down on oprah's couch once you've seen him jumping up and down on the tallest building. at 52 tom has reached his cruising altitude. jeanne moos, cnn new york. >> i give him credit. i don't even like to go to the top of that building on the inside. record "outfront" so you can watch us anytime on your dvr. thank you for joining us. breaking news. heightened security at princeton maryland's ncaa matchup. a threat against one of the players. christine brennan broke the story. what have you learned? >> yes, anderson. leslie robinson, the freshman forward for princeton, is not playing in the game. she's on the bench. but this afternoon the university of maryland athletic department received a voicemail, and in the voicemail the woman

leaving that message talking about a man driving on the campus with a handgun and the voicemail also mentioned leslie robinson president obama's niece. so at that point, the university of maryland stepped up security. they have undercover security officers who are near or on the bench. obviously we can't tell who they are because they are undercover. and in addition the secret service is here because both sonya sotomayor and elena kagan from the supreme court happen to be here cheering on their princeton tigers. so a lot going on here. in terms of actual presence you wouldn't know the difference. in fact i would say i would never have known any of this were going on had i not been told by my source. >> we're talking about the daughter of craig robinson who is the first lady's brother, right? >> that is correct. michelle obama's brother's daughter. >> president obama did attend a game over the weekend. he's not at tonight's game, though?

>> that is correct, anderson. president obama is not at the game tonight. he was there saturday when they played green bay in the first round. i received an e-mail there would be heightened security for that game the day before. they didn't say why. and then of course once the word came out that the president was at the game on saturday obviously we all understood why that e-mail went out about heightened security 24 hours ahead of time. there was no such e-mail going out because of this game. obviously according to my source this threat occurred this afternoon. so there was no sense at all, anderson about anything going on until i received this information from a source during the game tonight. >> let's hope it was just some sort of prank call. christine brennan, thank you very much. now to the explosive story of rape on campus at one of america's top universities. the story that was published in "rolling stone" last fall. it detailed an alleged gang rape of a freshman woman at the university of virginia at a fraternity party. a story that unraveled as

contradictions came to light and "rolling stone" later apologized. the police chief in charlottesville, virginia said the formal investigation into the alleged rape has not turned up any evidence to support the allegations made in the original story. now, the issue of investigation you'll violence on college campuses is an important one and can be difficult to navigate. we certainly don't want to add to the fear that women already have about perhaps coming forward. but the police chief made it clear in announcing the status of the investigation doesn't mean that something terrible didn't matter to the young woman and the case is not closed. rosa flora has more details. >> reporter: uva's rugby road is quaint. lined with manicured trees and beautiful fraternity houses. but in the original "rolling stone" article a rape on campus it's the scene of the alleged graphic rape of a woman who goes by the alias jackie. according to the "rolling stone" article, the freshman was

allegedly raped by seven men at a frat party in 2012. while the magazine apologized and cnn poked holes into the story, it's not until today that we learn from police that the alleged gruesome chain of events don't hold up under scrutiny. >> we're not able to conclude any -- to any substantive degree that an incident that is consistent with the facts contained in that article occurred at the fraternity house, or any other fraternity house. >> reporter: they say jackie did not cooperate with the investigators, but did talk to the members of this fraternity. they also pulled phone records and uncovered a forecast of this fraternity house that's electronically date stamped on the date of the alleged attack. they say that nothing lined up. but perhaps more concerning jackie spoke to police about a separate incident before the

"rolling stone" article involving four men in a nonsexual attack which police say is also unfounded. during that investigation, police say she never provided them with details of the alleged sexual attack that she described to "rolling stone." so you didn't know that the facts that were disclosed in that "rolling stone" magazine those graphic details? >> absolutely not. >> otherwise, do you think you would have investigated? >> i think it would have been imperative to investigate. >> reporter: jackie contacted her friend alex stock after the alleged rape occurred. he said he's not surprised by police findings because the moment he read the "rolling stone" piece, he knew something was off. >> immediately i knew there were several key facts that were off. as more details came to light through the media, we just found out most of the facts didn't add up. >> reporter: for uva student rape survivor advocate she said

jackie's story is a setback for the cause. >> i don't think it hurts our cause on the whole. we've had scores of people come forward, and even more people wanting to help. >> reporter: meaning what police say didn't happen on rugby road could still make everyone at uva a little safer. >> rosa flora joins us now. has the fraternity acted to the results yet? >> the fraternity coming forward and saying that these allegations have been very damning to their organization in a statement they're saying in part i'm going to quote here the fraternity is now exploring its legal options to address the extensive damage caused by "rolling stone," damage both to the chapter and members and the very cause upon which the magazine was focused. they say they're hoping this case does not stop victims from coming forward. now, anderson, we should add this is not the only review going on. columbia journalism reviewed the

reporting, and cnn has now learned from "rolling stone" that that report will be published in early april. >> rosa i appreciate your reporting. earlier today i spoke with the police chief, timothy longo, along with former federal sex crimes prosecutor sunny hostin. >> you said even though you found no evidence of an assault, that doesn't mean that something terrible did not happen to jackie. and those were your words. can you explain that? do you believe that something did in fact happen to jackie that night? >> well even her own friends who saw her just after something occurred said that while she did not appear to be physically injured, she was upset. as though something did in fact happen. and so i don't want to close the door on the possibility that we might have some evidence testimonial or otherwise, that an event occurred. if we get that information, make no mistake about it we will open this investigation wide open and bring it to some lodge

logical conclusion. >> sunny, what do you make of this? >> what is troubling to me is sort of you know i think many people are saying she lied. she must have made this up. when you look at the fbi statistics anderson 2% only 2% of false rapes are reported, right? and only about 40% of rapes are even reported. and so it would really fly in the face of the stats to suggest that she just wholesale made this up. but i think the larger question here is what did the university do when they first heard about this? oftentimes when you look at rapes on campus and that does happen quite often, unfortunately, universities try to take on that investigation. that is not where the investigation needs to begin. once a rape is reported to a university official the police should be involved. because minutes, seconds, hours

can really destroy any evidence of corroboration. >> chief that's one of the things you made clear in your press conference timely reporting. can you just for clarity sake run through some of the pieces of jackie's story about a sexual assault that you cannot corroborate? >> so let's start with the date that apparently was supposed to have taken place with this person who we identified as a haven monahan. they were supposed to have gone to the boar's head restaurant for a fraternity party. we were unable to find a reservation or any attendance of any event at the boar's head. when you look at the interior of the fraternity and she describes having to make her way through a crowd to go up a flight of stairs you may recall we came across a photograph that was presented to us during the course of our investigation of the interior of that fraternity. that photograph was time stamped september the 28th at 11:30 at night. there is an individual depicted

in that photograph holding two chairs in his hand and there's no party going on around him. no large group, no evidence of any social gathering. so there's these inconsistencies that really call into question whether anything occurred in that fraternity house that night. a party or anything else. >> and even the person whose name you just said who she allegedly had gone out to dinner with you haven't been able to find any existence of that person and i know you even went to i think the pool where she worked to see if there was somebody else at that pool and you interviewed somebody whose name came up and there's no evidence that person was the person she was on a date with correct. >> when we spoke to the folks at the aquatic center the report that the -- the article says they worked together at the pool. you would think that somebody by the name of drew and/or haven monahan would be reflected on their roster of employees. and based on what investigators tell me the persons they investigated at the pool said we

don't have such a person who works here. i'm not sure haven monahan exists. >> so i guess somebody hearing this will say, well gosh i mean that's all pretty conclusive. it all sounds like a pretty lengthy investigation, a costly investigation on your part. why not just now say, that the case is closed. >> i think it does a disservice to this person woe now know as jackie and other survivors to know even after an investigation like this we're just going to close it and say, okay, we're done. i don't have enough information to say that nothing happened. i just have information to say that we don't believe anything happened at that fraternity and certainly not what's described in that article. >> chief, i appreciate your time. sunny hostin as well. thank you both. >> thank you. quick reminder make sure to set your dvr, watch 360 anytime you'd like. he's been called everything from the future of the republican party to a carnival

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ted cruz made it official today to become the first republican presidential candidate for 2016. >> this is our fight. the answer will not come from washington. it will come only from the men and women across this country, from men and women from people of faith, from lovers of liberty, from people who respect the constitution. it will only come as it has come at every other time of challenge in this country. when the american people stand together and say, we will get back to the principles that made this country great. >> fellow republican new york congressman peter king wasted no time smacking him down calling

him the marks of a carnival barker not the leader of the free world. taking issue with senator cruz on style as well as substance. whether you agree or disagree with his assessment it will be interesting to see how he's regarded by the gop and the general public. >> he's a tea party firebrand. >> obamacare is a train wreck. we're seeing our constitutional rights under assault. >> reporter: a climate change skeptic. >> there's snow and ice everywhere. debates on this should follow science and data. >> reporter: he wants to disband the irs. >> abolish the irs! take all 125,000 irs agents and put them on our southern border! >> reporter: never mind there aren't anywhere near 125,000 irs agents. senator ted cruz wants to be president.

he kicked off his campaign today, not back home in texas, but in virginia on the campus of liberty university. >> i believe in the power of millions of courageous conservatives rising up to reignite the promise of america. and that is why today i am announcing that i am running for president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: he's been in the u.s. senate for two years and two months long enough to wage a 21-hour filibuster for funding for obamacare, and to play a leading role in a 16-day government shutdown. >> i intend to speak in support of defunding obamacare until i'm no longer able to stand. >> reporter: he makes no apologies in the art of compromise proudly not in his vocabulary. >> imagine in 2017 a new president, signing legislation repealing every word of obamacare.

>> reporter: he's the first 2016 presidential candidate out of the gate. he faces an uphill climb, and that's just among his fellow republicans. >> we need intelligent debate in this country. ted cruz may be an intelligent person but he doesn't carry out an intelligent debate. he's just a guy with a big mouth, and no results. >> reporter: he made clear today he's running hard against the establishment, saying moderate republicans wield too much influence on the party. he's setting his sights on wooing evangelicals. >> today, roughly half the born-again christians aren't voting. they're staying home. imagine instead millions of people of faith all across america coming out to the polls and voting our values. >> jeff joins me now. what's the next stop for cruz? >> the next stop is really to

try and start doing some fund-raising. he's well behind a lot of his republican rivals. he'll be in new york city for the next couple of days. he'll be going on a ten-city fund-raising tour over the coming weeks, trying to raise some money. at the same time he's trying to neutralize some of those republican -- some of that republican skepticism and criticism from congressman peter king and others. can he grow here can he change some of that to rhetoric that we've become used to. >> jeff thanks very much. joining us for the first of no doubt many conversations to come. john from the location of the speech to the content obviously ted cruz is sending a clear signal to his conservative base today. >> clarion calls it the conservative base. he said he's for lower taxes, for the evangelical base like same-sex marriage and abortion, i will stand up to the democrats

and liberals but also made clear he will stand up to the republican establishment. this is a time he probably had to plant his flag. he's at 4%. a lot of other people on the space, in that space. rick santorum has run before mike huckabee has run before. he's behind in the polls. but he's famous to the conservative base. my biggest question on this day, he's been a protest candidate for the republican party. he's helped shut down the government. stood up to the president. stood up to the leadership. do republicans view him as a protester or as a president? that's challenge number one. >> anna how do you answer that question? a lot of folks say there's a lot he says no to. is there enough that he's for? >> i don't know yet. right now what he's known for is exactly that being an obstructionist somebody who stands up to the establishment. which is very appealing to a certain part of the republican electorate. being the person who is

uncompromisingly against obamacare and executive orders by the president. we have not heard what he is for. we don't know if he can break past the single-digit support that he enjoys in the polls right now. he's going to have a lot of competition. we don't know if he's going to be able to answer the question of well you know you are, like obama a rookie first term senator, who is looking to be president without really having any management experience. can he convince people he's different and get past that crucial question. that will also be a question for senator paul and senator rubio should they decide to run. >> kevin, you know from your time working with mitt romney attack too far to the right you alienate the right. >> i any he wants to change the direction of the party. you heard a lot of those words today in his speech. he tried to appeal to the real

conservative base in the republican party by using words like courageous bold those are calls to action to so many of these grass roots conservatives around the country, who feel like not only is the country going in the wrong direction, but the party is going in the wrong direction. if we're going to win as a party, then you can't nominate somebody who is in the middle that you need to nominate somebody who's really going to drive a big strong contrast with the eight years of the obama administration. and that i think, is what he sees his key to victory inside a republican primary process. >> john what is the road map for him to win the nomination? is there a clear road map? >> a clear road map? no. but any road map for him in iowa without a doubt. rick santorum won iowa last time. mike huckabee won it the time before that. iowa does not have a great history of picking nominees. they have a history of winnowing

the field. he wants to seize that space on the right of mixed evangelicals. listen the young people in that crowd make you think he's fighting for the young republicans, and he is but jerry falwell was also a friend of president reagan. i'll cut government like ronald reagan. he needs to win iowa. and then probably south carolina will be his next shot. the way they've changed the primary calendar there are some southern states that could be if we have a crowded republican field, and if this drags out for a long time, some southern states could become more important. that would be the big test of whether more of a tea party candidate can actually win a republican nomination. to do that he's got to win somewhere first and prove his vi ability, and that would be iowa. >> wouldn't it be a mistake for other candidates to underestimate ted cruz? >> oh anderson i don't think anybody is underestimating ted

cruz. the last guy who underestimated ted cruz got beaten by him very badly. the former lieutenant governor of texas david dewhurst. nobody underestimates anybody in this race. folks are out there trying to do their own thing. this is not the time they've begun attacking each other. ted cruz is very smart, very eloquent. we saw him give today a 30-minute speech flawlessly without a teleprompter. when was the last time you saw that from president obama? or anybody on a political stage? >> kevin, it's interesting. there's been so much focus in recent years how republicans need to do better with latino voters if they want to win the white house. ted cruz does take a hard line on immigration reform. how does that play for him? >> well i think the challenge for ted cruz there is that so many hispanic voters want to see an immigration proposal or an immigration reform idea. they want it to be formed around

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a new threat from isis from a previously unknown group called the islamic state hacking division. targeting about 100 members of the u.s. military. the hackers posted over the weekend and the threat is very real. details from the justice correspondent pamela brown. >> reporter: among the personal information posted on the hit list pictures home addresses and phone numbers of commanders captains and major generals in total about 100 members of the u.s. military. many of those singled out are pilots including this man, seen holding his baby.

we're blurring his face to protect his identity. the list was posted by a group calling itself the islamic state hacking division. and tonight that group is calling on isis sympathizers to quote, kill the service members in their own land behead them in their own homes, stab them to death as they walk their streets thinking they're safe. >> it could easily become something that really matters from the personal security standpoint. it deeply affects the personnel. >> reporter: law enforcement officials tell cnn the fbi has been monitoring some individuals in the hacking group for some time. but it's unclear for how long. those same law enforcement sources say it's unclear if isis leadership ordered the list but say their real concern is a lone wolf sympathetic to isis targeting the service members. >> there is no way that all of these people could receive a personal security detail. they have to do things like ensure the security of their own homes, perhaps in extreme cases

they may consider moving out of the home that is listed as their address. >> reporter: all the service members on the list are being notified. though there's no evidence of an imminent threat of an attack. >> pamela brown joins us. there have been other cases where isis has reached out to service members and their families right? >> there have been for months the faa is aware of this threat. isis supporters have directly reached out to service members and their spouses. this is as one official put it an escalation of that threat. really an anomaly as far as the volume here. the fact that this is an organized list that rt group took the time to go online take publicly information from social media, cross-reference it with the white pages and compile this list of 100 or so service members. it appears, anderson if you look at the list a lot of them are pilots. several were involved in the air campaign against isis in syria. and so it's believed that some of them were cherry-picked to be on this list given their

involvement there, anderson. >> troubling. pamela thank you very much. general, obviously this is not necessarily a in you kind of threat, it's been done before. but it's incredibly troubling. >> it is. it was done by al qaeda. it's been done by the taliban. but the isis' crew they're better at it. they are more organized, they can pull off social media sites. but i think most of the pictures that you see have come from facebook pages, have come from press releases and certainly we're still very concerned about it because imagine if you're a family member of that soldier, or that pilot, and you see suddenly your address, it strikes fear. it's another attempt at isis to just instill fear within their enemy. >> we've seen people acting out on this michael. islamists killing british soldier rigby was his last name beheading him on the street. >> actually remember the

emulation of the jordanian airman. >> right. >> it was 22 minutes long. there was a whole section at the end -- >> at the end with the pictures. >> so the idea is we've located you, we know you're part of this air campaign. we're hoping to inspire some jihadi in jordan to take it upon themselves. >> i remember looking at that list closely, and a lot of those guys lived on bases. it seems like a lot of these are private addresses. some live on bases, but some live offbase as well. the threat to them is greater. >> when i commanded in europe there's a great deal of emphasis placed on security on bases. only about 20% of your soldiers and their families live on the bases. quite a few of them live offbase. the same thing is true throughout bases in the united states. quite a few folks live off the compound. and in the civilian environment. so it's concerning from that approach. but truthfully as pamela said this is an opportunity for a lone wolf.

it might happen. but this is not a threat that's critical. it's scary, but it's not critical. >> this group, michael these islamic state hacking division are they new? >> they hacked into centcom's twitter feed a few weeks ago and put up all kinds of isis propaganda. it's in cyber terms called doksing of actual retired servicemen. look we think of isis as a ras tag bunch of jihadis running around. it's actually very sophisticated at the top. a lot of them are ex-saddamists. for them to use hackers to do this kind of work the syrian electronic army does this on behalf of the revolutionary guard of iran. looking for people in d.c. to cultivate. we have to expect a group this sophisticated is going to have

the capability. >> it's interesting the evolution, the technological evolution we've seen here. i remember coming and doing stories about al qaeda magazine and their social media campaign. but isis has taken it to another level. >> completely. they are certainly slick with their magazine and the way they're doing some of these things. you never underestimate your enemy, that's one thing a soldier will always tell you. you always know that they can do things that you don't expect them to do. this is one of those kind of things. it's scary. >> they also want us to know they're paying key attention to the debates. they're listening to what we're talking about. the general said it's to sow fear. if you try to commit further into this military effort we can get you where you live. you don't have to come here we can do this in the west. >> it gets back to the operational security by the

forces. the commanders in the field are saying take your geolocators off your iphones, don't post pictures of combat. one was an airman refueling over iraq. it requires discipline within the force as well. >> general, great to have you on. michael, you as well. breaking news from at the top of the program the women's princeton game is now over. someone made a threat against princeton forward leslie robinson mr. and mrs. obama's niece. thankfully there were no incidents. president obama attended a princeton game on saturday. but was not at tonight's game. there's a connection to another cold case or possible connection to the disappearance of a woman in vermont in 1971. jean casarez spoke about that and more today. that's next. ♪ at mfs, we believe in the power of active management. every day, our teams collaborate around the world to actively uncover, discuss and

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robert durst was denied bail in new orleans where he was arrested last week in the connection of the murder of his long time confidante susan berman in 2000. he long said he had nothing to do with her death or the disappearance of his wife in

1982 and was acquitted in the murder of t the death of his neighbor in texas. all of these cases were documented in the hbo series "the jinx." now there's another case to tell you about. authorities in vermont say there's a connection between durst and the disappearance of a middlebury college student in 1971. durst and his wife lived in middlebury at the time where they owned a health food store. jean casarez spoke with durst's attorney and asked him about that case. here's how he responded. >> you know he may have been in chicago when jimmy hoffa disappeared. he's an easy target. >> the interview covered everything from why he's agreed to represent durst again to the documentary's explosive finale when durst was in a bathroom with his mic still on.

>> well, here's jean casarez. >> dick is a high profile attorney used in high profile cases. defending robert durst will be no exception. >> i just don't think that they had sufficient evidence to have him arrested. they had a lot of suspicion. they've always had a lot of suspicion. and the television show just added to that suspicion. but as far as evidence is concerned, i just don't think it's there. i thought something was probably going to come down because of this damn tv show. which i've said before is great television. but it's not really a search for truth. >> when did you find out about the statement in the bathroom? >> when i saw it on television

like most everybody else in the country. and i've got my own opinions about that. and if that's the strength of their case i mean i can be ready tomorrow. >> as durst waits for the next step in this legal process, the mental and physical health of this 71-year-old defendant has come into question. the judge may have an issue with competence. do you have an issue with competence? >> no i don't have any issue with him being competent. he's a little frail, and he has some memory problems sometimes. but he's not incompetent. >> so why would this respected texas lawyer want to again represent a man he helped get acquitted of first-degree murder charges by a galveston jury in 2003? >> i know him. i like him. that gives me maybe a little extra touch of passion about coming to his defense, when all the world thinks that he's a killer. >> jean casarez joins me now.

jean it's fascinating to hear from his attorney. he seems like a very competent, very good attorney. today in court, the investigator from the d.a.'s office testified about the items they found in durst's hotel, and how they were able to track him down. what did he say? >> oh we learned so much more than what we've heard before. first of all, what they found in the room? they found a mask as we've heard about, that would cover your face over your neck up to your chest area. with salt and pepper hair. i saw the picture of that mask because when it was shown to the defense, i saw it. it was creepy looking. i mean there is no way someone could wear it and not get all the attention in the world. it was just like the worst halloween mask you could find. we also learned the fbi began to track him with telephone pings, and op the 8th of march, which is when the fifth installment of that documentary aired, that's when the envelope was shown. he ceased all phone calls. and then on the 10th of march, they saw that he had left his

apartment. and the phone pinged near beaumont texas. then no pinging at all. common sense said louisiana. they couldn't find him here. then on march 14th, this hotel right behind me he checked his voicemail twice. fbi went there. they saw him in the lobby. they asked him for i.d. he said i've got my passport up in my room. they took him up to his room and there some things were in plain sight, that mask 446 in $100 bills, a map showing florida and cuba. and that's when he was arrested after that. now, we also want to say that the defense stood up and said after he was arrested prosecutor from los angeles within hours, and a detective from los angeles, within hours, interrogated him for three hours, according to the defense. and now there's a preliminary hearing in a week and a half. >> fascinating. jean casarez, appreciate it. jeffrey toobin joins me now. first of all, that mask.

people saying he was going to use that to try to escape. if it's some freaky halloween mask that seems highly unlikely. >> it seems highly unlikely. trying to explain the logical processes involved in his behavior will be a challenge for both sides. for both the defense and prosecution. >> he's wanted for capital murder in california. why is he noi being facing lesser charges in new orleans? is california trying to buy time? that's what the attorney for durst is saying. >> that seems unlikely to me. the -- when you have a high-profile defendant prosecutors like to try them. they like to have them in their courthouse. so new orleans is saying, you know this is pretty good. we've got this guy. and, you know possession is nine-tenths of the law, when it comes to defendants as well. so they're not going to be in a big hurry. they may have a drug case or weapons case against him. they're going to at least see how it goes for a while. the important point to make is

that he's not going to be released on bail, under any circumstances. so he will either be in custody in new orleans or he'll be in custody in l.a. >> although i've got to say, when his attorney says look i could defend him tomorrow if all the evidence he has is his mumbles in the bathroom saying you know killed them all, of course i can kind of see his point. >> it is a defensible case. in fact deguren got him off in what seemed a much tougher case. >> shooting his next door neighbor and dismembering him. >> that's not the whole case remember. there is also the letter the two letters, one of which he admits writing, the other he said was clearly written by the killer with virtually identical handwriting. not impossible to explain. and remember this is going to be this l.a. case there's no eyewitness there is no murder weapon no tie between the murder weapon and durst. so there is a lot for the defense to work with. but also all the evidence is

not in yet. >> i also have to say, i'm skeptical about what authorities in vermont are saying they're saying there is a connection between durst and this missing college student from 1971. and that they've known this for years. if they've known this for years and there's such a connection why are we just hearing about it? >> where have they been. assembling evidence for anything that happened in 1971 in 2015 is incredibly difficult. and talk is cheap. you can say he's a suspect, but whether he could actually be charged, at this point, seems pretty dubious. >> the statute of limitations for murder never ends. and again, i mean it's endlessly fascinating. 360 is live tonight. more on the threat to president obama's niece. next i'm going to make you smile. meet a spunky 104-year-old woman in texas, 104 years old. she let us in to a secret to a long life.

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an exclusive club. the other day elizabeth sullivan turned 104 years old. there have been 18 u.s. presidents during her lifetime starting with taft. gary tuchman met her today. take a look. >> reporter: elizabeth sullivan has lived in the same ft. worth, texas, house since 1942. >> i'm glad for you to come in. >> reporter: she has just celebrated her 104th birthday. as the big balloons in her living room made clear. you had your driver's license until last january? you were 103? >> i was driving everywhere. >> you were? >> i was going to church i was going to the woman's club i was playing bridge. i was doing everything. >> reporter: she credits at least some of her longevity to a lone star state favorite. you're drinking dr. pepper right now.

>> that's exactly right. this stuff is good. it's got sugar in it. and two doctors have told me if i drink it i will die. but they died first. >> okay. so that's proof it's good for you. >> yes. >> so you think that this drink has helped you to live to this age of 104? >> well evidently. because everybody tells me it has too much sugar in it. but since i've been drinking three a day for 50 or 60 years, evidently my body needs sugar. i don't take any medication. they still can't find anything wrong with me. >> elizabeth said other than giving birth and getting her tonsils out, she's never been a hospital patient. even at 104, elizabeth has managed to maintain her independence. a widow, she has two children six grandchildren and 13 great grandchildren, who all want her to live with them. but she wants to stay in her own home. >> if i don't feel like sleeping i come sit in this chair, and pick up a book and

turn on a light, or turn on the tv and stay up all night. >> reporter: elizabeth is a proud graduate of the university of texas. >> i have a key here. i really was smart in college. >> fi beta capa. >> i knew how to do things in college. i could do anything. just made as all the way. >> reporter: she taught high school math in ft. worth for decades. and was still tutoring students until just a few years ago. when we were visiting she received a birthday gift. >> oh my gosh! she calls me gaga. so this is -- she's written about me. gaga turned 104. and the whole world celebrated. oh, my goodness. >> reporter: the granddaughter who sent this is 60 years old. elizabeth sullivan says her life has been fulfilling and very happy. i want to thank you for having us here. >> oh you're welcome.

you're a kind and gentle man. >> and you are a kind and gentle woman. >> reporter: and also a very inspirational woman who proved she can still have fun when you're in your 100s. gary tuchman, cnn, ft. worth, texas. >> we wish her the best. we should all be so lucky. in the next hour of 360, i'll take you inside america's busiest jail with a daily population of 9,000 people. the sheriff said too many people arrested in this country for low level offenses, he said has got to change. fact. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil.

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good evening. 9:00 p.m. on the east coast. a threat against president obama and mrs. obama's niece. according to "usa today," she was accompanied tonight by extra security after someone made a threat. a short time ago i spoke with christine brennan, who is also a cnn sports analyst. >> the freshman forward for princeton is not playing in the game. she's on the bench. but this afternoon the university of maryland athletic department received an eight minute long voicemail, according to a source who told me all about this. and in the voicemail, the woman leaving that message talking about a man who's driving on the campus with a glock handgun, and the voicemail also mentioned

leslie robinson president obama's niece. so at that point the university of maryland stepped up security. they have undercover security officers who are near or on the bench. obviously we can't tell who they are, because they are undercover. and in addition the secret service is here because both sonya sotomayor and elana keggan are here cheering on their princeton tigers. in terms of actual presence you wouldn't know the difference ander son. in fact, i would say that i would never have known any of this were going on had i not been told by my source. >> we're showing pictures from this weekend. we're talking about the daughter of craig robinson the first lady's brother, right? >> that is correct, yes. michelle obama's brother's daughter. >> president obama did attend a game over the weekend. he's not in tonight's game though. >> that is correct. president obama is not at this game tonight. he came saturday when princeton play wisconsin green bay in the

first round. in fact i received an e-mail as part of the media there would be heightened security for that game. they didn't say why. once the word came out that the president was at the game saturday we then understood why that e-mail went out about heightened security 24 hours ahead of time. there was no e-mail going out because of this game. according to my source the threat occurred this afternoon. there was no sense at all, anderson of anything going on until i received this information from a source during the game actually tonight. >> let's hope it was just some sort of a crank call. christine brennan i appreciate you calling in. thank you very much. the police chief in charlottesville charlottesville, virginia said an investigation found no substantive evidence of a gang rape allegation at the university of virginia. an allegation that was detailed in explosive coverage story "rolling stone" last fall. the magazine apologized for the story because of discrepancies. cheap timothy longo said it

doesn't mean something terrible didn't happen to the college freshman called jackie at a fraternity house in 2012, just that the investigation has not uncovered sufficient facts and has no evidence of anything happening at that fraternity house. the case is not closed. so the woman who alleged the rape she didn't cooperate with the authorities. so what did police do to investigate the allegation? >> you know it took a lot of police work. investigators say that they spoke to nine of the 11 members of that fraternity. they sifted through phone records. here's this anderson. they say that they uncovered a photograph of that fraternity house, that they say was electronically slammed on the date of that alleged rape. and nothing jived. >> and the police chief, as i said said that they can't say that nothing ever happened to this woman, but he can say nothing happened to this woman that night at that fraternity. this wasn't the first time she had alleged an attack correct?

>> she had filed a police report previously and it involved four men, a nonsexual attack. one of those men breaking a glass on her face and her roommate then picking that glass from her face. well investigators talked to her roommate and they say that nothing happened. and so they talked to the roommate. the roommate said it didn't happen. and then again, it's just one more allegation that there are discrepancies with this woman's story. >> the roommate said she hadn't -- who is a nursing student -- hadn't picked glass out of the friend's face but there was some sort of a mark on her face right? >> yes. there was some sort of a mark on her face. but it just didn't jive with the details -- the graphic details that she had told police. >> you spoke to a friend who had contact with jackie after the alleged rape. what did he say? >> you know he said as soon as he read the "rolling stone"

article, he knew something was wrong. he said i was quoted in that article, and he said i didn't say that. plus there are a lot of discrepancies. i'll just share one of those with you, anderson. he said in the "rolling stone" magazine it speaks of seven men brutally raping jackie. he said on that night when she called him and a few other friends, she only mentioned five men. >> and her story seems to have changed. rosa, thank you for the details. today, texas republican senator ted cruz became the first in either party to say that he wants to be president. >> i believe god isn't done with america yet. i believe in you. i believe in the power of millions of courageous conservatives rising up to reignite the promise of america. and that is why today i am

announcing that i'm running for president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] >> senator cruz made the announcement at liberty university. he vowed to repeal every single word of the affordable care act, 3r078 sing to abolish the irs, and mocking the notion of global warming. it's the kind of mix that wins caucuses and primaries in places like iowa and south carolina. can the senator also ride that all the way to the republican nomination. joining us with more now on that is senior washington correspondent jeff zelany. jeff cruz's speech today was aimed right square at his conservative base. >> it was, without a doubt. and he's also trying to grow it. what i was struck by is young evangelicals he really believes they're the next generation. and they can help this movement. one adviser told me he's trying to reach evangelicals and tea party activists trying to fuse those together. >> by announcing it today, it

gives him a couple of weeks as the only official candidate in the field. rand paul isn't scheduled to announce sometime next month. >> right. and that's exactly why he did it. rand paul is scheduled to announce on april 7th in kentucky. so gives him a couple of weeks with donors and voters to make his message. he's having a media splash all week. for senator cruz that's exactly why he announced the end of march. >> in terms of popularity where does he rank among conservatives, with a rand paul and mike huckabee? >> we definitely care a lot about senator cruz. he gives a lot of speeches in washington. but across the country people don't know him. mike huckabee has run for president before. so he has a lot of work to do in terms of introducing himself and getting his name out there. he starts pretty much at the bottom of the big field of candidates. he has some company there. it's a very crowded field. he believes his harvard connections, he went to harvard law school his texas money

connections, all those can come together to make him a viable candidate. we'll have to wait and see, anderson. >> jeff thanks very much. make sure to set your dvr, watch "360" whenever you like. why the man who runs america's busiest jail says he would like to lock up far fewer people and more and more liberals and conservatives alike are agreeing.

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focusing tonight on an issue that no longer divides liberals and conservatives the way it once did. back in 1988 george h.w. bush painted dukakis as soft on crime. that fear which actually dates back to the '60s and '70s about rising crime, fueled a kind of arms race when it comes to locking people up. whether for violent or nonviolent offenses. democratic and republican governors alike built more and more prisons and jails. they scrambled to pass tougher sentencing laws. with crime at lows not seen since the 1950s, the country incarcerates more people as a percentage than any other developed nation on earth. today you'll see shortly, plenty of liberals conservatives, now say they want to change that. first, what the problem looks like in the busiest jail in america. >> i'm not sitting here advocating for the people who are murdering, shooting no.

they're the smaller part of my population. >> reporter: tom dart is an unusual sheriff. he thinks the majority of inmates in his jail shouldn't be there. and he's fighting to get them released. he's the sheriff of cook county illinois, which includes the city of chicago. and he runs the cook county jail. what you're saying is radical, especially here from you. it's rare to hear the person running the jail system say, this doesn't make any sense. >> yeah. i know. i know. i think it's because i'm in a unique position where i can see it. having been a prosecutor before never confused with being a bleeding heart liberal. but to sit there and say there's no logic to this? it makes no sense? it's not treating people as individuals, not treating them as humans just as numbers. really just for getting people out of our hair we'll just push them in here and just ignore them. you can't do that. >> reporter: dart wants to change the system so jails like his aren't just a dumping ground

for the poor desperate and mentally ill. the largest single jail site in the united states with an average daily population of 9,000 people. anyone from violent offender to somebody arrested for trespassing is brought here and held until they can make bail. >> good morning, guys. >> reporter: we visited the cook county jail to see firsthand how the system works. first off is what they call intake. anyone arrested in cook county the day or night before is brought here into a holding area. where they're waiting to be processed. in terms of what the crimes they're charged with what sort of things -- >> i think a lot of drug cases, possessions. straight possession. a guy got stopped on the street for whatever reason stopped in a car and he had a small amount of heroin you know coke on him. mostly heroin these days. a lot of retail thefts. guys stealing you know very small items. >> reporter: it's these kind of

misdemeanors that account for many of the arrests in cook county and 75% of the jail population is african-american. >> the larger part of the people are here for drug offenses small property crimes. we have to have a more thoughtful way of approaching them. and not just saying, you know someone stole a can of beer we're going to throw them in here for 300 days. somebody who broke into a place to sleep, we're going to throw them in here for 150 days. >> a lot of the trespassing charges, somebody breaking into an abandoned building to sleep there. >> to sleep. we're not talking about breaking into people's homes. no, we're talking about people breaking into a place to sleep. breaking into someplace to get out of the cold. >> reporter: the u.s. has one of the highest rates of incarceration of any industrialized country. nationwide there are 2.2 million inmates. prison population here increased by 500% over the past 30 years.

the massive rise due mainly to laws to extended sentences, even for low-level drug possession. today nearly half of all federal prisoners are drug offenders. sheriff dart said the laws haven't made us safer. instead, it's only created a system where low-level offenders are locked up and then find it extremely difficult to find a job in housing once they're released. they go back to stealing prostitution crimes of survival, the sheriff calls them. you hear from a lot of people here too, that once they're in this cycle, it's very hard to get out of. >> it's horribly hard to get out. >> reporter: once they've done time they have a record then they go out and have fewer ties to the community than they had before. their place to stay is gone. their relationship with their girlfriend or boyfriend is gone. >> listen this is -- i guess i feel less upset about this if this was very complex and difficult to connect the dots. by and large it's not.

it really isn't. the heart of the illogic is really just rounding people up and holding them for really no thoughtful reason. it's not part of a plan. >> reporter: sheriff dart said the jail is also full of too many people who are mentally ill. he says they need treatment. not time behind bars. the morning after we visited the jail the severely mentally ill man was brought into intake and managed to climb into an air duct. the mental health officials coached him down before he could hurt himself. all this captured on body cameras worn by correction officers. the sheriff's office tells us this is one of many examples of how the jail has become a de facto asylum. how many people have mental health issues that come through here? >> it's staggering. and it's underreported. usually when we talk about our number we're referring to the number i have in my custody, which is about 30%. >> about 30% of the people you have in custody have mental

health issues? >> diagnosed, serious mental health issues whether it's bipolar, schizophrenia, it runs the gamut. >> reporter: here they do receive treatment and medication sheriff dart said that's part of the problem. he says many of these men and women couldn't get access to medication on the outside. so they end up self-medicating with drugs on the street. then when they're caught with drugs, they're simply sent to jail. >> some guy unaware about the system. if you peel apart the case that brought him here you'll say the underlying reason is an illness, not a criminal. but yet our system doesn't seem to care so we dump everybody in here. >> this has become a dumping ground for people with mental illness. >> dumping ground for people with mental illness, and poor people, too. >> reporter: the minimum security part of the jail we met carzell, who is shy and nervous to talk to us, but he wanted to tell us his story. he's been using heroin for more

than 30 years. he says he's been arrested a staggering 83 times. all for nonviolent offenses. what were you arrested for this time? >> simple possession. >> possession? possession of heroin? >> one bag. >> one bag? were you sentenced? >> they offered me one year. >> reporter: he's mostly been arrested for drug possession sometimes shoplifting, sometimes trespassing. while in jail he says he's lost his home and his girlfriend. just being in here back and forth, must make having a regular life hard? it's like a cycle it seems like. >> yeah. i do. i'm tired of coming through here like once you're in the system you don't get home soon. >> what do you mean? >> the police are in the area. >> they know you? >> they know you. just lock you up at random when they want to at times. >> you feel like once you're in the system it's hard to get out of the system?

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we're talking about a criminal justice system in this country that incarcerates more inmates that society can bear. you'll hear from two individuals. they agree that the system needs to change. first, i want to take you back to chicago's cook county jail. arrest charged, incarcerate, repeat. this is how our criminal justice system is run, according to sheriff tom dart. he said it's too expensive, and not working. it's overcrowding the jails, forming a class of largely african-american inmates who are stuck in the system. at a huge expense. >> the people that i deal with come in and out of my jail over

and over and over again. 15 16 20, 30 times. is that something we're -- anything we've done, penalizing is it working? i'd say no. set aside the moral issues that people care to from a financial standpoint. how does that work? it's $150 a day for me to house someone in this jail if they do nothing, just sit in their cell. >> reporter: remember carzell? he was arrested for having one bag of heroin, and will serve about four months in jail. the cost to taxpayers? more than $18,000. sheriff dart said sitting in a cell isn't doing anything to help rehabilitate low-level offenders and points out it's financially unsustainable. people say keeping somebody committing a crime, even if it's a low-level crime off the streets, that does keep them off the streets from committing another crime, or perhaps doing something even worse. >> there probably could be some validity to that argument if there was no real expense

attached to it. it's such an expensive proposition, that i don't know why anybody would say, well keeping them off the street here is better than keeping them on an electronic monitoring device at maybe a shelter where he's fed, not doing anything not causing any problems his meds are being regulated. >> reporter: angela rachel and joshua have all been in the cook county jail more than once. how many times have you been arrested total? >> 23 times they told me. >> 26. >> reporter: 26? >> yes. >> maybe ten. >> angela and rachel arrested multiple times for drug possession and prostitution. joshua was arrested for shoplifting. they've all been addicted to drugs for years. did you steal? >> over-the-counter medicine. >> and was that for your own use? were you going to sell it? >> no it was for resale. >> was that for money for drugs? >> everything, you know.

drugs, food place to stay. >> reporter: none of them have ever been arrested for a violent crime. angela who is 45 said she spent half her life in and out of jail, and she's tired of it. >> since i've been here i've seen five women that left right when i got here and they're back again. and it scares the hell out of me. i don't want to be one of those women. >> and they leave one day and come back the next week. >> reporter: all three are well aware of how hard it will be for them to make it on the outside. they all have to serve probation, find sponsors a place to stay get a job, otherwise they wind up back here. you face a difficult hurdle. all of you are going to get out soon. and the temptation is going to be there to go back to the heroin start using again, and that leads to petty crimes, leads to prostitution.

it's a lot. >> it's overwhelming. >> yes. >> reporter: it feels overwhelming? >> it feels overwhelming. >> reporter: the combined cost of incarceration this time for the three of them more than $94,000. >> they offer you a year. and you go, and you do it. and you get out. and you get caught. and you go. and you do it. and you get out. >> a cycle. >> it's a cycle. >> reporter: angela said if she had only been given treatment the first time she was arrested she might have lived a very different life. that's the hope of sheriff dart to give the majority of these inmates treatment, not jail time. and try to fix a system that he says is at its breaking point. you believe people in the future will look back at this time and shake their heads about how we as a society treated people. >> it will be disgusting. >> in what way? >> in the sense that the same people that find so much joy looking at a dickens novel and saying oh my god, look how

horrible it was back then. what a tortured society that was. then they're sitting there saying these are the same people in our era who just blindly dumped people who had illness issues into jails and prisons. how is that different? >> that's what he's saying that his jail is essentially a dumping ground for the poor people with mental health issues and drug issues. that's just one of many questions that people across the political spectrum have been asking. how is this any different. what can work. what needs to change. some will be gathering this week in washington for big name bipartisan summit on criminal justice reform. people like republican newt gingrich and cory booker, and mark holden. van, you said that you guys were essentially -- i mean sworn enemies. certainly politically on opposite sides of the aisle. >> yeah. >> what's the commonality on

this issue? >> well i think when it comes to criminal justice, it's not a left/right issue. at some point it becomes a right/wrong issue. think about liberty and justice for all. making sure each individual is treated right. you don't want big government you want limited government. prisons are the opposite of that. people like myself concerned about racial justice, concerned about the poor. the prison system is putting a lot of people in jail just because they don't have enough money for a lawyer. but it is weird for us to be working together i'll agree with that. >> mark what needs to be changed? as far as koch industries is concerned, what has to change? >> a lot needs to change. i'll correct van slightly. i've never considered him an enemy. but we can move on from that. we are libertarians. we want to remove the obstacles, the opportunity for the disadvantaged. personally both my work at koch and in wooster mass i was a jail guard. it was a sobering experience.

a lot of kids i grew up with, grammar school middle school and high school, they had drug problems. they got caught in the cycle. the poverty cycle. they're at the bottom of society and they can't get out of it. and we need to start treating people individually in the criminal justice system consistent with the bill of rights. people with drug problems people with mental illnesses, they probably shouldn't be in the criminal justice system. people who make mistakes let's give them a chance to reintegrate and reenter society. >> i was at cook county jail last week and sheriff tom dart who is in charge of it he essentially said the exact same thing. he said this is an unjust system. this is a stupid way of doing things essentially. and once people are trapped in this cycle, you know they can't make bail for $100 they could have made bail, but they can't make bail so they're in jail for months at a time. even if longer than maybe they would have ended up serving.

they can't get a job, there's drug abuse, mental health issues. and obviously racial issues. >> if you're a nonviolent drug offender your basic crime is you're addicted there are much smarter ways to deal with that than put you in prison forever. >> cheaper and smarter. >> i went to yale. 95% of that campus were nonviolent drug offenders. but they didn't wind up going to prison. at best they went to rehab. we know how to deal with people who have those kind of problems. mental health issues. much smarter to take somebody and put them in a hospital than to put them in a prison where they're going to be worse off. if they're poor we need what they call indigent defense. if you're poor and you get trapped in the maze of the government's criminal justice system you're going to be in a world of hurt. those are things we can fix right away. >> i totally agree. you start with the laws that are passed. at the federal level, back when the constitution was first passed or ratified there were three crimes. then there were nine.

the turn of 209th century there were 20zs of crimes. now we don't know for sure because nobody can tabulate 4,500 criminal crimes and hundreds of thousands of regulations. they're really regulating and making criminal those type of activities that shouldn't be criminal. fix the laws. make them more common sense with intense standards. there's the sentencing issues. mandatory minimums disparities, fix that. and lastly is the reentry issues. people who have served their time. particularly nonviolent offenders, why not let them come back and have the restoration of rights. have a productive life. and if we're not willing to do that don't be surprised that most of them go back to prison. >> what's supposed to happen is when you fall down after you've done your time you should be able to get back up and do better. what we do in this country is say you make a mistake at 18 years old, we label you a felon forever. a lot of states you can never vote again. that's wrong. a lot of times you can't get an apartment, or a job.

you have to check a box that you're a felon. it doesn't matter if it's 30 years ago and you've totally changed your life. nobody knows the numbers here. the numbers are shocking. 1 out of every 100 american adults is now behind bars. we have 5% of the world's population 25% of the world's prisoners, which means that 1 out of every 4 people locked up anywhere in the world is locked up in the land of the free. >> is that largely due to the war on drugs? >> it's really the proliferation, the explosion, the overcriminalization, the mass incarceration happened with the war on drugs, in the '80s and '90s. it was bipartisan there, too. let's not forget that. you had reagan clinton, they pushed it. >> every politician wants to be seen as being tough on drugs and tough on crime. >> they need to be smart on drugs and smart on crime. we're going to have a summit on thursday. eight or nine congressmen there. the koch brothers. it means there's a break-through now. we did 30 years, both parties in

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you may remember the movie "war games" starring a very young matthew broad eric. what you might not know in the early 19 will 0s, a group of teenagers in milwaukee managed to break into the computer system at the nuclear weapons research laboratory in los alamos new mexico. they called themselves the 4-1-4s. it's the subject of a cnn documentary. take a look. >> in the design phase -- >> this is channel 12 action news. >> the fbi this afternoon confirmed it is investigating members of a milwaukee area computer club for having

successfully tapped into the computer of the nuclear weapons research laboratory in loss alamos alamos. >> breaking into the computer system was really easy to do. >> how easy was it? >> very, very easy. >> i didn't know what i wanted to do with my life. i mean i thought i was going to do something like bus driving or cab driving. everything seemed boring. i touched a computer, and that was exciting. lunchtime i would eat my lunch and head into the computer room. everyone would go outside and play. i would be in the computer room. i was kind of off in my own world. >> i think this is it. i don't know. >> my dad was an electrical engineer.

and he wanted to start his own business which is why he bought one of the first apple 2 computers in the market area. back then, yeah, it was new. there wasn't a lot of computers around back then. i thought we could put it on a floor mat that is obsolete. yeah, they're still here. >> at that time it was like having a tv back in the '40s or '50s. one family on the block would have one. >> only now we're beginning to stofr ways to use it. >> most of the kids would want to play a game like tic-tac-toe, or a game called hunt the wumpus which was just an adventure game. there were back then things called bulletin board systems where you could dial up on your phone line.

that's what was available before the internet. >> i'd been pretty much a loner. there was an article on how to build your own modem. >> this is basically what i read. it became much more interesting connected with the rest of the world. >> it was explorer scouts that most of us met through. >> beautiful little lake front area here. >> ibm sponsored this explore scout troop located in downtown milwaukee. >> it was right after school. we would sit and program there. work through our code and debug our code. >> the building used to be right -- wow. the building is gone. i haven't come down here in many years. now it's just totally changed. >> we were all together. and i said you know we should have a name for ourselves.

the gangs in milwaukee would identify themselves by the streets, which was their territory. like the 1-9s and 2-7s. >> we joked and said our turf is the milwaukee area code 414, so we're the 414s. >> the story of a bright joyful teenage boy that fiddles around with video games. he taps into the defense department computer that controls our nuclear defense system. >> that particular area the movie "war games" just came out. and it was funny for us to see, because we joke about, oh how that's not real. oh they got this detail wrong. >> shall we play a game? >> at the same time we kind of were recognized in the mainstream. >> wow! where did you get that? >> i was trying to break into -- >> we all sat and wondered, we got an idea from it.

>> it was kind of the original way for somebody to telecommute. it was a matter of what phone number to dial. >> program it to start dialing phone numbers one by one. >> the next morning we would wake up and see, oh there were five different numbers that it connected to. and you start to test the passwords passwords. if by chance you got something to work, that was the pot at the end of the rainbow. all of a sudden, welcome. >> wow. >> the accounts were throughout the whole system. many of the computers were built with a game plan. try to get a high score on it. >> the department heads first noticed the unauthorized entry on a display screen. >> i got on one system that said memorial dos distribution

center. looking on it i could see medical stuff. >> an unknown intruder hacked into the sloan kettering computer in new york. >> it turned out to be a bank that handled multibillion dollar transfers between countries every day. i think we broke into maybe a dozen computers in the u.s. and canada. some of them were in french so we didn't get very far. >> wow. >> sure it may make for a great movie, but that came a little too close. >> the fact that the computer hackers got into the system -- >> the research laboratory at los alamos, new mexico. >> this grid managed to intrude into systems operated at los alamos national laboratory. the intrusion originated in the

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before the break in part one of the cnn documentary, you met the teenage computer hackers in milwaukee who broke into major computer system including the sloan kettering cancer center and the los alamos computer center. the teen agers were charged with is kind of surprising in retrospect. here's part two of the 414. >> water drawing the attention is the fact that the commuter hackers got into the system. >> the computers of the research laboratory at los alamos new mexico. >> this group managed to intrude into systems operated at los alamos national laboratory. >> what was known at that point was that the intrusion

originated in the milwaukee area. >> we had more pop and click on our fault lines. we noticed our modems wouldn't stay connected as often. we suspected we were being monitored. >> one morning, my sister comes into my room and says the fbi is here that's when i realized this is a big deal. i'm if trouble now. >> the fbi obtained a warrant to search the home who said he was curious. >> they assumed me to be some big criminal. one of the first things he said was i'm going to ask some questions that i already know the answers to so don't try to lie. >> i suspected fairly quickly that this was not suspected criminals. in fact it was more like a high school social club basically playing around. >> henry, does that scare you then? let's say some russian secret police could do this potential people? >> the media came out what damage had the cause?

sometimes it was a dramatic playing up of the aspect to it. it was uncommon that we were damaging patient records in your head when you think about patient records, oh my god, they're causing somebody to die. >> an unauthorized intrusion into the computer system caused the computer to fail. >> the condition monitoring the cancer patients. >> this could have been damaging to patients. >> we weren't willing to go on camera my tornado attorneys felt we needed to respond to this. >> friendly cost with the rest of the group, no one has the view that they're not sorry. >> you know over time things come out, well, from sloan kettering, there are some billing records that were destroyed from one of the banks, there was some damage to some of the files. i think there was one company when we printed out a whole bunch of paper, i think it was probably for more damage to their pride for a lot of the companies.

>> i wonder how many other computer programs you and your friend accessed this summer be every the fbi came knocking at your door? >> there is snow way you can say exactly how many computer programs we accessed. >> it's not like it snowballed. >> the "today show," "cbs morning news," "cross files." >> a bunch of kids in wisconsin started erasing the doctor's film. >> yes, we were jealous of neil. he was going around to different tv shows, he was having a good time. he knew he was under age and he wasn't going to be prosecuted. >> you will get some job offers. >> a slimmer of age, we told we were fought allowed to go to the talk shows. >> neil got immunity from prosecution in exchange for cooperating in the fbi's investigation. >> you know he's going on phil done ohue. i'm going to a federal judge show. you know.

>> do you have any dialogue with the rest of the 404s? >> of course. >> you say, of course some guys think you are abandoning them and getting an awful lot of publicity for yourself. >> i did not do. that i was cooperating and information -- >> it was definitely some resentment against, here i get this ban for what it was. some were worried about being convicted. the dynamic of the media frenzy split us. we ended up really not staying close. close. >> one of the things that happened because we did what we did was move laws that were created. neil went on to capitol hill. >> milwaukee 17-year-old neil patrick testified before a house subcommittee saying protecting

both computers was as simple as making passwords more complex. >> at what point did you first question the ethical propriety of what you were doing. >> once the fbi knocked at my door. door. >> 60 bulletin. amber. >> affiliated with isis has posted a hit list with the

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