focusing on whether a 27-year-old andreas lubitz was mentally ill, and clues he was planning not just to take his own life but to cowardly take so many innocent lives with him. >> we're learning more about what went on inside the cockpit. lubitz locked the door and reprogrammed the plane's auto pilot after the pilot stepped out. this as some airlines around the world changed their protocols because of this senseless tragedy. cnn has the story covered the way only we can. we give with frederick pleitgen live in cologne, germany. >> a lot of information coming out after yesterday, when we found out that andreas lubitz did in fact apparently deliberately steer the aircraft into the mountains. we were able to speak to the ceo of the parent company of germanwings, of lufthansa. he said the airline is shocked and the airline is trying to get to the bottom of what happened. they say they believe they had no indication he might have had

any sort of mental issues. let's have a look at how the investigation is unfolding. investigators say they found what may be evidence while combing through 27-year-old co-pilot andreas lubitz' home. police say they took several objects and papers possible clues as to why the german national deliberately crashed flight 9525 into the french alps. audio from the aircraft's mangled cockpit voice recorder revealing the chilling steps lubitz took to kill all 150 on board. 30 minutes into the flight from barcelona, the captain steps out of the cockpit once the plane hit cruising altitude. presumably to use the rest room. lubitz now alone with the door locked reprograms the auto pilot from 30,000 feet to 100 feet. sending the jetliner straight toward the alps. the pilot heard on the recording, first knocking, then banging on the cockpit door. lubitz didn't utter a word

investigators say and was breathing normally. passengers only heard on the recording during the final minutes of the crash, screaming. lufthansa's ceo said lubitz had more than 600 hours of flight experience and showed no signs of mental instability. >> the pilot had passed all his tests, all his medical exams and all the safety net we are so proud of here have not worked in this case. >> until the last moments, lubitz seemed to live a normal life. he ran a fast half-marathon, liked nightclubs popular music and there are reports he may have had a girlfriend. he was accepted into lufthansa's pilot training program in 2008 training in germany and phoenix, arizona, he joined germanwings in september 2013 with only one flag on his resumé. lufthansa's ceo says there was an interruption during his training said to have lasted several months something the airlines says is not uncommon. lubitz a member of a flight

club near his home. he was a lot of fun, says one member he was just another boy like so many others here. >> and of course investigators are now spending their time scanning lubitz' background. one thing that of course is invaluable to them is the documents that they found inside those two places where lubitz was staying. we have learned this morning that all those documents are going to be turned over to the french prosecutor apparently as we speak right now. there are french police officers on their way from marseille to here in germany, to pick those documents up and bring them back for the investigation. chris? >> fred so many affected by the acts of one man, we'll check back with you. the co-pilot's home town in shock over the nurse that he has the blood of 149 innocents on his hands. many saying he was a normal guy as you heard and certainly not a mass murderer. but authorities say that's not the case any more. cnn's rosie thompkins is there in montabaur, germany, his hometown.

rosie, what do we know? >> as you can see, global media gathered outside what until last week until the last few days was just a normal home in germany. and today, the focus of global scrutiny as people search for answers as to why this young man who grew up here andreas lubitz grew up here with his parents, why he would do such a thing. the local community in shock as you say. they cannot understand it. people that knew him by all accounts described him as a normal young man, polite friendly. he had friends at the local flying school. he said he was so excited since he was a teenager about becoming a pilot. he was realizing those dreams now. everybody just searching for clues, any clues, as to why he would have done that. we have had these reports that he took a break in his training and some reports saying there may have been some kind of breakdown there. but no confirmation about that. the airline only able at this time to confirm he took that break. residents in shock and expressing some sympathy for the family here who are not only dealing with the terrible loss

of their family member like others but also the incredibly shocking news that it was their son that it appears deliberately plunged this aircraft to death with all these people on board. >> okay our thanks for that look. the grief-stricken families of flight 9525 have been flown to france by the airline to attend a memorial service near the crash site. this as the task of recovering remains and debris has been hampered by weather conditions. cnn's nic robertson is nearby in the french alps with more. >> yeah good morning, michaela. it is very windy here this morning, but the helicopters are still flying every couple of minutes, a helicopter goes over our heads into the mountains as part of the recovery effort. we've seen the recovery teams preparing to get on more helicopters, they have backpacks on ropes and harnesses with them. the families who came here yesterday and the families who will come today, yesterday they attended a memorial service. it was as close as the french

authorities could get them to the crash site. the french authorities really going out of their way to try to help the families with their grief. help with the shock of the knowledge that they were intentionally killed by the co-pilot. but one father saying more important to look at their whole lives than the last few minutes. this is what he said. >> i would encourage them to not focus on those last ten minutes of the final crash. i'd like to encourage them to think about the wonderful years that they have enjoyed life together. those wonderful moments, happy moments with the family. with friends. >> the recovery teams are bringing pieces of aircraft and recovering some of the bodies from the crash site. but it is expected to take a long time. if the wind increases, then that could affect the operations today. and really that's the major concern right now.

to accelerate the recovery as fast as they can. that is what we're seeing a lot of helicopters passing overhead this morning, alisyn. >> nic, keep us posted on how it's going. thank you. let's turn now to david soucie 0 our cnn safety analyst and former faa safety inspector and tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director. tom i want to start with you, investigators went to the co-pilot's home in germany. they say they found something quote significant. but they wouldn't say what it was. only that it was not a suicide note. do you have any information on what exactly they've unearthed or what they would be looking for there at his house? >> i don't have any information about that alisyn. but obviously they would be looking for anything that indicates he's you know his mental frame of mind. does he have does he belong to some extremist group of any kind. does he have financial problems does he have any other personal

problems that may have affected his mental state and caused him to want to take his life and take 149 other innocent people with him. so documents, computer records, any of that that they can find that helps. and apparently they must have found something because they're having it transported to the prosecutor in marseille. >> david there are reports in german media that the pilot was suffering from depression. and maybe in fact he had had a previous bout of depression that interrupted some of his pilot training. all of this is speculation, no one has confirmed it. do pilots routinely undergo psychological testing? >> not routinely. that's couple of things they do however. what they do it's a fit for departure or a fit for duty exam basically that you take before you get everything for every single flight. the idea is to make the pilot aware and cognizant of this environment of himself before he actually says i'm going to take the responsibility of flying this airplane. >> what's that look like. >> a check box. >> you get some paperwork and

you say -- >> it's on the computer. and you check it. there are some airlines that you do have a piece of paper, you sign it and say, i'm fit for duty. >> it's self-reporting. >> yes. >> what about when they're going through training? before they become pilots is there some sort of a psychological examination? >> it's a psychological test. you're being pushed to the limits as far as what you can and cannot do. you're put in simulators constantly grilled. like a very intense college where you're going through these things step after step after step. compressed into areas where eventually at the end of the training the pilot has been submitted to a lot of stress a lot of problems. so i think that's probably the most intense. >> so once you're a pilot, how do they monitor mental health? >> other than this fit for duty which is a federal aviation administration regulation it has to be done. so as far as mental health continuing there are what we call crew resource management in

the cockpit. that's very intense. and this is an intimate relationship really that goes on in that cockpit between the pilot and the co-pilot. that in itself produces a certain level of awareness of each other. you're watching out for each other. you look at these police shows where they say this is my partner, i'm not going to do anything without my partner. that kind of relationship is what goes on in the cockpit. although you have different people rotating in and out. >> tom, we understand in terms of background checks in terms of any sort of examination, it varies from country to country and maybe even airline to airline. >> that's true. but lufthansa has one of the best reputations in the world for you know all of their operations of that airline. so you know if this can happen to lufthansa, think of all the other airlines out there it could happen to as well. go david, do you think things need to change in terms of the mental health examination or is it going pretty well? >> i most certainly do and every pilot i talk to says it's a good system it works, it's safe.

we're meeting the what would be the considered the minimum requirement. that's by the way what regulations do. they say this is the minimum thing that you have to do. what it doesn't say is how you have to do it. and that's what that's why things are different throughout the country and the world, is the way that they're done. almost every regulation at the end of it says or other means acceptable to the administrator. >> meaning what? you'd like to see more uniformity? >> i would, yes. i think that it could be better. but we have to approach it cautiously and in the manner of a safety improvement. part of the safety management system which every airline has. and the safety management system will weigh the alternatives of what needs to be done. instead of just saying this is a problem and here's a fix we should do. what's often skipped in that during the dramatics of what's going on is they say here's the problem, here's the fix. between that there's a lot of work that has to be done. a lot of analysis or you'll end up doing something that makes safety worse instead of better.

>> tom, if in fact this co-pilot was depressed, this is beyond a suicide. this is a mass murder. what would you do as an investigator to begin trying to really sort of unlock who this person was? >> well they'll be looking at everything in his life. as i mentioned earlier, trying to find out if there's some indication that he's having personal problems or that he's had them in the past. you know as david mentioned when they go through flight training that's one of the most stressful environments they're ever going to face in their life. would you think at that point, if he had issues that classmates instructors, others would notice it. and take steps to remove the person from the environment, knowing that they would you know maybe not you know be healthy enough mentally to fly. in this case this is not a situation where he was dealing with a stressful situation at the moment. you know clear day, good weather, clear flight no problems. but the depression was creeping

insidious illness, that he may have had, that caused this to come about over a period of time. the decision to crash that plane may have been made weeks ago and just waiting for the right moment the right time to actually execute his plan. >> that's all so troubling to think about. david soucie tom fuentes, thanks so much we'll check back in with you. let's go over to chris. >> there's other news developing right now. we've learned that yemen's president is taking refuge in saudi arabia forced out of a country that's now up for grabs, as for the chaos he leaves behind a saudi-led arab coalition keeps pounding back houthi rebels. it destabilizes the entire region. as well as the united states' dealings with iran. let's check in with cnn's senior international correspondent nick paton walsh joining us from afghanistan with the latest. >> a troubling regional dimension as you were saying. we're seeing the second night passing of saudi predominantly

saudi airstrikes against the houthi rebels. they seem to be targeting the northern stronghold of the iranian-backed houthis. the houthis saying ten civilians were killed in the strikes, one hitting a market one a house near a houthi leader who presumably was the target. while the anger builds on the ground as well. potentially the devastation, the enduring question is does the saudi coalition have do send in ground troops to achieve their aims on the ground to restore the government of the president who has fled to saudi arabia. he hopes to a tend a coalition key meeting in sharm el-sheikh on the way imminently. what we're seeing at this point is that group suggesting they may need a joint reaction force to militarily intervene in what they refer to as hot spots around the region. that's the key issue here. we're seeing the sunni states here getting their act together on one side against in this case in yemen the shia that replicates the violence across the middle east. the u.s. despite their peace

talks with shia iran now coming to a vital moment are actually giving intelligence backing up militarily the sunni coalition here. that's a very messy place for washington to be and we're in very dangerous uncharted territory here for the middle east as a whole. >> nick thank you very much. breaking news out of amsterdam at this hour a major power outage has hit the dutch capital. all outgoing flights from schiphol airport are on hold we understand they should be resuming soon. incoming flights are being diverted to other regional airports the outage was caused by an overload on the power grid. the affect will be widespread schiphol is one of the biggest international airports in europe. the republican-led u.s. senate passing a budget plan to cut spending by $5.1 trillion over ten years. raise military funding and attempt to repeal obamacare. this passed after a marathon 15-hour debate session before recessing for the easter holiday. the house passed a similar spending plan wednesday. the bills will have to be

reconciled before any budget can be sent to the white house. a massive explosion here in new york city. two buildings burst into an inferno, both collapsed, two other row buildings severely damaged. good samaritans went into action helping people escape after the blast. we have shoi showing a woman's dramatic rescue from a fire escape. you're looking at it right there. 19 people injured, four still critically. new york city's mayor says the cause is a gas leak. almost exactly the same thing happened in harlem just over a year ago. >> so frightening for someone not accustomed to living in a city when the buildings are so close together. that was a concern the other buildings would be affected. they had evacuate several. >> common problem in the city the architecture is old. i went down there and you could feel the heat for blocks away. but something not unique to you in new york but special here people flew to the scene instead of flying away. seeing if there was anyone throw

out of the window they got that woman down. there was ten people on the ground. >> it's amazing nobody was killed. >> i love the good samaritans stories. >> a little good stuff early in the show. >> please stay with cnn for continuing coverage of the french alps crash investigation. including a closer look at how airlines manage their flight crews, should pilots undergo routine psychological screenings? we'll discuss that. and was the cure worse than the disease? did security changes after 9/11 make this mass murder of flight 9525 possible? we'll take a look at why.

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the big question now is why, why did the co-pilot do this? how do we stop it from happening again? "the wall street journal" reporting that the co-pilot now accused mass murderer was battling some kind of medical condition that could have been a mental health issue. spokesperson for germany's aviation office wouldn't say if it was physical or mental. was it depression? if it were let's take that assumption. should pilots have to undergo routine psychological tests? is that the answer?

few do that. let's have someoneway weigh in who understands the situation well. justin green, private pilot, president of the international air and transportation safety bar association. meaning he's also an attorney. justin we're looking for a quick fix. we want this to be a fail-safe, psychological evaluations, regular ones where pilots have to be evaluated by someone who understands stability. would that be the perfect answer? >> first of all, i don't think there's any perfect answer to this situation. secondly what has to happen is something to be put in place that's actually effective. i think that there has to be a really big study on whether regular psychological examinations would actually catch people like this. because what you're talking about is looking inside someone's mind and trying to figure out what they're going to do. and i'm just not sure about that. >> why not do it? >> well i think you got to say how massive an undertaking this is. and david soucie was talking about before that the faa puts out minimum standards. in this case the faa would have

to act. because what you'd be requiring is pilots every airline to require its pilots to undergo these psychological testing. there's going to be a huge pushback by the pilots' unions. >> why? >> think about this you're a pilot. one of the reasons when i got out of the marine corps i didn't become an aviation airline pilot and went to law school with you instead, was because your livelihood is based on your health. mental health physical health. if you have a problem with your eye, you might be out of the cockpit for the rest of your career. if you go and self-report. i think this is a big part of the story, pilots who have mental health issues are going to be very reluctant to go and say look i'm having a mental health issue. once they are tagged with that label, they actually have to fight their way back into the cockpit. they got to get signed off. >> it's not just a stigma it's practical. >> it's practical. they have to go through a really tough process to prove once they self-report and say look i have a psychological issue.

they've got to convince a psychiatrist and a medical doctor to that they're fit for duty. >> so there's a burden you're saying. let's see if the burden is justified. the numbers frightening. you put them into context, here they are. 24 crashes that were seen as deliberate. and that is almost you see the label up on the top. aircraft-assisted suicide. 24 sounds like a big number even since 1993. less than 1% because there have been so many plane crashes that are seen as deliberate. 7,244. when you see that even though it's such a small percentage. it seems like a lot of them. to you does that justify the burden based on what's done now. let's put up the graphic of what you have to do now. the faa guide for medical examiners. you ask piltszots if they're depressed, bizarre behavior. the medical examiners not often with the pilot. the other pilots are, so there's

a self-reporting requirement. you say that gets tricky. >> it's not self-reporting. >> i mean it's among pilots. >> the other pilots would have to report somebody acting a little strange and that just human nature you're going to be very reluctant to say first officer smith, i'm not so sure about him. >> you don't want to go down in the plane. >> it's like police it's not going to be something obvious. if somebody is muttering under their breath and hearing voices you're going to report that. but what we're talking about is someone who looks down and you may ask someone hey, you look a little down. >> i had a tough weekend. it's not human nature to go out of your way to report something unless it's obvious. and i doubt very much we're talking about something really obvious here. >> here is something that is really obvious -- you can't do nothing. because we're seeing all the time in so many different recommends srealms of society, mental health is

becoming more recognizable whether we want it to be or not. what do you see as potential changes, not in place now meaning, that would help mine miz this risk. >> this is a relatively low risk. >> aviation safety is a zero sum gain. there's no acceptable rate of aviation accidents. pilots are screened observed by their fellow pilots one thing that is really important is that airlines encourage self-reporting. don't penalize people who take themselves out of the cockpit. encourage over pilots to speak up if they see a problem. the second thing is tough figure out what is effective. here you know putting every pilot through a ringer a psychological testing, exam every year. >> what would have worked better? >> i think the easiest thing is to have two people in the cockpit. that's much more efficient it can be done today. it could have been done the day before this accident. >> couldn't you just take me out, if you were on a suicide

mission? >> any time there's no silver bullet. we said before. but two pilots in the cockpit is much more less likely, one pilot is going to be able to crash the airplane than a pilot alone in the cockpit. what we're talking about is what is effective. it may not be someone who wants to do this most likely get through a psychological exam. a psychological exam may lower the risk. having someone in the cockpit clearly would lower the risk. >> justin thank you very much. what do you think about this a lot of this seven gauging the dialogue going on among all of this. send us your questions, you can tweet us use the #germanwingscues you can get us on facebook individually or by the show. we have a cnn exclusive, with the ceo of lufthansa, the parent company of germanwings. does he think the co-pilot had anything in his background that suggested that he could do something so sinister.

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we want to bring you the latest at this hour on the crash of flight 9525.

investigators searching the home of 27-year-old andreas lubitz. taking several bags with them looking for a motive of why he flew into a mountain. we're learning that he reset the plane's auto pilot to descend to 100 feet. the disaster leaving families shattered and airline executives stunned. lufthansa's ceo spoke exclusively to cnn's fred flight gen pleitgen about the tragedy. tell us what he said. >> he said he was shocked by what happened there, by the fact that one of his pilots did this he also said that in spite of what happened he still believes in the screening process. he said it's something that lufthansa has always prided itself on. however, he also says that in light of these events that they are going to re-evaluate their entire processes of how they train pilots how they evaluate pilots let's have a look at what he also had to say. >> to tell you the truth, we

have no explanation at this point. we at lufthansa have for decades been so proud of selecting the best people to become pilots. training them in the best way. having them qualified in the best way. that's something of this kind would ever happen to us is uncomprehendible and i think we just need to understand that it's a single case which every safety system in the world cannot completely rule out. i think that's what we take as an explanation, if you want to call it that. >> might there have been signs? could there have been indications that this person might have been mentally unstable? >> no. the pilot has passed all his tests, all his medical exams. we have at lufthansa, a reporting system where crew can report without being punished their own problems or they can report about problems of others without any kind of punishment. that hasn't been used either in this case. so all the safety nets all the safety nets we're so proud of here have not worked in this case. >> what do you know about what

exactly happened? >> after the pilot, after the captain has left the cockpit, he tried to regain access there were knocks on the door according to the french authorities, and door was either kept locked or not opened in the way it was supposed to be. that for sure is a clear indication that the remaining pilot didn't want the cath ton return. >> because we've been talking about there might have been a medical emergency. there might have been some other event that could have caused the co-pyatt to become incapacitated. you believe the co-pilot deliberately steered the plane into the mountain? >> we do have a safety procedure in place in case the remaining pilot gets unconsciousness, there's a way to oath door from the outside unless the person on the inside blocks it. and this apparently has happened here. >> and one of the things of course in light of all that that they are evaluating right now is that two people in the cockpit rule. we do know of course that that's something that lufthansa did not

have. he says that so far, it's never been an issue for lufthansa before. but of course with ha happened there, with the plane going down they're re-evaluating that as well. also because a lot of other airlines are doing the same thing. we do expect lufthansa to make changes to that policy very soon chris. >> interesting, fred that's the first time we've heard from someone involved in a position of leadership that the safety procedure to get through the door using the keypad and then the co-pilot having to lock it. that's what they believe happened here. that the captain did try to get back in using the keypad and didn't happen. we'll keep chasing down that part fred we'll chase you back on that. in other news the president of yemen is taking refuge in saudi arabia ahead of this weekend's arab league summit. back in his country, chaos. a saudi-led arab coalition blasting iran-backed houthi rebels with airstrikes. and now threatening to send in ground troops. their action in yemen of course

infuriating iran. destabilizing the region. the deadline meanwhile for a nuclear deal with iran just four days away. the saudis are warning they may have to build their own nuclear bomb to counterbalance a nuclear iran. the talks continue in switzerland, both sides insisting that progress has been made. iran's president row hanni sending a personal letter to secretary of state john kerry. two cousins from illinois including a member of the army national guard arrested and charged with conspiring to provide material support to isis. federal officials say 22-year-old hassan edmonds was taken into custody at o'hare airport wednesday before he could board a flight to egypt, allegedly to join the terror group. 29-year-old jonas edmonds was arrested at his home for allegedly plotting to attack a u.s. military facility in illinois where his cousin had been training. we've got meteorologist jennifer gray taking a look at

the world's weather for us. what do you see? 60 and sunny everywhere? i like it. >> i wish i could tell you that. it's going to be much colder in the east. we have a ridge in the west. a trough in the east. it's bringing much warmer than normal temperatures in the west and much cooler than normal temperatures in the east. temperatures will run 10-20 degrees below normal throughout the weekend for the eastern half of the u.s. as we go through the next couple of days. morning low temperatures will be in the teens in chicago. on saturday morning. 26 on sunday morning. even in the northeast, 35 degrees, your morning temperature on saturday morning in new york. in the 20s on sunday. what you factor in the wind chill. it will feel like 25 degrees in boston. this is saturday morning in buffalo, it will feel like 6 and so temperatures will feel like the teens and 20s and we could possibly even be looking at snow across portions of new england, including boston on saturday. even portions of long island. we'll keep an eye on that.

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japan. is the idea of the experience of the pilot. understand this pilot, this co-pilot had 630 hours of flying time to a nonaviator like myself i'm not sure what to make of that. how much is that in relation give us context there. >> that is an infant of a pilot. so raw he doesn't even know what he doesn't know. and 100 hours at the controls of the airbus. this is a person who doesn't have a lot of experience. and on the face of it that's not a great idea to leave somebody like that alone in a cockpit. things can happen quickly. and things can go bad quickly in aviation and it's very unforgiving. the other thing to think about here michaela is that the mental health of pilots is sort of a peer-reviewed process. which goes over the course of many years. this is a pilot who was brand new, over very low time. in the u.s. he would have double the amount of time and there

would be more opportunity to vet a person like this. >> interesting point that leads me to the next conversation about mental health screening. some reports are emerging that there was a depression issue with this co-pilot. "wall street journal" is going as far to say he had some sort of medical condition. we talk about the self-reporting with david soucie a moment ago and with justin green. self-reporting seems questionable if you're relying on the person themself to say hey, i've got an issue. or even the other pilot or a peer to say this guy's got a problem. that seems questionable. >> yeah. you're not going to raise your hand and say hey, i've got this problem and potentially ground yourself and derail your career. there's a lot of stigma associated with mental health issues to this day. we all know that. i think the airlines need to lean forward a little more and encourage their people they can come forward confidently and address these issues. >> we heard the ceo of lufthansa just say last block that they have a policy that they can report without consequence.

let's move to the door incursion or the lack thereof. it struck some of our producers here do we need to protect ourselves from rogue pilots. pilot suicide represents less than 1% of crashes. we can probably rest assured. do you believe changes need to be made? >> i think that the thing about aviation is you always should learn from every accident. and if you're not learning from those accidents, it wouldn't be as safe as it is today. how do you make a door though that works equally well on both sides? if the bad guy is on either side? that's a real problem. there's probably technology that can address this. think the airlines need to start looking at this as well as the regulators. >> at a time like this we do look to technology. i'm wondering what you think about some of the technology that is available. for example in my vehicle or a vehicle that any passenger would drive, there's onstar capabilities there's

anti-braking or braking technology et cetera. why couldn't the planes have that? we understand it costs money. >> it does think about it michaela this is the eighth aviation accident we've talked about over the course of a year. add up the cost of doing all this searching for these black boxes, just for starters not to mention the risk of people in the alps trying to find these cards which have the flight data recorder information. it's technically possible. it's feasible to have streaming data from these aircraft when something goes awry and conceivably two-way capability ala onstar to open up a door for example or perhaps take some level of control over an aircraft. it's something to consider. >> one thing we've seen change is the procedure, the u.s. we know mandates two crew members at all times in the cockpit. other airlines have followed suit. some in fact as soon as yesterday, changing that rule. shouldn't it be standard worldwide?

>> absolutely. this is a simple one, or it should be. having somebody in there alone, obviously having somebody in there to check out the other person. in case something, there is a malicious intent is a good idea. this again is kind of a cost issue. you've got a short-haul airline, very busy flight attendants the pilot has to step out. it stops the service and so forth. but it should be mandatory. >> great running through this laundry list of issues and factors and protocols with you, miles. join of conversation can you tweet us @newday or facebook.com/newday. we'll have more on flight 95256789 we're learning more and we're going to give you the developments ahead. but we also have to tell you about what's going on in the fight to control yemen. this may be the trickiest and most dangerous situation in the world. for the united states. and for you. we'll tell you why.

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the most volatile places on earth. saudi airstrikes against house of representativesen forces in yemen. let's bring in cnn global affairs analyst and retired u.s. delta force commander lieutenant colonel james reese and hilary mann leverett. it's great to have both of your expertise with us this morning. it could not be more complicated there. the sort of shifting geopolitical sands. hilary help us understand what this means for the u.s. and that region. >> well we're talking first and foremost about an internal conflict in yemen. which because of its geostrategic location is important. inserting into the conflict we have potentially a regional war, we have saudi arabia that has now essentially invaded yemen

and threatens to bring with it some of the largest sunni-led countries like egypt, sudan, which is under the leadership of an indicted war criminal. and turkey which is a nato ally. this could be this could seriously impact u.s. interests across the board as we have potential for a real regional conflagration. the only real silver line something potentially we may be able to realign our relations with iran and bring the region more into a balance, a balance of power that brings all of the relevant countries to a negotiating table. rather than to yet another war. >> colonel, that's the part i don't get. hilary used the word realign. if you look at yemen, you have us supporting the auds insaudis in their fight against the houthis, who are shia rebels funded by iran and you look at where you just came back from in iraq and we are fighting against the sunnis there, who are being

fought by iran and the shia rebels. we're helping them on one side and we're fighting against them on the other side what kind of alignment is that? >> yeah chris, you know alignment i don't think is the right way to put this. that is such a complex task in the middle east. we have to break these down the smaller simpler tasks. we can't just group these all in together. everyone is fighting a common enemy, for the last three weeks up in tikrit and seeing it it was great to see. we saw the forces out there. in yemen right now, i think one thing we have to be able to do is take the sunni and shia piece away for a minute. let's talk about the houthis literally they attacked a, a president and his parliament and a country that was freely elected. they went through an election. hadi he was elected, put into power by the people. they came in. but if you remember two months ago when we spoke, when the

houthis came through this whole thing, back in january, and hadi stepped down with some of his members of parliament we said right on the show with you, hadi will be back because the houthis are not prepared to run the country. so i think we need to keep in mind the houthis, sunni, shia even though they're shia they did this internally and they attacked a freely-elected government. >> to chris's premise, with what about that that the u.s. supports the sunnis in one country and the shia in another country. is that okay? do we need to pick a side? >> well i think is dramatizes that u.s. policy is really in free fall. we have chaos in iraq in syria, in libya, in yemen. we really have a complete dysfunction and free pafall characterizing u.s. policy. what we need to do is have a fundamental rethink and that may be the process we're going through in terms of trying to strike a deal with iran. a fundamental rethink that has

us looking at more of a balance of power in the region not the united states being the so-called firefighter, putting out the fires, but in the process stoking regional conflicts and making the situation much more threatening to the united states. >> why does the situation clearly state's iran's intentions of being as disruptive as possible and in many different positions of the world as they can find? >> i think the perception in more places in the middle east around the world is that it's our erstwhile saudis i would take issue with my colleague, that hadi in yemen was not exactly freely elected. he was really saudi-installed and american-funded to carry out a drone program that was enormously unpopular in yemen. and we have the saudis, whether they're arming funding or training groups that became isis or groups that became al qaeda, starting with osama bin laden in afghanistan. that's the real problem. the problem is not that we

should dump the saudis as allies but we need balance and that's what's so important about bringing iran into the picture into a negotiating table. rather than working with the saudis to somehow counter the iranians. >> colonel reese, your response? how do you see that? >> a minute ago hilary said the u.s. has got to stop being the fireman, we are. the saudis, ejudgmentgyptians the regional powers have decided to step in here. they have done this in iraq. you have this whole coalition of folks, we're sitting in the background a little bit. up in iraq the badr core commander said it's better than the u.s. advisers sitting in the green zone. maybe we need to sit back and let the forces do it i don't think we're being the firemen, think we're aligning with some of our allies we see atrocities happen in some places, we giving some support. but i don't think we should sit here and push the american projection and let these arab

countries do what they think they need to do in the region. let's see what shakes out. >> complex situation, you can't do better than having colonel reese, who has his eyes on the ground and hilary mannleverett. thank you very much. we're following a lot of news let's get to it. the co-pilot who authorities say deliberately crashed the plane into the mountains. >> the door was designed for a purpose. >> before you accuse someone, you need to have all the evidence in place. >> two people in the cockpit every time. we've also prevented any pilot suicide. this is really a war to defend the government of yemen and protect the yemeni people. >> i don't currently know the specific goals and object i have beens of the saudi campaign. >> is there going to be a deal with the iranians on the nuclear program? >> if the iranians are prepared to make that leap to meet our red lines, we can get a deal

done. this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota, and michaela pereira. >> good morning, everyone welcome to our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. at this hour investigators are digging into why andreas lubitz decided to fly a plane packed with 150 people into the side of a mountain. items have been removed from his home in hopes of establishing a motive for why this seemingly normal young man who loved to fly chose to die in such an unthinkable fashion. >> we've learned this co-pilot did reprogram the plane's auto pilot to 100 feet. there's no good reason for that. several airlines already changing policy because of what we've learned here. we've got every angle of the story covered for you this morning. starting with cnn's rosie tomkins, she's live outside the co-pilot's home in montabaur, germany. the key there is to understand what was going on in this guy's head. the latest? >> hi chris, here in montabaur

as you can see a large gathering of people and media gathering with the focus on this man who grew up in this town with an apparently normal family. how on earth he could have come to be somebody motivated to do something so whoic. police yesterday were searching his family home here and his apartment in dusseldorf. they did recover some documents and items which they say may give us clues into why he could have done this. other questions around his mental stability, the community here have described him as a normal man. those that knew him since he was a teenager talked about how he loved to fly. how he was realizing that dream to become a pilot. it's been mentioned that he took a break several years ago to become a pilot. reports that he was depressed at the time are unconfirmed. neighbors expressing sympathy for the family who are of course not only dealing with the grief of having lost their son, they're dealing with the incredible shock of hearing that he apparently deliberately did this.

he spent the final minutes alone in the cockpit, silently breathing and deliberately plunging himself and all those people to death. michaela? >> all right. thank you so much for that. now a question that's on the minds of so many today, what on earth could have led the co-pilot to intentionally crash that plane into a mountainside? cnn's senior international correspondent fred pleitgen has more from cologne, germany. >> i was talking to the ceo of lufthansa, the parent company of germanwings. i posed that question to him and he said at this point in time the company has no explanation as to why this man did this. they say they very much pride themselves on the way they choose their pilots on the way they train their pilots and also on the way that the professionalism of their pilots is. so they say they have no idea how this could have happened or what his mental state could have been. they say there were no red flag thes either raised in his training or raised in his work experience that he gained in the company since 2013.

we've learned more about what actually happened in the plane. apparently right after the plane reached cruising altitude the captain went out of the cockpit presumably to go to the bathroom and that point the co-pilot locked the door. there's a code for someone to try to get back in. but the ceo of lufthansa told me that he believes the co-pilot simply did not let the pilot back in he locked the door and then deliberately as chris just said put the auto pilot on 100 feet which eventually led to the plane crashing into the mountain. so there are still a lot of questions, but certainly one thing that the lufthansa ceo, when speaking to me was very clear on -- he said this was clearly a deliberate attempt to destroy this aircraft. guys? >> fred thanks so much for that. well the news that the co-pilot deliberately crashed the plane is devastating to the families of the victims. they gather in france for a memorial service near the crash site. meanwhile, weather slowing the task of recovering remains be

let's get to cnn's senior international correspondent nic robertson in france with an update. >> well the wind is picking up here today, but the helicopter operations and recovery effort is continuing despite the high winds. what we're seeing an increased number of helicopters, we're seeing the recovery teams with their backpacks and harnesses being lifted high into the mountains. we are expecting more families to be brought here today by the french authorities. yesterday a service was held in a local church. and a memorial service was held in a field that the french authorities brought more than 100 family members to. this was the closest site they said they could bring the family members to the crash site. there was a memorial plaque there. the family members were able to read the names of their loved ones on the plaque. of course those, the family members also coming to terms, not just with the location not just with their grief already, but burdened with the knowledge

now knowing that the co-pilot had intentionally killed their relatives. one father spoke, saying that they should look at their loved ones' whole lives, not the last few minutes. this is what he said. >> i would encourage them to not focus on those last ten minutes. the final crash. but i'd like to encourage them to think about the wonderful years that they have enjoyed life together. those wonderful moments, happy moments with the family with friends. >> now the recovery effort is continuing. we are expecting more bodies to be recovered from the crash site today. also aircraft pieces were being picked up yesterday. we could see at one point, one piece of aircraft slung beneath a helicopter on a cable as it was pulled out of that remote mountain area. all that is being take ton a

staging area. the family is not expected to go to that staging area. but will likely go to the memorial site likely to the church. the french authorities trying to do everything they can to help the families with their grieving. back to you. >> nic, and obviously we have to balance the urgency with the safety of those trying to do the recovery there. that's treacherous terrain, high winds and helicopters do not mix well. let's get to the bigger question of why this happened and how do we stop it from ever happening again. we have former ntsb chairman jim hall and cnn national security analyst, juliette kayyem. juliette starting with you, do we have it right so far? we have to go on the reporting, we have to go on the airlines we have to go on the authorities. if this was a deliberate act, it takes us to the central issue of -- yes, why did he do it. but how do we stop this from happening? is there a way to make sure that nobody can ever use an airplane as a weapon? >> this is where didit gets

difficult. we have a global economy, millions of people are in the air. we need flow to work. so the more security you put on any system the slower it will be. we're constantly balancing flow with security. we can put cameras in the cockpit. we can find some way, use technology to sort of bypass a potential sort of suicidal pilot. we could, there are other means that can you do to sort of make sure that this post 9/11 security effort right, to close the cockpit door which has been quite successful may have ways to get around it. which we might need. but let's put this in perspective. this is a horrible tragedy. but in the history of airlines disasters and airline travel this is not the highest risk, right? >> you have 24 out of like 7,000, .3-something percent, it's very small, since 1993. but one is tomorrow right? we design this cockpit situation after 9/11 to keep us safe. >> and now it's bitter i know. >> we're getting hurt by our own

safety change. >> it's a bitter irony. let's just say that change has worked. to the extent that the vulnerability of the pilots in the cockpit has now essentially gone to zero right? no one has been able to enter a cockpit door unless they are invited in. that is good. but we may need to mend some of the changes we put into place. the threats change this is a new kind of threat there are other things that can be done more psychological evaluation for pilots all of things we've been talking about the last couple of days. but there's no system like that's as open you know has so much movement that's going to be perfectly safe. there are always going to be vulnerabilities. >> jim, as you well know we're seeing more and more mental illness manifest in problems all the time. because it's ignored, it's not recognized by society. we're not going to solve any of that today. but when you look at what happened in this scenario what are changes that could be made that would make a difference and make this less likely? >> well since 2000 ntsb has had

a recommendation for cameras in the cockpit. we do not have cameras in the cockpit today. and in this investigation, we will have the sound, hopefully we will have the data. but we will not have the images of what occurred in that cockpit. which will leave this investigation in many instances, incomplete. so cameras in the cockpit and of course putting in regulation the requirement that they're constantly be two pilots or two members of the flight crew in that cockpit as we have had in the united states is important and has seemed to work. >> two points of push-back. cameras in the cockpit help people lie you, ntsb former investigator figuring out what happened and why so there's not mystery. the mh-370 drama of not knowing. but it doesn't stop it. two people in the cockpit might stop it. or might not. because someone could overpower me. if i'm in the cockpit with them and they want to do something

horrible. or i may in cahoots with them. so those aren't silver bullets to prevent, either are they? >> well information is a silver bullet. and these investigations are designed for the purpose to prevent a further recurrence of this similar type of event. of which we have had some five to eight depending on your count. of possible murder-suicides by pilots in commercial aviation. this is the issue that this investigation needs to address. and while after 9/11 we looked at threats outside the cockpit -- >> now you have to look inside. >> we need to examine threats inside the cockpit. >> and juliette is agreeing with you. let me ask you one thing that my producer was pointing out to me. this guy turned the knob whatever i don't know the specific parlance we don't need

to down do 100 feet. why would you ever allow somebody make a plane automatically fly at 100 feet. what good can come from that? >> part of it is we trust our pilots the entire system relies on some sort of sense they know what they're doing and this fell apart when you have a suicidal pilot. you could think of ways in which you could override a pilot who is putting in numbers that don't make sense do air traffic control. we rely on our pilots that's why there's so much focus on who are they are they getting the help they need. i have to agree with jim on not just the two pilots in the cockpits the but also the cameras. the reason why is no system is perfectly safe. but the more levels of security can you put in the more sort of barriers the more difficult you make it you reduce risk. you're not going to get it to zero there's always going to be the person you don't catch. the more barriers can you put on and the debate about cameras in the cockpit. we need to end it now. they need to get in there. weather as an investigation or as a deterrent.

>> jim hall thank you very much and to juliette as always. we have news on this front in terms of understanding why this happened. we are going to get a statement from the german prosecutor it is imminent. we're monitoring that. when it comes we'll get that information and figure out what it means in this mystery right now. michaela? back to another top story we're watching yemen's president in saudi arabia's capital ahead of this weekend's arab league summit. back in his nation chaos reigns a saudi-led air coalition continues to pound iran-backed houthis with airstrikes, despite opposition from iran which is already in a tight spot amid nuclear talks. nick paton walsh joins us from kabul with the latest in the conflict. nick? >> second night of heavy airstrikes around yemen. focus it seems slightly to the north of the capital in the houthi stronghold of sanaa. where the houthis say four people were killed in a market. and six killed in a house hit near a houthi leadership target.

we can't verify those claims but obviously there is mounting aggression on the ground from many alongside the houthis here. most troubling, a regional dimension to this now. significantly obvious. you mention houd this could potentially derail u.s. talks with iran the u.s. are backing the saudi coalition. the saudi coalition is broadening now, predominantly sunni in the arab legal meeting in sharm el-sheikh. they will be continuing to discuss the joint arab strike force so to speak. the united military force, they want to use what they see to be hotspots around the world. fundamentally we're seeing the prospect of saudi troops and maybe even egyptian troops being introduced into this war. that would be a sunni ground fight against a predominantly shia houthi rebel movement backed by shia iran. exactly the kind of conflict that's flown across the middle east now. exactly what people are most concerned about. we're into a very troubling new chapter here chris. >> as you've been saying it's as complicated as this seems.

the simple truth is the region is destabilizing, it may reach to afghanistan, we'll stay with you. the deadline for a nuclear deal with iran now just four days away. and the saudis are not helping the situation. raising the stakes by warning that they may build a bomb if iran is ever allowed to get one. iran's president, hassan row hanni intervening in the talks, sending a personal letter to president obama and the leaders of other five powers involved the complete contents of that letter still unknown. but its effect is certainly going to be relevant. u.s.-led war planes launching more airstrikes on isis targets on the iraqi city of tikrit. support for mission on the ground is thinning iran-backed shiite fighters boycotting the fight saying they don't want help from the united states. as many as 10,000 fighters no longer battling the terror group. the u.s. secret service reportedly imposeing tougher rules on driving agency cars after drinking. now according to the "washington post." the new policy prohibits staff from driving government vehicles

within ten hours of consuming alcohol. that policy went into effect this week amid allegations that two secret service agents drove through a bomb threat investigation near the white house earlier this month after a party at a nearby bar. we're wondering what kind of effects and what rules would be coming. >> ten hours it seems random. but okay. i guess we need that since they -- >> common sense. >> common sense violated the rules. you know you get it right now, it's the secret service, they've been getting a lot of stink on them recently. it doesn't matter who it is where it is it could be any, we see this all the time. how do you hold those who are in power accountable? it does seem like you're supposed to hold these guys the most accountable. but it seems like they seem to slip through ordinary accountability. more than the rest of us. >> and these were senior two senior agents. thanks for the update. back to our top story, the news that germanwings co-pilot

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no relation mr. perrera, thanks so much for joining us. i think it's going to come as a surprise to many people to learn that mental health screenings are not part of the regular screening and the regular process for faa-approved pilots. >> yes. and everything is on the table after this accident. we're going to have to look at everything we can do to prevent recurrence. as jim hall said earlier. that's one of the primary missions in an investigation

like this and psychological screening will have to be looked at as well as technology solutions. changes to the airplane. cockpit and lavatory configurations are possibilities and technology solutions that have been discussed to possibly take over when the pilots are either incapacitated or intend to do bad things. should also be on the table. >> let's look at the mental health right off the bat. that is something that is shocking to people. we know they have a yearly physical. shouldn't this be part of the yearly physical. these people are trusted with the lives of hundreds of people. >> well in the past the primary focus on system safety has been on airplanes and training for pilots to make sure they do the right thing with respect to accidental causes. after 9/11 you would have thought that the aviation industry would have taken a similar system safety approach. >> so what's the problem. >> for security.

>> sothe problem is not taking in my opinion a professional or thorough enough approach at engineering security issues out of the aviation system as well as they have for the accidental issues out of the aviation system. >> i understand when we had this conversation about cameras in the cockpit, much conversation mh-370 brought that up. i understand you were actually a co-author of the ntsb recommendation that cameras be installed in cockpits. but that was 15 years ago. why has that not moved forward? >> actually started in the 1990s. over 20 years ago. it's primarily the pilots' union opposing it. they have a very strong lobby and they already believe that they have enough invasion of their privacy with the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder. have fought very long and hard

to prevent the industry from putting cockpit video recorders in place. and i personally think that's been very selfish and greedy on their part. >> let's drill down on that a little bit further. let's just say we are not this is not a referendum on all pilots. we know that the majority of pilots are professionals, they comport themselves well with the safety of all at heart. they've been against the mental health screenings cameras, they've been against some of this other technology. why? >> to them it's a personal privacy issue. i, i don't work for alpa i respect them i've worked with them on many accident investigations and they're a necessary part of every accident investigation, in my opinion. they're a necessary part of our cockpit, also i don't agree with some people that we get all the pilots out of the cockpit. thy ink we need to have pilots still in the cockpit. at least two of them for now. i think we do need to have

intelligent systems in place, though that monitor certain parameters on the airline like the a320 has an angle of attack protection mode that it monitors and regardless of the pilot inputs on the control, does not allow them to exceed a certain angle of attack. and it's relatively easy as a software engineer to conceive of and implement similar code that would restrict them to certain bounds around their planned flight path and to have air traffic control and the company, monitor that. and if they do need to go outside of those boundaries then air traffic control and the company can allow them to do so but in this case once it was obviously that there was a radical exceedance attempt outside those boundaries such a system could prevent them from doing so at that point basically he would be locked up there in the cockpit, confined to a certain flight boundary until

they figured something out. >> charley perriera thank you so much. can you tweet us your questions and comments using the #germanwingsqs. this isn't the first time that a pilot has taken his own life while robbing so many innocents of theirs as well. there's even a name for it. aircraft-assisted suicide. looking at other cases, may help us learn about this one. we're going to do exactly that for you right ahead.

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a 27-year-old co-pilot reset the auto pilot from 38,000 feet to just 100 feet before he flew the germanwings jetliners into the french alps. investigators are searching the dusseldorf home of andreas lubitz looking for any clues as to why he took the plane down. his employer lufthansa said lubitz showed no signs of instability. we're expecting new statement from the prosecutor in dusseldorf within the hour. yemen's president in saudi arabia ahead of this weekend's arab league summit.

this as a saudi-led arab coalition keeps up its air assault against iran-backed houthis. saudi arabia threatening to send in ground troops to yemen's conflict. right now amanda knox's fate is being decided by italy's supreme court. they're in session and the judges are deliberating whether to uphold her murder conviction. you'll remember knox returned to the u.s. in 2011 after a lower court threw out the original conviction. but the supreme court then reconvicted after that. now, if the court upholds its decision italy could ask for knox back for a prison sentence of up to 28 years. >> okay. chris, the final round of nuclear talks under way. but road blocks remain. iran said to be unwilling to compromise on key issues. now iran's president is making an eye peel toappeal to the united states. aaron david miller advised six secretary of state on the

arab/israeli peace process. aaron, great to see you, you're the perfect person to talk to about this this morning. what does iran want today? >> you know they're looking for a deal they can defend. one that leaves them with a capacity when the deal is done to maintain a or create an industrial-grade nuclear infrastructure. and ultimately leaves them with the possibility should they want to exercise it of breaking out to acquire a nuclear weapon. they want a deal with dignity, one that creates not just a measure of sanctions relief but demonstrates that these negotiations which have been ongoing, have been worthwhile. have paid off. and above all, i think they want to be treated, whether they deserve to be treated or not this way is another matter as a co-equal. as an emerging great power, at least in the middle east. >> the fear is among critics of

this deal that the u.s. is now so politically motivated to make a deal that it will tell stlettle for a lousy deal and give iran too many concessions, do you dpeer that? >> there are no good deals, there are only deals with varying degrees of risk. i know that negotiators always fall in love with their negotiations. they don't want to admit defeat. and sadly, when there's a lot of pressure they rush. my biggest concern i think is that -- that what will be produced and they're going to produce something by the end of march. may be too general and won't in fact create the slower, smaller more transparent and more easily verifiable iranian nuclear program. i don't think we're heading for a catastrophe. but the reality is the iranians have already won and won big-time. they maintain the right to enrich they will be left with a fairly large nuclear infrastructure. and as we know we see in yemen

in syria, in iraq their regional role is increasing. they are in fact the, as the arab world melts down it is the three nonarabs iran turkey and israel which frankly are the most consequential powers in the region and right now iran is emerging as the most consequential. >> let's talk about what's going on in yemen. saudi arabia continues to launch airstrikes against the houthi rebels. the u.s. supports saudi arabia iran supports the houthis. is this affecting the nuclear talks? >> i think the desire do shelter these talks has been so strong on both parties. i mean we virtually ignored the behavior and actions of a repressive regime. their efforts to their efforts to maintain assad in power. their support for the houthis, which i think is probably far more limited than people suspect, their role in iraq. in an effort to get this deal. this deal is a critically important component of obama's

foreign policy. and they want it. so i think no. what's going on in yemen, it's a long movie and it will not affect whether or not you get a deal by the end of march. or at least a political framework. >> we're four days away from the end of march. will there be a deal next week? >> i mean betting on this is bad. nobody ever lost money betting on arab/israeli peace. on this one i think you've got two parties that have been at this for a while. they want this. they've narrowed the gaps considerably. the americans yesterday put out the most optimistic assessment. there's always the possibility of an end game an end game catastrophe. but i suspect by the end of march, april 1, you will have some sort of political framework agreement. then the fun begins. >> and by that you mean the devil's in the details. so there's just a framework. all we can hope for is a framework next week and then they have to get into the muck.

>> but that framework better be pretty compelling. you've got a lot of people the saudis the israelis the u.s. congress the chattering classes in washington -- everyone is going to be looking into this agreement and try og to figure out whether or not in the end the u.s. was snookered. that will be i think the key fault line here. because the view in washington among many is that we're playing checkers and iran continues to play three-dimensional chess. not only in the nuclear negotiations but in the region at large. whether this passes the "washington post" test i think is going to be the most critically important and interesting thing to watch. >> next week will the u.s. congress and the general public know some real details about this? that they've been clamoring for? >> you'll probably have a three to seven-page agreement. which will contain the major principles on some technical issues. and then the next several months will be spent trying to figure out how to render that.

into a an agreement can actually stand up. and tough, very tough. but i think you're headed for some outcome. and not just continued process of negotiation. >> aaron david miller you've given us some great information this morning. we appreciate it. have a great friday. let's go over to chris. all right. alisyn. so one dangerous unknown to another. we are waiting right now for a press conference from the german prosecutor will it be a key or a clue to why this happened? because that's the question. what made the man on your screen the co-pilot on 9525 become a mass murderer? the most haunting detail could be the most critical clue so far -- that steady breathing. we have one of the best psychiatrists in the field taking us through what that may mean. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables

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this is breaking news we're just getting in details on that co-pilot who crashed flight 9525. into a mountainside.

cnn's fred pleitgen joins us from cologne, germany with more what have we learned, fred? >> this comes from the public prosecutor in the town of dusseldorf. which is the authority that's leading us investigation on the german side. they've given details about what they found when they searched the homes of andreas lubitz both in the town of montabaur, as well as in the city of dusseldorf. it appears as though they found documents in dusseldorf which they say show that there was or don't show that there was a religious or any sort of terrorism motivated thing behind all this. however, they do say that they did find records that he had been treated for some sort of illness for quite a while and also i think this is the really important part in all this. they found that he had destroyed several doctors' notes which would have declared him unfit to work and they therefore believe that he was hiding his illness from his employer.

it's something we've gotten just now. they say that they have searched the the premises they said that he had been treated for some sort of illness. they didn't elaborate whether it was mental or physical. and they said there had been sick notes that he had been issued by a doctor which were found in the apartment and which had been destroyed. therefore, they believe that he was trying to hide his illness from his employer. >> and fred one particularly chilling element of this they say they found a ripped-up note from a doctor that was giving this co-pilot a medical excuse to have taken the day off. the day of the crash. is there any more on that? the day of the crash, not just the day of the crash, they said they had found medical notes that had been ripped up up for the recent times, over the past couple of days.

including the day the fight took place, he was in fact deemed unfit to work on the day he did fly the airplane. so that of course sheds light or at least sheds a little bit of light on why he might have done all this. what exactly this illness was. it's certainly something we're going to try to find out certainly the next thing that the prosecutors are probably going to try to do speak to that doctor. who issued that note and see what exactly happened how long he had been within the treatment and how bad the illness actually was. >> fred when we say illness, is there any indication if that means depression or some sort of mental illness or physical illness? >> you know what reading the note they don't exactly say, what they say and it's a very short press statement that the prosecutor's office gave out. they say simply that he had been under treatment by a doctor for an extended period of time for an illness which they don't say

what exactly it is. they don't say whether it's something that was mental. they don't say whether it was some sort of physical longer-term thing that he might have had. but again they did say that this is something that had been ongoing and that had deemed him unfit to work. so we're going to try to get more information on that. at this point it's unclear what that illness, whether it's a depression certainly there have been media reports coming out here in germany that have gone in that direction. that he might have had some sort of mental condition, but judging from the note or from the press statement that we got from the prosecutor's office, they haven't defined yet what sort of ailment, what sort of issues andreas lubitz might have had. >> there are media reports here at home that are notable as well. one comes from "the wall street journal." and they say it was confirmed that andreas lubitz had a medical condition. in fact it was noted in his pilot's medical certificate. so in other words, whatever the medical condition was, that he was being treated for, at least

this one, maybe he had more than one. it was not one that meant he couldn't fly. but it was noted in his pilot's certificate. again, it would be so helpful if the authorities could explain if this was mental if this was physical just what it is. judge that's going to be the big question about whether or not this was something where he had a medical condition in the past. and someone was deemed that maybe he had gotten it under control. because of course there are people who do have mental problems who do have issues with things like depression. but it's something they can keep under control and so we'll have to wait and see whether or not this might have also had something to do with the fact he took a break during his pilot training in 2008. he took several months off. it's a very good question at this point in time. whether or not his employer here believed and the

authorities, the aviation authorities here in germany believe that he might have had something that he was able to keep under control. what in reality he was still being treated by the doctor and the doctor deemed he didn't have it under control and therefore issued him these sick leaves. these are things we believe we're going to get additional information throughout the day. it certainly is the big sort of line of thought, the big thread right now in this investigation that seems to point to that medical condition. whether it's mental or something else. but certainly something we're sort of trying to piece together the mowst mosaic. >> investigators say they found evidence of that in his home and found a ripped-up doctor's note giving him permission to take the day off on several days including the day of the crash. fred pleitgen thank you for all of that breaking news. and of course we'll check back with you as more details come to light. let's get over to chris.

>> while i share your frustration it would be so good to know what that medical condition is and does it mean that he was suffering from some type of advanced mental illness, maybe it doesn't matter as much as we think. that detail. let's bring in someone who can help us understand why. dr. michael well ner, one of the country's leading forensic psychiatrist and he developed a tool to help doctors flag malicious intent and develop treatment to avoid conditions like this. as a journalist we say that's not enough. i need more information, what it was a medical situation that didn't affect his head? or what if it was depression. you with looking at me during the reporting and saying it doesn't matter as much as you think. why? >> i think there are several ground troops that we have to start with. first of all, even if this was an intentional act, we have do get away from this as a pilot suicide. this is a murder suicide. what we understand in medical research is that murder-suicide is very different from suicide. when you get into the murder

suicide space, pilot suicides are one thing. pilot murder-sueicides are very rare. they're unusual events. i would tell you it's an incredibly small subset of all of those pilots with depression. keep this in mind -- you as a high-functioning man, me as a high-functioning man. many people out there who watch as high-functioning males, you don't have the bandwidth to be depressed, to allow your depression to claim you. so the idea of saying he had depression -- no. when it comes to murder-suicide it's always more than depression. murder-suicide in a mass casualty context, the most important element of that is -- hopelessness. a person can have hopelessness from a medical condition. >> he could have had some type of cancer that was getting out of control. so it's not the malady. it's what it means to him. >> it's where he goes with it as

he relates to his workplace, as he relates to his fellow crew members. the bigger scheme of things. the closest parallels that one can have to the hopelessness of murder-suicide in a pilot is the workplace mass homicide. in pilot murder-suicides, where we know more about, it isn't just that those pilots were struggling with stressors or that they may have had depression. it's that there was an antagonistic relationship between them and their superiors where their job may have been threatened. their capacity to fly, their career may have been threatened. there are several aspects of this case that are very unusual. he was only 28 years old. for people saying he was a very inexperienced pilot. what was he doing there alone? rest assured, in the previous identified murder-suicide pilot cases, they were very experienced pilots. they were older pilots. >> so the inexperience isn't enough. >> he doesn't even fit that demographic. the only thing he has in common is that he was a dedicated

pilot. and for someone who takes down a plane, the question may not be his depression but to what degree it was hopeless and it was, it was inspiring his hopelessness and to what degree how he related it to his company threatened his position with the company and his own perception of job security. keep in mind it doesn't mean that the company was hostile to him. it may have only been in his own interpretation you know what the end is near and i'm going to end it on these terms. that's the way workplace mass killings work. i'm not saying that that's what this was. but if it was ideological. like an anders brevick or an islamist he would have disseminated that message in a way that would have been obvious to us. >> they said they found no suicide note. no sign of responsibility in advance. no sign of zealotry or any type of extremist identification. but they did find ripped-up

doctor's notes that were absenting him from duty. saying you should not fly today. including the day that this crash happened. what does that mean? >> well it's just a >> well it's just a include. it's very nonspecific. the important interpretation from the absence of obvious messages is that wasn't ideologically driven. however, a person who carries out a murder/suicide who may have some resentment antagonism and wants to take his airline down with them these people didn't write notes, didn't leave manifestos. there wasn't angry messages. how they appreciated or interpreted job security where flying was everything for them. >> in terms of the take away one is just because someone's depressed doesn't mean you don't want to fly with them. there's a lot of other things that get involved. i've got that. here's the second piece.

we want to figure out how to avoid this. it seems he was hiding the condition. that's what the airlines led us to believe. what they knew allowed him to fly. he was ripping up notes. maybe he wasn't telling them. so it comes to what can we do to flag someone like this who doesn't want us to know in advance before something like this happens? >> the most important quality of a high-risk individual in a sensitive position is hopelessness. now a person may not convey that he's hopeless but a person may be in a situation, either from a social rejection, a personal rejection because that also circulates around the whole murder/suicide mass killing genre, or a threatened job loss where a person's world is disintegrating. we see that at the end of the year with familicides. who thinks about taking out a whole family? a person who loses their world. an individual who loses their world is a person at high risk

whether he looks intact or whether he's not. >> that's what we have to look for. dr. michael wellner, we'll continue this conversation. appreciate that. we'll have much more from france and germany on the flight 9525 investigation. also ahead, i want you to consider this. what would you do with 800 snld apple ceo tim cook revealing what he intends to do with his fortune. we'll have that in "cnn money." next. akes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal generating electricity on-site and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment.

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all right. it's time for "cnn money now." chief business correspondent christine romans is here. tell us what we need. >> a crack down is coming for pay day lenders, folks. these are people that make money lending people money by paycheck to paycheck. interest rates of 400%. expect new rules. apple ceo tim cook says he will give all his money away. he told "fortune" magazine he plans to donate $800 million.

almost a billionaire. he'll donate it to charity after paying for his nephew's education. world's greatest leader not long after he was questioned to fill steve jobs news. >> not heads of state, tim cook. >> he could pay for all of our kids school. putting it out there. >> great for him. good for him. >> good to happen on a good weekend. we have a lot of news coming out on flight 9525. we're going to get you that in just a moment. we also are going to bring you details about what police found in the co-pilot's home what the answers, what new questions there are. we also have breaking political news for you. stay with us.

responsible for taking down this flight. >> to tell you the truth, we have no explanation at this point. >> a number of airlines have since changed cockpit rules. >> that door was designed for a purpose. that purpose is protection. >> there's no doubt that we would like to see a functioning central government in yemen. we don't see that right now. >> let these arab countries do what they think they need to do in the region. let's see what shakes out. >> indiana governor mike pence signing the controversial religious freedom bill into law. >> taking away certain religious freedoms in order to protect ours. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. this is cnn breaking news. welcome back to "new day." it is friday march 27th. 8:00 here in the east.

breaking news in the flight 9525 investigation. german prosecutors say they found documentation in andreas lubitz home documenting a medical problem. they found ripped up notes, multiple ones granting him days off including the day of the crash. >> now investigators say they have found no claim of responsibility no suicide note but they did find evidence that the pilot had been under medical treatment. whatever the issue was, it was not new. a medical condition had also been noted in his pilot's certification. we're bringing you these breaking developments the way only cnn can beginning with cnn's senior international correspondent fredrik pleitgen live in cologne, germany. >> reporter: this comes from dusseldorf. they are working very closely with their counterparts in france that are, of course also

part of it because that's where the crash took place. you're absolutely right. they came out with a statement i would say about 20 minutes ago, a written statement where they said that evidence from his apartment in dusseldorf seems to suggest that he had an ongoing medical condition. now they said that they found documentation inside that apartment that showed that he had this ongoing illness and that he was also receiving ongoing medical attention from doctors for it. now the key thing in all of this you guys allude today this a little bit already, is the fact that they said that they found multiple ripped out sick notes that he had received from the doctor that deemed him unfit to go to work including one from the day that the flight took place. and it's interesting, if you read the note in german it clearly is one that right now is looking at this as a criminal case because they do say it was the -- on the day that the crime was committed. there's a lot of language in there that says that they are

looking at this in a way that this was -- that this is now a criminal case. also absolutely true they are also saying that they did not find any sort of good-bye note. they don't think there's any sort of -- there's nothing to suggest there's any sort of political motivation behind all of this any sort of religious motivation. they believe that this has a lot to do with the fact that there was this illness. they did not say whether this was a mental condition or whether this was some sort of physical illness. chris? >> fred the big indication is whatever it was was having an impact on him that drove him to become a mass murderer. one of the groups of people who are going to be pivotal to investigators but may want to discuss this the least in some ways will be the family. they will be questioned for clues into what lubitz was dealing with in his body and his mind. the germantown where his family lives, the entire town is in shock over the news that he sabotaged flight 9525. we have someone there. cnn's rosie thompkins outside that family home. rosie, what's the reaction? >> reporter: chris, of course

the town in absolute shock at this news disbelief that somebody could have come from here and done such a thing. i'm standing in front of the family home. you can see the world's media has descended upon what was previously a normal family home in this normal town in germany, now the focus of global global scrutiny looking for these clues. as we've been hearing, these revelations of these medical notes that there was an existing condition coming from the police searches at this home in his hometown and in dusseldorf. the focus shifting to the family and anyone who knew him who could corroborate this. his parents, who we believe traveled to france with other families of victims to grieve for their son, will now be getting these incredibly shocking revelations themselves not only that he deliberately plunged this plane into the mountain and killed these people now these revelations of his medical condition which of course we do not know yet whether or not they had information about which everybody will be fervently seeking information about,

chris. >> i'll take it here. a double dose of grief for that family of the co-pilot. crews face worsening weather as they rush to complete the daunting task of recovering remains and debris. the victim's families are attending a memorial service. nic robertson is live in france with more for us. nic? >> reporter: good morning. it is getting windy here. it's been windy all morning. the helicopters have still been flying and we are learning through the police spokesman here of progress that is being made in the recovery effort. we are told that some of the victims have -- whose bodies or parts of their bodies have been recovered so far are now in the temporary lab set up here in the mountains and they're beginning to do testing, dna testing is what the prosecutor said would have to be -- would have to be done. it may take several weeks before any of these -- any of the victims can be repatriated with their families. more families expected here today. yesterday more than 100 family

members came to a memorial service that was held in a field that french authorities said was the closest they could get the families to the crash site. there was a memorial plaque that had the names of everyone aboard the aircraft. people were able to go forward, read the lists -- read the names of their loved ones who were lost in that crash. still a lot of questions. the french authorities here really determined to give the families who still want to come here there will be more coming today, to give them the opportunity to learn as much as they can here to see what the french authorities are doing and they're also providing people to give them emotional support and counseling if they need it while they're here. back to you. >> okay nic. there are so many new developments just in the past hour for us to talk about. let's turn to peter goelz. he's former ntsb managing director. david soucie is safety analyst and former fcc investigator. and michael wellner,

psychologist. great to have you with us to help us understand the developments that just came out. the german prosecutor has just announced some of the findings of going to this co-pilot's home. they found evidence david, let me start with you, to show evidence that he did have some sort of medical condition though they are vague on what it is. they also found chillingly a torn up note a doctor's note that would have given him permission to take a couple of days off including the day of the plane crash. what are your thoughts? >> well we have to be careful of tying this to some kind of psychological treatment because we don't know that. in fact this medical examiner who's looking at the pilots he's not really the psychologist or the psychiatrist that would be treating this. so we have to be cautious about that. the fact that the certificate is noted. if you have eyeglasses that's a medical condition that's being treated.

>> it can be something benign? >> except we have to look at the doctor's note. there's a treating condition that will affect his ability to fly because he could have gotten a day off with it. that's where it's concerning. >> michael? >> i'm reluctant to get overly fixated on a medical note. i think from a forensic psychiatric perspective, the prudent approach is a psychological autopsy. what that does is that deconstructs a person's movements and actions and choices and the points leading up to the catastrophe. i think that we need to recognize his remains. what is in him toxicologically, pharmacologically. this is a rare near unprecedented condition. whatever medical condition he has, whatever psychological condition he has, there's no way it's as rare as the decision to commit murder/suicide and that's often, often when it happens, an

impulsive decision that may have been driven by what was in him or what's in his personal black box, his smartphone his second life the communications that are not immediately available to investigators, that are not in paper form but are in digital form and it can reconstruct his movements and his decisions in the next 48 to 72 to 96 hours. >> fascinating. peter, i want to bring you in. you were at the ntsb and you investigated another bizarre case of a murder/suicide and that was egypt air. and i recall it took a long time. there were at first some indications that the pilot might have done something so sinister. it took a long time to determine that. what were the challenges? >> the challenges weren't so much whether we knew what had motivated him. we had a very clear picture what had happened to him in the preceding 72 hours in that he

had gotten into trouble in new york city on a legal matter. his chief pilot had told him he was done when he got back to egypt. he had been not the most successful pilot. he was 59 years old and still had never been -- had been passed over for full pilot promotion. so there was a lot there. the reason it took some time for that to be revealed is that this was a very touchy diplomatic issue with the government of egypt. they've never accepted the fact -- the conclusion that the ntsb drew. >> right. >> but we had a clear picture of what were the motivating factors behind this guy's behavior within a few weeks after the accident. >> that's interesting, peter. so when you hear these things that have come to light in just the past hour about a medical note having been ripped up in other words, he appears to have been, according to the prosecutor keeping some details of his medical condition from

his employer. so what conclusions do you draw about this case? >> well, i think it -- and i'd look to david to talk about this a little more too. i think it highlights a very vexing problem in the aviation community, in the pilot community. we ask pilots to voluntarily take themselves off the line when they're fatigued when they don't feel fit for duty and we promise them or management promises them that that's not going to be held against them. well if you talk to the pilots unions they say, that's not true. if you take yourself off the line for fatigue or for psychological reasons, you get marked. your career is in jeopardy. and i don't know how we get around that. this is a very challenging issue in which you want people to look into themselves am i fit to fly? you want their colleagues to say, hey, this guy's got an issue. when you do that you may be

scrapping a career. and, david, i mean you don't disagree with that? >> i fully agree with that. in fact what i think was the most successful in this was the alcoholic program that they have that the faa initiated. what that does is it allows you as a pilot to say, i have a problem. and they admit that. they have a way to go to that. then they are guaranteed treatment. they're guaranteed how to take care of this and how to move forward in the career. >> is there a disincentive that there is a stigma after that? >> there is a stigma. what it doesn't do is become a permanent part of their record. now with these other things i know a pilot who's in trouble right now because he made a very simple mistake in a checklist but that follows him because now he said i self -- he self-disclosed that. look i made a mistake. no one else would have known but he landed on the other end. he said i skipped this part of the checklist. i screwed up bad me. well now he's unemployed. he is unemployed and may never fly again. >> that's telling. >> because he had to be

recertified to fly that aircraft. so this is a big problem. >> ten seconds, michael. >> this is a murder/suicide. there are analogies to law enforcement, to military who also don't reveal because they'll ruin career. i think what the media can do now is a murder/suicide in such a large focus -- scale focus on the families and the losses so pilots who are truly at risk step outside themselves before such a fatal decision and recognize that there are people who have never done anything to them who don't deserve to have their lives extinguished. >> that sounds like the answer. michael, david, peter, thanks so much. let's get over to chris. >> strong advice from the doctor as well alisyn. we do have more breaking news for you on another front. democratic senate leader harry reid will not seek another term meaning he will relinquish his seat in the upcoming 2016 race. sunlen serfaty joins us with more. what's going on? >> reporter: chris, this is big news on capitol hill representing the first big

change in congressional leadership in a long time. reid has served in congress for over 30 years and he has been at the helm of the democrats in the lead of the democrats since 2005. now he posted on twitter this morning that he has made the decision not to run. he was up for re-election in nevada in 2016 and that he will retire. now this is a twitter video that he posted. over three minutes long. it was very emotional, i should say. there was images of him over the course of his career. his wife spoke during the video. and he is recovering from a rough year already. in january he had an accident with a piece of exercise equipment which caused bruises to his face and i want to play you a little bit of this video right now in how he came to this decision. eye. >> but this accident has caused us for the first time to have a little down time. i have had time to ponder and to think. we've got to be more concerned about the country, the senate

the state of nevada than us. and as a result of that i'm not going to run for re-election. my friend senator mcconnell don't be too elated. i'm going to be here for 22 months and you know what i'm going to be doing, the same thing -- >> and in the video he later goes on to say that he didn't make this decision based on his injury. he also notes that he didn't make the decision based on the fact that in november in the 2014 mid-term elections that the republicans took control of the senate. now i have to say the big question on capitol hill is who will take over for reid. this is going to be a big absence on capitol hill. two names that come to mind are of course senator chuck schumer of new york and senator dick dush bin of illinois. >> very interesting development. as you said he has 22 months still left to go. other news now, the u.s. led coalition in tikrit continuing to hammer isis with airstrikes. iran backed shiites are boycotting it saying they don't

want help from the u.s. that could amount to 10,000 anti-isis fighters now on the sidelines. the republican-led u.s. senate passing a budget that would cut spending they say, by $5.1 trillion over the next ten years. it would raise military funding and attempt to repeal obamacare. this passed after a marathon 15-hour debate session before recessing for the easter holiday. the house passed a similar spending plan wednesday. those bills will have to be reconciled before any budget can be sent to the white house. more proof on how legendary dean smith was. he made the north carolina tar heels one of the best teams in the country. he was lauded as much for his caring as for his coaching. that never stopped, apparently not even after his death in february. in his will coach gave $200 to each of 180 of his former varsity lettermen, each player receiving the check and from the estate a letter urging them to enjoy a dinner out complements

of their former coach. one of smith's former players said his wife was so touched by the gesture she's still in tears. >> i think this speaks to what a legendary man this figure was. that is the coolest thing i've ever heard. >> it's so great. posthumously to be giving people gifts. enjoy. >> sit and enjoy a steak dinner with some of their teammates, talk about him, his greatness and time together. >> he would often tell people it's not about what kind of player you make the young man it's about what kind of young man you make the young man. >> very good. we have been asking you what you want to know about the mysterious crash of flight 9525. we will pose your question to our cnn experts. another major story this morning is yemen. it is up for grabs. saudi arabia and iran are working against each other there. america, stuck in the middle. we have this complex geopolitical ramification for the u.s.

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there's been a second night of saudi airstrikes endorsed by the u.s. on the houthi rebels. it makes iran furious. why is the white house standing by its strategy in the face of all of this turmoil when it's trying to make a deal with iran. let's turn to steven sesh. i guess we have to look at this a lot of ways. complex situations the goal is

to make them simple. when you look at this is there any simple benefit that you see to the u.s. strategy? >> i think the benefit to the u.s. strategy has to be seen in the overall context, and to suggest there is success because we managed to keep an al qaeda franchise at bay is not exactly a way to define it. i think that the failure to see the totality of how our policy has to be successful is an impediment to our ability to understand more fully what we have to do. the absence of political success is why al qaeda has managed to claim a safe haven in yemen. it's what breathes life into the houthi movement as they articulated this to the government in yemen to act on political reform to eliminate corruption and to move on a political transition successfully. >> one step to the side there. you're making the counter argument to what we've heard out of the administration about yemen being a success.

let's play josh ernst and what he said about yemen, not the abc reporter question and answer. i'll talk to you about that. play josh ernst so we hear what they said. >> yemen is a place where the united states over time did build up a strong working relationship with the central government and that strategy did effectively mitigate though not eliminate the threat that is posed by aqap. >> we had another version but it was being pushed by john carl at abc news. do you still see this as a success with this hotty government that you installed that was funded by the saudis and that has now been pushed out, the people are upset and it's a devil's playground? he said yes. you disagree why? >> he's probably right along the very narrow terms in terms of the counter terrorism over the

past several months. that totally ignores the abject failure of the ability to stand up a central authority in the absence of that central authority is the fundamental failure of our foreign policy and that of the gulf neighbors who have resorted to violent airstrikes in order to try to re-establish some kind of control in yemen having let it slip out of our hands while being watched hopelessly by and let this political process unravel. >> ambassador, this is going to be counter intuitive for you. you are in the business of bridging situations for the u.s. and outside entities but let me give you what's going on outside as people are watching this in the country. they're saying this is one more reason why we should just stay out of here as the united states. let them figure it out. let the arabs figure it out. let them figure it out in their region. every time we get involved everyone ends up hating us. what's the counter argument? >> what we're seeing now is very much that school of thought. we're letting the arabs try to work this out. what they're doing is coming up

with a military coalition that they claim will protect and preserve and reconstitute the government. i'm not sure you can do that at the end of a gun. i'm not sure that there is a military solution to what's happening in yemen. we'll see in the coming days if they can pound the houthis into submission. >> whatever it is. whatever happens will help. we'll give you our intelligence but you guys figure it out. wherever the dust settles, that's the new world and we'll start moving from there. why isn't that good enough? >> we have interests of our own. we need to be on the ground. we need to be present in the discussions and dlib fwer ragseliberations with the neighbors and make sure our interests of fully represented and presented so their policies reflect our interests. many of them are common interests with these countries themselves. nothing is done in a vk umass. all of our interests overlap and we need to be there to make sure that's understood by all the parties to the conflict. >> last question how do you

understand the current status. we're trying to do what you say with iran with nukes and everybody is mad. israel saudi arabia they're all mad. we're trying to help put in a stable government in yemen and you have eye ron and the houthi rebels and the pictures of all of these citizens holding up weapons and they're blaming us for it. you have what's going on with isis and we're trying to help which is what the fight for islam is and regional territory and now you have isis telling everyone to target us. where is the up side? >> we're uniquely positioned to come to terms with others around the world. no one can do what we can do. it gives us exposure to criticism and what we do. the up side is that we can, perhaps, shape the outcomes in these countries if we work hard and diligently and our people really do that around the world but it's not an easy slog. there's a lot of opposition violence and chaos in the world. the policies don't always look pretty and well packaged. they sometimes get messy and it's difficult to see them working well until a time comes when they go on the ground and

you put them into play having thought through the entire process and where it might take us. we need to do that now. >> we'll take you at your word because you were ambassador to yemen and you know what the place needs. thank you, ambassador seche. we've had a lot of breaking news this morning. we have more right now. senate minority leader harry reid will not seek re-election. the impact of this. what will it be on the 2016 elections and the senate moving forward? and we put you to work. we asked you for your questions on flight 9525. now we're going to get you some answers from our experts just ahead. ment. our teams collaborate around the world, which leads to better decisions for our clients. put our global active management expertise to work for you. mfs. there is no expertise without collaboration. my goal was to finally get in shape. not to be focusing again, on my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis.

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you're watching this breaking news on the flight 9525 investigation. german prosecutors say they found papers in the co-pilot's home documenting a medical problem. notably, they found a ripped up note from his doctor granting him a day off the day of the crash. we're also learning he was hiding his medical condition from his employer. these and other developments inviting so many questions. we've been asking you to send them in to us. we have an expert panel here to try to find you some answers. we have david soucie. along with justin green who we should point out is a private pilot and president of the international air. jewel yet kaye.

are you guys ready? >> ready. >> there will not be a test. thank you for sending them in. twitter, justin i'll put it to you about the news that the co-pilot deliberately adjusted the auto pilot trying to understand why auto pilot config would allow for a setting of 100 feet? >> on every flight you can fly an approach to the airport. you can fly auto pilot down to 100 feet and the pilots will take control. >> they fly auto pilot until that point? >> they can. they can. it's a pilot's choice. a pilot may take over controls earlier than that. very often it's the safest way to fly using the auto pilot rather than pilot control. that question raises a different issue is whether the airplane could be equipped with something, a safety device -- >> failing the calls, failing the air traffic control trying

to reach out in the case of emergency? >> airplanes have ground proximity warning systems. >> yeah. >> i guess what's going to be talked about is whether a ground proximity warning system can be tied to some sort of automatic system that would prevent the pilot from crashing the airplane. >> there is push back. they don't want to have the pilots put out of jobs. they don't want pilotless airplanes. >> here's another one from twitter. we've asked this since mh-370. why isn't black box voice recorder data transmitted to be recorded to a safe location. why wait until after the crash? >> exactly. >> closing the barn door. >> how do you answer that? it's archaic what we're doing. literally archaeology tools out there looking for these pieces of the airplane that have all that information in this protected device. now that's important to have. there's sometimes you don't have that connection to the streaming data so that has to be there. but nonetheless, to be able to transmit information. >> the push back is cost

effectiveness, how to equip all of the planes? >> partially. partially security. you wouldn't want a terrorist to have information about every airplane. creates a vulnerability. there are a lot of questions that go in here. in general, it has to be put in. i think we've started this. under the nextgen program, the adsb does give us information. we used it in this. the reason we know -- >> right. >> -- that that thing was turned to that 100 feet is because now we have the fourth did i mention. we used to know where it was laterally. >> we are making some progress. >> now we know where it is going. that is streaming data. >> another conversation we've been having a lot on "new day," for you juliette why not install cameras inside and outside? three-part. cameras inside the cockpit, outside the cockpit and changing the protocol. >> this is not a new debate. there has been at least for a decade a discussion about

putting cameras in the cockpit. there is a fight with the pilots unions et cetera. >> it's archaic that we don't have cameras in the cockpit even for an investigation purpose. a camera is not going to stop someone who's hell bent on killing 150 people. >> but it will answer a whole lot of questions. >> it does serve as a deterrent. how can technology help us in safety and security? this is actually one in which it will at least help us determine what happened and may serve as a deterrent and if someone's watching the cameras might trigger a response from ground control that could save lives. >> another point is it will bring the families a little bit closer coming to fruition. another question here. we'll put it to either of you, david or justin maybe perhaps justin. why isn't the pilot equipped with door overright from the outside in some sort of offense. a stun gun? slippery slope? >> the main reason that there's not an override beyond the i guess first level override is because they want to keep

terrorists out of the cockpit. >> sure. >> if you said oh, you can always get into the cockpit, the pilot goes to the bathroom could be forced to enter this override. that's the main reason. the stun gun issue really is -- raises a whole different question. some pilots actually are allowed to fly with handguns in the cockpit. >> in america? >> in america. and, you know i'd have to leave it to a security expert. >> david, do you have a thought on that? >> no. i was actually going back to the other part. we're good on it. we've covered everything. >> do you think the idea of giving the -- >> yes. yes. fingerprint i.d.s that would allow an authorized pilot with an authorized could pilote co-pilot to have a gun in the cockpit. various lines of defense. no single thing is going to protect us perfectly. >> there are those that say it could turn sideways. >> it could. so could anything. >> look at the cockpit door. we thought, oh, we've solved this problem. we're protecting the pilots. >> one last quick question

because i think there's a last one that bears considering today's news events if pilots suffer from mental health illness such as depression and are taking medication, are they considered fit to fly, david? >> it depends on which medical condition. there's medical conditions that affect their ability to be capable and execute their tasks. >> so it depends? not a simple answer on that one? >> that's right. thank you so much for all of you who have contributed your questions to us and thank you to the three of you very much. >> thank you. >> chris, over to you. developments in 9525 and developments in politics. democrats in the senate need a new leader. harry reid the man on your screen is deciding not to run for another term. why? we'll tell you. know your financial plan won't keep you up at night. know you have insights from professional investment strategists to help set your mind at ease. know that planning for retirement

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i have had time to ponder and to think, we've got to be more concerned about the country, the senate the state of nevada than us and as a result of that i am not going to run for re-election. my friend senator mcconnell don't be too elated. i'm going to be here for 22 months. >> that was senate minority

leader harry reid revealing that he will not seek re-election in 2016. the long-time democratic leader deciding against a sixth term. joining us is mark preston. high mark. >> hey, alisyn. >> so how big of a surprise is in? >> a big surprise. he's somebody alisyn who is somebody who did not want to be pushed out of office. he didn't want republicans who have made him the number one target heading into 2016 to try to tell him that they were going to defeat him. as you can see in the picture, harry reid has had some health issues of late and, in fact he had an accident recently where he got pretty banged up. i think harry reid made the calculated decision that it was time for him to step down alisyn but he also made a point in the video to say that he didn't want all of the democratic resources going to him when democrats could potentially take back the senate in 2016. >> it's interesting because he

does look banged up and he has looked banged up since the exercise injury in january. he says in the announcement the decision that i've made has absolutely nothing to do with my injury. so do we not really believe him? >> you know in fact i think, you know he says that but i do believe that he has had some kind of coming to jesus moment so to speak, about what his life and what his career has been. what he doesn't say in the video is that his wife was also involved in an accident a couple of years ago that was kind of life changing as well. i think he probably looked at the road ahead. he has several grand children right now. when you are the democratic leader in the senate you spend all your time here in washington. you're always trying to cut deals, push through barack obama's agenda. i think he looked at the road ahead and said to himself, it's probably time to spend -- you know this was a life changing moment. i should spend time with my family. >> in fact he does say having had down time because of that injury has sort of made him want more down time. harry reid said he's been in congress for three decades. he's been a polarizing figure

for some. he has done some controversial things some controversial procedural changes that he's made. what will the response be? >> no surprise we'll see glowing ak could he lagss fromaccolations and others will say he was a bad steward. we're looking at the conclusion of president barack obama's time in office he owes a lot to harry reid for helping him push through some very controversial issues including health care. had harry reid not taken the stand that he had taken and really helped obama push through health care perhaps we wouldn't have seen health care get passed as well as some other issues. so i think when you look at the long term yes, harry reid did govern the u.s. senate with an iron fist. he certainly made a lot of enemies including within his own party, alisyn. the fact of the matter is he was a key ally for president barack

obama. >> he is considered a great tactician. he's considered a great strategist, but he of course -- and he also is sort of an unabashed controversial person. he takes his positions and he defends them in that pugnacious way because he's a former boxer. who will take on his role now moving forward? >> well if you can even imagine that somebody perhaps more pugnacious might slip into that spot and that's charles schumer, the new york senator. he is already making phone calls. our colleague charles zonay says chuck schumer has been eyeing that for some time now. he's making phone calls saying he's interested in it. it would be interesting to see if chuck schumer does win, you know the democratic leader's slot you would see this incredible power shift to new york given are the fact that schumer is from there. another person is the whip dick durbin from illinois. now durbin has been harry reid's white hand man and has been

running the senate floor for many years. schumer has come in and supplanted him. >> interesting to watch the musical chairs begin already. mark preston, thanks so much for all of that insight. >> thanks. >> makes you think about who would want that job. let's see what happens. so religious freedom, that's what america is all about, right? a law that protects you from having to do things against your faith, that's a good thing, right? what if that law means you can refuse to serve gays at your restaurant? a new indiana law won't do that says the governor who signed it but many disagree. we debate. you decide. "ride away" (by roy orbison begins to play) ♪ i ride the highway... ♪ ♪ i'm going my way... ♪ ♪i leave a story untold... ♪ he just keeps sending more pictures... if you're a free-range chicken you roam free. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance

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under a media blackout you can judge for yourself why that was done indiana governor mike pence signed a religious freedom bill that could allow businesses to refuse to serve gays based on their faith. is this about belief or bigotry? here to discuss, he's author of several books. it's not over getting beyond tolerance, defeating homophobia. it seems like you were quite the casandra on that predicting this. let's give the governor his due. he says that this law is an extension of the federal law of federal religion protection that

grew out of the hobby lobby case. we all remember that. this is what the governor says governor pence, about why this law should not be feared. >> this legislation restricts government action. it doesn't apply to disputes between private parties unless government action is involved. >> all right. for the sake of our discussion mike i will suggest the governor's position on this. what is your problem with what he said? >> well he is distorting exactly how far reaching this law is. there are 19 states that have religious restoration freedom acts many of them -- all of them really, are -- except for mississippi which recently passed one are about really protecting employees and their religious discrimination. this takes off from hobby lobby and really just gives the employer carte blanche to deny services to people in a business perhaps fire people

from jobs. >> he says it's only state action. that would be private action. that would be you know this is just about the government making your business sell contraceptives when you're a christian and you're against it. >> but it's about allowing them to say, we don't serve gays we don't allow gays in here. we're not going to service this particular event. we don't like that these two people are nuzzling they're holding hands in our store. we don't like that. you can't come in here. >> why does this law apply to that if the governor says it only applies to state action then couldn't the business not claim protection under this law because that's not a state action that's two people doing what people in love do? >> no. actually, there's no law in indiana that protects gay people or transgender people against discrimination in public accommodations. >> why would this law protect a business? if i go into the restaurant and the restaurant owner doesn't like how we're behaving with each other, they say get out, how does this law protect them?

>> this allows them to say my religious belief says i don't -- i cannot bear to have you in here. i cannot bear to accept serving you. that would go against my religious belief. therefore you have to go to another business. the argument is you can go to another business down the street but in many small towns there is no other business down the street. it is literally saying you can't be served here in the way we saw with african-americans during jim crow. >> so you're saying the government governor's did he have nation saying this only involves state law, you're saying that's not what it's about? >> we willll no matter whether it's state action or federal action it is the state engaging in or allowing businesses to engage in discrimination and turn people away when the state should be about protecting people all people from discrimination. >> he says i understand your

concern. that would be violating discriminating against a protected glass. i get it. that's not what this law is. this law is when the government passes a law that a private owner of a business who has religious beliefs doesn't like they don't have to follow it. your scenario doesn't fit. >> well he is really broadening what the protection is for religious people in this country. gay people are not protected under title 7 of the civil rights act. there are no protections for gay people. there are protections for people on the basis of religion but not to discriminate against other people on that basis. so you can't say on the basis of religion my religion doesn't like african-americans, i'm not going to serve them. >> they are a protected class under title 7. >> gays are not. >> race color, creed but not lgbt? >> that's right. we have no federal law in this country and we have only a handful of states that have these laws.

29 states do not protect gays from discrimination and that is where this law does come into play. indiana is not one of them. >> last thing, this conversation is an extension of something you saw coming a few years ago. your book "it's not over," you talk about, yes, the big marriage battle is somewhat over. we'll see what happens with the supreme court, but there are a lot of other implicit biases out there. is this what you were worried about? >> absolutely. what we're seeing antigay forces do is rebrand their bigotry to make it more acceptable. we've seen this happen with african-americans. they go for the issue and with women. they go for the issue that they think will be broader to the public so this sounds like well a business shouldn't have to do something they don't believe according to their religious beliefs. when i was at one of the conferences doing a lot of research i went to the conservative political action conference one of the antigay leaders said if we lose we'll

look for the gay version of the partial birth abortion. that is how they're rebranding. >> just still raises the same question why is there so much concern about how others choose to love. all right. we're going to be right back after this. thank you very much to you. >> thank you, chris. >> the book again "it's not over," an interesting one. to be clear, we're not just talk to go signorile. we offered to governor pence. we come back. it's been a long week. how about some goode stuff. snap. take a photo of your project or just tell us what you need done... ...and angie's list will find a top-rated provider to do the job. start your project for free today.

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encourage other dads not to be scared. now 9,000 followers. >> that's great. >> well done. >> thank you very much. >> that was better. >> it's hard. he has that nice smooth head. a lot of news this morning. let's get you to a special edition of the "newsroom" with anderson cooper. >> good morning. thank you so much for joining us. this is cnn breaking news. and a good morning to you. i'm anderson cooper. welcome to our viewers in the united states and watching around the world. this morning, new evidence that andreas lubitz should never have been in the cockpit on tuesday when he plowed the germanwings airliner into the french alps. just a short time ago they