hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. a shooter on the loose. two police officers just released from the hospital. authorities now say their number one priority is to find the person who shot and seriously wounded the officers during a protest in ferguson missouri overnight. one officer was struck in the shoulder, the other in the fats. the st. louis county police chief described the injuries and said the outcome could have been tragic. >> fortunately, with both officers we don't have any remarkable long-term injuries. in other words, we didn't --

there wasn't a -- it wasn't in somebody's brain or heart or anything like this. but you need to know these two officers took a very hard hit. any time you're not in the face and have a bullet lodged in your head have a through and through wound where the bullet enters your shoulder and comes out the middle of your right back those are hard hits. we're lucky by god's grace we don't lose two officers last night. >> police say the shooting of the two officers was an ambush and that the shots were direct the at the police. the protests were winding down when shots rang out. jake tap ser there joining us. give us the latest on what's going on. we know this search apparently still continued for the shooter or more shooters. >> reporter: that's right. st. louis county police were searching a house earlier today at nearby dade avenue.

they took out three individuals. a neighbor described at least the woman as having been handcuffed. the police say nobody is in custody and nobody is arrested but they are being questioned as to who shot these two police officers. we also know that the two officers thankfully have been released from the hospital. and seem to be okay. what we know about them one of them is a police officer from nearby webster grove. he's 32 years old. been on the force for seven years. apparently the bullet went in right under his right eye and it's still lodged behind his year even though he was discharged from the hospital and is expected to be okay. the other officer from st. louis county 14-year veteran of law enforcement. that bullet hit a shoulder came out the middle of his back. they have both been treated and released and expected to make a

full recovery. they were standing next to each other we're told there were about two dozen police officers right at the police station. and the shots came from a nearby parking lot. right now, wolf i want to bring in a witness to what happened last night, one of the protestors. thank you so much for being here. she's from nearby st. louis. she works for amnesty international. tell us if you would, about first of all what you saw when it came to the shooting? >> from what i saw, the bullets came from the hill. it was behind the protestors and i was standing over there where the gray car is. like i heard four shots ring out. and then i looked over. as i'm like panning from the protestors to the police i see protestors on the ground and they're crawling. we didn't know if anymore shots were going to be fired. the police were on the ground also for about a minute. and then they got up and half of them trained their guns onto the hill and then the other half

were helping the police officers up and dragging them across the grass. >> reporter: so you're saying that the bullets came from behind the protestors not from within? >> no. >> reporter: there were about a hundred protestors? >> last night i would say 200 total, but at the time maybe 60 or 70. >> reporter: even though the police chief announced his resignation, a county clerk, a local clerk has as well as other individuals, you guys want the police force disbanded that's why the protest and the mayor to resign. >> we protested last night because there's still no notice -- there are seven total black men and teenage boys killed in st. louis. even though the chief stepped down and the city manager, that's still not a win. >> reporter: what i understand there had been arrests before the shots rang out. the police had arrested some of the protestors for various things blocking streets.

you saw those arrests? >> that's normal for the olice. they did snatch and grab last night also which is normal for them. we were -- >> reporter: can you explain what that means? >> when they approach protestors and cause commotion and snatch and grab people out of the crowd. they arrested three people i think. a legal observer and a protestor went to the ferguson police department at the time like right before the shots were fired and they were working on getting people out. so they were standing at the door. even though the shots were fired and hit the police they could have hit the protestors and the lawyers also. >> reporter: there's video out there of police on the ground tending to the two wounded officers. kind of being harassed or razzed by some of the crowd. did you witness any of that? >> no. protestors definitely were trying to get off the parking lot and drive away. we had to walk across the parking lot with our hands up and the police still trained

their guns on us as if they we were the suspects. >> reporter: were you here in october after the verdict or lack of verdict was announced? i recall the same thing, shots being fired from above the hill. protestors down here shots from up there. you remember that as well? >> yes. it's a dangerous situation. it's a dark street. you can't see up there. anybody could be up there. >> reporter: all right. we're glad you're okay. wolf back to you. >> we'll have a special hour coming up later today 4:00 p.m. eastern on the lead. let's go to our national correspondent jason carol. the shooter is still on the loose. you're outside the home where a tactical situation that's what the police described it has just wrapped up. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, we're just about a half mile from where jake was located here on dade avenue. the house behind me is the one you see here. that is the one in question. according to neighbors, three people taken out of the house in

custody, brought in for questioning. i actually spoke to the grandmother, wolf, of one of the young women taken into custody. she's 23 years old. her grandmother tells me that last night her granddaughter did show up at that protest and then she got a call from her saying she was upset, she had heard the shooting and the gunfire. her grandmother told her to get home right away. her grandmother says that's the last she heard until this morning when she got a call from a neighbor to say to come over to the house because it was surrounded by police. i spoke to her just a little while ago. i want you to listen to what her grandmother had to say. >> there's too much going on. already stress out. it's just too much stuff going on with these kids. it's just crazy. it's so crazy these kids up there protesting and doing this. they need to be at home. that's where they need to be.

in the house. it's really uncalled for what's going on. it's really uncalled for. >> reporter: you can see there wolf the grandmother very upset about what's going on in ferguson. she says her grand daughter is not a suspect. she says she was simply brought in for questioning. i asked her, did she see anyone that may have fired a shot. she did not believe her granddaughter saw anyone that had fired a shot. according to neighbors here two other young men also inside the house brought in for questioning as well. >> we'll see if that leads anywhere. stand by. we just got a statement in from the participates of michael brown junior. he's the young man that was shot and killed in ferguson by a police officer. here's the statement. the family of michael brown junior condemns this morning's senseless shooting of two ferguson police officers. we reject any kind of violence directed toward members of law enforcement. it cannot and will not be

tolerated. we specifically denounce the actions of standalone acknowledge stay tors who unsuccessfully attempt to derail the otherwise peaceful and nonviolent movement that emerged throughout the nation to confront police brutality and forward the cause of equality under the law for all. we must work together to bring peace to our communities. our thoughts and prayers remain with the officers injured during this morning shooting. and their families. a strong statement from michael brown's parents at least by the law firm representing them. president obama also speaking out on these shootings in ferguson for the first time on twitter. let's go to michelle. what's he saying michelle? >> hi wolf. written by the president himself saying that violence against police is unacceptable. our prayers are with the officers in missouri. path to justice is one all of us must tral together. we heard earlier today too from the attorney general eric

holder. his statement was equally strong this heinous assault was inexcusable and repugnant. icon dem violence against any public safety officials in the strongest terms and the department of justice will never accept any threats or violence directed at those who serve and protect our communities. he said too, we will continue to stand against all acts of violence against cops wherever whenever they occur. that's what we've seen throughout. and incidents prior as well. they feel they need to make these strong statements against patterns of activity within the police department against violence with protestors. but at the same time they want to keep this balance. >> we're told that the attorney general is going to be making a statement. he's going to be speaking at a previously scheduled event this

hour. we'll see if he speaks about the shootings of those police officers in ferguson. we'll have coverage of that. eric holder is getting ready to speak this hour. much more coming up on the ferguson police shootings, indeluding the impact. all of this on an already fractured community. i'll speak with the president of the naacp's st. louis branch. that's coming up.

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shell casings that could be tied to the ferguson police shootings. the ferguson police chief was asked what kind of gun was used. >> we feel like it's a pistol, a handgun. we recovered some shell casings in the area. we don't know 100% yet if those are going to be the shell casings that are going to be attributed to this shooting. so -- but we do believe it's a handgun based on the way the shots sounded and the injuries to the police officers. >> joining us on the phone right now, former mb assistant director tom fuentes. i assume crucial to the investigation are the ballistics they're discovers right now. >> first of all, the shell casing can be matched to a particular firearm. the extractor that causes the

shell to be ejected will be unique. the firing pin that strikes the primer will be unique and identifiable to the either arm, but they have to recover that firearm. the actual ledad will have striations on it. at some point, they'll need that particular bullet and see if it's not been too damaged by striking bone and other tissue in good enough shape to conduct a ballistics test and link it to a specific gun and gun barrel. >> they've already suggested very strongly it's a handgun, a himself that was used. how do they know that so quickly as opposed to let's say a rifle? >> i think they're basing it number one on the shell casings let them assume it's probably a

handgun. secondly the crowd, when you fire a rifle, a rifle bullet is super sonic. in other words it breaks the sound barrier and leaves a loud crack sound that everybody would have clearly heard very loudly. also the bullet speed of a handgun might be around 700 feet per second. fired out of a rifle, over 2,000 feet per second and much larger. and a bullet wound like that striking someone at the high point of their right cheek would almost certainly be a fatal wound. >> whoever did this shooting must have had pretty good aim to use a pistol or a handgun in a way like this specifically targeting two police officers. >> that's extremely accurate. you're right. having been a police and fbi firearm instructor for many years, to shoot a handgun at 125

yards and fire four shots, two of them striking officers standing side by side that really is remarkable marksmanship. >> 125 yards, that's more than a football field. to be that precise that requires a lot of experience. i assume that's further going to help authorities try to find the person or persons responsible. >> well, it certainly may. i'm telling you, even for trained police officers shooting at ten or 20 feet to be able to hit targets that accurately is pretty good shooting. you know we watch tv shows and think that you know like james bond somebody can shoot 125 yards away and shoot the gun out of the person's hand which is absurd. that takes a great deal of skill to be able to fire. if it was just one lucky shot that would be one thing. to shoot two officers standing next to each other, that's pretty clearly excellent

marksmanship. >> tom, thank you very much. >> coming up more on the breaking news a. spokesman for the st. louis police officer organization telling cnn the protestors are at least partially to blame for the shooting last night. we're going to ask the president of the st. louis naacp his thoughts. much more right after this. you wouldn't do half of your daily routine. so why treat your mouth any differently? complete the job with listerine®. kill up to 99 percent of germs. and prevent plaque, early gum disease and bad breath. sfx: ahhh

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that we haven't had any instances similar to this over the summer and fall. joining us now a adolphus pruitt. he's the president of the st. louis naacp. thanks for joining us. this is a serious setback, this shooting of these two police officers. give us your reaction to what has happened in your community over the past few hours. >> unfortunately, last night was a violent night here in st. louis. we had a 5-year-old killed in one part of the city and later on in the night, we had two police officers shot. it's never good to have anybody suffering from a gunshot wound of any nature irrespective of what it is they're doing and who they're representing. so it was a bad night. i'm just looking forward to moving on and continuing the conversation going in the direction it needs to go in to bring the change that needs to happen with police and

reinforcing a policeman and the police and community relationship. >> most of the protestors as you well know mr. pruitt they've been peaceful. going way back there have been these outside agitators who come in and create violence. the michael brown parents they issued a statement saying that they support the peaceful demonstrations certainly in memory of their son, but they denounce the actions of standalone acknowledge staygitators. tell us about these people. >> unfortunately, the fact that they have been here off and on throughout most of the protest is not new. we all know about them us and law enforcement have been keeping our eye on them. but they -- they're here we just need to recognize the fact that we need to be vigilant make sure that we watch out for

everybody's best interest and not get caught up in what's going on and let it derail the process going on here in ferguson. at the end of the day we still have to move the ball forward. we still have to create the changes that need to happen. and we're not going to let anybody on the outside or inside derail us from that goal or mission. >> jeff, who is with the st. louis police officer's organization. he was on cnn's "new day" earlier today. he said the protestors have poured kerosene on this fire and have been aiding and abetting the agitators. i want you to respond because he's obviously upset that these two police officers have been seriously hurt in these two shootings. >> you know i guess the best way to respond to jeff is that not too long ago there was a hearing for a community oversight board piece of

legislation. most people would say that his actions there made him the agitator. and he went further and got into a physical confrontation with folks there simply there to testify. so i mean jeff is jeff and i think we all know what his motivation is. >> the ferguson police chief, as you know, he resigned yesterday. going to take effect next week. other officials in ferguson have resigned. two police officers were let goe. the county clerk, one of the judges, the city manager. is that enough or do you think there should be more resignations? specifically the mayor, the mayor of ferguson, must he go? >> i think our national president said it best they were scrammingbleing like roach when is you turn the light on. i think we support that sentiment. there has to be change in ferguson. there has to be change in

policing in this whole region and it's got to happen and it's going to happen. those folks who try to derail it or those folks hoping it doesn't happen they're going to come up short. the doj report in itself is the foundation for change that needed -- it is clear, it outlines the fact and we're going to act on those facts and make sure that the changing happen. >> adolphus pruitt thanks very much for joining us. >> no thank you. >> much more on the breaking news the breaking coverage of the ferguson police shootings. that's coming up. also a new scandal for the u.s. secret service. two senior officers -- agents, i should say, accused of drinking and then crashing their car at the white house. did their supervisor try to cover it all up?

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welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. there's a new embarrassment for the u.s. secret service. this time two senior agents investigated for crashing their government-issued car into a white house barricade after a night of drinking. sources tell cnn the agents had been attending a retirement party for a colleague right before the crash happened. what's more, one of the men involved is the second in command of the president's protective detail. sources also tell cnn that the officers who saw the crash wanted to arrest them but they were overruled by a supervisor who allowed both agents to go home. the agents have now been reassigned while an investigation is being

completed. this is just the latest in a string of scandals for the u.s. secret service. there was the headline about several agents bringing prostitutes back to their hotel during a trip to colombia. then in march of last year, agents who had been drinking were sent home during a trip to the netherlands. then a man sprinted across the north lawn of the white house, actually got through the white house into the east room. let's dig deeper for this new scandal. the news about the agents allegedly getting drunk, cashing their car at the white house. just as we said the latest in a string of high profile embarrassments. so what does the agency need to do to fix this problem? joining us now, elijah cummings. he's the ranking democrat on that committee. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. what's going on at the u.s. secret service? this is the agency that's

supposed to protect the president of the united states, the first family? what is going on? >> well, first of all wolf a lot has been done with regard to the secret service. a change of almost more than half of the top leadership half of the eight assistant directors have been fired and replaced. the deputy has been fired or retired. and we of course have a new director. so a lot is happening with regard to the leadership but i got to tell you, this incident shows us that there is still a lot to be done. and it's very frustrating. i think what this shows is that there is a culture that's still within the ranks and it may be in part leadership too, that still does not rise to the level of the reputation that this organization has had in the past.

and i think what we're going to have to do and director clancy is going to have to do he's going to have to put a high powered microscope over every aspect of this agency everything from moral to culture to use of technology and protocol and training. got to look at all of those things to make sure that we get it right because we cannot afford the error. >> are you worried about the safety of the president and his family? >> i'm always worried about the safety of the president and his family. these kind of incidents worry me even more because we have a situation here if accurate -- now, again these are only reports. i want to make that clear. but if you've got two top level supervisors who are getting into a car, a secret service car and then crashing a crime scene while an investigation is going

on that's problem enough. but then if according to reports, you've got a supervisor on the scene that says to the rank and file protective agents look don't give them a sobriety test let them go home that's just as bad. and so we -- we've got to weed out people who have that attitude that you know a certain set of rules apply to some folks and don't apply to the other ones. now, one of the good things going on here, wolf is that chairman of oversight and i talk late last night and we agree that we are going to -- going in lock step to make sure that we put our high powered microscope on this organization and make sure they get the right. because the life of the president, the first family and all our others are at stake here

and we want to make sure that there's no room for error. >> you put out a joint statement in fact last night. the fact this this event involves senior level agents exhibits a clear lack of judgment in a potentially dangerous situation. was it a mistake to have somebody from the secret service be raised to director because there was a lot of recommendations maybe it's time to bring someone in from the outside? >> wolf, i think that those were recommendations, but i think director clancy is the right person for the job right now. keep in mind he's only been in the job a few months and he has already made a lot of major changes. can't talk about them all right now. some of them are classified. but i can tell you that whether he dismissed more than half of the top people when he went about the business of bringing in certain types of personnel and reorganize niezing the

agency and these -- he's going about it very methodically. but again these types of incidents that happened wednesday show us that there's still work to be done. i think that he will look at this realize that there's still problems and try to address them. i have full confidence in him. the president and the first lady have full confidence. he'll be fine. by the way he is a zero tolerance director. he'll get to the bottom of this. we do not have room for people who refuse to help this organization move to the elite status that it has enjoyed. so we've got to make sure that they get back there and reestablish that integrity and also make sure that we address the issue of accountability. >> very quickly, congressman, if all these reports are true, these two agents one of whom was number two in the president's security detail they should have at least been given a sobriety test on the

scene after crashing into that barricade. >> absolutely. absolutely. if you were stopped on the street wolf and you displayed any kind of signs of driving while impaired, you would be stopped. but we're talking about the white house. the elite agency -- protective agency in the world. so no. zero tolerance. period. >> all right. elijah cummings. congressman, always good to have you here on cnn. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. we'll have much more coverage ahead on the breaking news we're following. the shooter of two missouri police officers in ferguson still on the loose right now. we're going back to ferguson live for the latest on the man hunt and the investigation.

updating the breaking news this hour. a shooter on the loose. two police officers just released from the hospital after being seriously wounded. it happened overnight during a protest in ferguson, missouri. let's go back to ferguson right now. jake tapper is there. also jason carol. i understand you were just inside the house that was raided by the police earlier today. what can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right. it happened this morning wolf. the house you see behind me right here on dade avenue.

the grandmother who was out here a little bit earlier took me inside. she said i want to show you what happened inside the house. we saw -- the house was a mess. it was a wreck. when i asked her what had happened, i said what were police looking for. she said obviously they were looking for a good. she said they are not going to find it. her granddaughter, she's 23 years old, wolf. she was at the protest last night. she got a call late last night. after the shooting took place, her granddaughter called and told her, i just heard gunshots. her grandmother told her to get home. so that's what she did. it was only this morning when a neighbor called the grandmother and said your house is surrounded by police and swat. get over here. her granddaughter and two other men had been taken in for questioning. she was obviously very upset. her granddaughter is not a suspect and cannot understand

why all this is going on. wolf? >> stand by. jake give us the latest on the condition of those two police officers who were shot. >> reporter: police are breathing a sigh of relief that it looks like they will be okay. ultimately they were taken to barnes jewish hospital in st. louis. they have been released. the wounds are potentially very serious. one of the officers 33 years old, seven years on the force, from nearby webster groves. the bullet went right under his right eye. we're told the bullet is still lodged behind his ear, but he is apparently okay enough to have been released from the hospital. the other police officer, from st. louis county police, 14 years on the force or in law enforcement. the bullet hit his shoulder and went out the middle of his back. apparently what happened last night, shortly after midnight there were about two dozen police officers right in the area behind me when according to

witnesses, police officer witnesses, there were muzzle flashes from about 125 yards up this hill right across the street and to my right. we recall when we were here in november right after the grand jury declined to mount any charges against officer darren wilson there were shots fired up there as well. in any case the officers went down on the ground as well as about 70 protestors who were there who had been protesting the fact that they wanted the mayor to resign and the police force to completely disband. all hit the ground. thankfully the two officers are all right, have been released. but it was a very very dicy situation. as you can imagine tensions already high in ferguson and this is obviously not going to help matters at all. >> no certainly won't. are they bracing for more protests tonight like they had last night? >> reporter: it's unclear as of now whether or not there are going to be any protests.

obviously there are police here. there had already been three arrests prior to the shooting last night, wolf. we talked to a protest tore earlier this hour, as you know. they are mad not only that the fact that the police force has not been disbanded, that the mayor has not resigned. there have been several resignations including the police chief that was announced yesterday. it's unclear whether there are going to be any protests this evening. >> stand by. much more on the breaking news coming up. also the war against isis. new reports that the iraqi troops may not be leading the fight against the terror group in tikrit. we're going to tell you what's going on. but when i started having back pain my sister had to come help. i don't like asking for help. i took tylenol but i had to take six pills

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search for those three british schoolgirls who left their families to join isis. officials in turkey now say they've arrested a person of suspected of helping those girls who crossed into syria from turkey. the suspect was doing intelligence for a country part of an international coalition fighting isis. the three schoolgirls, aged 15 to 16 they haven't been seen since they left london last month. iraqi forces are set to be closer to pushing isis out of saddam hussein's hometown of tikrit according to the head of a key shiite michonlitia force. some 150 isis fighters still hold the remaining 25% of the city we're told. the predominantly shia militia have been working with iraqi troops and some sunni fighters as they work to push isis out. joining us now from baghdad is our senior international correspondent ben wedeman and

also joining us from phoenix, our cnn military analyst retired major general james "spider" marks. you're just back from spending the day with some of those iraqi shiite militias. we're told they're leading this ballot for tikrit. the militias who really is in charge, the iraqi army or -- >> reporter: i can tell you what we've seen in going up there several times is that when the commander of the main or sort of the umbrella group for all these shia militias is up there surrounded by iraqi generals for instance we were with him when he was with the commander of iraqi ground forces and it's very clear from the body language who is in control, who is running that operation and i can tell you it doesn't appear to be the iraqi army. it's definitely the leaders of

this popular mobilization units, however, today we actually did meet some sunni fighters who are fighting as part of one of these predominantly shia militias one of the men, for instance was part of what is known as the awakening council or the americans used to call them the sons of iraq. they were the sunni fighters who crushed al qaeda in mesopotamia several years back but he said that when isis came to town right outside where he lived in tikrit that they went after him because he had worked with the americans. he said they killed his wife his two sons two grandsons and after they took arms -- he took up arms against isis so it's not quite as black and white cut and dry sunnis versus shia. there are a fair number of sunnis who have an ax to grind with isis and it does seem that they are playing also a part in this operation, wolf.

>> that's interesting. general marks, spider what, do you say to those u.s. analysts and i've spoken to some who say the good news is isis may be defeated in tikrit the bad news is that the iranians in effect are going to have a lot of control over what's going on in tikrit? what do you say to that analysis? >> yeah wolf that's exactly spot on. the challenge is if we look at it tactically and we describe an intake that's been achieved in tikrit which is isf the security forces are now in charge and nominally taken tikrit back that's a good thing but when you walk that success up to some form of strategy we're now embracing iran tehran's policy world's largest exporter of terrorism and their involvement in our operations and our shared view in term of what we want baghdad to look like going forward. this is a real challenge, what it says is the united states at this point, irrespective of what we've done in the past is we

have few good options moving forward. so if we can score points right now in tikrit and the iranians are helping doing that some would say that's a good thing. the bad thing how do we move forward as we walk in this formation with the iranians. we have no track record of being successful in terms of dealing with iran so i don't know why we would be in favor of this. >> ben, as you know very disturbing story that we've been following, two senior security officials in samarra have told cnn they're look nothing claims that u.s. trained iraqi military forces have actually committed atrocities similar to isis you've seen these reports, you're there in iraq for us. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well what i can tell you, wolf is that really comes as no surprise when you consider just how brutal this conflict is that those who are fighting isis in some instances are going to copy some of their

tactics, some of their more brutal methods like beheading. we're not in kansas anymore this. is a country that's been at war more or less since 1980 with the beginning of the iran/iraq war and it's sort of has become almost second instinct for many people here to use violence in ways that may not be quite familiar to those who live outside of iraq but it doesn't really come as a surprise. there's some of these units, don't forget while the americans were here under prime minister maliki there were death squads basically wearing uniforms of iraqi security forces who were killing people dozens of people on a nightly basis, some of them using power drills to torture them to death, so unfortunately this, is not really that much of a surprise. wolf.

>> especially coming only a few days after general martin dempsey, the chairman of the u.s. joint chiefs of staff told congress he's worried about what he called ethnic cleansing potentially developing inside iraq issued a strong warning against it but he obviously knows something is going on over there. all right, ben wedeman, thanks very much spider marks, thanks to you, as well. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. in "the situation room." for our international viewers cnn news center next. for our viewers in north america, newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right after a quick break.

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