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that is it for us to night. i'm don lemon and thank you for watching. "ac360" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com breaking news to night. we are about to learn much more about the emergency landing that put actor harrison ford in the hospital to night. that is his plane there on the santa monica golf course where he crash land eded. we are expecting a press conference from the ntsb and this the meantime, here is the
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emergency call he made. >> engine failure. immediate return. >> 178, running three. clear to land. >> did you see the last location? >> i didn't. it looks like it shortened the runway up. >> you heard him call the radio tower who said that he could return to the runway 21, but he said it is not possible and he is at the hospital being treated for the injuries and his son ben ford tweeted, dad is at the hospital and he is okay. dad is okay. and he is every bit the man you thought that he is. my dad is very strong man. and he is incredibly strong man. and he has flown fixed wings and helicopters for years. it is not the first forced landing. he had a helicopter, but he had a co-pilot for that landing.
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kyung lah is there at the crash site, and has details. are investigators still at the scene there? >> they are still on the scene. we understand that this press conference is going to be happening momentarily, and i am watching them gather around the microphones right now, anderson. what they are looking at is with what caused this what happened. we are hear ing from the witnesses. there is a witness that we spoke to a short time ago and he said that he actually heard the engine stop. he heard the engine fail. he says that is not particularly unusual when you are talk ging about older planes like this. but he assumed that it would start again, but it sounded like he said that the propeller simply stopped and never start started. so this is what happened. the other thing that he said was that this sis the -- >> kyung lah, i understand that the news conference is starting so let's listen in.
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>> butler from the los angeles fire department and have investigator patrick jones. we'll take a few questions after that. this will be the last briefing of the night as far as i know. we'll kick it off now with assistant chief patrick butler. ready? here we go. >> good evening. my name is patrick butler. assistant chief, los angeles fire department. today, i am gathered with representatives from the ntsb, and the l.a. bureau chief b.gr b.grimala. i want to give you a overview of the initial actions from the fire department and then the ntsb will speak to the incident itself and that will be any follow-ups from that end. at approximately 2:20 p.m. this afternoon, the los angeles fire department received a 9-1-1 call of an airplane crash in the penmar golf course. los angeles city firefighters and paramedics arrived on scene and found a single engine plane that had crashed here on the golf course with one male, 70-year-old occupant. it appeared to be a solo occupant in an aircraft.
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already on scene at that time were resources from the santa monica fire department. this incident involves the santa monica fire department, the los angeles police department, the ntsb, the faa, and other agencies. the paramedics rendered first care to the individual. the patient was alert, talking, breathing, had some injuries and the paramedics initiated care. spinal mobilization and then transported him to a local hospital where he was in moderate to fair condition. there was no fire, no evidence of fire. we checked the area for any other hazards and there is a small debris field here where the plane landed. other than that, our fire department resources will maintain here through the night and assist with the other agencies involved. like i say, our resources arrived on scene and transported one 70-year-old male occupant to
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a local hospital and he is in moderate to stable condition at this time. with that, i would like to bring up a representative of the ntsb. >> good afternoon. my name is patrick jones. i'm an investigator with the national transportation safety board. the first most important thing is that we have had injuries and we hope that the family and the pilot all recover in a rapid period of time. approximately 14:20 this afternoon, there was a ryan vintage aircraft taking off from santa monica. the pilot reported a loss of engine power and was attempting to return to the runway. it appears that he clipped the top of a tree and came to rest on the golf course. as the chief said, there was only one person on board who was
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treated by witnesses and transported forward to the hospital. at this time, the ntsb has started an investigation with the faa in attendance, and our goal is to, tonight, to do some on-scene documentation. we will ultimately recover the aircraft tomorrow morning to a local facility and continue the investigation. and our process is kind of a slow process, and i'm sure that there's going to be some questions about what caused this and what's that and if we've solved it. at this point in time, it is the very beginning of an investigation. it takes us a long time because we want to get it right. so i will not answer any questions that have anything to do with causation at this point.
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>> can you tell us anything about the pilot surviving, and we know that you can't disclose his name, but can you talk about a situation like this and the pilot surviving and is this pilot very lucky? >> most accidents, there's about 2,000 accidents a year. the question was, was this pilot lucky? absolutely a pilot in any time a human being is involved in an accident is a lucky individual. but having said that, there are over 2,000 accidents a year nationwide that involve varying levels of injuries, none to fatalities. it is unusual actually for pilots to lose their lives because aviation is a pretty safe operation. but there are events that happen. as i said, anytime somebody can
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get out of any type of accident, whether it's a car or whatever. >> can you characterize it as -- [ inaudible ]. >> i am not even going to go there. there is no way to -- you're talking where you're asking me to analyze something that at this -- >> let me just rephrase this. based on your experience thus far, that the plane lands right side up fairly intact does it look like it was done in a remote area -- >> i would say that any time that a pilot survives an accident in any case that that is a good thing. >> injuries? >> i cannot -- all i know is what the fire department has told me. we have not been in touch with anybody at the hospital and
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that's, we believe he is going to survive at this point. >> you said it appeared this pilot at the santa monica airport left and then took off and then circled back around to the runway or can you tell us -- >> i am actually responding to the information to the atc tapes that have been apparently already been played, because that is where i have heard it from. the pilot reported a loss of engine power and was attempting to return. [ reporter asking question ] >> next question. >> why wasn't there any sort of fire from the fuel? >> that requires speculation that i can't make at this point. >> mr. jones, do you believe that an inexperienced pilot, it could have had a different are
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result, if it could have been a different event. >> 40,000 people a year die on automobile accidents every year on the highway and when there's an accident that somebody doesn't die in, you don't get that question. so i don't know at this point. >> how did this aircraft lose power? >> flying an aircraft whether it's this aircraft or a helicopter or whatever it takes experience. the pilot is an experienced pilot, and i will say that. >> what is the standard procedure in investigating the airplane? doesn't have a black box, does it? where do you start? crew turning around? >> the question was, this does not have a black box. this is an old vintage aircraft. many aircrafts do not have a black box nor are they required to have a black box. the problem is is that we've investigated accidents for
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decades and it's only been in the last few decades that black boxes actually exist. so we go back to the basics. the initial report, loss of engine power. we are going to look at that, but we're going to look at it all. everything. weather, man, machine. >> pilots always recommend not to turn around. you heard that on the news and usually the procedure is not making a u-turn coming back to the airport? why is that? e e don't have any clue. >> a return to the airport depends what altitude you're at. and i don't know what altitude this pilot was at at the point in time that he chose to do that. so i have no way of knowing whether that was a good thing or a bad thing and if you're going to slam into a wall, maybe turning away is your only option, so. >> surrounded by homes. how difficult is it when you're
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dealing with engine trouble like this area on the golf course? >> i'm sure the pilot was glad that there was an airport here, i mean, that there was a golf course here. >> more incidents than normal in any crashes? >> no. there are -- and i know that's a local, this is a local issue. but it is, this airport is a very important airport. and there's a lot of business that comes in and out of this airport. i don't know when the last accident was here. but it's -- i don't think -- flying is safe if it's done right. >> can do you know where the plane was headed? >> how long will your investigation take? a day or two? can you give us a ball park here of the estimates of how long it will take here? >> the investigation normally takes a couple of months and normally a final report we try
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to get done within a year. he asked where the plane was headed. do not know. i'll say this one more time. anytime a human being is involved in an accident, whether it's a car, jet, airplane or otherwise, and survives, is a good day. >> where was the plane headed? >> i do not have that information. >> do we know where the plane was headed? >> do not know where the plane was headed. >> can you talk about how much time elapsed from the takeoff to the time that the plane crashed? >> it is data that we will capture, but at this point in time i do not know. >> and maybe you said this before but i wasn't listening, but the plane recently takeoff or just takeoff, shortly after takeoff without a problem?
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>> the question was whether this was just taking off. my understanding is and all i know is that i heard the atc recording on the news and the pilot reported that he had an engine failure and returning to the airport. i believe those are his words. >> what is the -- >> it is not immediate at this point. >> from your experience, he was taking off obviously but from the distance to airport to here, how high, what do you think the altitude-wise? >> i will not speculate on that. >> how far was he landing, how far was the crash from the landing strip? >> the airport is right over there. it's 100 yards or 200 or 300 yards, somewhere in that. i do not know how far away the airport, the runway is from here. >> one more question. [ reporter asking question ] will there be more stringent
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requests for more specific train g training for pilots? >> the -- i will say that this pilot is an experienced pilot. and the airplane obviously is a vintage airplane. it's a simpler airplane. so it's got its own idiosyncrasies, whatever they are. i've never flown this particular aircraft so i do not know what it may or may not have. >> what will the next briefing be? >> i'm not planning on doing another briefing. i will give you a phone number and it is a phone number you can call and it's to our pio. >> you're listening to a press conference, an official from the ntsb there. joining me is aviation analyst miles o'brien and safety analyst david soucie. in terms of the investigation, obviously, the official from the ntsb making a big point that this is not going to be an overnight process.
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this is something that is going to take a long amount of time. do you have a sense of what kind of timeline they're talking about? >> it will take at least a week or two to get the aircraft just to a facility and start the disassembly of the aircraft but it can take the ntsb as long as two years to come out with the final report but i would expect it would be resolved in the next three to four months, but it could easily take that long. >> they would take the aircraft apart just as they would in a larger crash? >> absolutely. there's really little difference between the small aircraft investigations and large aircraft investigations in this case. >> miles, we heard from obviously, the ntsb does not want to talk about much or speculate what happened to this aircraft but simply from the radio communications between harrison ford and the tower, it seems that there is engine failure shortly after takeoff.
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>> i don't think that's in doubt. obviously the ntsb has to be circumspect about releasing facts but what we heard about the transmissions, he took off, lost the engine, turned around, tried to land on the airport and did great job with unforced landing. the focus will be the engine. what caused it to fail, the oil, fuel, or mechanical aspect of it, did it seize up in some way? they'll break the engine apart and should be able to make that determination fairly quickly. no black boxes on this aircraft but you have a pilot stitched up and will give an interview and it will be very clear pretty quickly when a trained mechanic looks at that engine what happened. >> thank you, miles and david, and stay with us as we continue to talk more about this, and more about it as this story unfolds at the scene. and more from the plane that slid off of the runway many in new york and those passengers who had a window seat as the
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...upgrade your lenses to transitions® signature™. visit your local visionworks today. to ask about transitions® signature™ lenses with chromea7™ technology. and start living a life well lit®. well you heard it moments ago, harrison ford lucky to survive a forced landing after he had to land from the opposite runway that he had just left from. he was calm and cool, and this is not the first hard landing that he had. this is one that he had from the early 1990s from a helicopter. >> the approach is good. landing i did the terrible thing on the 206, i let the nose wheel bounce, and boy, i went por
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porpoising down the runwayk and i got some grass, and sideways and it is ugly. >> that is my mistake, he was not talk t ging about a helicopter, but he had a hard landing, and in the time he had a co-pilot in the helicopter. and kyung lah joining us g using us once again. and we vhave heard from the ntsb and the fire department is trying to gather as much information as they can. >> reporter: yeah. you can see that there is actually a switchout of engines here. the they will be there overnight. they have no intention of moving it at least the next few hours
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or so but the ntsb said the engine failed, the pilot lost power. that is something that we are hearing also from people who actual lily heard the engine fail from the ground. they could hear it. this is what one witness told us. >> planes don't crash all the time. i think that one happened about five years ago. that crash almost right outside the house on the golf course as well. but you hear them quite often. the engines go out a little bit but typically they, you know, they come back on and everything is okay. but you're thinking, oh, maybe today is another one that goes down like today. >> reporter: when you heard, tell me specifically, what did you hear? >> the engine cut out, but it is not that special. you will hear that all of the time, and so it is not that special. typically the engine comes on again. sometimes they go like when you have an old car and it doesn't run quite well, not clean. it's just similar to that but the sound is similar to that.
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i don't know what these engines are like but i'm assuming because there's a lot of old planes here as well as new ones that that's what happens. sometimes the old engines just don't work and that's what happened here as far as that's what i've heard. >> so you've heard the engine actually stop. >> i didn't hear the stop. i heard it having problems and then he turned around and he was right by the house. the engine cut out. and then he turned around. that's what i heard, he turned around and got back to the airport. i didn't hear the actual crash. i hear the ride above the house and like i say, it's not the first time i heard an engine make that kind of noise. >> you weren't alarmed. you said that you heard it again, but you were not alarm eded when you heard the engine stop? sh. >> well, it is not the first time and typically they come back. they cut out a little bit and then they come back on, and it happens a lot. >> reporter: and in the old planes how many old planes are lying around? >> i have no idea, but i know that there are a lot of the
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collectors up there with a lot of old plane and a friend of mine has an old plane up there as well. i love the plane, and they are beautiful. they are much nicer than the jets and i like to see them, and i enjoy that part of them. when i grew up, we had a tiny airport and it reminds me of home where i grew up. >> reporter: what do you think the way he landed? he landed in a green space. >> i think it's amazing that he made it back. i mean, he must be a very good pilot and i think he's, i guess my neighbor knows him and he must be a pretty good pilot. >> reporter: that neighbor as well as many others here say they're very grateful that he is a good pilot, because where you are seeing me houses are behind me about 40 feet. they're very lucky he managed to land in this green space, anderson. >> kyung, thank you very much for your reporting. back now to miles o'brien and david soucie. for viewers who weren't watching the last hour, this airport is
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and the golf course is very, very extremely close. i mean, it's in the midst of a residential community that has built up around this airport because it's been there, as you said, since the early part of the 1900. >> it goes back to i think 1919 is what they first started flying around then and then really the real history there was the old douglas aircraft company. the predecessor company that made the md-80 which we saw at laguardia today. >> and you can see in this picture, if we put that back on the screen, you can see the aircraft there on the green, a flash of yellow there on the green and get a sense of how close it is to the street. how close it is to those residences and perhaps office buildings just across the street. >> since 1919, santa monica and venice area changed a bit. shall we say. the area has absolutely grown right up to the edge of that runway as you can see right there, and it is a sore point with the community, the noise. >> you also get a sense with this map of just how close he
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became to getting back to santa monica airport. >> you wonder if he missed the tree might he have made it? the airport does sit up on a bluff, so maybe lower than you think, because the golf course is lower than the terrain goes from the runway there itself, because it is a little bit of a cliff there. so, you know, i think he, that was what you'd want to do in this situation. >> i try to put myself in this situation as a pilot and it's got to be so, i don't know if it's frustrating or trying to coax the plane along as much as you can while it's, with the engine out. there's only so much you can do to keep it going. >> and you're thinking about this beautiful aircraft you have too and not only that, trying to preserve your own skin as well and, you know, this is where the years and years of flying and training come in to play. one of the things that you want to do is kind of keep pulling back on the stick to hope to make your way in and then you could stall it.
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then you could end up in a much worse situation but the important thing to know is what the natural glide slope would be. there is a best glide rate, and speed that is perfect for when the engine is out, and when that happens, you hit that speed, and point the nose, and wherever the nose is pointed, that is where you are headed and you have to accept your fate at that point, and then look for a place that is suitable and in this case, a fairway of a golf course is perfect. >> clearly a lot of experience and could have been so much worse. miles, thank you so much. david soucie, thank you as well. up next, crash investigators and cranes surrounding a delta airliner that slid off the runway at new york's laguardia airport. it is scary stuff how close this plane came to the water. that, a live picture there. you can see they're going to be hoisting that plane up. look exactly what happened and hear from someone on board and saw the water approaching as the seconds ticked by when we
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more aviation news. scary moments in new york from passengers on board a delta flight. there it is. the wrecked airliner up an embankment through a fence just a few feet short of the water surrounding the laguardia airport. delta flight 1086 with 132 people on board. it slid nearly into the water and right into the bay. joining us live from the airport with more. so we saw some cranes that are looking like they're preparing to lift the plane. what we know how long this process is going to take? >> reporter: the crane operators
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tell us it could take several hours or longer because it really is quite a task ahead of them. these two large hydraulic plane haves to pick up an aircraft 150 feet long. more than 1,000 pounds and essentially turn it around and place it on a trailer so that they can get it off runway 13 which has been closed since 11:00 this morning, anderson. >> where do they plan to put the plane once they move it? >> reporter: it's believed in a hangar at the airport to give investigators easier access to the aircraft. as far as we know as of the last update, the passengers' belongings and bags are still on it. so the main objective is to clear the run wayway and get this airport runway back up and operational which is causing quite a few headaches. >> yes, and most of the airport has been closed for much of the day, and is it fully operational or more than one runway going? >> one runway is still operational at this late hour
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which is causing flight cancellations, and looking at the board, a lot of red on it, and red meaning that the flight is canceled. people are on the floor and sleeping the if the they can, and just trying to find a comfortable spot to see if the flights will take off, because keep in mind that this is one of the busiest airports in the country, and you have people all over the country, and all over the world that are trying to catch flights that are stuck here. >> thank you, will riply. the winter storm is unleashing from texas to other areas in the south. dumped more than a foot of snow in kentucky stranding hundreds of people overnight on two interstates stuck in their vehicles. all they could do is wait for help. reverend janelle wilson spent the night stranded, still on the interstate tonight. the good news, she's on the move again. joining me by phone. reverend wilson, i know you're en route from chicago to selma, alabama. you certainly didn't spend the
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time on a highway in kentucky. what has it been like? >> it's been horrible because the i-65 south was literally a parking lot for 15 hours. and the thing that troubled me the most was the lack of preparedness for the storm and the inability of the kentucky emergency response team to investigate the extent of prices, impact of people on the road, no one ever interviewed any of the motorists, no one ever looked to see if people were running out of gas, if there were persons who had medical needs. >> you were basically just left out to your own devices for more than 15 hours. >> we were sitting from 2:30 a.m. until 3:00 p.m. today with no one ever talking to us, no one ever saying, this is what
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we're doing. we will ameliorate the crisis, and we will be able to move. we had no idea what was going on. no one spoke to us and once daylight occurred, many people decided to walk down two or three miles depending on the location of their vehicle to the nearest exit ramp to the gas station. many people abandoned vehicles because they ran out of gas and they were cold. many people had to walk to get some nourishment. some people had children. i mean, it was unfortunate and amazing to me that here we are, the richest country in the world, and we don't know how to respond to a natural disaster. and a storm that had been eneen predicted. >> did you see emergency vehicles or snowplows while you were trapped?
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>> we never saw an emergency vehicle on i-65 southbound the entire time we were standing still. >> that's incredible. >> it's just unbelievable. and when the governor finally decided to declare a state of emergency, we were wondering why we never saw helicopters flying over here to look at the fact that for 30 miles, piles of cars were lined up along i-65 south. when we finally started moving this afternoon at 4:00 p.m. at what seemed like 1 mile an hour we noticed that i-65 going north had the same problem we had, it was a parking lot. >> wow. well, just incredible. as you said, to not see emergency vehicles or having anyone checking on people, it's a scary situation. reverend wilson, i appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. i hope you get to your destination. one more development in the harrison ford story.
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his publicist putting out the statement, harrison was flying a world war ii vintage plane that had engine trouble on takeoff. no other choice but to make an emergency landing. banged up, in the hospital. injuries sustained not life-threatening. he's expected to make a full recovery. that's harrison ford's publicist just moments ago echoing what his son said also. ahead tonight, a big new finding of pattern and practice of racism in the ferguson police department. a piece of the report could mean fallout for the police chief, but the question is, where is the police chief? he was not at the press conference with the part-time mayor. the full time police chief who gets a full time salary was a no-show at that. will he comment on what the police force has been up to? details on that coming up next. it's as crazy as you not rolling over your old 401k. cue the horns... just harness the confidence it took you to win me and call td ameritrade's rollover consultants. they'll help
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tonight, a newly discovered detail in that scathing justice department report on policing in ferguson that could have a big impact on police chief tom jackson, who you'll recall nowhere to be seen last night as the mayor of ferguson read a brief statement on the a pattern and practice of findings. racism.
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investigators uncovered seven truly ugly e-mails and more broadly painted the ferguson police department as a thinly veiled money making meech that disproportionately fined african-americans and abuse. and now there is more a piece of the report that implicates the chief in that action. where is the chief? sara sidner has more. >> reporter: we know this. he's been told not to talk and that's probably, anderson, because he is implicated in the doj report as being an integral part of the problem. >> explain. do you think the department has a race problem and are you going to fix it? what are you going to do about it? >> i need to have time to really analyze this report so i can comment on it. >> reporter: why do you need time? you should have known what was going on in your department, correct? he should have known and he did know. this is his e-mail unearthed by the department of justice during
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its investigation. in the 2013 e-mail the d.o.j. highlighted the chief boasting that the court revenue passed the $2 million mark for the first time in history, and the city manager responds, "awesome thanks." apparently not awesome enough because another e-mail tells a colleague he asked the chief if he thought the pd could deliver a 10% increase say indicating, they could try. through tickets and the court fines and statistics show that african-americans bore the brunt of that. >> what do you think of the doj's report? >> i'm still looking at. >> reporter: you are looking at it, but don't you believe that you should have known the racist e-mails and the numbers and trying to bilk the people out of it and instead of telling your department to go ticket them? >> okay, thank you. and i will be in touch. get a hold of jeff. >> reporter: i've talked to everyone. given you literally every opportunity. we've been talking for days and days and days.
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all we want is an answer from you. what do you think of this doj report and what are you going to do about it, just any idea what it is you're going to do yourself as the chief of the department. >> i'm going to analyze the report and take action when necessary. >> reporter: does that mean you're going to stay around? >> i'm going to take action where necessary. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. are you planning on resigning? >> i will let you know. >> reporter: are you thinking about it? >> i have told you that. >> what has the chief told you about resigning. >> reporter: it is interesting that i have told you in the past that he has thought about it. he had thought about it early on a couple of time but when we talked to him a bit later, he said no i am going to see this thing through, and i'm going to be here for this department and work it out, and it has gone back and forth and back and forth and we needed to ask him that question anderson, because now after this d.o.j. report and
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after all that has happened here and the community has just stepped down we don't need you to run this department anymore, he is still there, and we just don't know what to happen next, anderson. >> were there other e-mails implicating him or just the one? >> reporter: there were several e-mails. and when you start reading this and we've got the protesters out here now, when you start reading through this, what you see is he is responding clearly to pressure mostly from the city manager and so is the top brass and you will hear those responses as you read through. you can really see it. there was a lot of pressure coming on him and it seemed like he was trying to please his bosses. those in the city and the city manager as well trying to make shurure that they are getting as much revenue as poss prbl the citizens here or the people driving through ferguson and ticketing being a part of that and court fines as well. >> sara sidner, thank you very much. just ahead, boston marathon bombing survivor gregory said facing her attacker is life changing.
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son with his injured wife so he could rush two other children to the hospital. two straight days, survivors shown how strong they are taking the stand facing their attacker after testifying yesterday, rebekah gregory posted an extraordinary letter to the bomber on facebook. she wrotings this afternoon before go ging in, my palms are sweaty and the prosecution did make me cry, but you know what else happened today? today, i looked at you right in the face and realized i wasn't afraid anymore. but you are a coward, a little boy who wouldn't look me in the eyes to see that because you can't handle the fact what you tried to destroy you made stronger. spoke to rebecca gregory earlier by phone. rebecca, such an extraordinary thing you posted on facebook. how does it feel to move forward in a powerful way? >> it is really incredible, and
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really, before p, i was freak freaking out, because i was just so much more in anticipation of this and so much more than i realize ed that realized that when i got up there and stared at him, i was not scared anymore. for the first time i felt like i was almost, you know helping in bringing justice to something so horrific. >> i want to read another portion of what you wrote to the bomber bomber, and i try not to use his name, because history should not remember this guy's name and just remember your name and the names of other survivors and those who lost their live ss. you wrote, if your eyes had met mine for one second you would have seen that the what you blew up, really did blow up, because now you have given me and the other survivors a tremendous platform to help others and do our parts for changing the world for the better.
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he didn't look at you in the eyes at all? >> he would not look at me no and i tried several times to get him to look at me, because i think that he knew that i was, just because you kcan feel that somebody is stare theing at you, but he would never look over and he would just look away and he is a coward in my opinion. he is. >> and i have talked to some survivors who have firm opinions about what they believe should happen, and others who have been conflicted about say ging what they believe should happen. do you have an opinion in terms of the death penalty or the life in prison for this guy? >> i don't really have an opinion. i don't feel that it is my judgment to make. unfortunately the events of that day, it does not change anything if he rots in priz sonson for the rest of his life or does get the death penalty, and as far as me moving forward with my life, it is not going to the help me in worrying about it. i can't hold any anger or re resentment in my heart, because
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it is doing to keep me from moving on and doing the things that i want to do. >> and you are not able to hold anger or resentment in my heart? >> i really, i'm really not. i am sad and it sis very emotional, because i'm more sad for the other people that were affected by this. i feel like i have been very blessed and i got one of the best possible outcomes even though i lost my leg. there's people who lost so much more that day. my heart just aches for them. and it absolutely does, and i can't be ache -- angry, and i though that if i do, it is going to be putting me in this limbo. i don'tt want to be in limbo. i have been in limbo for so long and i chopped off my leg, because it was holding me back and i want to forget about him, too, because he is just holding me back from living my life. >> and for our viewers, you technically did not chop off your h leg.
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>> no no the doctors did. i made the decision to let them chop off my leg. >> i know that you are determined, but that would be, you know, taking it very far. [ laughter ] >> i want to read what you wrote, congratulation you did take a part of me and you have a leg up literally. but thank you because i am so much more appreciative of everyday am given, and blessed that he is thriving despite everything that has happened. that is an amazing perspective of what has happened. >> well, everybody has their stuff in life. this is just what mine is, and a small piece of everything and it is a big chapter, and i have to move on with it. and so, you know, i am so much more appreciative, because when life literally flashes before your eyes you realize how short
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everything is. so i get to spend the rest of mine loving my family a little bit more and hugging my son tighter, and you know in doing my part in helping others, i'm kind of coming to that realization hopefully before they have to go through something as crazy as what i did two years ago. >> well rebecca, it is always amazing to talk to you shgs, and you have is a great message, and we have posted a link to it on the website, ac360.com, so everybody can read the whole thing, because it is important, and to visit your facebook page. thank you, rebecca. >> thank you so much. she is an amazing, amazing woman. just incredible. up next, the update on harrison ford's plane crash, and what the ntsb has said about him being lucky to be alive. and so many other discounts that people think i'm a big deal. and boy, are they right. ladies, i can share hundreds in savings
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