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the only mouse apple oofrs isffers is micky. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. thanks so much for joining us. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us. it's hard to imagine, truly sad to say, but this is the big story tonight. 50 years after selma and the voting rights act, a bus load of young white men singing about hanging young black men from trees. the incident and the uproar happening at one of the best-known universities. we'll talk about it tonight. first, quickly breaking news out of ferguson missouri. ronald brockmeyer the judge who imposed harsh fines on local citizens mainly african-american citizens while getting his own tickets fixed, he has now stepped down. he also you may recall owes $170,000 in back taxes. in a written statement, a lawyer in his firm said that the judge recognizes he has lost the public trust in the wake of the department of justice report.
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now to the video. the outrage that extends far beyond the college campus and the fraternity house where it originated. a fraternity at the university of oklahoma has been shut down after members were caught on video chantsing racist slogans. here's a look at the video that was posted online over the weekend showing members of the sigma alpha epsilon fraternity on a bus on their way to a party. lasted night the nast chapter suspend the the university of oklahoma members. today the university's president had this to say. >> as far as i'm concerned, it won't be back. at least not while i'm president of the university. [ applause ] tonight we send messages that are very strong and very clear. >> the video sparked protests on campus.
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here's more. >> reporter: the chant is so offensive, it's hard to listen to. sae sae, this chapter at the university of oklahoma is on their way to a saturday night party celebrating the fraternity's founding. the video was sent anonymously to a campus group called "unheard" that works to fight racism on campus. on sunday they posted it online. unheard's co-founder spoke to cnn. >> this chant wasn't something we learned overnight. it was well known, well versed that everybody on that bus proudly clapped at. >> reporter: the outrage was universal. by sunday night the sae national headquarters suspended its ou
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chapter. >> we are just as shocked and outraged and other people because that's not the type of behavior that sae is about. that's not what our organization is about. and that is no way acceptable. >> reporter: today the university president announced all fraternity members were evicted from their house. >> as they packed their bags i hope they think long and hard about what they've done. this is not who we are. and we won't tolerate it. not for one minute from anybody. so those students will be out of that house by midnight tomorrow night. the house will be closed. and as far as i'm concerned, it won't be back. [ applause ] >> reporter: storm clouds were overhead as fraternity members loaded up u-haul trucks outside the sae house earlier today. campus police stood guard. some of the frat brothers reportedly had received death threats. on one side of the house, someone had spray painted graffiti that appeared to read, tear it down.
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the university continues to investigate. saying expulsion is one option on the table for anyone chanting such hateful words. >> so what's the status of fraternity members? >> reporter: right now, the university is still working to identify the students who were seen on that video an any student who was participating in the chanting. at this point the university is still not sure what kind of punishment these students will be facing. but the university president has made it very clear that they will be exploring all of their options, anderson. >> reaction on campus what's the mood there right now? i know there have been protests. >> reporter: there have been protests. as you mentioned. and the thing is as you would expect there's going to be disgust. there's going to be a lot of outrage on campus among students. what we found interesting is among some african-american students they're not necessarily surprised by what they saw on the video.
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what they find surprising is that this fraternity was actually caught in the act. that it was caught on videotape. that's why some students here are saying that now they should really take a closer look at the entire greek system because they believe that this happens more often than we know. >> aileena, i appreciate the update. chelsea davis is co-director of the campus group that brought the video to light. and legal analyst sunny hostin. and charles blow. chelsea, i guess when you first saw this video, i mean what went through your mind? because as you point out, it seems like this is a chant that they have said before they clearly seem to know what to say. >> reporter: well most definitely this chant was not something that was brand-new. this was something that was learned and rehearsed. when i first saw the video, i was hurt. i was disgusted. it really was disappointing to see other ou students referring
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to black students with such derogatory terms. i'm at a loss of words for what happened at this university this past weekend. >> were you completely surprised, though? i understand until yesterday there was a confederate flag hanging inside the fraternity visible from the street. do you think this is localized to this fraternity? or fraternities there in general? >> reporter: i think this is an overall thing within the greek council here in the university of oklahoma. chanting these things are okay and they're going to get away with it. unfortunately it took them getting caught on video camera for this to happen. but this is definitely not something that is brand-new. it's not something that's only seen within this one organization. >> and sunny, a young man leading this chant seems tohave no problem being videotaped. >> and i think that's what was surprising to me. we know we're not living in a post-racial world, post-racial society. we've seen the ferguson report.
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but we've been talking about racism and racial bias more in the context of police departments, and quite frankly, more in the context of people over 40. what was surprising to me was the notion that you have millennials who should -- i don't know should be educated should be more enlightened. i'm very surprised we still don't do better even though we know better. >> charles, you're shaking your head the idea that millennials should -- >> oddly enough strangely enough that's not what the data show. when you look at the data from the racial implicit bias test the group with the highest levels of bias are older. we expect that. the second highest group is young adults those including college age students. what we have to recognize as a society that we are raising a group of people who are a part of the most diverse generation ever in this country. but also a part of an
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increasingly segregated generation, because we are segregating ourselves. this is not state mandated. we are doing it ourselves. some people are choosing self-sorting and moving to homogenous enclave, by income or race and other people are stuck, because of inequality and inability to move out of enclaves. so we see an educational system that is increasingly segregated. and by some measures more segregated than before brown versus board of education. >> chelsea, on campus do you get that sense of segregation? if so what's the solution to that? >> well it's one thing that we've been fighting for on this campus is diversity and inclusion of all minority groups. we as black people do feel separated from the majority simply because, one, we are low in numbers, and two, the atmosphere is just not appealing to us as black students. so i think it is a social issue
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that needs to change not just at ou but within our nation. this is a cultural issue that needs to be addressed. people need to understand that even though my skin tone is different from you, that doesn't make me less educated or less than a human being than you. >> we got a picture of the confederate flag hanging inside now out on the street. what do you think should happen to the students? when the university is looking into whether they violated title 6 act. >> i would assume that there's also a school policy a conduct, code of conduct. i would assume that they have violated that conduct. so going to this university is a privilege. it's not a right. and so i would suspect that the appropriate thing to do after an investigation, is to dismiss these students and expel these students from the school. i do not think that is too harsh. now that we know this is an issue and you have these students that are suffering, i mean you see how she is
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suffering from this i think you have to send that message at this point that this will not be tolerated. >> charles, the other thing that's disturbing about this some people might look at this and say it's a bunch of college kids saying stupid things. these are young people who -- i don't know if they're seniors or not, they're soon going to be going out into jobs making decision that may impact other people. some maybe will work in a bank and decides who gets a loan or not. hopefully they will evolve in their understanding and their empathy and stuff. but if you're starting out with a base of this kind of a platform that's a worrying thing. >> it is a worrying thing on what can happen in kind of crowd behavior in pack men taltstalityiesmentalities. there are probably people on that bus that just went along because everybody else was doing it. and they don't think anybody else is looking. and those people step off of that bus and you don't even know they hold those feelings or they were okay with going along with
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it. they weren't going to say anything about it or were leading the chant. all of that is disturbing. but it is not necessarily surprising we have to remember that this is how this sort of behavior operates in a society. that people are -- people can be hateful, people can be followers, people can be indoctrinated into that kind of thing. this has kind of ritualized kind of behavior. because as you mentioned before and the young lady mentioned, everybody knows the song right? >> it didn't seem like they were just learning it. >> they're saying something back. this is not your first time at that rodeo. >> it's one thing if you're a young person and you do something you regret. it will be interesting to see if they come forward at all and express regret express apologies. it will be interesting to see what steps they begin to take. >> chelsea davis, good to have you on the program. programming note stay tuned after 360 tonight for the special report witness, the assassination of malcolm x. a fascinating documentary of the controversy surrounding him and
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his death 50 years after he was killed. just ahead, public outcry over the killing of an unarmed man by police. nothing like what happened in ferguson. incredible rescue you've got to see the story. a baby girl found alive after being trapped for 14 hours in a car that flipped into a cold, cold river in utah. rescuers say they heard calls from for help from inside the car. but they still don't know whose calls they heard. i'll talk to those rescuers ahead tonight. there's nothing more romantic than a spontaneous moment. so why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? with cialis for daily use, you don't have to plan around either. it's the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction
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protesters today occupy the wisconsin state capital building, about 1,500 university of wisconsin and local high school students marching inside chanting i am tony robinson.
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the name of a local 19-year-old biracial man shot dead by police on friday. today, his uncle spoke out. >> and let's be very clear. very very clear. it takes one bullet from trained -- from a trained gunman to end a life. it takes one bullet. and we know how many were fired. >> in fact we do not know precisely what happened. we do know that for the protesters their echoes of ferguson here. efforts are made do apply the hard lessons of ferguson and do things differently this time. madison's mayor joins us shortly. but first, gary tuchman with the facts we know. >> reporter: the basic fact is not being disputed. a 19-year-old biracial man was shot and killed by a white madison, wisconsin, police officer named matt kenny, inside this home.
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but there are so many questions about why it happened. this past friday night, a call came in here to madison police headquarters. that a disturbance was taking place on the street. as officers raced to the scene, they were told additional calls were coming in about the disturbance. one particular name was being mentioned. >> look for a male black, white-skinned, tan jacket jeans, outside jumping in front of cars. >> reporter: the calls about tony robinson continued to come in to police. >> apparently tony hit one of his friends. >> reporter: then a man called saying he had been assaulted by robinson. >> apparently the victim will be waiting at the restaurant at 1146 willy street. >> reporter: and about 30 seconds later -- >> got another call for the same suspect. tried to strangle another patron. >> reporter: let's give you a lay of the land regarding the recordings you just heard.
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the man said he was victimized was waiting for police. right down the street at the gas station, where robinson was seen without his shirt, and then across the street from the gas station you can see the police cars here. this is the house where it happened. officer kenny went up to the door where the tarp is and that's where he fired the shots. a neighbor in the duplex says she heard it all happen. she says two brothers shared the other unit in the duplex. and tony robinson was their friend. >> i heard rustling and things being knocked over and my ceiling kind of shook, and the light. i figured, you know somebody -- something was going on. i heard more -- somebody go down the stairs. then i heard the shots. >> reporter: you heard the gunshots gunshots? >> yes. >> reporter: how many did you hear? >> four to six. >> reporter: robinson was pronounced dead at the hospital. the police chief said robinson
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struck the officer in the head when he went into the house. robinson pleaded guilty to participating in an armed robbery in madison last year. and was serving probation as a result. the man who shot him, officer kenny, has been placed on paid administrative leave. the police union director represents the officer. did he have a taser with him and why didn't he use the taser first? >> i think that's something we probably won't comment on. typically i will tell you an officer won't use a taser unless they have lethal backup. >> reporter: so if he doesn't have someone else with a gun, you're not supposed to use your taser here in wisconsin? >> that's generally the policy correct. >> reporter: an investigation is under way for the shooting death of tony robinson. it will take a minimum of four to six months to complete. >> gary tuchman joins us from madison. it seems like police in madison are handling the situation much differently than ferguson. >> reporter: it's easy to learn from the situation in ferguson.
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the atmosphere is here much different. the name of this officer was released almost immediately, much different than ferguson. also the police chief has been very open. he said this weekend that it's clear that mr. robinson was unarmed. and that's a controversial fact that will make this all much more difficult to unravel, but he said it right away he wasn't only gatd to say that fact right away. in another big difference you've had large protests and demonstrations here but they have remained peaceful. demonstrators lighting candles in front of the house. >> joining us from madison is the mayor. appreciate you being with us. i'm sorry it's under these circumstances. at this point do you have any more clarity about what transpired inside that house between the officer and this young man that actually led to the shooting? >> unfortunately, i don't, mr. cooper. the investigation is being conducted by the state. we have a new law here in wisconsin where departments are no longer conducting their own
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internal investigations for officer involved shootings. >> tony robinson's uncle said today he believes this is an example of what he called systematic targeting of young black males. those who support the police action said as tragic as it was, given this man's history, given alleged assaults he had committed that night, and what may have -- whatever transpired in that house, they believe the shooting was justified. what do you say to the family? >> well, i met with the family the night of the shooting and there are several things in our conversation that i think are important. but first, is that we are not going to put tony on trial. that's not what this is about. what this is about is finding out exactly what happened that night. and to determine then responsibility. we know that he was not armed.
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and as far as the police chief, chief kovall and i are concerned, the fact that tony was involved in any kind of transgression in the past has nothing to do with this present tragedy. >> what's your message out to the people protesting tonight? should they have confidence in the investigation that's under way? do you have confidence in it? >> i have confidence in it to the degree that i believe that the justice department is going to do a fair job. i do have some concerns because no one in the state has gone through this before. so that is one reservation that i have. but in terms of the students and the young people who are really feeling the tragedy, and for most of our high school students young college students under the age of 20 22 other
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than a family loss this may well be the greatest tragedy that they've experienced. and to date they've expressed frustration. they've expressed anger. and outrage about what's happening. that is their prerogative, that is their right. and it's been done in a very appropriate manner up until now. some of the personal attacks on police officers i have reservations about. but by and large, things have gone well. >> well mr. mayor, again, i'm sorry it's under these circumstances we're talking. i appreciate you coming on tonight. thank you very much. up next an amazing story. how a little girl survived 14 hours in a river so cold her rescuers got hypothermia. we'll talk to them about the rescue. and the mysterious voice that say guided them to the vehicle, with no one else alive in the
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. a little girl opened her eyes today. she opened her eyes in a utah hospital to caring professionals, a loving family and a world to conquer. lily grossbeck just just 18 months old. trapped in the wreckage of her mom's car after 14 hours in a freezing river. where that voice came from remains a mystery. here is my conversation with the first responders. first, though lily and her incredible story from our elizabeth cohen. >> reporter: late friday night a man living in this yab nood outside of salt lake city hears a crash. he looks outside his door and sees nothing. what he doesn't know a car has skidded off the road and is now partially submerged in the spanish fork river. it takes until noontime saturday for the car to be spotted. a local fisherman sees the overturned vehicle in the water. >> a witness said there was an arm he could see inside the
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vehicle. >> reporter: the fisherman calls the 911. >> it felt like i could hear somebody telling me they needed help. it was very surreal. something that i felt like i could hear. >> reporter: they're not sure where the voice came from. when they get to the car, the scene is grim. 25-year-old lynn jennifer grossbeck is dead in the driver's seated. but in the back seat, rescuers find her daughter lilly, just 18 months old. she's in her car seat hanging upside down in a part of the car not submerged in the water. the toddler is unconscious and unresponsive but alive. the officers flip the car over. >> i raised its head up out of the water. as i tried to release the seat belt. the child was passed to me. and i just ran up and climbed in the ambulance with the child. >> reporter: for 14 hours she survived hanging upside down in
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freezing temperatures in the upper 20s, with no food or water. >> it's amazing. children are very resilient. i think sometimes we don't realize how much they can withstand. >> reporter: as for the temperature, being cold might actually have helped lilly. >> when you become hypothermic, it slows the body down. metabolism drops. your oxygen consumption drops, your glucose metabolism drops. >> reporter: the main reason she survived this awful crash is that her mother buckled her up in a car seat so she didn't go through a window or drown. something that isn't surprising to jennifer's sister. >> she loves lilly with all her heart. >> reporter: primary children's medical center said the toddler is in stable condition and improving. the family shared this about her today. her improvement is astounding. right now she's watching dora and singing wheels on the bus with grampa. she's smiling and laughing for family members. we're blown away by lilly's
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progress and grateful to her rescuers. >> we were blown away by her rescuers who made that possible. paul pulled lily from the water. and officers jared warner and tyler bedos of the spanish fork police. i spoke to them a short time ago. tyler, take us back to the moment you first arrived at the vehicle. did you think there was any possibility that someone could still be alive in there? >> when we first got the report there was a vehicle upside down in the river, a fisherman had walked by the vehicle, we didn't know if it was abandoned or anyone was inside the vehicle. it wasn't until we were about there that we got a report saying that they could see an arm protruding from the vehicle. >> so how much of the vehicle was submerged at that point jared? >> the roof it was upside down in the river.
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water was probably eight inches from the top of the door frame where the window meets. so definitely the roof section was submerged. >> and was lily in the water itself? >> not at that moment. she was fortunately placed at the rear of the vehicle in the back seat. when it was upside down that suspended her to where she was out of the water at that time. >> tyler, when you arrived on scene, what did you do? >> we heard something saying help us help us inside. so it was at that point that we said we have to get in that car now. and we all -- the four of us were able to push the car on its side. that's when i looked inside and was able to see the child infant strapped in the back seat. >> so you actually heard a voice calling out help me? do you know who that was? >> you know at first we didn't know if it was someone inside the car, if it was -- what that
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voice was. we assumed, or i assumed it was someone in the car saying help me. that's why we responded saying we're trying we're going to get inside and help you. we're doing the best we can. that was just extra motivation. to get inside the car and figure out who was in there. it wasn't until after we flipped it that we saw the mother who we know now was deceased at the time and the child was in the back seat. so it wasn't until after that you really process and we got together and we all heard the same you know voice. >> jared, you heard that voice as well? >> yes i did. like officer beddoes said more than one of us of the four officers that were there, responded back saying, we're here to help. >> when lily was finally freed from the wreck, what condition was she in? >> i could tell she had some life in her. i could see her eyes moving. she wasn't breathing at that time.
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things went so quickly, that i just handed her up out of the car as fast as i could to get her out, and get her into the proper hands. >> so is she wasn't crying or anything like that? >> no. no. >> i'm really intrigued by this voice you heard. i guess it's something of a mystery to you at this point. do you think it's possible it came -- is it possible the mother was still alive when you guys came on scene? what do you make of it? >> for two nights i've laid awake trying to figure out exactly what it could be. and so many things go through your mind. all i know is that it was there. and we all heard it. and that just helped us to push us harder like i say. and do what we could to rescue anyone inside the car. >> tyler, i understand you've got some information today about lily's condition. how is she doing? >> i was told today that her eyes were open today.
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and that she was actually laughing and interacting with family members. and it's just incredible to hear. and our heart goes out to the family. >> the job all of you do is difficult on any day. but to have an outcome like this where you were able to save a little girl's life is just extraordinary. i just want to thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us. >> thank you. >> thank you, anderson. appreciate it. >> give credit to the other rescuers who were there as well. i want to give one quick note on the oklahoma university story. we shared what we believed to be a photo of the confederate flag from the frat house window at ou. it's actually from the sae house from osu. we regret the error. good policing or was it a cover-up. that's the question following an arrest in the murder of a leading critic of vladimir
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the five people have been arrested in the killing of boris nemtsov. he was shot and killed as he was walking near the kremlin, one of the most highly policed most heavily watched place on earth. mysteriously there's only this one piece of video that's been released. at the time skeptics predicted authorities would either fail to investigate or would round up some fall guys namely ethnic chechens. pro-democracy activist and
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former world chess champion garry kasparov. what do you think of the statements made about the people arrested? >> actually we don't have too much to learn from the official statements. because it's very brief. again, we are hearing stories on the armed forces pointing out that one of these guys you know, saying that he confessed. it's not confirmed by official sources. all we heard from this man in the courtroom, i love prophet muhammad. i don't think it proves anything. >> one of the motives that's been put forward -- >> officially. >> -- officially, was that nemtsov had supported members of "charlie hebdo," and that this was in response to "charlie hebdo." >> these guys they seem to me as like those who were reading boris nemtsov's facebook or listening to the liberal radio station. so i don't know how on earth they could find out who is boris
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nemtsov. who is quite tacit in his comments about paris. you know said about these attacks on "charlie hebdo," in paris. also from the very beginning, we can hear time and again this unnamed source throwing out false information. in one hour we heard about boris nemtsov being shot from the white car. again, many times unnamed forces you know instead of an official investigative committee committee, provided us information that proved to be wrong. >> what is the chance that anything will ever actually be known? >> probably, again, there's a chance these guys or one of them killed boris nemtsov, or one of them did. but who pulled the trigger is less than who pulled the strings. i wouldn't be surprised if we're
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facing a battle of different groups. without any doubt, no doubt at all that this order couldn't take place without the full cooperation of security officers. because they control the breach completely. >> the leader in chechnya tweeted out comments about -- >> again, i won't say it was the main suspect of a killing in london in 2006 again, very strange coincidence. >> vladimir putin on this day awarded -- >> awarded. i think this might be though a plan of some people surrounding putin who hated him because of the big fight between russian security officials, and the chechen strong man, who is a big putin supporter. so i would not be surprised if we learn much more. also the video you showed it's the only one that's available.
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and it came from the moscow tv channel. which is not controlled by kremlin, but by the moscow mayor. we know there are other cameras from other programs working, and showing it from a different angle. too many questions remain unanswered. hopefully we'll have a chance to learn more. definitely the kremlin's policy will now just to be -- >> tamp it down. >> absolutely. >> thank you. up next he thought it was just a bruise until he had his arm amputated. we're talking about our miles o'brien. how do you deal with that change. >> this is a nightmare. this has got to be a nightmare. this can't be real. the garden is the story of our lives... told and retold. it's as old as our time on earth. and as new as tomorrow. you can have a yard. or slightly less. gardening isn't about where we choose to live. it's about how we choose to live.
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tomorrow night, on cnn, miles o'brien shares his incredible emotional journey after he lost his arm in a freak accident. a camera box fell on miles' forearm when he was working in the fill peeps of the he first thought it was a bruise. 48 hours later, he was fighting for his life and ended up losing his left arm. he agreed to tell the story to our sanjay gupta. here's a preview of miles o'brien, a life lost and found. >> i could barely believe what i saw. i mean you know it's amaze inging that i could -- you know it
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felt like it was there. it really did. but it wasn't. >> miles was alive. but he was in deep denial over what had just happened to him. >> i don't think we're very good human beings in general, at perceiving what our real risks are, right? you tell people you're going to fukushima, they go, you're crazy. you tell people i'm stacking up some pelican cases, they say, so what. other perception of risk does not match the reality. and i have learned that in a very painful way. >> the denial was so strong miles left the hospital two days after his operation and checked into a hotel. he didn't tell anyone that his arm was gone. not his family not his friends, not his co-workers. no one knew. >> the first days weeks and months were certainly tough. now, miles says his life is better. better for going through all of this. i spoke with miles and sanjay
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earlier. why did you not want to tell anybody? you stayed in that hotel room for nine days. >> you know, it was a combination of a little bit of denial a little bit of fear and being a dad, wanting to protect my kids. you know you're in a mode all your life where you don't want to upset them. you want to make them -- you want to be the super dad, right? >> what were those -- i mean if you told them on the phone, what was that conversation like? how do you go about telling somebody that? >> it's hard to believe, anderson. but what i did was, my son was in china, and my daughter was at college in north carolina. and i wanted them to be the first to know. and i wanted them to know at the same time. so i actually arranged a skype call with them. and i got them both on the skype. and i explained what happened. and it was really hard for me as a dad to you know how do i tell this to them. they're adults. they can handle it.
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i wasn't giving them much credit frankly. and without even hesitation they said, dad, you know there were expressions of shock, but the next thing out of their mouth was, dad, we love you. and we're here to support you. and that was the pest call i ever had in my life. and it made me realize how stupid i was to think i had to hold back from them. >> it's been a year since the accident. it's a dumb question but what has this year been like? >> it's been a tough year in many respects. i've had to relearn very simple things you know. how to butter the bagel, or whatever the case may be. tie my tie. all those little things. and all that stuff that it took a lot of my time this year just to kind of reinvent how to get through the day. and that was at times -- it made me very frustrated made me angry. i wasn't a happy guy a lot of
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the time. it wasn't like there was one particular thing. i felt like i was taking up a lot of my time just figuring out basic things. but when i look back on this year you know it's very hard for me to watch the film frankly. it's very difficult. because it's like so many things in life it's almost kind of easier to live through them than to reflect back on them and think about them. especially when it's told in the way sanjay told it. it's really a very powerful film. it will be a powerful film for me to watch. i wasn't in it. it's very difficult, probably a little bit of ptsd for me to see that and have that story told that way. but what i've learned this year is that number one, we all have a reservoir of resilience if we're willing to draw from it. >> there were moments where you thought about ending your life. >> yeah. well, i thought my life was over. >> it really felt like your life was over? >> i didn't know -- i didn't have a template for a one-armed television journalist.
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so i didn't know what i could do anymore. and that's part of what i -- you know i literally thought what is the first thing i can do to prove that i'm still at it, as it were. that's when i started typing working on my scripts. and that was like the first in a series of tiny little battles that got me through this year. kind of one challenge to conquer at a time. >> were you nervous about doing this? to interview somebody who is a friend who you know it's a whole different thing. >> i was nervous. i think it sort of morphed into what it was as well. i remember originally when miles and i were talking, i was so interested, you know in the science, the things that we always had in common the prosthetics and how that was all going to work for him. i remember when i was talking to him in the first interview, and i was learning things that, you know in medicine we like things in these nice neat tidy packages. we like to assign tables. you're now in denial phase, now acceptance all these things.
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and, you know during that interview and then certainly in the months that followed i realized that things are messy. they're sticky. they don't follow rules. you can go to acceptance and go right back to denial. you can be in bargaining phase for a long time. you can get angry. >> i want to show another piece from the documentary. it gives the viewers a sense of some of the struggle that you went through. >> reading the e-mails that poured in kept miles going in the early days after his accident. >> you got a top of e-mails. i know i sent you e-mails. >> let's go find yours. that would be right around the time, right? let's see. yeah. let's see. okay. so this is right around -- yeah there we go. dear miles, sanjay here. i think about you nonstop. so sorry for your ordeal. we're all thinking about you and wish you the very best. many miles stories were shared
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today. it's very hard. it is. yeah it's -- you know it's bad enough to live it. to see it just brings up a lot of stuff that ultimately i need to work through. but it's brought forward in a very focused and -- it's just difficult. it's difficult. those moments when you think about what it was like to receive those e-mails, his, and hundreds of others showing
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expressions of love and support that i didn't fully appreciate frankly. >> such an incredible journey. i urge you to watch it. miles o'brien: a life lost and found, 9:00 eastern tomorrow night. we're all really proud of it. incredibly proud of miles and sanjay. we hope you watch. surveillance video. also, canine murder mystery. this dog was poisoned. the question is did it happen at a prominent dog show, and if so, who did it.
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amber walker has the 360 news and business. anderson tmz obtained surveillance video showing shug knight's deadly hit and run. it may be tough to watch. suge knight is confronted by one of the man who attacked him. he backed up his truck and clipping him. later he hits the gas and plows into both of them killing one of them. knight has pleaded not guilty to the charges against him. according to his attorney he was trying to escape because he feared he would be killed. near rocky mount, north carolina 40 passengers were injured when an amtrak train slammed into a truck carrying a mobile home. the train derailed. debris was scattered all over the tracks. according to reports, the truck driver was not hurt. and a dog died of poisoning just hours after competing in a
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prestigious dog show in birmingham england, according to the owner of the irish setter. a vet told the owner there was enough poison to kill a horse. anderson? >> unbelievable. so sad. thank you vch. we'll see you again 11:00 p.m. eastern. witness, the assassination of malcolm x starts now. the following is a cnn special report. it's fair to say few men were more admired and more hated than mal cook x. he was the voice of reason to many never afraid to speak truth to power, never afraid to challenge the white establishment about the cruelty and injustice black americans faced. no one was more aware of the tension around him and within him than the man himself. in 1965 after a very public split with the nation of islam and its leader elijah