped these brothers build the bomb? in absence of any proof they had the capability to do it three or five others. >> reporter: but who? nobody named as a coconspirator. tie to militants. the older tsarnaevs spent six months in russia. authorities questioned how much exposure he may have had to radicals and whether he could have received training there. it's not clear if either side will suggest there may have been a third party involved in the attack. but the defense will try to pin the blame on others. >> the defense strategy is going to be to create enough doubt within the juror's mind of dzhokhar's sort of mental state leading into this. the idea that there might be some evil hand out there telling

dzhokhar what to do whether it's his brother or someone who's a bomb maker fits nicely into that narrative. >> reporter: the trial centers on how the jury will see number two, painting the portrait of a cruel coconspirator, an equal partner in hideous crimes. spewing the rhetoric of al qaeda, the man who planned to kill and did. but the defense will draw dzhokhar in the mastermind older brother. younger, struggling in school abandoned by his parents. an easy victim of deep manipulation from suspect number one. >> alexandra field joins us now. the defense said there's no doubt the brothers placed the bombs and pushing more blame on the older brother. >> reporter: absolutely anderson. and that's the clear strategy. the prosecution doesn't really have to get into who built this bomb or where it was built. they have to prove dzhokhar's

role and the crime he's accused of and the defense is frankly conceded those points so the defense has to focus on the sentencing phase of this trial. the death penalty is on the table. so their strategy is that tamerlan was the mastermind. they believe that could create sympathy for dzhokhar and have to see if that sympathy was enough to spare dzhokhar his life when it comes to the jury here anderson. >> try to build sympathy for this guy. okay. boris nemtsov, gunned down in moscow. cnn's anthony bourdain spoke with him last year and his first interview since mr. nemtsov was killed. ♪ its effects on society really came about because, not because i was selfish and wanted one for myself, which i did. its because i had, had a passion. my whole life i wanted to teach myself to build computers. i wanted to build these things for free. i just wanted to do it for the world and you know when you want something, that's what you do the best. ♪ ♪

the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer,

that's what i'd like to do. whether you need a warm up before the big race... or a healthy start before the big meeting there's a choice hotel that's waiting for you. this spring, choose choice twice, get a night at no price at 1,500 hotels. book now at choicehotels.com

mourners gathered to remember boris nemtsov after he was gunned down near the kremlin. nemtsov was one of the most outspoken critics of vlad bheerimir putin. last year anthony bourdain spoke with nemtsov about politics, corruption and about vladimir putin. it was exchange over dinner. bourdain asked if he was afraid of getting killed. take a look. >> given the worrying connection between angering vladimir putin and bad things happening, are you concerned? >> me? >> yeah. >> about myself? >> yeah you're a pain in the ass. >> i am concerned generally. generally. i want to tell my family how much more concerned than me. because if you're concerned every minute that's the best

way to be killed. >> why can't you just like everybody else? why do you have to be -- why make life difficult for yourself? >> this is good question. first, i am well known guy. and this is a safety because if this is happens to me it will be a scandal not only here but throughout the world. >> anthony bourdain joins now. he thought his notoriety would protect him. and and he was wrong. >> he didn't seem concerned when i had dinner with him. i think he really enjoyed being who he was. he was fully aware of the danger of the situation in general and i think he was not surprised by the corruption and the extent of the corruption going on around

him, but i, you heard what he said. i think he believed his stature, his position his international profile would protect him. >> i talked to gary kasparov a few days ago and described him as a larger than life character. >> handsome cocky, sure of himself, incredibly smart guy, funny. a dangerous man to, you know people who he's criticizing. >> do you have any doubt that vladimir putin was behind this either directly or -- >> nemtsov maintains that it is a criminal culture, essentially. he says elsewhere in the interview, the state, the scandinavians have a problem with the culture. it is the way business is done.

he insists that it is essentially a criminal enterprise. any criminal enterprise i know of if you worked for a new york crime family and you shot somebody and left them on the front room of the boss without his ok bad things would probably happen to you. i put it to nemtsov at one point. there's no mystery. somebody poisoned this opponent of a loud critic of putin in central london with radioactive pulonium. an extremely expensive radioactive substance was introduced to this man. >> just as with nemtsov, he could have been killed in a dark

alley somewhere near his house. >> right. >> he was shot inside of the kremlin. >> i think the state of mind is whoever did this wants everyone to know assumes knows and is pretty sure that no one will do anything about it and i also think they're right. >> i want to play something else he said about other putin critics who either ended up in jail or were killed. >> i don't think you need to be a conspiracy theorist to say they want everyone to know who done it. everybody understands and everybody is meant to understand. >> everybody understands. everybody understands in this country. >> he didn't seem to have a sense of humor about it all, which i guess in that situation, what else do you do? >> you are fully aware of the intricate details of corruption so enormous so outrageous so

blatant day after day after day. you better have a sense of humor or you go mad and he did have a sense of humor. >> is it strange to have met this guy? i talk to you, you talked to a journalist in iran who is now in captivity and now nemtsov. is it? >> there was a sense of he made you believe he was untouchable. our dinner was supposed to be one of the best restaurants in moscow. we had it arranged in advance but when the chef owner found out that nemtsov was coming he immediately said no way. i don't want these guys radioactive, anything to do don't want to be seen with him or bad things might happen to me. he made me believe that he would live forever. he had that assurance, sense of humor. he seemed to not be worried in

such a way that he made you believe it too. >> anthony bourdain thanks very much. stay tuned for anthony bourdain's parts unknown. it starts at the top of the hour on cnn. the latest on the attack in south korea. paula han cox is in seoul monitoring the developments. the bed reacts to your body. it hugs you. it's really cool to the touch. this zips off so i can wash it-yes, please. (vo) visit your local retailer and feel the tempur-pedic difference for yourself.

a lot of breaking news tonight including the attack on the ambassador in south korea. ambassador lippert was assaulted by a knife 10 inch knife. we learned he's having surgery right knew. police have a suspect in custody. this is new video of the suspect on the floor. he was attending the breakfast with the ambassador belongs to the group the ambassador was talking to. paula hancocks joins me again. we understand you have new information about this attacker. >> reporter: that's right,

anderson. we understand from the man in the photo, this man named kim is the same man who actually attacked the japanese ambassador back in 2010 in south korea. this is when he threw a slab of concrete at the ambassador. the ambassador was not injured or affected by this but we do understand he does have a previous criminal record. we've also seen that he heads up a blog online and in that blog we see a photo of him from february 24th where he's protesting outside the u.s. embassy against these joint-military drills between the u.s. and south korea which angered north korea so much saying they are jeopardizing the relations between north and south and jeopardizing family reunions between north and south. clearly, we can see he does have a history of being angry about what the u.s. is doing. clearly, police will be looking at that very closely. anderson? >> raises more questions about the security situation, how much

did they vet the people in the room and what needs to change moving forward and other u.s. ambassadors in other places considered safe. paula hancocks, appreciate it your reporting. >> beautiful right? something special. such a beautiful day. >> absolutely. now coming to legacy the forest of birch.