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right into -- >> oh i'm sorry. >> reporter: jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> you got to give her a lot of. set your dvr to record "outfront." in the meantime "anderson cooper 360" begins right now. good evening, i'm wolf blitzer sitting in for anderson. tonight, a real shocker in the germanwings 9525 tragedy. not only was andreas lubitz suffering from severe depression during flight training back in 2009 the airline actually knew about it. bear in mind this was a major episode of an apparently chronic mental illness that just a year later would reportedly require injections of anti-psychotic medication to treat. yet the airline let him keep training and ultimately put him in the cockpit. that's one key development today but far from the only one. according to the french magazine the german newspaper built video recovered from a cell phone at the crash site
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shows chaos from the passenger cabin moments before it hit the mount mountain. so much leaked and so much has been correct. so again, tonight a lot to talk about. first, let's go to justice correspondent pamela brown joining us from dusseldorf germany. lufthansa, the airlines, they're saying they want to set the record straight that they did in fact know about the co-pilot's issues with depression. that's right, isn't it? >> reporter: that's absolutely right, wolf. this is really a stunning development here. we're learning from the airline back in 2009 andreas lubitz handed over medical documents self-reported he had a bout with depression going through training but before today, we heard from the lufthansa ceo. in fact right after the crash, and he said that the company didn't know anything about his medical issues and he was 100% fit to fly. take a listen.
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>> might there have been signs, could there have been indications that this person might have been mentally unstable? >> no the pilot has passed all his tests, all his medical exams. we have at lufthansa a reporting system where crew can report without being punished their own problems or they can report about problems of others any kind of punishment that hasn't been used either in this case. all the safety nets all the safety nets we are so proud of here have not worked in this case. >> reporter: lufthansa making this announcement today and in a press release saying it did an internal review after the crash found these medical records from 2009 that lubitz gave to the company and then lufthansa saying it gave those documents to investigators here in dusseldorf to help with the investigation. wolf? >> pamela, these reports about a video taken inside the plane and recovered from the crash scene, it's horrific video, supposedly.
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what are you learning about that? >> reporter: it really is horrific. we know that today bill newspaper as well as a parisian publication came out with these articles saying they had viewed this cell phone video apparently from the last minutes of the flight 9525 that this was cell phone video found at the crash site that they viewed. you can hear screaming in the video, apparently until those last moments, metallic banging on the cockpit door presumably the captain trying to get in but wolf right after those reports came out, the main french official who's in charge of all the rescue workers on the ground came out saying this is wrong, unwarranted, there is no way that they could have seen the cell phone video because these videos or these cell phones collected from the crash site haven't been analyzed and exploited, wolf. >> yeah. other people have seen those
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saying they have found cell phones there and maybe those other cell phones have video as well. we're going to get in depth on that. pamela thanks. one more quick question before i let you go. the co-pilot's girlfriend there's new information coming out that she knew about his mental illness. what are you learning about that? >> reporter: that's right. i spoke to a source with firsthand knowledge, wolf and the source says that the girlfriend knew that lubitz had psychological issues but that she didn't know the extent of the issues. she's apparently optimistic he would work them out. knew he was going to treatment and seeing two doctors who deemed him unfit to work. the girlfriend was as surprised as everyone else when she had learned what her boyfriend had done. wolf? >> pamela brown, thank you for reporting. all of this raising serious questions about why knowing what lufthansa knew back in 2009, the airline still kept this guy on the payroll. joining us now, our aviation correspondent richard quest and
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miles o'brien and the clinical neuropsychologist, gary cay, who discovered a cognitive test for pilots. richard, last week lufthansa, as you know saying the pilot was, quote, 100% flight worthy without any limitations, but if a pilot did, in fact have serious episodes and taking psychotic medication can they ever become 100% flight worthy from their perspective? >> we need to know what happened after he returned in 2009 and finished his training. because that tells us whether there was the correct procedure and process. it's entirely possible that something has gone horribly wrong in terms of following through from what he said in 2009. we don't know that. he could have had full medical
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evaluations, and still passed all his tests. clearly, obviously, carson saying 36 hours after the event this pilot was 100% fit, never should have said. i don't know i need to check, whatever. but the truth is we don't know what lufthansa did when they gave him the job. that's the important bit, not what happened in 2009. >> miles, the fact the airlines knew about the co-pilot's condition, hired him, trained him, do you think that points to how these so-called low-cost carriers are struggling with rapid expansion, low ticket prices maybe even a pilot shortage at the same time? because that has been suggested. >> it is a tragic case and point, wolf. what they do is they hire people with zero time they run them through a school give them 500 or 600 hours and then put them
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in the right seat of an ail er airliner. then they have to pay the airliner back for training. they have to pay back for their training. there is a disincentive for the airline mid training to drop someone because guess what? he won't pay you back. so this is just one example of these low-cost airlines cutting corners, in particular on the most important safety item on the plane. the human being in the seats. it's time we started treating pilots better paying them better, insisting they get a little more rest. don't force them to fly with minimal fuel and also allow them to be able to take five minutes to take a bathroom break before they get on the plane and fly to dusseldorf. >> but miles, let me follow up. this is a subsidiary of lufthansa, one of the major carriers of the world with an outstanding reputation. >> well, why did they create a
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subsidiary? they wanted to do it cheaper. it's as simple as that. there's no reason to have a subsidiary. you've got a great mainline airline, a great legacy carrier with a great tradition. germanwings is an offshoot of that where they create a whole new set of work rules and pay. that's what this is about. >> richard quest, what do you think? >> i agree with miles' second half of his answer the pilots need to be paid better their conditions need to be changed, that all the last part i totally disagree with miles' first part. he has elegantly taken one plus one and came up with three on the first part of his equation. the reality is these airlines are regulated and monitored by the same regulartors that do the other legacy airlines. and to suggest otherwise, i think is injurious to the industry. >> go ahead, miles. >> well i think the industry needs a little bit of a wake-up
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call here. the regulators generally speaking, have been lap dogs to the industry. they've been steam rolled by an industry that said we can't afford to pay our pilots properly. can't afford to treat them right. need to put them in the right seat with 600 hours. it's all non-sense. they can pay pilots well. the problem is passengers want to pay $99 to fly new york to los angeles and the airlines are a competitive business so they figure the way to pressure and to squeeze out some money is at the expense of the pilots. regulators need to step up to the plate here and insist we get better because we have pushed the system to its limits. the layers of safety are not what they used to be. >> but miles, you cannot take those facts -- an accusation. you are just in one fell swoop
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the entire airline industry. >> the airasia craft most recently has some roots in the low cost industry and the approach they take to flying. it is clear that the many layers of redundancy and safety in aviation have been eroded post regulation. >> i want to bring gary in to this conversation. far pilot who discloses having dealt with depression they can in fact return to fly even continue to fly under some very specific circumstances. isn't that correct? >> that's absolutely correct. i personally am following right now probably 20 pilots who are in the program that was started back in 2010 that allows pilots who, to be on certain antidepressant medication, who undergo psychological testing including neuropsychological
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testing, reviews, it's a very closely watched program and been very successful and hopefully doesn't make pilots go underground and not report when they need treatment for depression. >> all right, guys. stand by because we've got more coming up. we're going to take a closer look for example, at some of the calls under way right now for change in the wake of this tragedy, whether it's the cockpit door that the first officer used or a pilot screening, keeping more than one person on a flight deck at all times and later, it's written on the side of every new york city police cruiser. courtesy, professionalism, and respect. with that in mind does this traffic stop look like any of those three? >> let me tell you something, the next time you do it again -- >> okay. >> okay what you don't let me [ bleep ] finish? stop interrupting me. >> it goes on and on and all caught on camera. we have details and quite a discussion all ahead on "360."
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to help you feel less hungry between meals. experience the meta effect with our multi-health wellness line. cockpit door on flight 9525, it was so secure it ended up on the plane. we look at what might be done in the wake of this incident. first, some background from "360"'s randi kaye. >> reporter: value jet flight 592 from miami to atlanta, the day before mother's day, 1996. the pilots hear a loud boom six minutes into the flight. >> what kind of problem are you having? >> smoke in the cabin. >> reporter: the aircraft crashes nose first into the floored everglades killing all
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110 people on board. the ntsb determined the fire began in a cargo compartment. >> if we had fire detection system in this cargo compartment, the crew would have afforded more time to get the airplane back on the ground. >> reporter: the faa took those words to heart, revising standards for cargo, requiring smoke detectorerss and automatic fire extinguishers in cargo holds. >> may day. going down. >> reporter: fire was a problem in 1983 when air canada flight 797 made an emergency landing at cincinnati's airport. it had a fire in the bathroom. >> we had a fire in the back washroom and it's filling up with smoke right now. >> reporter: incredibly the plane landed safely but half the passengers and crew died because they couldn't exit the plane fast enough. that gave rise to new fire safety standards, including bathroom smoke detectors and
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automatic fire extinguishers. smoke in the cockpit was the problem on swiss air flight 111 after it took off from new york's jfk airport in 1998. >> swissair 111. >> reporter: it crashed off nova scotia killing all 129 people on board. after investigators traced the fire back to the entertainment system and the flammable insulation, had all mylar replaced. brought down four planes after fighting their way into the cockpit using box cutters. >> america 11 are you trying to call? >> everything will be okay. if you try to make any moves, you will injure yourself and the
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airplane. just stay quiet. >> reporter: the 9/11 terror attack led to reinforced cockpit doors on all commercial airplanes. the doors so strong they can resist bullets, even sh raprapnel from a hand grenade. the ax isn't either but after flight 370 mysteriously disappeared in 2014 investigators wonder if the flight might have been doomed by a crew member. some took issue with those new cockpit doors. >> one either had to be incapacitated or locked out. that's one of the concerns we had after 9/11. don't lock those doors so that you can't get in from the outside if something happens. and fell on deaf ears. >> reporter: and the germanwings crash wasn't the first time the pilot was locked out of the cockpit. in 2013 the cockpit door kept a mozambique from getting inside the cockpit after a bathroom break, locked out while the
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plane's pilot took off auto pilot and crashed it into the ground killing 33 people. all of this raising the question who needs to be protected more the pilots or the passengers? randi kaye cnn, new york. >> all these years later, still so chilling to hear mohammed ata in the plane. back with richard quest and bruce, a former flight instructor and focus on aviation systems development. richard, as we saw in randi's report there's often a strong place to make safety changes in the wake of a crash and do it quick lu quickly, but sometimes do they go too far? >> they have unintended consequences wolf. some changes can be made quickly and probably should have been there in the first place. two people in the cockpit. we know the history of why europe didn't have them. low cost carrier said to me
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today, immediately afterwards. it does have unintended but the worst thing is to rush into, a knee jerk reaction that creates another problem that you don't discover for several months and that's not bureaucratic nonsense just speaking and saying wait and see what the investigation says. it means in aviation you've really got to look and think, what am i trying to solve, will this solve it and what other problem will it create if i do it? >> bruce, we've talked a lot about live streaming the data from the plane's black boxes and a lot of people are making the point that wouldn't necessarily have prevented this crash, but you've actually been part of some of these programs working on new technology that could do just that prevent a plane from crashing explain. >> well there are emerging technologies wolf that come to play in a time i would say that matters in a practical sense
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over the next few years, not many years. one of the technologies is an air-to-ground and ultimately space to air wi-fi system. i'm talking about true broadband wi-fi that makes it like an intranet with security features and what that enables is everything we've taken for granted in our home offices and workplaces about the ability of the internet to provide us with the information we needed very high speeds another feature of the landscape that's emerging is what's called both in the u.s. and europe trajectory based operation or tbo airspace where we're going to be able to manage flight paths with computational tools that allow us to do optimization and safety at the same time. what that leads to is an ability to watch what's happening, presumably from the ground and look at conformance of the flight path to what was intended and when you see something out
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of conformance, then you investigate, human's in the loop checking with the cockpit, captain, co-captain and if it doesn't all add up then take over and take over from the ground. these are technologies that are with us today in many applications and can be merged converged into a system that will be another level of safety net which is very typical of our industry. >> but bruce, this basic technology you're talking about, let's say this intranet for airplanes, how soon could all of that be installed? >> well the infrastructure for this system will begin deploying within the next two years or so. and industry is working towards deploying these systems, of course they have to also install radios data radios as they're sometimes called or digital radios in the airplanes. it's like having a router in
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your airplane essentially, and that process will take some time obviously, for the airplanes to equip, but the good news there is that as these volumes increase costs come down and not only that because of radios enable more efficient flight paths, it's even more conceivable to talk in terms of the radios paying for themselves because of those improved efficiencies. >> it's amazing, the technology is there and going to be there relatively soon. thank you. just ahead -- the nypd finds one in an uber driver disturbing video taken by one of the passengers. >> i don't know what [ bleep ] planet you think you're on right now. >> i'm here. >> planning? i said planet. >> i know. >> stay there.
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tonight, the nypd investigating a disturbing video in which a man who seems to be a plain clothes police officer
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with an uber officer. one passenger put this online. said in an unmarked car tried to park without using turn signal. the uber driver gestured at him to use his blinker and then the officer pulled up behind the uber driver. we're going to show you more of the video, but first, we want to make it clear the nypd has not confirmed in a statement to cnn and i'm quoting now, the man is a member of the nypd and the incident is being investigated by internal affairs. watch this. >> you understand me? >> sir -- >> you understand sne. >> yes. >> you stop with your stop with [ bleep ], and realize the three traffic violation laws you committed, okay? do you understand me? i don't know what planet you think you're on. >> i'm not planning sir, i'm here. >> planet. i said planet. [ bleep ], and stay there. let me tell you, next time you
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do it again, you're getting your. >> okay. >> you're not letting me finish. stop interrupting me. >> i apologize. i'm sorry. >> who do you think you're talking to here? how long you been in this country? >> almost two years. >> almost how long? >> two years. >> i got news for you and use this lesson. remember this in the future don't ever do that again. the only reason you're not in handcuffs going to jail and getting in the precinct is because i have things to do. that's the only reason that's not happening. because this isn't important enough for me. you're not important enough. >> uber calls the video unacceptable and appreciates the fact the nypd is now investigating. joining us to discuss the retired nypd detective, harry howe and cnn political commentator van jones. what do you make of this video? >> there's no way i can condone the actions of this officer. he is definitely totally out of control, showing no respect for
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this driver. i'm watching this video here and i'm flabbergasted. i feel so bad for this driver. it's just unbelievable. the fact he's a plain clothes officer, harry, what does that say to you, a plain clothes officer be stopping a vehicle like this to begin with? >> well some plain clothes officers do make stops if they're in robbery, but not like in a suit. this guy is in a suit and looks like he's driving home by himself in unmarked car. so i don't know where he was going or what he was doing, but seems to me if this guy had time on the job also this is some kind of behavior you might expect from some rookie who doesn't know what he's doing. this officer should have known better and the stop he made here doesn't look like it's an illegal stop either. >> it's hard to not get angry watching this video. the driver seems like he reacted perfectly as someone could expect someone to react given the circumstances. >> exactly.
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>> absolutely. police officers are supposed to arrest people for road rage not subject people to road rage. i mean, that's the thing. the kind of behavior you saw from the police officer is the kind of behavior you hope somebody would be arrested for doing, not being the actual police officer. but i think something more important here is at the end when he starts almost making fun of him for being from another country. that is very very destructive and i'm so glad we have some of these things caught on camera. you've had communities for a long time saying the police treat us differently. and we don't have equal, and we want the police to treat us the same as others and some people said look, you are playing the race card. thls this is not happening. should be more respectful to police but here is a classic example of someone who is desperately trying to show this officer respect and even his efforts are bringing more mockery and that's dangerous and
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to the point it's not a rookie and some parts of our country, this has become a culture of contempt. some people are treated one way and others differently. that's wrong. it has to stop. >> harry, the officer essentially threatens the driver with going to jail if in fact all this driver did was simply gesture what he believed to be a regular civilians car to use the blinker that drivers shouldn't be using, was that really warranted? >> no. i don't think the stop was warranted. but to get back to what mr. jones said let's not blink at all officers in this country that will act like this on a car stop. this is one individual, all right, who has done this and i like to think most police officers don't act that way. apparently, this officer had a bug up his butt for something. and yes, that driver was probably one of the most cooperative drivers i've ever seen that i ever even pulled over trying to calm that officer
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down the way he was trying to talk to him. >> you know van, the officer at one point asked him, you pointed out, where are you from? which raises questions about whether that's an appropriate question to ask, civil rights violation, perhaps. what do you think? >> well, it's very very dangerous as an officer now. if he's acting under color of law and seems to be acting under color of law and subjecting this person to different treatment because of the color of his skin that is unlawful in the united states. what that means is that this person we don't know where he's from we don't know anything about him but not only can he file a complaint as he did to get the officer disciplined demoted or even fired, but he can also go into our court system and get civil rights remedy and redressed. listen it's very important for us to understand that some people have these kinds of experiences more often than others and it makes us live almost in two different societies. i believe that officer, if that
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same officer, 20 minutes earlier was probably being very respectful to someone who looked very different and so you got to understand that people -- >> you can't say that mr. jones. >> listen i would imagine that you don't get the chance to be in the police force as long as he has treating everyone that way. >> i don't condone the man's behavior at all, okay it was totally out of control as far as i'm concerned, but there's nothing to indicate here that he made this stop because of the guy's, where he's from. i think that was just a stupid comment the officer made while he was engaged in the, you know, in the crazy behavior. >> what kind of discipline do you think the officer deserves? >> i think this officer is definitely going to be in a hell of a lot of trouble. we're talking about this on cnn. he's probably going to get suspended a couple days something like that. i don't see the officer being fired for something like this. he might be retrained. but maybe a couple days suspension. but he's going to get hammered this guy. because nypd doesn't like
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looking at this and the nypd doesn't want their officers acting like this. >> yeah. i expect a public apology as well. >> without a doubt. should be a public apology to that man. >> because the video is out there and everybody can watch it. harry, van jones, guys thank you very much. good discussion. controversy, meanwhile, in the heartland as the governor of indiana defends the intention of religious freedom law critics say is anti-gay. latest from indianapolis that's up next. and the controversy also spreading to arkansas where the state house has just passed a very similar bill. i'll speak with the state representative who proposed it. my constipation and belly pain feel like a raging storm. i've tried laxatives but my symptoms keep returning. my constipation feels like a heavy weight that keeps coming back. vo: linzess can help. once-daily linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. linzess is thought to help calm pain-sensing nerves and accelerate bowel movements.
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the governor of indiana was excited about the freedom of religious act into law but misunderstanding about what the law does and does not do. critics say it's a veil disguised for discrimination against gay people allowing businesses to deny them services for religious reasons. boycotts petitions, protests and opposition for the black and white on the front page of the indianapolis star today. the headline reads, fix this
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now. at news conference mike pence said the law about religious freedom, not discrimination. at the same time defended the law and said it was mischaracterized and wants it to be clarified. >> i'd like to see on my desk before the end of the week legislation that is added to the religious freedom restoration act in indiana that makes it clear that this law does not give businesses the right to deny services to anyone. >> miguel marquez is joining us live from indiana. what is the reaction to governor pence saying he wants some sort of clarification to this new law? >> reporter: show it to us simply put. people want to see exactly what it is the governor is talking about. interestingly enough there was language this morning on the table. i understand the speaker of the house is reaching out to state holders across the state, businesses sports leaders, activists, everyone basically, universities trying to come up with a new plan.
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we could see that in a committee here at the state capitol as early as tomorrow. wolf? >> the governor said there needs to be a careful balance with clarification that will mean different things to different people. tell us about that. >> reporter: i mean, this is where it comes down to. all of this is because laws have become part of the gay marriage debate. businesses concerned. i asked the governor himself his personal feelings about deeply held beliefs of christian businesses and should they have to perform things like baking photography, or floral arrangements of gay weddings? he dodged the question and that's related to that specific question and that's where we see this debate coming to across the country. >> it's intensified to be sure. my gill, miguel thank you very much. not the only one in the country. arkansas the house of
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representatives passed a similar bill. joining us now, jeffrey toobin and joining us representative bob ballenger of the arkansas house of representatives. he proposed the bill. why is your bill necessary? what specific threats to religious freedom can you cite because a lot of people say bills like yours are simply a reaction to the growing legalization of same-sex marriage across the country. >> we've heard that over and over again. i really believe it's a bit of a mischaracterization. you look at it and bill clinton signed the original and voted on by all of congress. the first state illinois voted on by president barack obama who at that time was state senator and i think you look at it got kind of a bad name. lumped in with something that's a debate that really never should have been included?
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>> there's a half century of federal precedent that said can't discriminate for a wide range of reasons gender, race religion. here's the question. should gay and lesbian citizens of the united states receive that same protection? >> i think that's something should be bedebated. i think that's a different piece of legislation. there's no protection provided on the federal law or actually in the state that gives those additional protections. and allow someone to believe what they haven'twant to believe unless there's a real good reason to do so. my focus was to effect the religious side the person to be able to believe what they want to believe and so if somebody else wants to provide the additional protection, that would require separate piece of legislation altogether and that was introduced but never brought forth and debated. i really feel like it's misplaced anger, i think.
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>> let me get jeffrey involved. what do you make of the representative's arguments? >> like mike pence, he's not answering the question. these laws exist for one purpose, which is to allow religious people not to serve commercial relationships with same-sex weddings. isn't it true that this bill will allow religiously sincere people not to participate, not to serve as florists as photographers for same-sex weddings isn't that what this law does? >> no there's no protected class. so an individual can discriminate against anybody for any reason as long as it's not one of those protected classes, federal or state law. my bill has no effect on that at all. there's no discrimination. in fact only discrimination that this bill would affect is people who hold certain beliefs. it has nothing to do with any
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other type of discrimination. >> i read the bill. the bill allows people to say that they are religiously opposed to same-sex marriages, so they will not, so they don't have participate. they don't have to sell their services to them. >> you don't have to give me the section where it says that. now if you're talking about the fact we're under strict scrutiny standard and go to a heightened scrutiny like 31 other states are on like the federal government is on well true that is there. but frankly, that's the same as it is in every one of those. in fact a minority of the states give the heightened protection for religion. so i really think that as it is right now, it won't change anything because there's no protected class given to the lbgt community. if that's done we need to debate it. i want to protect somebody's. >> representative iveative ballenger,
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when you see what's happening in the backlash, do you worry the same thing could happen in arkansas where he said he's going to sign into law? >> you know, right now there's a whole lot of energy. a lot of people who are upset and they really like to see some of these things change and i understand that. and frankly, i am even a individual to get involved with it. when the dust settles, i think they'll realize 31 other states already have a strict scrutiny standard. this is similar to what was voted on by bill clinton and voted on by our president, the one that has been in place in a lot of other states and actually there's never been the sky hasn't fallen in other places. i think we'll find eventually the people realize it. it's kind of hard to boycott more than half the states. i think people primarily are concerned about their market and
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can they come here and is the tax time such it's beneficial to business do we have a trained workforce? those are things people are concerned about. >> representative ballenger, thank you. jeffrey, thanks. just ahead, the latest on the iran nuclear talks as they try to agree on a framework for the deal. what are the diplomats saying? we have new information. denver international is one of the busiest airports in the country. we operate just like a city and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal generating electricity on-site and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment.
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woman: it's been a journey to get where i am. and i didn't get here alone. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options.
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kept me on track. and through it all my retirement never got left behind. so today, i'm prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be. every someday needs a plan. let's talk about your old 401(k) today. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. u.s. officials say iran's
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nuclear negotiation is going to extend another day as long as there's productive. let's go to chief national security correspondent jim sciutto joining us with the latest. what are you hearing, jim? >> reporter: for the general kind of framework agreement they're trying to reach by what was meant to be tonight's deadline but now merging into tomorrow that looks possible with those outlines but keep in mind that's not really going to be an agreement on paper. the iranians say they're not going to sign anything at this point. they're waiting for the final agreement and it does leave some of the most contentious issues unresolved and that's a real problem because those are the issues that have been holding up these negotiations not just for this latest 24 hour delay, but keep in mind these talks have been extended for months a number of times so far and they started more than a year and a half ago. >> what are the major sticking points in the past 24 hours? >> reporter: if you combine the
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hints behind the scenes it's a few things. sanctions relief on iran it's believed the west wants to be able to phase them out so they can keep pressure on iran. another big question is the disposition of iran's enormous stockpile of enriched uranium, it was only 48 hours ago the iranian said said it would not ship it out of the country they've been talking about for some time had been to russia reprocess into something safer, they said that's no longer the case but then you heard from u.s. officials that's still on the table but it does seem that issue at least has not been decided. those are two pretty major issues to not have decided at this stage. that leaves a lot of work on the table, not just for tomorrow interim deadline but for the final deadline june 30th and raises questions as to whether you could get a deal both sides are happy with. >> the white house just released the photo telling us he was on a secure conference call with the secretary of state, the secretary of energy. they are in switzerland to get a
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full briefing and update as the white house sets on the current status of the negotiations. we'll see what happens in the next few hours. jim sciutto, thanks very much. ahead, a small german town shaken to the core by unthinkable act of native son.
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a week ago tonight, all we knew is that germanwings 9525 carrying 150 people had gone
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down in the french alps on a clear day with no distress call. within 48 hours terrible tragedy had become the unthinkable. from the moment the first victim went to culprit, the small hometown looking for answers that may not exist in the community that's hurting. here's cnn's will ripley. >> reporter: since the crash of the germanwings plane a week ago, most of those who live in this small german town kept their silence. not wanting to let the world know how they're coping with the awful truth that the plane's co-pilot was born and raised here but that silence is beginning to break bit by bit. >> our purpose is to have a silent and secure place for the people that they have a room for their tears, for their big questions. for consolation and prayer. >> a beautiful church named after the apostle paul built
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what's called a memorial wall in mon ta bower, a place anyone could pray for understanding an cnn was allowed to take a glimpse. on the wall a single german word. varum. why? the wife of the pastor here. >> we do not have any answer but we bring our answered questions to god. >> reporter: mrs. ceeman said she didn't know the co-pilot and no one in montebaur has. >> i think it's too early to expresz express forgiveness. they're in the first stage. it takes a lot of time.
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>> reporter: the town is still reeling, too wary of strangers and cameras. >> >> it's a very normal city in an extreme situation. i think all the people the grief and mourning is more difficult because of a special tension. we don't know the victims, but we know or at least some of us and that brings an enormous tension. >> reporter: nevertheless she says there have been surprises. >> we are deeply thankful for many people all over the world who are praying for us who express their solidarity with the city. we need a lot of time. >> reporter: when we were there,
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a lone parishioner sat in the front row, so close to the memorial wall she could almost touch it and in front of her, the german word. why? will ripley in dusseldorf germany. hbo's crisis hotline veterans press 1 starts now.