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teacher. and without this program, i would be in jail or dead. >> when i see a kid have their moment it makes you realize that we are doing work that matters. >> choose your sound! >> to nominate ayour hero go to cnnhere e row.com. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good eefvening, i'm wolf blitzer sitting in for anderson. every single story tonight could lead, because it has been that big of a day. we begin with the framework for the agreement to keep iran from turning nuclear program into a nuclear arsenal. with european, russian and chinese negotiators called everything to tougher to more specific than expected to dangerous and delusional.
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president obama facing resistance from certain democrats, rejection from many republicans and total opposition from israel's prime minister defended the deal in no uncertain terms and laid out three alternatives. >> first, we can reach a robust and verifiable deal like this one and peacefully prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. second option is we can bomb iran's nuclear facilities, thereby starting another war in the middle east. third, we could pull out of negotiations, try to get other countries to go along and continue sanctions currently in place or add additional ones and hope for the best. >> what a tough political sell this could be but jim sciutto is joining us with details on what negotiates agreed to. jim, break this deal down for our viewers. what exactly does it look? >> you take all the elements of iran's nuclear program that has caused consternation here in washington and western capitals for year and it does not dismantle them or detroy them but it modifies them or puts them under greater restrictions. and for instance take theed ed forthe
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fordo facility which is reinforced and designed to withstand american or israeli bombs, and it doesn't shut it down but keeps centrifuges there, but said they can't spin uranium. that's the new normal there. takes, for instance, iran's arsenal of 19,000 centrifuges. doesn't get rid of all of them. leaves 5,000 of them. a 75% reduction and another path to a bomb potentially was the iraq heavy water facility. again, doesn't tear it down. modifies it, changes its reactor so it can't produce material for a bomb. all these things to create that one yearlong breakout period that the obama administration said is the goal. in exchange, west promises to lift economic sanctions built up against iran for years. remarkable international coalition but retains the right to put them back on if iran at any point in this agreement or after this agreement fails to comply.
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that's the trade-off. the skeptics will say you haven't torn down enough of the program and the supporters say, this is better than the option when iran might expand the program more. >> and jim, the president spoke out today, and he said that he thinks that, quote, this is a good deal. what is the reakction so far from iran? i understand that they are pretty happy over there? >> no question. celebrations. you're seeing pictures in the street of people driving around honking horns and waving flags. a new twitter phenomenon of people taking quote unquote selfies with president obama because his speech in the rose garden was broadcast live on iranian state television. that's a first. it's truly remarkable and have to understand for the people of iran, i've been there more than ten times, they've been looking forward to this moment for decades. it's not just a nuclear agreement or a diplomatic accord but for them it is
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taking iran out of prison, and out of the pariah status, and today, in iran, you have to pay two or three times for a car and they have to be smuggled in, and it is hard to go to the universities that you want to go to and it is hard to get the chemotherapy drugs that you want and it is of course hard for the government to get all of the oil revenue it wants, and for the iranian people, it is chance to be a normal country, and that is what they have been looking forward to for some time. really, remarkable amount of celebration because for them, this is a life changing moment. >> it is if the sanctions are eased and then eventually lifted, billions of dollars will flow into that iranian economy for those iranian people. jim sciutto, thanks very much. reaction from the gamut. cautious optimism from the senate minority leader harry reid and house speaker john boehner calling it an alarming departure from original goals. any agreement would make the world a more dangerous place. joining us with political fallout from all sides, jim
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acosta from the white house. i know congress is in recess but a lot of reaction from around washington and what is the latest? >> that is right, wolf. the white house is concerned about this wolf. at this point, the senior administration officials say they don't want congress to move forward with any kind of new sanctions legislation on iran while this diplomatic process continues. keep in mind today was just a tentative agreement. there's still another one to be reached by june 30th. at this point, you can say the democrats are standing by and waiting for more details but republicans are laying into this deal, wolf. senator marco rubio, potentially running for president, likely to run for president in 2016. he has a comment. we'll put it up on screen. message to iran should be clear until the regime chooses a different path. isolates iran and today's announcement puts us in the opposite direction and i fear we'll have devastating consequences for nuclear non-proliferation and the security of our allies and partners and for the u.s. interests in the region.
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wolf, he is not the only potential 2016er who has weighed in. jeb bush put out a tweet earlier this evening and said i cannot stand behind the reported details of this flawed iran agreement but the one person we're waiting to hear on is hillary clinton. she put out a statement earlier this evening saying that diplomacy should be given a chance. people looking to see whether or not she would distance herself from the president and said she did not. >> she said it's important to comprehensive agreement to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon and strengthen the security of united states, israel, and the region. speaking of israel, the president made a phone call to benjamin netanyahu to discuss this unprecedented deal. tell us about that conversation. what do we know? >> reporter: that's right. that's one of the many phone calls the president is making or will make. he also talked to the king of saudi arabia and talk with congressional leaders. but this call with the prime
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minister benjamin netanyahu, and we know that they don't have a good relationship, and it is strained in recent weeks, and perhaps more so in the coming weeks. according to various phone calls, one from the white house, the president, of course, told the israelis that their security will not be at stake with this iran deal but that is not the readout we got from the israeli government. the spokesman for prime minister netanyahu was tweeting erlarlier that he told the president during the phone call that this deal as it stands right now will threaten israel's survival. i imagine we'll hear from the prime minister in the coming days. >> the deal on this framework would threaten the survival of israel and not block the path to the bomb, it would pave it. negative reaction coming in from israelis. jim acosta. thank you very much. more on what this all means. to put into perspective and dig deeper on the deal itself. chief international correspondent, christiane amanpour and david kay, the former chief weapons inspector in iraq.
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currently serves on the state department's international security advisory board, and former george w. bush senior director security council michael durand. christiane, after looking at the specifics of the framework agreement, is it a good deal for the united states? what do you make of this? >> well the president, himself, said today that this was a his historic opportunity, and if it's implemented, it is a very, very good deal, and of course, it's not perfect. nothing is perfect. but it is the best that could be achieved at this time. and he said that if you look at all the specifics, the draconian inspections, the fact they'll only have a certain amount of enrichment and dismantled, et cetera, this is the most strictly governed nuclear accord of any nuclear program ever in history. so that, i think, is pretty convincing from the president of the united states. just from the side of iran, this is really being taken with great excitement there by the people.
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the people of iran who have desperately wanted this for the first time, i think ever, the speech from the president of the united states is broadcast live on national iranian television and that's significant because president obama laid out this fact sheet which then the foreign minister, the negotiator tweeted, oh, there's no need to lay out the fact sheets so soon because that has the details. iran made concessions. >> we saw them pictures in the streets celebrating. mike you think it is a bad deal, and you think that it might make a nuclear breakout for iran more likely, is that your opinion? >> yes, it is. but before i would say it is a bad deal i would say it is not really a deal yet. the ptresident and john kerry are pretending that there is more there than there is. they had to head off the senate
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and so they are presenting, this is kind of a done deal when there's a lot of room yet for negotiation. christiane mentioned that jahvid sarif was tweeting about the fact sheet. he tweeted the administration is claiming that the sanctions are going to be rolled back gradually and he said they'll be rolled back immediately. there's a huge difference on major issues. >> we'll see how quickly those sanctions are rolled back assuming they're implemented. you say the framework you've seen so far is good but the key issue is how the framework will actually be implemented. how challenging is that going to be? >> well, there are two key issues. one is it's a framework. you have to negotiate a very complex arrangement. that's the first. and the second is how do you actually implement this and particularly, how do you implement over 10, 15, 25 years? choose your number because they're scattered applying to different things in this. that's very difficult and in the history of arms control, almost unprecedented. >> israelis not happy with this
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deal, david, as you well know. let me get your reaction, christiane. israeli intelligence minister was quick to condemn it. i know the president had a conversation with the prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and the iz rasraelis that i have seen, they don't like the deal. >> well we knew that. they don't. they have been trying to make sure that the deal does not happen for a long time, and the mantra from president netanyahu is that no deal is better than a bad deal. so they have never liked it. they believed it just sort of kicks the ball down the road and of course, the sunni arab partners of the united states on the same page as israel in this regard. they don't like it at all. prince turkey, the former intelligence minister from saudi arabia told me that he thought it would kick off an arms race in the region. i do however think i can agree with what both gentlemen just said.
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we do know it has yet to be implemented and yet to be fully signed off, there are a lot of technical issues and details to be fully negotiated by the real deadline which is june 30th. and then we really don't know because it isn't clear exactly the parameters of when the sanctions will be lifted. iran wants them all lifted, sort of immediately. if they implement it, as jahvid is a -- sarif said. the notion of phase, certainly the iranians don't talk about it as phase relief. >> you know, mike, under the framework agreement, the u.s. sanctions involving the nuclear program, they eventually would be eased but the sanctions dealing with iran support for terrorism, human rights abuses, they will remain in place. is that okay? >> well, i don't think we should kid ourselves. once we start removing these sanctions up front, there's going to be a huge economic boon
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to iran and its status in the international community is going to be changed overnight. and that should worry us greatly. they're not going to have an economic boon or commercial partners, a new status in the international system, and they will be in a much strengthened position from which to break out. >> david, the inspections, you were u.n. weapons inspector. do you think they'll be allowed to go wherever they need to go? the iranians really open their military facilities any place there's a suspicion the iranians might be up to something? >> that's the easy part of figuring out whether you're allowed to go where you want to go. the hard part is understanding where you want to go. that depends on first of all the iranians have to make a complete, accurate and full disclosure of what they had, their history is they've never done that before. secondly, over the course of time, and this is a dynamic economy. it's a dynamic scientific
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program. you're going to depend on intelligence. you're going to be flooded with exile and reports from the israelis and saudis, others, a place you should go, you're going to have to set out what is really possible and where you should go. this is a monumental task for the iea and quite frankly, one they're not equipped to do unless u.s. and other powers are prepared to increase the resources beyond what they have now. >> david kay, thank you very much. christiane amanpour, mike durand, thanks to all of you. quick reminder, set your dvr to watch "360" whenever you like. up next uncover inging the second black box of flight 9525 and uncovering more troubling details about what the homicidal pilot was thinking prior to crash. this is just incredible breaking news we're watching a sailor who
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andreas lubitz did to bring the plane down. others reveal just how premeditated his actions were how mentally ill he may have been and how far he went to treat it or conceal it. all that and more tonight from pamela brown in germany. >> reporter: tonight, new evidence reveals andreas lubitz prepared to crash the plane in the alps, allegedly searching the internet in the days leading up to the crash for ways to commit suicide and the security of cockpit doors. today a german prosecutor said that investigators found a tablet in lieu bits's apartment including browsing history from the week right before the crash. a european official tells cnn the new evidence shows lubitz's actions were premeditated. a french prosecutor said lubitz voluntarily brought the plane down. >> to prevent the overspeed alarm, he would have acted twice, not only the loss of altitude but adjusting.
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he was alive and conscious up until the moment of the impact, we are almost certain. >> reporter: investigators finally recovered the charred flight data recorder found buried in the ground. the data will include information on whether the plane was on auto pilot or whether lubitz controlled the plane all of the way down. >> the speed of the plane, the altitude the power of the engine, these elements are absolutely vital in order to s a ascertain the truth. >> a law enforcement source say thass that after a severe depressive episode in 2009 he relapsed in 2014. just before the crash, he was shopping around for doctors, at least five seeing a sleep specialist a eye doctor and a neuropsychologist. lubitz apparently told some doctors he was fearful of losing pilot license because of medical- issues and that remains a leading motive for the deadly crash.
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>> joining us from dusseldorf, pamela, we know he made these disturbing internet searches in the week before the crash. do prosecutors know anything else about his behavior in the final days? >> reporter: well, investigators know that he was still flying. he was still a pilot in that window, wolf, and he was searching the internet for methods on how to commit suicide and cockpit doors and security measures. in fact, investigators interviewed a pilot he flew with the day before the plane crash and that pilot told investigators he was acting very normal. they had just regular conversation, that there was nothing out of the ordinary. sources i've been speaking with believe that lubitz sees the opportunity when the crash happened as soon as the captain left the cockpit in order to fly that plane into the mountain. wolf you have to wonder what that pilot he flew with the day before is thinking. >> pamela brown, thanks very much. from doctor shopping to the
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drugs he was taking, all of this raising lots of questions. chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, the co-pilot was prescribed what has been called and i quote heavy depressive medicine that had been very heavy on the body. what types of effect would these kinds of medicines have? >> well, when you talk about medications that are treating depression, sometimes they can make someone sleepy. they can be sedating but also have nearly the opposite effect, wolf. somebody who's very depressed, they are given a powerful antidepressant. sometimes, if they are bipolar, for example, it can sort of make them become more the sort of manic side of things. there are so many details about this whole story that are still unclear and frankly, the pieces coming in still don't make sense in aggregate. you feel there's pieces missing but a heavy antidepressant would have one of those effects, wolf. >> possibly could have been under the influence of this medication when he actually crashed the plane?
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>> it's possible, but again, you know, when you hear some of the interactions, it doesn't sound like anyone noticed anything abnormal. the day before, it sounds like someone who had flown with him did not notice anything abnormal. less likely if someone was quite sedated, may be noticeable but maybe more likely to be noticed if he had become manic in some way, had flight of ideas and doing things that were irrational. those sorts of things might be more noticeable than to people on the staff. >> in the days leading up to the crash we're now told he actually searched on his computer for both suicide methods and security measures related to cockpit doors, sanjay, and you say that the searches are pointing to vastly different things. explain. >> well, look. i think this is the inflection point. i think this is where people have been sort of tiptoeing around or not sure what to make of it. it's again, one of the
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situations you don't feel you have enough information. if you were doing searches online and looking at suicide, the idea of flying a plane full of people into a mountain would not be one of the things that would come up in one of those searches. there are things that come up when you search for suicide. if you wanted to just commit suicide, you could have done it on a practice flight. he could have done it in other ways if he was intent on doing it with an airplane. so the idea that at some point this flipped from being a question of suicide to a question of i'm also going to kill many other people with me when i commit suicide is sort of that inflection point that just doesn't make much sense. >> yeah, obviously. we know the pilot was essentially doctor-shopping in the period before the crash, and investigators have found that the doctors were not negligent in handling the case but regarding those not fit to work notes, what is the doctor's duty in a case like this?
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>> i've had a lot of conversations with colleagues about this and even looked through some of our own training again to get a better idea. typically what happens, if i were in this situation, i'm not a psychiatrist but if i were in this situation, worried about someone hurting themselves or others, first, i'd call a psychiatrist and question whether a person should be committed to the hospital right away for their own safety but also before i would let the person's employer or other people know, i would tell that person. i would go there, sometimes in the hospitals, you do that with other staff or security present. you say to the patient, i'm worried enough. i've made this decision that i'm worried enough to tell your employer of these concerns and relay information to them. we should point out, the doctors in europe were not found to have been negligent in any way. no compulsory action they must do that. it's sort of an ad hoc basis. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thanks as usual. >> you got it wolf. thank you.
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we'll continue the conversation after the break. joined by a leading neuropsychologist who designed a screening test for pilots, would-be pilots and a top crash detective and leading aviation attorney. later, a new terror tragedy. this time a college campus. 147 people dead, how to protect places that have now become attractive targets for would-be killers.
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today's revelations about what flight 9525's co-pilot had on his tablet about suicide, the cockpit doors and the medical news of the black box all add up to a lot to talk about. let's get right to it. joining us, neuropsychologist developed a cognitive test in the united states to be used by the faa, in fact, airlines around the world. joining us the aviation attorney and pilot justin green and cnn safety analyst david soucie, former faa crash investigator, author of "malaysia airlines flight 370, why it disappeared and why it's a matter of time before this happens again." gary, the internet searches show that this co-pilot had something that was going on. he thought about it and it looked like a premeditated act but took advantage of the opportunity, the captain, for example, to leave the cockpit on
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a fairly short flight for him to carry it out. what do you make of all of this? >> obviously, we see a lot of in-tact brain function, right? somebody who's organized, determined, focused, deliberate. serious emotional problems and moral problems but somebody who didn't create suspicion in the captain flying with him. that's why the captain would have left the cockpit. >> had to go to the bathroom, came back, and the door was locked. the cockpit door. the searchers finally have the second black box, the cockpit voice recorder, but we actually know what happened, right? the co-pilot brought down that plane. what's the flight data recorder going to tell us? >> well, i'm hopeful this flight data recorder is recording the movement of the door lock, it would open the recording of the opening and closing of the door
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but whether or not it would tell us whether the pilot attempted to get into the door with the key pad, and whether or not he did would tell us if that buzzer went off, and whether he held it down to keep him out of that cobtcob cockpit would confirm our suspicions now. >> justin, you think there's something important to search for at the crash site, possibly even more important than that flight data recorder. tell us what it is. >> i think the pilot's body has not been a report that the pilot's body has been found and as the doctor just mentioned, he was getting some treatment. so it's going to be interesting to see whether he had drugs in his system and if so, whether that may have played a factor. >> gary, the co-pilot had, in fact, been prescribed some very heavy drugs before the crash but investigators don't think he was taking them. he had seen several doctors, some of them knew he was a pilot. by all accounts, the doctors acted as though they were
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presumably as they were expected to act and required but it still seems like there were so many missed opportunities to stop this. do you agree with that? >> well, i mean, i think if your suspicion level gets to a point where you have an opportunity to protect others, then in fact, that's where confidentiality has to end. okay? so we actually have a responsibility if we feel that we can protect others or warn other ifs a threat has been made. >> dave, the more we learn about what the co-pilot's doctors knew, it makes new reporting or screening requirements seem that much more necessary. do you think we're going to see changes to medical screening, particularly, the mental health portion because of this? >> i think that it will first go more towards environmental screening. for example, being able to report, again, whether you've had a break-up or a divorce or a move. but again, that still relies a lot on the pilot's self-reporting.
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so that has to be examined really closely. i don't know what the answer is. i don't think anybody does. but we certainly all agree there has to be something done in the industry right now. >> i think you're right. justin, part of the investigation will be interviewing everyone who interacted with the law enforcement source. saying one person reported, he seemed normal on the flight the day before the crash. what will they be asking, what could they find out by talking, lets say, to more of his colleagues? >> you just said something about missed opportunities and i think the first missed opportunity was before he was hired, and i think there's going to have to be a much more robust prescreening of pilots coming into the industry. pilots who don't have a history that can be relied on, but also in the coming days, they'll be interviewing many, many people. obviously, he saw doctors. he knew he had a problem. his doctors knew he had a problem. from the stories, his girlfriend knew he had a problem. we'll see whether his fellow employees, the pilots and the air crew he dealt with on a daily basis saw anything that
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caused concern. >> i would say we know from what we've heard about his flight training, he interrupted flight training for treatment of depression and that was in the u.s. he would have had a u.s. medical certificate, and he didn't report in which he would have been required to do by law that he had been treated for this depression in the u.s. if that would have come under review, his records of his treatment, his medications and all would have been known. so if he concealed that, he was already committing a major criminal act by failing to report after this treatment. >> do you believe, justin, the most important thing now is increased screening for new pilots, pilots with no track record? >> i'm not a doctor but as a lawyer, the company will come in and say we relied on doctors and the doctors are relying on self-reporting and in this case, the doctors are relying on the self-reporting of someone who,
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in hindsight, is somebody with very serious problems and an evil intent and that's a problem. >> it certainly is. david, co-pilots said they prevented from alarms going off. why would he do that? >> the only thing i can speculate on that is that he was trying to prevent an emergency signal or warning that goes back to the carrier. if you look at the speed of the care kraft aircraft and not to exceed the velocity and not exceed the that so that a signal did not go out and send a warning. it apparently to me it appears as though he was trying to make this look like it was just a normal descent or some kind of thing he was fighting in the aircraft. he didn't want people to know he had committed suicide is what i derived from that, he had done that. >> good point. david soucie, justin greene, gary cay. thank you.
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tonight, authorities in kenya are looking for this man in connection with a brazen attack at a university. 147 people were killed. dozens were wounded. the islamist militant group al-shabaab claimed responsibility. attacked the westgate shopping mall in nairubi two years ago. robin joining us with the latest. can you walk us through what happened? >> reporter: well, wolf, at about 5:30 this morning, students, some of whom walking to morning prayers, others who were asleep woken up by gunshots and explosions, we understand. what was immediately reported as a number of gunmen but we know
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understand from kenya's government to be only four gunmen essentially took control of the entire university for a few moments and killing security guards and shooting their way through throngs of people and going dormitory to dormitory and holing themselves up at 11:00 a.m. with a number of students. we estimated it to be anywhere from 200 to 500 students in that female dormitory. from then on the siege lasted with with the odd gunshot, explosions going off. a large crowd gathering outside. and that's when the witness testimonies started to tell us exactly what happened in those hours. how they said christians were targeted, muslims were allowed to leave by the gunmen and that christians were shot. a siege inside the female
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dormitory lasted a few hours until eventually special unit of the kenyan police forced their way in and not sure how many others were killed. it all ended around 10 this evening. >> robyn, in response, the kenyan president said kenya is suffering from a police shortage. what is the country doing to alleviate that problem? >> reporter: well, 10,000 police recruits, we assume are hitting the streets sooner than expected. however, the problem is that easter weekend. in fact, what is quite tragic wol wolf, is when in fact, most of the students who die edd in this attack were supposed to be going on the easter break which would have lasted until monday. essential essentially, it is very, very sad, and then the kenyan government has extended the condolences as has the white house. >> robyn kriel, thank you very much for that report. here, self-described islam
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accused of plotting to attack the united states. women, former roommates, focus of a lengthy undercover federal investigation. one allegedly called osama bin laden a hero and had a photo of him on her cell phone. the other recording to the criminal complaint made contact with terrorists overseas. cnn's jason carroll has more now on the alleged terror plot. >> reporter: they're u.s. citizens who live in queens, new york. the two women identified in a federal criminal complaint as 28-year-old noel e velentzas and 40-year-old asia siddiqui. they are homegrown terrorists planning to detonate a bomb in t the united states. in the 29 page complaint, the u.s. attorney details how the women allegedly express their support for, quote, violent jihad. prosecutors say the women researched and acquired materials needed to make various types of bombs including
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fertilizer, a pressure-cooker device and multiple propane tank tanks which siddiqui kept in her apartment build ging. her attorney spoke outside of the courthouse. >> my client enters a plea of not guilty, even with an indictment and she and i will address everything in the courtroom where it belongs. >> reporter: authorities say the suspects were not after civilians, but instead, the police and military. even taking inspiration from the funeral of slain police officer rafael ramos believing it would be an easy target. considered osama bin laden her mentor and praised 9/11 attacks on the world trade center and obsessed with pressure cookers, since the marathon attack according to an undercover officer. prosecutors say that siddiqui's inspiration was just as strong and that she had contact with t
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the al qaeda arabian peninsula group and had written poems to a jihadi magazine. she had written, "no excuse to sit back and wait for the skies, rain martyrdom and taste the truth through fists and slit throats." and the pair on investigators since may 13 and according to law enforcement official close to the case, the women came to the attention of investigators through another terrorism investigation. people in velentzas' neighborhood say she's married with a young daughter, and sometimes argued with her husband, but there was nothing to indicate she had jihadist leanings. >> she's a very friendly woman and never expect that at all. very lovely people. i saw the fbi this morning but didn't know what that is regards to. but that is so crazy. >> jason is outside of the
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courtroom but they were talking and giving their lives to alla, was martyrdom their end goal? >> reporter: not necessarily. one complaint in june of 2014, valencas had a conversation where they talked about possibly being killed by police. said we will be martyrs automatically but in the complaint, clear the two suspects were trying to build a bomb they could detonate from afar and not be suicide bombers. so i do not believe that martyrdom was their ultimate goal. their ultimate goal was to create history. wolf? >> what a story, jason carroll, thank you very much. up next, another incredible story. a sailor missing for 66 days found at sea and rescued. grateful father joins us when "360" continues.
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breaking news. a sailor reported missing by family 66 days ago found at sea. coast guard saying louis jordan on disabled sailboat east of cape hatteras, north carolina, and took him on board. a coast guard medevaced to the hospital in virginia where he is tonight. the coast guard said jordan said he lived off raw fish and rain water for more than two months. after his rescue this afternoon, got a chance to talk to his father on the phone. listen to this. >> hey. louis.
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i'm so glad you're alive. we prayed and prayed and we hoped that you were still alive. so that's all that matters. that's the only thing that matters. your mother's, huh, what? >> i was afraid you guys were crying, sad, that i was dead. i wasn't dead. i wanted you guys -- >> we were. i thought i lost you. >> i spoke with the grateful dad. frank jordan just a few moments ago. mr. jordan, this is an incredible news. i can't imagine what you're going through. tell us about what you know from everything that's unfolded in the past few hours and how your son is doing. >> well we got the coast guard call from the miami station, and we were told that a ship had picked up louis and then that they were going to take him, take him to norfolk to hospital and he was okay and walking
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around and clear headed and that he'd been adrift at sea for, and of course we knew that he had been out there for a long time, and i did not know if he had been adrift for a long time, because he had a boat, but it went down. >> he survived. we heard a bit of what you said to your son, louis, earlier today by the coast guard. what more did he tell you, what was the conversation like? >> well, it sounded like louis. to me, that was kind of surprising. i don't know why i expected him to sound like anything else, but just the same old louis and he says that he has fasted before, so it wasn't the first time he went without food. which i thought that was interesting. >> 66 days at sea, about 200 miles off the coast of north carolina. had you held on to hope he would be found because it's our understanding the coast guard effectively had stopped searching back in february, is that correct?
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>> yeah. and, but i knew he had a good seaworthy boat. 35 foot sailboat. and well designed. i felt the boat was going to keep him alive, so i had all sorts of worries because he's not an experienced sailor, but he basically wanted to go out and catch some fish. that's why he left the marina. >> what more do you know about when he left? the weather, anything that could have contributed to his disappearance? >> i don't really know. i can't answer that question. i know i called him at one point a few days after he left land and i spoke with him, that was the last time i ever talked to him and he was a few miles offshore. and as far as how he got off track, i don't know. i can't answer that. i'm going to have to get the details from him. >> certainly will.
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also mentioned your son is not necessarily a very experienced sailor, but obviously, he would have to be extremely resourceful or strong to survive for this long, right? >> oh, yes. very strong. he's got very strong constitution and not only physically, but spiritually. and he told me on the phone that he was praying the whole time, so i believe that sustained him a great deal. >> louis, your son, the coast guard, the doctors say he's okay. is that right? >> yes. and he sounded fine when i talked to him. he said he had a hurt shoulder. >> if that's it, he's in great shape. >> yeah. yeah. >> mr. jordan, thank you so much for your time. we wish you and your family only the best. >> thank you, wolf. up next, fixing that hotly debated religious freedom law in indiana.
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it's your all-access binge-watching pass to tv's hottest shows free with xfinity on demand. xfinity watchathon week. april 6th through 12th. perfect for people who really love tv. a lot more happening tonight. amara walker has a "360" bulletin. amara? >> lawmakers in indiana and arkansas today approved changes to their religious freedom laws that sparked widespread criticism and boycott. the amendments aim to address concerns that the law discriminate against gay people. the governors of both states have signed revised legislation. and robert menendez pleaded not guilty in federal court after being charged for accepting lavish gifts in
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exchange for political favors. and the host of the "hour of power" has died. he was 88. that does it for eli officials say it threatens that country's security. kenya mourns the loss of nearly 150 students killed in a heinous attack on a university campus. and the dramatic rescue of a sailor who spent an incredible 66 days alone at sea. we welcome our viewers here in the united states around around the world. i'm george howell. >> and i'm natalie allen. you're watching cnn newsroom. >> you could say it's been a long time
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