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hundreds attending the burial at a cathedral after his remains were found under a parking lot, and that is 300 years after they were buried. this is cnn breaking news. this is cnn tonight, and i'm don lemon. the news is unthinkable, a copiet lot deliberately smashing a plane into the mountain and killing himself and everyone on board board, men, women, and children, and the youngest a 7-month-boy, and unthinkable, really, but that is what the prosecutors say that andreas lubitz did. was it terror? cold-blooded mass murder? something else? we will bring you up to date of what we know. tonight, police are searching his apartment for clues of what was going on in his mind. and we have a brand new photo of the co-pilot running a half
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marathon in 2013 and now we are learning that the airplane was reprogrammed and more evidence that it was no accident. we have c nshgs nshgsnn reporters life all over the world to bring us the latest information and nic robertson is in the mountains, and diana magnate is at the home of the co-pilot, and we have stephanie e elam in victorville, california at the airport where the maintenance work is done on the airbus and richard quest here with me in new york. and sara sidner as well. and so richard, we had information that the pilot was locked out of the cabin and now we know that he was, and that the co-pilot brought this plane down. why are they so sure? >> because they have listened to the voice recorder, and it is clear. they can hear the captain leaving the cockpit after a
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conversation and hear him banging to get back in again, and they can hear the cockpit, the co-pilot doing nothing. the word we heard again and again today, don, he was silent. no word ss, and nothing was said just quiet breathing. so he ignored all of the banging, and then we hear the screams, and we have heard from the cockpit voice recorder about the controls but then another piece of the jigsaw that we heard from the atsb transponder that we know that the autopilot was selected to go from 38,000 feet to 100 feet, and that is the command that was in the words of the french prosecutor that is the dialed in descent. put that together and there are very, very few options it could be. >> this is no longer a leaked source, bu source, but it is from the airline and the investigator? >> this is not from the investigator but from another source ift not better the
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prosecutor the man who has the job of investigating the question of voluntary or involuntary manslaughter. >> richard, standby, because i want to bring in nic robertson who is live in the french alps where it is very early in the morning there, nic, and what this is the latest from the french investigator? >> well, they have managed to retrieve some of the victims, and some of the remains of the victims, and retrieve some of the parts of the aircraft itself. we saw today one of the helicopters pulling off from the steep mountainside below where were slung what appeared to be a piece of the aircraft, and that recovery effort has begun, but we understand it is going to be very slow. the access is difficult, and the prosecutor has also said that the rekof rie recovery of the vicktims will be a difficult prospect and they will have to collect
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piece by piece from the hillside and several weeks before the bodies will be repatriated with the families don. >> and the families have arrived, nic. what are they doing or seeing now? now? >> the phrenfrench authorities have really tried to get them as close as they can to where the crash took place so they were taken to a field which was about two or three miles a waiway from the steep ravine where the helicopters were over them flying at times to get this to drop the recovery teams, and so that the families were able to see the terrain, and see the rugged mountains, and see the high peaks, but also a memorial service for them, and a memorial plaque were there with all of the names of the victims there, and all of the families there to read the plaque of the name of the loved one.
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there was also a church service there later on in the afternoon for them. it has been very somber and solemn and the french authorities want to give the french families as much dig ninity and help as they can for this very difficult time as they k don. >> and i want to bring in the panel of experts here, and i want to go to dan duke who is a retir retired pilot, and also dan david soucie and also talking about what richard and i talked about with the decline down to 100 feet and is this planned in advance or something that you come up with on the flight or is this a planned event? >> well, this is something that he does every day and he knows about. and planned in event and it is not like he brought a tool or
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something to be there to execute it. the only question comes up is why did the pilot leave at that time? it is fairly routine to get a pilot to get up, and that is the best time to get up is halfway through. i don't see that it had to be preplanned although, i am certain that it had gone through his mind hundreds of times before he had done this to have gone for eight or nine minutes to have done that. >> why are you so certain? >> because of the fact that it had to have, and it is not something that is off of the whim, and then you have all nine minutes to second guess it and realize that many lives behind you, and you have all of that minutes to retract that thought, so clearly, he was determined and he had desire to crash that airplane. >> and i want to look at the photo, and these are the photo showing the pas sensenger's perspective of the pilot pounding on the door? because we heard the screams, and we were told right at the end before it crashed upon impact and were they able to
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see it. is dan duke there? >> yes, i am don. yes. i would assume that they could see it. there wouldn't be anything blocking the view up the aisle, because it is right at the end of the aisle and they could also be looking out the airplane and getting closer and closer to the mountain, and i understand that the visibility is good. just a terrible tragedy, that they had no power, and nobody in the airplane had no ability to overcome. >> and you can see the mountains rising up close to you. >> and where it landed the mountains would have been above you at one point before you had im impact. >> and the question is resistance, and we have been talking about this a lot from the pilot, and people in the industry to tauklk about video or streaming video on the plane, and it seems that we rare coming to the point where it is needed, no? >> yes, we are. and at least it is time to re-examine it and the whole culture has changed from the time it is seriously considered. now we have got technology that
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is more apt for it. compression for the video can be streamed and a lot more now. >> and don't be under any illusion that the video and the cockpit would have prevented this. >> well we wouldn't have been sitting here trying to figure out exactly what happened, because you would know. >> well, all of the things are accident investigation tools, and they are not mitigating or prevention, but they are der ternts -- deterrents and investigation -- if you want to stop speeding on the highway, you put a cop car there and slow people down but you don't have to write the tickets. >> and in the physical barrier there, and in the case of the video, you are god forbid take the aircraft into the ground, and whoever is watching back at base to record it. >> that is prevention and i'm talking about the deterrent, and someone who is going to be thinking it, you put a padlock
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on the shed, because you want to keep the honest people honest, but if a criminal wants to get in there, they are going to be getting in there. >> and dan? >> i have mixed feelings about it. i don't think that if he is intent on crashing the airplane having a video on or off of him will have any bearing on what he does. maybe it is a good accident investigation tool, but so is the voice recorder and the flight data recorder and we will know everything that we need to know without having a video of unfortunately looking at the mountains getting bigger in the windshield. >> i want everyone to the stand by and look at this, because this is the ceo of lufthansa, the parent company of german wings, and he spoke to fredrick pleitgen in a cnn worldwide exclusive, and this is what he says about the co-pilot and the state of mind. >> well the pilot has passed all of the tests, all of the medical exams, and we have at lufthansa the reporting system
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where crew can report without being punished their own problems or can report of problems of others without any kind of punishment, and it has not been used in either of this case and all of the safety nets that we are so proud of in this case have not worked in this case. >> the interview we will have that for you, and also unanswered questions here. and now that we have evidence that the unthinkable can happen and what about the mystery of the malaysian flight 370, and we want to know what you think, and make sure you use the # #germanwingsqs.
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investigators are digging into the background of andreas lubitz and they have look ded into the apartment in dusseldorf and carrying out boxes and descended on his apparents as well. that is where diana magnate is tonight. >> reporter: this is where his parents lived, and nouw it is shuttered and guarded by police. investigators are the only ones granted access. we were told that the grandparents lived in this nearby house, but they are unwilling to speak p about the man french prosecutors believe may have deliberately crashed
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flight 9525. i asked if they are relatives. no, thank god, they say, we are not getting into the police car. we are trying to get away. but gliding was a clearly a passion for young lubitz. between the age of 12 and 14 he was a fixture here outside of the town where a senior member described him as a member who was committed to following his dream. a normal young person full p of energy, and what can i say, he had a bright future and made his hobby into a job and what more can you hope to achieve. he said that he had 630 hours of flight time behind him and trained at the lufthansa academy, and then he told journalists ta there had clearly been some kind of a break. >> translator: there was an interruption with the regard to
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the training and after then the candidate managed to go through, and he continued the training. he then also passed all medical tests, all flight examinations and all checks. and whether that break holds the key to that horror we don't know the psychological state at the time it went down but simply silent but breathing as the pilot knocked desperately on the cockpit door. >> thank you diana. he did some of the training in the united states in goodyear, arizona, and sara sidner is there. what do you know about the training there in arizona. >> don, you know, the ceo and the spokesperson for lufthansa did konconfirm to us that indeed the german wings' co-pilot did train here in arizona, and we we
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were asking for how long, and according to the spokesperson about six months, because that is what is required for him to get the license. and you can see that this is the lufthansa training center, and the wings and the tail of the plane have insignia on them and there are flags at half-staff and the lufthansa flag and the klm flag and all of those in deaf deference to the people who lost their lives. you might think arizona, and why would someone from germany come here. there are lots and lots of people from around the world who train their pilots here partly because of the amazing weather that you can basically train all year long here and so you don't have to take a day off or so because of the bad or the inclement weather, and space here shgs and there are a lot of schools for pilots to train. and also at some point the co co-pilot did stop the training. that is a question that is being looked into by authorities.
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why did he stop the training? what was it that stopped him. then he came back according to the ceo and finished the training and passed all of the test and as the ceo said 100% ready to be a pilot, so questions that might explain what happen and what the investigators said that he did with this plane crashing it into the alps, but he came here to america, and here for at least six months to be be able to get that license, don. >> and you will continue to dig, sara sidner, in arizona where he received the training. and i want to bring in jim brokaw who lost his father and stepmother when the plane crashed in i jiptegypt 9999. and thank you for joining us this evening. >> i am fine. thank you. >> and it is just unimaginable that a pilot would intentionally
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crash a plane, and so what are your thoughts on this since you have seen it before? >> well first of all, the very experience of losing somebody in an air disaster is by itself unspeakable. there just are not any words to convey the total disorientation and the loss of your bearings that happens. and then to have the, this horrific event be the result of someone's conscious decision is just beyond truly pe yond comprehension, and i could not accept it until i looked carefully at the information that came from the ntsb that that synchronized the flight data recorder with the cockpit voice recorder in our case, which brings me to another what i think is crucial here. we only have the cockpit voice
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recorder and from what i understand the memory card from the flight data recorder is still missing. >> krek. >> so until we have that huge kor corpus of evidence, it may be premature to draw any firm conclusions as to what happened. i concur the evidence that we have seems quite damning. >> and i want to talk to you a little bit about this and bring in david and richard in here, because when it comes to egyptair 990, there were two investigations that it was a pilot and suicide effort. >> and one said it was a -- >> well, the other said it was a mechanical failure. >> and what do i think?
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well, i am firmly convinced that the egyptians understand that it was a deliberate act by the first officer. i don't think that there is any real doubt about it. >> richard? >> jim, when you saw today as you may have seen the families they went to france tandand the french put on a moving service, and you were not able to get close, because the water made it difficult for you, and in a similar way perhaps. >> and similar, indeed, because ours was 60 nautical miles off of nantucket, and it was six months before the sea conditions allowed the ntsb and others to get ships capable of recovering remains from the ocean bottom
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out there. and even with the one-year memorial, and it was not practical, and people wanted to go out there to be in the place are where the loved ones were taken, but it was really, really quite remote. but i can tell you -- >> did you ever get any expla explanation of what might drive a pilot to do this, because the faa is calling it assisted pilot suicide when something like this happens? >> well yeah in our case there was, the guy, well in our case the first officer was really a fairly flaky individual close to retirement and what is believed to have happened is that the chief pilot, and well, and was apparently accused of some
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really flagrant inproemproprietyimproprietys in new york and the chief pilot was unexpectedly on the airplane and it is surmised that the two had a kon confrontation. and that the first officer was told that he would face the music, meaning that he would be fired on return to cairo at the age of 60 just before receiving his pension and so forth. i could not believe it when i heard it because why would you put somebody back in a position of responsibility, however, i did speak with the woman who was the brother of the chief pilot who said that's the way things work at egyptair. >> it is surprising, david, that they would put somebody back into this, and he is talking
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about the pilot here, and the first officer, might we find outt more about the background of this co-pilot and it is likely that we will find something that gives us a clue as to what and why he did this? >> well, we will find out something about this person or the personality of what was going on. >> he was obviously good at hiding the feelings, and he was intelligent person and successful and went on calmly as it was happening, and very controlled. he was very good at hiding his true self, but they will find it. >> and a brief word of what the families are facing at this point. >> please. >> because it is not, it is not simply the emotional turmoil which as i say is literally unspeakable, but are there are severe economic dislocations as well. in our situation there were
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people who had to sell their parents' homes to do within weeks to raise money for estate taxes, and people who had to relocate from one place to another all because the airline was not able or willing to make substantial immediate cash advances to people. i don't know what is going on in this case, but i'd be immensely grateful to you if you could simply find out how exact lyly the airline is treating the passengers. >> and richard quest is here. >> i can be very brief on this, jim. lufthansa today has made it quite clear that substantial interim payment hs will be-- payments will be made and accommodations and those who do
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not have the money to go to france, their flights, and the accommodations will be paid as well. so yes, carsten spohr the ceo has said that payments are in the works. >> well, that is immensely gratifying to hear and the other thing that i do want to say is that i am gratified and very gratified to have this sense that this event will not be politicized the way that ours was. the most distressing thing about the egyptair di sassaster was the total inability of the egyptian state and many of its citizens to accept the only conclusion to reasonably with be drawn from the evidence. >> all right. jim, thank you. that has to be the last word but we appreciate your joining us on cnn. >> thank you, and it p is my
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lufthansa says it screens in the hiring process, but is that truly accurate? matthew wall and juliet kayem and david soucie and so david, how difficult is it to predict
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mental illness. >> it is very difficult to do. and look at the pentagon, it is very difficult to predict what service members will kill themselves themselves. they are miserable at it. >> and is it looking any dif different in the hindsight? there were concerns of the pilot's actions in that case as well? >> well, there is a similarity in the two crashes in that it appears in the last moments of flight both of the airplanes were controlled by the autopilot meaning that in mh-370 there were somebody who flew in the wave points in the three dimensional points of space that are meaningful only to the aviators and sailed off to the sunset, and in that case it looked like the auto pilot was dumped way off where nobody would find it and in this way, it is in koncontrolled rate of speed into the ground on auto pilot, and that is the kind of thing to do and you can be living to do it while it
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happened or dead while it happened. >> and dan, lufthansa does not have any standard protocol for a psychological testing for pilots once they are hired. you are a pilot, and what kind of screening were you given or did you have nin your career? >> well, i have had a couple of careers, but before i got hired by united we had intensive e evaluations, i guess. but the psychological ability to be a pilot is accumulation of an accumulation of the experience. you build on that experience year after year after year, and i think that similarly to the kid who picks up a gun and goes into the school to shoot people it is an unune predictable event that you are talking about right now. the experiences that we have had tell the us when something is going to go wrong with the partner or the teammate. we can and it is a pretty
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intimate environment, and you are task oriented and goal oriented all of the time and long periods of time where you sit and converse and get to know the person, and you canal tell at least i feel like i could tell if somebody was having a problem. and there are systems, and measures and things that we can do to get help for that person if they really needed it. >> and juliette kayyem you are shaking your head? >> well, this is the similar dilemma of the military and what matthew was saying that the capability of predicting violent behavior and suicidal behavior is very hard for the big institutions whether it is the military or the big airline, and the irony of the suicides of military are that suicides are of men who have not deployed and the stresses they are under are manifested and not because of the wars, and for us to be because of the triggering warning of the airline and the
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coe pilot is that institutions are bad at it. >> and you are responsible for so many people and it is a huge responsibility and allen, is it the best way to do it and relying on the self-upon or thing to track mental health? >> well, of course when you have hired and screen and going through the extensive interview process, and i have happen ded to have gone through the school there in phoenix back in 1975 and i was impressed by several things. first of all the selection raiche ratio, and they told me that there were over 100 applicants for every lufthansa student pilot they akccepted. i can remember walking in the halls and just for example a student pilot started to speak german and the instructor said that you do not speak german here. they are are trying to teach them to konconverse only in english, because it is the international english language and i asked if they have prob
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problems with the students, and he said, yes we had to because they have passes to go back and they had girlfriends, and so they were very regimented so i suspect that the key of him dropping out may have been a warning sign that was not picked up, and obviously, i am speculating that it may have been a some kind of the medical issue, but it does happen. and one of the things that i would say, don, you know i came from the ntsb and went to work for the medical office and when i arrived the psychiatrist there handed me what he called the suicide file, and what are you talking about, because i had never personally investigated a suicide, and he said mainly general aviation pilots and the last 30 years of data on all suicides that had been occurring in the country. so they do happen. they are extremely rare and
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normally a general aviation pilot. the airline pilot suicides are extremely rare and for an airline pilot to take a group of people with him this is maliciously, this is almost unheard of and happens every five years or so. >> but it is disturbing there is a file the for it. and we are thrilled to have jim diehl to be here. and you are hearing that there is a file for people with possible suicide issues here within the ntsb? >> well, get bli, there is no black box for what is going on in someone's head. i would prefer to focus on what we do know. we have is had five to eight incidents like this since the
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egyptair accident. and you know, most of them have occurred when the individual was left alone in the cockpit. we spent a great deal of time and effort after 9/11 focused on threats outside of the cockpit and the cockpit door being one of them. i think that now we need to focus particularly in memory of these 149 people who have lost their lives on threats inside of the cockpit, and what we can do to ensure that to the best that we can do something like this doesn't occur again. >> yeah. bringing into the table here, and matthew, if you want to weigh in as well and i see you shaking your head in agreement here and what is going on? >> well i agree with what jim who has huge experience in this area has said. we need to focus, but what do you do about it? i mean you have the second
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person in the cockpit, and that is one particular regime that you can introduce, but fundamentally, you have a contradiction of the sources when you are trying to have the policy to stop people getting n and now ju to worry about the person on the other side of the door. and so jim, what do you actually do about it? >> jim, quick answer and we will pick it up on the other side of the break this is. >> well of course my answer and response on that has been cameras in the cockpit, and that would be a deterrent. we are talking about right now putting cameras on the police officers. and so -- >> why are people in the industry so opposed to cameras in the cockpit which makes complete sense to most people? >> i think it is a union issue for the pilots. i think that there are a lot of pilots who would agree with the issue. >> i don't see it as a deterrent. >> it is a deterrent, but not a fix. >> and we will continue this
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back with the panel, and we are talking about cameras in the cockpit, and that is a food fight waiting to happen. >> it shouldn't b and it must be the most obvious thing, because we put the trust of aulll of the pilots and everyone who has significant responsibility is often on camera and it is a union issue, and it is ridiculous and it is not going to deter everyone, and everything but we owe it to every passenger who is on a airplane that we know what is going on in the cockpit. >> and i want to do this and i want you to weigh in and i want to the bring in stephanie e elam who is at a logistics airport to demonstrate the cockpit door, and she has retired pilot ross amer with her, and so give us a demonstration similar to the german wipgs door, and -- german germanwings door and show us
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what you are talking about. >> well, this has a peephole and you can see who is on the other side, and when you open it up here, you will see when we meet up with captain here, how fortified this is. >> well, it is fortified, because it was tested with a grenade and ill still did not open. >> and still didn't open. and when we have cameras here, you can feel that it is heavy. >> absolutely. >> and tell me about the deadbolt up here, because why is that important? >> well that deadbolt once it has gone in there is no way to open it up from the outside. >> no matter what? >> no matter what and if the pilot is inside and he or she has operated this deadbolt, what do you have to do? >> you have to land and open up the windows, because the deadbolt will open that up unless you the key but the pilots do not carry the key anymore. >> and so if you look at the door there is no way to
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compromise it but there is a key pad and tell us about that. >> well the pilots are issued with a code which changes from time to time, and i can't tell you how far, and the pilot will put the code in, and he has 30 seconds to ep ter the cockpit, and if that 30 seconds lapses he can no longer get in and that door is closed completely. >> and by matthew wald, and stephanie standby. >> and don, one last thing about the door. this door as far as you can earn concerned, it worked the way it is supposed to. >> and the way it is designed except for lufthansa it kept the good guy out. >> and that is the thing that we know about the door, don. >> and so matthew walld, you know of a way to fix it? >> yes, a different technical fix which is that the airplane has gps on it, and the airplane has a database of all of the mountains in the world, and you
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could set it up so that if you program it to fly into the mountain, it will alert you or program it to get too low, and the system knows that it too low and there is no airport, it can alert you. and airbus does it one way, and boeing does it another, and how much do you want to trust the machine or the people at the controls and you can lean to trust the machine more and refuse permission to fly into the mountain. >> all right. captain aimer, how do you feel about that? >> well they have thought about it, and worked on that, and there is certain criteria in the more modern airplane like the latest triple 7 and the 887 which is similar to what you are saying, that pit does it, but they don't want to take the control from the pilot. that is boeing's way, but airbus this differently, and they trust the machine more. >> right. >> it seems like it, that it
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seem s that seems that the preventative procedures in place worked too well. >> well, it is interest nag the boeing versus the airbus argument. boeing if it ain't a boweing, i ain't going. >> and i want to ask captain aimer this as a pilot, what do you want to see how it is improving, and we have heard how matthew wald said it could be improved but what are you thinking? >> elwell, the low cost carriers sprouting up all over the world and especially in europe, and i keep hearing lufthansa and this airline has nothing to do with the lufthansa, and it is an al alter ego, and they have their own management and they hire low-time pilots like this young fellow that was not vetted. we don't do that in the u.s. >> and so my question is when it
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comes to the cockpit door, and the safety precaution, and i have 30 second here and if you can tell me how you think that it can be improved. >> well, if you make it easy to get in then you are defeating the purpose that it was designed. there is a reason for all of this security with the door that no one from the outside can open it if there's no reason for them to do so. it is a very thin balance. i don't know what the answer is. but perhaps the engineers will come up with something. >> that is the point, and let me thank you, stephanie elam and best reporting of the evening and thank you for the demonstration, and helpful or the the viewer and captain aimer here. >> i want to the put it in perspective, because it is a tragedy. it is a rare tragedy. since 9/11 when we secured the cockpit door there has been no instance in which a passenger has gotten into the cockpit.
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that is great news. we certainly know from the world we live in there are a lot of people who have thought about it, but they are deterred by it so we have to balance this. and there are things that we can do on the cockpit and the psychology of the pilots, but the idea that this instance should change the way we think of aviation security i'm not sure that we are there yet. >> and so thank you to stephanie and captain aimer there. people with type 2 diabetes come from all walks of life. if you have high blood sugar ask your doctor about farxiga. it's a different kind of medicine that works by removing some sugar from your body. along with diet and exercise farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes.
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back now live with the panel where we are talking about improving the technology of the cockpit door, and who can and cannot get in and out. and richard quest? >> the last comment about germanwings that they are absolutely a fundamental part of lufthansa, and not only it is a fundamental part but a major part of the strategy, and the fact that it is an offshoot at the moment, german wings is
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positively a part of lufthansa. >> and so, stephanie elam, we heard of who can and cannot be able to open the doors, how can the procedure be improved? >> well, don, if if you can asking me it did what it is to do. it is designed to prevent unauthorized entry, and since we have not had a hijacking caused by unauthorized entry into the cobckpit cockpit. so if you want to prevent that you have to fix the problem which is caused by inexperience. and so that pilot did not have enough experience for people to get to know him, and for him to have a sound basis for solving the stress problems, and that is a good way to solve the problem. >> but, jim, the captain did have and he was authorized and he couldn't.
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>> jim hall? >> the conversation about suicide if the facts are correct, this is the deliberate murder of 149 people and the evidence and particularly the evidence of having a camera is important. cameras would have helped us on the 9/11, and they would have helped us on egyptair and they would have helped us on silkair, and helped us on the accident in ni niambia and so i have not seen any thaefd camera would be a deterrent, and having two people in a cockpit appears to be a deterrent, and so, but, in terms of this the investigation, this sis now a criminal investigation. i am sure that the french will
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complete as we have in similar circumstances their responsibilities. >> and that has to be the last word. >> make no mistake this is the murder of 149 people. >> thank you, jim hall. thank you, everyone. stand by, and the team is going to stand by to the answer all of the questions about 9525 and tweet us using the #germanwingsqs. stay with us there is a lot more to come right here on cnn. every day, our teams collaborate around the world to actively uncover, discuss and debate investment opportunities. which leads to better decisions for our clients. it's a uniquely collaborative approach you won't find anywhere else. put our global active management expertise to work for you. mfs. there is no expertise without collaboration.
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this is cnn breaking news. >> 1. 1:00 p.m. east coast, and 4:00 a.m. in the french alps and the investigation is deepening. and now we know that the crash was a crime. we know that the co-pilot andreas lubitz crashed the plane into the alps and we know that the plane's altitude was changed from 38,000 feet to 100 feet. and why did it happen? the president of lufthansa told our cnn reporter