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eons have been left to faith. thank you for joining us. be sure to record outfront to watch us anytime. live coverage continues with "ac360." good evening. thanks for joining us. the day began with the delta airliner sliding off the runway in new york ends with the wreckage of harrison ford's vintage plane. world war ii military trainer on a los angeles area golf course and mr. ford reportedly in the hospital. the plane went down a short distance from santa monica municipal court where mr. ford keeps a number of aircraft and the emergency call from pilot and air traffic control shortly after takeoff and just seconds before the crash. >> immediate request. ryan 178. clear to land. >> 178, running three. clear to land. >> did you see the last location? >> i didn't.
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it looks like it shortened the runway up. >> harrison ford is an experienced pilot, flown fixed wing and helicopters for several decades. police and fire officials spoke to reporters. details on that in a moment from our youngkyung lah but first, carlos gomez who works across the street from the golf course. carlos i understand you heard the crash. what exactly did you hear and then see? >> reporter: >> well i was inside the house when i heard the tremendous noise and then see what's going on and then i hear a lot of ambulance around. so then we come out on the street and then i see that plane on the floor on the ground and then i saw some people playing golf trying to pull the iron out of the plane. i saw when they put the guy on the ground and then he started moving his arm and then his legs. it was like good he's alive. >> so he wasn't standing up
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immediately. they laid him out on the ground? >> yeah. >> there were some reports of blood on his face. were you able to see what kind of condition he was in? >> well i'm not really sure about it. i don't see no blood at all and believe me i was very nervous about what happened because this is not the first time. this is the fifth time it happens. and i was pretty nervous about it. >> and then did you see him being put into an ambulance? >> no i don't see that. i just saw when they put him on the ground. that's all i see. >> the golf course is very close to home so it could have been much worse. their home is very close to this golf course, correct? >> yes. >> could have been a lot worse. carlos i appreciate you being on.
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joining us aviation analyst and private pilot, miles o'breen and david soucie. miles, what do you make of this plane? you know this airport and there have been complaints about this airport before. what do you see happening here? >> a couple things about the airports. been there since 1919. historically an important arraignment airport. it's been there before there were houses. when you take off from santa monica airport and nine times out of ten, maybe more you head off to the west because that's the way the wind flows there and when you take off the thing you do, they tell you to sidestep to a narrow golf course the golf course in question here in order to reduce the amount of noise that neighbors might be hearing. flying over the golf course on departure is part of the
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routine. sounds like he got in this situation, a vintage 1920s world war ii trainer. would have been sitting in the backseat if alone, that's how you fly it solo. over the golf course anyway because it's part of the routine and on the radio call he had an engine out. en engine failed for some reason. he could go toward the beach, which is what a lot, in flight school they tell you go straight it's better than turning because you can glide longer or try to make it to the runway. clearly, he was trying to get back to the runway and didn't quite make it but fortunately in this case he was over a golf course. >> and wisely maintaining position over that golf course when he was going back. he would have had to jog a bit to make the landing but wanted to clearly stay over the golf course as long as he could if he did go down. >> yeah. what i see here is good piloting response. and listening to that radio call he sounded like he had his wits about him. calm under the circumstances. >> let's listen to the radio
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call again. >> 52178. requesting immediate request. >> runway clear to land. >> 573. >> clear to land. >> lost location. >> three, i didn't. it looked like it was short of the runway by the vor. >> it sounded like he was down. >> engine out. immediate return. and the tower not fully understanding the situation say, okay land on 21 which would have been flying around the run and make it turn which obviously wasn't going to happen. he had to go back the other direction if he was going to make it. he was trying to make it and didn't quite. the fact he was sitting in that backseat might have been very important. i am curious about the fact that there was no fire. you know obviously, that would be one of the things they'll look into. the amount of fuel on board the aircraft. >> other eyewitnesss said he was
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taken out of the aircraft. often, they try to get away in case a fire breaks out. >> no signs of that here. so this is an old radio engine on an old airplane. it's important they are maintained well. engines do quit on airplanes. when you have one quit you have to be attuned to possible emergency landings. >> investigators on the scene right now. i want to go to kyung lah standing by close to the aircraft. what are you seeing what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, anderson, we're very very close to this particular plane. i'm probably about 30 feet away and i want to actually give you a closer look of the plane itself from our vantage point which might explain some of the things you and miles are talking about. take a look right at the very front of the plane. you can see that that top part looks like it's almost been knocked off. basically when the impact happened the front of the plane, the nose appears to have been knocked off. but look at the body of the plane. there is no covering. this is a vintage plane. but it looks like there really
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was no direct impact on those two seats. if he was seated in the back that would explain certainly if there were not very very serious injuries. the other thing i want to show you is if we could take a wider look at this see how small this area is. you can see it's just this one strip of green here. where i'm standing it's 30 feet away. the house i'm looking at over to my left, they're right across the street. i'm going to have you spin all the way around. as you look past the media here and the live trucks here look at how close that house is. this is an entire congested area it's a beach community. the houses are very close together, very densely populated. what you notice when you come back in this area in the neighborhoods, a lot of these houses have signs that say no jets. there has been a lot of friction between the community and this particular airport saying that the houses the golf course the
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airport simply too close together but at least in this case it's a very good thing that this golf course was right here anderson. >> we should point out harrison ford is one of the people petitioning to keep this airfield open as well as some of the businesses that do business out of that airfield. david soucie i'm also just getting some new information into cnn. the tail numbers match the tail numbers of planes harrison flown in the pass. n n n n3578 is to delaware. harrison ford is an experienced pilot. i remember he was involved in a hard landing in a helicopter. not only is he a fixed wing pilot, he was in another helicopter in another pilot while he was in the early days of him practicing flying helicopters. and they had a hard landing. so i mean he has a wide range of experience with a lot of different aircraft. >> he really does and he's been
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a great proponent for private aviation and putting things together. with that helicopter crash up in wyoming, it's something that really took some people by surprise because here comes harrison ford walking out of the forest. >> he takes part in search and rescue in the area in wisconsin where he lives as well as many other people are trained in that area to do. >> yeah. absolutely. absolutely. so he's very active in that but he's also again, a proponent of aviation. the fact that he has this classic aircraft too and he flies this thing regularly, what was interesting about this accident as miles pointed out, there was no fire which in this type of aircraft the fuel cells and the oil tanks are right up front, right in front of the pilot which has created problems in the past. it was an army trainer back in the '40s when it first started but only about 160 horsepower. more cars than that have it now. it can fly down to 60 or 70 miles an hour still continue to fly.
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so i think that had a lot to do with the fact to land in a small area and have very few actual injuries to his body right now. >> as we look at this live picture of the crash, what do you see in that? you said he was sitting most likely in the rear of the aircraft if you're flying solo that's what you do in this aircraft but it does seem like would it have impacted on the ground? if the engine had gone out, he would have just been kind of coasting? >> yeah he gliding in. i see the result of a well executed forced landing on a golf course that has hilly terrain terrain. it's going to do a number on the carriage the landing gear and you're not going to end smoothly but walk away. >> the propellers ripped off in that? >> it looks like it was but hard to say. it wouldn't have been spinning. >> propellers in the front. >> it's hard for me to see it. >> it looks like one propeller
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there. >> just one blade propeller on a radial engine and, you know, these vintage planes are, and a person like harrison ford who loves aircraft so much they're labors of love and what you want to do everything you can to keep them flying well. i imagine it was meticulously taken care of. >> i want to bring in tmz's le lebudiar. >> we don't know specifics about his injuries. there were people on the scene said they saw lacerations on his face and some bleeding. we have video we just got in going up on the site in just a few minutes, but you touched on something that i think is interesting that there was no flame. clearly they were not too concerned about any explosion or anything because we have video of them paramedics tending to harrison on the scene and there
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were probably i don't know 20 30 yards away from the plane. not that they got too far away and he looked okay on the ground. you know his feet were up. his knees were bent. they tried to put a brace underneath him to trnsansport him to the ambulance. not a lot of concern about explosion and i think that's interesting. what was the situation with fuel on the plane? the other thing you'll see in this video is just how close he was to these houses. and really i've spoken to a couple of friends who were at santa monica airport when this went down and said this is nothing short of heroic. he was so close to homes and clearly targeted this spot on the golf course because there are homes right next to this golf course. so for him to find this spot on the course to land and avoid homes is really what i've been told that said was heroic work on a pilot. an experienced pilot.
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probably less than 10 seconds away from the runway also. i mean less than a mile from the runway. almost made it back but clearly once he decided he wasn't going to make it found that spot and i imagine had to choose either this spot or someplace between there and the runway and that meant hitting houses. >> charles, i preeshlt you telling us what you know. we'll look for the video. harrison's son, ben ford said my dad is okay. he's an incredibly strong man. thank you for your thoughts and good vibes for my dad. in a situation where we've heard his voice in that recording, he sounds tense but obviously in control. >> yeah he's a great pilot. i've had the good fortune to meet with him and talk with him quite a few times about our shared love of aviation. he lives and breathings it. he's a student of aviation. understands how he's flying. he makes it a point to be the best at it.
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so he is as good a stick as you get in this world as we say among pilots. >> miles, david, we've got to take a quick break. more to come when we come back as this story unfolds. joined by a pilot who has flown with harrison ford and the airliner that slid off a runway in new york. talk about a scary experience for those passengers. talk to passengers who live through it. what they have to say about the icy arrival. look at how close it came to the icy waters off the runway. we'll be right back. fact. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil.
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we are looking at the wreckage of harrison ford's vintage plane on a golf course. just a block away from a residential neighborhood just a few seconds flying time from
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santa monica municipal airport. his son, ben ford tweeted, dad is okay. battered but okay. he's every man you think he is. thank you for your thoughts and strong vibes. fair to moderate condition. joing us on the phone, another eyewitness jeff irwin. what did you see and what did you hear? >> we were on the fifth floor and we saw the plane taking off. we heard it. looked up beautiful plane with stars and stripes underneath and then we heard the engine start to sputter and die. just as that happened we saw the pilot starting to turn back toward the airport. and it was clear to us he was just gliding then and he wasn't going to make it. we thought maybe he would land on the fareway but we saw the tree disasesable and then a loud boom. >> did you see anything after
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that? >> that's when we lost sight of the aircraft. later, we saw the actual plane and it looked as though the landing gear had collapsed and it landed flat on the ground. so he must have pulled up and then hit the trees and then just the plane just fell. but fortunately, he didn't hit the street or any pedestrians or any of that. so that was good. >> when you saw the plane coming back was the landing gear down do you remember? as i recall the landing gear was down or still down. i don't know if on that airplane the landing gear actually goes up into the craft, but yeah. it was down and we could see, it was just very obvious that this was not going to be good. so i'm super glad that he's okay relatively speaking. >> yeah. and it's an amazing thing. given the area given the closeness to some of these homes as you well know from playing on this. you think about how it could
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have been so much worse not just mr. ford but anybody else in that area. jeff i appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. thank you very much. joining us also on the phone is tom haynes who has flown with harrison ford. he's editor in chief of the airline owner and pilots association monthly magazine pilot. tom, thanks for being with us. as i said you have flown with harrison ford. what kind of a pilot is he? >> harrison is a very meticulous pilot. i have flown with him in his helicopter. the day i flow with him, he did the most thorough preflight i've seen anybody do ever on a helicopter and i know he routinely goes for recurrent training on a frequent schedule. and has a high profile and we know he's very careful about that. and does all the right things. >> he began -- he got his license in 1996 flying mostly out of wyoming and tooedederboro i
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understand but since then in a bunch of type of aircraft. do you know how often he flies, typically? >> he flies very frequently. he's got quite a number of airplanes. many of them several of them are from the world war ii era like the ryan pt 22 and he flies them all on a regular schedule maintains a lot of profishlt si in them. >> it's amazing to me he's not only rated in fixed wing aircraft but helicopters. how common is that for someone to have multiple certifications like that? >> probably 5% of the pilot population that has fixed wing and motor craft ratings. >> the amount of time that you need to get that kind of certification. how long a process is it? >> well getting a helicopter
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rating on to fixed wing certificate is a pretty lengthy process. you have to be dedicated and very committed to it and spend a lot of time to it. and i know that he has. the helicopter that he flies is a very sophisticated helicopter. so it's not just a training helicopter. it's a twin turbine, so he's very committed. >> tom, one of the things i had read about him is that when he was in college, he had dreamed of getting a pilot's license but he didn't have the money at the time. he said at the time it cost about $11 to hire an instructor back then and wasn't until he became successful later in life 52 or 53 when he was able to first get that pilot's license back in 1996. >> that's correct. he actually had a business jet he used for personal transportation and it was his pilot in the, one of the pilots in the jets that he tapped to be his flight instructor and paid
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for the pilot to become a flight instructor to teach harrison to fly and they've had a lifelong friendship ever since and fly there routinely and they're close pals. >> it's also amazing to me that he's taken part in search and rescue operations in wyoming where he has a house, as many people do in that region who are certified to fly, but that he's you know been actively engaged in search and rescue operations. >> yeah. and he has. he's also he flew one of his airplanes to haiti after the earthquake and transported doctors down there and supplies and was involved in the humanitarian mission and done search and rescue and is involved in other ways in using his airplanes to help folks. >> do you think he'll continue to fly? i mean obviously this kind of thing can happen to anybody. in your experience when somebody has an incident like this do they keep at it? >> i'm sure there are some people who drop out but i'm sure
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harrison won't. he's very committed to aviation. he loves to fly. he'll be back in the cockpit. i'm certain of that. >> tom, i appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. again, certainly know a lot of people are very concerned about harrison ford and amazed to see, and thankful he was able to essentially walk away from this. continue to be here with miles o'brien and david soucie. is it common miles, for somebody at age 52 53 to actually seek out and get their license? you think of it as somebody does when they're perhaps younger. >> when you think about the group of people we're talking about, people who are type a, motivated and successful enough afford the bill actually are more than you would think who come to it later in life because have a lifelong dream for it, they have another career that keeps them busy and then puts them in a position they can afford to do it. it's more common than you might
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think in the general aviation world. >> in the shot of the aircraft when you look at how close houses are to this golf course, to this santa monica municipal airport. this could have been so much worse not just for harrison ford but people who live in houses and buildings nearby. >> yeah. it's very true and it has been a lot of pressure on this airport to alleviate. that miles pointed out, you have to stay over the runway. i mean over the golf course, excuse me. but what's happening all over the country is the encroachment on the airports by the growth and it's become a problem more than just this airport but many airports. >> david, you investigate crashes. it seems like a relatively of the plane crashes we see, it's often small aircraft. is that simply a numbers game of how many there are out there? why is that? >> no actually there is a higher percentage of crashes
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private pilots and private aircraft. just simply because of the fact there's more that's true but the way they operate, the area they operate, and there is a level of experience that hasn't been met yet. remember most of the pilots in commercial aviation start as private pilots in small airplanes, so that's where the training ground is. so you would expect to see a little bit higher percentage of accidents in private aircraft handling and where they go and how they're used but as far as hazards to people on the ground i think that's where we have to be very careful about where we take off, how we take off and how we do these training maneuvers and there are regulations about that and where you can fly and when you do takeoff and landings when you're doing training. >> miles, often we see a vintage aircraft like this at an air show. how much maintenance is required on something like this versus, you know a modern day cessna or a modern day aircraft that a private pilot may fly? >> yeah. these things are bottomless pits
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of money. you really have to love them and want to care for them. >> it's like a classic car, except more complex than that. >> exactly. and some of them you can spend well into the seven figures getting these planes back into flying condition because in many cases -- >> are they using old parts that are rehabbed? >> a lot of times, you have to get the machine. >> make parts. >> make parts. it is just like anything. there is a world out there of people who fly old war birds like these, who trade information and find bone yards, spare parts but in some cases, you've got to make the part. you need to find somebody who's a good craftsman, understands it and has an appreciation for the technology of the 1940s and can be true to it and keep it safe. >> joining us on the phone is paul mythen who shot some of the flying video from the documentary, harrison ford just another pilot.
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it's interesting. i love the title of that documentary, just another pilot. for a lot of civilians, he may not be that way but in the flying community, that's how people view him, paul. >> it's correct. he likes the anonymity of being a pilot and just calling in on the radio as the airplane call number and not who he is. he can get away from the crowd and the craziness. and the refuge of the air, looking down at the god's eye view of the world. >> that's the appeal you think for him and other pilots? i've flown in a lot of small planes like this but never quite understand what the enjoyment is for the pilot. i mean what seemed to be a stressful thing, is it actually relaxing? >> well it can be. once you get above the traffic
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pattern and look down at the world and see how beautiful it is it's definitely relaxing. but, you know, it's also challenging dynamic environment. you've got the winds blowing you around. you've got to stay on course. you've got to manage your fuel which is a reason why a lot of planes don't land where they're supposed to land because they don't manage their fuel correctly but harrison has been a great pilot and you can see by the fact that he survived this forced landing that he is a skilled aviator. >> a landing like this paul in the hands of a less experienced pilot, it could have gone a lot of different ways right? >> sure. i mean just looking at the crash site. you see the trees nearby. there's a tree not too far behind the aircraft and had the wing click back. the airplane could have spun around been ejected, ended up upside down. that would have been nuts. so there was a plane crash in orlando on the edge of a golf course and unfortunately, they
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ran into a power pole on the edge of the golf course in the road and a lot of pilots was killed. so in this situation, i think they did an extremely good job of getting the airplane on the crowd and any landing you can walk away from is a good one. >> listen i appreciate you, paul talking to us. thank you so much and also it's fascinating to see the video you shot as part of your documentary, "harrison ford: just another pilot" in that picture we were showing there, miles, you see a pilot and a co-pilot. this harrison ford was solo and you point out he would have been sitting in the rear of the aircraft. >> correct. that's on the pt 22 if you're solo you're in the rear seat, that might have helped in this case. i think what we saw there, just listening to the radio call i'm so proud of him. he really nailed it. he was clearly focused. he's working on a problem. he corrected the tower when the tower said, well we'll send you a round of 21. he said no i'm coming in on 3.
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that's exactly how if pilot should have happenndled the situation and he did walk away. he's banged up but he will fly another day and probably fix that airplane and no one else is worse for the wear when people take this as opportunity for shut down the airport, i say there's a wreck on the freeway, do you say shut down the interstate? that's the same logic. >> flying an aircraft like this, which is open to the elements i assume that adds both another level of enjoyment for the pilot because you're out in the elements it doesn't make more difficult? >> it's just a thrill. a complete thrill to be out there. the wind is going by. there's no better view than when there's no window separating you and the world and there's no better thrill than to be doing aerobattics in an open cockpit. that's pure joy. why people do this it is relaxing in a different way to
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the extent that it is completely engrossing and taxing. for me, it clears off every other thing because if i'm not focused on surviving that flight landing that plane well i'm not going to make it and so that to me is a great relaxer. >> you're fully present in a way that nothing else can really interfere because you're so present in the mechanics of so present in the mental aspects of it. >> yeah it focuses you to be present in the moment. there is the thrill of doing it but there is a mental and physical mastery and a sense of engrossing focus which makes it pure joy and in the end, ultimately a relaxing thing. you don't take it lightly. it's not relaxing like lying on the couch watching tv but a form of relaxation i think. >> harrison ford's son, as you see on the screen saying his dad is okay battered but okay. we need to take a quick break. when we come back the delta airlines jet that arrived at laguardia airport at the runway
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harrison ford in the hospital with injuries from an emergency landing he made just after takeoff from santa monica municipal airport near los angeles. we've been talking about the kind of pilot he is. here's from the documentary "harrison ford: just another pilot." >> my duties and
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responsibilities are, calls the way. that's very restful for me. to see little towns, little airport. the people at those little airports. talk about flying and the scope of it but the history of the country, the way it grew up. that was beautiful. 8,500 feet. over briley idaho. not a bad way to spend the afternoon. >> not a bad way at all, except today it did go badly very quickly shortly after he took off from santa monica municipal airport. a tweet from the hospital dad is okay says ben ford. battered but okay. he's every bit the man you would think he is. he is an incredibly strong man. back with miles o'brien and
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david soucie, for viewers just joining us i want to show the landing call made to the control tower. let's listen in. >> 53178. engine failure. immediate return. >> ryan 1782. clear to land. >> got to go to 3. >> go 3. clear to land. >> did you see the last location? >> 3 departmentlooked like it was short of the runway by the v.o.r. >> as miles talked about earlier, initially, when he calls in people tell him to go around to a runway 21 or 2-1. and then it's up to the pilot to say, that's not going to happen. runway three. is that what went on there? >> david o'brien or david soucie? >> yes, precisely. on takeoff, what are you going
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to do? you do this all the time. where are you going to go what are you going to do? you should be thinking about that in the clinical periods of time. land or take off. and one of the things he could have done is gone straight and headed for the beach. he might have had the glide capacity on the beach but one of the most crowded beaches in the world, who knows what might have presented to him. he's over a golf course. he knows that is a safe place. he turns his airplane around and said i'm going to try to make it back to the runway this is the reverse, the reciprocal of the runway he took off on. he knows as a pilot if it's not the airplane, it's the golf course. he made every right decision. that was textbook communication. he was clear, he was concise. he was very obvious what his intentions were and the tower understood what was going on. >> it's interesting, miles. because when somebody at his level, when you're working for,
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you know major motion picture companies and you have contracts, ceos sometimes have to sign contracts to limit what they can actually do to put themselves at risk. what kind of vacations they can take in terms of where they can go and how they travel or have to travel have to have a copilot with them if they're a pilot. it's interesting that despite all his success and all the projects high level projects he's involved with he must work this out so he's still able to fly. >> yeah. i interviewed him years ago. he was talking about, i forget back when i was doing the morning show here and we had a conversation in the green room before about his flying. so i said how do you work it in? he said i put it in my contract. >> is that right? >> he said i insist and the studio went crazy and said to insist i have a pilot with me but if i'm going to fly on this tour in the middle of a tour promoting a movie, i'll go on my viation but they insist i have a
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second pilot with me. in general, flying jets like that there are few single pilot. it's frankly a good idea to have a second pilot with you anyway especially when you're trying to make a deadline as it were but he made that a part of his deal every time. >> to my understanding too is where he got his helicopter license. it was actually while shooting a film in hawaii. the only way to apparently get to the set was fly a helicopter and obviously there was a pilot flying it but he started becoming interested in learning to fly a helicopter then and by the end of the film shoot from what i've read he had a certain number of hours in the, at the controls with obviously the copilot there. >> yeah. what a great -- i can aat the times attest to this. if you can combine your love to living that's a good place to be. he managed to pull that off. >> david soucie i'm interested in the kind of investigation we see investigators now on the scene and kyung was reporting
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that at the top of this hour. what kind of an investigation goes into this as compared to what we see on obviously a larger aircraft? >> well what's happening right now is if there's a local ntsb investigator they'll come out there first. if the ntsb investigator is not there, a go team for another accident probably are right now, it's delegated to the faa and the faa inspectors the position i had, would go out to see what happened. what they're looking at right now is the angle of attack where the aircraft hit the tree before it fell. mostly what they're looking for is if the fuel cells were full what positions of the switches are inside the aircraft right now. they're looking for things that might indicate why the engine failed already. subsequent to that the aircraft will be taken, but engine specifically seeing if there is something to cause this to happen. and if he's healthy enough to do that he'll be able to tell us
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what happened of course. >> david soucie thank you very much. miles o'brien as well. we'll continue to follow this through the evening. we are live until the 10:00 hour tonight. i want to show you live pictures from new york's laguardia airport right now. cranes surrounding a delta airlines jet, preparing at some point to hoist it off an embankment short of the water. delta flight 1086 with 132 people on board. slid off laguardia, nearly into the frigidly ice cold water, frigid ice cold water where new york's east river meets flushing bay. we have more now from phil ripley. >> we have an aircraft off the runway. >> reporter: panic at new york eats 's laguardia airport. >> airport is closed. the airport is closed. we've got a 3-4. please advise crash rescue laguardia closed at this time.
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>> reporter: after 11 a.m. 127 passengers and five crew members on board. just as it comes in for a landing, it skids off the runway sliding for a terrifying 20 seconds before the nose of the plane crashes through a fence. the plane stops just feet from icy waters. >> we felt the wheels hit the runway and we did not feel the wheels take traction and we started to skid. and we skid to the left side of the runway and continue to skid. so we literally were a couple feet away from heading into the water. >> reporter: one frightened passenger tweeted we just crash landed at lga. i'm terrified. please. within minutes, emergency vehicles on the scene helping passengers evacuate. port authority officials say the mrnl slides did not deploy. in this video, you can see people exiting the plane on the wing itself in heavy snow. >> we are getting off the plane, i'm jumping out the window sliding down the wing.
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they're like hurry up. i see gas coming out of the wing. >> there's leaking fuel on the side. >> you said leaking fuel? >> affirm. his wing is ruptured. >> leaking a gallon a minute. the leak was stopped. >> reporter: at least two dozen passengers were injured and three were taken to hospitals. this video was shot by new york giants tight end larry da knell, a passenger on the plane. he wasn't hurt. the md88 briefly circled due to the snowy conditions before it was cleared for landing. airport officials say the runway was plowed just minutes before and two planes recorded good braking action shortly before the incident. for now, passengers are reeling from the close call. >> i'm still in shock. it's really starting to hit me as i watch the footage it was a frightening experience. >> will joining me from laguardia airport. this is one of the busiest
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airports in the country. what officials have been doing to get it up and running? i assume is it up and running? >> it's only partially up and running, anderson. there's only one runway allowing limited departures and arrivals. the airport has been limping along since this happened. you've seen it on highway 13 hydraulic trying to take it into a hangar. we know the ntsb was recovering the data recorders and so many passengers around the terminal essentially camped out looking at the screen wondering if they'll make it out of here tonight or if they have to spend the night here. a lot of flights not only here in the new york area but all over the country impacted by this. >> thank you, will ripley. as a passenger, steve blukli. i'm sure you didn't think you were going to talk about your flight here. how are you? >> thank you for asking. i'm doing great. i'll confess to being very shaky after we stopped the plane
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initially but took some time to settle down and after deplaning, we hopped on buses and went to the sky club for delta and had a chance to relax and decompose a little bit. since then i've been doing fine. thank you for asking. >> i got to imagine. it's one thing to go through an experience like this but to see how close you came to that plane ending up in the water, when you saw from that angle, what went tli your mind? >> it was interesting. i was on the left side of the plane, the water side and the exit row right over the left wing and i would say that a lot of the pictures in the footage was actually deceptive because as we hit the ground we started to veer off to the left 10 to 20 degrees off to the left side and i was watching the water get gradually closer to the plane and i said to myself at one point we were going to be going in. >> oh my gosh. >> it was actually a very harrowing moment. i thought back to the plane that crashed in the hudson river several years ago and started thinking about your family and what we're going to do when the
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plane goes in the water. >> and you always hear talking about a water landing. and i always hear that and think, first of all, water landing makes it sound nice and normal. there's nothing normal about that. i know you fly a lot. when did you realize something was wrong? >> i would say as soon as the wheel hits the ground. the passenger was sitting across the aisle. i did remember him. as soon as we hit the ground you could tell there was not a good landing. we bounced a little bit. the plane started to shake a little bit and we started to really i would say, vibrate and tremor as you might see in the movies for example and as i said we started veering off to the left and it was pretty obvious we were having difficulty and even after applying brakes it wasn't taking. >> and what length of time are we talking about from the moment wheels touched down to the time you know the plane came to a stop? do you have a sense of how long the whole thing went on for? >> difficult to tell. i mean i would say it was probably 10 to 20 seconds.
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if you look at the aerial shots, we were about half of the way or two-thirds of the way down the runway and i think that would probably take 10 or 20 seconds to do. >> were people calm once the plane stopped? was it chaos? because those chutes department deploy off the wings like they're supposed to it seems. >> i would say people were remarkably calm. all the passengers were calm. there was not a specific announcement as to brace for impact or anything like that and i would say the flight attendants did a great job to keep people calm and off their cell phones which was a good thing. as emergency vehicles came we opened the emergency doors that you never think you're going to use. >> i'm glad you're okay and the other passengers as well. thank you for being with us. ahead, the dangerous winter storm disrupting travel across the country. hundreds of cars stranded overnight. take a look. can you imagine being stranded overnight on this kentucky interstate? we also just learned there's a press conference about the harrison plane crash we'll bring
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we are waiting a news conference on the harrison ford plane crash. we'll bring it to you live when it happens. we anticipate the conference from the ntsb. more on the delta jet skidding off the runway at laguardia unleashing another round of misery from north texas to southern england and across the south knocking out power, turning off runways, treacherous. thousands of flights cancelled. the storm dumped more than a foot of snow on parts of kentucky stranding hundreds of people overnight on two
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interstates. stuck in their vehicles. all they could do is just sit around and wait for help. gary tuchman has more on the storm's fallout. >> reporter: here in bluegrass country, there is no grass to be seen. this kentucky winter is one for the history books. and every person and every vehicle on this interstate just south of louisville is part of the winter's unpleasant history. hundreds of cars stranded on highways beginning last night, stranded for hours and hours. but drivers hoping they wouldn't run out of gas which would mean no heat. >> i'm ready to get on the bridge to go north on 65. so it might be a while. because we're not moving. >> reporter: police and workers from the state department of highways were on the scene, but couldn't do much because of the combination of snow ice, hills, and the multitude of vehicles. the city of louisville started the plowing process when the snow began but couldn't keep up. >> by the time we completed the routh, it was covered again in
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snow and looked like nothing had been done. >> lexington, kentucky received over 17 inches of snow more snow it's ever had in a two day period. city had 40 inches this winter. temperatures overnight expected to go below zero. other parts of the south hit hard too. snowy highways and cars stuck in memphis. snow covered roadways in parts of arkansas. in arlington, texas, many car accidents after still more north texas snow and ice. heading up north where people are more accustomed to the snowy winters, a frightening accident in the town of port jervis new york. 23 vehicles piling up in the bad weather. ten people hurt. fortunately, nobody seriously. and then there's this. a bridge known as the madison creek causeway in logan county wvr wv collapsing not from snow but flood and melting snow. this video captured by a resident of the area and posted on facebook. >> finally come up over the bridge and it took it away in a
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matter of seconds. when it went it went in a matter of seconds. >> reporter: watch this video. the 18-year-old woman crossing the street in cranston rhode island getting hit by a car struck by another vehicle on the snowy road. amazingly, she is released from the hospital and is okay. but in putnam county new york a tv news photographer video taping a family cutting wood when this happened. trees collapsing from the weight of the snow. >> oh my god. oh my lord. >> reporter: meanwhile, this is what it looked like in washington, d.c. where the federal government for the most part was shut down. as the nation's capitol also got hit by what many hope will be the last gasp of a brutal winter. gary tuchman cnn. >> brutal indeed. stay with us more another live hour of "360." we expect an ntsb news conference at the top of the hour. constipated? .yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips.
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conference. we anticipate it happening any moment. here's the emergency call harrison ford made to air traffic control. >> 53178. requesting immediate return. >> running three. clear to land. >> last location? >> in 3, didn't. look like it was short of the runway by the vor. >> so you heard he called in to the radio tower that initially told him to go to runway 21. he informed them that wasn't going to be possible and named another runway to go to. he's at the hospital being treated for his injuries. his son, ben ford, just tweeted, quote, at the hospital. dad is okay. battered but okay. he's every bit the man you would think he is. he's an incredibly strong man. thank you all for your good vibes for my dad. he's a long time dedicated pilot who flown fixed wing aircraft for many years.