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okay. but one other thing, ever hear of bounty hunters? she could be kidnapped, taken to another jurisdiction and then sent back. >> you think the italians are going to do this -- >> they may hire an american bounty hunter. >> so fascinating. always a twist and turn to this case. thank you, everyone. stay tuned. my colleague wolf takes over right now. hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 6:00 p.m. in dusseldorf. 8:00 p.m. in sanaa, yemen. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. up first, unfit to work those words may shed some light on why the co-pilot of germanwings flight 9525 crashed the plane into a mountain. prosecutors say that conclusion is based on documents found in andreas lubitz's apartment. >> translator: we have found a
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letter that indicated that he was declared by a medical doctor unfit to work. >> investigators say they found medical excuse notes that had been ripped up, including one for the day of the crash. they're not saying what the illness was. but they say the evidence does indicate lubitz was trying to hide that evidence. we're also learning more about what investigators didn't find in his apartment or in his family's home. no good-bye letter or suicide note no evidence that his actions were driven by politics or religion. also today, lufthansa, that's the parent company of the germanwings airliner announced that it had adopted a new rule. it now requires two people to be in the cockpit at all times. let's sort out the latest on the investigation with our experts. here in washington our law enforcement analyst, the former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and our aviation analyst, peter goelz, former ntsb managing director. joining us from new york our
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aviation correspondent richard quest. we don't know if it was a mental or physical issue, do we? they're trying to figure that out. but they've been so transparent over the past few days we should know pretty soon right? >> well we're in the midst of the privacy laws of germany, which are far stricter in many ways. that's one of the reasons we don't know. the german media is talking about anxiety. it's talking about depression. it's talking about some form of mental illness or mental incapacity in some way, various levels. but we've not got any confirmation of that. so let's be quite clear. we do know that there was a diagnosis so he did go to a university medical center and there was a diagnosis. we know there were several sick notes to get him off work including one for tuesday chd
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been ripped up and were found in the garbage can of his apartment. we know there was this diagnosis, this illness but we don't know what and we'll wait to see how they circumvent the laws or at least manage to do justice to the laws so that they can release what it was. >> the laws over there are obviously a bit different than they are here in the united states. tom fuentes, you're a former fbi assistant director. i've been impressed with how quickly they're developing this case right now. we're learning so much on a day-to-day -- sometimes hour-to-hour basis. >> they're able to say so much more publicly about it because they're not worried about protecting a defendants' right before a prosecution. he's not going to be prosecuted. they can be forthright about what they're finding. we'll see. the german investigation obtained the documents yesterday. french police have transported those documents to marseilles today. we'll see if that prosecutor speaks out today on what they found. >> i want to go to dusseldorf
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for the latest on what's going on over there. will ripley is outside the family home over there. will what are you learning about this situation? obviously a very sad situation, a very dramatic situation. it seems to be releasing new information on as i said, an hourly basis. unfortunately, i think we've not been able to connect with will ripley. but we will as soon as we reconnect that audio. peter, if the u.s. were in charge of this investigation, would we know as much about what happened so quickly? >> no we'd be much more reticent in -- i think tom is right. we have no suspect or criminal to prosecute. but we would be much more reticent to release this kind of information so quickly. it would take weeks, if not more than that. >> they still haven't found the flight data recorder. they got the cockpit voice
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recorder where they've come up with the evidence of what was going on the door was locked he was trying to get back in and the co-pilot wouldn't let him back in. once we find that flight data recorder, what else will we learn? >> it will confirm exactly what steps the co-pilot took to drive the plane into the ground. it will show, i think, a very deliberate step-by-step plan that is going to show a lot of premeditation. he was thinking about this for a long time. >> what else do we know richard, about this individual this co-pilot 28 years old, apparently he was well-liked. he seemed to have a relatively normal friendship with a lot of people out there. if he did have severe mental problems we don't know if he did, they apparently were hidden to his colleagues and friends. >> absolutely. that's spot-on. we can divide his life if you like, into several sections. you've got the growing up in his
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hometown where we hear he was quiet, well-liked seemingly a normal child growing up. and then you have this period where he goes to the flying school which is close to where he lived. and there they say he was a man who was totally dedicated to his gliding and his flying. and he was absolutely delighted when he was able to finally achieve his dream job of becoming an airline pilot. in the middle of that wolf you get this training period where we know that he went to lufthansa's training academy in phoenix, arizona, having taken a six-month gap or several-month gap for an undisclosed reason. and then finally you get him to a point where he's offered and given a job as a first officer at germanwings in 2013. and, wolf, this is interesting because those who know him then say he was quiet, he was well-liked. those who flew with him are
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believed to say there was nothing particularly out of the ordinary. listening to what tom was saying, in short, so far, nobody has come up with the -- that comment that says i always thought there was something strange about lubitz. we haven't heard that yet. >> but the doctor apparently said he was unfit to work those were the specific words -- >> absolutely. >> we've re-established our connection with will ripley in dusseldorf outside the family home. those words are powerful words, will. tell us how they came about, the basis, the evidence for this conclusion from this doctor that he supposedly was unfit to work. >> reporter: wolf police have been out here throughout the day. officers are still guarding the apartment of lubitz, it's the white building behind me on the top floor. this is a quiet neighborhood this is a shock to the people who live here. as we've gone around the neighborhood talking to people this young man, as you were
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saying outwardly at least appeared as if everything was going well in his life. and yet inside that apartment, investigators say they found evidence these medical notes that were torn up and thrown in a trash can in the apartment that showed that lubitz had been receiving treatment for what was described as an illness. now, we're hearing from the university medical center here in dusseldorf saying that in fact while they acknowledge that this young man, 27 years old, was brought in for treatment, he went in in february and then went in again on march 10th to get his diagnosis, they specifically say that he was not being treated for depression although we need to keep in mind just because it's not depression there's a whole host of other conditions both mental or physical that are a factor here and that's certainly something that investigators are looking at very closely here. >> have they said will whether or not he was on any specific medications?
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>> reporter: no word of any medications because aside from saying that this is not a depression condition, they are citing patient confidentiality laws here in germany that are not allowing them to release more information. we know very little other than the fact that it is being said that it was not depression this illness he was being treated for apparently since at least february not depression according to the clinic here in dusseldorf. >> we'll see if we can find out why they did conclude that he was unfit to work. we have a lot of news coming in. up next, the plane's flight data recorders. it's still missing. the importance of the information it potentially holds. and later we'll answer your questions about the crash. 134i9 submit them on twitter. hey, you forgot the milk! that's lactaid®. right. 100% real milk just without the lactose.
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the crash of germanwings flight 9525 into the french alps left crash scene investigators with a daunting, daunting task. in this image, take a look at this. you can see different parts of the plane which have been located so far in a debris field scattered over an area said to be larger than a square mile treacherous, mountainous terrain at an altitude of 5,500 feet with no access roads. right now, helicopters and hiking equipment are the only way to access the area. our pam joins us once again to discuss this search. our law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes and aviation analyst peter goelz. peter, the sheer size of this area and the fact that this huge plane crashed into this mountain at 400 miles an hour it shattered into so many pieces when i said daunting that's an
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understatement. >> it is an understatement. they will desperately try to identify what they call the four corners of the plane. the two wings, the nose and the tail and then try and start to lay the shattered pieces out on a grid. but, boy, i don't think they're going to get very far with that because they'll have some pieces. but i don't think there's much you're going to be able to pick up from the devastation. >> because normally -- you've been involved in a lot of these crash scenes. they try to reassemble a plane to try to learn what happened. in this particular case you don't think they'll be able to do that? >> i don't think so. we know what happened. the guy locked the door and flew the plane into the mountain. you may want to recover the door but i don't think there's a lot of investigative knowledge that can be gained by spending the resources and the time to reconstruct this. what you want to do is spend your resources on recovering the
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victims' remains and doing the dna that's going to be required to identify all of them. >> one quick question on the dna, will they be able to determine, assuming they find his dna, what kind of medication he might have been taking at that time? >> that's a very difficult question. you can't imagine the destructive force of an accident like this. and remember he was sitting in the front of the plane. they may find simply -- if they find anything it may be just traces. >> what are investigators looking for now in his apartment, in his family home? >> for his mental condition and profile. they're going to want to know his relationships, his financial situation, his work situation. everything about him that might cause him to do something drastic like he's done. and oftentimes with a person at his age, oftentimes, relationships matter. boyfriend, girlfriend -- >> but there was no suicide
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note no what they call good-bye note. >> he could have been driving to the airport to go to work and gotten a phone call that said it's over, not seeing you anymore, that could have added to the mental situation he would have already been in. >> but we'll have to hear more about this medical condition because it's a persistent condition. he didn't catch a cold and go to the doctor. they're talking about multiple notes over a longer period of time. what kind of persistent chronic condition did he have? >> they're saying now it was not depression. there could be obviously a lot of other causes. but depression -- you heard that report from will ripley that depression is apparently not something he was suffering from. >> and the investigators so far have been very careful about putting out information. for instance even in the very first press conference, they indicated it was not a decompression event. they gave us hints. so i think here they're trying
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to stop the speculation before it goes off track. so i think we can take that as pretty good guidance. >> guys, stand by. we have a lot more coming up. much more on the crash n. french alps. also the deadline for reaching a nuclear deal with iran is fast approaching. up next my interview with the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, bob corker. i'll ask him if he thinks a deal is possible and if a deal is announced, will it be accepted by the united states senate? gging tight, swirling left and turning right. behold, new venus swirl. the only razor with five contour blades and a flexiball. to contour to your tricky places, bends and all. going this way and that. bumps and grooves, curvy and flat. for skin as flawless as can be. new venus swirl. and try new venus with a touch of olay with five times more moisturizers most of the products we all buy are
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back to our coverage of the breaking news on that germanwings crash in the french
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alps. that's coming up in a few moments. but another important story we're following, the deadline is fast approaching for the framework of the nuclear deal with iran. the french foreign minister says tehran needs to make a new effort to get a deal. let's bring in tennessee republican senator bob corker he's the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. mr. chairman thanks very much for coming in. i know you're being briefed by the administration. deal or no deal? what do you think? >> actually, you would be surprised how little briefing is taking place. >> why would they not be briefing you? you're the chairman of the foreign relations committee. >> so many people in a bipartisan way want to make sure that congress has the ability to weigh in, at least on the congressional sanctions if a deal is reached. everyone wants to see a good deal achieved. what you'll see over the next period of time is the announcement of a political arrangement, meaning that it doesn't have all the details. i think everyone understands the
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important elements are all the classified annexes that come with this that really give you insights as to how much transparency is going to exist, are we going to have the ability to detect covert programs? are we going to understand where their research and development is going? are we going to know what their previous military dimensions were? we know they were moving towards a bomb at one point in time. those are the important elements -- >> i assume they have to share all that information with the chairman of the foreign relations committee -- >> at some point. it's been an amazing thing. we've all -- again, we want to see a good deal one that creates stability in the region. but as you see what the white house is doing, they're obviously moving away from israel towards a relationship with iran. and it's very apparent to me what they're trying to achieve is a balance of power between the shia sides and the more sunni-oriented sides and a way for them to extract themselves out of the middle east.
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the missing component here is that iran has not changed its behavior. we're seeing right now what's happening in yemen. we know that if we make a bad deal and they actually get to a place where they're one screwdriver turn away from having a nuclear weapon it creates proliferation possibly in the region. but the other thing is they'll have the ability, their economy will be growing, they'll have access to the $130 billion right now that's trapped overseas to even more fully destabilize the region. >> because financially this will be bonanza if that $130 billion is freed up to go into their coffers. but that's a serious suggestion or accusation you're making that the obama administration wants to move away from the longstanding support, relationship with israel and sees iran as a substitute for israel. is that what you're saying? >> it's obviously that the relationship with israel is diminishing, to a degree. i'm not saying totally turning its back. but it's moving more towards an
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iranian-dominated relationship to create a balance of power. you're seeing that happen right now. and, again, hil in a textbook that might be interesting. what you're not seeing from iran's standpoint is a change in behavior. you're seeing just the opposite. as a matter of fact what you're seeing is them being more in the face of the sunni population there. you're seeing the head of the quds force becoming more of a celebrity. >> as concerned as the israelis are, the saudis a lot of the sunni arab states are equally concerned about this potential deal. >> no question. it's fascinating. you wake up in the mornings and here we are in iraq helping make iraq a better place for iran. we're working with them right now in tikrit in a loose way. and on the flip side of that in yemen where we know iran is supporting the houthis that are
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creating the destabilizing efforts that are taking place right now on the saudi side of that it's almost like -- i know this is a little bit trite, but it's almost like they say, i have friends on both sides. but it's confusing as to where the united states is today in the region. >> you have a problem if the administration don't see this deal as a treaty which would require senate h ratification. do you have a problem if they go to the united states security council for ratification first and then go to the united states senate and say, all of those sanctions that you imposed, you now take a vote on easing those sanctions? >> here's the issue. we respect the fact that the administration has the right to do whatever they wish with the u.n. security council sanctions that were imposed on iran. that's an executive activity. we respect the fact that there are executive sanctions they put in place. but you know this well. congress put in place a whole host of congressionally mandated
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sanctions that really brought iran to the table. so what we're saying is look we want a good deal negotiated. but before you start unraveling the ones that congress put in place, we want to make sure that you show us the deal. that we have access to those classified annexes. that we understand how we'll have accountability and enforceability and transparency. we want to know those things are going to exist. and before you alleviate our sanctions which means the entire sanctions regime basically unravels we want to be able to say grace over that. i think that's a responsible place for the united states senate and i would think that the administration if they're going to do a deal that will stand the test of time move beyond their administration they would want buy-in from the american people. we represent the american people. >> are you okay they say this is not a treaty and it doesn't require a formal senate roll call vote? >> i appreciate their position and believe that the position that we've taken representing the american people is also the appropriate place and that is
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again, for us to be able to vote up or down before they start moving away from the sanctions that we put in place. i think that is an appropriate balance. >> i think they're going to be with you on that part on the sanctions -- >> i don't think they're with us now. let me say this i think we're going to pass a deal. chuck schumer, likely the next senate minority leader came on last night as a co-sponsor while we were doing budget negotiations. i do think we are going to pass a piece of legislation that gives congress that ability to weigh in on behalf of the american people. >> senator corker, we'll continue this conversation. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, sir. >> bob corker chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. coming up, back to our top story. a doctor now declaring that the germanwings co-pilot andreas lubitz was unfit to fly. what does that mean? what impact could it have on the
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prosecutors say other documents reveal the 27-year-old had a medical illness that he hid from his employers. investigators also found torn-up medical excuse notes. >> translator: we've secured documents that indicate a medical illness. we also found sick notes that were torn to pieces. among the sick notes was one which covered the day of the crash. we assume the deceased kept his illness secret from his employer. >> in another major development, lufthansa, the parent company of germanwings, and other airlines now around the world have adopted a new rule. they now require two people to be in the cockpit at all times. let's get a closer look at the co-pilot's medical condition. with us peter goelz, former managing director of the ntsb also joining us the clinical psychologist, dr. ruth wintersgreen. she also served in the united states air force.
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ruth, thanks very much for joining us. peter, glad to have you as well. this declaration by a medical doctor unfit to work we're now learning that they're saying in germany he was not suffering from depression. so what else could have caused a doctor let's say, to say he's unfit to work? >> first of all, we don't know if this was a psychiatrist psychologist or -- >> we only know it was a medical doctor. it could be a physical or emotionalal al-- you're a psychologist. if he's not suffering from depression -- this is hypothetical -- what potentially could he have been suffering from? >> any number of things. anxiety, ptsd it could be his being very upset, disturbed by a break-up. speaking from an emotional standpoint. but also i wouldn't rule out given the seriousness of the act that it was life-threatening or
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disabling medical condition that he was facing that generated a great deal of anger. >> and that he hid from his employers. >> yes. >> you've dealt with pilots. you served in the u.s. air force and have given cowensinglingunseling pilots. >> it's an enormously stressful job. most handle it very well. but it is something that probably most could benefit from occasional intermittent psycho psychotherapy is many of us could in stressful, demanding position. >> but the problem is correct me if i'm wrong, sometimes if they let their employer know they're suffering from these psychological issues that could be a career ender. >> exactly. and i think that's a possible benefit in this tragedy, would be to change the attitudes about seeking mental health care for the interest of public safety. considering medications is one issue.
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that i'm not going to address so much. but psychotherapy really doesn't have any negative side effects. >> the issue of medication say we determine -- they find out what medications he may have been taking. is it possible those medications could have caused this kind of tragedy? >> that's probably a remote -- if used as prescribed that's a pretty remote possibility. >> as prescribed, key words. >> as prescribed. one thought that i had had in evaluating this case prior to being interviewed was -- and prior to the things that have come out over the course of today is that if he were sleep-deprived one problem that i have seen in individuals in various stressful occupations where there's sleep deprivation is sleep deprivation plus the use of amphetamines or an extreme amount of caffeine can lead to psychosis. but i don't think a typical
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anti-anxiety medication would cause this kind of behavior. >> peter, when you were at the ntsb you did a lot of investigations of these crashes and got a look at the records of pilots and co-pilots. you hear this kind of conversation. what goes through your mind? >> we do. i hope there is a national reassessment of how pilots -- and it is a stressful job. how pilots can seek help without putting their careers in jeopardy. i work with pilot unions. i work with flight attendant unions. and the idea of showing weakness or showing that you have a problem really is a threatening thing when they feel as though their career is on the line. and they tend not to do it. and the medical check-ups that they have each year are not rigorous enough. for the same reason. >> ruth peter, we'll continue our conversation. we're getting new information. stand by for that. we're also following this other story involving the u.s. relationship with iran as we
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much more on the plane crash in the frens alps. plus your questions about the investigation in just a few minutes. but there's developing news in the middle east with yemen, saudi arabia and iran. the u.s.' partners and iran are nearing a deadline for that so-called framework, a nuclear deal. here in "the situation room," i spoke with the saudi arabian ambassador to the united states about the deal. listen listen. >> we hope this pans out. everybody wants a peaceful
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solution to iran's nuclear program but it has to be a verifiable agreement. and we're just as concerned about the interference by iran in the affairs of other countries in the region whether it's iraq syria, lebanon, yemen and other parts. we believe that iran's behavior does not -- is not reassuring to people in the region. >> let's talk about the nuclear options, saudi air strikes under way in yemen right now. joining us from new york our cnn global affairs analyst, bobby ghosh, managing editor of quartz. also joining us terrorism analyst, paul cruickshank. and from little rock arkansas retired general wesley clark, author of the new book "don't wait for the next war." general clark, you heard senator corker a few minutes ago right here on cnn, he's the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, say he's concerned the obama administration in effect is trying to rearrange the u.s. relationships in throughout the middle east
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weaken israel to a certain degree and strengthen iran i'm paraphrasing. but you're reaction? >> i don't think that's the case. i think what the obama administration is trying to do is reduce the geostrategic conflict throughout the region. and that's to everyone's benefit if we can do this. we had before 1978-'79 we had a great relationship with iran. there are a lot of positive pro-american feelings there. saudi arabia is our longtime friend and ally. we used to look at the middle east as two pillars, both saudi arabia and iran were u.s. allies. so if we could get back to that and obviously maintain a strong israel and deal with the conflict in syria, all those things are positive. but we can't put ground troops in. we have to work on the margins. we have to work through diplomacy, economic assistance and where we can, military support. that's what the obama administration is doing. it's a tough, tough strategy to
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follow. >> bobby ghosh the administration clearly would like to see a positive spin-off from this emerging nuclear deal and see iran become a more constructive partner, shall we say, or player throughout the region. a lot of people are saying that's simply wishful thinking on the part of some obama administration officials. your thoughts? >> yeah, i would tend to agree with those people. i think it is very much wishful thinking. the obama administration is hoping that iran once these sanctions are removed will take the money and help build an economy, free their people give people more opportunities and there will be economic reforms to follow. all iran wants is the money. they're not promising any of these other things. they've been blunt and clear about what they want. they want to expand their influence in the middle east. we are seeing that with every step they do. we can't blame the iranians in the future of hiding their intentions. they're being very clear. it's we or the administration that is taking the view that
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oh things are not what they seem. things are better than they appear to be. >> paul you also heard senator corker of the foreign relations committee say the iranians are about to get, if this deal goes through and these sanctions are eased, about $180 billion pretty quickly -- that's a lot of money for iran. have you seen any evidence and you study terrorism right now, that iran is reducing its support for international terrorism, the state department considers iran to be a state sponsor of terror? >> well that's the sort of $64,000 question whether iran is going to be more pragmatic in the future if there is some kind of nuclear deal. obviously the hope would be that they would be more pragmatic in the future that they would reduce the money going to terrorist groups like hezbollah and that they would try and persuade groups like hezbollah not to get involved in these kind of international terror operations. hezbollah has been accused of several operations even in
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europe even in bulgaria. so that all remains to be seen, wolf. >> what about what's going on right now, general clark, in yemen? the saudis have put together a coalition with egypt, jordan the united arab emirates qatar bahrain. they're clearly trying to go in there and fight what they regard as iranian proxies, these shiite houthi rebels. it looks like a proxy war, if you will. >> it is a proxy war. but this is going to be a very tough problem for saudi arabia and egypt to solve because they're not in that country. and their troops even though they may speak arabic they're foreign troops in that country. this is one more example of stirring the pot. it's going to likely provoke continuing iranian efforts to defend what they see as their interests through the shia population. it's going to likely involve some other threats to the saudi system -- let's say in bahrain,
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through the shia in bahrain or maybe even difficulties in the gulf-rich eastern province of saudi arabia where there's a large shia population. so the saudis are well aware of this. they know what can happen. they see this as their vital interest. but it's going to be a very tough fight. >> the saudis are nervous about a lot that's going on bobby. as you well know, last night, i interviewed the saudi ambassador to the united states and i specifically asked him a few times if you don't like this deal that the u.s. and other members of the security council and germany are putting together with iran could that lead to saudi arabia developing its own nuclear bomb? and i pressed him. and he refused to rule it out. he just didn't want to discuss that. but a lot of people are worried if the saudis don't like this deal and some other countries, egypt, for example, they may go that nuclear route as well. what do you say? >> the saudis are allowed to enrich uranium at the moment
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because they're members of the nonproliferation treaty. whether they'll go all the way towards getting a bomb themselves or turn to their traditional allies in these matters, which is pakistan the saudi military and the pakistani military are quite close, in recent days quite senior pakistani generals have visited the saudi arabia saudi arabia, they have that option. sure if they believe the iranians are going to break out and make a dash for nuclear weapons, the saudis are going to want it whether they want their own or whether they want pakistan's we'll see. >> they're calling it a war in yemen right now. bobby, paul general, always good to have all of you here on cnn. up next, much more on the deliberate crash in the french alps. we'll answer your questions. should it be required to alert an airline if one of the pilots is considered to be unfit to fly? stay with us.
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the pilot's employer if medically unsafe to fly? >> that's a good question. the annual review pilots have is relooked at. we have to take it more seriously. >> here's a question for ruth from derrick. why don't airlines have their own doctors so they can report pilot's health or doctors who report to airlines? >> this is an important question. when i was in the military deciding thinking of whether i wanted to be a psychologist in the military or not, outside the military. this changed -- this turned my decision because the kind of foundation of psycho therapy of clinical psychology is confidentiality. the if there's clear and intended victim if someone is expressing intent to harm the terosof act indicates we report
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and warn the victims. in the absence of that there's gray area. the problem having someone associated with their work evaluating is people won't tell. people won't come forward. >> they will be afraid if they think this is a career ender. they'll lose their jobs. tom, this is from mark. why not design a cockpit with a bathroom food station, et cetera? remove the reasons a pilot would leave the cockpit? >> that's a great idea. put a window they could slide food or coffee trays into them. or equip with depend underwear. >> one underwear does that? >> that's right. ll has a version of that. there's a center piece passengers can't access pilots can get up and leave without contact with the cabin.
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>> the israeli airlines are under security issues as well. ruth do you know if pilots routinely go through drug screening? you served in the air force. i'm sure they do there. regulations change. i'm not sure what types of medications they test for. my concern would be extreme caffeine use and energy drinks with someone sleep deprived or in a terrible emotional state could trigger an event. >> we're going to continue these questions here on cnn. we are getting a ton on twitter from viewers. that was from jodi perry. stand by. we've got news coming up about what led up to bowe bergdahl's disappearance in afghanistan. there's new information coming up.
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. we're getting details about army sergeant bowe bergdahl this the moments leading up to his disappearance in afghanistan in 2009. let's get to barbara starr. what are you finding out? >> quick update. the army investigation report including claims by bergdahl he left the base in 2009 because he wanted to walk to the nearest u.s. military outpost in afghanistan and report what he
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believed to be poor leadership poor leader and discipline in his unit. he left the base to find outpost to report that. that's the claim in the report of what bergdahl has told investigators. this may be the first indication we have of the bergdahl defense of what happened why he left the base why he says he left the base. whether it proves to be valid, whether it proves to be any acceptable defense to the u.s. military justice system which has now charged him with desertion. all of that remains to be seen in the legal proceedings against bergdahl. we're hearing what his intent was. he felt poor discipline and order in his unit. he was walking to the next unit in the middle of taliban country to try and report it. that's the claim. >> still he was charged with desertion. a lot of people in the u.s.
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military didn't necessarily believe him. much more coming up later today as well. barbara, thank you. that's it for me. back at 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. cnn news center coming up next for international viewers. for viewer unless north america "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. hi there. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching special breaking news coverage of the downing of germanwings flight 9525 as the world on this friday is reeling from the news investigators believe it was the co-pilot who deliberately took down this plane killing himself and everyone on board. today, another shocking development. here's what we know. medical documents showing there was something wrong with this 27-year-old co-pilot man by the name of andreas lubitz and confirmation he knew something is was wrong. police