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time. they are worse than you could have imagined. let's go outfront. good evening. i'm erin burnett. tonight, bunker busting bombs. cnn is learning tonight that despite the breakthrough with iran the pentagon is plowing ahead with its most lethal option. one of the most powerful bombs in the world. the military testing a bomb that can destroy targets deep underground like iran's most secret nuclear facility. the united states is more capable of destroying the nuclear complex than it was a year ago. it sounds good but is this just a lot of tough talk. as the president of the united states has tried to pull a major sales job, the president working the phones today making a very hard sell on the iran nuclear deal. he called all them from air force one. he's promising to sit down with
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the top four congressional leaders, members of congress including influential democrats are saying no. today as benjamin netanyahu came out swinging charging that deal guarantees iran a bomb. >> such a deal does not block iran's path to the bomb. such a deal paves iran's path to the bomb. >> jim sciutto is outfront. the president is trying to sell the deal. he's trying hard. this isn't a guy that likes get on the phone and makes the sale calls. even democrats say they want a say. they want to vote on this. they're not going to give him the right to do it. does he have a chance? >> reporter: they are drafting bipartisan legislation to get a say and a review of this. here's the thing. in the current form of that legislation, it would add new sanctions if iran does not come
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comply. the president said any new sanctions he will veto that. he will grant some buy in where they review the deal and perhaps prescribe what would happen if iran breaks the deal going forward but there's a lot of daylight between those positions now. that will be a tough sale going forward and tough to get republicans and democrats for something that the president can exempt. >> it's got to be pretty disturbing this is bipartisan. you have democrats saying whether we like it or not, we want a say. we'll not let you go ahead with this on your own. in iran there's all this focus on the celebration in the streets where there are some people who view this as the nuclear program is near and dear in the hearts of so many iranians. putting aside a weapons aspect. they get to be a nuclear power and see it as sanctions will go away. >> reporter: absolutely. i'm sure you felt the same thing when you've been there.
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this is about the nuclear program that's a matter of pride but it's about becoming a normal country again. having rights and access they have been denied through these sanctions. that's what they are celebrating, a chance not to be an international piraha state if the deal comes through. an enormous economic wind fall for the hard line government. we're talking tens of billions of dollars in oil revenue, et cetera. this has an enormous wind fall and the wind ends of an enormous coalition that's been squeezinge ing iran because of its nuclear program. >> those stores will have more shoppers. it's all there. thanks so much to you. perhaps the biggest critic of
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this deal is israel. a country that could have the most to lose if iran gets a nuclear weapon. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says the deal is a disaster and threatens his nation. this deal is netanyahu's worst nightmare. >> reporter: nothing subtle about the language he has been using over the last few days and weeks especially in the last 24 hours. his harshest language to date. he said it would increase a horrific war, a terrible war. these are the strongest words he's used. perhaps we can expect the criticism to ramp up. he's also added a very interesting demand. he says if this continues, if the negotiations push forward as they seem to be doing, he says he wants or he demands the final deal includes iranian recognition of the state of israel. the right of israel to exist. that's new and interesting and could be difficult to get if
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considered in these negotiations. netanyahu has been pushing back from the very beginning. he's realized he can't get obama to stop the negotiations or end the negotiations. he's trying to push back where he can. that's where we see him using his congressional allies. jim mentioned the republicans there. house speaker boehner was here. mitch mcconnell was here. he knows where his allies are and knows where to push. he's an experienced politician. it could be difficult to have some of his demands met because he wants to limit and disassemble iran's infrastructure he knows he can make this difficult with the help of congressional republicans as president obama tries to push this deal forward. he said the military option is still very much on the table. >> thank you very much. energy secretary has is a nuclear physicist. he was at the table throughout the negotiations. thanks so much for being with us.
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the bottom line question is this why are you satisfied or maybe i could even use the word happy with this deal? >> again, we had an objectsive. the objective was to block all four pathways to a bomb for iran if they chose to go that path. they claimed they're not going that path but we want verification. through a combination of limiting their technology deployment limiting their access to uranium stockpiles, limiting their access to plutonium and most importantly vastly increasing our access and transparency to their nuclear activities we feel confident we will immediately upon the agreement being installed, we will jump from a two to three month so-called broke eded break out time to a bomb, if they chose to go that way, for over a year to at
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least ten years. >> that group has been critical of iran and refusal to cooperate even when airan signed the agreement. in 2005 the group failed to provide sufficient information. iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear device. 2012 they passed a resolution because iran wasn't providing cooperation. in recent days they couldn't say what iran's nuclear weapon plans were. that's a pretty damming record. how do you know they have changed? >> the issues that you raise involve what are call possible military dimensions and you're
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correct. there are a lot of unanswered questions. as part of this agreement, part of this negotiation, i should say leading to an agreement, the iae has defined questions that must be resolved if the sanctions release is to follow. >> a lot of critics of this deal have pointed out, of course is there was a similar deal to this in the past that ended up with the country getting a nuclear bomb. june 26th 2008 president bush lifted sanctions on north korea. as part of the deal they got to keep a nuclear program and nuclear research like iran does now. here is what president bush said about that deal. >> today's a positive day. it's a positive step forward. there's more work to be done and we have to process to get it done in a verifiable way. >> it sounds a lot like president obama who is saying if iran cheats we'll know about it. this is about verification and
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not about trust. after that deal north korea succeeded in getting a nuclear weapon even though it signed on the dotted line. how can you assure the world that iran will not be like north korea? >> the level of access and transparency that we have in this agreement is quite exceptional. that's how we have the confidence that we will in fact know what we need to know when he need know it. >> secretary, cnn ists are now siding with republicans on the sanctions issue. they're saying they will not vote to end sanctions against iran unless congress gets to review this deal. that is something the president adamantly has fought against. those 12 votes are crucial. it's only one vote shy of a veto majority. that would derail the entire deal. what do you say to congress? >> the issue as i've been doing today reaching out to congress
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often member by member. making sure they understand what it is that we have accomplished in the negotiation to date recognizing the steps that thatwe need to carry out to reach a full agreement. have them judgment. we should think of this approach as the president has emphasized. it's not a deal of some specific number of years. it's long term with many milestones to see if iran can earn the international trust and return over a couple of decades to the family of nations that we trust to have only peaceful intentions. >> thank you very much secretary. >> thank you. next, the massacre of nearly 150 students at the hands of terrorists. the death toll expected to rise. we're live with the first images from inside that school and that massacre. how did a man survive 66 days lost at sea?
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five suspects have been arrested in the massacre on a college campus in kenya. the death toll could be about to surge. the number is 147 dead. the number is about to jump. students werered. they targeted christians and let muslim students go. what did you see? >> reporter: erin what we saw was a steady stream bodies being taken out of that university put in trucks and taken to a tarmac where they are being air lifted to the capital of kenya. this capital is part of kenya. the whole country is reeling
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from this devastating attack when four gunmen went through and picked through those dormitories and executed those that they came across. they say they were speaking swaheli. they spent a lot of time here and brought up here. they specifically killed executing people in the back of the head and separating the muslims from the christians. five people been arrested now. it appears they are making some progress in this investigation. a long way off from sealing the boarders borders. they are pourous borders and they are being attacked by the terrorist network in recent years. this attack with near 150 dead and perhaps more is certainly the worst here in kenya in more than a decade. >> david, you talk about the arrests. the breaking news at this hour five have been arrested.
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do you have any sense of how many were involved? is that about the total or are we talking about a fraction of the people committing this atrocity atrocity? >> reporter: what we have known from previous attacks in kenya, doesn't take my people to commit a carnage like this. they don't care if they live or die. one witness telling us they said to them that we only have two objectives here to kill and be killed. they were pulling people out of their hiding place, assembling them and giving them a religious sermon. they went through one woman said and some were really executed one by one and they moved on to the women as well. they asked people to recite the koran. if they were able to they were let free. if they didn't, they were shot. one woman managed to escape from under a pile of dead bodies more than 36 hours after this attack happened. they are reeling here from this attack. still not knowing how many
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people might have die and where their loved ones are but the hunt goes on right now for anybody who could have been involved. erin. >> thank you very much. david, talking about how they separated men from women, massacring the men first and then the women, not sparing them either but one of the tests being could you recite the koran. on this good friday the murdering of christians around the world. they have been beheaded burned and shot. >> reporter: dramatic pictures from inside the university show where the gunmen raged. piles of clothing bullet holes testaments to moment of terror. >> we pray for those who are hurting us and in hospitals. >> reporter: outside, the faithful are gathering to pray as families mourn. the response from christians during this holy week is pointed because witnesses say the gunmen came specifically for them.
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peter is with the atlanta council and international affairs think tank. >> the first targets at the university college was a lecture hall where christians met in the morning for voluntary prayer. they also went through the rooms and people to separate themselves. this has been a pattern in recent attacks. >> reporter: witnesses say the same thing happened during the mall attack in nairobi in 2013. some security analysts say other extremists are clearly going after christians. isis has been tied to massacres of christians. how many is unclear but dozens this year alone. that makes places like kenya prime targets. this nation is 85% christian and muslims here have long complained it being treated unfairly. that feeds the terrorist narrative. such brutal attacks are mainly about protecting a beleaguered
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minority. >> it saves them from the odor of killed muslims which got them a lot of criticism. >> reporter: even the pope is hearing the rising concern this easter weekend. christians are not tonl victims of homicide violence in the world but we cannot ignore in many countries that are the most frequently targeted victims. >> reporter: all of this is ramping up tension in places where christians and muslims have lived alongside each other for many years and promising leaders to call for calm. >> thank you. joining me now former fbi agent. you heard david talk about how they went to this college campus. it's something they did. it's like animals. they separated the men from the women. murdered one group and then the other. shooting christians in the back of the head face down reports
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of beheadings. the test was if you can recite the koran. this feels like a new level of brutality. >> erin unfortunately, it's not for al shabab and not islamic extremists as a whole. in the mall in the west gate male mall attack they did the same thing. they said who is the mother of the prophet and if the person couldn't answer the question they were shot. then asking if you were a muslim if they were hesitated, they were shot. their brutality is unparalleled. isis is brutal. other groups have been notorious for their brutality. unlike in nairobi or kenya which has 85% christian population in
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somalia it's muslim population. >> you're seeing this in iraq and acrass the middle east where christians have been forced to flee. they're burning them alive. the egyptians who were one after the other beheaded on the beach on film. the reason was because they were christian. this is a new level of visibility and religious targeting, isn't it? >> yeah. i think it is. here we are commemorating 2,000 plus years ago the persecution of jesus christ on good friday and we're seeing these christians are being attacked because of their faith in him. i'm a catholic. i've been to kenya many many times. the easterly neighborhood in nairobi is a huge ghetto that's
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somali immigrants. they may have grown up. this is their home country they may have been attacking. this persecution is being spread throughout the world. we've seen it not just in somali and iraq but look in pakistan nigeria, how many christians have been kill and churches burned. it's widespread. it looks as if not much is being done to stop this. >> tim, thank you very much. very sobering and a weekend to think about it as so many around the world are prepared to celebrate the holy holiday of easter. tune in tonight at 9:00 p.m. for the special terror at the mall. a look inside the siege of the west gate mall. next, lost at sea for months and all but given up for dead. one man's amazing story of survival. my guest is the officer who rescued him. ferguson officials release the original racist e-mails. we'll show you what they said because we think it's important.
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new details tonight about a rescue at sea. fisherman louis jordan had been missing for 66 days and they thought he was dead. then he was spotted 200 miles off the coast of north carolina on his battered sailboat. i'm going to speak to the man who rescued jordan. you see him there. i want to begin with his story. martin savidge is outfront. >> reporter: frank jordan hugs the son he thought was dead and by all rights he should be. the unemployed truck driver lived aboard his 35-foot sailboat near myrtle baempeach south carolina. last january he headed out to sea to go fishing. bad timing. remember those blizzards that blasted the east coast they caused huge waves sending jordan and his boat my shoulder.
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>> reporter: a rollover in a storm can be a sailor's worst nightmare. for jordan it was just beginning. with his mast and rudder broken he said he was on his own. weather records show he may have battled 19 more storms andwet ere fronts off the carolina coast. he collected rain to drink and grabbed fish with his hands. >> put the hand slowly next to him and scoop him up real quick. >> reporter: then thursday after 66 days, he was rescued by a container ship 200 miles from the nearest land. a coast guard helicopter raced to the scene. >> passenger in the cabin.
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>> reporter: when jordan walked from the helicopter into the hospital he looked good, incredibly good. >> you would expect severe sunburn, blisters a bunch of medical issues that could be wrong with him. >> reporter: rescue swimmer was the first to care for jordan on the flight back to land. for him to be in his current state was pretty amazing. coast guard officials say they have found no reason to doubt jordan's story noting his father contacted them january 29th to report his son and boat missing. >> here it is. >> reporter: petty officer m mccullum got another view of jordan jordan's face when they reached shore. >> he had the biggest smile and you could tell he's been through something serious. >> reporter: it was late this afternoon that cnn was able to reach out again to the captain of the container ship that made the original rescue of jordan.
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we wanted to find out did his boat look so bad like it had been out there for 66 days. they thought it was a wreck and were stunned when they saw man inside waving for their help. he definitely is a believer in this story. erin. >> thank amazing. thank you so much. jordan was brought to land. the rescuer you see bringing him up there on the rope was on his first day on the job. he joins me now. derick i really appreciate you taking the time. what an incredible first day. there's no way you could have imagined this could happen. we see you lifting louis with that rope to safety. what did he look like? what did he say to you? >> when he got on board, first
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off my official action was to try to get him out the door and get him in the helicopter. our rescue swimmers are emt and he's the one that will make the initial assessment. just looking at him, getting him in the basket he was real wide eyed. didn't look like he was sure where he was. >> he seemed disoriented in terms of his condition. what did he look like? some people say could this story be true? you heard there kyle one of your fellow coast guard officers talking about the rescue saying he almost looked too good to have been at sea for 66 days. what did he look like to you? >> he looked it's hard to say. when we're on our flight out i expected him to look worse than he was. i will say that. i expected to see somebody who
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was a lot skinnier. more sunburns and things like that. he looked tired. he was definitely lyly scruffy. his eyes were drawn, bags under his eyes. he looked beat and relieved to be in that helicopter on his way home. >> i know this was your first day. your very first day on the job with the u.s. coast guard. what was going through your head when this happened to you? >> it's not in the coast guard. it was my first operational hoist as a flight mechanic. i was definitely nervous. definitely nervous. >> i'm sure you were. i know we have a bit of delay. i want to ask did he say anything to you. i know you're talking about his skin and how he looked and the bags under his eyes. did you get to talk to him at all?
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>> yes, ma'am. most rescue swimmer got into the cabin, he did his assessment on him. started talking to him and trying to get information out of him. he seemed to be disoriented but he kept saying thank you. how thankful he was. he referred to his faith in god and in the bible. he said that was a big reason that he knows he was able to make it through. i just continued to say thank you. he did say he was hungry. >> i believe he was reading the bible when he got on the helicopter. he wanted to read the bible? >> yes, ma'am. it wasn't immediately after he got on but once we got into flight and started moving he did open up his book bag and it was a water logged book but it was the bible. >> thank you so much. i really appreciate your taking
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the time. some of those injuries might not have been consistent with being at sea but sounds like he believes in the story. racist ferguson e-mails, some targeting the president and mrs. obama. they are unbelievable. north korea's kim jung-un reviving a pleasure squad of young women to entertain him. we'll tell you all about it. noise financial noise financial noise aww, this audit will take days. what a headache! actually...i... don't have a headache anymore! excedrin really does work fast. quiet! mom has a headache! had a headache!
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racist e-mails that cost three ferguson employees their jobs. for the first time tonight we're seeing the uncensored e-mails with images from the ferguson police department. they were part of the justice department investigation and include photos with some unbelievable jokes about the president and first lady. the jokes are offensive and disturbing. we believe it's important to discuss them so that you can see for yourself how ugly and frankly, how accepted the racism was amongst some in ferguson
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police department. it raises troubling questions. they made fun of president obama in a highly offensive way. one of the e-mails with the image -- well i'll give you a chance to explain. >> someone who has traveled to ferguson more than a few times people often thought the police department was quite racist. i can show you the photos for first time. you can see the picture with ronald reagan and a monkey. it says rare photo of ronald reagan baby sitting barack obama in early 1962. obviously, this is supposed to depict president obama being fed by ronald reagan. this is one of the e-mails sent back and forth. they believe the clerk of court and two high level officials inside the police department were sharing the photos. something that's disturbing and shocking for people to see that was being traded on the e-mail system inside the county government. >> being traded. there were so many of these.
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it wasn't uncommon. that's one of the most shocking things. that image incredibly disturbing. when you hear it it's one think. when you see it, it becomes worse. we're showing just a fraction of these e-mails. there was another one with an image for first lady. >> i think it's important to point that out. we're only showing some of the images. you have the e-mail with ronald reagan and the other one taking aim at the first lady. showing this photo that we blurred out the chest. it shows women saying this was a high school reunion that would have the first lady involved. these e-mails being traded back and forth and feeling open enough to have the culture inside the department that deals with a lot of african-americans. just the idea they would be traded openly. there's another one that
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compared dogs to welfare recipients and talks about the fact one person is saying i have two dogs who need to be on welfare welfare, unemployed lazy and can't speak english. they received welfare for their two dogs. you can see what's been traded back and forth. it will spark more conversation now that this has been seen. >> thank you very much. joining me now is cnn commentator. we had heard about some of these e-mails. it's one thing to hear them and that was disturbing but to see these images and these photos is chilling. >> yes, it is. i kind of smirk a bit to myself. it's not shocking to those of us that have been in ferguson and talked with people in ferguson.
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you know you may have raised your eyebrow when you saw the photos but they're not shocking. this is information we knew about ferguson. this is information that many african-americans and minorityies know what happens inside police departments around the nation. >> it's something that doesn't surprise you. for a lot of people when they heard this story, they said these e-mails must have been pretty bad. when you see that image, for me it was the one of ronald reagan and you realize how cavalierly this was being exchanged and there was no sense it was disgusting and improper and if there was, it was no care at all. there was an assumption that they would see it and think it was funny and appropriate. >> in florida just two years ago as we're dealing with trayvon
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martin and george zimmerman there was a police department that had to fire police officers were dressed as kkk while wearing their police uniform. i'm not saying every police department is filled with racists, but this is not unique. we have seen this time and time again in the south in terms of some police officer having this kind of real openness about their racism. >> i guess the bottom line of what you're seeing is this is much more pervasive. i understand you're not saying the sky is falling but this is much more pervasive. pervasive in what way? beyond police departments, i imagine your answer might be yes. >> of course. definitely yes. i, as much as anyone want to mover past racism, but you don't mover past it by pretending it doesn't exist. we cover the trayvon martin conversation and try to pretend everything was okay when we know
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better. the jennings police department was disbanded because of raceismracism. why are we shocked that there's racism in ferguson when we know they absorb racist police officers from jennings. the sky is not falling but the only way we'll get past this problem is acknowledging it's there. >> thank you very much. we chose to just show you a few of them that we thought made the point about how cavalierly and common this was in the ferguson police department and our belief those images brought this home in the way the words we heard over the past few weeks could not do. next kim jung-un bringing back an old tradition. it's called the pleasure squad. the prettiest young women are available to him upon request. we have a special report on what this is.
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force from kym xiongim jong-un. north korea successfully fired short range missiles for the second consecutive day. high level talks in seoul on how to counter the north korea threat. kim jong-un reinstating his father's quote unquote pleasure squads. this is what it sounds like. legions of young hot women forced to do the supreme ruler's bidding. it is a kim regime tradition. it was parodied in the movie "the interview" but now a cruel realty in the hermit kingdom. outfront. >> reporter: with tensions already high as the u.s. and south korea conduct military drills more rattling towards the west. north korea test firing four short range missiles traveling 84 miles before plunging into the sea. a pentagon official saying
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quote, we urge north korea to refrain from provocative actions that aggravate tensions and instead focus on fulfilling its international obligations and commitments. meanwhile, the north korean leader is setting his sights on personal indulgence. reinstating pleasure squads. a pro north korea newspaper said a tradition enjoyed by his father and grandfather, employing a group of young female kpanian handpicked based on good looks and measurements to be at their disposal right by their side for personal entertainment whether by synchronized swimming or a shower of affection. >> kim jong-il died in december of 2011. there is a mandatory period of mourning so it is possible that the son refrained from these practices in observance of those compulsory three years of
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mourning. now he's out of that period he may be in the process of rehesus resuscitateing these brigades. >> kim will take first country outside with leader with russian president vladimir putin in russia. his pleasure squad will not travel with him. erin? >> incredible story. thank you. outfront next this suv just drove itself from san francisco to new york. the driverless car coming to a showroom near you a lot sooner than you ever would have thought. how can you just stand there? what do you mean? your grass man, it's famished. with just two springtime feedings with scotts turf builder lawn food helps strengthen and protects your lawn from future problems. thanks scott. feed your lawn. feed it! look! this is the new asian inspired broth bowl from panera bread. that noise! panera broth bowls should be slurped with gusto!
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to upgrade your phone, douglass. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. in tonight's idea our series on innovative thinkers and new big ideas, the driverless car. racing to fast track it but one company's idea of coast to coast driverless road trip is miles ahead of the competition right now. >> we're all set for auto control. >> it's a new idea rooted in a decades old. >> roger, move to electronic control strip in center lane. >> reporter: now that vision is
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fast becoming reality. the big idea for dell five an auto electronics company, creating the first driverless car to go across the united states nchlt states. in this case an audi suv complete with burgers and fries on a road trip -- >> it's the ultimate test and looking forward to the test itself. i'm also very much looking to the daytime. >> reporter: san francisco to new york. 3500 miles. 99% of the drive, driverless. technically, there is someone sitting in the seat because state laws demand that. he drives the car to the highway onramp. but then 20 cameras along with radar and a lot of computing power take over. >> today, we're starting off on the longest leg of the trip. passing dallas about 650 miles. >> we found our system was a little scared of semitractor trailers so it kind of edged a little far to the left. >> safety is the first question on everyone's mind.
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>> it has to be perfect. a little unusual feeling but quickly, five minutes, you get comfortable. >> reporter: on a recent trip i got a glimpse of this new reality. in mastar city where they use the technology to transform their system. >> this is personal transit. how you get around the city. it's driverless electric and solar powered. it comes when you want it and takes you where you want to go. >> it's driverless. >> yes. >> auto industry experts say this could grow to a $42 billion business in the next ten years. other companies working on driverless cars too including google ford and general motors. it's amazing but what if you're one of the people who love to drive? >> i think you'll have people to drive and i think that will always be an option. >> i'm admit, i'm one of those people. i just love to drive, but still, it's a neat technology. outfront is now global. global edition on cnn
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international saturday and sunday and this week i'm going to speak to the chief of the international atomic energy agency the iaea about the iran deal. thank you so much for joining us. be sure to set your dvr to record this show anytime. "ac360" with jim sciutto starts now. jim sciutto sitting in front for anderson. we begin tonight with breaking news that could make travel hard and life even tougher for millions of people this holiday weekend. deadly weather in a big chunk of the south on top of heavy rainfall and in places truly epic flooding. we'll have a report on the damage in a moment but first, i want to go to karen mcguinness in the cnn weather center with the watches and warnings you need to know about. karen, severe weather in a lot of states. millions of people affected. what's the very latest? >> we are watching this very powerful storm system very evident that it is springtime
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