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that is it for us. "ac360" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, thanks for joining us tonight. new information we are just getting in about the crash of an airliner flown by millions of people every day all around the world. the information that could shed light on the crash today of german wings 9525.
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as you probably know, it went down in the french alps on a flight from barcelona to dusseldorf, germany. the plane descending 27,000 feet in nearly 8 minutes and apparently flying straight into the ground. tonight, there is new focus on a key safety feature on airbuses that can sometimes under rare conditions put them into a descent that can hard to stop. airbus knew of the problem, and the european aviation safety agency the equivalent of america's faa issued a warning about it nearly four months ago. rene marsh has been working her sources on this. she joins us momentarily, but first, how this tragedy unfolded. >> reporter: 10:01 a.m., local time, germanwings 9525 takes off from barcelona after a 26 minute delay. flies over the mediterranean and starts to climb. around 10:27, hits cruising altitude after 38,000 feet. just about three minutes later,
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right around the time 9525 is back overland in france, something goes wrong. loses altitude quickly, a span of about 8 minutes, drops nearly 27,000 feet to 11,400 feet. it's now deep into the french alps. >> you just don't descend. as a pilot, you have to request the descent, have to request to change altitudes. since we know they didn't do that because air traffic control did not know, had not communicated with them that they were talking to air traffic control, they could have told them about any problem they had on board. so whatever caused any problem was unable to communicate or have no time to communicate. >> as the plane goes further into the mountains, it continues to lose altitude. at 10:53, it crashes into the french alps. 150 people were on board. 144 passengers including two infants and six crew members. the crash site is extremely
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remote. those first on the scene describe the plane as obliterated. the largest pieces of wreckage no bigger than a small car. the chances of anyone surviving is slim. i'm concerned with the suffering that's being brought to so many people, german chancellor, angela merkel says. we'll do everything to get the help they need in these difficult hours. nearly half of those on board were german, including 16 students from the same high school. a vigil started earlier in the day by fellow students. grows as night falls, the hope of any classmates survived fading. the crash site, one of two black boxes is found. hundreds continue to work on both the recovery effort and to try and figure out exactly what happened to flight 9525. well, more on that piece of air
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bus safety technology can sometypes sometypes determine if the nose is point inging too high, but if something goes wrong with the sensors, it can figure out if the plane knows if it's pointing too high for the plane to keep flying and then steps in automatically to force the nose back down. the problem occurs when something goes wrong with those sensors. the result, obviously, could be terrifying. the aviation correspondent rene marsh joins us now with more. you're learning about the safety alert regarding the type of plane. what's the latest? >> reporter: anderson, just for context, we know these directives are relatively common. many are oftentimes issued for an aircraft. so that alone isn't a red flag but in the absence of knowing exactly what went wrong on board this airbus a 320, we look at possible problems we've seen in the past. this is the actual dock. this is the air working its directive and issued by the
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european aviation safety association. administration. so we know their concern according to this document stems from an a-321, that is the same family as the a-320. just slightly larger. the problem was that there were two, what's called an angle of attack probes on the airplane. essentially, what these two probes do is measure the angle of the plane to the horizon. if those two pieces of equipment are not functioning properly, you could have the situation where the pilot is getting the wrong indications inside of the cockpit and based on that wrong information, the pilot is then entering his or her commands, but again, that's based on wrong information. and you have a situation where this plane could go out of control. so that is something that is being looked at. that was brought up in the press conference today. and the ceo of the airline did make reference that all the software updates and the maintenance has been completed on this particular aircraft. >> what about the history of
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this kind of a plane? >> well, we know this specific aircraft is about 24 years old. so it is an older aircraft that's being said, it's not something that when you look at it, you say, look, this plane should not have been flying. yes, it's an older aircraft. it had many hours on it, but still, many aircraft out there are still flying at this age. we don't believe at this point that age will be an issue. we understand it underwent a nant -- maintenance check just yesterday and underwasn't larger maintenance check in 2013. so it really just makes this mystery even deeper because you know it had been looked at by these engineers the day before, anderson. >> thank you for joining us, rene. now our panel. richard quest. cnn aviation analyst, les abend. former ntsb chair, and analyst
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david soucie, former investigative and author of malaysia airlines 360, why it disappeared and why it's a matter of time before it happens again. richard, at this point, what makes sense to you? >> very little. the nature of the plane, it was in cruise, the safest part of the flight. it was flying in extremely sophisticated airspace. under euro control, and the first class airline, and first world class airline germanwings, and owned by lufthansa, and to reneys point, remained under the tactic which is industry'ss standard. >> there is no difference between germanwings and lufthansa wings and other planes.
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>> germanwings has been a child of lufthansa going backwards and forward for years. it's now a crucially important part of lufthansa. so no, it's lufthansa group through and through. >> les, to you, does anything make sense? what possible explanation is there for this? >> there's a lot of disturbing things to me. the lack of communication richard and i were talking about prior to when we got on air. you know, what i would like to know is what the communication was like all the way up to the point where we had our last contact with the aircraft. that's not being talked about at this point in time probably because that information isn't quite available for the public. but that being said, something caused this airplane to come out, to leave cruise altitude. and i have a feeling, my gut says the crew was compelled because of an energy situation. what that emergency situation was, i don't know. it wasn't fast enough to do an emergency descent, which you would find in explosive depressurization. which you would know right away. >> that's the thing. this was an eight-minute descent. not exactly plummeting or anything like that. >> this is a descent rate that may be a little bit steeper than normal but not really a whole lot.
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i've done this rate of descent on a normal approach, or a normal descent rate into heathrow. we know nothing about it. the attack, we don't know if that was a factor. that's a scary factor but we don't know. >> let's not put too much emphasis on that certainly at this point in time. >> deborah, if it were some sort of omechanical issue one of the biggest question ss if it was problem specific to this aircraft for this e fleet, this a-320 fleet in general. >> that's right. and investigators are going to be looking very closely at that. one of the reasons why they really want to get those reporters as fast as possible is because they're trying to figure out if there's an air worthiness issue not just for this specific airplane but for the fleet. if there are larger
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implications if there are inspections that need to take place or any additional information operators need to have. >> david, when you look at the debris field, the lack of fire, the lack of smoke, i don't know if that's the pictures are old, but does it tell you anything? >> well, it does tell me that it was a singular point of primary impact. it appears to be two scattered points. meaning the aircraft did kind of skim or break apart just before it hit its main scatter point. but at this point, this type of accident, what's happening in this realm is that the aircraft not only explodes as it hits the ground, but it kicks back. there's a kickback effect. and those debris pieces that are coming back are intersecting and colliding with the aircraft that's going forward. this all happens within less than a second but all happens together. that's why you see these horribly shattered pieces of aircraft debris, the good side of this is the fact the passengers on board would have had no idea, no clue what was coming other than they were descending. may not have known whether to prepare for impact or not.
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but the only good side of this is that it happened in less than a second. certainly not ability to recognize what was actually happening to them on board. >> david, you're saying not only, so the plane, as it impacts the ground, breaks apart. but also, those pieces that, as it moves forward, the pieces that have broken off then bounce back and hit the aircraft? >> right. it's kind of a splashback effect if you can imagine something hitting solid. it kicks back from that and makes a reverse push backwards. almost makes a reverse push backwards. most of the investigations i've done in this type of terrain, most of the debris field is backwards from the direction it was going in the first place. so those pieces that hit the ground come back at the rest of the remaining part of the aircraft. had an intersection and actually had these collisions, massive collisions as they're bouncing back, the back of the aircraft still coming forward. so this happens so instantaneously and people ask me, why are there so many little tiny pieces? because it's literally bouncing back and colliding with itself.
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and that's what creates this massive debris field and explosion. >> david, in terms of a debris field like this on a mountain slope, it's got to be incredibly difficult to work this kind of a crash site. >> it's very similar to an air crash i worked up in casper wyoming, and it was snowing then. we had snow. we had debris. we had everything on the ground. we couldn't actually find the accident. we found a spot where we suspected it had hit. i was dropped off in a helicopter because there was no place to land. search and rescue in snow cats. they don't have that advantage here. they can't take snow cats or snowmobiles up to the area because it's already difficult to get to. that night in casper, because of that terrain an investigating we were able to find it in the snow but the helicopters couldn't come back to get us, and the search and rescue team we stayed there the night to
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find out what we saw what we could, and we were able to get there when we could. so that is one of the things that i saw that they quit quick ly and got the investigators out of there quickly. >> we're going to have to -- >> pull the investigators right away. >> we're going to have more on this. take a quick break, continue the conversation and check in with nic robertson, a staging area in the alps and what may have been going on in the cockpit. more theories as the crash investigation gets under way. look! this is the new asian inspired broth bowl from panera bread. our hero is the soba noodle. (mmmm) which we pair with fresh spinach (ahhh)
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breaking news in flight 9525. there are problems in some airbuss like the one that crashed today, and it may be a problem that can cause them to descend suddenly and nothing they can do to stop unless they shutoff flight control computers. a lufthansa flight and european authorities issued a bullet in to address it. it's too early to say. recovery operations under way tomorrow. nic robertson is at a staging area now. what's the latest, nic?
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>> reporter: the crash site is above us in the mountains. about 7 miles this way and of those, hamper efforts and the fact the whole side is so steep there, the wreckage side is over several hundred meters. that's a concern. access is really only by helicopter. we've seen those helicopters sitting on the ground here throughout the day and the question when daybreaks in the morning, how low is the clouds and will the helicopters be able to fly and get access to the site? the rain has been coming over some of the high mountain passes here has been particularly strong and that if it is falling rain or snow again at the crash site, that is also a worry, anderson. >> obviously, concern for families is have they been able to cover any of their loved ones.
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have teams been able to recover any of the passengers? >> reporter: yeah. from what we understand so far, helicopters have only been able to fly over the site. although, we do understand one black box has been recovered and taken away. but as far as landing to try to get to some of the victims, that hasn't happened. the french air accident investigation team is expected here soon. that's a seven-member team and they will have a member or a couple of members of the airbus investigation team with them, and that is the b.e.a., and that is the french airbus investigation team that is going to be leading the team and they will be joined by the b.f.u. and that is the three-member team of the german investigation team and it is the french who will be leading the team, but so much concern to bring the victims off of the mountainside, and it has not startsed yet, an ededstartsedder
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-- started yet, an der anderson. >> nic robertson, appreciate the update. one possible theory at the top of the program, others as well. as always at this stage, more theories than hard facts. the white house was quick today to discount the possibility of terrorism. not everyone is. that said, even ruling out a deliberate act leaves other possibilities. tom foreman has been exploring them. he joins us now. tom? >> we've talked to pilots, accident investigators, and they have said the passengers on board this plane or during the descent may have not noticed really unusual because the descent wasn't that fast. and that sort of does away with one of the first theories we've been hearing so much about here. the idea maybe this was simply a catastrophic failure in the air, like a wing or tail fell off of this plane. if that happened, it would probably come down much faster. it would be spread over a bigger area than the debris field you've been showing for some time now. that theory is not getting a lot of credence right now. here's another theory. is it possible that they in fact came in under control? if you look at the pattern of flight here, all of these experts we've talked to today
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said this looks like a deliberate act. like there was a decision to either set the auto pilot to come down gradually like this or the plane was being brought in gradually, potentially while the pilots dealt with some problem they knew they had and just ran out of geography here. had no more time in space and hit the mountains. if that's the case, if they had enough control to do this on purpose, then why all these experts ask, did they not try to turn and make it to some of the other airports, which were not really that far away. they would have at least had a shot at. so anderson, those are some of the real questions that are out there right now. >> is it possible they didn't know they had a serious problem? >> you know, that sounds like a crazy idea and yet, everyone we've talked to today said yes. it's absolutely possible. there's a phenomenon called control flight into terrain. and what that means is that the pilots are in control of a plane and for some reason, they don't realize what they're doing.
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maybe there's a problem with instrumentation that gives them the wrong sense of their air speed or the attitude of the planes pointing up or down, the altitude of the plane. maybe they become so fixated on a given problem they lose what's called situational awareness. and they don't know that they're flying into the mountains until it's too late to do anything about it. anderson? >> terrifying thought, that. tom, thank you. just aheadly talk to a french mountain guide who actual lily saw the crash site in the alps. he was able to get up there. and hopes for flight barcelona, flight 9525 originated and some of the families on board waiting for word.
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its destination. both airports tonight, obviously, a heartbreaking scene. karl penhaul joining us now. a lot of things going on. you've been trying to get answers. what are you learning? >> absolutely, anderson. we've been trying to push lufthansa on a few things. came to a press conference and said, this plane was in great working order. it had a routine maintenance check only yesterday, but it was only under pressure from report reporters that we heard from a spokesman by phone that we were told that it was routine maintenance check and that it was clear that it was also grounded because there was a problem around the door of the nose of the landing gear. what that problem was, well, the company still hasn't specified except to say that it was not a safety issue.
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but that's exactly what it was. fast forward then to this morning. and that plane, again, it was late taking off by about 26 minutes. and again at the press conference this afternoon, we've pushed the lufthansa vice president, why did your plane take off late? she said, i didn't know. it has taken us now more than 13 hours to get that simple answer from lufthansa. only a few moments ago, the spokesman in germany said he believes that the reason that their plane left late was not a technical issue. they believe it was a flight control issue, that it was the control tower that told lufthansa to start that plane up a little later than was scheduled, but as i say, we rare having to push luf and the really hard to get some simple answers here, anderson. >> the families of the loved ones of the victims, just a horrific time for them. a horrific wait for them. they may be moved to france, those now in barcelona? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. i mean, it is a tragedy that transcends nations and transcends generations because there are a number of nationalities on board.
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lufthansa, again, working through to tell us exactly who was on board. we know there were germans, spaniards on board, australians, colombians, possibly argentineans on board. we haven't got the final list. as for age, we know two babies on board. we know two opera singers on board. we know 16 german school kids on board on a exchange program with a spanish school not far from here from barcelona, but what lufthansa is now telling us around 150 family members and friends gathered here at barse ecelo barcelona in the course of today and lufthansa study inging the
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possibility of whether it's practical to take them to france during the day so they can be close closer to the recovery operations. right now, those 150 family and friends spending the night close to the airport. they have support from medics and psychologists as well to help them through what lufthansa is calling this very dark day. anderson? >> dark indeed. karl penhaul. now, richard quest. debra hersman, president of the national safety council and former ntsb chair. david soucie, former faa investigative and inspector. an eight-minute descent from 17,000 feet over the course of eight minutes. you would think they would have time to communicate, but do we know much about where there was communication? >> the nature of this descent suggests that basically the plane was told to descend. it continued to do that until it hit the ground. the fact that there was no may day from the cockpit or warning or emergency call from the cockpit but also crucially, the ground was calling the plane constantly. this is very controlled airspace. you suddenly start leaving your
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altitude without telling people what you're doing, you get people asking and that happened again and again and again. the fact they didn't respond to that suggests that something quite obviously dramatic was happening, whether they were conscious, whether they were able to at that particular point. >> debra, you heard a witness a moment ago who actually climbed the scene, talk about the lack of large pieces of the aircraft. presumably, makes it harder to reconstruct what happened. >> absolutely. but the black boxes are going to be the biggest single piece of evidence to support what the investigators are doing. once they have the black boxes, that will really provide them the road map of what clues are the most important to them. if they're looking at engines or control surfaces or certain parts to the aircraft that they have to try to locate. the black box data helps them pinpoint that. they're not looking for a needle in a hay stack. they can get very specific very quickly. >> david, how plausible is it both pilots were conscious and yet so consumed with some on board situation or emergency,
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they either didn't realize they were flying into the alps and as richard talking about, weren't able to respond to any incoming calls? >> you know, it's highly unlikely because of the fact that it was eight minutes going on, there and so to be responding to an emergency for eight minutes, especially in that controlled manner, it is highly unlikely that is the case. especially, because the air traffic controllers were call ging them as well, and trying to make contact with them, and of course, we don't have that information as to what the communication was back and forth completely but that suggests to me some incapacitation either by the pilots or some failure in the communication system or perhaps some ee ne fair ta --
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nefarious act going on that prevented them. >> richard, during the break, you were talking about the angling of attack. what does that mean? >> this is the issue that 320, identified. in certain situations, the plane automatically thinks it's going to stall and then therefore begins its own descent. >> this is what rene marsh was talking about at the top of the broadcast. >> the plane starts to do it itself and you can't stop it. >> it does it because the sensors believe the plane has stalled? >> correct. the plane believes that the sensors, the angle of attack indicators have stalled and the plane is about to fall out of the sky, completely erroneously, therefore the protection starts the automatic descent. there's been several incidents of this where descents have begun, pilots have not been able to stop it. airbus has now identified the situation, and developed a work around and you switch some of the computers and confuse the plane and take back koncontrol.
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is this one of those situations? we don't know. you know, there is a descent. it seems to be, but what we don't have in this situation is the callout. mayday pan pan -- we're going down. the descent. we're trying to -- >> it seems a controlled descent. over the course of 8 minutes, it's not as if this is a plane plunging out of the sky. >> this didn't plunge out of the sky. this was a float into the ground. >> terrifying. everybody stay with us. we'll continue this after the break. also, we learn more as karl penhaul mentioned. the flight and two opera singers on their way home after performing in barcelona. i talk to a friend and colleague of one of the singers. ice tool to help you find a price that fits your budget. uh-oh. the name your price tool. she's not to be trusted. kill her. flo: it will save you money! the name your price tool isn't witchcraft! and i didn't turn your daughter into a rooster. she just looks like that.
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candlelight memorial tonight in germany. breaking news, recovery efforts set to resume at daylight where germanwings 9525 went down. airline officials believe there are no survivors. 144 passengers, six crew members on board the a-320. recovered one of the data recorders but the cause of disaster still very much unknown tonight.
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back with richard quest, debra hersman, and david soucie. i mean, obviously, at this point nobody is suggesting foul play. there's no indication of that. all the bags, but all the bags that were in the cargo area, they would have been rescreened going through barcelona. no matter where other passengers went. >> it's more complex than that. it's depends where they're going to, the point of origin, the destination is. any bags that were going to end up in the united states or elsewhere are screened multiple times. so, you know, you're talking, remember, germanwings is point to point. it has a certain amount of spoken connectivity. the core principle of german wings set up by lufthansa is that it's not a hub operation. it takes people from one city to the other.
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that's the idea of germanwings. >> where else do they normally fly? >> it had to identify the problem. lufthansa is too expensive. costs are too high. they introduce germanwings and said, germanwings flies from manchester to dusseldorf. barcelona. but not to the hubs. the hubs will still be for lufthansa, the main airline. it's a cost-cutting mechanism to try to reduce costs for the airline. >> and a number of flights have now by germanwings have been cancelled out of dusseldorf. the crew members felt unfit to fly. not necessarily about their aircraft, but just based on their reaction to this crash. >> yes. and we don't know the full reason why these cancellations have taken place, but the later reports suggest that they're distressed by what happens. entirely understandable. >> debra, government officials are quick to rule out terrorism whenever they can. at this point, how can they be so sure? >> you know, i think there's
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always early indications that you might see. the reports. people taking credit for things. or events that go wrong. i say it's very challenging to rule anything out at this stage without examining, fully examining the evidence and looking at the recorders, but there are a lot of sources of intelligence and i think the government officials are going to rely on those to put out the best information possible. >> david, earlier, you said that you don't believe passengers on board the plane would have known perhaps anything was wrong. wouldn't they have seen though, i mean, realized the plane was heading down in an area where it wasn't supposed to be heading down? >> certainly they would have noticed it's descending and been in the middle of the flight. they would have known something is wrong going forward but there wouldn't have been any traumatic i know we're going to crash thing. at this point, they look down at the sides. maybe for the last few seconds as they enter that canyon. they would have realized that
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something is going to go terribly wrong. but i think that during that descent, they may not have had any questions about it, other than why are we descending but the point of impact, my point is there was no suffering, no painfulness. it was within seconds, within a second probably. that is when this occurred. i don't think there would have been pain and suffering at least. >> david, other crashers, twa flight 800, they basically reconstructed the entire aircraft. in a situation like this where you have such small pieces, will the black boxes be enough? do they actually need to go through that whole process in a crash like this? >> well, in a crash like this, the black boxes will have to be enough because that's pretty much all you're going to get out of it. even small components such as the flight management computer, the flight controls, those type of little devices, even the e-prompt chips we've talked about before on mh 17 and other accidents, those tiny little
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chips are damage and fragmented. there is not going to be any evidence really unless there's pure luck that secured something like that. but typically in this kind of an consent accident, you wouldn't do a reconstruction. >> thank you for being with us, david susie, debra hersman and richard quest. we learn more about the passengers on board of the doom flight. two opera singers, who were performing at barcelona. we speak to a friend and colleague of one of those singers next. ♪ s that every organization has unlimited access to information, no matter where they are. the microsoft cloud gives our team the power to instantly deliver critical information to people, whenever they need it. here at accuweather we get up to 10 billion data requests every day. the cloud allows us to scale up so we can handle that volume. we can help keep people safe and to us that feels really good.
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at least 67 german citizens are believed to have perished on germanwings flight 9525. victims include 16 high school student s students returning from an exchange program in spain. in their town and across germany, obviously, the heartbreak is immeasurable. dusseldorf was the final destination of the flight. frederik pleitgen is there with the latest. fred? >> reporter: hi, anderson. certainly, i would say germany at this point is a country that's in shock and also
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somewhat in disbelief. one of the things that we have to keep in mind is that this is a country that absolutely prides itself on its ingenuity, and that extended into aviation. people would not have had a second thought of getting on a german wigts flight. but in the early stages, it's about the victims. as you said, especially those 16 high school students who were on the flight, the town they were from was only an hour and a half away from where i am right now here in dusseldorf. a place called haltern. a small place. 37,000 people live there. they nominated the mayor of the town to speak there because speak at the school didn't want much of the media attention. he said it was an absolutely devastating time for that town. the hardest that he'd ever witnessed and of course, everybody there in an absolute state of shock. you could see how people were laying down flowers in front of the school, lighting candles and people breaking out into tears again and again. that's certainly something that happened in a lot of places in germany today and especially here around the dusseldorf area. we've been talking about the two
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opera singerers and the two infant infants that were killed. >> terrible. thank you, frederik pleitgen, for reporting. people on the board include two claimed two opera singers maria radner and oleg bryjak. they had performed all over barcelona. they were on their way home. bryjak had been affiliated with the ensemble there since 1996. he performed on stages all over the world. luis fernando piedra is colleague and friend. joins me tonight. i'm so sorry for your loss. >> it has been a little bit
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difficult for all of us here in the opera house in dusseldorf and main problem, going to tell you, as grown-ups, we know sometimes it's going to happen to all of us but the sadness in which it happens is, can describe it only as staggering. >> what kind of guy was oleg? tell us about him. >> very sensitive person. and it's very easy going professional and very nice and caring friend. and he used to take all situations at work and all personal situations with a certain calm that's actually irradiated a little calm for everyone around him. that's the way he was. very easy going and very sensitive to him. >> and professionally, i understand he performed in more than 30 operas. he traveled the world for work. as a singer, as an opera singer, what was he like? >> that's right.
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>> paris, london los angeles, chicago, you name it. everywhere there was a big opera house, he was there. and he's been singing through his career, very big roles that are really demanding. the father in "hansel and gretel" and "magnifico" and -- we are talking about high caliber things. people sometimes ask us, where do we actually have microphones? the point is that on the 2,000, 3,000 people. i remember there was a scene in which he interacted with me as he was singing, and i was always in the production, kind of amazed and how he was able to
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project his voice like laser beam s to beams to the public. it was very surprising. >> luis, again, i'm so sorry for your loss and i appreciate you spending time with us to tell us about oleg. thank you. >> thank you. we'll of course continue to follow the airliner crash. up next, if there's one thing we know about newly announced presidential candidate ted cruz is he despises obama care. and also at the top of the hour join us as kyra phillips has a special report on atheists inside the world of non-believers.
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a lot more happening tonight. amara walker has a "360" bulletin. >> republican presidential candidate ted cruz made it his mission to get rid of obamacare but he will sign up for it. cruz is losing the insurance he had with his wife heidi's job at goldman sachs, because she is taking unpaid leave while he is campaigning. this is what he had to say to dana bash today. >> get insurance presumably through the senate. be like the millions of overs. >> you'll be getting obamacare, effectively. >> it is one of the good things about obamacare is the statute
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