led on the russian government to conduct a prompt and transparent investigation into the murder the highest profile assassination during the tenure of president putin. the chances of such a thing actually happening, however, seem unlikely at best. you saw anthony bore dane talking with russian opposition figure boris who was shot to death in moscow friday night, but we have breaking news on another brazen attack. this one targeting an american ambassador. this is cn tonight. i'm don lemon. the u.s. ambassador to south korea, mark lipford, slashed moments before he was about to deliver a speech in seoul. we'll have the very latest on the attack. also the boston marathon bomber goes on trial. dramatic and emotional testimony from survivors and a blunt

admission from joe saar tsarnaev. will the victims finally get justice? and this has everybody talking. >> you think being gay is a choice? >> absolutely. radio why do you say that? >> because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight, and when they come out, they're gay. >> that was, of course the man a lot of republicans think might run for president.

ails at this point. he was -- the beatification of north and south korea. he just sat down to his breakfast, bfs to start eating and a man named kim in his 50s attacked him with a knife on his right cheek and also on his hand. now, the man that was overpowered, he has been detained. he also now, we understand been taken to a clinic himself as he has been injured, but the ambassador was rushed to the hospital before being transferred to a larger hospital. now, as for the motive we heard the suspect as he was being transferred on a gurney where he was being taken to a clinic. he was being shouting about the u.s. military drills with south korea. he was condemning those drills saying that they prevent unions between north and south koreans. we also know this is not the

first attack this man has made. back in 2010 he attacked a japanese ambassador to seoul. he tried to throw a piece of cement at him. the ambassador was fine but he does have a precedent of attacking ambassadors. we also know that on february 24th he was photographed -- he put that photo on his blog shown protesting outside the u.s. embassy. protesting against these military drills. so of course the question now is about security and the fact that this man was able to sit at the table right next to the u.s. ambassador jury this event. don. >> thank you, paula. i want to bring in cnn national security analyst juliet. juliet you say this is a highly unusual attack and it's very alarming. why do you say that? >> well most of these countries have different threat assessments. that's how the state department judges who is going to get what

kind of diplomatic security. you can imagine the ambassador in iraq is essentially surrounded by a military to protect him. south korea, despite everything going on in north korea, is relatively calm. this is an ambassador who wanted to as well as often acted like a member of the public. he is seen walking his dog. he is very accessible. that's what we want from our diplomats. so this attack while just one person who has political vengeance, happened and happened in a country that almost everyone didn't anticipate. that's what makes it nerve racking. the other thing is ambassadors are hard targets, and they are very public targets. we have 25,000 troops in south korea. those are easier targets in some ways because there's more of them. this is very much a statement towards obama and his administration and an ambassador who essentially represents obama in south korea. >> and the question is why was this man allowed to get so close

to him? tell us about -- what about his security detail? >> so the security detail would be both some state department security detail and state diplomatic southwest detail but most -- under most rules, the host country is responsible for the security of the ambassador so this is a public event. it was an invitation event, and kim, the person who attacked him, was sort of a ticketed member of the breakfast -- of the event. he got in and then made the attack and got that close to the ambassador. obviously, there's going to be a new threat assessment about protecting our ambassador there and anywhere elsewhere there are public debates about the presence of u.s. troops. this is also true in japan, of course. in south korea there is just a strong sentiment that the time has come for the u.s. troops to leave, that they are -- that they represent a hostile environment visa vi north korea, and we're in the middle of these annual training exercises that

occur in almost every country, and they are viewed at least by the perpetrator as hostile, and that's why they used this opportunity. >> sheila i want you to stand by. now i want to turn to the boston marathon bombing. the trial of joe har tsarnaev continued today with the most disturbing testimony about the bloodshed at the finish line of one of the world's great sporting events. cnn alec anneder field is in boston for us. i should warn you some of the video -- powerful first day in court. what did some of the victims testify to? >> this city has lived the aftermath of those events but when we saw those images laid on the screen and when we heard the voices, saw the victims, and then the suspect all in one room truly moving and in a very heart breaking way. one video in particular seemed

to really stir the courtroom. we heard from the manager of a running store. we showed video from outside -- then you see the managers snap back into action. people run into the store looking for cover. the manager goes out on to the street, and he testifies, don, about taking t-shirts and other pieces of clothe and using them as turnequettes to triage people splayed out there. these are stories we know but the jurors got to hear them after the prosecution laid out their case against their suspect. he faces 30 charges. 17 of those charges, don, carrying a possible death sense. >> what with tsarnaev's demeanor as he watched this graphic video, alexandra? >> his demeanor don, in this case is going to be so key, so critical because when the prosecution laid out their case then the defense got to make their opening statement, and i think in a move that sort of shocked maybe a lot of people

the defense conceded to the facts of the case. they said yes, in fact dzhokhar was involved in this string of heinous crimes but the defense case really now rests on who is dzhokhar tsarnaev. they are trying to say he is the pawn of the older brother, who is the evil mastermind. they are trying to build sympathy for dzhokhar when the jury has to decide whether or not there is a death penalty applied in this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev didn't do anything you wouldn't have expected today perhaps. he was quiet in the courtroom. there was no opportunity for him to speak. he didn't take any opportunity to draw attention to himself. he sat there. he watched the proceedings. at some point he appeared to sort of straighten up and watch as everyone else did when those very graphic images were shown on those screens. don. >> all right. alexandra, stand by. i want to bring in juliet to weigh in on this. you and i both chord the boston marathon bombing for weeks and weeks. why is this important that dzhokhar tsarnaev's trial is happening in federal court and not in a military tribunal?

>> it's important to take everyone back immediately in that week after the marathon when there was a lot of debate and a lot of politicians coming forward saying why are they going to put him in a federal courtroom? the military tribunal should be used for this, and there was a strong statement by the u.s. attorney carmen ortiz, as well as president obama, that our justice system can handle these types of trials. so sort of just as a starting point, how important it is to make a statement to the world that whatever you do to us our criminal justice system can work to effectively prosecute an individual even if they're accused of a crime, so i think it's an important statement not just to ourselves and to boston but obviously to the world. >> what statement is the obama administration making by making this a death penalty case? >> well i have to admit i have been wrong on this. i have been saying that this is

going to plea that there was no facts contested, we're just going to get to the sentencing phase. clearly there's just a disagreement about dzhokhar's guilt, and i describe the defense strategy as good brother, bad brother. as the one that's living is the good accident in quotes brother. the one that was moved to terrorism because of his older brother who had no choices, who was, you know malleable and young and all these things they're going to try to claim to keep him off death row, and i think the prosecution just simply believes no this was the bad brother. this was also the bad brother, and that's where the proof through the witnesses and others is going to come out, and that's why the defense attorney conceded at the first second there's no question here. he is guilty. it's just whether he is you know -- he is guilty enough to put him to death. >> all right.

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>> they wanted the boston marathon bombing trial, and one by one survivors took the stand to tell their stories of the terror attack. joining me now is psychologist of the leave institute, juliet cayenne is back with us, and also john the boston globe photographer who captured this iconic image. look at that. does seeing all this new video bring you back to that day? >> not only does the video, but the testimony. i was watching the twitter feed come in from our reporters of sydney coccoran describing what happened to her, and i was there when it happened to her. you know i saw her the two guys that saved her life.

how she described how she felt and her life ligue her, and she felt peaceful that, they thought she was going die. i saw her laying on the sidewalk, and she was pale as a ghost. it was emotional for me to read what she had to say. are. >> as we were getting the news we thought it was bad, and -- it really was a horrible time. were you surprised by jude a clark's statement we know tsarnaev did this? >> the evidence is overwhelming. you know judy clark and the defense team has a good relationship with these jurors. they can't argue that he is innocent when there's such overwhelming evidence and when they get to the punishment phase, when they are arguing for reasons that the jury should

vote to save his life. so what she did is actually very unusual in my experience extremely unusual, but it's very much not a surprise for me knowing judy clark and knowing what that defense team is up against. >> when you were fwaug the opening phase here what important points did judy clark make during opening that you think will come up again in the penalty phase as you mentioned? >> well you know her comment about good brother, versus bad brother, with all due respect, i think you are touching on a little bit of a theme there, but there are much stronger themes that judy clark clearly is pressing. one of them is

s a really important issue here that's come up in other terrorism cases i have worked on over and over again, which is if you decide speaking to the jurors during the penalty phase, if you decide to put hem to death, remember that note. he will get what it was he was looking for. for what he believed he was looking for, which is -- >> do you think that will weigh -- you think that his age, being a martyr all of that you think that's going to weigh on the jury? >> it will weigh on the juror who has a hardened heart and angry and wants to punish him and will think, hmm, life in prison actually would be a better deal but the bigger job and the bigger focus, i think, with ms. clark's opening statements was to begin the process of humanizing this man. he started out with these horrific pictures and ms. clark immediately said this is a tragedy that brought us all here together. us here tonight together.

horrific tragedy. she is going to have to humanize him and that means telling his story and getting people interested in who is this young man. >> can i read a part of it? the u.s. government is killing our innocent civilians, but most of you already know that. as a muslim i can't stand to see such evil go unpunished. we muslims are one body. you hurt one, you have hurt us all. no i don't like killing innocent people. it is forbidden in islam, but due to said -- it is allowed. all credit goes to --" we can't understand it here. juliet, he is saying he doesn't like doing it but he in some way feels that he has to do it. >> right, and that -- this is going to be why the boat itself

has come up as evidentiary debate and what pieces of what he said or what he wrote on the boat are going to be relevant. i read that as a sort of you know if i were the defense attorney it's a lot of cliches. it's a lot of cliches of someone who has been fed something about what they think martyrdom or islam or muslim terrorism is. >> it will come up -- >> it will come up. >> the thing he said about martyrdom, if you give him a death penalty, he gets what he wants, and then a different issue, which is sort of interesting, about jealousy that maybe dzhokhar was jealous that his brother was now facing or had martyrdom because he had died both by gunshot wounds and because he had been run over and so it's raising enough issues so that we all know he is guilty

but in the sentencing part there's enough questions about whether the death penalty is the best or right solution for what's going on and, plus let's remember, this is a state that has not executed someone for a very long time. couple of decades. a state that is predominantly aebt death penalty. to move a jury that might be willing to actually do it she's trying to put sort of dents into that momentum. >> john i know that you were struck today by the testimony about crystal campbell. why? >> i photographed crystal campbell when she was still alive, and i remember there was one moment when i first got to the sidewalk when the smoke had cleared, and she was hugging her friend karen, who testified about that moment and i looked at my footage of the photos that i took and about three or four minutes after i took that photo, crystal was, you know passed

away and i was struck by what karen said that you know she was holding her hand and crystal said my legs hurt and then her hand went limp and i just remember that day, and i remember that moment and i just you know -- those are some of the worst, darkest days in boston and, you know i just feel so bad that you know the victims had to go up there and say what they had to say, but i think, you know i got a text from sydney after, and she told me that she feels good, and i think this has been building up inside some of them that needed to tell this story and face tsarnaev in person. >> some people lost loved ones. they lost limbs. over the year you have been having to deal with this as

well. having to capture the images doing your job and then having to live with those images and i wonder today what was the most poignant one? was there one that really just brought -- you said it brought it back to you, but that it really just hit home for you? >> well there was -- it was two moments. there was a moment that wasn't even at the courthouse. it was across the street. it was a construction site, and the workers were lowering this retaining wall down into the ground to pour concrete, and somebody had spray painted boston strong in red on that wall and i photographed it and i thought, you know that claim really never went out that boston is strong and can deal with it and we can face this adversity, we can look a terrorist in the eye today and then i thought of how strong that sydney coccoran was to be able to go up there and sit and

tsarnaev is 25 feet away from her. they're almost the same age. she's 19 years old, and he is 21 years old. having her mother celeste sit in the front row, and she lost both her legs. that's one of the bravest things i have ever heard of anybody doing. >> john juliet and dr. javier amador thank you. dr. ben carson has his eye on the white house, but did he hurt his chances by saying that being gay is a choice? he is apologize, but is it a sign of trouble for the republican party? we'll debate that next.

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carson about his position on various issues when he said this about gay people. >> dower think they have control over their sexuality? >> do you think it's a house? >> absolutely. >> because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight, and when they come out, they're gay, so did something happen while they were in there? >> well tonight carson is apologizing saying that his words did not fully reflect his stance on gay issues. in a statement here's what he writes. "he says i do not pretend to know how every individual came to their sexual orientation. i regret that my words to express that concept were hurtful and divisive. for that i apologize. unreservedly to all that were offended." carson is moving ahead towards a possible run for president. even launching an exploratory committee that allows him to raise money. so did he hurt his chances, his own chances?

i'm joined by ben ferguson cnn political commentator and host "the ben ferguson show" and -- both cnn political comment ators. i'm going to ask you all before we start this. so mark you're a heterosexual man. can you choose to be gay? >> i think that people can choose particular acts but i don't think people can choose their desire. i don't think people can choose who they love. that's a biological reality, and i think that's part of the problem. he is confusing with what people do with how people are and how they feel. that's really dangerous. >> can you choose to be homosexual or -- >> i think people choose to do different things every day, including if they choose to be gay or bisexual or transgendered or whatever it may be. there are a lot of people that choose different things. i don't think that is some shoe shocking new revelation. >> you yourself -- you can choose to be gay? >> do it then. do it.

>> if i decided one day to choose to be gay. i'm not gay. that's pretty obvious. i'm heterosexual. i think there are people that choose to be for example, bisexual. can you choose to be bisexual? the answer is yes. >> i asked you about you, but anyways, go ahead, sally. >> no but -- >> can you choose to be straight? >> look here's my point. i wrote a piece about this today saying that i agree with dr. carson sort of. you know look i don't think -- this september to me a practical issue of you know let's parse every gay person every straight person in america and when was their sexual identity formed? was it in utero, kindergarten it was in college? is orange the new black and prisons are the new women's colleges? i'm a little confused there. to me that's not the issue. the issue is what should be in the future and in my case and in my vision for the future high pressure all our vision of the future if it is fully morally

socially culturally and politically equal, 1,000% equal to be gay, then by then by conclusion it should be 1,000% perfectly fine to choose to be gay whether or not an individual chooses to or not. i don't, however, think that's exactly the argument that dr. carson was intending to make. >> he brought up the prison thing, and, mark i think your point is right on. it's that just because you may have a sexual experience or a sexual encounter with someone of the same sex that does not make you gay. it's whether you choose to live with that person have a relationship with that person have a family with that person and that's more -- that's more about being gay than a sexual act. okay. i want to talk about this. >> you ewes just used the word choose. that's what's interesting to me. you literally said it depends on what you choose. if you choose to have a rep of someone with the same sex. if you choose to have a family with them. if you choose to live with them.

you just said it's a choice that people make if they choose so why was it shocking earlier? >> that's not what i'm saying. >> because the difference ben, is what dr. carson is referring to is an argument that comes out of the right wing anti-gay mentality that if you choose to be gay, you can, therefore and should therefore, choose not to be gay and the fact that that sexual identity is a fungable choice is an argument for denying equal rights and fair treatment, which, by the way, dr. carson went on to -- i don't think the choice thing isn't the issue here. the issue is why don't we treat people equally regardless of their identity however they come to it? >> if you tloichb what conservatives say and what ben carson said, even what he said this morning, he said i have no problem with having civil unions. i have taken heat from conservatives who say that i'm giving in because i'm in favor of civil unions. his point was he does not want to redefine marriage between one

man and one woman in any way outside of that setting. he thinks there should be a right and -- >> that was the second -- there is no -- there is no definition of marriages between a man and woman. marriage is between two people. mark -- >> well also ben, once upon a time marriage literally originally meant that women were the property of men. i had no problem redefining that. did you? >> i have no problem redefining that. of course not. >> the course -- the courts in many states and the supreme court has decided that marriage is between two people whether it's the same sex or opposite sex. we'll move on. that is settled. that is not even the question anymore. i spoke with shawn wrerl tonight. he is an author who bytes writes about his experience in a u.s. prison. here's what he told me. listen. >> there's all kinds of stuff going on in prisons from

gang-rape to execution, to people who -- to people who have gay relationships openly and they're having secret gay relationships in prison. when they get out, they then go back to their wives and girlfriends and don't continue in the homosexual lifestyle, and that's actually called gay for stay. that's the term for it. >> so now that carson has apologized, where didoes this take the conversation whether gay is a choice? go ahead, mark. >> i hope that it's a conversation in a more interesting and complex direction. ben carson is saying essentially that gay is not a natural state. that straight is a natural state. people make other choices. prison is an example of that and i think when you listen what happens it's in transitional moments, whether it's prison or rehab, the military. all the anecdotal accounts say

that people make plex sexual decisions. women often talk about college they experiment. men often experiment in college tooshgs but don't have the public space to talk about it because of how we think of masculinity. the overall point is that sexuality is complex and exists on a complex scale, and that's the conversation we need to have. we need to create a space for people to be able to do that without being stigmatized or marginalized, and according to ben carson demonized. he didn't say this was just something unnatural. he also compared it to beastiality at one point. >> i got to run. i want to know ben, what does this do for republicans who wanted to get out of that space of talking about social issues and now ben carson has dragged it back into -- >> it's going to move on pretty quickly. i think most candidates have worked with their staff and made sure they understand exactly how they're going to describe it. ben carson is not a guy that's like a jeb bush or mitt romney where he practices every single answer in a room for 28 hours.

>> what's scary -- is he the number two republican candidate, though in some polls, and that's really scary. >> people like him because he is blunt. hillary clinton was -- >> good luck with that ben carson. >> officials in ferguson. taking action in the wake of the scathing justice department report on engrained patterns of discrimination. an employee accused of sending racest emails is fired. that story is next. we can see all the bacteria that still exists. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher brighter denture every day.

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breaking news out of ferguson missouri tonight. three employees of the ferguson police department will lose their jobs. that is according to a source close to the investigation of racial bias e-mail. two of the individuals are officers, and one is an employee at the department. cnn sarah seidner has more on the fall-out in ferguson after the justice department report. >> ferguson officials responding to a scathing federal report

highlighting racism at its worst. >> we must do better want only as a city, but as a state and a country. we must all work to address issues of racial disparity in all aspects of society. >> the department of justice investigation blasts ferguson police and its courts saying they helped lay the ground work for the unrest that happened after the police killing have michael brown. >> of course violence is never justified, but seeing it in this context amid a highly toxic environment defined by mistrust and resentment stoked by years of bad feelings and spurred by illegal and misguided practices, it's not difficult to imagine how a single tragic incident set off the city of ferguson like a powder keg. >> reporter: the doj points to the statistics as proof. blacks in ferguson twice as leeblg to be searched than whites though whites were found to have more couldn't tra band. at least 85% of those pulled over arrested or ticketed for

traffic violations were black, and the justice department is saying it was money, not public safety that the department and city focused on. blacks paying the highest price. >> the city relies on the police force to serve essentially as a collection agency for the municipal court rather than as a law enforcement entity. >> that comes as no surprise to reverend derek robinson who became a protest leader in ferguson. he says ferguson police once pulled him over saying his taillight was out, but then asked to search his car. >> and i told him no. i said that you have no reason to search my car. i will not. so then he would sayly charge you with fail our to comply. >> so you got a ticket? >> yes, ma'am. >> for failure to comply? >> for failure to comply. >> failure to comply what? >> with the search of the vehicle. >> reporter: now residents say they are vindicated and also disgusted after seeing the damning emails unearthed by the doj, including racist jokes, several targeting the president and first lady.

one includes a photo of bare-chested women dancing in what appears to be africa with a caption saying "michelle obama's high school reunion." another shows president obama as a chimpanzee and yet another says obama won't be in office long because what black man holds a steady job for four years? >> let me be clear, this type of behavior will not be tolerated, and the ferguson police department or in any department in the city of ferguson. >> and the mayor made clear that during that press conference that one of the people who was accused of sending those emails has already been terminated and then i spoke with a source who has knowledge of the investigation who said the two others will also no longer be working for the department. we are, you know hearing some protesting now. this is the first real public response that we've heard. we've heard from other folks in the political realm who were very upset with what they heard coming out of the doj and out of the ferguson police department but you can hear there are about

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ferguson police department employees will lose their jobs but is this enough to fix what eric holder calls a highly toxic environment? joining me now mark rnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney kevin jackson, executive director the black sphere and the black conservative coalition. neil is the attorney for officer darren wilson and charles is jesse -- professor of law at harvard law school. last we spoke, you said you wanted to get more information from the justice department. the report came out today. does that change anything --

change your mind or did you learn anything new? what do you think of it? >> i was glad to see the report. i was glad to see 86 pages where they literally went through witness by witness and took it apart and said look this is the unavoidable conclusion. what i who really like to see done is for them now to go forward with that and say to everyone who had any doubts about this you should have confidence in this investigation. this is the unavoidable conclusion. what i really would have liked to have seen today is for the attorney general to say, look it was justifiable. he avoided those words. he avoided carefully those words. that is the only conclusion that you can reach here. i would really like to see the same vigor now as he had when he was coming to ferguson during the protest and say have confidence in this report. i haven't seen that i yet. >> he called the police department highly toxic. that's a quote. he said constitutional rights of

residents were violated. what is the most troubling finding for you? >> all of it's troubling. i think ferguson has -- only four -- members of the police force. very few people in the city council. people going to jail. it's just wrong, and i think this report is the beginning, but we have to understand that we have to really transform ferguson what's going in ferguson and make it become one of the greatest cities in the world. right now it's not that and i think the people want that to happen, but i think we got a lot of work to do before that happens. >> all right. to mark o'meara now. the findings are disturbing. who said wow? was that you, kevin? >> kevin jackson. yeah. >> yeah. why did you say wow? >> spoken like a person who knows nothing about ferguson. that's exactly what the harvard

professor talked about. look, the fact of the matter is this this is -- >> hold up. hold up. hold up. don't say a harvard professor. i grew up in a community just like ferguson. i grew up in a community where my family -- >> i don't care whether you grow up here. i happen to live here. >> i want you to nabbed it too. don't be talking about the harvard professor. >> one at a time. one at a time. >> professor, i'll -- professor, let kevin speak. professor, let kevin speak. >> he can -- >> i'll let you respond. >> the fact is -- >> so kevin, go ahead. >> he knows nothing about what -- he knows nothing about ferguson and what's happening here. eric holder -- right now the attorney general of missouri is suing nine different jurors dicks that are run by blacks. they are double the egregious nature of what you would call ferguson. they're double that. they're doing 30% of their income or more from the overwhelming number of black constituents in their jurisdictions, and some cases

50% of these cities revenue comes from 90% of black folks, and -- >> what are you saying? >> what i'm saying is if eric holder wants to make a poster child out of what's going on in the community in terms of black policing he should be looking at other jurisdictions. he is looking at ferguson as if they're some cess pool. >> are you finished? the reality is that aircraft holder is -- >> i want to interrupt wrush. >> the community -- can i finish? looking at communities that are not functional looking at people who are not going to school looking at people who are being arrested saying something is wrong in ferguson something is wrong with a lot of cities across america. i think that's the problem. that's what i have been talking about. we need to address the issues of education, jobs make sure people have homes, make sure that we're prosecuting people who are not doing the right thing, that they need to be doing. that's what i have been doing. my whole life. that's what i'm teaching about.

talking about the realities of what's happening in communities, not just the theories about what's happening in communities. >> all right. we need to let mark o'meara say a word and get something back in. mark the findings are disturbing. they're talking about one man arrested for not wearing a seat belt and giving his name as mike instead of michael. others arrested for a manner of walking along the roadway. are you surprised by this? do you think it's an ugly truth in many minority neighborhoods? >> see, that's the thing. there is a disease to the american criminal justice system, and it's below the surface, but it is sort of rising to the surface, blistered, if you will in ferguson. we cannot make believe that ferguson is the only town that has a racist problem as far as law enforcement. what i think we should do is take ferguson and make it an example. there's no question that it's an indictment by the justice department to say that ferguson did everything that they've deny for the past several years, but now that it is the focus, just because of mike brown's death,

now that it's the focus, we have to look at it and say we can do better. we're going to take ferguson. it's got to go ground zero up. there's nobody in that department -- i know neil will disagree -- nobody in that departments should sur vif for this reason. not that they're all bad. there's absolutely no trust in that department and everyone in the nation is looking at it. start from ground zero. doj monitoring, and five years from now we can look back and say ferguson was what it was. look what it is today. >> not an insult, and it's an acknowledgment. not an insult to ferguson. you cannot look at those statistics and say that i'm insulting ferguson. ferguson insults itself, and we have to fix it. >> pine hurst has stopped -- >> neil -- not kevin jackson. neil how is your client feeling today? >> he is glad it's over. it's been a long road for him.

it's changed his life. it will change his life forever. he now has to get on with that life, and we now have to get on with their life. my biggest concern about the events that have happened today is that the attorney general made it sound like the violence was okay because of these allegations of systemic problems. the violence is never okay. we have to deal with these problems, but we don't deal with them through violence. >> if you were there, don, if you went out and talked to people that were out there doing the protesting if you asked ten people why they were there, you got ten different answers. they weren't out there because they were mad at the municipal courts. they were mad at many many many things. look, let's -- in order to have these conversations, let's make sure we're talking about the true problems. >> that is it for us tonight. i'm don lemon. thanks for watching. see you back here tomorrow

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