♪ >> let's hum it. ♪ >> amazing grace in that household this afternoon. >> that does it for rus from south carolina, and we will see you at. 11:00 p.m. eastern. cnn presents starts right now. this is cnn tonight, and i'm don lemon, and imagine this, and how the story would have sounded if the whole thing would not have been caught on camera. a traffic stop and confrontation, and police officer in fear for his life. and forced to draw his gun and fire. the suspect dead. except it is not how it happened as we are have all seen with our very own eyes in this graphic video. and now tonight, we will hear from the man who captured this event on camera. he spoke to nbc news and here is brian todd in north charleston

and now, what has been said about what happened? >> well, don, for the past 24 hours or more we have been trying to fill in critical gaps for the story, and specifically what happened in the moments leading up to when this video started being shot. how did this conflict escalate the way it did? well finally tonight, fayden santana who took the video started to fill in the gaps and not all of them, but some of them. this is what he told nbc's lester holt a short time ago. >> what did you see and what did you do? >> what i saw was as far as the video, the shooting and then after the victim dead before the video, i was walking to my job, i was walking to my job and i witness eded that i was coming out --

>> he was coming out of the store? >> yes, and i saw him maybe five or six minutes yelling and chasing to stop him. and when i first heard something i thought that somethng happened about it. so i ran to the scene to see what was going on, and when i saw him, you know, that they were ugh, on the floor, he might have fell down or tackled by the police and he was down and the police was up. trying to get control of him. i approached the scene and when you know that this was pushing him and tasering. >> and you saw the police tasering him? >> yes, i could hear the sound and it is when i started the video, and i decided to take my phone out, and maybe to triy to see the cop there the person

standing over there, and -- i started recording. that is when everything happened. >> reporter: and one quick correction because we said to lester holt but that is to nbc's craig melvin and one fascinating angle to this is how close all of us came to never understanding or realizing what happened in the incident and never finding out what happened in the incident, because feidin santana had real fears of what would happen if he released the video, and this is what he said. >> i even thought of erasing the video. >> why? >> i don't know. i felt that my life with this information might be like in danger. so i tried to -- i thought about erasing the video and just getting out of the community of charleston and leaving someplace else else.

>> reporter: leaving town, because you rare that scared? >> yes. i saw the video and once i saw the video, i knew that he didn't do the right thing. >> and of course we do need to the hear from the officer michael slager and his version of the events, and we have reached out to mr. slager's attorney andy savage tonight, and he has so far declined to comment on officer slager's version of what happened here tonight, don. >> and still a lot in question here about the actions, and we know that feidin santana has provided not only the video, bu tt the eyewitness account. and what do the mayor have to say about the stun gun incident? >> well, don, they said that they don't know what happened with the stun gun. they said they viewed the video, and they said that there is additional video that we have not seen, and we don't know what it is but maybe other dash cam or other surveillance video that could be released soon but they said that they didn't know what happened with the stun gun, and

that is a key factor here, because of course shgs, the officer claimed initially that walter scott took the stun gun, because that is not at all clear as to whether or not that actually happened or not, so it is going to be ferreted out of course in the investigation, and we again hope to hear the officer's version of the events soon and get more on the investigation of what happened in that to usle and the scuffle in the two of them and what happened in the stun gun and who used it. >> and perhaps if there were body cameras on the officer, and that might help to answer some of the questions. this is reigniting the debate. is there a planet in north charleston for body cameras or police officers? >> there is don. the mayor keith summey said that they have purchased more than 100 body cameras, and they are hope tog hoping to have every police officer in charleston outfitted with the body cameras and we heard the same thing after the madison, wisconsin, shooting

and the same thing after ferguson, and the debate over the body camera, and the police departments in question have moved to purchase the body cameras, and have their officers out outfitted with them, but of course, it happened after the fact, and that is what it looks like is going to happen here. >> and thank you, brian todd. and the scott family is thankful that the incident was captured by eyewitness on video, but mr. scott's mother says it is painful to look at it. >> i couldn't really watch the whole tape. when i saw my son running, and i saw the policeman behind him, i could not take it. i had to turn away. and i couldn't handle it. >> i am joined by anthony scott walter scott's brother and chris stewart, the family attorney for the scott family, and good evening, gentlemen, thank you

for joining us this evening. >> thank you. thank you. >> and i see that we don't have the horrible delay that we had last night, and anthony, i want to say my condolences to the family. >> yes. >> yes. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> and how are your mom and dad doing, and i can't imagine how you are able to stand up and do this interview. >> well, actually, they are not doing very well and it sis a tragedy, and it is very tragic. and right now, we are trying to deal with it, but i didn't want my parents to see the video, and neither one of them, because of their health but it went and when it went nationwide it was, i know they didn't have a choishgs but like she choice and like she said, she could not watch it, and the kids could not watch it and every time i see it, and every time i see it, i see my brother running for the last time and trying to run for his life. but he just could not outrun the

bullets, and sitit is a tragedy. >> oh. you know. last night, i asked you, i said what do you think and why did your brother run, and you said to me i think that he was running to get away from the stun gun, and that eyewitness, the man who shot the video seems to confirm what you had to say about it, and that is the second time and initially, it is believed that he ran because of something that he had in the past and you think that is what happened when he initially ran from the police and have they spoken to you about what they think happened? >> i do. i do. no they have not spoken to me about it but it might have been something in the past an outstanding warrant or something for child support, but i do think that initially he may have ran, but it is not the reason to be gunned down. >> absolutely not. chris, but fit were for something like child support, but how much what would he have gotten you know if he had been

taken in for, that and the punishment obviously not severe enough for his death. >> no. you know, he wasn't a fleeing felon as it is called when an officer can start escalating the use of force. it was not a violent crime or anything of that nature and, you know it is just sad that ended in that fashion. and that it has been confirmed today that mr. scott didn't hit the officer, and he didn't push him. and he didn't, because he was gettingtaser ertase tasersed and like that, of any person he was trying to get away. >> and now, feidin santana said he thought about erasing the video, but ultimately he turned it over. this is what he said. >> ultimately you turned it over

to families and their attorney and why was that? >> well, it is emotional, because when i turned it over i felt like i felt like i thought about his position, their situation, and you know, i said that if i were to have a family member that would happen, i would like to know the truth. >> that is not going to bring your brother back but you are grate ful grateful that he kept that tape and he didn't erase it. >> oh most certainly i am. my family is, too. because we got the truth now. and we were only seeking the truth from the beginning, because we never believed the original stories that they said. >> yes. there's a second video is now public showing officer slager shortly after the shooting examining or explaining something to another officer, and it looks like they are

examining something at the scene, and talking, and we know that there are discrepancies in what he reported and what the video actually shows. do you think that he was trying to cover something up first anthony and then chris? >> yes. definitely. >> the tape speaks for itself. he obviously had drop dped the taser when he decided to use a firearm on the individual and he shot him and he lun runs over and cuffs him and realized he shot an unarmed man as he is jogging back over, and picks up the taser, and he says well i could say that he had my taser, and he drops it right next to him. >> he needed the excuse. >> yes, and the mayor the policeman says that he is sickened by what he sees on the tape. and cnn is on the ground there and they have been hearing stories there saying that there is a problem with the police

department even though the mayor is sickened and is this a story that is a problem there in north charleston of similar activeity of suspects who weren't doing anything wrong or deserving the treatment that they were getting from police officers? >> well, i know that in north charleston you have to be extra careful because they are more likely to pull you over than other counties and jurisdictions in our area. >> anthony, what do you want from this? >> i want to see body cameras on all of the officers across the nation, and i want them to be more accountable for their actions that they take and i would like for them to think twice before they fire their firearm on someone. now, in defending yourself is one thing, but on an unarmed man, but i think that if we bring in more accountability therefore, they will think more and make better choices when it

comes to using the firearms. >> and you know, you have been really just exemplary standing up to speak to the family, and i watched your mother tonight, and give her my personal condolences. thank you, both for coming on. >> thank you. and we have a lot more ahead on the story, and i will ask a police expert what he sees when he sees this video. i will talk also to exclusively another family of a victim of police killing, the family of eric garner. in the shade. sound hard? yeah. does that mean people in laos shouldn't get their vaccine? we didn't think so. from figuring it out to getting it done, we're here to help.

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and now, we have talked to the man who talked about what he saw before he started to recording, and now we are joined by a former police aufofficer and author of "into the kill zone" and also author of op-ed columnist charles blow and also mark o'mara who is hoeppefully going to be joining us in the conversation. and now, he said that he wanted three thing, accountability, and body cameras, and police officers to think before they shoot someone, and is that too much to ask? >> well, it is not too much to ask, but it is getting to the culture of policing itself. and what we are seeing with these cases of people actually being killed is the sharp end of

the spear, right? that are there is a lot behind that that does not rise to the level of somebody losing a life, but it does rise to the level of life being severely impacted, and life being even destroyed, because of the bias that existed throughout the krimcriminal justice system, and we need all of that to be a addressed and the body cameras is a good first step in that, because it probably will have some effect on behavior, but i do think that there is a cultural change that has to take place within policing itself. and i believe that it is important because we have to restore trust between these communities and the police auf officers, and when you listen to that young man who took that video, and he said that he was afraid to even be in position of the video, because he thought

that his life was in danger, and he considered erasing it and not only that -- >> that serious. >> and moving out of the town. and that indicates a level of distrust, and diskomcomfort with the authority that we can not accept. >> i want david to respond. go ahead h, david. >> i wouldn't go as far as what charles is arguing in terms of the broader meaning, and i have been on before and i have talked about body cameras, and i am a proponent, but we have to think of the privacy issues of citizens being videotaped when officers show up but i am in agreement with that and it is telling what mr. scott's bro ether said that he wants the police officers to think twice not when their life is in jeopardy, but to think of when there is opportunities to make conscious choices of do i need to shoot or not, and before i get into this, this is one of the worst things i have ever seen in terms of the poor police performance and it wouldn't have

mattered if before the video started mr. scott killed three people or hannibal lecter or some evil person or firing a at the police officer, because there is no justification, and what the supreme court has held out of jurisprudence, it is only indication for deadly violence if you are in fear and there is no way that mr. scott was able to escape. i cannot comprehend by look agent this video that this could have been viewed in any way as a justifiable deadly force. >> but charles, is is situation so bad there, as you heard mr. santana say that i was so afraid that i was going to erase it and move out of town david.

because that is serious stuff. >> yes, and there is something of a sense in that community that goes beyond a single incident and individual. and so what i am saying is that one of the things that was positive that came out of ferguson was the interviews with the citizens in my community about the nature of the commune community relations, and all i am saying, and i have said it many times in my show and many cnn shows, and wait for the narrative to not run with the evidence until we have firm evidence but this is a situation that is deplorable. >> and david, there is a second video from the officer's dash cam that has not been released yet, but the investigators must have look ded at that, and it must not bode well for him, because they fired him today. >> absolutely and one of the thing things that i would say is that he is no longer an officer, and he a former officer, and if there is evidence that the individual who was an officer and removed the taser and

planted it on the body and those allegations, that is further evidence of a maligned heart and evil mind that would raise too a higher level, and if mr. o'marra or one of the legal correspondents comes on they can explain it in more fine detail yes, absolutely, this is bad news. >> and now, this is what the mayor said that he had no reason to initially believe the officer's side of the storey. do the police always get the benefit of the doubt in a situation, mark o'mara? >> yes, we respect them and they put their lives on the line, and we respect them, and they will be believed over an arrestee or defendant, and that is why the body cams are important, because it either features that the cop is telling the truth or that he is not as in this case. >> and what about the fact that he is willing to lie, and if you look at the video and i think

it is your assessment as well that he was trying the plant evidence and what do you make of that? >> well, a couple of things. look, i think that what happened is that there was an argument to the beginning that he tried to tase him, and that didn't take over a over, and the testosterone or whatever takes over and when he decided to take the shots, and don't forget that there were eight of them, and he hit four times, and so he was in control enough to focus, target and shoot, and so when he is down now he realizes what he just did, and then he does the coward's way out. he grabs a piece of evidence which is a violation in and of itself and i believe, and i know that we are not supposed to rush to judgment but he plant ed that, and i further believe that the officer who is down with mr. scott and saw that happen said, i am not covering for you, and don't you put that near me, and that is why it is picked back up and put back in his pocket, and that is why we have what we have now to the

individual video. >> and now, according to the charleston south carolina newspaper, the police there have fired the weapons at 209 suspects in the last nine years and some of them accused of pulling the trigger illegally and none convicted. is that surprising to you? >> well you know, it is hard to know, because you don't know what happened in each of the individual case, but however, you would assume that there is some failure rate in terms of the judgment over that large of a number of firings of weapons. and so you want to look into that more carefully and more deeply to figure out what is happening there. that said, you know i do think that we just have to step back and look at this, and say, you know something is wrong with this particular case can and that that may be emblematic of something wrong in a larger frame both in this particular police department and both kind

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make sure you pay attention to this, because we are going through the video frame by frame, and first the police chief of north charleston says he is sickened by the video, and we have heard that feidin santana says that before he started to record that there was a struggle, and that the officer was in control, and then shortly after, this is what the officer said when he called into the dispatch h. this is part of what he said. >> is shotsshots fired. subject is down. he took my taser. >> and now, let's look at that with neil franklin and also

casey look at this video, do you think that the taking of the taser is at all credible here? >> no mr. scott is trying to get away. and i don't know if you have ever been tased, don -- >> no, i haven't. >> but that is the wire? >> yes, and it is on the other the end of the wire and if the taser had been deployed, the prongs would be in mr. scott, and why would the prongs be at in end. you see what i am saying, if mr. scott has the taser device i believe that the prongs are still in or attached to mr. scott. and the actual taser device got somewhere around this -- >> what is this? >> i don't know what that is. >> unless it was wrapped around him, and we can't see it. >> it could easily be his

wallet, and the key is that the wires show that the taser is still with officer slager and maybe the barbs embedded and maybe not, and maybe he is shocked that the man he thinks that he tased is running away, because you are not supposed to do that but the taser with him. >> and casey, what could have been going through his mind, because the man who shot the video said that he thought he was trying to get away. >> and now, they were already in the back alley because the car pulled over because of the broken taillight, and mr. scott's brother, mr. anthony said that he has a record of about ten arrest and most of those are for owing back child support. >> and this is the second part of the video that he was running away and you can see slager is looking around afterwards and looking around and look ging

around, and what is that telling you, casey? >> he should have tunnel vision on the man he shot. he doesn't know if the man is armed or what. he is looking around to see who saw what i just did. that is not a normal reaction and he should be tunnel visioned looking at the man who, if it is a justified shooting who just threatened his life. >> neil? >> i am amazed how focused he was when he fired the eight rounds. i mean steady in the stance and took aim, and very foecused on mr. scott when he was running away and it is not like a knee jerk reaction and he fired two rounds, and said oh my god. >> it is seeming intentional to you and in control? >> absolutely. >> and you have trained police officers, and everybody said that he has made a bad decision, so get us insooidide of the mind of a police officer, and how much training is to help cops overcome snap decisions to make that type of snap judgment? >> well, a lot of training. one of the things that i told my

instructors that we never get to the point where we say that we have reached that pinkel of-- pinnacle of training that we don't need to receive any more training, and most departments, and i am not sure about his training, but in maryland, we do it extensively, and we build up the heart and the stress in the body. >> and so you have played for a different number of scenario and he should be able to handle this one? >> absolutely. >> and let's move on, and let's look at the rest of the video, and we will move on here. this is after the shooting. you will hear slager yell "hands behind your back," and then he cuffs him who appears limp, and runs back to appear what is the taser, and so what is going through the mind here casey? >> well the cuffing is certainly offensive to the average person who is catching but it is usually standard operating procedure, and the adrenaline is pumping, and he

has shot a person and you must go by the book and handcuff the person, and this is interesting that he goes back to get the taser, and he has called in that a man has taken his taser, and he shot a man, and so i believe he went back to get the taser and then drop it. >> and if this is sop, and standard operating procedure, how do you give cpr like that? >> well, it is standard sop immediately after, because you want to search them thoroughly first, because you don't know if there is a weapon hidden or not, but the other officer is there, searching, but then why not uncuff the person. >> and he is searching like what you are doing. >> but there sis a point where

you see there is no weapons, and he is incapacitated and there is nothing that say s thas that you cannot uncuff the person and if you want to administer proper cpr, you can do that here but not while they are cuffed. >> this is so difficult to watch. >> and -- >> why not cpr? >> well, the life of a person or the average citizen is your responsibility, so it is your job to protect and preserve the life of everyone. >> but they said they did. >> come on. >> they didn't. >> there is no sense of urgency here to save this man's life if it is in fact possible. it is very clear. >> and it is a shame. >> and i see it time and time again. >> and i hate to -- because you are watching someone's death, and i can only imagine how the family feels. >> and that is why there is outrage here, but the conversation is important, because there is always going to be the bad apples, but you can't put the actions of one police

officer on all police officers and there are those who say that he should haven't run, but the fact is that there is no respect for mr. scott's life at that exact moment. >> i want to say one thing that he initially caught mr. scott when he ran from the car. it was quite obvious that he'd be able to catch him, and we saw him running the second time. he wasn't this sprinter you know i mean he was barely running, and i don't know -- >> he is 50 years old. >> i am trying to figure out why he pulled the service weapon in the first place, and he should have taken off of him in the first place, and we train the officers how the physically deal people. >> turn it off. this is awful. it is really awful. than you, neil and casey. and up next my conversation with the family of eric garner whose incident was also caught on camera, and they have a message for the scott family.

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police officer in staten island was also caught on the cell phone video, and leaving the family devastated. joining me are eric garner's family and erica, it has been eight months since your father died and how are you doing? >> well i mean it is easy on some days and some days it is hard. but you know, i just keep on with the fight that people that support me and my marches and the things that i am doing, it just keeps me go ging. >> steven, we have not seen you talk to the media as a brother. your brother's death was captured on the video just like the south carolina shooting but the grand jury decided not to indict that officer who used the chokehold, and why is this south carolina case treated differently than your brother's case and a lot faster? >> i think it is different, because they are starting to

make a change, but i still think that we still have an issue that we have to deal with, but, it looks like they are trying to really you know do what they are supposed to do and that is how i feel. >> okay. i wanted you guys and the audience to listen to what waltert scott's mother told our very own anderson cooper a short time ago. let's listen. >> the policemen are supposed to protect the people, not try to frame them or get out of what they have done wrong. they are supposed to be honest people. protecting us. >> i can only imagine that you two can relate to that all too well. >> yes. >> yes. of course. >> that is like the same thing that me and my family then you know, talking about, been fighting for. i mean when are these cops going to be you know held

accountable, because ever since, you know my father and before then you know black people was continuous being killed by white police officers and black police officers that is there on the scene just like in my father father's case, they feel scare canned to speak up because of the retaliation, and when is changes going to come? when is our humanity going to be real iz realized? like we are people we are human beings and just by watching that video by mr. scott, that just takes me back as the way that video of my father is played over and over and it just hurts me how the family has

to go through the same traumatic experience like we went through a couple of months ago and still going through it, and we have to face it throughout our whole lives and i wanted to send a message to them that even though this is what is replaying, just remember the good times, and just remember who he was. >> yeah. >> you know. >> and i remember speaking to you about the video playing over and over, and this family, the brother has been speaking out, and we had both brothers on last night, and the po ther spoke to anderson and they are really stepping up here in spite of what is the horrible thing that has happen ed toed to them, and i think, ap don't get me wrong as with the conversation with you shgs, you know, you can correct me if i'm wrong, it is hard for you the watch, but you are glad that video is out there, and people are seeing it so that things can change is that correct? >> yes, and then no, because we haven't seen no change. even though this officer has been charged with murder, we don't know if this officer is really going to go to jail.

he might just get a fine or a slap on the wrist. i mean, we will hope for him to go to jail but look at my father's case. the officer did not get charged with anything. and there was a camera there and what makes this case even better than the next? every case should be treated the same. just because he was shot it doesn't mean that my father being choked on the camera should be downplayed even more. i think that you know what kind of change can be done from this is that, you know, actually someone, you know, standing up and being held accountable, but also what happens to the other victims, but not just one case, but all cases. i mean you know he has just been and he been charged with a case within two days. it took ten week ss for my father's case to be even heard

to the grand jury and still then didn't came out with no indictment, and here it is now with the person responsible for prosecuting my father's case d.a. daniel donovan is running for congress, and they know that they do something, and the cops do something and then try to kovrcover it up. >> and you feel that there no repercussion for it. and not to cut you off, erica, because i think it is important what you are doing, and steven, i think that you are involved in this as well the entire family you are involved in a concert for justice that you are performing and a concert for police terrorism, and what is the message here? >> well, that is to say that even though, you know, my father passed away a couple of months ago or it goes beyond my father and me talking about my father, but it is everyone to open up the conversation about the community and open up their minds, and this is why i

started, you know, the garner way foundation to relentlessly continue protesting and continue to keep marching you know, because these peoples is being murder ed murdered by the cops. >> i have to go, erica and your song is "this ends today" and that is by the garner family. than you, erica and steven. we will be right back. i'm louis, and i quit smoking with chantix. i told myself for so long that i needed to quit smoking. i would quit then i'd go right back to it. chantix absolutely helped me quit smoking. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking.

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it is time for trouble, because mi row is . it is time for trouble, because mike rowe is back with me. >> yes, it is trouble. >> and you have been watching as your parents say that you are on cnn and it is a great mystery and you don't know why you are on but you are on, because you know a lot about a lot of thing, and talk about what is happening in the country, and what is happening in alleged police brutality, and last year you were asked about the protest with eric garner and the viewer was megan and you said i am all about routing out the bad cops,

but if we are serious about saving lives, let's all eliminate the confrontations that lead to the demise of garner and brown, let's also kon condemn the stupidity that leads to so many americans to resist arrest. i don't care if you're white, black, red, periwinkle, burnt um ber or chartreuse, resisting arrest is not a right thing to do. >> and what have is you seen on the video, what are you seeing? >> well, from what i have seen on the video, that is b-a-d. >> and to your point of what you were saying. >> well, to my point, i don't know if the man had not run, and i dont noe't know if the cop would have shot him, and i wish that none of it would have happened. >> and to the broader point, you wish that none of them would have been resisting.

>> look at the point in my little facebook page, the kon conversation was getting robust, and people were asking me for reasons they don't fully understand to say something about it, and i related a couple of incidents in my own life and talked broadly about the incident in san francisco, and what i was hearing, and so i felt like, look, in the end, there's just no upside to taking this thing apart and unpacking it after the fact. the moment is right there. >> and there is no upside too, and nobody is blaming someone for, for, having been a victim of police brutality -- >> sure. >> -- but in the current climate what you are saying is that the best thing to do is not to run in the current climate. >> i wouldn't, but i look that i get it from my own experience and my own life and my own world view and i get that it is differentb and i would not in a million years run. i would not. >> and from your own

perspective, i get that. >> and in the dirty jobs and throughout the career, have you been a cop or work with the police? >> sure. i have worked with -- >> it is a hard job. >> well yes, any kind of first responder, because it is the unis certainty more than anything. you know that the bell is going to ring but you don't know when. you know you are going down the pole, but you don't know when. and you know there is a problem, but you don't know when. and you could fill a book with you don't know when. >> and you know that someone is going to shoot at you and you don't know when. >> and you don't know if you are going to be shooting back, and you don't know what the results will be. >> and i'm with your mother. >> hmm? >> you are bullfighting and is this not supposed to be as dangerous as the last gig. did you lie at your mom? >> yes i looked at her square in the face and i lied to her, and i will tell you that there is no logical thing to do between a mother and a son than lie. and without apology and without pretense and you just have to

tell them that they know what they want to hear and deal with the fallout later e. >> and part of your new gig here -- mom is not going to be happy, and here it is. >> and he is ready. you just keep watch ging. be ready. stay over there, mike. move over there, mike. >> hey, hey, hey! >> kids' play, frank. >> what the hell were you doing there? >> well, there is one rule in bullfighting, and like if it were "star trek" the prime directive would be run towards the bull, and then outmaneuver him and outflank him, but they are faster than you, but not as nimble and it does not matter how many times they drill the one rule into you, and when the 2,200 animal with the sharp

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that is it for us tonight. i'm don lemon and we will see you back here tomorrow night. "ac360" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com it is 11:00 p.m. here in charleston south carolina and it is a busy and emotionally searing day. the police officer who shot walter scott has been fired. and the man who videotaped the incident has come forward. i interviewed the mother of walter scott tonight, judy scott, and she has found the strength and the grace -- the grace to say she forgives the man who killed her son. and a lot to the think about. jason carroll brings us up to