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you're in the situation room. disturbing new details emerging. he deliberately crashed the airliner into a mountain killing all on board. they confirmed he was treated for suicidal tendencies. that was years ago before his aviation career. there's no resent evidence of that or the physical condition. an eye doctor has said to have ruled out a vision problem. at the same time officials are not disputing a shocking leaked version of the cockpit audio transcript. they reveal the long minutes of terror as the captain tries to get back in the locked cockpit and screaming passengers realize what's about to take place. >> analyst and guest are all standing by. let's go live to cnn's will with

the latest. will. >> wolf tonight there are stunning flu developmentnew developments in this investigation. we're learning more about the severe problems this co-pilot has been dealing with years before he became a pilot. >> a chilling glimpse of andreas in a cockpit seven years ago as they confirmed mental health problems in his past. >> he had at that time been in treatment of a psycho therapist because of what is documented as being

being suicidal. >> lubitz clearly had medical problems. a doctor declared lubitz was unfit the work on the day of the crash in part because he complained of vision problems diagnosed as being psycho systematic. >> we don't have any documentation that says regarding his site that this is caused by an organic illness. >> investigators are pouring over evidence including materials seized from lubitz's home. they haven't found notes or confession to plans to bring down the plaeb. tonight authorities aren't disputing a disturbing new time line of the crash though they won't confirm to details either. the german newspaper publishing a summary of the audio of flight 9525's cockpit voice recorder. according to the report the

captain told lubitz soon after take off he hadn't gone to the bathroom in barcelona. he said go any time. the plane reached cruising altitude and the captain asked lubitz to prepare for landing and he repeats you can go now and the captain is heard getting up saying you can take over. the cockpit door is locked lubitz is alone and reprograms the auto pilot to take the jet straight towards the alps. air traffic control tries to contact the plane after detecting the aircraft's descent. no answer. an alarm goes off warning. 10:35 noises as though somebody was trying to knock the door down. warning terrain pull up.

this time the captain yells open the damn door. at 10:38 the sound of lubitz breathing. more passengers scream. the report says those are the last sounds on the recording as the jet goes down and is obliterated. >> tonight here in germany, wolf investigators are horrified that the transcript of the cockpit recording was late because the families had to learn their loved ones on the plane 149 innocent people were helpless and aware something was seriously wrong for a full eight mens from the time the captain started banging on the door. just horrifying details, wolf. >> there may be a lot of leaks coming to the news media about what happened. the prosecutors official sources, they're giving out a lot of public information. certainly more than we would get here in the united states from the national transportation

safety board in the aftermath of a crash like this. is that normal? are they use to giving out so much information so quickly to the public out there? >> they're doing that in part because there's been so many leaks and news outlets paying sources for information so there's been a lot of information flooding out and investigators are trying to get ahead of it and confirm or deny facts that are out there whether they're accurate or not because you're right. there has been so much some of it true, some of it not. all of it extremely upsetting for the people involved the people closest to this the families. >> good point you're making. some of the news organizations are willing to pay people for this information. thank you. at the crash site today, bad weather slowed and complicated recovery complications. direct path to the wreckage isn't complete yet. road builders have about a hundred yards to go.

78 of the 150 people have been identified. some bodies may never be found we're told. cnn's carl is joining us from the crash site with more. what else can you tell us carl? >> the good news is tonight, wolf, the mayor says it could be ready as soon as tomorrow. that will smooth things up because it will enable alter rain vehicles and recovery teams to get into the crash site and bring out human remains and frackments frack fragments of the plane. the weather very windy and flying has been treacherous. the other thing as you point out, there may be less consolation for some families because already the forensic teams say the speed of the crash was perhaps some of the bodies

were pulverized and relatives may get nothing back to give a descent burial too. this afternoon, a small eight man team arrived on site experienced in rescue and recovery. we're seeing what they will have assigned to them and we're also awaiting the arrival of two german rescue helicopters. >> they still haven't found the flight data recorder. they have the cockpit voice recorder but the other black box they haven't found, right? >> >>. >> they have found no sign of that again as we know looking at the cockpit voice recorder that was severely mangled and it could be that the data recorder has been spread somewhere else along the hillside. also when i hiked up the area a few days ago the sides are rocky and shaky. i'm wonder with the speed of the impact may be data recorder be

buried somewhere under the rock and that will take a lot longer to find, wolf. >> carl on the scene for us. a gruesome operation recovery continuing. we're just getting in new information now. more about the co-pilot andreas lubitz. let's go to pamela brown. she's joining us live from his hometown in germany. i understand there's an annual exam all the pilots are required to pass. do we know if he did in fact have any vision problems? >> reporter: here's what we learned. he passed the annual exam this past summer. his vision was thoroughly checked as part of that exam. we're told if he was having vision issues as a result of a psycho systematic order it wouldn't have shown up. he had to fill out an exam. are you taking medications? have you attempted suicide? do you have any psychological

diseases? he says he never reported any issues mental health issues physical issues to the airline and it would have been up to him to self-report, not a private doctor. as we know he saw doctors through the years for psycho therapy treatment. it's really interesting to note wolf all of this is coming to life and he tried to commit suicide before he got his pilots license and he didn't know about that either. >> we learned a lot about the co-pilot but not much about the actual captain whose desperately trying to get back in the cockpit based on the cockpit voice recorder. what do we know about the pilot? >> reporter: yeah you know wolf he's really the hero in all of this because as you point out, he was trying to get through the, break through that cockpit door. in fact our team has spoken to his grandmother. she was very emotional on the phone to us.

he was only 34 years old. two young children. one in kindergarten. his grandmother says he deserves the german medal of hour because he's a hero and a loving father. there's a memorial service on friday. he was beloved by a lot of people wolf. >> i'm sure he was. thanks very much. pamela brown joining us from germany. let's get more on what's going on joining us now our law enforcement analyst, the former f.b.i. is assistance director and aviation courserr correspondent. we obviously know 150 people are dead. >> it shouldn't change the results at all but does create havoc for the families and everyone else.

for me, this is unprecedented to have that level of leaks in this investigation. >> let me ask, how unusual is it? >> richard, for example, that cockpit voice recorder transcript to be leaked to the german newspaper. >> very unusual. normally the transcript is held by the authority and i have no evidence of this but i'm guessing it wasn't the b.e.a. that leaked it. they are extremely good at this sort of stuff and revealed material they shouldn't. it kind of summed it up. it's distressing for the families. it is unnecessary in many ways. here's the point. there's a journal as a journalist i want all the information out there. what we're learning isn't adding anything. it's going to come out anyway. we got the prosecutors giving press conferences telling us we got the b.e.a. the information,

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new details about the co-pilot crashing the germanwings airliner. medical records show he was suicidal years ago before he obtained a pilot's license.

he told one doctor he was too stressed to work and when he visited an eye doctor complaining of vision problems he was told the cause was psycho systematic. our experts are here. let's continue the analysis. unfit to work psycho systematic could that effect his vision if he were going to major mental issues? >> absolutely. psycho systematic illnesses are dramatic. you can be blind. there's psycho systematic blindness. all sorts of things yes. >> explain the psycho systematic condition, what that means. >> it means that you're psycho soma, it means the mind and body. what's happening in the mind we call it a conversion disorder. it's converted into a physical manifestation. converted into a physical manifestation. >> if you're going through major stress it could effect our eye site. >> it's not common but it can, yes. >> and can have other effects as

well. >> the passengers the 149 people on the plane, the crew members, how do you know you're safe on the plane if a mental health screening isn't part of a certification of a pilot's license? >> it is part of getting the job. the self-reporting mechanisms that are in place have worked extremely well until now. you've got to understand in this case wolf or its really important what is exception naillynail rare here. he lied cheated, didn't reveal what he should have revealed. the su sigh dal tendencies were before he joined the airline. he did everything possible to avoid the truth coming out. we don't even know probably half the story of what he told the doctors he went to see. you cannot put in place a

penalty of bureaucracy that's going to always pick up the person. you can't. >> you agree this guy should have never been allowed in the cockpit of a plane like that. >> he probably shouldn't been behind the wheel of a car. never mind flying a plane. this is not about depression or mental illness. this is about somebody who was so ill and in such a state that really the system failed to pick him up to be sure. it's questionable. you cannot turn the entire airline community and put on top of them a sort of restriction because of this particular individual case. it won't work. >> but lisa, how did he manage to deceive so many people? his colleagues friends, bosses? he came across as relatively normal and wasn't. >> well he may have come across as relatively normal to them because they weren't looking for anything.

if he didn't show anything dramatic he let it go. that doesn't mean there wasn't anything. what's important to to know this guy was a murder. he's a cold blooded mass murder. we cannot talk about this being a depressed illness. people depressed are not bringing 149 people in the side of a mountain. >> if he had been your patient, lisa and come to you and said he's depressed and suicidal and he hates his accompany, he wants to bring down a plane. under the rules are you allowed to go to authorities and reveal what he has told you? >> here's what it is. it's called the privilege of privacy ends where the public begins. >> you could have gone to them. >> yes. >> you have deferent rules, right. >> we don't nope. we haven't heard specifically what the german rules are about

privacy and medical people informing the authorities if someone's suicidal or homeicidehomicide. >> there is tell a right in many cases to provide public parallel at state. the doctors he was seeing knew he was a pilot. we're not talking about his examine nation. examination. we're talking about the private physicians he seen. did they know he was a pilot that was about to get behind tons of steel with 149 other people on board? if they didn't know that, there's no way this could have ever come out. >> we have new information coming in as well. our justice reporter pamela brown is in germany and speaking with crash investigators and she's standing bey with new details. two men wearing women's wigs

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breaking new details about the co-pilot blamed for intentionally crashing the germanwings airliner. german prosecutor confirming andreas lubitz underwent psycho therapy before he obtained the license. let's go back to justice correspondent following the investigation for us.

>> he had mental health issues dating back to before he came a commercial pilot. back in 2013 prosecutors saying he exhibited suicidal behavior way back then. more recently we learned his study had eye issues. vision issues. he went to the eye doctor and apparently was diagnosed with a psycho systematic disorder at that point. so essentially, wolf, there was nothing wrong with his eyes. it was all in his head according to a source i spoke to with firsthand knowledge of the investigation. also we learned he went to a neuro psychologist and told the doctor he was overburdened with work and stressed out. he never made mention of wanting to commit suicide or any aggression towards others. in fact investigators had been in his apartment and learned they haven't found a suicide

note or confession. prosecuteors saying it's a mystery as to the motive. he didn't have any personal problems with his girl friend or family members at the stage in the investigation, still a lot of unanswered questions and a mystery, wolf. >> pamela stand by. i want to bring back richard quest and former f.b.i. agent. join richard, take us through this time line we now had the plane start to descend around 1029 tim 10:29 a.m. local time. screams last heard at 10:40 a.m. if a pilot is going to bring a plane down is that how he or she would do it? >> well, the idea you would just put the nose down manually and just crash it that way, the air bus 320 has various protections in it that might prevent the

pilot from doing so. we don't know whether he was thinking in such clear thoughts because everyone wants to know why this whole drama of returning the auto pilot and doing a slow rate of descent and there's a simple reason the plane won't let you crash itself on its own. that's one of the reasons he may have done it. this extremely complicated way and awful way he would have executed it yes. he was a pilot. he had 600 hours flying experience. he knew what he was doing. and god help him. he executed it with precision and that's the result. >> yeah certainly, a tragic result. tom, how are the investigators now based on what they know from the cockpit voice recorder they heard all the sound in the cockpit, how are they going to piece together and learn what his real motive was? >> i don't know they'll ever know his real motive wolf. they'll know he did this on

purpose. as far as the controls of the plane and what dials were touched at what point, they need the data recorder to reveal that. right now they're going on what they heard over the sound of the recording and that's really about all they have plus what the police are finding in his apartment and medical records. otherwise, i don't know. >> should authorities and airlines, for that matter, do more formal psychological testing for these pilots? >> i think they should wolf. they do when they're initially hired but it appears as though that might have escaped them in this case. but now what i'm concerned with is the continuing surveillance and continuing monitoring of these psychological conditions that just rely on self-reporting. i do believe there more analysis done in that area. >> who should do psychological testing for recertification for

pilot's license? >> well, i think the recertification need to fall the burden of that should be on the medical examiners themselves. however, we need to designate psychological medical examiners qualified to do that. we don't do that on a broad basis. that's where the focus needs to go. >> he passed his pilot recertification pilot medical examination. he had been to a medical clinic as recently though as this month he was being monitored but how is that not a red flag as far as the airline is concerned? >> because we don't know if the airline knew or what clinic he went to. that university clinic he went to if he hadn't told them he was a pilot, they had no way of knowing he shouldn't be flying a plane. they said he wasn't fit for work but never told us what work he wasn't fit for.

of course it's going to come in. you can't avoid it after the events taken place. according to the german pilots association today, it's by no means clear that they would have picked this up. that's not an excuse not to do anything. all i'm saying and suggesting is we've got to be exceptionally careful of coming up with a reaction to what is one of the most heinous aviation incidents any of us can remember. the reaction will not solve the problem. >> i assume all the investigators, tom, are going around interviewing everyone he knew. >> yes because so much of this goes back before he tried to become a pilot, they're going to have to go back 10 years interviewing people with him, associated with him, classmates, sbruk instructors, girl friends, people close to him. >> coming up we have more information coming in on the

final moments of 9525. the personal background of the co-pilot authorities now say was once treated for suicidal tendencies. also other major news including the dead line for an iran nuclear deal. framework only a few hours away. is iran playing last minute games? i'll ask the state department deputy spokeswoman. she's standing by live in switzerland. they try to ram the gates of a top secret spy agency. one of them is now dead. what were they trying to do?

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deal. russian foreign minister left to talks for home. >> thank you everybody very much. >> iran supplied an 11th hour surprise shipping stockpile out of the country for reprocessing into a safer form. a senior diplomat told cnn quote that's true. we do not intend to ship our material out. the stockpile is one of our subjects of our discussions and we'll deal with it in our talks. shipping the material abroad possibly to russia was always only just one option. the deal's most skeptical observer israeli's prime minister netanyahu. >> this agreement is fulfilling our deepest fears and even worse. >> sending what experts say is irans nine tons of enriched jer

rain -- jer rain -- out of the country extends the obama's administration's goal of one year. >> there are other options under discussion i'm sure but the best approach would be if i ran were to agree to ship out its stocks to russia. >> other remaining sticking points how quickly the west lifts economic sanctions and how much nuclear research and development iran is permitted to do while the deal is in effect. republican lawmakers make it clear who they believe will lose out in the last minute? >> it doesn't seem to be heading in the right direction and clearly, with a headline of tuesday i'm concerned what we might give away. the iranians doesn't seem to want to conclude this. >> i asked about iran's existence resistance and he said it's not iran. it's the u.s. being

intransigent. whether that's a signal these talks might not reach an agreement, they have about 24 hours or so to find out. wolf. >> thank you very much. joining us now from switzerland, the state department deputy spokeswoman, marie. thanks very much for joining us. the dead line only a few hours away. will there be a deal? >> well wolf i can stand here and say tonight that i actually don't know. we can see a past forward to concluding this political understanding by this time tomorrow night but i don't know if we'll get there. we have put proposals on the table that meet our bottom lines of getting iran to a breakout and cutting off the pathways for a weapon. we don't know if they can say yes to that. i think we'll see a lot in the next 24 hours and we'll really know how this process goes forward from here. >> what's the major sticking point right now?

>> well all the issues we talked about are related to each other. iran cares about the sanctions released. not just u.s. but u.n. on our side we want to be very clear that whatever numbers they're left with whatever stockpile they're left with whatever they do with that, whatever research and development they're allowed our bottom line is met. up to about two to three months now, we're trying to put together the right equation to get there. we think we have a number of different ways to get there. we don't know if the iranians will say yes. >> there was a plan for iran to give up a lot of its stockpile of uranium and send it to russia. >> that's been one option for how you deal with the stockpile they'll be getting rid of which is part of e kwaegs that gets us to a year breakout. there are other options deluding that the iran canadian country,

that's another option. what matters to us is less how they get there but how they're able to dispose in the stockpile think cannot use it to get to a nuclear weapon. that's what we're most concerned about and that's what we're focussed on. >> why is it taking so long in these final hours that's either make or break? >> well these issues are incredibly complicated not just on the technical side. the scientific know how and all the pieces on how you enrich uranium and get to a plutonium pathway, it's all complicated and each piece of that there's a thousand decisions to make at a technical and political level and those are all part of the agreement. iran has tough decisions to make. we will see in the next 24 hours whether they're able to often at the end of negotiations they're at the toughest issues and down to the wire and those are the

most difficult conversations and we don't know if we'll be able to get those done. >> i want to listen to bill clinton back in 1994 when the u.s. worked out a similar nuclear deal with north korea supposed by getting rid of any intention for north korea to have a nuclear bomb. listen to this. >> today all americans should know that as a result of this achievement on korea our nation will be safer and the future of our people for secure. >> remember covering those negotiations negotiations. wendy sherman was involved in negotiating that deal. they have not only a nuclear bomb but missles capable of using those bombs and a lot of people are concerned the same thing is going to happen with iran right now. why shouldn't they be so concerned? >> well, from a technical standpoint we're not completely

different places when we look at the program today than we were with north koreas. if you look at the months we've been negotiating, we've been living under the plan of action. the nuclear program is frozing and the i.a. e.a. has confirmed living up to their commitments. we're talking about much more transparency much more verification and we will not take a bad deal wolf. if we get one, it will be one we can talk about publicly we can defend publicly and it will be confident and meets our bottom lines here. that's what we're working towards. we can still get it done. i don't know if we'll be able to. >> i remember covering the aftermath of the deal. there was a lot of optimism. this was a new chapter. the korean peninsula was going to be a different place. north corr radio north corr north korea cheated and have a

nuclear bomb now. the sajss have been working and it was a major blunder to ease up on those sanctions allowing billions of dollars to flow into iran. your reaction to what the speaker said you should have kept the sanctions going even intensified. >> well the sanctions are what brought us to the negotiating table. members of congress voted for them and these are very important said they were doing so in order to get to iran's negotiating table. look the sanctions have been an incredible piece of this. under the joint plan of action the poor architecture of our sanctions has remained in place. that hasn't gone anywhere. most of irans currency is still frozen overseas and they still aren't able to access it. they will not get the relief their economy needs unless we get to a comprehensive agreement. i think we owe it to the world, wolf to see if we can get this

done automatically. we know it's the most durable and gives us the most eyes on our nuclear program. we owe it to everyone to see if we can get these done and that's why we're working so hard. >> thanks very much for joining us. coming up disturbing new information on the medical background of the co-pilot who crashed the airliner in the alps killing all 150 people on board in a deadly shooting in a top secret spy agency. officials say two men dressed as women tried to break through the gate. we have new information. stand by. hey, girl. is it crazy that your soccer trophy is talking to you right now? it kinda is. it's as crazy as you not rolling over your old 401k. cue the horns... just harness the confidence

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a deadly uncounter at the gates of a sky agency. two men dressed as women tried to break through the nsa. he haven perez is getting new information. what happened here? >> reporter: this began as one -- when a scary national security incident and has turned into a strange incident. two men tried to drive into one of the outer perimeter gates of the nsa headquarters. they drove in through what is normally an employee entrance off the highway there. they failed to follow instructions from nsa police officers and allegedly tried to ram a second gate. that's when an nsa officer opened fire killing one of the men and injuring a second. from the scene there we have pictures that appears to be a wig -- according to the nsa authorities there, one of the -- both men were wearing -- were

dressed at women, women's wigs. what appears to have happened is that a man went to police this morning and reported he went partying with a couple of men dressed as women and this morning he found his car missing which happens to be the same ford escape found there at the nsa headquarters. they found cocaine in the car. authorities believe that perhaps these men were under the influence and may a series of very bad decisions. >> there's no indication this could be terrorism or anything along those lines? >> reporter: the fbi says there's no indication of terrorism. it does appear that this was a series of mistakes that caused this very scary incident there. >> were these two men with the wigs armed? >> reporter: they were not armed. they had drugs in the car. perhaps they reaektcted -- made wrong decisions when confronted with police probably because they were under the influence. >> where the nsa is headquartered, it's a huge area. there are a lot of entrances. >> reporter: a lot of entrances.

this entrance is an employee entrance. if you are driving down the baltimore washington parkway, you can mistake this for an exit -- a highway exit. it's possible under the influence you could have made that mistake. >> maybe that's what happened. we will find out. thanks very much for that evan perez reporting. new information reveals how the co-pilot of flight 9525 was treated for having suicidal ten den says. what was behind his complaints of vision problems? a transcript of the cockpit aud toe shows the final minutes of terror as passengers start to scream.

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happening now, secret diagnosis. new information about why the co-pilot of flight 9525 was declared unfit to work on the day he crashed the plane. what did the airline know about his psychological problems? chilling transcript of the final moments before the plane went downocked out pilot's desperate screams. final hours, u.s. diplomats racing to reach a deal with iran before the deadline. will the iranians give ground or walk out? and challenging clinton. the former maryland governor comes out swinging against the democratic front runner for president. can martin o'malley doe railerail her white house hope snz wes? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." breaking new. new confirmation the co-pilot of

flight 9525 had secret psychological problems including a history of wanting to kill himself. new video surfaced showing lubitz in the cockpit of a glider the prosecutor's office revealing that lubitz was once suicidal. tonight, cnn has learned that a doctor determined that lubitz was unfit to work on the day he crashed the plane in part because he had psycho somatic disorder vision issues that weren't based on any actual problem with his eyes. our correspondents and analysts are standing by in the united states and around the world. they are covering the news breaking right now. let's go to our justice correspondent pamela brown joining us live from dusseldorf germany. she's digging in on the crash investigation. pamela? >> reporter: a young lubitz laughing behind the controls of a glider plane.

now said to have been suicidal before he ever got his commercial pilots license. >> he had at that time been in treatment of a psychotherapist because of what is documented as being suicidal at that time. >> reporter: more recently a source tells cnn lubitz went to an eye doctor complaining of vision problems. the doctor found nothing wrong with his eyes. diagnosing him with a psycho somatic disorder. it was all in his head. the source says lubitz visited a neuropsychologist complaining of being at work. today the prosecutor said lubitz didn't tell his doctors he was suicidal and showed no signs of aggression. prosecutors say they found torn-up doctor notes deeming him

unfit to work, including one day the day he crashed the plane. what investigators didn't find a suicide note. >> we have not found anything in the surround inging personal or family or his professional surround ing surrounding that is giving us any hints that enable us to say anything about his motivation. >> reporter: a german aviation source tells cnn lubitz passed his recertification test in the summer. as part of that exam cnn learned he would have had to fill out this questionnaire, specifically asking are you taking any medication? do you have any psychological, psychiatric or neurological diseases? have you ever attempted suicide. lufthansa was not aware of any medical issues.

>> that report from pamela brown in dusseldorf. we have a more detailed account of the final horrific moments of flight 9525 before it slammed into the french alps. rene marsh is here. she has more information. what are you learning? >> reporter: new details coming from the cockpit voice recorder. it provides a harrowing account of the deadly flight. the audio has not been made public but a german newspaper says they have obtained a transcript from the recorder and it paints a picture of a co-pilot who appeared to encourage the captain to leave the cockpit, a captain who fought to get back in and tear phi ry phied passengers on board. 10:00 tuesday morning germanwings flight 9525 takes off nearly 20 minutes late. according to the "bild," the captain, 34-year-old patricksays they

will try to make it up in the air. lubitz responds go any time. at 10:27, the plane reaches 38,000 feet cruising altitude. the captain asks lubitz to prepare the landing. after the check, lubitz tells the captain, you can go now. there is the sound of a seat moving backward and the captain allegedly says you can take over. once the captain leaves the cockpit door is locked. >> the co-pilot manipulates the control. >> reporter: data streamed from the transponder suggested he manually reprograms the autopilot from 38,000 feet to 100 feet. at 10:29 air traffic control radar detects the plane's descent. controllers contact the plane but get no response from the cockpit. an alarm that sounds like this blaring in the cockpit

indicating the plane is losing altitude too quickly. >> the fact that he had all these bells and whistles going off to tell him that he was in trouble was almost to the point where it was too late. >> reporter: then loud banging on the door. the captain is heard shouting for god sake open the door. passengers are screaming. at 10:35, the plane is at about 23,000 feet and still rapidly deskendde descend descending. then bangs. 90 seconds later, another alarm is triggered in the cockpit that sounds like this. >> pull up. >> reporter: the captain pleads open the damn door. 13,000 feet the co-pilot is heard breathing steadily. they believe they heard the plane's right wing scrape a mountain. passengers are heard screaming once again before impact. cnn has not been able to

independently verify the transcript's time line of events as accurate. the agency in charge of the investigation, they will not confirm or deny the details. they did tell me yesterday they are shocked by the leaks. it's a complete lack of decency for the victims' families. we should point out, wolf there's one critical piece that is missing, the plane's flight data recorder. >> they need that. they got the cockpit voice recorder. the two black boxes in the planes. let's bring in richard quest, tom fuentes miles o'brien, ruth winters-green and michael goldfarb. we are getting a clearer picture of lubitz's background his health issues. he received is therapy for suicidal tendencies years earlier before he became a commercial pilot. here is the question. why was he allowed to fly this plane if in fact he had

suicidal tendencies and major mental issues years earlier? >> and that is an excellent question to which nobody has yet come up with an answer. wolf i think we know that when the final report comes out, this is going to be a classic case of the facts falling between all the stalls to create tragic results. i'm giving you an unsatisfactory answer. but that's how these cases happen. somebody gets through the system which can never be foolproof. everybody says who knew? of course the man put -- dropped out of air training because allegedly of depression. he had a depressive incident and suicidal thoughts during that period. within two years, he is flying -- two or three years he is flying for a mainline airline in europe. of course something has gone dramatically, drastically wrong there. there will have to be an investigation as to how it fell through the cracks.

no doubt, there will be more testing, more training all those things. >> miles, should lufthansa have been alerted to all this medical history that he had? >> they should have been alerted. but it's difficult when you are talking about the confidences between a patient and a doctor. should that be changed where a psychiatrist discloses, you work for an airline, everything you say if i'm worried about you hurting someone, i'm going to have to report to the airline. that's a slippery slope. but i would suggest to you that the airline could be a lot more proactive in screening out candidates. there were an awful lot of signs here. surely, with a little bit of due diligence more so they might have seen the trouble signs. among the things they could have done is a blood test which would have revealed some of these very potent drugs in his system. >> that's a good point. michael, had he been a pilot here in the united states knowing his background could he have flown a commercial airline?

>> no. he didn't have the hour minimum. but more importantly, he didn't go through the socialization that getting an air transport pilot's license requires in the united states. he would not have. we have a bigger problem. we have low-cost budget short-hop airlines that are linking to the major hubs. there's a pilot shortage internationally. corners get cut. lufthansa had 22 days of pilot strikes. when the faa with eastern airlines many years ago when they had labor strikes, faa put them on a watch list. they oversaw what was happening at that airline. too much growth too fast, will you have tan da-- lufthansa is trying to integrate. >> they have an excellent reputation being very very precise. >> this is going to hurt their reputation. they are very precise. the growth has gotten ahead of them. >> because it's a cheaper airline.

>> cheap doesn't mean unsafe. but this and airasia. they had no authority to fly that route. that's unheard of. too much growth everybody wants to fly, in different parts of the world. carryeryiers are trying to accommodate them. >> ruth explain how someone has major mental issues for example, that could affect his or her eyesight. >> if someone has delusions, they are psychotic, their brain is not functioning the way most of our brains do i compare -- when i describe to the family members of someone who is being diagnosed with psychosis of major mental illness of that severity that they can understand it by thinking about how they experience going into the dream state, when you are somewhat lucid but starting to dream or when you wake up in the morning. the brain is not always functioning well. >> if you are going through major depression for example, that could manifest with physical ailments? >> i would say that is extremely

almost not an issue with major depression. this is an issue with psychosis. much more rare. as the psychiatrist who was on earlier said it would be really good to get the word depression disassociated with this young man. depression is a symptom like a fever is a symptom. he probably had depressive symptoms. that was a symptom. he had psychosis. >> they want to talk to all -- everybody basically who knew this guy, friends, family girlfriends, whatever but also professionals, doctors, psychiatrists who may have treated him. >> they will before there is over. you could be talking hundreds of people but they will talk to all of them. what's unfortunate for everyone is that the leaks that have come out so quickly before they could get into all of this investigation. that may drive some witnesses to go into hiding and not want to come out. seeing that their identities are going to be divulged a

relationship is decideivulged. these are better conducted on a confidential basis. really it's necessary for the integrity of the case. that's been blown out of the water. >> stand by. we're watching what's going on we're checking more information just coming in. much more right after this. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice.

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a top official at the plane crash site is warning it may not be possible to find the remains of all 150 people on board. what's the latest over there, carl? >> reporter: there is mixed news

today from this corner of france wolf. we are hearing that the track that the local village mayor has been trying to build to get vehicles to the crash site is almost complete. about 100 yards to go, one more obstacle. that could be completed by tomorrow. that will allow access to all-terrain vehicles get the recovery teams in quicker over land. up until now, they have had to fly in by helicopter. that has made the process of bringing remains and parts of the wreckage back very slow and very difficult on a day like today when it was windy. what the head of the recovery teams is also telling us is that overnight and during the day as well because that wreckage and the human body parts are spread over a four-acre area then they have three permanent guards out there in the hillsides because there are wolves foxes and other predators there. but the head of the recovery mission doesn't think that's a

problem. he doesn't think that the animals are going to get involved eating there. but there is bad news in the sense that despite the fact that 78 of the bodies or remains have been identified because of the speed of that crash, more than 430 miles an hour the forensic teams say that some of the bodies may never show up. that means that their loved ones will have simply nothing to put for burial wolf. >> a sad part of this story. i understand the captain of the plane, the man who was prevented from getting into the cockpit, his father visited the site. explain what the father said. >> reporter: his father visited the site. we understand a mother and brother may also have come here and spoke to the local village mayor. the local village mayor didn't go into a huge amount of detail. he has played a discrete role trying to help the families on their first steps towards

finding some consolation here. but he did say he described the father as a broken man, had a huge many questions as to why this had happened. he like all the other relatives is really struggling to come to terms with this wolf. >> thank you. we're back with our aviation experts and the newest information about the co-pilot of flight 9525. officials revealing he was in fact diagnosed as suicidal years before the plane crashed. tom fuentes, the girlfriend in this particular case she spent a lot of time with him, most recently a flight attendant. she's going to be critical. >> i think she will be important to revealing what his inner thoughts were in the privacy of the home together. she will be very important. >> she has been speaking out. the "bild" in germany, to be

specific saying that he was abusive, he would scream he had nightmares he would wake up in the middle of the night screaming, we're going down, we're going down suggesting at one point lufthansa will -- everyone at lufthansa will know who i am. that's pretty dramatic stuff. >> it's extremely dramatic. i will make a name for myself people will talk about me i will be -- people will know who i am. yes, i mean by no means have i no expertise in psycho analysts. but those who do say this is a classic form of syndrome. what we don't know wolf is whether or not these reports are true. "bild" has a very good reputation for leaking and getting good stories. it also has had at times questionable quotes. so we don't know the full veracity of that. until we do i strongly suggest we have to treat it with a certain amount of skepticism. it fits the story and the events too keenly for my liking.

>> ruth you are a psychologist. if it's true what the girlfriend is quoted as saying what does that say to you? >> there's a little bit of confusion for me in that if he was psychotic, the premeditated part in a specific of a way as to say everyone will remember my name doesn't fit. that bothered me from the beginning. >> mike let's talk about the medications supposedly he was receiving, including some major psychotic drugs, injected into him, not with a pill. could that happen here in the united states? >> five years ago the faa allowed for the first time antidepressants to be introduced to pilots flying. it was prozac pilots because it wasn't where the agency felt comfortable if a heavy antidepressant was administered. even with the antidepressants and pilots can take in the united states ambien but they can't fly within 24 hours of that time. they are becoming more modern

and integrating the use into the lifestyle lifestyle. but this is extreme. this is a one -- >> completely different classification. >> should pilots with a history of these kinds of psychological problems whether depression or much more serious, should they be allowed to fly? >> well i think it's important to make a distinction between run of the mill depression and what we're talking about here. it's kind of the difference between hypertension and full up heart disease. you wouldn't want the pilot with heart disease at the controls because he might keel over. i think there's an important distinction here. what we're talking about is way beyond depression and certainly the faa needs to understand that someone who has mild depression and treats it with prozac or the like is perfectly safe to be there. >> michael, you have studied

these investigations for a long time planes crash for whatever reason mechanical catastrophic. in this particular -- how rare is what we're seeing right now? >> well, i mean, pilots suicide, egypt air and all the egyptians won't admit it was a suicide of that plane took off over the cape cod and when the pilot plummeted into the ocean. we have that. we have silk air. and we have this. there are exceedingly rare. but the larger question is, can we become more modern in how we treat mental illness? and the myth of flying that there's a disincentive to this day for anybody to come forward and say that they need help. especially with a carrier where there is distrust between the pilots and management who is going to come forward and ask for that help if they feel it will jeopardize -- >> if a pilot comes forward and tells the airline, i've got major issues i'm dealing with right now, give me a few months to deal with it then i will get

back that could be a career ender, right? >> it could be. whether it is or not, it's the fear. put yourself in the position of a pilot who has got a family mortgage payments school fees car payments and suddenly they are facing some form of incident or mental health situation or even physical health situation where their flying career comes to an end. of course airlines have procedures in place. but airlines also have thousands of pilots. these pilots suddenly find themselves in burreaucracy which can take many months to sort out. that is what they are dealing with. none of us really understand -- miles and michael does. but those of white house have got -- those of us who have jobs who have a problem they say sort it out, that's not the life of a pilot.

you are looking at the end of your career or the damaging of your career. that's your fear. >> if all these reports that years earlier when he was younger he was going through major mental related problems and he dealt with them but do those problems really go away if you are a pilot? >> the types of problems that lubitz had will not just remit. treat can be very effective, but someone who is under treatment for it with anti psychotic drugs is not fit to be a pilot. but i think there's a lot that can be done in terms of understanding a person before they go through all of the training and their mortgage and student fees and so forth hinge on their income such that they have this fear that's better screening at the outset prior to licensing. >> because as you know tom, when he was training in arizona, they sent him over for training

in arizona, apparently he took a few months off for whatever reason. we're not sure what it was, but we believe it was psychologically related. >> that's true. the problem is that you have people that are hearing this story maybe only a third of the story or half the story and they are going to associate forever if a guy is really depressed, he will crash a plane and kill people. it makes it impossible to take the stigma away that you have a situation of mental health that's treatable. people will assume maybe it's treatable, maybe it's not. maybe none should be in the cockpit. that's what might come out of this. >> it's a serious issue. miles, we learned that the standards for pilot screening in europe are different from the screening standards here in the united states. would you recommend that americans -- a bold question -- only fly u.s. carriers presumably they have better screening techniques? >> i think you should be aware of the airplane you are getting on and those kinds of things are important. it's hard to root this kind of information out. but these low-cost carriers have

been under pressure trying to grow trying to fill cockpit seats. they are cutting corners. you can find this information out with not too much extra work. generally speaking the legacy carriers flag carriers have much higher standards. the pilots have gone through a much better regime of training than you get with the airasia or the germanwings. 600-hour pilot, that's just not -- there's not enough experience there for taking aside what the people -- what's going on in that person's head. >> richard quest, do you agree? >> not at all. in fact i disagree with miles on this. this is not about the number of hours, it's about training. that pilot was trained into the same standard as lufthansa. you can criticize lufthansa as much as you like. but you can not make the correlation where you talk about a low-cost carrier that is owned by lufthansa group.

you just can't make that generalization generalization. >> richard, there is no shortcut for experience in aviation period. you cannot short-circuit that. 600 hours -- i'm telling you, my insurance company would not allow that person to fly my single engine aircraft at 600 hours. what does that tell you? that's not enough experience. >> that pilot could have been in the seat of a lufthansa plane or an eyeiberia plane or any other plane you are talking about. you are making the connection to low-cost carriers, that's something i don't think you can make. >> well low-cost carrier has a young captain who felt he had to rush so much he couldn't relieve himself before he got on the plane. they are treated like numbers. they are forced to give back. they endure all kinds of hardship in their job. it's about time we started treating them like human beings and maybe these situations wouldn't happen. >> let me get michael to wrap it

up. >> i agree with miles on this. i think that the standards in the united states are much higher. it doesn't mean low-cost is unsafe. you had a young 21-year-old who had a dead head at newark liberty because she couldn't afford a liberty, a pilot making $25,000, $30,000. that adds to the stress. you are only as safe as the lowest link. >> the plane that crashed in buffalo? >> yes. >> stand by. we're getting more detailed and very disturbing accounts of the plane's final moments. the transcript should they have been leaked? a report that the co-pilot was treated with these anti psychotic drugs. what does that tell us about his mental health and whether he was fit to fly?

breaking now. a window into the flight of the co-pilot of flight 9525. german prosecutors say lubitz was suicidal several years ago. cnn has learned he was recently diagnosed with having psycho-somatic vision problems which had a doctor declare him unfit for work on the day of the crash. investigators aren't disputeing a new account of the final minutes before the plane went down.

some are furious about the leak of the information. let's go to will ripley live in dusseldorf germany. what are you learning will? >> reporter: this is the german tabloid that put this out over the weekend. very upsetting information for the families of the people on board because it essentially details the final minutes of their lives. sadly, we learned that these final minutes included a lot of terror for people in the back of the plane. passengers were first heard screaming at 10:32 a.m. that was a full eight hours before -- sorry, eight minutes before the plane hit the french alps at 10:40 a.m. in between that time you could hear the captain who had been locked out, valiantly trying to break back into the cockpit. he was screaming through the door at lubitz who never responded and could be heard on the audio recording breathing as the plane went down closer and closer towards the mountains. to imagine if you had a mother

or a spouse or a child on that plane and to think that for eight minutes they knew something was wrong, they saw the terrain getting closer very difficult for the families and infuriating for the investigators on the ground here. >> it's so hardeartbreaking to think of the final minutes before the crash. thank you, will. richard quest, you say the leaks, particularly the publishing of the transcript of the cockpit voice recorder are unprecedented. why isn't this information released typically so quickly? >> because as it got to be put into context. i don't expect anybody on your panel to agree with me necessarily, wolf. but the reality is it should not have been leaked in this fashion. it told us -- if it told us something we didn't know or was being hidden or was being secretive, but it didn't wolf. it told us what the prosecutor had already said.

to quote the bea, it was voyeuristic in the extreme. it will come out, wolf in the bea investigation. nothing was going to be hidden. it's going to be published. but to publish it in a newspaper, the detail banging on -- i'm not going to dignify it by repeating it. that i think affronts dignity and is wrong. >> normal circumstances, that transcript would have been published as part of the final conclusion of the investigation. but that would have been maybe six months or a year or two years down the road. >> but i hear what you are saying. we knew what it said. you are talking about what it said nothing substantive was missing from it. maybe it would be another six months. let's take airasia. it was six months before the ntsb published -- the oceanana san francisco transcript. did we miss out by not knowing

specifically? we knew days after what happened. >> what do you think, the leaks do they hurt the investigation? >> i agree with richard. they do more than. thursday the investigators were very upset with the single source "new york times" report that the co-pilot may have taken down the plane. these things are very injuring to the investigation, because they have to -- because of the thirst of the public they have to shift their emphasis. richard is right, it should never have released the audio. >> your reaction? >> i agree with richard. >> all of you are on the same page on that. miles, let's talk about some of the things we learned. one things -- >> i disagree. i completely disagree, wolf. >> tell us why. >> i think this is a teachable moment. we're all paying attention to a very important subject. to the extent that this helps people understand a serious problem in aviation i see no reason not to release this. i don't understand how this changes the investigation one

iota. i think as a journalist i would never be in a position to say we shouldn't release information like this. they hold on to this for too long. we're talking about it. we're thinking about t.it. let's the facts come out. >> how will this change the investigation? we know what happened. >> yes. but we don't know the full story. the flight data recorder has not been recovered. they are at the beginning of the investigation. take the airasia investigation -- excuse mee the malaysia one. that was how not to change the investigation. we lost valuable time finding that plane where it might have been because we had thought it went up to 39,000 41,000 feet. was it in the indian ocean? so they -- i agree with miles to the extent the public has a need to know and they are very interested. let it come from the investigators. they are smart enough to give controlled information to the public when they feel it's

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stand by for more on the crash of flight 9525. new information we're getting about the co-pilot's suicidal tendencies. also breaking, the final hours of nuclear talks with iran. tomorrow is the deadline to reach a deal. our global affairs analyst is joining us live from switzerland. explain what's happening in the talks 24 hours left in the negotiations. what's the latest sticking point? >> reporter: wolf everybody has an analogy here. the german foreign minister compares it to the apex of the summit in the surrounding swiss alps. chinese foreign minister compares it to the sprint at the end of a marathon. rewith we are in the 11th hour. there are key sticking points. number one, iran wants to be able to continue to develop advanced nuclear technology while the deal is in effect. the international community

wants to continue to put restrictions on that research while the deal is in effect for 15 years. talking about u.n. sanctions. iran wants them lifted on day one. international community is saying iran they need to phase those out as iran shows its compliance with the deal and wants the flexibility to snap them in place if iran violates wolf. so obviously at the 11th hour everyone is driving a hard bargain. those are the key sticking points as they go into the final day, wolf. >> i know you had a chance to speak with the secretary of state, john kerry. what did he tell you? will they have a deal by tomorrow night? >> reporter: well he said that he's not sure. he said everybody is working really hard. i will read a little bit of what he said to me. he said there are still remain some difficult issues. he said there was a little more light in the negotiations but there is still some tricky issues. everybody knows, he said the

meaning of tomorrow wolf. if there's no deadline by tomorrow they really don't feel that there's really a use to continue to negotiate, if they can't get the outlines of a deal not really sure whether more time would really make a difference. >> we will check back with you. critical hours right now. see if they can have a deal with iran. let's see if it's a good deal. that's the key point right now. there are also enormous stakes for the united states and iran in iran is able to move forward to building a nuclear bomb. barbara starr is looking at the consequences if if no deal is reached. what are you seeing? >> reporter: one of the key questions, wolf if no deal is reached, could iran at some point test a nuclear weapon? a key international diplomat tells me there is a way to make sure it doesn't get to that point. dire predictions if iran and the u.s. don't reach a nuclear deal. >> iran will immediately begin once again pursuing its nuclear

program, accelerate its nuclear program, without us having any insight into what they are doing. >> reporter: iranian enrichment facilities begin making weapons grade fuel and then an iranian nuclear test. this doctor runs the agency that monitors global nuclear testing. in an exclusive cnn interview he says tehran could not test in secret. >> any country that will try today to hide a nuclear test explosion, we have more than 90% of chance in detecting it. >> reporter: the agency's worldwide sensor network detects seismic activity from underground explosions and the release of radioactive material in the air. there are problems. it took 55 days for sensors to pick up radioactive gases from a north korean nuclear test

seeping into the atmosphere when pyongyang set off a nuclear device deep >> what we need is cracks in the ground that could let the gas seep through and then be detected. >> he wants iran to take a step few are talking about, ratify the international test ban treaty. >> first, everyone talks about enrichment. but before we discuss this enrichment, let's get this treaty in default so we don't think about the process of developing a nuclear weapon. >> and even with the deal iran has potential nuclear capability in tact. it recently used an intercontinental warhead. but u.s. intelligence calculates iran's key nuclear sites are so far underground that israeli

bombs could not hit them and the u.s. largest bomb massive ordinance penetrator also might not be able to destroy the key sites in a single strike. >> even military action would not be as successful as the deal that we have put forward. >> and even if it got to the point that iran conducted a nuclear test what the doctor and others will tell you, that means the u.s. position right now is so strongly get a deal on enrichment cut off the front end of this cycle. this u.n. agency is looking at trying to also cut off the test end of the cycle. wolf? >> barbara, good report. just ahead, new information that the co-pilot of flight 9525 had serious psychological problems. stand by with the latest information about his suicidal tendencies and his treatment before the crash.

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new tonight, senator marco rubio says he'll announce his presidential plans on april 13th. on the democratic side, a contender is warning that hillary clinton should not be crowned as the party's nominee. let's go to brianna keilar. she's working the story for us. what are you learning? >> we're talking about martin o'malley the former maryland governor also a former hillary clinton supporter, who is making it known that he's likely to run

as well. former maryland governor nor martin o'malley sounding more and more like a challenger to hillary clinton on abc's "this week". >> the presidency of the united states is not some crown to be passed between two families. >> reporter: and in the early caucus state of iowa. >> it is not unusual for there to be an inevitable front-runner early in a contest who has fantastic name recognition and is therefore inevitable until he or she is no longer inevitable. >> reporter: as o'malley is touting his progressive record and in advance of clinton's juggernaut campaign and massive fundraising efforts. all in hopes of sparking democrats' attention. >> i find it kind of invig

invigorating that there's still room in our democracy for one-on-one conversation. >> hillary rodham clinton to be the next president of the united states. >> reporter: the former clinton backer now explaining away his enthusiastic support for her presidential inspirations the last time she ran in 2008 telling abc -- >> well i certainly believe for those times that she would be the best choice for those times. >> for those times? not now? >> i believe there are new perspectives for us to face as americans. >> reporter: but so far, most democratic voters looking for another perspective are backing someone other than o'malley. a new poll shows vice president biden and massachusetts senator elizabeth warren far ahead of o'malley. elizabeth warren says that she is not and she's adamant about it that she is not, not, not

running and then you have joe biden who we will expect will formally make up his mind this summer but he hasn't made any moves, like staffing up that will show that he's thinking about running. >> some think that martin o'malley may be running for vice presidential running platesmates. >> there are also a lot of strategist who is question whether he would be a good vice presidential pick and it's yet to be seen if he really is someone who would bring a lot. his approval but sort of -- he's not known that well. he really needs to get out there and define himself to prove his worth as a running mate. >> thank you very much, brianna keilar. an important programming note, watch "showdown in indiana" hosted by chris cuomo airing tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern. you'll want to see that. remember you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me, @wolfblitzer.

i'm filling in for anderson cooper in one hour later tonight. i'll see you then. "outfront" next breaking news in the investigation into flight 9525. new information on what andreas lubitz revealed and did not reveal to his employers before the crash. plus lubitz's girlfriend opens up about his mental state and his promise to quote, do something that will change the system. that interview coming up. and protesters at this hour storming the streets of indiana marching against a law that they say allows businesses to discriminate against gays. let's go "outfront." good