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the government agency hovering near by. >> the people who say the world is different and dangerous who frankly been watching too much tv. >> reporter: and, jake, new details from the police say it took cps nearly 2 1/2 hours for a decision what to do with these kids while the officer waited for that information. cps is saying that the child protection is important. they'll talk to all parties involved. >> suzanne malveaux thanks. that's it for "the lead." turning you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room"." happening now manslaughter charge. showing the shooting of an unarmed man by a law officer who thought he was reaching for a stun gun but ended up firing his real epen with deadly effect now that deply is facing charge. a stunning new recording capturing the aftermath of the walter scott shoots as the officer charged reacts to what just happened. new criticism of a second police officer. why some want him fired and
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indicted. russian aggression? intercepting a u.s. spy plane and the pentagon firing back with angry words. what's behind the growing number of these incidents. and ready for a road trip with marco rubio about to announce his own presidential candidacy, hillary clinton launches her white house run by heading cross country, to iowa. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we're following major new developments in two fatal police shooting of unarmed african-americans. our breaking news as shocking video shows the deadly moments of a fleeing suspect in oklahoma. the reserve deputy who pulled the trigger thought he was yazzing a stun gun, not a hand gun and now charged with second-degree manslaughter. a new recorders captures the moments after michael slager fatally shot walter scott in
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south carolina. slager charged with murder talking seemingly like lightly how his adrenaline is pumping and now ak cuesizationing of charging nor officer on the scene. let's begin with this new manslaughter charge in tulsa, oklahoma. cnn's ed lavandera is on the scene. ed? >> reporter: well wolf those charges, criminal charge filed a short while ago here in the city of tulsa, and the attorney for robert bates the 73-year-old reserve deputy accused in this shooting says he is remorseful for what has happened. just moments before he was shot -- >> oh i'm sorry. i'm sorry. >> oh -- [ bleep ] oh [ bleep ]. he shot me! >> reporter: eric harris captured on surveillance video appearing to sell a .9 millimeter pistol and ammunition to an undercover sheriff deputy. moments later harris spots a
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swarm of underare cover agents and runs. >> stot right there. >> reporter: a deputy tackles harris when 73-year-old reserve deputy robert bates shouts he'll use this taser. >> now. >> reporter: the tulsa county sheriff's officer says bates instead grabbed his gun and pulled 9pull ed the trigger. >> i'm sorry. >> oh [ bleep ] he shot me. he shot me! >> stop fighting. >> [ bleep ] -- [ bleep ]. >> oh he shot me. he shot me. >> do you hear me? [ bleep ] -- ran! >> oh god. oh he shot me. i didn't [ bleep ]. he shot me, man. oh, my god. >> reporter: even as he lays dying the officers taunt him. >> i'm losing my breath. >> reporter: a retired police officer named jim clark has been brought in to review the fatal incident. >> you can train someone as much as you can.
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and you train in every area that you can, but in times of crisis sometimes training is not going to take you through the scenario. >> reporter: with the video released questions turned to why bates, an unpaid certified reserve deputy was on the scene in such a sensitive and high risk sting operation. >> mr. bates lacked really any kind of training that mr. bates had been a tulsa police department officer from 1964 to 1965 one year and never paced probationary period. >> reporter: saying bates was afforded opportunities within the task force due to his significant and long-standing support of the sheriff's department. >> do anything he wanted to. you heard the sheriff's department say, like any other officer could do but he could do it with no training. and he could do it just with total access. i mean, cart blanche freedom to do wa when he wants to do. incredible dangerous to a
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community. >> reporter: a sheriff department spokesman tells cnn it stands by the deputy's actions but the d.a. office makes clear they see it differently charges robert bates with second-degree manselaughtermanslaughter. and, wolf, the sheriff's department we spoke with still supports deputy bates saying he had gone through extensive training reached the highest level of deputy program and inclined to be in that situation and it wasn't anything out of the ordinary and had done that worked in that environment many times before. wolf? >> ed lavandera, shocking story indeed. more on that coming up. turn now to the fatal police shooting in south carolina. a gripping new audio recording of the moments after the police observation michael slager shot walter scott. new controversy about the actions of a second police officer who arrived on the scene. piecing all this together what are you learning?
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>> reporter: the controversy in north charleston is growing and the trouble spreading to at least one other police officer. the second officer who arrived on the scene is now under intense pressure and there's new audiotape of the officer who fired the fatal shots, michael slager and what you hear him doing has outraged people inside and outside the law enforcement community. in the harrowing moments after walter scott is gunned down police are desperately trying to process the scene. tonight, for the first time we hear the voice of the man who fired the fatal shots. officer michael slager in new dashcam audio, is "apparently heard speaking to a senior officer about what's next. the senior officer advises him to go home wind down. >> go hem, probably a good idea to kind of shut down your thoughts jot down what happened adrenaline quits pumping. >> it's pumping. >> oh yeah oh yeah. >> reporter: slager's apparent laughter is an outrage to one
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law enforcement veteran. >> disturbs me greatly. the worst possible thing can you do take another person's life. i as a professional law enforcement person very disturbed over that. >> reporter: another says take into account the stress of the moment. >> understands he's done something wrong and has a problem. his nerves releasing somehow and i wouldn't read much into the laughter. >> reporter: the first officer ton the scene is under intense pressure. the officer is seen in the amateur video tending to scott's wounds. under scrutiny is this moment when slager returning to where scott's body lies appears to be seen throwing an object next to the body. it may or may not be a taser. habersham appears to be a couple of feet away but nowhere in habersham's initial police report does he mention this moment. the national bar association, a group of african-american attorneys and judges is calling for habersham to be fired and indicted saying officer
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habersham deliberately left material facts out of his report. a former fbi agent says action should be taken against habersham if he saw slager drop that object. >> i think that the failure to do that indicates there was more loyalty to slager than there was loyalty to the ethics of the profession. >> reporter: some believe the criticism of officer habersham at this early stage of the investigation is unjustified. >> we don't know number one, where he was looking. other things on his mind. responding officers coming ambulance on the way. we have no way of knowing whether he, in fact, saw any actions that mr. slager was taking. >> reporter: now we reached out to the attorney for officer clarence habersham and to the north charleston police seeking response from all of those entities to the new allegations against habersham. the attorney did not get back to us. the police said they would not comment citing the investigation. south carolina's law enforcement division handleing the probably
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did not respond. officer michael slager's attorney did not respond to the criticism of his apparent laughter right after the shooting. >> a second new audiotape, brian that has surfaced right after the shooting. right? >> reporter: captures a little emotion right afterward, yes. the second audio taken from dashcam video from inside a patrol car captures a phone call between lag slager and someone cnn believes is his wife. hey, hey, everything is okay. i just shot somebody. "he grabbed my taser." says yeah a couple times. he was running from me. i'm fine. wolf? >> another major development, brian. thanks very much. let's go live to south carolina now. martin savage in north charleston where the pain is deep outrage, and the family of walter scott, are they looking to see the second police officer who arrived on the seen do they want him investigated, maybe even charged? >> reporter: at this particular point they say no. comfortable with the fact is
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under investigation by stays law enforcement, the oversight body looking into the entire incident and will wait and see what those investigators come forward with when it comes to the second officer and whether or not they should be indicted on charges. some protesters said definitely there should be an officer indicted over this matter, but in the community overall seems now it's a wait and see attitude wolf. >> the police community in north cars charleston have she responded to the arrest, the murder charge of that fellow officer. >> reporter: a few are opening or talking publicly about their feelings however those quoted in other areas have said that they're deeply troubleed by what they've seen. we already know the chief of police was sickened by the video. we know the mayor has been very sympathetic towards resulter scott's family. the only supporting the officer right now are, of course, his 340er mothers, his wife and second attorney. remember his first attorney stepped away from the case.
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it would seemly in law enforcement right now are backing out from any kind of support when it comes to michael slager. >> what about the protest there's in north charleston? what have they been like? >> reporter: well on a daily basis. one is just starting to warm up behind us now. they've been peaceful, all of them, and primarily people giving their own statements and times they've suffered at the hands of local law enforcement. last night, new reinforcements arrived. those who protested in ferguson moshgs missouri. seems the attitude may be changing going from what had been simple demonstration to what now in the organization say will be resistance. wolf? >> martin thank you. martin savidge reporting from north charleston south carolina for us. joining uses sedrick alexander president of the organization of black law enforcement executives and serves on president obama's task force on 21st century
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policing. as usual, thank you very much for joining us. talk first about what shocking development in tulsa, oklahoma that reserve deputy 73-year-old bob bates, now facing second-degree manslaughter charges. let me play the tape once again. watch this. i don't think we have that tape right now. we're not going to play it but saw it just before. soapsedly thought he was using a taser instead of a handgun and shot and killed the suspect in this case. what do you make of it? >> well the whole scene is going to be troubling and it's going to raise a number of questions, wolf. in regards to the procedure itself. certainly, the officers were working wipp inging inging within their right in terms of making an arrest. once they got hands-on subject, something very clearly and very tragic went wrong. now, this could be a training issue.
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of course taking into account, that is a very high stressful time for everyone involved but anytime someone is shot even accidentally in an incident such as that it certainly creates a great deal of pause, particularly a climate we're in at this very moment. the other thing rather disturbing about that whole piece of footage even after the victim was shot an appearance of absolutely no concern to his well-being even after they determined he was shot and you saw that and you heard it quite frankly, through much of the verbal conversation that took place on that video. >> i think we have that video. let me see if we can play it right now. watch this. >> stop right there. [ bleep ]. >> i -- >> roll on your stomach, now! >> i shot him. i'm sorry.
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>> ah -- oh -- he shot me. he shot me! he -- >> oh stop fighting! >> [ bleep ] -- oh -- oh -- >> oh he shot me. he shot me. he -- you hear me? put your hands behind your back! [ bleep ]. >> disturing. eastern after shot you saw what was going on. the investigators brought in to look at the case says bates is the reserve deputy the 73-year-old, not a paid police officer. that he hadn't done anything criminally wrong but the sheriff's department is still standing behind bates, the sheriff's department recommended not pressing charges but in this particular case, as you know the district attorney decided to move forward with the charges of second-degree manslaughter charge. do you think that's appropriate? >> well i mean what's going to be appropriate in that community is going to be based on what the investigative bodies in this case the d.a.'s office determine as being appropriate.
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and i'm certainly not going to question what they do or not do. i think the important piece is that this is still an ongoing investigation, and i think a number of factors need to be taken into account, but if that's the position that the d.a. takes at this point, then he or she certainly reserves the right to do so based on the evidence that has been presented to them. >> what worries you is that in the aftermath of the shooting, they really are still pounding away not really trying to do anything to save his life. right? >> well that's what it appears to be, but, of course, wolf you and i are not there. and i've been in situations or similar to this before and many of us who have been in a profession for a period of time know were be very challenging, but here's a man who has been shot. and it's very clear to everyone that he has been shot. but some of the language and footage there is somewhat i think, disturbing and this all could go back to training and hopefully more training than just attitude. >> it's just in tulsa.
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north charleston south carolina, the shooting of walter scott there officially label add traffic stop gone wrong before the video emerged, that horrific video we've all seen by now. do you believe these charges, the murder charge against the police officer, michael slager works have gone forward if that video didn't exist? >> well one thing is very evident here it's that we do have the video. the video certainly tell as story. a great significant part of that story that is going to be very important going forward, and here again, in the state of south carolina the law enforcement will along with the d.a.'s office felt it was appropriate, had probable cause, obviously, in order to affect an arrest and, therefore, that's going to be respected from where i am regardless of the decision that they made. so, therefore, based on everything we see, we clearly see something wrong here in south carolina. that was just disturbing and shocking to all of us inside the
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law enforcement community and outside as well too. >> and now there are calls for some sort of serious investigation of a second police officer there who arrived on the scene. sedrick, stand by. i want to pick up the conversation with you. a lot more to discuss. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. (dog) mmmmm. beneful, look at that, meaty chunks, carrots... i don't know what kind of slicer or dicer you got back there... ...but i'm a big fan. (vo) beneful chopped blends, a healthy blend... ...your dog will love. made with real beef. plus carrots and barley that you can see.
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carolina when what you've seen would you also issue charges potentially against the second police officer who arrived on the scene after the shooting, officer clarence habersham? >> well, i think it's important to remember that the officer that came up habersham, obviously came up app as backup to officer slager. so i think what has to be determined in all fairness one involved wolf there needs to be an ongoing investigation to make real determination what was the language used at that scene and what was meant by it and i think that's not going to be determined by the video we see or the short piece of footage that we're listening to but it's going to require further investigation in all fairness to that officer, to that department and to that community overall. >> fairness is clearly important. >> very important. >> serm.certainly. what about the new exchange of audio we just heard? you can hear the police officer, michael slager responding to a
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senior officer, laughing about the adrenaline pumping after the shooting? in fact let me play that for you. >> uh-huh. >> get home probably be a good idea to kind of jot down your thoughts of what happened. >> okay. >> your adrenaline still pumps. >> it's pumping. >> all right. is that odd? because he seemed to be slager laughing off the shooting just a little bit of this unarmed man, walter scott, shot him five times in the back and in the ear. >> well that officer's overall behavior is somewhat questionable and concerning to all of us. i wouldn't as one of your guests they stated earlier, i wouldn't read a lot into it. everyone was probably very stressed during that moment. sometime a quick laugh as such is inappropriate as it may appear and is, quite frankly sometimes that's just anxiety that may just be playing itself off. but i think overall when you
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look at the entire piece of footage from the time that the shots were fired up until the time he walks towards the body we saw very little concern, emotion or help being offered to the victim at that time. so if you put it and you compartmentalize it that way, none of it looks, feels or is perceived as being someone that is trying to provide some help, even after he shot and killed the victim here. >> do you believe race was a factor in the shooting death of walter scott? >> let me say this -- i don't know what was in the head of officer slager. i hope race was not. but i can't tell you definitively that it wasn't. i can only hope that in today's policing that we have advanced ourselves with all of our officers way beyond that and hopefully that is not the case but i don't know what's in the head of that officer. >> most police office almost all around the country, are decent hard-working they want to protect us.
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we need their protection. they play a critically important role but there are so many of these cases now that emerge and now that there is cref phone, dashcam video, body camara video, we're seeing a lot more of this. how do we train specifically -- let me rephrase the question. ho how do you and your colleagues train officers to make sure these incidents do not recur? >> we have to go beyond training. training is an important part of it utilizing modern technology and that's afforded to us is very important as well too. but what is critically important here is we have to make sure from the onset that we're hiring the right people wolf and we're training the right people and personalities for this job. this is a guardian position and we're here to protect and to serve, but the community has a responsibility as well too, to work closely with police. but i think we have to recruit a lot more carefully as we move
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forward into the 21st century as as we recruit bet around train better hopefully we see less of these incidents. across the country. >> and maybe if local, state, federal authorities pay better you'll get better people wanting to serve as well. just a thought. i've got to thieve there. sedrick alexander, president of the national organization of blah law enforcement executives. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me wolf. when we come back shifting gears. experts standing by. new evidence that terrorism could be on the rise. we're going to ask if it's realistic to capture for trials in the unite instead of using drones to target them for killing on the battlefield. plus a frightening close call has the u.s. complaining about a russian jet fighter's flag grant disregards of standards for safety and professionalism.
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an american jailed and accused of being an al qaeda operative once seen by the u.s. government as a target aassassination by drones. what to do with terror suspects? capture them or target them for killing on the battlefield? joins us now cnn counterterrorist phillip mudd national security analyst peter bergen law enforcement tom fuentes, and intelligence and security analyst bob bair also a former cia operative.
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bob, is the strategy of capturing these terror suspects bringing them back to the united states for trial rather than simply using a drone to kill them is that a realistic strategy for the government to pursue? because we know until recently the goal was to simply kill these people. >> well wolf i'm for bringing them back and putting them on trial for no other reason than to expose anonymity of their arguments and violence let the world know who these people are. those you can't get to you have to disrupt them with drones and assassinations. there are two classes of people. often when you bring them back you can bring them around to talking, especially when faced with life in prison. >> and potentially get useful information to the process. phil how much can the u.s. trust 134 ofsome of the partners for this? say pakistan or some other country says we have good information, there's an american
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who's a terrorist. go out, use a drone, kill him? >> if returning these operations against americans you cannot use foreign intelligence to target an american for a drone operation. developing intelligence whether somebody posing a threat and that individual is an american use your own stuff. the other side of the coin can you trust the foreign governments intelligence saying we've identified the location well enough to pick him up? aye looked at the case in the paper. a huge risk. every day you sit and there say, i'm hoping or gambling that foreign service can pick this guy up is a day he has a chance to plot against america. it's a huge cost benefit. >> correct me if i'm wrong, you've been in a room where these decisions have to be made send out a drone, assassinate -- >> don't get me from trouble, wolf. >> ever hehesitate. >> on the front end. intelligence and legal premise to target someone symbolintelligence
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reach a threshold and confident enough the person on the ground is actually the person we're hearing on the phone or talking to an informant about? once you reach that threshold of confidence that the person is involved and conspiring against america, and that it is who you think it is, you've got to lock and load. >> does it make a difference if it's a u.s. citizen or non-u.s. citizen? the terror suspect? >> depends who you ask. my view it does not. i'm in the minority here. if you decide that someone is an eminent threat to america that is they're training people to target operatives against new york city and if you decide you cannot capture that person it's not clear to me why you say, if that person's a pakistani or yemeni that's hugely different than whether they're american. if you wait and sit on that case and somebody dies it's the same problem. you can't take that risk. >> what's bet jer kill a suspect on the battlefield, tom, or bring that suspect back to the united states for trial? >> there are cases you can make an argument one way or the other. from my voi, you know i travel
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all over the world running fbi international operations and being on the board of interpol. we preach we're the united states stand for the rule of law. except when we don't want to and do things we want to do. second problem with the drone attacks is for every one of these guys with take out we have taken out innocent men, women and children causing entire villages extended families and regions to hate us and that reduces their cooperation with us and with their host government. there's a down side to drones that are very serious either morally and the long term. >> you want to quickly weigh in, peter? >> a reason that popularity of the united states is around 10%, clo es to zero in pakistan. because of the drone program's in this case an american citizen wasn't deemed to be an imminent threat to the united states and captured in pakistan. been in the united states for a period of time. he's clearly been interrogated at grange length and the it's the way the government works. they're not supposed to willy-nilly kill people.
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that's supposed to be the option of last resort not of first resort. >> they say it is last resort. not willy-nilly. give it a lot of -- >> dead men don't tell tales. and so we gather huge amounts of intelligence from people that we bring into custody and put on trial. >> another matter. you're right about that. bob bair, i want to show you and viewers isis propaganda video just released showing the destruction of literally thousands of years of archaeological sites in a major archaeological -- destination. people going there for a long time just to see what's going on. you see what's going on. isis has gone in there, chainsaws, bulldozers and simply destroying these places with significant religious significance as well. what's going on here? >> well wolf what we're seeing here is this is this whole idea of destroying all graven
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images comes out of saudi arabia. wahhabi ed lombislam expected since the '70s. they destroyed even old mecca medina graven images. represented them. they will cut down tree the wahhabis because pagans worship them. you see this bloody-minded cult which i think is deviant from islam, going after these sites, and it's not just in iraq. they're going after them in libya, going after them in syria. anywhere they can get to them, but that is emblematic how bad this movement is and how destructive it snd and the reason we need to go after it hard. >> you're not blaming the kingdom of saudi arabia for this brutality going on in iraq? >> well i do indirectly. historically they exported this philosophy to pakistan to al qaeda, to yemen all the way around the middle east. this goes back to the iranian
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revolution in '79 thinking their version of sunni islam would save the kingdom. i think it got out of hand but they're not behind the destruction of these archaeological sites. >> no. what do you think? >> if you're a member of isis you're saying there is no god but god. we look at these sites with museums with these statues as history. they view these as graven images as bob said. in other words, images you could worship. since there is no god but god they've got to destroy these images because there's a prospect someone might view them as religiously significant. i understand what they're doing but it is primitive. >> guys leave it on that note but don't go too far away. still ahead, we have new details about a scary incident that has the pentagon complaining about what it call as russian fighter
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happening. latest aircraft an american surveillance plane had a very close encounter, dangerous encounter according to u.s. officials with a russian fighter jet. at the same time russia threatening an arms sale to iran which could greatly reduce u.s. military options in the event that nuclear negotiations with iran fail. this is the missile here. the s-300. u.s. officials protesting this very loudly today as well. >> reporter: these powerful russian surface-to-air missiles may soon be in the hands of iran. moscow lifting its ban on selling the missiles to tearhran with days of progress in the west's nuke colors talkclear talks. responding with alarm. secretary of state kerry -- >> russia understands that the united states takes seriously the safety and security of allies in the region. if this sort of arrangement were
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to move forward it would raise serious concerns and even could potentially raise sanctions concerns. >> reporter: russia is a partner to the nuclear talks with iran. however, washington and its allies fear that iran could use the missiles to shield nuclear sites from potential air strikes, if negotiations fail. and above eastern europe another high-flying u.s./russia encounter. this time as a russian fighter jet intercepted a u.s. reconnaissance plane. the us-134u flying over air space when a russian fighter flew so close, says the pentagon, the to "flagrantly diso'dis disobey disobey. >> see what professionalism pilots have postures to show strength.
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they're attempting i think right now to intimidate eastern european countries do that the last couple of weeks. showboating for the russian public and doing it because they can right now. no one's stopping them. >> reporter: a sense of just how often, how widespread these close encounters are. look at the map here. the number of places around the world, not just in europe but over here in asia. off the north american coast here in the north up along alaska. even as close as you can get to california here as well. this happening all over the last year to give you a sense of the numbers. in europe alone, 400 close encounters with nato aircraft and russian aircraft. that's just in this area here and that is up four times in the span of 12 months. this is something, wolf that through the last several months pentagon officials have spoken about frequently to me. they say they watch these very closely and are genuinely concerned about how close those russian pilots get, because they're worried about them hitting each other.
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having an international incident where one plane takes down another plane. you can imagine what a serious snant would be between the u.s. and russia now. >> can only imagine how bad. hope it never happens. standing by for breaking news. republican senator marco rubio is about to make it official he's running for the 2016 republican presidential nomination. his announcement from miami is coming up live. also a surprise customer at a highway restaurant. presidential candidate hillary clinton on a road trip to iowa. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam.
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republican senator marco rubio will announce he's joining the race. we're standing by to bring you his speech live. also breaking now newly announced democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton is on the road to iowa and surprising potential voters along the way. let's get more on the road trip. our senior washington correspondent has more on this part of the story. jeff? in that picture she is stopping in ohio at a chipotle restaurant. lack hillary clinton is trying it to drive home the point from the very beginning this will will be a different kind of presidential campaign, more biography, more focus on voters. she started out meeting them one by one. in a van nicknamed scooby hillary clinton is head to go iowa for her first campaign stop hitting gas stations along the way, taking time to meet people like chris lern a penn state student who shared his pictures with cnn. she's trying to shed a bit of her celebrity and trying to build a connection with middle-class americans. >> every day americans need a
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champion and i want to be that champion. so you can do more than just get by. you can get ahead and stay ahead. >> reporter: with this campaign video, clinton officially jumped in a the presidential race on sunday offering the first glimpse of why she wants to be president. >> that's why i'm hitting the road to earn your vote. because it's your time and i hope you'll join me on 24 journey. >> reporter: climbing into the back of a van for a 1,086 road trip in had he home in chappaqua, new york, headed for monticello iowa passing through pennsylvania and ohio as well as her home state of illinois before reaching iowa. she is still haunted by her third place finish in 2008. diana phoenix still remembers standing in line to see clinton back then. she ultimately supported barack obama, and now has questions about how much of a middle-class champion clinton actually is. >> ties to wall street some of the votes she has voted that
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have not been as strong on keeping the banks in line and lending. >> reporter: when clinton arrives in iowa on tuesday, she'll see that the 2016 campaign is already well under way. democrats like former maryland governor martin o'malley and former virginia senator jim webb have already been working the state. on the republican side the field is even more crowded with each hopeful trying to make a name for himself at clinton's expense. >> i believe in the power -- >> reporter: at a campaign stop today senator ted cruz led the charge. >> president obama and secretary clinton have had their chance. their policies do not work. >> reporter: for now at least clinton is ignoring all of her rave rivals as she makes her return to the campaign trail. bill clinton will not be at her side but still provides irresistible fodder for "saturday night live." >> this election is about you. i don't want to hog your limelight.
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i am leaving. look at me go. bye. i'm gone. >> reporter: now the tempt activists in iowa i talked to today say they are ready for clinton it to come to the state, but they have a long list of questions to ask about her vision and just what shea would do as president. >> a lot more on the story coming up, jeff thanks very much. marco rubio jumps into the race. the florida republican is about to formally announce his 2016 run. we'll bring it to you live.
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why does marco rubio say he's uniquely qualified for the job? we'll bring you his speech live. second-degree manslaughter. new charges again a deputy after another shooting caught on video. he says he thought he was using his stun gun not an actual gun. how did it happen? just shot somebody. we now have a voice recording of officer michael slager soon after he killed a fleeing suspect in south carolina. did he laugh off the incident? and worst of the worst -- which u.s. airline is most likely to arrive late lose your bags or just tick you off? stand by for a new study on the unfriendly case. we want to welcome our viewers from the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." this is cnn breaking news. and let's get to the breaking news. a new entry in the 2016 presidential race. senator marco rubio is with about to become the third major republican to declare his
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candidacy only hours after democrat hillary clinton announced her campaign and set off on a road trip to iowa. we're awaiting rubio's remarks in the crucial battleground state of florida where former governor jeb bush also is expect expected to jump into the race for the white house. our correspondents and analysts are here to break it all down. but first, let's go to our chief congressional correspondent dana bash standing by. she is there where rubio is getting ready to make his announcement. danea, set the scene. >> reporter: the excitement is absolutely building here. we expect the senator to come out pretty much any minute at this point to address the crowd. i'm told that that's going to be about a 12-minute speech not a very lengthy one, and the themes will be very lofty, very idealistic about the american dream. the kind of theme marco rubio, a cuban exile, cuban refugees has been talking about for some time that he is the son of a
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bartender, a maid and the fact that america was so welcoming to his family and he is the american dream and wants to make sure that happens in the future but i think probably one of the most noteworthy things that we've gotten some excerpts that they've released, it is the idea of the future. he's very much making this about a generational choice. in fact, uses those words, a generational choice, saying yesterday is over. it's about tomorrow. seems to be a two-pronged hit there as his mentor and old friend jeb bush who is in his 60s, a republican competitor and the person we expect to be the democratic nominee also in her 60s, hillary clinton. meanwhile marco rubio is just 43 years old. >> what's it like there in the room where you are, dana? >> reporter: it's a crowded room. it's an interesting venue. this is much more conducive for symbolism, the reason he chose
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it than keeping in the media age. the reason i'm on the phone -- i believe he's coming out now. as he's coming out, i'll tell you this is the freedom hour which is effectively the ellis island for cubans a couple decades ago where they would come and get -- come to the united states to get processed in this very room. his family didn't do so but this is why he chose it. >> and here he is, the florida senator, marco rubio. he's about to make it official. he wants to be the next president of the united states and here he will explain why. >> marco! marco! marco! >> thank you. thank you. that is a lot of cell phones. thank you. thank you for being here. after months of deliberation and prayer about the future of our country, i have come here tonight to make an announcement
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on how i can best serve. i choose to make this announcement at the freedom tower because it is truly a sim symbol of our nation's identity as the land of opportunity. despite our troubles we have it in our power to make our time another american century. in this very ram five decades ago, tens of thousands of cuban exiles began their new lives in america. their story is part of the larger story of the american miracle. as far as their talent and work would take them, a collection of immigrants and exiles, of former slaves and refugees together built the freest and most prosperous nation ever. you see, for almost all of history, power and wealth belonged only to a select few. most people who have ever lived
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were trapped by the circumstances of their birth, destined to live the life their parents had. the children and the grandchildren of people who refused to accept this. [ applause ] both of my parents were born to poor families in cuba. after his mother died my father had to go work when he was 9 years old. my mother was one of seven girls raised by a disabled father who struggled to provide for his family. when they were young, my parents had big dreams for themselves. but because they were born -- because they were not born into wealth or power, their future was destined to be defined by their past. and so in 1956 they came here to
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america, to the one place on earth where the aspirations of people like them could be more than just dreams. here in america my father became a bartender. my mother a cashier, a maid a kmart store clerk. they never made it big but they were successful. two immigrants with little money or education found stable jobs, owned a home retired with security and gave all four of their children a life better than their own. my parents achieved what had come to be known as the american dream. the problem is now too many americans are starting to doubt whether achieving that dream is still possible. hard working families that are living paycheck to paycheck, one unexpected expense away from disaster. young americans unable to start a career or a business or a family because they owe
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thousands of dollars in student loans for degrees that did not even lead to jobs. and small business owners who are left to struggle under the weight of more taxes, more regulation, and more government. why is this happening? in a country that for over two centuries has been defined by equality of opportunity. it's because while our people and our economy are pushing the boundaries of the 21st century, too many of our leaders and their ideas were stuck in the 20th century. [ applause ] they're busy looking backwards so they do not see how jobs and prosperity today depend on our ability compete in a global economy, and so our leaders put us at a disadvantage by taxing
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and borrowing and regulating like it was 1999. [ applause ] they look for solutions in yesterday so they do not see the good paying modern jobs require different skills and more education in the past so they blindly support an outdated higher education system that is too expensive and too inaccessible too those no need it most, and they have forgotten -- they have forgotten that when america fails to lead it will inevitably follow. [ applause ] so they appease our enemies, betray our allies and betray our military. now look at the turn of the 19th century, a generation of
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americans harnessed the power of the industrial age and they transformed this country into the leading economy in the world. and the 20th century became the american century. well, now the time has come for our generation to lead the way towards a new american century. [ applause ] >> marco! marco! marco! >> if we raeeform our tax code and control spending and modernize our immigration laws and repeal or replace obamacare, if we do thooes things -- [ applause ] if we do these things the american people will create millions of better paying modern jobs. if we create a 21st century system of higher education that provides working americans the
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chance to acquire the skills they need that no longer graduate students with mountains of debt and degrees that do not lead to jobs -- ex [ applause ] and that graduates more students from high school ready to work. then our people will be prepared to seize their opportunities in this new economy. mraus[ applause ] if we remember -- if we remember that the family, not the government, is the most important institution in our society. [ applause ] if we remember that all human life deserves protection of our laws. [ applause ] and if we remember that all parents deserve to choose the education that's right for their children then we will have a strong people and a strong nation.
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[ applause ] and if america once again accepts the mantle of global leader leadership. by abandoning this administration's dangerous concessions to iran and its hostility to israel. [ applause ] by reversing the who will owe ing out of our military, which by giving the men and women the resources, the care, and the gratitude that they deserve. [ applause ] by no longer being passive in the face of chinese and russian aggression. and by ending the near total disregard for the erosion of democracy and human rights
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around the world, especially cuba, venezuela, nicaragua. [ applause ] then if we did these things, then our nation would be safer, our world more stable, and our people more prosperous. these are the things that we must do but this election is not just about what laws are going to pass. this election is a generational choice about what kind of country we will be. now just yesterday a leader from yesterday -- [ booing ] -- began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday. yesterday is over. [ applause ]
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and we're never going back. you see, we americans are proud of our history, but our country has always been about the few future. and before us now is the opportunity to author the greatest chapter yet in the amazing story of america. but we can't do that by going back to the leaders and ideas of the past. we must change the decisions we are making by changing the people who are making them. [ applause ] and so that is why tonight grounded by the lessons of our history but inspired by the promise of our future i announce my candidacy for president of the united states.
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[ applause ] didacy might seem improbable to some watching from abroad. after all, in many countries, the highest office in the land is reserved for the rich and the powerful. i live in an exceptional country. i live in an exceptional country where even the son of a bartenderer andbartend er erand a maid can have the same dreams. i live in an exceptional country where the son of a bartender and a maid can have the same dreams and the same future as those who
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come from power and privilege. i recognize -- i recognize the challenges of this campaign. and i recognize the demands of this office that i seek. but in this endeavor as in all things i find comfort in the ancient command. be strong and courageous. do not tremble or be dismayed for the lord your god, is with you wherever you go. [ applause ] i've heard -- i've heard some suggest that i should step aside and wait my turn. but i cannot. because i believe our very identity is an exceptional nation is at stake and i can make a difference as president.
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[ applause ] i'm humbled by the realization that america -- america doesn't owe me anything. but i have a debt to america i must try to repay. this isn't just a country where i was born. america's literally the place that changed my family's history. i regret that my father did not live to see this day in person. he used to tell me all the time -- he used to tell us us all the time -- [ speaking in spanish ] [ applause ] in this country you will achieve all the things we never could. [ applause ]
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now on the days when i'm tired or discouraged, i remember the sounds of his keys jingling at the front door of our home well past midnight. as he returned from another long day at work. when i was younger, i didn't fully appreciate all that he did for us. but nows as my own children grow older, i more fully understand. you see, my father was grateful for the work he had. that was not the life he wanted for his children. he wanted all the dreams he once had for himself to come true for us. he wanted all the doors are that closed for him to open for me. and so my father stood behind a small portable barn in the back of the room for all those years so that tonight i could stand behind this podium in front of this room and this nation. [ applause ]
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that journey can -- that journey from behind that bar to behind this podium that's the essence of the american dream. and whether we remain a special country will depend on whether that journey is still possible for those who are trying to make it right now. the single mother who works long hours for little pay so her children don't have to struggle the way she has to. the young student who takes two buses before dawn to attend a better school halfway across town town. the workers in our hotel kitchens the landscaping crews in our neighborhoods, the late-night janitorial staff that clean our offices, and even the bartenders who tonight are standing in the back of a room somewhere in america, if their american dreams become impossible we will have just become another country. but if they succeed, this 21st
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century will also be an american sentcentury. [ applause ] this will be the message of my campaign and the purpose of my presidency. and to succeed on this journey, i will need your prayers and your support and ultimately your vote vote. and so tonight i'm asking to you take that first step. my wife and four children are here tonight. [ applause ] the next 19 months had will take me far away from home. i'll miss watching amanda run
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track and daniella play volleyball and anthony play football and dominick play soccer. but i have chosen this course because this election -- this election is about them. theirs is the most important generation. and i'll tell you why. because if we can capture the promise of this new century, they will be the freest and the most prosperous americans that have ever lived. but if we fail they will be the first generation of americans to inherit a country worse off than the one left for their parents. the final verdict on our generation will be written by americans who have not yet been born. let us make sure they record that we made the right choice that in the early years of this century faced with a rapidly changing and uncertain world our generation rose to face the great challenges of our time.
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and because we did, because we did, there was still one place in the world where who you come from does not determine how far you go. [ applause ] because we did. because we did, the american miracle lived on. because we did, our children and theirs lived in a new american century. thank you, god bless you. god bless the united states. thank you. thank you. [ applause ] >> all right, so there he is marco rubio, the 43-year-old senator from florida announcing he wants to be the next president of the united states making his case just under 20 minutes or so maybe 18 or 19 minutes. a carefully prepared speech. he deviate add little bit but not significantly. he's now being joined by his wife. i don't know if his four kids are going to come up there. let's get a little sense of what's going on. a historic moment for marco
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rubio. joining us now gloria borger our chief national correspondent john king anchor of "inside politics" and our senior washington correspondent jeff zelery. it looks like the kids are coming up as well. a nice moment. gloria what do you think? >> i think they're a wonderful, appealing looking family there. i think this was a speech that was clearly devoted to telling americans that it's time for a new generation. he portrayed hillary clinton as yesterday, as he called her, and he also chastised those who say to him, you know, maybe you should step aside. it's not your turn and that is clearly referring to jeb bush. he talked about an america in which government is smaller, there's less regulation. there is tax reform less passive foreign policy more aggressive. talked about modernizing immigration. no surprises here. except for the fact that this is
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somebody who has just come on the national scene, just became a senator five years ago, and is looking like a very attractive presidential candidate that can bridge between the tea party and the establishment in the republican party. >> just a bit younger than another first term senator, barack obama, was when he decided to run for president of the united states john king. >> wolf, and they don't like the xa son if you add the name, but if you look at what obama did, his team does talk about that. barack obama came in challenged the ways of his party, if you will. hillary clinton was supposed to be inevitable. he said, no, it's time for a new generation, time for something different, time for change. the republican party is normally the party where you say it's your turn. and so people say who is the senior republican waiting? they have no front-runner. the democrats are now the reapians. they have hillary clinton. and marco rubio is trying to up-end the apple cart. anybody will tell you, consultants who watch this
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democrats or republicans, as my friend ron fournier said march he co-rubio in the view of most is the best athlete on the field. the question is can he grow? it's like playing in major league baseball. 162 games. can you play every day? can you hit every day? can you perform every day? what's his place in the republican party? he came in on the tea party wave but he was the speaker on the floor of the house. he got out early saying let's reform immigration, give people a pathway to citizenship. the party slapped him back a bit. he was humbled by that. let's see how he performs. if you travel the kuncountry especially to small towns across america where they used to make things the american dream thing, people will say that's corny. you go to small town america, that has great potential. marco rubio has great potential. now we're about to feigned out if he can perform and realize. >> he took a nice little swipe there at hillary clinton, jeff. he said just yesterday a leader from yesterday began a campaign
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for president by promising to take us back to yesterday. then he said yesterday is over. we are never going back. >> we know exactly who he's talking about there. all the republicans in this field will try to distinguish themselves by attacking her and presenting a difference to her. it's far, far too soon to know if he will ever appear on a debate stage with hillary clinton. both primaries have to play out. but if he does this generational argument just the image of that is a very potent argument. now one thing that is -- that may be a problem for him the whole anthem of the republican party is barack obama was too inexperienced to serve in the white house. marco rubio spent more time in the florida legislature but his time in the senate is about the same. no huge accomplishments, a very accomplished smart senator, but that will be his biggest challenge. will america elect a freshman senator one more time? >> let's get some more analysis and bring in our political commentators. anna is a good friend of senator rubio's, but she is a supporter
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of his like lyly opponent, the former florida governor, jeb bush. also joining us peter, contributing editor for "atlantic media." anna what did you think of senator rubio's speech? >> it was exactly what i expected. i expected him to be optimistic, to talk about hi family. i expected him to given the speech of his life. i think the speech was beautiful and it was, frankly, classic marco rubio. his oratory skills are unequalled i will tell you on both sides of the political spectrum. i think he has the best political skills of anybody on either side that's running for this. >> what do you mean by that the best political skills ever? >> retail politicking. he has a family that's cast out of central casting. he has -- his ability to give a speech and engage the audience is amazing. so really his political skills are extraordinary. the question that i think is going to hang over marco rubio and over the other senators that
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are running is do they have the experience? are they old enough? do they have the maturity? do they have what it takes to be the leader of the united states of america, the leader of the free world, to negotiate the treaties? it's very different. having political skills is very different to having the ability to govern and that's, i think, a question that will get answered as we go you through the primary period. >> i know you're good friends with former governor jeb bush. you're a supporter of jeb bush. when marco rubio said he was proud that a son of a bartender like himself, a son of a maid can have the same dreams the same future as those who come from power and privilege, was that a little swipe at jeb bush? >> you know, the media has often interpreted it as such and i spoke to marco about it several months ago when it started getting interpreted that way by the media. it's actually been in his speeches now for a long time,
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far longer than jeb has been considering a run for governor -- for president. i don't think it was a swipe at him. it's something that is part of his narrative, part of his biography and has been part of his political identity in speeches for years and years. >> peter, what did you think of his speech? >> i thought it was very strong? i think he is by far the best orator. the problem he faces is there's only one way to get the republican nomination. he has to run straight over jeb bush because he has to be the establishment candidate. a lot of big donors do like him but bush has come in and sucked up so much oxygen so much money. rubio needs to have bush fall on his face or push him on his face so he can be the establishment candidate. he will not be the conservative candidate. with ted cruz and mike huckabee there are too many people he is pegs ly after rubio's position on immigration who are more appealing to the hard right. rubio has to be the establishment candidate. he can only do it if he goes
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past jeb bush. >> about 20 years age difference. jeb bush about 63 years old. dana bush is thereash is there. give us a sense of what happened. >> reporter: i was in the room during the speech. you never know how it comes across on tv versus how it feels in the room. obviously the momentum was there in terms of the crowd. but at the beginning, look the expectations for marco rubio are extremely high to give a good speech. at the beginning he looked a little bit nervous, i have to say. he looked like oh, my gosh. is this really happening? and then he got his groove on and got more comfortable as it went on. it didn't seem he was on his game at the beginning. the other thing i would note there is i know ana is saying when he talked about the generational differences and the need to go forward and not backwards, he's just talking about hillary clinton. it's impossible not to consider
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the fact that he is running against somebody who was his mentor and it's just the fact of the matter. i was told there are some people in that room who normally would have been for jeb bush but they signed on with marco rubio early because they never thought jeb bush was going to run. it gives you a specific illustration of the difficulty for many republicans here having to choose between the two of them and the one last thing i will say is what i'm told marco rubio has said to jeb bush and said to others about this very real very odd competition between the two of them it's not a competition. it's just two men auditioning for the same role. very interesting to see how they deal with one another as the months go on and when jeb bush gets in and they're on the debate stage whether it will get rough and tumble like we saw with hillary clinton and barack obama. >> gloria we did hear marco rub
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rubio say the country needs major reforms, reducing regulations, controlled spending modernized our immigration laws. he said that repeal and replace obamacare. he laid out an agenda for the domestic -- >> he didn't say what he would do. he laid out the agenda. >> modernize our immigration laws. given the history that he had, once he wanted to allow some sort of, what the critics call amnesty, pathway to citizenship, but then he backed away from it later, that's a big issue in a republican primary. >> it's a huge issue in the republican primary. it's one issue he probably won't fight with jeb bush over because they're pretty much in the same place. the lesson he tells conservatives that he learned is you can't do anything on immigration until you prove that you can control the borders. and that was the great lesson he said. but i do think you know the republican candidates are talking about refeeling and/or replacing obama care. they're not telling what you they're going to replace obama care with because it's very hard political willy to take
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something away from people that they already have part of which they already like. and i think, you know this is going to be a problem for all of these republican candidates. can i say one thing about experience because we were talking about experience here. i was lacking inglooking at some polling today. 55% of republicans say they want experience more than vision. that's a reaction against the president, but the kind of experience they want is not legislative. it's executive. so that speaks very well for a governor running for the presidency. >> and to peter's point earlier, that's a very smart point. you look at this republican field and you're going to have santorum who has run before in iowa huckabee over there. you know you'll have ted cruz over there. they've extended the republican calendar in a way that early on everyone thought was smart. a lot of establishment people are saying, wait a minute, are we going to have a conservative still in the race when we go to the primary in mississippi, louisiana, alabama? for marco rubio, he does impress
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the donors in private. he's made a great impression on the romney people. can he stay in the race and execute himself as a politician on the stage but where is his place? dana says he doesn't want to compete with jeb bush. he will have to stand on a debate stage in iowa or new hampshire early on and win. he's going to have to win somewhere. >> his success is built on the crumbling of jeb bush or the conservatives not accepting him as a candidate. donors i am told that jeb bush has locked up the bush donors. there's a whole new class of people who have done very well. the younger millionaires and that's who he is going after. i was e-mail inging with one about an hour ago in the crowd and he said so many people here, big donors you've never seen them before in politics. that's who he is going after. >> scott walker is a governor in that same space that marco rubio wants. >> because he's in his early to mid-40s as well. peter beinart, a major portion dealt with security.
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he went after president obama and certainly hillary clinton, the former secretary of state, by saying the u.s. has made dangerous concessions to iran and has shown hostility to israel. he went on to say they have total disregard for the erosion of democracy and human rights around the world. then he added this is not in the advanced text but he add theed the words in cuba venezuela and nicaragua. what did you think of the points he was trying to make when it came to national security and foreign policy? >> that played well with republican vote ertz and donors. factually they're pretty much absurd. the idea the u.s. which gives israel $3 billion and under this administration has given more high-tech military equipment than under any other president is showing hostility is ridiculous. when it comes to not supporting freedom in in iran and cuba it's worth noting the people in cuba and "the washington post" did an interesting poll about this the people of cuba and iran are wild about the obama outreach policies because they know they offer the best chance for them in fact to see a
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change in their regime. >> ana navarro, what did you think of his statement on national security? >> first, it's very typical of marco. he is on the foreign relations committee in the senate. he's the chairman of the western hemisphere subcommittee. cuba, venezuela, nicaragua are three important voting groups here in south florida. i think he not only has worked on that a lot in the senate he also knows right there he's stoking the hometown crowd, and there is going to be a fight, i think, for the hometown vote and, you know you all are going to be watching we're all going to be watching. i think there is going to be a lot of drama coming in this race. i don't think that marco intend -- now intent is one thing and execution is another. but right now i don't think that either marco or jeb are seeing this as a competition between the two of them. i saw jeb bush two days ago and i had an exchange with marco two days ago. you know these two guys are
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friends and they like each other. they sat next to each other on a plane coming back from nashville where they were both at the nra conference on friday. and, in fact jeb commented to me that marco had been working on his speech while sitting next to him and he they joked and they talked the entire flight. so there is a genuine relationship there. i think it's true. i think marco and a lot of people did not expect jeb to run, and, you know this is developing and it's hard for a lot of us emotionally tearing and it's emotionally difficult for a lot of us who are very good friends of both of them. >> florida, as you know john is a key battleground state. if marco rubio or jeb bush can carry florida, that's a major problem potentially for the democratic nominee. let's say it's hillary clinton. >> that's one of the reasons, look, one of the reasons if you talk to republican strategists and donors they look at rubio and bush of the field as they look at it now. most republican strategists will
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tell you one of them will be as they look today the best general election candidate. if you look at the map of what has happened in the last six presidential elections. if the democrats win the same as they've won the last six elections, 242. you win florida and you are the president of the united states. all you need is florida. they have to take florida off the map, get ohio back put new mexico and nevada in play. two states where latinos matter in addition to florida. virginia is a competitive state now and the latino population is growing there. there are other demographics there as well. looking at the map that's why the republicans say you want a bush or rubio, someone who can change the demographic dynamic. scott walker will make the case i can win. this is opening week. imagine the florida primary ana just laid out. if somehow raub yoe and bush both make it to floorrida, which means they have to survive iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and then you have a boom in florida, i mean, if the winner
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of that would be viewed as the heavyweight. if you had a rubio versus us bush in florida, jeb hasn't run in 12 years. >> they're both bilingual, speak spanish fluently they can campaign for the spanish vote which is significant in florida and many other states around the country. hold on, ana. hold on one second. >> they are bi-cultural and do speak spanish at home to their children and i think that ana is being very diplomatic here about the relationship between rubio and jeb bush. >> all the senators liked each other in 2008, right, until they didn't. >> this is shakespearean in a way. bush was rubio's mentor took him under his wing thought he was the most talented young politician he had seen in decades. and i think when he decided to run, he expected rubio he to kind of say, okay i'm going to wait my turn. and in talking to a senior party operative in the state today, he said to me deference is not one
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of marcho rubio's great qualities, that he wasn't going to wait for jeb bush because when he didn't wait to run for the senate in 2010 nobody thought he could win, he actually won. >> let me let ana make her point. go ahead, ana. >> they're not just bilingual, they are bi-cultural. gloria a lot of what you're saying it true. i would tell you that in 2010 a lot of the florida republicans, a lot of the florida heavyweights were with charlie crist at the beginning. not me. i was with marco rubio from day one. but they were with charlie crist not because they liked charlie crist, not because they thought he was a brilliant, strategic person not because they thought he was a great candidate, but because they thought he could keep the seat this time around it's way different. it's an entirely different animal. people are torn between a jeb bush who was a terrific governor and who so many of us have a lifelong friendship and loyalty to. and marco rubio has been a star
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who defeated charlie crist who was, frankly, a rope around our next in the republican party here and who none of us really liked but we're stuck with. it's a very difficult position for a lot of us here in florida. >> for the republicans in the race it's not just a jeb and marco rubio, rand paul scott walker -- >> thank god! >> very quickly, jeff the fact that jeb bush marco rubio can speak spanish potentially that's a bonanza for them, right? >> it's a bonanza in the general election, not as much so in the pray mare i don't believe. key point if they both get to that florida primary race in march, a the lot of gas in the tank has to happen january and february. >> we've a lot to assess and discuss. stand by everyone. there's other news we're following as well. just breaking now, a deputy charged in another deadly shooting caught on video. how could he mistake an actual gun for a stun gun? and stand by for all the new developments of the south carolina police shooting including another new video
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on a stunning indent onboard a commercial airplane. our aviation correspondent renee marsh is standing by at reagan national airport here in the washington, d.c. area. tell us what you know. >> reporter: well wolf this is all just coming in now but we have confirmed with alaska airlines that this aircraft alaska airlines flight 448 from los angeles going to los angeles, i should say, from seattle, was forced to make an emergency landing after screams and banging was hurt coming from the lower part of the aircraft. the captain immediately returned to seattle for an emergency landing. we should tell you the aircraft was in the air for about 14 minutes. once it landed the discovery was made a ramp agent was found inside of a cargo hold. we can tell you at this point that that person has been transported to the hospital, but according to the airport this individual was able to walk out
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of the cargo hold. so it appears this person will be okay, but still taken to the hospital as a precautionary measure. we should mention that this specific area of the aircraft where this person was during the flight it is pressurized and it is temperature controlled, so that is good news for that individual, but we do know from the airline they say that they are investigating. they are actively investigating the matter because the big question at this hour how is it this ramp agent was in the cargo hold of this flight and this plane was in the air for 14 whole minutes and no one knew this before takeoff? so that is actively under investigation, wolf. the headline this flight was forced to make an emergency landing after it was discovered that a ramp agent was inside of the cargo hold. >> it's a pretty extraordinary development, isn't it? it doesn't happen that often. i don't remember a time it has happened do you? >> reporter: no i don't recall reporting on such a thing.
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the real question is going to be for both the airport as well as the staff on the ground there who are in charge of loading the luggage how did this misstep exactly happen? usually there's more than one person on the ground as you know loading that luggage into the belly of the plane. so how is that wheels were up and takeoff happened and no one realized somebody was inside? thankfully wolf the section of this plane, like we said pressurized and regular temperature, otherwise this story could have ended a lot differently. >> certainly could have. renee, thank you very much. re rene marsh over at reagan national airport.
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breaking news. new video has just come out of the former south carolina police officer michael slager. it shows him using a taser on a motorist during a traffic stop. slager is the same officer who is charged with murder for the shooting death of walter scott. cnn's brian todd has more on what is going on. what is the latest you're learning brian? >> tonight officer michael slager and the north charleston police are being sued over another incident as you mentioned, involving slager and the use of force. julius wilson is the man's name. he and his lawyer suing them for civil rights violation, suing slager suing the north charleston police. this stems from a traffic stop in north charleston in august of last year. this is the dash cam video of that traffic stop. julius wilson is pulled over by another officer. the dash cam video shows that officer talking to wilson. the officer goes to his own vehicle, comes back tells wilson he is driving with a suspended license and he needs to get out of the car that he is taking him to jail. slager, the second guy there,
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the second policeman there, approaches the scene. here is what happens next. >> let's go. >> i got this. >> okay, let's go. step out. you got a suspension so you're going to go to jail. >> no i'm not. no i'm not. officer, officer, officer. >> all right, here is the deal. >> officer. >> i've asked you nicely. >> all, y'all -- i'm asking y'all. >> i'm asking you to step out of the car, sir. i'm asking you nicely. please step out of the car. if you don't step out of the car, i'm going to assist you out of the car. you're under arrest. please step out of the car. >> officer. >> step out of the car. step out of the car. >> what am i being under arrest for, officer?
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>> step out of the car! step out of the car! get out of the car! >> officer -- >> get out of the car. get out of the car. >> back up i'm okay. back up i'm okay. >> oh [ bleep ]. >> turn over! turn over or you're going to get hit again. >> julius wilson and his attorney claim he was tased after he was put into submission. the video, at least at the outset seems to support that. we reached out to the north charleston police and to slager's attorney for response to this lawsuit, to that incident. we have not heard back wolf. >> brian todd thanks very much. tom fuentes, what do you make of this? >> i wasn't sure i could see exactly when the tasing started in that. but what i see is yet another
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example of somebody that resists arrest doesn't comply with the police forces them to force him out of the car and place hands on him. and nothing good is going to come of that. but when you have officers wrestling with somebody on the ground it's very difficult to bend a person's arms back behind him to handcuff him. i think that's why they wanted to tase him to stun him for a second so they could do that. i couldn't tell exactly when that tasing happened. but yet again someone fails to comply a lawful order to get out and be taken into custody. bad things happen. >> and joey jackson is joining us or criminal defense attorney hln legal analyst. you heard the police officer say we're asking you nice please come out of the car. he refuses to come out of the car. and we all saw what happened afterwards. what is your analysis? >> it's always important to comply now and grieve later. however, the critical point in this in this lawsuit will be when the force of the taser was applied. was it applied when the actual suspect was subdued? in the event, as it appeared to show, that it was applied when he was subdued, then the
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argument is it's a misapplication of force. if someone is under control, then you don't apply. however, i would certainly assert that under no circumstances on the street should people be taking matters into their own hands. that being said use a taser when it's appropriate and necessary, not when someone is defenseless and otherwise not posing a danger at that specific time. that's going to be the question wolf. >> i think he makes a good point. >> well i can tell you from personal experience wolf until the handcuffs are on both wrists, a person is not subdued while they're laying on the ground still resisting, still wrestling. they can spin around they can do many bad things. i don't know. that's why until we find out in more detail when exactly the taser was applied, we can't tell when he was subdued. >> i think you'll agree joey it's a whole new world out there with all the dash cam video, the body camera video the cell phone video. it's a whole new world out there for police officers and for the public.
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>> it absolutely is wolf. but a bottom line i do believe the more body cams the more dash cams the better because you have transparency. and if a person knows that they're being video'd, they'll be on their best behavior. and certainly an officer will be on their best behavior as well. i think it assists all parties involved. >> thanks very much. cnn is very excited to debut a new series that looks at a couple's quest to become marijuana moguls. here is an exclusive first look at the new trailer. >> they're parasites. they've got no contribution to this society. they're preying on our community and our kids. and it's going to end badly. >> we've got exactly $100,000 in cash in the back of this car. i bet there is guys right there in that prison for doing just what we're about to do. >> i want the breckenridge cannabis club to be a household name. >> this is us pioneering a new industry. >> he is going after every resort town in colorado. his plan is brilliant. ♪
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>> this is a big operation now. >> we are not the amsterdam of the rockies. we're breckenridge. >> absolutely unbelievable to us this has happened so quickly. >> that's when the town erupted. >> all hell can break loose. >> i think we have an image to protect. >> the powerful elite has definitely put the pressure on. >> everyone is playing everyone. >> they're going have a target painted on their back. >> that is a real threat. >> there is $2 billion to be had next year. i plan to take more than my fair share. "high profits." the series premiers sunday night at 10:00. >> you're going to want to watch it. once again, "high profits" debuts this coming sunday night, 10:00 p.m. eastern. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." remember you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me@wolfblitzer. you can tweet@cnnit isroom. we love when your watching us live. you can always dvr us. lots of news as you saw
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happening today, including making it official. marco rubio announcing he wants to be the next president of the united states. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight, breaking news just moments ago. familiar senator marco rubio announcing he is running for president. on the heels of hillary and jeb bush does he stand a chance? plus more breaking news. manslaughter. that's the charge against a white police officer who killed a black suspect, this time in oklahoma. he says he mistook his gun for a taser, and we do have the video. and new audio from the south carolina shooting revealing what the officer said in the moments after the shooting, and what made him laugh. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the
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