n the east coast and 4:00 a.m. in the french alps where investigators are scrambling to make sense of the report that a pilot was locked out of the cockpit. we are live with the latest on that, and plus sergeant bowe bergdahl charged with desertion, and we will talk to the sergeant who served with him in afghanistan, and he says that president obama should not have traded five taliban prisoners for sergeant bowe bergdahl. and now, a shocking report that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit. and now, "the new york times" is citing one of the most chill inging details that you can hear on the tape that the pilot outside of

the door was trying to smash down the door. we will have much more breaking news on that story, but first, bowe bergdahl describing the captivity and the conditions in which he was held. he is now charged with desertion. pentagon reporter barbara starr is joining us now. it is an interesting read, and tell us more about what sergeant bowe bergdahl said. >> well don, this came this evening along with a letter from the civilian defense attorney, a lengthy document where the attorney tries to make the case that bergdahl is already not guilty of the charges of which he is the army has presented him with and this is followed up from several pages from bowe bergdahl himself h, detailing brutality, and torture. and let me go through a few pieces of this.

he says quote, i was kept on constant isolation for the five years with little understanding of time. i was told they was going to be be executed. he was chained to a bead, spread-eagle and blindfolded he said. he had at one point 8 to 12 open wounds from the hand shack lts. he was beaten with a copper cable, and he goes on the say that at some points his health did improve, and that he tried to escape a dozen times. one of the times he was a waiway for nine days before he was caught. he was out in essentially the woods. he didn't know where he was and he didn't have food, water or supply and basically he says that he was so dehydrated and the condition was so poor at that time that basically the body just stopped on him, and the taliban found him. all of this is something that certain ly certainly the defense would make a case that he has paid a terrible price. people have a good deal the of compassion for what he went

through, but in the united states' mill fair, if in fact, he is found to -- military, if he is in fact found to have left his post and gilluilty of desertion, that is very serious charge. >> one of the charges is misbehavior before the enemy, and explanin that to us, barbara this is. >> well, it is a big catch-all, and perhaps more serious. that charge in the uniform code of millitary justice begins with the language "shamelessly leaving your post" and in fact the army today said that if he was convicted of that charge, he could face life in prison, life in the detention. so a lot of this is also raising the question could there be a plea bargain? could they work behind the scenes to work something out where he may serve some detention detention, and may not serve years and year and if he is paying a high enough price, and

one of the questions, he has promoted while in captiveity and hundreds of thousands of backpay, and something that the army is not likely to let him keep if he is found guilty and the discipline and what is the evidence and can they make the charges? do they have enough to go to the full blown trial, or is there a decision somewhere along the way to come to the plea bargain to deal it out, and not have it to go through the lengthy proceeding? >> do you have a sense that they don't want it to go to the court-martial or not? >> well, it is an interesting question, because the general who sent it on to the next step he could have made a decision, a and he could have said, i'll have this, you know, he could have set out the discipline for bergdahl and been done with it but by all accounts, by sending it to the next step with the army saying that we want to put it before a panel, and we want them to decide and hear the

evidence so they are now going to go to the article 32 which is a essentially grand jury pro procedure, and present the evidence, and cross-examination the witnesses, if it goes that way, but if any point, it could be the case they come to some sort of agreement that the defense counsel might say, what can we do here? can we come to the plea agreement with you and stop this? this is going to be if it goes to trial, it is going to be getting headlines. this is a situation where there is at lt of emotion, don. >> barbara starr at the pentagon and now we go to the ground with martin savage in san antonio with more. martin martin? >> according to the officials here in san antonio, there is no determination of the freedom state here, and in other words, bowe bergdahl is not held in captive captivity, and the movements not restrained in any way. remember he came here to san

antonio right after he was freed from captiveity, because, well, for two reasons, one, the medical facilities here, because he needed medical facilities, and they have a program here to reintegrating former prisoners of war back into life is one way to describe it. once he come e pleated that, he was given a desk job working in the army at fort sam houston, and that is his life. the only thing that sis different for him is that whenever he leaves the post, he is escorted by two soldiers, and that is to be for his own safety. as to what comes next an article 32 hearing is here at fort sam houstonwustonhouston, and that is to see if it is enough evidence to warrant a court-martial. and the next question is what is often asked, has sergeant bowe bergdahl been reyuunited with his parents since his return are

from captivity, but as far as we know there is no face-to-face meet inging. >> martin savage, thank you for that. and i want to bring in former sergeant josh quarter, and he served with him in afghanistan, and he joins us via skype, and also sandra andrews whose son also served with sergeant bowe bergdahl. sandra i want to speak to you that you spoke to darren after sergeant bowe bergdahl disappeared, and what did he tell you? >> he told us that one of the guys walked off of post and they were having to spend 24/7 looking for him. and he said -- >> continue. >> and he just said that he walked off. he said that he left all of his things in a little stack the on his bunk and left. >> did they have any idea at the time why? >> no other than the fact that

he had told not daryn, but that d daryn had talked about how unhappy he was over there. >> and tell me what happened to daryn, sondra? >> well, darryn was on a mission, and they were in a village and moving out of that village, and he was the first platoon. his front vehicle hit a i.e.d. and was in a hole and he and the men were out getting the soldiers out of the vehicle, and then trying to evaluate how to get their truck out of the hole. as they were standing there, he turned and when he turned he got a glint, and he yelled, "rpg" and got to all of the guys and the first sergeant was standing there with him and the radio man was standing there with him, and he pushed both of them down and fell on them, and

he was had a direct hit when he fell down on top of his shoulders. >> my goodness. josh you served with bergdahl and you searched for him. any question in your mind as to what happened? >> no as mrs. andrews said we found all of his stuff. and when you leave all of that stuff behind your weapon and body armor, it is pretty clear what your intentions were, and i am sure that he did not want to come back and he left on his own fruition. >> i want to play for you, josh some of what heis attorney told my colleague anderson cooper. >> i think that once people have a case of what he sis, and some

of the people may rue some of the dreadful things that he they have been say ging. >> what do you think that he means when he says their motivations? >> well, the only thing thing is that bergdahl knows what why he left and i saw something earlier that the lawyer refused to answer the question of why he left, so i can't imagine that there is some significant reason that is going to be just falling out of the sky that is going to be justifying what he did. >> sondra what do you mean by his motivations? >> i'm not sure. i agree. i don't know what his motivation would be. all i know is that he put a whole group, several brigades there in jeopardy with his actions. whatever his motivation was, he did not consider his fellow soldiers in any sense. >> in a written statement though bergdahl's attorney he

said that there is no evidence that any soldier died searching for him, and that is a quote, and what is your reaction to that sondra? >> well, i definitely say that he is wrong. i mean my son was on the mission, and they were looking for him, and he was can killed. how much more evidence do we need? and plus the other five young men. i mean it happened. >> let's talk about what he says when he talks about his time in captivity, and this is bowe bergdahl's statement, he says that he was kept in constant isolation with the entire five years with little to no understanding of time with all darkness and periods of constant light, and periods of completely random flickering of light, and constantly shown

taliban videos. told i was go ging to be executed. told i was never going back, and told i would be leaving the next day, and the next day and told i would be there for 30 years. told i was go g ting to die there. told to kill myself. told i would have my ears and nose cut off, as well as other parts of my body. does that make you feel differently, josh? >> i don't think that any pictures of him in captiveity reflects what he was saying. yes, the people who captured him might have been saying all kinds of things to him. but there is no oefd on his body, and there is no photos on his body that show that he was in bad health at all. the ones when he was released, he walked without limping to the helicopter withouts a sis and the, a on the other hand marks on the face and like no evidence of ill effect on him

whatsoever. >> sondra, do you agree? >> i totally agree. he does not look anything like a captive. >> your son was award eded the silver star for his heroic actions of which he spoke about throwing himself on top of the comrades. when you heard the president in the rose garden and heard susan rice talking about bergdahl, what did you think? >> i was most upset. i could not believe that he was calling that young man a hero when myself and five other young men and many others had been fighting for our country and fight fighting for the rest of the

country and the fact that none of us were invited to the white house house. and it would have been nice that he had some respect and feelings for us. whereas i had received a letter that had his stamped name on it. >> and what do you say to the president? >> i think that he has let us down. i think that he has let the families down of the military. i think that he has let down everyone, because he's and he has breached the integrity of the country. >> and sondra andrews, thank you the, and thank you for your son's service. and josh korder thank you, and thank you for your service. >> thank you for having us. >> we will be back with the bowe bergdahl controversy, and much

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just ten months ago president barack obama hailed the return of sergeant bowe bergdahl in the rose garden and now he was charged with

desertion and misbehavior in front of the enemy. and now joining us is the author of "warrior diplomat a green beret's battle from washington to afghanistan. i" ""michael g. waltz, and also joining us is michael white of the u.s. army, and what are your thoughts tonight? >> i am pleased to see them sending it to artle 32 and sending it to trial. i was in the command of special units look g foring for him, and we knew at the time that he had walked off of the base and that he had essentially deserted the post. the taliban knew that we were throwing out all of the stops to look for him, and actively

baiting us into the ambushes and into one case a house rigged with explosives and no doubt in my mind that soldiers died looking for him, and i'm pleased to see sergeant bergdahl be held accountable for the actions. >> and his attorney says that there is no evidence that nobody died and you are saying that you have no doubt that anybody died look g foring for him. >> well, here is the case, every military member in afghanistan, for a period of time in 2009 was told to stop what they were doing a direct order to shift every asset, predator drones and what have you to look for sergeant berg doshlgs and men die -- sergeant bergdahl as ms. andrews just said on your program, and so there is a need for justice. and so frankly, the wisdom of trading five of the most senior taliban officials in guantanamo

bay for what the army is now saying is a deserter. >> you say, colonel the maximum is a life in prison, and will he get the opportunity to plea bargain? >> well it is premature at this point. there is a lot of emotion involved in this case, and soldiers like your guests and unfortunately soldiers who lost their lives in afghanistan and their families are justifiably concerned about how this has been handled, but we have to step back a minute, and remember a couple of things, this is a criminal process. he is still presumed innocent and the government the prosecution is going to have to present evidence that it is admissible under the rules of evidence in court to prove the element of these two offenses that it has alleged, and i think that the fact that the officer who preferred these charges, and

so everybody knows what this means, this is not meaning that it is going to trial. this is just a charge. this is the initiation of the process, and we have to go through a preliminary hearing called the article 32 hearing, and then all of that evidence will be presented to the commanding general who will at that point decide whether or not he believes this case should go to court-martial which is the criminal trial. but the fact that the commander who selected the charge on the advice of his military attorney after a very deliberate careful and methodical investigation not only charged him with desertion but also with misbehavior before the en hmy signals that they believe that the evidence indicates it is a very serious offense, and whether or not there is a plea bargain will de depend on a lot of factors, one of which what will happen at the article 32 hearing, and how the evidence plays out. >> i want to ask can michael this bergdahl says in the five

years in captivity, he says that he tried to escape the taliban 12 times, and you think that the harsh treatment that he received there, will it help his sentence? >> well shgs i think that is relevant if he is indeed prosecuted and we are looking at the punishment that he should receive, and the attorney says that due to the punishment you know, that he has received time served, and that said, we need to the take into account the folks that i am confident died and the soldiers like lieutenant andrews died looking for him, and they don't get the opportunity to come home and he needs to be held accountable for the results of the action and secondly i want to add to the previous, to the other guest's point in the sense that yes, we absolutely should have a due process, and the army should go through that process, but when the president essentially takes a victory lap in the rose garden and the national

security adviser goes on television to say served with distinction distinction, it threw doubt in the process to be moving forward in a fair and balanced way. >> go ahead. >> i think that what the army has done here should dispel any suspicion that there is any improper influence coming from the high are levels, because it is a credible investigation, and if there is evidence that can establish that his misbehavior or the desertion led to the death of fellow service members, then that is a legitimate aggravating act at the court-martial, but it has to be proven. and we may feel that or believe that, but he is going to be accountable in a court of law, and it is going to be be the evidence that is going to dictate the outcome as it should be. >> thank you, both. when we come back the latest on

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we are back now with the breaking news of flight 9525 and the chilling news that "the new york times" is reporting that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit and tried to smash down the door. cnn's tom foreman is with the cnn edit inging manager. >> hey, don, we are here with peter gold, and tell us about this switch and what it is about. >> this is the device that controls the cockpit door. this the normal position you can access the door with a code from the outside and you can get in and out, if you have the correct code to get in. >> and so it is locked beut you can get in with the code. >> when it is flipped to the

locked position here you cannot get in. there is no way to get in, and enter the cockpit. >> that is going to throw a bolt in the door. >> this is a light that is going to big nited to show that it is lock and the crew knows they are safe, but the people on the outside can't get through. >> and we don't know what the normal procedure is in the plane whether it is left in unlocked or locked when somebody leaves the cockpit? >> this is hotly debated after 9/11 tom. how do we protect the crew and the aircraft from allowing 9/11 to be replicated. so maybe a key or the code to give to one of the cabin crew members, so somebody could get in. >> why didn't they do that? >> well, they felt as though no way to keep that procedure secret. >> one thing about, this when

you look at the wreckage out here and when you look at the pieces of the wheels and wings, will they be be able to in all of this find more information about what that the switch is doing, and the position of the door was in and whether it is locked and is that possible? >> well the most important part is the remnants of the dayta recorder, and then you could find the locked door to see if there is evidence to be discovered. >> you mentioned the data recorder and the voice recorder and will that tell you whether that is thrown? >> well, that is a great question. and given the age of the aircraft and likely retrofitted after 9/11 you know 2001 the flight recorder data may not record this action and they don't record everything.

nin the newer planes, i am sure they do, but i don't know fit was retrofitted to record this. >> so much more to be found out. >> we just don't know yet, and we will have to ask that question tomorrow. >> thank you, peter goelz. >> and now, joining me is on the phone is american airline pilot ko lshgs koleen pettit and peter goelz, and what is your assess there of what he said to tom foreman? >> well, there is a little difference there of locked position. it is a control switch that is sencentered position, and you are telling it to lock and then re returns back. so it is always in the center position and spring action so

it is pushed down to have a lock so it is not bumped lock and then you have to push it off of unlock so it is a fail-safe mechanism. >> okay. i want to dig into this, and talk to karlene about something, because it says that a senior person who heard the tape said that he described it as a calm conversation between the pilots between barcelona and dusseldorf and then one of the pilots left, and could not re-enter re-enter. he is knocking lightly outside, and cannot enter. he then knocks louder and there is never an answer and then you can hear him trying to snash the door down.

and i understand that you have been speaking to one of your colleagues cko lshgslene that there is not a two-person cockpit rule? >> right. there is one of my colleagues said that i have never heard that we should not leave the pilot alone in the cockpit. the focus is always not letting the wrong people in. he wanted to make it clear, and remain anonymous, but, you know if lufthansa is doing it and these are lufthansa pilots and gw is an affiliate company, and so the rule s ares are the same, and the simple knock to let me back in would make sense, and then the panic would make sense, because he was not let back in. >> and we are working with

lufthansa to get clarification of that, and thank you, karlene. >> and jim tilman does that surprise you? >> yes, that is surprising, because it prevents a situation like this a pilot in the cockpit by himself who may have a medical problem or something else. the protocol is not only when a pilot has to go out, not only another person coming into the cockpit, you donned the oxygen mask to take care of any problem that could happen. >> and paul you are listening to what is happening with the recording, and they will know from the recording if there is something nefarious if something is going on? >> well, they will know certainly which of the pilots said that he would leave, and in fact, exited the cockpit, and we will also will be able to hear the breathing of the remaining

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development on flight 9525, reports of evidence from the plane's voice recorder that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit just before the plane crashed. back now with pilot karlene pettit on the phone, and paul ginsberg who is a audio expert and glad to have you here and david soucie and don tilman. and what did you think about this? >> well, it is not a scenario that we talked about before, and we had ruled it out quickly, because of the fact that it was a smooth and controlled descent, and ever there was a pilot suicide before it is a quick and abrupt drop and some speculation at first on one of them on the egypt air, because it was movement and then dropped, but nonetheless when you decide to kill yourself as a pilot, it was abrupt and it was

nothing like this. >> and so that is just something that it could be -- >> yes, lots por investigation. sgr but a number of the outlets are reporting this tonight, and it is information that is just coming n and in the beginning, you will get information that is not necessarily on target, and so they are not reporting that it is a suicide, but it could be a medical emergency in the cob pith, and we don't know. and i want to ask jim tilman, because we had the passionate debate about the cameras in the cockpit in m-370, and does it renew the debate? >> yes, in the minds of people, it will make a difference, but it won't make a difference in the outcome of the situation. from the pilot's point of view it is not just the inconvenience or intrusion, it is just unnecessary. so many things that are much more important that we need to spend money for.

>> and wouldn't it give us the idea of what would have happened and don't we want as much information as possible jim? >> yes and there are other ways to get that information. i mean, i'm not interested in knowing whether or not the pilot is pick ging the nose. and photographer is difficult thing to manage. and in a dark cockpit at night, how do you have enough light to know what you are looking at, and we don't have dome lights on. >> and this is daytime, and the technology is amazing. and on this phone, ki shoot in the dark on the iphone, and karlene, do you agree with jim tilman? >> i agree with him, we don't need the cameras in the cob pith, and don the, if somebody is going to be doing something up there don, wouldn't you just put your coat over it or hat over it? a good use for a hat. so many ways that we could use the money. pump it into the pilot training

if anything, and like we could use that money, and millions of dollars, and spend of the hours of flights airborne right now, and the expense to know what happened. it is not going to prevent anything from happen inging. if they could prevent something from happening absolutely but it cannot prevent anything from happening, so keep it out of the cockpit, and use it with the money bet erter spent for the better security, and the better training and beef up the system to make it better. >> and to layperson, it is why not? they are everywhere on the el va elevators and everywhere, and the pilots are resistant to that. >> and i like that jim said and karlene, to spend the money elsewhere, and stream it back rather than to the black box, because it feels like in

archaeology to look for them and this is where it does prevent the accident, because you have to wait for a year or two to have something conclusive to take to the regulatory authority to make a regulation, a and then you will then get lucky with a regulation. >> and the e people in the back have potentially hundreds of cameras, and it surprises me every time that we are here and talking about this technology that it is archaic and it is time to update it right? regardless of the camera situation, it is time to update? >> and yes hooking up the door latch and the door entry switch to the flight data recorder that we did find out if the pilot in the seat try to prevent something. >> and you are chasing the tail here, because this sis the regulatory tail chasing here. because when somebody happens, you respond with a regulatory the change and it is not always

the best answer, because eventually you will lose the o other thing, and you will spend the money for the things that are not the most important things for the safety and end up reacting. >> and now, we will talk about the reaction of a town which is mourn ging the lives of 16 school students.

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150 people lost their live ss aboard 9525. and 16 of them "school students. fred pleitgen has more. >> reporter: overwhelmed by pain and sorrow, and many of them coming to the makeshift memorial at the joseph koenig school are in tears mourn ging the loss of 16 students, and two teachers. philipa and her mother were close to all of the student ss. >> i knew all of them, and they were in my grade and two of them i was very close. and yeah there was one good friend of me and also we already planned things for the

future. and what we were going to do when they returned from the trip. >> reporter: the school has now identified the students and the teachers killed and publishing the death notice on the website and leaving many of the young people fighting the agony in the town. >> it is important to be with them, so that everyone can support each other and say that everything is going to be fine somehow, although nobody thinks so. >> reporter: people here say that they were devastated when they heard that flight 9525 crashed and saw the impact of the site in france. emergency psychological counselors counselors are here all of the time providing help to those who need it. as the town mourns and grieve and people come here to the sea of flowers and candles, the people here are also demanding answers, and how can it be that so many of the loved ones were take zone violently as they were

returning from their school trip. but for now, the officials are asking for patience as the investigation continues. the city hall has been turned into a crisis center and the mayor in charge of the crisis center clearly moved be by the events. >> i have been here and i can talk with the people, and with the parents, and the brothers and the sisters, and yeah and the only thing i can do is to be be here. >> reporter: back at the joseph koenig school that help is appreciated, but it is clearly going to take more time for the people of this town to overcome the disaster that has hit their commune community. fred pleitgen, germany. >> it is a certainly tragedy for the families and joining me with recourse is former trial

attorney for the faa and tagain david soucie as well. how does this change things for the families, mark? >> well, thank you, don. the most important thing to realize right now, don, is the most valuable thing for the families is information. from the legal perspective in terms of the families, each passenger there is going to have a right under the ticket which is really a contract to recover whatever provable damages they are able to the establish. i am sure that lufthansa is going to step up to do the right thing as it relates to the families. in terms of the information that is seeming to come to light or at least reported by the time's and given the fact that the magnitude, the scope of damages recovered against the airline is

controlled by international agreement, it is likely not to have any effect. one would immediately -- >> so it is not going to give them a stronger legal case? >> in many respects all respects they don't need a stronger legal case, because the contract is to deliver pas sensenger from point a to point b safely and happen. the international agreement is to prevent punitive damages. but emotion ally, it is a stronger case and in terms of the measurable legal damages, it won't have any effect. >> does it change the relationship of the family and the airlines, because somebody was locked out of the cockpit? >> i don't think it does. what we are goging into is the

criminal realm. i'm not a lawyer. >> or the negligence, right? >> well, i suppose, but you would have to prove that they knew it was a risk before it happened, and that might be hafrd to do. >> mark if it is a criminal case, who has the jurisdiction here? >> well, that is interesting, because unlike the united states don, in many accident investigation conducted in foreign countries, and true with france as well the criminal authorities are quite active and in this particular incident it is the french criminal authorities who would take the lead on it. we have seen it in the concord accident there with were criminal proceedings, and it is not at all unusual outside of the united states an accident in this way. >> do you believe they have handled it in the right way,

david? >> yes shgs, i do. >> i agree with david. they have done an incredible job, and they have used social media in a very intelligent way. >> thank you, both.

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thing, but it's not only about technology but shifting our mindset from diagnosis looking back at what happened and looking at prognosis and technology can help us do that. >> thank you, david sousi. our live coverage continues now with john vause and zain asher in atlanta. thank you, don. hello, everybody. two breaking stories from france and yemen. this is cnn newsroom. i'm john vause. >> and i'm zain asher. the cockpit voice recorder from flight 9525 is being analyzed and it reportedly holds a very big clue as to why the plane may have crashed into the french alps. how one of the pilots was reportedly locked out of the cockpit. saudi arabia launches military operations in yemen, and houthi rebels are firing back as concerns grow about the whereabouts of yemen's president. but first, the major clue in the crash of flight