but still, it's a neat technology. outfront is now global. global edition on cnn international saturday and sunday and this week i'm going to speak to the chief of the international atomic energy agency the iaea about the iran deal. thank you so much for joining us. be sure to set your dvr to record this show anytime. "ac360" with jim sciutto starts now. jim sciutto sitting in front for anderson. we begin tonight with breaking news that could make travel hard and life even tougher for millions of people this holiday weekend. deadly weather in a big chunk of the south on top of heavy rainfall and in places truly epic flooding. we'll have a report on the damage in a moment but first, i want to go to karen mcguinness in the cnn weather center with the watches and warnings you need to know about. karen, severe weather in a lot of states. millions of people affected. what's the very latest? >> we are watching this very powerful storm system very evident that it is springtime as it marches towards the east.

we saw those thunderstorms really fire up in the last couple of hours, especially for kentucky and tennessee. we know lots of people are traveling and about almost 7 million people are at enhanced risk for severe weather. could see the possibility of isolated tornadoes at worst. might expect hail and also high winds. some reports of wind gusts a high of 90 miles per hour. right now, where you see this red box area that's where we have the tornado watch. and included in that area about 3 million people stemming all the way from charleston west virginia towards knoxville, tennessee. but also some big thunderstorms in mississippi and alabama expected to move into north georgia. we also were seeing some pretty heavy downpours in sections of eastern tennessee and we'll show you some of those pictures out of louisville kentucky. very dramatic but as we go into this easter weekend, jim, it has been exceptional and this big storm system fires up huge

storms all the way across the appalachian mountain region to the ohio river valley down to the tennessee river valley as well. >> a big part of the country, in the middle of the country, some 30 million people are seeing in a slight risk area. tell me about louisville because the pictures out of there showing they're hit particularly hard by this flooding. >> they were. and senseince the beginning of march, a month ago, they have seen in excess of 15 inches of rainfall just in one day. they saw a record amount of rainfall just under 6 inches of rain. high water rescues, about 100 plus people rescued from their cars from a bus, from their apartment. two people are still reportedly missing in those flood waters. jim? >> karen mcguinness, thank you very much. more now from the city in question. in addition to the flooding there in louisville a massive fire. this video shows both from one man's backyard at least 200 firefighters battled flames at

general electric's appliance park. look at that black smoke billowing up. one building partially collapsed. it's a total loss. amazingly though from the pictures no one was hurt and firefighters had hands full with water rescues. more from alexandra field. >> reporter: torrential rain hit the ohio valley overnight triggering flash floods across kentucky and southern indiana. in louisville alone, more than 175 water rescues according to mayor greg fischer. >> i woke up and somebody was knocking on my door and said it's flooding. >> reporter: fast-rising flood waters sent rescue workers in motion from the middle of the night, a mandatory evacuation order in a louisville neighborhood. >> i'm in an apartment. >> it's starting to build up with water now. i don't know. they just started bringing

people out but there's only one boat. so we all got to take turns and stuff. >> reporter: firefighters worked through the night hauling residents to safety as the water swept through the city nearly submerging vehicles and making roads impossible. >> the water was at waist level about an hour ago. >> reporter: by morning, many residents still dealing with several feet of standing water and submerged cars and it's not over. the national weather service issued warnings for even more flooding. alexandra field, cnn. overseas investigators today revealed the first information from flight 9525's newly discovered flight data recorder. they say it erases any doubt if there was any doubt that first officer andreas lubitz clearly intended to crash that plane into the alps. pamela brown has been covering this from the beginning and joins us tonight from dusseldorf with the latest. pamela it looks like investigators had alarming information from the data recorder. what was it?

>> reporter: absolutely. more incriminating evidence against co-pilot andreas lubitz apparently accelerated the speed of the plane as he drove it into the french alps. the flight data recorder said he used the auto pilot to engage down to 100 feet as he sped up the plane into that mountain. officials say this new information from that flight data recorder really only backs up what they've been saying this was a deliberate act, voluntary, and premeditated jim. >> incredible. accelerating that plane as the pilot was banging on that reinforced door trying to get in. have authorities got any more details about a possible motive for this? we all heard about in previous bouts of depression et cetera. >> reporter: it appears, they're putting all the pieces of the puzzle together but he was distraught his health issues his medical issues would cause him to lose his pilot license. he had a relapse in late 2014 apparently. he was going from doctor to

doctor trying to find a solution. we know he wanted to be a pilot his whole life really. it was a dream of him and he was afraid. we know investigators found personal memos in his apartment, according to a source i've been speaking with who knows firsthand what's going on with the investigation. those memos have, you know words on them like stress pilot license, apparently he told some of his doctors he was afraid to lose his license but i will say, jim, no one is ready to reach a conclusion yet until they look at what else this flight data recorder has on it. >> all this with 149 other passengers and crew on that plane. pamela brown, thank you very much from germany. up next, obviously most pilots don't have that co-pilot problems but many now have just as little cockpit experience as he had. the question is will safety suffer as a result? a global pilot shortage means we're all about to find out. we're going to get an airline captain's take on it. and later, nuclear fallout from the deal with iran.

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welcome back. i'm jim sciutto in washington. the crash of germanwings flight

9525 appears to be first and foremost about a person who clearly had a lot of problems. what he did not have was very much airline flight deck experience though. just 600 hours. how that factored in we don't fully know. it does throw a spotlight, however, on some larger questions of how to get safe and professionally solid aviators into the cockpit, especially in the face of today's global pilot shortage. lubitz was trained by lufthansa in a program that takes either inexperienced pilots or even non-pilots and turns them into airline first officers. the very first job in that right seat. the co-pilot seat of an airline cockpit often with more than 150 people in the back. in this country, it is different. most airline pilots start in the military and do variety of pilot jobs winding up with thousands of hours before they get to where this co-pilot got. it could be changing. >> probably the best part of my job is waking up very early,

coming to work for a 6 a.m. flight block and taking off on that runway right there. >> reporter: at 21, gabrielle hooup hooupstra is teaching other prospective pilots how to fly. what do you love about flying? >> i love that flying bringing out the best of my character. >> reporter: he graduated from aeronautical university and working as an instructor pilot. had 250 flight hours at graduation and has already earned 600 more. but she still is not able to fly for a commercial airline. >> at first, it's a lot of money that you have to pay. it's a lot of time you have to put forward, a lot of work on the front end, but as a career choice it's a great path to choose. >> >> reporter: it's a path fewer are choosing. in 2007 the faa issued close to 67,000 student certificates. over the next six years, that

number steadily dropped, reaching around 49,000 in 2013. >> generally, the pool is smaller, for sure. >> reporter: boeing has forecasted the need for 88,000 new commercial pilots over the next 20 years in north america. regional carriers in the u.s. are already sounding the alarm. being forced to reduce service in some smaller communities because they say they just don't have enough qualified pilots to fly their planes. >> it's not an industry that you can just say, hey, i want to be a pilot and do a little bit of training and you end up being a pilot. you have to work a significant amount of time. build a significant amount of flight hours in order to qualify. i mean it costs a significant amount of money. >> reporter: there are several ways pilots can get the training they need to get to the cockpit. some go to flight schools and others choose to go to places like embry riddle tuition about $45,000 a year. on average, students graduate with some 250 hours in flight

time. that used to be enough to go straight from embry riddle to a commercial airline but after flight 3407 crashed in 2009 that transition became much harder. pilot error played a major role in that crash in buffalo and many of the families of the 49 people on board have pushed for some of the changes we're seeing today. including raising the minimum requirement of flight hours to 1500. but there are fears some of these requirements may be weakened in order to meet the demand for pilots. >> there's tremendous pressure on the faa to relax some of the rules and requirements so they can get more people in the pipeline but then that will reduce safety. i think those were hard fought safety rules. they were, you know people paid for them with their lives and they should not go back on it. >> reporter: cnn aviation analyst mary schiavo said instead the industry should focus on improving pilot pay. >> the starting salary for teachers in the united states of america is about $35,000. whereas the starting salary for

pilots is $22,000 or $24,000. so if we accept the notion that teachers are underpaid, then pilots are way underpaid. >> reporter: especially when you consider the average pilot spends tens of thousands of dollars in training before they start making any money. >> i think that the industry will have to find a way to make the the transition from starting to be a professional pilot to being that experienced pilot a little bit easier. you know maybe increasing pay. having some more incentives to continue with the program. otherwise, people are going to lose motivation. >> reporter: alina machado, daytona beach, florida. >> pioneering doing it differently by training pilots from scratch and filling flight roster with intensely educated

but inexperienced pilots which may or may not factor into this tragedy but has pluses and minuses worth talking about tonight. with us tonight, les abend and also pilot and cnn aviation analyst, miles o'brien. miles, les, great to have you both with us. miles, i know this is something you feel very strongly about as a pilot yourself. minimum experience low pay. again, we're talking about the united states here. how big a safety issue is this? >> well we have a lot of anecdotal proof that it is a true safety issue going back the big example being the buffalo crash. hogan 3407 crash that led to the change by the way because of the courageous families that lost loved ones advocated for higher standards in the cockpit. the thing about aviation is you could go to a really smart training academy, a cadet program run by lufthansa. i'm sure it's great education but i'm sure les will agree on

this. there is no shortcut to experience in aviation. a 630 hour pilot frankly would not be allowed to fly my single engine aircraft under the insurance rules. so why is that person sitting in the right seat of an airbus a320 a large complex aircraft with 150 passengers behind him? that just doesn't make sense. >> les, let me pipe in there. you've flown a 777, does that make sense to you. >> no i know what miles is saying and gabrielle you featured in that clip is a great example of someone very motivated. however, she's well aware of the issues that face her. the incentive really out there is compensation and it's not there. you're going to spend $200,000 almost at embry riddle by the time four years is over to get out and make food stamp wages, mcdonald's manager makes more than that. and the problem is we're dealing with a gap. she graduated, she's very

typical. 250 hours of a great university and then she's got to go to the 1500 hours. however, goes to faa accredited school, 1,000 hours but still a lot of time between 250 and 1,000 hours. what is she doing? she's flight instructing. is that the motivation or the objective that we want after this horrible keoghan crash of experience? do we want a flight instructor because they can't sit right seat in say a regional airline? i don't think this was the intent of the aviation safety act. >> well, miles, because after this crash of germanwings, lufthansa's discount airliner there was some commentary this is the result of discount airline travel. i read some of these pieces and you know this idea that you're cutting costs, people tickets, you get inexperienced, less safe pilots when in fact i think that the pilot salary is

actually very small portion of the overall budget. but is that a pressure here miles? cut rate airlines does that reduce the quality of pilots as a result? >> well you have to look at it from the perspective of an airline executive. what can you cut? fuel prices are pretty difficult to deal with. the cost of an aircraft. the the the airplane itself. the fees the terminal space, the rental. you cut people. they've been for decades now since deregulation. les is fine with people paid on a different scale than he is because they got hired later. you can't keep going after what is after all, the most important safety item in an airplane the pilots. making their work rules bad, giving them less rest forcing them to fly with minimum fuel. let's not forget that the captain of this airbus that went down was so pressed to push back on that flight he didn't have time to go to the bathroom in

barcelona before he went to dusseldorf. you cannot treat pilots this way and you've got to pay them a decent wage and treat them well. that's what makes things safe. >> les, i've got to ask what you think about this. it's incredible when you think of all that is invested in the safety of the injentechnology and the maintenance to prevent crashes, you would think equally or place greater investment in the people who are seated in that cockpit, i fly all the time, place an enormous amount of trust in the pilots. do you think they're being undervalued, pilots like you are being undervalued? >> yeah we have been. we've had our kpen sags direct salary cut. we've had our pensions frozen. various expectations that, you know we had dissipated with a lot of these bankruptcies. just sort of as a supplement to miles what he said with reference to me being on a different pay scale, i was hired

that way but found that the system didn't work because it created such animosity and disharmony among us as pilots that eventually merged into the same pay scale that took quite a while, but it got to that point. i'm fortunate i've been with a company about 31 years. so yes, there's a lot of cost-cutting involved. is there pilot-pushing? it depends upon the airline. the low-cost carriers perhaps. they are working more hours, there is a regulation that keeps them from working so many hours. but it's definitely going to be an epidemic as far as we're concerned with reference to getting pilots competitive enough experience. i think these low-cost carriers get lower experienced pilots because there's no real incentive to get on with lower compensation. >> it's incredible to hear that. you would think that would be the number one priority. les abend, miles o'brien, both pilots. you know a lot about this.

great to have you on. up next president obama tries to sell the nuclear deal with iran but facing a lot of pushback here and overseas as well. we'll have the rundown on all of it as well as what two leading experts on iran think of it and later, how do you survive 66 days at sea? i ask the father of the sailor who said he did. gary tuchman goes aboard a sailboat to see for himself. ♪ ♪ live a full life. the lexus ct hybrid with an epa estimated 42 mpg. the further you go

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more tonight on the landmark nuclear deal with iran. for now, just a frame work. not a full agreement but plenty of disagreement surrounding it. world leaders weighing in today including the president of iran. >> some think that we either should fight the world or should surrender to other powers. however, we believe it's none of that. there is a third path. we can cooperate with the world. >> president rahani said he would honor any final deal as long as it's negotiating partners do as well. israel's partner, in the

meantime isn't having any of them. >> the deal would legitimize iran's nuclear program. it would leave iran with a vast nuclear infrastructure the deal would lift sanctions almost immediately. and this is the very time iran is stepping up aggression and term in the region and beyond the region. such a deal does not block iran's path to the bomb. such a deal paves iran's path to the bomb. >> president obama spoke with prime minister netanyahu yesterday and spent this good friday lobbying equally squared leaders and some of the domestic reaction as well. joining us from the white house, jim, i know you're getting more information on the call from netanyahu. exactly how tense was that exchange? >> the white house was asked whether this is one of those tension conversations between the prime minister and they've had plenty of them.

the president wants to give the deal a chance. and the house as well. the white house has its own battle on capitol hill as well. legislation being prepared. what's the administration doing right now to convince lawmakers to support this agreement? >> yeah jim. we have not seen a full-court press like this i think since the white house tried to get obamacare passed through the congress. vice president and national security advisor, chief of staff, the u.n. ambassadors, they've all been crashing the phones for the last 24 hours. basically pleading with lawmakers not to pass any legislation that could get in the way of these talks. the white house wants members of congress to essentially stay on the sidelines until the deadline for a final deal coming up on june 30th. they want diplomacy to have a chance here.

>> well, know the republicans and democrats are drawing up legislation that could thwart this deal. the president said he would veto anything that involves sanctions but is he feeling pressure to give in some sort of buy-in or some sort of say in this? >> reporter: not at this point. and really jim, we have to keep our eyes. bob menendez by the way, facing federal corruption charges. and unclear at this point as to where it goes from here. and that measure would ratchet up sanctions on iran if the deal on june 30th. right now, congressional leaders say the corker bill that's really in play on capitol hill. support of up to a dozen democrats. that puts the bill close to the votes needed to override a presidential veto. we haven't seen the president veto many pieces of legislation, so a rare congressional override

of a veto would be pretty remarkable stuff and would be a major defeat for this white house. >> no question at all. the principle. jim acosta at the white house. thank you very much. two perspectives now. joining us valee nast sir and former official in the obama administration and kareem san ja por for international peace. i want to start by playing some of president obama on iran's nuclear program back in 2012 during a presidential debate. listen to what he had to say then. >> our goal is to get iran to recognize it needs to give up its nuclear program. and abide by the u.n. resolutions that have been in place, the deal will accept to end the nuclear program. it's very straightforward. >> the fact is in the outlines of this agreement, they do not give up nuclear program. did the president break his word in your view? >> i think the u.s. position

clearly shifted at the beginning of these negotiations. number one, we're not going to look for iran dismantling its nuclear program but rather moth balling it. and secondly we're not going to be looking for a permanent deal but rather for a deal that has a term to it which now we know is about 10 to 15 years. >> kareem i want to ask you as well. when you look at how this deal is being interpreted at this point, you really have two different versions of reality. you hear what the iranian officials are hearing back at home on sanctions, immediate sanction relief. you hear what u.s. officials say on that issue. it's going to be phased in over time and you have this on a number of details. is that just politics playing to a domestic audience or do we have a real problem of two different interpretations of what they agreed to we'll run into at this june 30th deadline? >> it's too soon to say, jim. there is a concern that we signed two different deals. the deal that came out in washington looks very favorable.

the deal which the iranians believe they signed may be they have to make less commitments. and i don't think it's a forgone conclusion we'll get a deal signed by the end of june. but i do think given the tremendous popular euphoria amongst the iranian people so eager to merge from isolation and to be reintegrated into the global economy, it's going to be difficult for the leadership in iran to disappoint them. >> it wouldn't be the first deadline moved in these negotiations. i want to ask you, the president said in defending this deal there were three options for iran. either this deal more sanctions, or war. it was interesting, we're told that during these talks the pentagon was under orders to keep updating the bunker buster bombs, designed frankly to get it underground. iranian nuclear facilities. in your view though is war

against iran to end the nuclear program an actual option? >> i don't think so. i don't think it's serious. the president has spent a number of years arguing the american people don't want a war. they don't want to spend money on wars. we've come out of afghanistan. we ended our presence in iraq. the president went to great lengths to argue against any kind of involvement in syria because it will end up being a slippery slope to a very long and large war. so it doesn't look credible to the iranians that the u.s. would seriously contemplate starting military action against a country of 80 million people. >> we heard from the israeli prime minister. if i can, play one more bit of his speech. take a listen. >> demands any final agreement with iran will include a clear and iranian commitment of israel's right to exist. >> is that a realistic outcome,

a realistic demand from the west from israel? >> well i mean israel can ask that but the problem that it causes is that it is a way in which to try to make getting into a deal in june for the united states more difficult. because first of all, the iranian simplyiran ian answer simply would be no and then counter demands to open up a whole new set of issues for the two sides to negotiate. >> briefly caakarim, is it an actual goal to wipe israel off the map as we heard in the rhetoric will? >> i don't think iran is not pursuing the physical annihilation of israel but they are pursuing the political dissolution of israel. they want to see a referendum that renders one state. no longer israel and palestine but one state with the implicitly being the palestinian

palestinians are a demographic majority. israel will become palestine. >> karim, thank you for joinings. >> thank you, jim. more tonight. an american woman charged with rying to help isis. we look closer at why global jihad is no longer just for men. and then i saw him slowly coming down the aisle. one of those guys who just can't stop talking. i was downloading a movie. i was trying to download a movie. i have verizon. i don't. i get that little spinning wheel. download didn't finish. i finished the download. headphones on. and i'm safe. i didn't finish in time. so. many. stories. vo: join us and save without settling. verizon. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked.

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i'm jim sciutto in washington. charged with a variety of terror related crimes word of another arrest. a woman also allegedly bent on joining global jihad. this time from philadelphia. thomas age 30. the criminal complaint said heshe tried to travel overseas contact an isis fighter and when asked if she wanted to become a martyr would be amazing, a girl can only wish. the larger question, what is the draw for hundreds of western women to head overseas for isis? "360"'s randi kaye investigatorses.

>> reporter: hayat boumeddiene, one of the most wanted women in the world. there's her clearing customs january 2nd the week before the paris shooting. >> she's become an iconic figure for extremists someone seen as supporting her husband in jihad. someone who is seemed to have the courage of her convictions to go all the way to syria to join up with isis. and so isis are holding her up as a role model. >> reporter: it may be working. officials estimate more than 500 western women have joined the jihadi ranks in syria and iraq. in fact up to one fifth of all foreign recruits to jihadi are women. like these teenage girls from britain expected to travel. and surveillance caught them in istanbul nearly two weeks after they left london on february 17th. >> encourage them to go to syria.

>> reporter: what possibly could have enticed this british mother of two when she became an isis fighter in syria, she was widely quoted online saying "my son and i love life with the beheaders" this jihadist also from britain. reportedly a 21-year-old medical student and on twitter, posted this disturbing image. a woman in a white doctor's coat and black burrka holding a human head. many western women are young, so they're easy targets for isis' heavy social media presence. some isis fighters communicate personally to these women asking for their hand in marriage or offering to find fighters to marry. >> isis fighters on social media are projected as these courageous handsome dashing fighters so and young girls attracted to the idea to get married and produce the next generation of jihadists. >> reporter: western women looking to join the fight on the battlefield though may be deeply

disappointed. >> when women join isis they are not warriors for the most. the vast majority of them are not going to be fulfilling these kinds of operational goals. the vast majority of them are going to be housewives to use that term loosely, because after all, isis is an organization that follows very very strict rules. >> reporter: women looking to make a name for themselves in martyrdom. abroad or perhaps here at home. randi kaye cnn, new york. >> incredible to watch. coming up next -- he said he was stranded at sea for 66 days but some say it just can't be so. our gary tuchman has that story.

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later on a remote island in the pacific and now apparently there's louis jordan. our gary tuchman has more. >> fasten your seat belt. >> reporter: inside the basket a man being lifted from the atlantic ocean. a man who had been missing for 66 days. louis jordan rescued after he said he spent most of the winter in the atlantic. in a 35-foot sailboat. jordan said the boat capsized and lost its mass during rough weather. now reunited with the father who thought he would never see his son again. 37-year-old said he set out fishing from a marina in south carolina in late january. he was reported missing on january 29th. jordan calls himself an inexperienced sailor and said he survived by dragging fish in the ocean. and drinking green water. >> the whole boat had turned around and i was flying through the air somer salting and the

floor was a ceiling, and this side was the other side and everything was upside down backwards. >> reporter: now back on land jordan brought to a hospital in norfolk, virginia where he was treated and released. authorities say he's in remarkably good condition. >> i was grateful and thankful for the rescue. grateful to god my parents were not going to be worried about me. >> reporter: how did jordan survive such an ordeal? temperatures went down to single digits in february. several sailboats to the was on. it's very rare to capsize but especially by yourself. on a day like this with wind gusts 40 miles per hour it's risky to go sailing. how long have you been sailing? >> about 40 years. >> reporter: even with the cabin similar to this one, sail time

charters said accommodations would have been very rough. if you're out on the water for 66 days on a vessel like this in winter weather, can you imagine how incredibly dangerous that is and how hard that is to survive in? >> i can't fathom how it was even possible quite frankly. >> reporter: but other sailors say a combination of skills and some good luck could indeed result in this unlikely but very happy outcome. jordan considers himself a man of faith. the name of his wrecked boat? angel. >> i almost prayed somebody would find me. and they did. yeah let's have a hug. >> love this man. love him with all my heart. >> gary tuchman joins us live from norfolk, virginia. gary incredible story. some say too incredible to be true. do authorities doubt the details of this at all? >> reporter: well firstly, jim. mr. jordan was in great peril. he was rescued 200 miles off the

u.s. coast. his boat was destroyed. everyone is very happy he's at home. but the coast guard does have questions about his time line when they rescued him. thought he was gone for 100 days. they're going to further talk to him, debrief him. find out where he was on day one, week one, month one. find out if the boat was moving if he had food, had water. it's part of the coast guard's case studies they do after situations like this but let it be said at this point the coast guard said it does not doubt at this point his truthfulness. >> happy ending for sure. thank you very much to gary tuchman. louis jordan's family never gave up hope even after the coast guard stopped looking for him. louis jordan's father frank, is here. it must have been an incredible moment at the hospital last night. describe to us how the reunion was. >> i had spoken to him a couple of times on the phone, so it was, i had already had a little contact with him for the first time in a couple of months.

but seeing him, of course was wonderful and especially it was wonderful because he looked good. hadn't lost too much weight. he wasn't badly sunburned like i thought he probably would be. he looked very good. >> so how's he doing now? i know he was treated for dehydration. he had that broken collarbone. but his spirits seemed pretty good listening to him. >> well yeah. he's actually the injuries that he sustained were in the first rollover which occurred early in the nine-week period. so he i said louis, why don't you stay at the hospital longer let him check your collarbone and stuff, he said dad, that was a couple of months ago. it's all healed up. but he's in great spirits. he went through a lot but he did have the boat to keep him, give him a little shelter, even though ittimes. still kept him alive. >> some members of the coast guard said typically when people

have been out at sea for this length of time you would see the effects of long-term sunburn, for instance. there would be other signs of just the kind of food that they were eating and symptoms that they did not see in his case. that is raised some questions among skeptics. i'm curious what you say to skeptics of this story. >> well like i said he had the shelter of his boat. the pierson 35 that's the kind of boat he had, is a very seaworthy boat. it stayed afloat. it had a cabin and he spent most of his time inside. and i think that is what protected him from the sunburn that i was expecting to see. and as far as any other disability affected by the long period of time i don't know what to say about that. now i do know this. when i spoke with him this morning, that he showed an

emotional effects of this ordeal that i had never saw of this emotion in him. he was very emotional and he's normally a very private person. so i know he went through what he went through. >> watching you there, looked like a powerful reunion for sure. frank jordan thank you very much for sharing details of what's a truly remarkable story. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. just ahead, terrifying stories from students who narrowly escape the al shi bab attack at their university. that's right after this break.

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xz we have breaking news tonight on the campus massacre in kenya. police arrested five suspects in connection with thursday's attack by al shabaab militants in somalia and found three survivors including a young woman hiding in a pile of dead bodies. she and others sharing their horrifying story. david mckenzie in kenya. >> reporter: the bad lands of northeast kenya. just 90 miles away. a constant threat to kenya's security. kenya special forces little to do now except look over the task of loading the dead.

just charged from hospital said she hid in a wardrobe when the shooting started and the terrorists found her. >> shoot them. shoot them. and then after that they give us a lecture. >> reporter: the gunman spoke swahili and wore no shoes. they gave them a religious sermon and said shot them in the head one by one, 20 women and 20 men. she survived by smearing the friend of her face. >> wiped with the blood. >> reporter: helen was rescued after ten hours. but most of her friends were not. many of the students say they fled with just the clothes on their back. escaping through a hail of gunfire and explosions. this was a thriving university with students from throughout kenya. now they're being scattered like refugees. >> there are bullets everywhere but students troubling out.

>> reporter: fled with his former son, marura. gunman asked students to recite the koran. if they couldn't they'd be killed. the survivors still reliving the trauma. she lost her best friend. >> been removing buddies all day from this university. they say that they were dozens of bodies in just one building that they had to pull out. now the red cross is coming to do the final batch as they call it. no one else is allowed inside and say the final bodies are removed, this whole place will close down. there are family members still hoping wondering where the students are. the family is. and al shabaab was largely considered a spent force cornered in somalia including by drone strikes by the u.s. and special operations forces getting on to the ground and killing top commanders but it

does appear al shabaab as a terror force is still a force to be reckoned with and when cornered it can strike out. jim? >> in the most horrible way. just a horrifying story. thank you very much for being there. this latest attack another one. a year and a half ago, the nairobi shopping center. we'll look at how that unfolded. terror at the mall starts right now.