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they've seen this. >> so pretty. thanks for starting your morning with us. >> happy easter. enjoy it with your family. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. president obama sells the iran nuclear framework as a huge diplomatic win. >> this framework would cut off every pathway that iran could take to develop a nuclear weapon. >> but his critics in congress promise a big fight over lifting u.s. sanctions. >> i'm going to do everything i can to stop these terms from becoming a final deal. >> plus -- >> was i expecting this kind of backlash? heavens, no. >> the culture wars. >> indiana and arkansas trigger a national debate and force the 2016 republican contenders to navigate the gay rights divide between big business and
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evangelicals. >> the assault in indiana and now arkansas has been shameful and it has been wrong. >> "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thanks for sharing sunday morning. happy easter. with us to share the reporting and their insights, julie pace of the, jackie kucinich and john balch. president obama describes this deal as historic yet the prime minister of israel calls reckless. just a framework for now. one the president says if turned into a detail agreement would block iran's path to a nuclear bomb. >> iran has also agreed to the most robust and intrusive inspections and transparency regime ever negotiated for any nuclear program in history. so this deal is not based on trust, it's based on
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unprecedented verification. >> but the president's critics, they don't see it that way. the key question is whether the reaction in congress makes it harder for the administration to complete the deal and the negotiations to come the administration must promise iran when around how it would begin to ease u.s. economic sanctions. >> if congress kills this deal not based on expert analysis and without offering any reasonable alternative, then it's the united states that will be blamed for the failure of diplomacy. international unity will collapse and the path to conflict will widen. >> julie pace, you've covered the white house every day. take us inside the thinking, especially the president in one way doesn't have to worry about congress for a couple more months unless and until they negotiate the final deal. it's seemed very clear that he understands the congressional opposition is so stiff that maybe the iranians will think, whoa, we're not going to get the sanctions lifted, we won't negotiate. >> the president is very worried
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that congress will take some actions. they're not concerned about congress implementing new sanctions which lawmakers have moved away from, but even taking a vote that would give congress the ability to approve or reject this deal. if the iranians see that, they could walk away from the table. if that happens, it's the u.s. that's blamed for the failure of this deal, not the iranians. i think you're going to see a very aggressive campaign by the white house to sell the deal to the lawmakers. the best thing they did is produce something that is fairly specific, much broader than what we had thought originally. >> but not just the republicans, dan. a lot of democrats still skeptical. they say iran can't be trusted. some are saying even aside from the nuclear talks, even if you were making progress there, look at the region, yemen, the middle east. why trust them? why sit down now? the president wants to make a big legacy play. >> all of that has clearly complicated his challenge in getting this accepted by more
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people in congress. i think part of what he is trying to do at this point is to peel back democrats. there are a lot of democrats who have signed on in one way or another to the bill that is co sponsored by senator corker, the chairman of the -- >> more sanctions? >> first is a congressional role. they believe they were close to a veto proof majority in terms of support. i think the white house wants to make sure that that doesn't get anywhere close to that to give them some breathing room between now and the end of june. >> as we watch this play out, speaker boehner has made clear, he talks about the other issue. my concerns about iran's able to grow terrorism. you see that factoring in the 2016 race. hillary clinton issued a statement saying this would be great if you get to the end. if you negotiate the hard things and details. even she seemed to say, i'm skeptical. >> she's caught up in her own space in her campaign. obviously part of her calculation is the question about israel. obviously the currents
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government in israel is vociferously opposed, as we know, to this deal. she, of course, is mindful of how that plays in her own politics here state side. i've been struck by her caution and also the degree to which the republicans want to seize on this. really, every foreign policy issue that is now arising. i think it's a calculation that they're going to be better off next year with a resurgent economy running against democrats on national security. i think they have made that pivot. if you look at john boehner's comments this week, this is the person that was talking about three, four years, where are the jobs? john boehner mantra. now he's saying in jerusalem, the world is on fire. a very different approach. i think it speaks to how they want to run next year. >> he has an unusual position in this. if the deal succeeds, she can order a piece of that success. if the deal fails or it allows iran to move towards a weapon, she's going to own a piece of that failure, too.
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if you remember back to when this came together and the administration was touting the secret talks, people close to clinton were calling around saying, hey, remember, this started under her. she was part of this. she dispatched one of her top advisers to aman. now as this is moving closer to a conclusion you see her display this caution. she knows there's a chance this does not work out and she is going to own some of that. >> you mentioned rand paul hasn't said anything. his team said until he makes his announcement speech on tuesday, he's not going to talk about it. he has said negotiate. he's open to negotiate. wants to see what the deal is. if the choice is another war in the middle east or trying to negotiate. most of the others are hawkish. jeb bush said nothing else would justify lifting u.s. and international sanctions. i cannot stand behind such a flawed agreement. marco rubio who gets in eight days from now, this attempt to spin diplomatic failure of success is the latest example of
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this administration's farcical approach to iran. >> well, i don't think there's any way a candidate for the republican candidate can in any way suggest anything other than strict opposition to where things are at this point. we'll see as events unfold, but at this point they have to be where the bulk of their party is. that's firmly against it. >> we've seen rand paul going that way. it's hard for me to think that he's really going to diverge from that path, the hawkish path. it seems to be where he wants to be. he sort of annihilates the narrative. >> is it part of it if president obama is for it they have to be against it? >> absolutely. >> yes. >> or is it just that we can't negotiate at all because it's iran? >> no. i think there's a lot of politics in sort of being seen on the same page with president obama, but i think it's also something that's more complex than that. i think there's an imperative towards strength in the republican primary and the
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assumption is that being strong means not, you know, cutting deals with your adversaries. obviously historically that's a little bit interesting because of reagan's negotiations, but the soviets, i think that is the sort of imperfeative now and th president obama is for it, putting aside the policy details, it makes it really tough for a candidate also to be for it if they're running a republican primary. >> you have to remember, the iran negotiations are not just about the actual talks there but about obama's larger foreign policy. he was talking about not negotiating. this is going to be a vindication or repudiation. that is driving this as much as the actual policy nuts and bolts. >> it was remarkable watching the president waiting and waiting and then the quick instant reaction from israel watching the president of the united states again in the fight with the israeli prime minister. we will watch this one play out. up next, republicans in the culture wars.
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that that's become the perception, not just here in indiana but all across this country. and we need to confront that, and confront it boldly. >> indiana did confront it quickly. indiana and arkansas both changing those laws. both republican governors signing new version. the question is, is there lasting damage for the republican party? if you look at this, 62% of americans in a pew poll in february said the republicans are not tolerant. democrats faired much better. democrats are open and tolerant to all groups of people. dan balz, i have to assume if you're a republican running for president, you don't want to get into the culture wars starting this campaign. >> no, but they are embedded between red and blue america. an american that on one hand has become much more diverse, much more tolerant particularly among young people and a part of america that is somewhat resistant to that. worries that that will erode
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important values that will be strong in this country. i think there are flash points. and we saw one in these episodes in arkansas and indiana. >> red and blue america but also stoking again the debate within the republican party between the evangelical base and the establishment chamber of commerce. we've seen it on gay rights and we'll see it on immigration. are we going to have a primary season that is defined by the same fights again? >> i think it will be a huge factor in the primary. look, i think that the business community is basically following the national consensus on these kinds of issues which has unmistakably shifted towards the left here in the last few decades but the challenge is a significant chunk of the republican nominating electorate is culturally conservative. you have a very confused candidate class or elected class in the republican party. and you saw it on display this
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week, not just among the governors like pence and hutchinson but among the candidates. they don't know what to say. >> jeb bush came out and said, i agree with mike pence, good job. when the backlash came out, he could have done this in a more consensus oriented way. was that a misstep on his part? >> i think he could not be to mike pence's right. that was how it was turning out to be if he hadn't made those comments that he did in silicon valley. he had to say something. now he's sort of in this tough spot where he pleases nobody because the right wing is unhappy with him and obviously folks in the middle, on the left are skeptical, too. what's been striking to me about this is that the christian conservatives, john, feel cornered, even persecuted. not just do they feel under duress from the left but from their putative allies in the business community. i talked to one leader who said, look, the fact is that these leaders around the country
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apparently feel like they have zero to fear except walmart itself. that's a remarkable comment. >> one of the interesting things about the position bush finds himself in, he's made the stand, i'm going to run and stand by my positions on immigration and the common core. >> lose the primary to win the -- >> you have to win the primary to be the president. i wonder if that limits the amount of other opportunities where he can move away from the base. does he have to be so cautious keeping with the base if you're already opposed on immigration? >> the one guy who has doubled down and said governors don't back down, don't accept the pressure from the left is ted cruz who launched the first ad of the campaign season today and again making a direct play for evangelicals. >> god's blessing has been on america from the very beginning of this nation. over and over again when we faced impossible odds, the american people rose to the challenge. this is our fight, and that is why i'm running for president of
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the united states. >> no secret what he's doing there, and we'll see whether we have every candidate gets their face. but since he announced a little more than a week ago he's moved up. second place in the abc washington post poll, bush 20%, cruz 13%, scott walker 12%. this intention and planting the flag on the right so far showing some results. >> ted cruz is going to poll every one of these candidates this cycle. that is going to be his role. he's going to hold firm. we've seen this in his senate career. when he picks a topic he's going to stay in that spot and make sure everybody else feels uncomfortable and has to edge towards them. not too much. i don't think they want to end up where he is. that's his role. he's that magnet. >> as you watch it play out, he's unapologetically making a play for evangelicals. rand paul has an interesting mix. he has a bit of his dad's libertarian base. he tries from the evangelical
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community. marco rubio gets in. is this third gear for the republican race now that we're getting official? >> third, fourth, fifth given everything that we've seen. we've talked a lot over the last few months over the different lanes that people are trying to occupy. the clearest is ted cruz. he knows where his base is. he believes that that is still a route to the finals in this competition. he's going to stoke it and as jackie said, he's going to try to force others to come his way or concede that part of the electorate to him. >> by the way, last week, he made a fascinating statement. he went after the fortune 500 companies in this country. it's one thing to push the feel right but he's going directly at the business community. talk about creating fissures, that's a strike to the heart. >> that's a hangover from 2014. mitch mcconnell said you don't want to can he question the tea party and the business community came in and helped him question the tea party. >> it's the populism of somebody like ted cruz recognizing the
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anger at wall street, the anger at big corporations cuts across ideology. it is not simply elizabeth warren's part of the democratic party. >> yet you can see with pence that the amount of power the business community still yields. i don't think mike pence would have done what he did if the business community hadn't been so upset. >> which inflames the grassroots more and gives that cruz argument more credence. >> the business community won this fight, can they win the larger fight? >> if the republican party talks about this throughout the primary season and they don't change that number about being viewed as tolerant, can they win a general election? >> very difficult. >> that's what hillary clinton sees. she has her brooklyn office space. she believes with younger women, suburban women. she was tweeting. all she has to do is stay back and stay out of it. >> the democrats have gotten really good of identifying when
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there are moments of division within the republican party becoming incredibly united. you saw no break among democrats over this issue. >> i think cruz on 500 corporations is different than the social issue things that we saw plii iplaying out over walm. on social issue things the republican business wing can win. on economic elements the country's in different places on that. >> oh, yeah. >> and i think that's what cruz is trying to do with the populus economic message in going after bigness. >> interesting play. everybody, stand by. up next, tomorrow's news today. we ask our great reporters to get you out ahead of the big political headlines just around the corner. also, introducing america to the real hillary clinton. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424.
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let's head around the "inside politics" table so our reporters can share something from their notebooks. julie? >> president obama turns to his foreign policy notebook, cuba. he's headed to panama. the big question is whether he meets with raul castro. it will be hugely historic and symbolic. obama's efforts to end this have been more difficult than they look. what the white house is weighing is whether this meeting would be a way to generate more progress
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or whether it will be a premature reward for the cast tro castros. the democrats around hillary clinton believe while she's the most famous people in the world, she's never been introduced in her own right. when she does roll out her campaign in the coming weeks, look for more biographical touches. we'll hear about her childhood in suburban chicago. some of the work she did as an s advocate for the legal services corporation and work she did in her 30s and more about her arkansas days as a first lady as an advocate for education. you'll see if not a biographical tour, more of who this person is outside of senator, secretary of state, first lady. >> she talks about arkansas until the drawl comes back. >> senator menendez indictment, there's been a lot of emphasis
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on girlfriend visa, fancy hotels, one of the things that hasn't been covered is super pacs and legislators contacting super pacs themselves to solicit for donations. i was talking to campaign finance watchdogs. if they look into this, they're going to find some impropriety with other lawmakers much farther than menendez. watch for that if that's happening. >> his colleagues will love that. >> sure. >> thanks, senator. dan? >> i'll pick up with jonathan's topic, which is the rollout of hillary clinton. couple of things. one, we know they've spent a lot of time putting a staff together and a lot of those people have been reported. what i'm hearing is that when they launch, this staff is going to be even much, much bigger than we at this point imagined, that they have done a huge amount of hiring. the other is the discussion that's going on about the presentation of hillary clinton, not just in terms of the biographical aspect or the messaging, but the kinds of events they're going to do.
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looking for a different way to do it. >> different way to do it, more controlled way to do it and cautious way to do it? >> not cautious. >> intimate? >> intimate. >> she did an event with the mayor of new york. that could be a template. >> they leased some space in brooklyn this past week. >> middle america. >> middle new york. i'll close with this. there will be three official republican candidates, rand paul, marco rubio and ted cruz. three by the next eight days. the next public stage is forcing tested operatives to choose sides. chris christie locked up some operatives. there were a flurry of calls. on the national level, senator paul will launch tuesday with the help of the veteran tony fabrisio. he signed off after resisting and rejecting treatise from the christie and scott walker.
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it's just april 2015, but already it's choosing time. that's it for "inside politics." thanks again for sharing your special sunday morning especially this special easter and passover weekend. israel's prime minister blasts a deal he says threatens the country. is the ncaa cheating student athletes, and finding faith in a world of turmoil. this is "state of the union." israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu slams the new deal with iran. senator dianne feinstein says give iran a chance. easter and passover collide with religious controversy. the ncaa faces new scrutiny on a huge weekend for college sports. good morning from washington. i'm jim acosta. breaking news. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu expressing his anger over the new deal
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