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kicking off her first campaign event in iowa. meanwhile, senator marco rubio who could have to vote on iran legislation jumping in to a crowding gop field. we have every angle covered only the way cnn can. we begin with michelle at the white house. >> reporter: congress is close to acting in a way that could substantially change a nuclear deal with iran or derail it entirely. today, the senate foreign relations committee could vote on this bill that would give congress an up or down vote could prevent the president from removing sanctions imposed by congress while congress considers this others could add other provisions. senate is close to a veto-proof majority now is the administration's time to try to convince members of congress otherwise. they held a closed door classified briefing with the house. they met with american jewish leaders today. a classified briefing with the senate. the white house basically says they need two things time and space to fully hammer out the details of a deal without
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congress acting at least not for now. this has turned into a real battle though. the white house saying that republicans are mired and rigid partisanship. keep in mind some of those who want congress to have a vote are democrats. and those are the votes the white house is going to be fighting for now. >> all right, michelle. later this morning we're going to talk to senator bob corker about the iran bill. he has co-authored. and congressman jim himes. stay tuned for that. if you were president what would you do about iran? the expanded field of candidates which is growing by the day they're going to have to answer this. hillary clinton will get her chance today at her first campaign event in iowa. that's where we find brianna keilar live in cedar rapids with more. what do you have brianna. >> reporter: hi chris. we wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't talk about it because we're expecting her to do a lot more listening than talking.
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hillary clinton wakes up here in iowa this morning. i'm in cedar rapids where her first event will be. this is in eastern iowa. key not just in the caucuses but also in the general election this part of iowa for democrats. she comes here on this road trip sort of a unique start to her campaign with an unexpected appearance yesterday at a chipotle in ohio. in case you're wondering a chicken burr chicken but ri toe bowl. we're not privy to these sightings. she pops as she travels from new york to iowa in what she's dubbed her scooby van. they're finding reference to the van she used in 2000 when she was running for senate and they're making the point she's recycling her ideas for her van here. this is part of her show of humility here in iowa. part of her message that this
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campaign isn't about her, it's about everyday americans. expect to hear that phrase a lot. >> all right, brianna, thanks so much for that. in the meantime senator marco rubio enters a crowded field of republican candidates saying it's time for the party's next generation of leaders to move the nation forward. the florida senator wasting no time taking direct aim at hillary clinton at his announcement speech. cnn's chief congressional correspondent dana bash live in miami, the site of that historic speech last night. hi dana. >> reporter: hi there. what i'm about to say is certainly not what marco rubio was going for. but in many ways being in that room it was reminiscent of barack obama eight years ago when he was running first against hillary clinton and then against john mccain. a first-term senator talking about hope and change and the need to move to a new generation. 43-year-old marco rubio tried to
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turn his youth and relative inexperience compared to older candidates into a plus. >> this election is not just about what laws are going to pass. this election is a generational choice about what kind of country we will be. >> reporter: it's a theme the florida republican returned to time and again drawing a contrast with democratic front runner hillary clinton. >> just yesterday a leader from yesterday -- began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday. >> reporter: but rubio is also drawing a contrast with a republican name from the past jeb bush florida's former governor and rubio's long-time mentor. some mutual friends are upset rubio isn't waiting his turn which he addressed head-on. >> i've heard some suggest that i should step aside and wait my turn.
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but i cannot. >> reporter: in an interview with abc news rubio said his candidacy should not be seen as an insult to bush. >> i'm not running against jeb bush. i hope he's not running against me. we are competing for the same job. >> reporter: cnn has told rubio told bush he's running because no one else has the story to tell he does. a son of cuban immigrants with a palpable sense of the american dream, which shaves his hawkish world view and small government low taxes conservative ideals. >> i live in an exceptional country where the son of a bartender and maid can have the same dreams and same future as those who come from power and privilege. >> reporter: still, rubio has to overcome some gop concerns that his government experience is similar to barack obama's. >> i don't pay much attention to the pundits claiming i need more experience. >> reporter: when he became president. now, last week chris, when rand paul announced, he barn stormed all of the early primary states.
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that's not what marco rubio is going to do. today, he is heading back to washington because his aides say one of his calling cards is his foreign policy. he's on the foreign relations committee, so they say he needs to be in the senate for a big hearing today on the iran deal chris. >> all right, dana, let's discuss. cnn political analyst mr. john avlon and republican consultant margaret hoover. so first, who gives a thumbs up to what marco rubio did last night? three thumbs up among two people. always good. why impressed? >> more than any other candidate on the republican side of the aisle marco rubio has it. he has that ability to connect with people to speak in an aspirational way that is positive and affirmative authentically and that can actually enroll individuals into his world view as opposed to being anti-hillary anti-democrat, anti-obama negative. he's offering an alternative
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that is affirmative and can capture the imagination of people because he speaks eloquently and authentically. >> it as you put it is worth 7% in the polls for marco rubio. i know what you're going to tell me it's because it's early, he's going to be out there, he's not known, campaigning. but he's got real challenges here just because of who is in this field. >> he does have challenges. first of all, none of this is a cake walk. the person who is the presumptive nominee is never going to actually end up getting it. i mean maybe jeb bush does but hillary clinton was the presumptive nominee eight years ago. what i've learned in my experience with presidential campaigns and i've been on two of them is that the thing that matters the most is whether somebody has a fire in the belly to actually win. and what you saw with marco rubio is that he actually cares and wants to do it. john mccain was also down and out in 2007. remember he had no money and no way of getting there and he got there. i've worked for candidates that don't have it when they were going to be the presumptive nominee. >> fire in the belly only gets you so far because you look at
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the fact a lot of people were saying last night's speech was awfully familiar to somebody we saw with a lot of hope in 2008. that's going to frustrate a lot of people in the gop. somebody with more than just a narrative but some experience. >> that experience is kind of lacking in this field. first of all, let's be real. right now it's laden with first-term senators. what's significant about that speech is first of all a great speech. second of all, the contrast the generational change call is very powerful both as a diss to hillary clinton and jeb bush. finally, it's the personal narrative. it's the biography that makes relatable in america that's increasingly diverse. you're running as a candidate of generational change but you oppose marriage equality. that's tough. if you're running as a candidate of change but say climate change is not manmade and you're not a scientist, that's a tough sell. so there are a couple hurdles there. incredibly hawkish on foreign policy that will make him popular in the gop.
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he is going to be a player he's going to be a contender. a huge natural talent. >> j.b. turns to the page with the poll numbers, it is early. but he's not known. he got known for the wrong reason when it came to his rebuttal when he did the reach and grab thing. he's recovered nicely from that. we were talking before the show this was a polished speech last night. i think he sounded as good or better than senator obama did in 2008. we interviewed him back then. hoe certainly has a better feel of the field. but on the numbers he's not doing that well. doesn't that matter? >> right now, the person leading the field is only at 16%. so you're talking 7% is within striking distance. to the exat the present time this is all really low base numbers compared to the democratic field where hillary leads by -- you think he'd be better than ben carson that's a fair point. >> he hasn't been working the circuit like ben carson has. he didn't go to many of the
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early cattle calls because he has a job. scott walker is well-known because he had essentially a national campaign when he was fighting off the unions. he got to know all of the national donors. marco rubio's only sort of made that much progress with national donors really because he was an insurgent tea party candidate. >> joe, you brought up a point, generational message chrks is a good word when i say it correctly, the metszage plays not just in the general election but in the primary. do we have that sound bite when he said yesterday's over from the speech yesterday? i thought that was sort of the strongest moment from the event. let's play that. >> a leader from yesterday began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday. yesterday is over. >> i mean, that's a strong line there. he was specifically talking about hillary clinton, but not
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really just about hillary clinton. you put in the name jeb bush every time he says hillary and he makes the same argument. that could be effective in a primary. >> and he referred to political dynasties. >> yeah. >> that's not about -- that's hillary clinton as much as it jeb bush. i think what's also interesting, sorry to cut you off. >> happens all the time. >> it's called dinner. >> he's also answering these -- he answers hillary in other ways. she wants to represent the middle class, going on a listening tour of the middle class in iowa but he told a beautiful story about how he actually is from the middle class. >> son of a bartender and son of a maid. >> the historic argument for hillary clinton being something larger than yourself he has that too. first hispanic family in the white house, that's pretty historic. >> can i ask quickly about the jeb bush thing. he's been a mentor to marco rubio. how do they navigate this going forward? >> that is going to be one of the most fascinateing relationships to watch. they are tight. rubio was very much mentored
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into power in tallahassee and florida state government by jeb bush. they apparently flew back from the nra convention together. so you're going to see, i mean, whether you want to call it a frenemy status there's going to be very complicated relations. not as negative as one would say sum on the surface. >> where's the -- even though jeb's not in office? >> he's in florida resident. >> one has to move to washington. >> cheney had to move from texas back to wyoming back in 2000. >> but these guys -- it would be very dicey for them to do that. >> marco rubio has been elected statewide way more than jeb bush has. he's the more recent sort of florida candidate. some people don't remember when jeb bush was governor. >> he might not be ready for president, 43 same age as jfk, but he's the democrats worst case scenario. >> that's his best poll number is against hillary by the way, 53-43. his challenge, his next step is
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i'm from the middle class, this is who i am. he's going to have to show it in his policy positions because it's not exactly a complete match right now. >> it will be fascinating though. >> great conversation. >> great to have you here. we have some new audio emerging from immediately after the south carolina police shooting that left walter scott dead. all this developing as scott's passenger during that traffic stop that started it all breaks his silence. cnn's nic valencia is live with the latest. >> reporter: good morning. for the first time publicly we're hearing from the so-called mystery passenger in the car with walter scott leading up to his shooting death. the statement obtained by abc news pierre fulton said "walter was a dear friend and i miss him every day. over the past five years he helped me to become a better man and showed the value of hard work. i'll never know why he ran, but i know he didn't deserve to die." meanwhile audio has emerged in
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the aftermath. >> when you get home probably be a good idea to kind of jot down your thoughts of what happened. and then when the adrenaline quits pumping and stuff -- >> it's pumping. hey, hey, everything's okay okay? i just shot somebody. yeah. everything's okay. >> reporter: now perhaps shedding more light into the past history of officer slager 2014 dash cam video from an alleged victim who says slager used excessive force. he's filed a lawsuit as of friday against the city of north charleston as well as officer slager saying the story of walter scott emboldened him to come forward. we've reached out to the city of north charleston as well as officer slager's attorney but yet to hear back. >> meanwhile in tulsa, oklahoma the deadly police involved shooting of an unarmed suspect is raising major questions this morning. robert bates now charged with manslaughter after his body camera captured the moment he fatally shol eric harris.
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many are asking and wondering how a volunteer demty could mistake a gun for a taser. bates is an insurance company ceo who has donated equipment to the police force. four former blackwater security guards finally sentenced for killing more than a dozen unarmed iraqis in 2007. three of the defendants got 30 years, the other got life. all four of the former contractors claim they acted in self-defense. they promise to appeal what they're quoting as a perversion of justice. alaska airlines jet forced to make an emergency landing after the pilot heard unusual banging from the plane's cargo hold shortly after takeoff. he made a shocking discovery upon landing. cnn aviation reporter renee marsh live at reagan national airport with more on this. absolutely bizarre story. >> reporter: well john you are right. stunning discovery indeed. for 14 minutes as this plane was in the air this man was trapped inside of the cargo hold of the passenger plane banging and
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screaming hoping to get someone's attention. he eventually did. >> i think we have a noise from the base compartment. >> reporter: a frightening and unexpected disturbance onboard alaska airlines flight 448 monday afternoon. the pilot telling the control tower he hears someone screaming and banging inside the cargo hold. >> could be a person in there, so we're going to have to come back around. >> reporter: turns out the ramp agent handling the luggage for the flight fell asleep in the cargo hold. >> all of a sudden we hear some banging right underneath our feet. >> reporter: in this cell phone video obtained by cnn affiliate kiro a passenger says you can hear the ramp agent's desperate knocks. >> two of us thought something was stuck in the wheel because that's kind of the sound of it. then we started hearing voices underneath us and pounding significantly louder and louder. >> reporter: the plane in the air for 14 minutes before the
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captain declared an emergency landing. another passenger says that an air marshal onboard kept the panicked ramp agent calm. >> at some point the marshal kind of made himself known. he started banging back and he yelled really loud and said we're getting ready to land hold onto something. >> reporter: the flight carrying 176 passengers and crew en route to los angeles from seattle. on the tarmac the employee who was part of a four-person ramp team could be seen sliding out of the alaska airlines flight cargo area. he was taken to the hospital as a precaution and later discharged. >> well the saving grace here that portion of the aircraft is pressurized as well as temperature controlled likely why this person was able to walk off without any issues. we do know that alaska airlines they say they are actively investigating. again, 14 minutes trapped inside
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that cargo hold must have been the longest 14 minutes of his life. back to you guys. >> i have so many questions about how one falls -- i have taken some naps in some places but that's not my first choice ever. ever. >> he's lucky he got a temperature and pressure controlled cargo cabin. >> there's got to be more to the story. >> i wonder if the 14-minute nap was satisfying? >> i'm thinking it wasn't. >> you don't exactly examine your life in 14 minute increments. ahead, how can a volunteer deputy mistake his handgun for a taser? that man now facing manslaughter charges in the death of an unarmed black man in oklahoma. there are new concerns about the growing number of excessive force cases at the hands of police. marco rubio says yesterday is over except when it comes to republicans attacking hillary clinton. private e-mail servers, the benghazi attack the candidate's past is being brought into sharp focus. is there there there? we'll examine next. let's take a look at your credit. >>i know i have a 786 fico score,
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excessive force by police are igniting the debate for police reform in tulsa. a reserve deputy is facing manslaughter charges after shooting and killing a man after a chase. perhaps the larger issue, why was this reserve duty by all measures not a member of the force allowed on an undercover operation? and in south carolina the passenger in walter scott's car before he was gunned down has been identified and is now speaking out. he says his friend did not deserve to die. we're talking to the president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives and also a member of the president's task force on 21st century policing. just the man to talk to about this. good to see you, cedric. >> good morning. how are you, michaela? >> i'm doing well. this is another situation we got to look at and turn over. we know that one of robert bates, the deputy in tulsa, he was on -- the attorney was on cnn last night and asked about the deputy the reserve deputy's qualifications. i want to play this sound and get your reaction on the other
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end. >> okay. >> mr. bates is a former tulsa police officer. he's certified highly trained in addition to being cleat certified has been through hundreds of hours of training and certainly would have the training to equip him and to qualify him for the position he held that day. but he's been out on a number of missions usually as a containment officer or person bringing equipment or as a scribe. >> so i want to impact this a little bit. i understand that cleat is the council on law enforcement, education and training. basically an agency that regulates and trains and licenses private security in the state of oklahoma. and they only get something like 97 hours of training. in your estimation cedric, is that enough for a reserve deputy to be involved in an undercover sting operation? >> well most law enforcement officials across the country such as myself will probably tell you no. >> okay. >> however, that is a decision that particular sheriff's
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department felt comfortable with. and of course they're going to need to answer for whatever training he may or may not have had. that's not, of course i think for any of us to judge. they have their own laws and regulations there within their state. however, i think in light of everything that we see going on in the country and particularly when we talk about training we all are talking about more training not less training. we also have to take into account, and you've heard this before as well when you start talking about undercover operations such as that certainly can turn very dangerous very quickly. >> yeah sure. >> you certainly have to have people who are very well trained. >> well, you've talked about, cedric on our air about how training training training look at how firefighters do it they train on procedures over and over again so in the thick of it when stress happens you fall back on that training. if you've only got 97 hours, how
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are you going to be able to tell the difference between a taser and a gun? >> well it's not so much the hours, michaela as much as it is i think here again the overall training the familiarity with your weaponry and where it is located on your hip, on your gun belt. but in a stressful situation of course i was not there. we weren't there. >> right. >> we don't know the intensity of what the experience in all fairness to them. however, when you have an event such as this occur and someone loses their life, when you were bend intending to use one particular weapon and using something far more deadly it certainly casts a great deal of question around training and procedure. >> makes you wonder why he was there in the first place. i want to pivot a little bit here to the south carolina incident. officer michael slager we understand there's new video coming up from an incident where he was involved in a stop where he tases a suspect who is already subdued.
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that man is now filing a lawsuit against slager and the other officers involved accusing them of forcibly pulling him out of the vehicle and restraining him. you see this video, do you think it warrants further investigation? or are you concerned that maybe this is just piling on? >> well it very well could be piling on. it could be somewhat opportunistic, but also is well too i think in light of this officer his involvement in what we saw occur on that day in the loss of that gentleman's life certainly does create some pause. so anything that that officer that has been involved in in the past is now going to be held and be seen as very suspicious. even though you have to separate each one of these incidents from each other. >> yes. >> it does create some pause. and american public want to know more answers. and i think as this investigation continues to evolve more and more information will be revealed as it relates -- >> you make a very good point. it is very important not to sort of paint with a broad brush. >> absolutely.
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>> that is a challenge. and i know you and black law enforcement look to find that balance and strike that balance. how we take these claims seriously of excessive force, but then also entrust in our men and women in uniform. >> well absolutely. you know regardless of who the victims are, whether they're black or white we can go to the san bernardino case for example where you had a white victim there, when we have abuse it doesn't matter who commits it. the fact of the matter is we have to take a look at ourselves, we have to look at our training we got to look at supervision and accountability. there are a great number of men and women in this country who do this job very well every day. >> absolutely. >> it's that few that we have to separate out, michaela and make sure that they're dealt with appropriately either through training discipline termination or through court action. whatever the case may have to be. but we have to look at each one of these cases very separate from each other. >> and that's an important thing to do. we appreciate you reminding us of that. we try to stay true to that as
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well. cedric alexander, always a pleasure. >> thank you, michaela. >> let us know what you think about these excessive forces cases. thanks michaela. she is the only democrat to declare so far, hillary clinton of course. but besides the scooby van breaking down somewhere in eastern iowa, what are the biggest obstacles that stand in her way? joe biden? martin o'malley? or tbd? stay with us. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals antioxidants and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition in charge™. ♪ if you're looking for a car that drives you... ...and takes the wheel right from your very hands... ...this isn't that car.
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the music, the graphics means it's happening. hillary clinton waking up in iowa this morning ready to hit the ground running in her presidential campaign. she has her first official event today. despite being the overwhelming favorite in the democratic field, remember she is the only one in that field right now, does she have obstacles that stand in her way? what about those memories of 2008 when that front-runner status simply evaporated? joined this morning by "new york
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times" correspondent patrick hely, great to have you here. >> great to be here john. >> talk about the number of things she has between her and the nomination right now, or perhaps her and the presidency right now is more accurate because of no one else in race. let's talk about the most recent kerfuffle, the fact she used her personal e-mail account when she was at the state department. how big a deal do you think that will be? >> it justin vieted all the questions to come back about trustworthyiness and secretiveness. played into this long standing idea that the clintons are different than us above and operating by their own rules. the problem i don't think so much she's going to go to iowa and people are going to be saying the e-mail server that's what i care the most about. it's more there's going to be this level of discomfort that people are going to have a tough time getting over. that's why she's going to do these small events to look people in the eye as much as possible. because when you do that you think maybe she doesn't have that much to hide.
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>> it's not about the e-mail. people don't care about e-mail. did the news conference she gave at the united nations to answer the questions did that fix the problem? >> i don't think so. the people who are going to ask those questions are just going to keep asking them. >> what about another issue that really became a very very big deal when she was secretary of state and still is benghazi. she could be testifying -- a presidential candidate, major candidate, testifying before a congressional committee in the next month and a half. >> you know how the republicans are, they're not going to let this go away. this is an issue they can be putting to her in terms of her record at the state department her credibility, her leadership skills. she clearly wants to run in part on her foreign policy record. the thing that will be interesting will this become the issue that defines her state department tenure? will people be saying well what else did you do? did you have a big accomplishment to set off against this dizsasterdisaster? >> we'll get to that in a second. what about the idea when she testifies as she did already once before congress could that
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backfire against republicans? could democrats rally around hillary clinton when they see her facing harsh questions in a congressional committee? >> that's the thing, john. whenever she is seen as being under attack too much whenever she's being seen as being beaten up too much or held to a double standard sort of in the public perception i think her likability goes up. i think people who may have mixed feelings about her start to say, well wait a minute is this sort of going too far? and they kind of like the fighter hillary. the degree to which the republicans can bring out the overconfident overconfident. >> we talked about the state department record. we talked about benghazi. foreign policy was seen as a strength of hillary clinton up until maybe the last few months when so much of this administration's foreign policy has been thrown into chaos. is this going to be a problem for her? >> absolutely. it's going to hover over her. she's still going to be
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remembered as obama's secretary of state. if john kerry started striking like major deals, major accomplish ms he's going to be the successful secretary of state. she's going to be remembered for visiting 112 countries but not these deals. then it becomes a question of where were her instincts on a crisis point like benghazi. what else did she manage to do? the thing about her she wants to pivot to the domestic policy side. she doesn't think people are going to vote for or against her based on whether president obama gets an iran deal. i don't think it's about that. i think in the short-term about galvanizing, energizing democrats by being seen as a different kind of hillary. >> we've gone down this list right now and it's not until we're deep into number four where we actually talk about other possible democratic candidates. that's martin o'malley former governor of maryland. this guy is vice president, sitting democratic vice president joe biden.
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is there another possibility? >> it seems unlikely. they want to run. john kerry probably wants to run as you remember 2004 that was a very tough loss for him. i think the thing isn't so much someone there who can outraise hillary, who can beat her consistently in caucuses and primaries, can someone really bruise her, really damage her in a way when she goes into a general election where shoost weaker. that seems a little unclear. it's possible if they can sort of reinforce people's misgivings about her, but it seems more likely that the bruising is the concern more than we're going to lose pennsylvania to sanders. >> martin o'malley wants to be seen as a viable alternative if something unforeseen happens. that's why he's out there right now. this guy joe biden here you know i think probably not likely to get in. patrick healy, great to have you here on "new day." chris. helpful segment, j.b.
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breaking just moments ago, police have captured the student suspected in a fatal shooting in north carolina. 20-year-old kenneth stansell was found sleeping on the beach in daytona city florida. authorities say he shot and killed long-time school employee ron lane who ran the campus print shop. he was a work-study student who reported to lane. we will get more information about why this happened. >> really interesting. all right, the suspect who endured a vicious breakdown by san bernardino police after a three-hour pursuit is now speaking out. francis pusok tells a local station he thought he was being beaten to death. the fbi's conducting a civil rights inquiry and ten deputies are now on administrative leave. new audio is emerging from right after the south carolina police shooting that killed walter scott. in one recording michael slager
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the big days just keep coming now as the race for president is real. hillary clinton announced now she's getting ready for the first event that will no doubt be a bruising campaign. she's already under fire from republicans including marco rubio. now, he didn't trash her in his announcement. it was about him and in fairness a more affirmative vision than many might have expected. but he did take his aim at her and others in the field. where is the power on this day? former adviser to -- and republican strategist take us through it. can you say in the interest of balance you were impressed with marco rubio last night? >> no. i can't say that. >> why? >> i think it looked a little amateur amateurish. i think it looked a little untested. that's how it struck me. >> a big class of haterade.
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>> i don't hate him. >> he's being praised for this morning for hitting on affirmative themes for putting out his best foot forward. what did you see in it? >> i think marco rubio and his team they have as good a snapshot as there is of this american electorate. they want somebody who is new and will be a visionary. if you look at the speech he gave it was as you said chris, it was very affirmative, it was very aspirational. spoke to a lot of things people want to hear about who's going to bring the kind of change to washington that's needed if we're going to move into the future. and he did, he made a very sharp contrast i think not only with the last what will have been the last eight years of president obama, but he's also drew a contrast with hillary clinton and being able to be an agent for the future. and i think that was also a slight implied contrast with one of his main rivals in the republican nomination which would have been jeb bush. >> that's the point, kevin. the thumb in the eye to hillary
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will also be a thumb in the eye to jeb bush. we'll get to that in a second. is team hillary given -- his polls against hillary argue he does the best in the field right now. latest poll 55-42, very early. but numbers show trends. they give us a sense of feel. do they believe they see things in marco rubio that would be tough for hillary to counter and not just age? >> i think it's going to be a tough race. the country is very evenly divided. i think any one of these republicans could put up potentially a very tough race. but marco rubio has got the same problems with his candidacy that jeb bush has, right? i mean he's too moderate. he's not really moderate but he's too moderate for the republican primary electorate. and too conservative for the general election electorate. the problem -- additional problem he's got is he's not jeb bush. i mean, jeb bush has some stature, a family name. i agree with kevin that that is
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what he was trying to do yesterday in the announcement. but i think you saw, you know someone who'd never done this before someone who's a little untested and someone who is not jeb bush. >> let me disagree with that. >> go ahead, kevin. >> jeb bush -- i'm sorry, marco rubio came to prominence with a lot of tea party support, a lot of base conservative support when he first ran for the senate. and he does i think, many folks would say represent one of the candidates who has the ability to bring together not only the establishment republicans but the base of republicans in a primary. and then in a general election because of his cuban-american heritage he has an ability to go out and win some of those hispanic voters that we did so poorly with in 2012. so i think, you know many democrats have to look at him as a potentially very strong general election candidate. >> he came in with the tea party, but then he took his position on immigration. it angered people within the base. >> that's exactly right. the republican party is very fractionalized and there's no real fraction for him.
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he supports immigration reform which would suggest that he's a little bit more of a moderate. but he does not support marriage equality. he does not believe that there's a climate change problem. i mean he is kind of a man without a home in the republican party. >> the democrats have their own problem. they've got everybody's clambering for elizabeth warren to run. there's faction -- fractions on both sides, i think. look at what he's done with proposing a very bold tax plan a very pro-growth tax plan. i think that would -- i think that's going to energize a lot of conservatives to his side inside a republican primary. >> kevin, how far did up did he move in your standings yesterday? >> you know, i have him probably the top three. i would say jeb bush scott walker and marco rubio. >> rubio ahead of rand paul? >> i would put him ahead of rand paul. i think rand paul will be very strong in the early contest, but if you look at somebody who has an ability to have staying power inside that republican primary, i'd put marco rubio up there. i think that's one of his big challenges chris, is if you
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look at that early primary calendar which state does he win? it's a hard -- that's a hard question to answer right now. but i think we have plenty of time to start putting the pieces together of their strategy where they can do that. >> what about this aspect? last night a big part of his theme which is just really strong when it comes to american values is i am middle class. my father's a bartender. my mother was a maid. and look at me. i've made it. the human example beats very often the conceptual model what we're seeing with hillary clinton. not that she came from such royal beginnings but now she is who she is. >> right. >> does that concern you? >> it doesn't concern me but i think it's an excellent point because voting is an emotional experience. it's not always a strategic experience. people don't go to the voting booth and say this person is for this or that you have to have an emotional connection to the candidate. i think that's where he's potentially the most threatening to the democrats.
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but look at hillary clinton. she's had a flawless rollout. she's reconnecting with voters. i think this road trip that she took is exactly what she wanted to do. it parallels what she did when she ran for senate suckcesssuccessfully in new york. >> do you think she's stronger now than when she ran against obama? >> i think she's had a couple of excellent days and if she stays on this path she's really going to surprise people and really connect with people. >> from haterade to the kool aid. >> that was good richard. >> it was good but look at the serious political reporters are calling this the best rollout they've seen so far. i mean everything has been exactly as planned. >> some would argue since john edwards did it online. we got to go. we'll pick it up. kevin madden richard, thank you very much. this is a big story for you no question about it. there's a lot of news this morning. we'll get right to it.
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we have two and a half months to complete a very difficult task which has high stakes for our country. >> what i see is complete lack of understanding between americans and the iranian counterpart. >> people are talking about the real issues. that's what this campaign is going to be about. >> she needs to reconnect with her authentic roots. >> she's going to waltz to the democratic nomination. >> i believe our very identities and exceptional nation is at stake and i can make a difference as president. >> i wouldn't count him out at all. i mean i think he's got a ton of talent. >> roll on your stomach now. [ gunfire ] >> he had been shot -- >> it was excusable homicide under oklahoma law. >> i think you're certainly in a dangerous place when you're allowing wealthy people to pay money almost to play cop. >> he shot me. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, michaela pereira. good morning, welcome back to "new day," allison is off
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today. john berman hanging out with us. congress on a collision course with a nuclear deal with iran oo key senate committee could vote on a bill as early as today to give congress a final say on any deal. obama's top deputies are back on the hill this morning to ask for patience with iran. >> presidential hopefuls watching all of this very closely of course. hillary clinton will kick off her campaign with her first big events in iowa. on the republican side we saw marco rubio declaring himself in very auspicious fashion as the candidate of tomorrow. so what is the state of play? we have it covered for you. we are everywhere only the way cnn can be. let's get to the white house. michelle kosinski what do we know? >> reporter: it's interesting to think might be to work out a framework of a nuclear deal with iran than now for them to try to get congress to go along with it. the white house says they need two things at this moment time
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and space to work out the details of that deal without congress interfering for now. but congress you know they don't see this as interference. they think they should have a vote on a deal for something so important. and some of those who feel that way are in fact democrats. i mean today, the senate foreign relations committee could vote on a bill that would give them an up or down vote on the iran deal. others could add other provisions to it. could prevent the president from taking away sanctions that were imposed by congress while congress is considering this. the senate is close to a veto-proof majority. now is the time for the white house to be working overtime. i mean they've had a classified briefing with the house today. there's one with the senate to try to convince congress otherwise. is it going to work though? it's a pretty big battle at this point. rhetoric has reached proportions they ma even be uglier than usual with the republicans and the white house calling each other naive. chris. >> we have jim himes and bob
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cork rker coming on this morning to talk about what does congress hold as the chips on the table here? we'll break it down and see where everything falls. michelle thank you very much. so hillary clinton's scooby van has arrived in iowa. that's where she's going to hold her first event from the campaign. brianna keilar's live from cedar rapids this morning. why isn't it called the mystery machine? that's what it was called in the cartoon. what is this scooby van? >> reporter: this is her takeoff. we understand this has reminded her of the mystery machine so she calls it her scooby van, which is arguably a cute little phrase. but already chris, it's pretty fascinating, republicans, rnc have seized on this saying didn't she have the scooby van in 2000 when she was running for senate? they're trying to say she's ri e recycling ideas and recycling this concept of the scooby van.
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even the scooby van coming under political attack. hillary clinton wakes up here in iowa this morning. i'm in cedar rapids iowa in the eastern part of the state where she will go to a satellite campus of kirkwood community college. this is expected to be a very small venue that she'll be at today. then tomorrow a fruit company outside of des moines. this though while it's her first official campaign stop it comes after some informal ones as she's made this road trip from new york out here to iowa in that scooby van. and yesterday she stopped at a chipotle. she had a chicken burrito bowl with an ice tea. you know what that kind of detail tells you, she's just like us eats at chipotle. because the overarching theme of her campaign is it's not about hillary clinton, it's about the everyday americans she's fighting for. i would say you're going to be hearing a lot about everyday americans on what's really a listening tour john as she heads here to iowa to do a lot
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more listening and taking in ideas than she will be certainly i think speaking. we don't expect her first major speech to be until next month. >> she'll probably have a chance to visit apple bee's, taco bell who knows before that first brianna, thanks so much. senator marco rubio throwing his hat in the ring saying his generation is ready to lead the country. the florida senator not surprisingly taking a shot at hillary clinton along the way, but perhaps also a not so thinly veiled shot at jeb bush. let's go live to miami and bring in cnn's chief congressional correspondent dana bash in the room for the speech. >> reporter: good morning, john. i was in the room and i have to tell you it felt very much like eight years ago listening to one barack obama talking about the need for hope and change. not what marco rubio was going for exactly i'm sure.
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but certainly that was his theme talking about the need to turn the page to a new generation. 43-year-old marco rubio tried to turn his youth and relative inexperience compared to older candidates into a plus. >> this election is not just about what laws we're going to pass. this election is a generational choice about what kind of country we will be. >> reporter: it's a theme the florida republican returned to time and again drawing a contrast with democratic front runner hillary clinton. >> just yesterday a leader from yesterday began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday. >> reporter: but rubio is also drawing a contrast with a republican name from the past jeb bush florida's former governor and rubio's long-time mentor. some mutual friends are upset rubio isn't waiting his turn.
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which he addressed head-on. >> i've heard some suggest that i should step aside and wait my turn. but i cannot. >> reporter: in an interview with abc news rubio said his candidacy should not be seen as an insult to bush. >> i'm not running against jeb bush. and i hope he's not running against me. we are competing for the same job. >> reporter: cnn has told rubio told bush he's running because no one else has the story to tell he does. a son of cuban immigrants with a palpable sense of the american dream. which shaves his hawkish world view and small government low taxes conservative ideals. >> i live in an exceptional country where the son of a bartender and maid can have the same dreams and the same future as those who come from power and privilege. >> reporter: still rubio has to overcome some gop concerns that his government experience is similar to barack obama's. >> i don't pay much attention to the pundits claiming i need more
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experience. >> reporter: when he became president. now, traditionally when a candidate announces for president they then barnstorm early primary states. that's not what marco rubio is doing. he's got to go back to his day job today to the senate because he sits on the foreign relations committee. and there is of course a very big, very important hearing when it comes to the iran nuclear deal. but, chris, you know maybe he's going to drive and take his version of the scooby van and stop at chipotle. you never know. >> that's right. it seems to be the mode right now. dana, thank you very much. let's talk about that iran deal and the politics surrounding it. bring in congressman jim himes at the meeting getting briefed on the iran deal just last night. congressman, thank you for joining us. >> good morning, chris. >> so after the meeting do you feel more comfortable with the deal? >> well look i think the secretaries did a pretty good job of walking through the framework of really making it
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clear that if and of course that's a big if they can get a final deal that looks like this framework, that is a huge step backwards for iran's ambition to develop a nuclear weapon. the secretary was passionate about, you know as we have to do every time we consider anything here don't compare this deal to the perfect. the idea that iran was going to capitulate 100% with no face saving measures you know complete capitulation but compare it to the alternatives. that said to answer your question chris, i would say that and i think this was both you know,people acting and thinking in good faith and people may be acting and thinking politically, there was a great deal of skepticism in the room. >> well you have your own skepticism about this right? i mean you want to see how the holes are filled in you want to see what verification means. how are your points of resistance any different than what you're seeing on the republican side? >> well look anybody thinking about a deal with iran has to approach a deal with some skepticism. and we need to get to a point
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where at least we know that there is in fact total transparency. you know as the secretary said yesterday, this is not about trust. the old reagan statement of trust but verify this is actually to be a successful deal is about don't trust and verify. so we want to see in fact all the measures that would provide transparency into their program are there. and of course we need to make sure sanctions when and if they are lifted are lifted in a way iran misbehaves they can be put back in place. i think that's what we need to see. anybody negotiating with iran would demand those things. what we need to be a little careful about as a country and i think kerry tried to make this point is that we don't want to torpedo this negotiation before it's finished. and there's a lot of ways that congress could do that. and, you know the secretary was very passionate in saying let us finish this deal and see if we can get to a place that will make you and the world, because of course we're not the only one negotiating here as comfortable
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as you can be. >> let me ask you something. let me play this sound bite of your colleague who's also on the house intelligence committee, republican representative chris stewart, about why he was unimpressed with the briefings. i want to see if you disagree with it and why. >> what i see is a complete lack of understanding between the americans and the iranian counterparts. once again do we have unfeddered access to military installations? we say yes, they say clearly no. do they lift sanctions the day the agreement is signed? they say yes, we say no. i don't think those are misrepresentations in the media so much as there's just vast disagreement on what this really means. >> is he wrong? >> he's partly wrong. look shocker of shockers the iranians are spinning this to their hardliners a little different than the administration is describing it to the american people. now, that is i think, an attribute of potentially a successful negotiation. here's the thing though when a negotiation is completed, there
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will be a document that will be extraordinarily specific about these things. there will be no ambiguity in a document that is acceptable. and so yes, of course right now before a deal is finalized people are going back and beating their chests about everything that they achieved and what a good deal they got. and of course positioning themselves for the final negotiations. remember this is the middle east. there's an awful lot of positioning that goes on. and of course we're in an area of the world where the rhetoric and the anti-u.s. rhetoric and chants of death to america we've been living with those for 30-plus years. people just need to sort of calm down and remember that there's a lot of details yet to be worked out. but that if they can achieve what they say they can achieve, it is probably a better outcome than no deal. or certainly a better outcome than a rush to a military attack on iran. >> all right. when you talk about rush let's flip the script here for a second. put some onus on you guys. senator corker thinking of
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pushing the bill say senate may be all of congress has to have a say on this deal. the white house seems to be walking that line when maybe it doesn't even need to. as you well know the overwhelming number of agreements that this country makes are not treaties are not congressional executive treaties they are just executive deals. by bringing you guys in and having corker have this vote aren't you threatening the deal by not just letting negotiations take place? >> the answer is potentially yes. i appreciate senator corker. i think he's trying to do a good job here. i appreciate the fact he did not join in that absolutely outrageous letter that 47 republican senators sent to the mullahs of iran. he at least understood advising your enemy's leadership in the middle of a very delicate negotiation is probably not consistent with the idea that politics ends at the water eegs's edge. i think what we all need to do is make sure the certainty is
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there that a deal is a good deal but let's not torpedo this thing. there's no doubt in my mind there are those who believe you cannot negotiate with iran. now, you know they have to explain why iran actually negotiated a preliminary agreement and stuck by the terms of the preliminary agreement and then point out to a better alternative. a lot of them say, well we could get a better deal. well you weren't in the room. and you can always you know criticize a deal. but, you know there are those who want to attach things to corker's bill which would essentially torpedo these negotiations. and i think that's not a place we want to be. look here's where i think my constituents and i suspect the bulk of the american people are. they want us to make every effort to strike as strong a deal as we can and not start closing a lot of doors that if you close all those doors at the end of that hallway is yet another military conflict in the middle east. so i think the administration is saying and most people would agree that let's see if we can get a good enough deal with all of its messiness, with all of its compromise to try to avert,
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a, iran getting a nuclear weapon and an arms race in the region but b, yet another war in the middle east. >> congressman hime thank you very much for being with us. we'll keep you in the loop on this process and you please do the same. >> thank you, chris. >> in the next hour we'll talk to senator bob corker he is the co-author of the iran bill. we'll see what leverage they have john. >> waiting for that discussion. should be interesting. the deadly police-involved shooting in tulsa, oklahoma is raising major questions this morning. robert beatates is now charged with manslaughter after bod ki di cameras capture the moment he fatally shot. was he qualified to go along with this sting or was he allowed to play cop because of his donations to the police force? these are serious questions being asked in tulsa and beyond. cnn's ed lavandera live in tulsa for us this morning. good morning, ed. >> reporter: good morning, john. well i think many people here in tulsa have that very same
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question, just exactly what was a 73-year-old reserve deputy doing being involved in a sting operation of this kind of magnitude? >> i got you. >> reporter: it began as an undercover sting. eric harris caught on tape allegedly selling an illegal handgun. as tulsa county sheriff deputies race in to arrest him, harris takes off running. deputies not far behind catch harris and tackle him to the ground. >> roll on your stomach. now. [ gunfire ] >> i shot him. i'm sorry. >> oh oh! [ inaudible ] [ bleep ]. >> he shot me. he shot me! i'm losing my breath. >> reporter: eric harris would later die at the hospital. the deadly shot fired by reserve deputy robert bates. cnn obtained the statement bates
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gave to investigators after the shooting as harris resisted arrest bates told investigators he made a quick decision to use his taser. i remember thinking i have to deploy it rapidly as i still thought there was a strong possibility harris had a gun. bates says he meant to use his taser and he was startled and left in a state of shock and disbelief when he realized he used his gun instead. adding to the volatility here bates isn't a full fledged sheriff deputy. he's a certified volunteer peace officer. bates is also the ceo of an insurance company and has been a long-time benefactor of the tulsa sheriff's department. donating cars and video equipment. >> deputy bates met all the criteria on the council in law enforcement, education and training to be in the role he was in. >> reporter: but harris' family questions how bates could have confused his two weapons, a bright yellow taser and a small .357 revolver. >> your intended behavior slips off track and captured by
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another behavior that might be well -- more well-rehearsed or motorized internally than your initial intention. >> reporter: and, michaela if robert bates is convicted he could face up to four years in prison michaela. >> and, ed we're going to speak with his -- the victim's brother andre harris and the family attorney coming up right here on "new day" in a short while. some other news an alaska airlines jet forced to make an emergency landing after the pilot heard unusual banging coming from underneath the plane during takeoff. when they landed a baggage loader came out from the front cargo hold. he said he'd fallen asleep. he was sent to the hospital and released. he is expected to be just fine. no word yet on the state of his career with the airline. >> a nap in the cargo hold. bad idea. >> questionable. >> bad idea. we got to find out why. >> there's something else going on here. >> he's really lucky that cargo hold was pressurized and
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temperature controlled because otherwise we'd be telling a very different story. all right. so this story about this cop who shot this guy in tulsa thought it was his taser 73-year-old volunteer deputy. the question is was he qualified to be where he was? we just heard a police officer say, well he met all the criteria. 73 years old, local businessman, is that what really drove this mistake? we're going to talk to the brother of the victim next. people ship all kinds of things. but what if that thing is a few hundred thousand doses of flu vaccine. that need to be kept at 41 degrees. while being shipped to a country where it's 90 degrees. in the shade. sound hard? yeah. does that mean people in laos shouldn't get their vaccine? we didn't think so.
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this morning the tulsa reserve deputy who shot and killed a man in oklahoma is now facing manslaughter charges. he said he fired his gun by accident instead of his taser. that's of little comfort to the family of the shooting victim. the brother is standing by with the family attorney. gentlemen, it's one of those things. i'm glad to speak with you but i know it's under very difficult circumstances. andre, i have to ask you first of all, how is the family doing? how are you holding up? >> we're holding up all right at this point. you know we're just putting our faith in god that our justice will be served and that we can get some closure in this
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situation. and continue to move forward. >> what was your reaction to hearing that the reserve deputy had been charged? is that enough for you? >> yes, it was. i was very pleased that the d.a. pressed charges against this individual. and i'm hoping to see more justice in this case. >> as the attorney for the family i know you have questioned why this reserve deputy was involved in this sting operation to begin with. dan, you have lots of questions about why he was on scene. >> well absolutely. i mean i think the country now has seen a system where you've got wealthy individuals with little to no training allowed to participate in a highly dangerous situation. it's dangerous not only to citizens on the streets, but it's dangerous to fellow
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officers. >> his attorney maintains that he was c.l.e.a.t. trained and certified. this is not the same standard police officers are trained with. >> well you know c.l.e.a.t. certification is completely different than field training which is what a standard deputy's going to have. you know hundreds of hours and then thousands of hours of field training. i've not seen any field training records for mr. bates. they've produced some c.l.e.a.t. summary training records. again, completely different than the training records being referenced by the tulsa county sheriff's office. >> andre, i want to read the official statement from the reserve deputy. i don't know if you've had a chance to see it. it says "my intention was to deploy a less lethal device taser, to end this struggle and
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remove the threat posed by harris possibly being armed with a deadly weapon. i never intended at that moment to use deadly force. i believe i was acting appropriately and in a reasonable manner." does it feel appropriate or do you and your family feel he was intentionally shot? >> oh yes. it was a situation where i didn't necessarily think that a taser should even be used. as you see the footage that was three or four maybe five people on him. we hadn't seen the whole tape so i'm not exactly sure how many people are on him. but there was enough people on top of my brother, knees in his head to not even have to use a taser. for it to be that many people around him and him go to use a taser really didn't make any sense. and then with the taser being yellow and on his chest, for him to shoot my brother with a .357
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makes no sense to me. and i think he was -- it was overkill. >> we know that bates also went onto talk about your brother being a convicted felon, described him as this bad -- i don't want to repeat he said some harsh things about your brother. but i know this is not the same person you know. how do you reconcile what we see on the tape. he was involved in some sort of weapons sting. and the man that you know andre? >> well the man that i know is loving and caring. he loved his son aiden. he loved me very much. he worked with me with my ministry. i seen my brother on a daily basis. he was really turning his life around. and that's what we're all called to do is just try to get better as time goes on and try to just see things through. and that's actually what my brother was doing. i was en route to go pick him up to go to work the day that he
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was killed by mr. bates. >> andre harris, dan smullen, thanks so much for joining us. andre, please send our best to your family. i know this is a difficult time for you all especially when this is a story taking the headlines of course. but i know you're mourning is very private and very intense. your thoughts are with us. >> thank you very much. >> john. >> thanks so much, michaela. hillary, marco rubio, rand paul ted cruz they're all in. but joe biden is what exactly? what do his recent comments tell us about what he might do in the 2016 presidential race? john king breaks it all down inside politics next. i'm caridee. i've had moderate to severe plaque psoriasis most my life.
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the field is expanding, the game is afoot, the scooby van is doing what it does. riddle me this the scooby van moving this way, but the arrow in the hillary symbol moving this way. what do you make of that?
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>> rut-ro. >> nice one. i thought i was going to get a tom brady snide remark. with me dafne. >> i'm shaggy. >> thanks very much. oh boy. here we go. i'm fascinated by today and some people think we are a little nuts about this. it is only 2015, but hillary clinton will be in iowa today, monticello iowa, where she came in second place back in 2008. she has some history with iowa of course. it was a source of the beginning of the big disappointment. this will be her first time as a political candidate. she showed up at the tom harkin steak fry and gave a speech where she said i'm back. but this is for the first time since 2008 she's going to look people in the eye and say vote for me.
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>> it's going to be fas natdcinatefascinating. we don't know what she's going to do is she going to have opening remarks, is it a town hall setting? to your point hillary clinton has been in the public eye since she lost in 2008. but she hasn't been in this political space since 2008. the country has changed since then. she is still going to be having to gauge the mood of the country. what does she get out of these small events? is she going to be actually trying to learn from the public? is she just going to be trying to project a certain image? i think every piece of this week is going to be really fascinating for hillary. >> from talking to her people there's something else going on here. this isn't just about optics it isn't about what you might get out of today. if you look at the long course of the campaign this is trying to fix her as a candidate. we know she's been awfully stiff and tight and too calculating as a candidate. what her aides are trying to do what she's hoping to do is put herself in settings where she feels more comfortable, less tight so she can learn to be a happy warrior, which is what a good candidate is. what her husband was. she has to learn in the next
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couple weeks how to enjoy being a candidate. if she can and learn to be a candidate who connects authentically, she's going to be a good candidate. if the next two weeks she reverts back -- >> there were some flashes of that. i said the other day she wasn't that great of a candidate in 2008 and i got a lot of feedback from people saying remember pennsylvania. there were flashes of it in 2008. part people saying she had the wrong staff or too controlling or don't do this and do that. my point is that's probably true and she's got a better staff this time. but she's the ceo of the operation. she has to enjoy it. it's a long slog. we've only covered campaigns for president, none of us have run for president, but it's a long slog. it beats you up keeps you away from your family, lose your temper sometimes. >> that's why i think what they're doing is so smart. not so much for the optics but trying to get her to be a better candidate. >> to that point i've talked to a lot of friends of hers over the last few weeks and they say when she's in these smaller
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settings she actually feeds off energy from people. this is something that will help her feel more comfortable. she will get policy ideas but also feel a connection to voters. >> that's important. >> yeah. she made this stop yesterday at the chipotle on the drive. and the "new york times" had to call the manager of the place and said hillary clinton was there for lunch and he says no she wasn't and there she is, we'll figure out if sales go up or down today. >> i'll check my wedding photos see if she was there. >> you have a great nugget in your piece about how she decided to make this again, this is not to be snarky just a nice detail but she wants to be about the voters this time and get out there and listen to them. but you have this nugget about where she made the final decision at the oscar delorenta compound. >> yeah. they spent the holidays at his beach front state in the do dominican republic. that's where she went with the binder to make her decision.
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it's funny. that's part of her life. it's the space they occupy. and yet for most americans the idea of jetting off to a beach front mansion in the dominican republic for the holidays is just very different than their experiences. >> maybe they're just getting this stuff out of the way now. i was joking with the staff if you look at the town and country magazine this month bill clinton is on the cover, elle magazine chelsea is on the cover. get this out of the way and go out and be candidates of the people. interesting yesterday, the day after hillary clinton announces joe biden does a round table with reporters. he has said consistently i'm not going to rule it out. i read in the end here a little bit of truth from joe biden. he said at this round table, i haven't made up my mind yet. i have plenty of time to do that in my view. if i'm wrong, i'm dead wrong. but there's a lot the president i care about has to get done in the next few months and when you run for president, you have to run for president. meaning it's all consuming. i'm not ready to do that joe
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biden said if i am ever going to be ready to do that. you can go back over the last six years and scrub his answers when he's asked this question. you won't find that last part, if i'm ever going to be ready. that's joe saying hillary ran, she's in, i'm not going to do this. >> we've been waiting for this moment for joe biden. he's been do nothing that a candidate needs to do to prepare. he's not setting up operations or line up donors. i think people in the party want to give him the space to kind of make his announcement he's not running. in his own time i think this was the start of that. >> if i was him i wouldn't start dry. keep my powder dry. you don't know what's going to happen. >> dick cheney lost influence as vice president because nobody feared him in the political apparatus. the other big candidate who got in yesterday, lower key day today, but marco rubio very clearly had secretary clinton in mind when he said this.
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>> a leader from yesterday began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday. yesterday is over. >> it's a good line. it's a smart line from the political construct. we've talked about this before about marco rubio's great potential. you say this is a great athlete. some hit 187, some go on to have mvp style years. can he raise enough money and can he execute? >> yeah, i thought his speech was relatively uneven. not as inspirational as i thought it would be the performance. his big lack of experience, obama proven to not be the most effective leader because of his lack of experience.
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a guy we covered in the '90s, understanding people connecting people two quick lines when people said i should wait and then that wonderful story he tells all the time about my father who started working in a bar in the back of the room and now i'm in front of the podium it gives me chills just thinking about it because we all want to think our families can still do better than we are. and we know that's not happening anymore. >> some people in washington new york might think if you have a lot of money in your pocket you might think that story is corny. go to a small room in this country, that is the gnawing ang anxiety of small town america. i owe my parents everything i have. you look at your kids and say they're going to have a better chance. >> and there's a sense that rubio is connecting with the mood of the country. and the thing i think he has in his favor in terms of the pure message is that this generational argument is one that he can make both against hillary clinton and one he can make against jeb bush. and he can split this focusing
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on the primary and general with the same message. >> can he find his place in a very crowded republican field, michaela? second week of baseball season, kind of like the first official week of campaign 2016. tiepd e time to have some fun. >> i guess your point is we have to pace ourselves, right? it's a long few months we've got ahead of us right, john? >> pace pace pace. >> marathon not a sprint. caffeine big friend of that. meanwhile, big day for hillary clinton as he re-introduces herself to voters in iowa. what challenges she'll face going forward with clinton's one-time chief of staff. he joins us next. shopping online... ...is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers carpenters and even piano tuners... were just as simple? thanks to angie's list now it is. start shopping online... ...from a list of top rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. most of the products we all buy are transported on container ships. before a truck delivers it to your store, a container ship delivered it to that truck.
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hillary clinton is set to hold her first actual campaign event today, that's after the official road trip driving in the scooby van from new york all the way to iowa. will this campaign resonate with voters this new style? what challenges will she face in the coming months?
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joining us to talk about the campaign and the candidate, someone who knows the former secretary of state very well, she served as chief of staff to mrs. clinton when she was first lady now director of the georgetown institute for women. thank you so much for being with us. good morning. >> good morning, john. it's a pleasure. >> we saw a remarkable photo yesterday, the likes of which i've never seen on the campaign trail. hillary clinton ordering a burrito bowl at chipotle. i hope we can put that picture up so everyone understands the historical significance of this. i believe she also got an ice tea. leave that as a side note. these photos send a message that hillary clinton is just like all of us. is it possible for voters to get that message when hillary clinton has been in the public eye for decades and decades? a senator, a first lady a secretary of state, can she really be just like all of us
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when she drove to chipotle with the secret service behind the wheel? >> well i think she can indeed. and in fact it's the role that she's been in over many many years. she's never lost a connection to where she came from. a middle class family growing up in the midwest, someone who had to work hard to get to where she is put herself through school with some help from her family but not lots of help. she's somebody who can relate to the everyday lives of americans. and i think getting back making these connections, doing it retail earning each vote this is who she is. she is someone who has been in the public eye, obviously. but she's also someone who has not lost touch. >> the fact the campaign feels the need to send this message indicates that somehow over the last years or decades voters haven't received that message.
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why then don't voters see her as like the rest of us? >> well you know i think she has been secretary of state for the last four years. it's not a position in which she's been in the political fray so much. but she has been in politics for a long time. she has been someone who easily connects with people. you know i so often hear from folks who say i didn't think i would like her, but then i got to know her, i got to work with her. and i'm in her corner as long as i need to be and then some. she is someone who can quickly win people over because she has a great sense of humanity. she has a great commitment to service. she has great resilience. and she has a big heart. and i think that comes across. and so when she can sit in diners or meet with people one-on-one they really get to know her. so a lot of politics is retail.
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and it's connecting. >> you ever been to chipotle with the first lady before? >> i have not been with her to chipotle but i have spent many times in small places and diners and restaurants. and she is not comfortable in any of those places it's really who she is. >> let me move beyond chipotle politics if that's possible here. >> good. >> i want to play sound from president obama yesterday, of course ran against hillary clinton but worked with her, he was asked flat out would he endorse her. this is what he said. >> it's a little early for endorsements since she just announced yesterday. but here's what i can say, she is a talented tenacious, was a great secretary of state, she is a friend of mine and i think she would be an excellent president. >> this is going to be really interesting to watch over the next couple of months. you see the president there, that wasn't an endorsement but boy it was awfully close. he can embrace her but not fully embrace her.
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you have hillary clin to who can't fully embrace the white house but wants to embrace parts of it. how do you navigate that difficult path there? >> well you know one of the things that she was always asked as secretary when she would travel the world was how could you join the administration of a president who ran against you? and you were in a tough campaign together. and she always answered that in terms of we had far more in common than we had the differences. and this is all about our country and our values. and it has been a stalwart supporter of the president's policy she has put differences out when there have been differences. but i recall so many times when she was being considered for secretary and to become and i would get questions like, well, how is this going to work? she was his opponent. she won't be loyal to him. she has been consistently there.
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and when they've had differences she's expressed them in private. so i think she will mount this campaign in a way that shows the consistencies and where there are some differences she will articulate those differences. >> great to have you with us on "new day" this morning. thanks so much. chris. all right, john. almost five years since the deepwater horizon disaster in the gulf of mexico. do we have any answers? how bad was it really? what has changed? we're going to take you to the gulf and you're going to get a unique look as we preview cnn's documentary "blowout" about the b.p. oil spill. ♪ ♪ ♪
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this was a very controversial thing. they are just digging up things now on the beach five years later. why? >> the deal is it's still there. >> right. >> this oil is still there, and it's unbelievable they are still finding this stuff and the fact of the matter is bp is saying the oil company that spilled it we knew where this oil was and we are being told to wait until the natural erosion takes it away and will go in and scoop it up. here is what they are doing. >> so we are showing some of the footage of the documentary of it obviously going through it and i know what drew you back there, and first there was supposed to be big pulls on top of the water, and then no it's trapped in big clouds of it
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under the sea. what did you find? >> more than 4 million barrels of oil came out of that well and it went somewhere, right? bp would like to tell you that it went away and nature naturally eroded some of the oil, and scientists are saying there's 1,200 square miles where this oil existed in patches in the bottom of the gulf, and we don't know where it is and we are still digging up oil, and five years later it's still too early to tell if there is going to be long-term reprecautions, and what is amazing is the resilient see of the population and we keep throwing crap at these people, and they keep bouncing back. it's not as bad as people thought it would be tpaoeu years later, but it's not over and we
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are still digging up oil and we don't know what is going to happen or what is happening to the fish or all the aquatic life that lives there, so it's still a question. we would like to button it up and put it away like a hurricane, but we can't, chris. >> we can keep asking questions. thank you, and it's called "blowout," the gulf oil disaster. the senate posing a direct challenge with president obama that may derail the iran nuclear deal. we will talk with the top senator that could hold the fate of the deal in his hands.
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we have two and a half months more. >> at some point congress is going to have to lift the sanctions. it's the attitude of get a deal at all costs that has lots of countries concerned. >> i think she would be an excellent president. >> it's about everyday americans, not about hillary. >> the policies are really
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taking us back. >> underestimating marco rubio is a mistake. >> the last thing my brother heard, f your breath as if he didn't matter. this is "new day." >> good morning and welcome to your new day, and alison is off, and jb is with us here this morning. we have a lot of news for you this morning. a big vote could come on the iran deal, and should congress have any say on the final deal? and they are heading back to capitol hill to brief members of the senate. >> all of this, no doubt great interest to hillary clinton, and senator marco rubio, meanwhile, who could have to vote on iran legislation throwing his hat into the ring on the republican
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side. we will begin with michelle kaczynski live from the white house? >> at this point congress is very close to taking action that could change a nuclear deal with iran or derail it. the foreign relations committee could vote on the deal that could give congress the up or down vote on the deal that they have been looking for and could prevent president obama from having a deal and now is the time for the white house to work to try and convince members of congress otherwise they are having the classified briefings, and yesterday with the house and today with the senate, and what the white house says they need are simply time and space to hammer out the details of the plan and things have been getting ugly name calling and
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both sides calling each other naive, and the white house saying republicans are so rigidly partisan they are not going to want a deal under any circumstances, and keep in mind some of those saying congress should have a vote on this are, in fact democrats. >> those michelles with iran clearly on the mind with white house hopefuls including hillary clinton, that is hoping hawkeye love, and she is getting ready for her first campaign event at a community college in iowa and our political correspondent is live in cedar rapids iowa and lots of conversations about her van and snacks. what is on tap for her today? >> reporter: she is going to the community college, and to give asense of how paired down it is the satellite campus of a community college, and it's a small venue not far from cedar
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rapids before tomorrow she goes to a fruit company outside of des moines in this state where agriculture is so important. these are her first campaign appearances officially and she has been making a road trip from new york to iowa, and yesterday she was at a khau poelt lay in iowa. you can see the details being released by her campaign saying she is normal and going out for food on her way on this road trip, and she is making her way in the scooby van that you mentioned, and they are trying to make the case that it's a
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recycled campaign and she is approaching this go around with more humility, and you will hear over and over john this idea that she is out here for everyday americans, and this campaign is not about her and it's about them, and i would say if you had a nickel for every time you heard somebody in her campaign say everyday americans, you would be on your way to buy your own burrito bowl. >> and they are not cheap. and marco rubio, he is putting his focus on hillary clinton. let's bring in dana bash. >> when we found out hillary clinton was going to be announcing the day before marco rubio, the others i and others posted in his campaign asked are
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you worried you will be overshadowed and they said they welcomed the contrast, and they tried to play it up about the need for a new generation of political leaders. listen to this. >> just yesterday a leader from yesterday -- began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday. yesterday is over. >> now, he talked very much about his personal history and his heritage, and about his cuban parents who came to this country, and what that experience has done for him with regard to his policy views especially on the international stage, talking about the need to
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be an enterinterventionist. he is not doing a tour of the early primary states but he is going back to the day job because he hopes that will be a calling call and in the foreign relations committee, there is a vote on about whether or not congress should have an approval on the iran deal. >> let's get an answer to it right now and see if there is going to be a vote. let's bring in senator john core kerr. senator, thank you for joining us. do you believe there will be a big vote today? >> i do chris. it is a very important vote as you have laid out. the fact is congress through the sanctions four times we put in place since 2010 has brought iran to the question so the
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question today will be should the president be able to go directly to the u.n. security council and lift those sanctions without congressional input or should the president have to come to congress and allow us time to review the details of this and have the right to weigh in on this and, by the way, to stay involved if a deal is approved, and should we have that right prior to going to the u.n. security council, and we believe the american people on their behalf want congress to understand the details and understand what comes with a deal like this and that's what the vote is about today, and my sense and my hope is that we could and will have a successful vote today. >> it will just be a first step right? you would be looking for both bodies of congress here to get involved -- >> that's correct. >> your leverage are the sanctions. >> that's right. >> we are not sure the white
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house would push back on how big the equation of the sanctions are, but let me ask, what about the timing here? if you do this now don't you feel you may be compromising the process in lieu of what was just told to you. let's play the sound. >> we have 2 1/2 months to still negotiate. we hope congress will listen carefully and ask the questions that it wants and also give us the space and the time to be able to complete a very difficult task which has high stakes for our country. >> why take this instead of working to compromise with the white house while they are doing the negotiating? >> i think there may be a misunderstanding about what is happening. what congress is saying when they finish negotiating, we are not going to be involved while
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they are negotiating, but when they finish we want this presented to congress and lay before congress without the congressional sanctions being lifted and we want to vote to approve or disapprove if we so choose. >> how can they negotiate a deal if the iran side of the table says well you really can't give me any assurances because you have to go to your congress after this? that's a big set of handcuffs. >> look really on any agreement reached whether it's the start treating the inf treaty with russia in any case congress gets involved with those in a much bigger way. >> in treaties but was know the overwhelming number of agreements made internationally are executive agreements where there is no congressional role. >> but seldom has there been a
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place, that's all we are focused on making sure what we put in place are alleviated the sank sanctions we put in place are alleviated, and we want to understand and assure it's going to meet the test of time. for this to end up being a bad deal where they end up getting a nuclear weapon and, by the way, have dollars to export in the region in a more full way, that's a terrible place for the united states and for the region. and let me say this chris, we know for a fact in switzerland as they negotiated the political agreement, the fact that the negotiators understood it was likely that congress was going to play a role we nope that stiffened the spine of the negotiators and calls the political agreement, whether there is debate about what that agreement is to be even better
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and we think this is a very constructive role and fortunately there are many memorandums on the democratic side that have come to agree with that thought process. >> there also believes to be a division. i do not believe you would get from the white house that congress is make it easier for them to negotiate? >> every administration would like for congress not to be involved. i will say that secretary kerry, when he was a senator, president obama, when he was a senator, attempted to do the same exact thing as it relates to the status of forces agreement in iraq. so you know a lot of times chris, where you stand is where you sit. this is the rightful role for congress to play on behalf of the american people to make sure that this is a transparent deal that iran is held accountable throughout the entire process, that they comply and this agreement is enforced. i am really proud of the work
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that in a bipartisan way we have done, and i am hopeful that we are going to be very successful today. >> there is no question there is reason for concern and i am sure that is what is helping to motivate the bipartisan report that she is speaking to but you know you are not going to like the deal right? almost by definition when you negotiate something thislike this you are kind of setting up a very difficult standard for the white house to satisfy, don't you think? >> i don't think so at all. i think that we have most the large majority of the people in the united states senate are sober and thoughtful people, and i think everybody understands the stakes here. >> there is no other plan being offered? >> what is that? >> there is no other plan being offered. you don't have your own deal on the table, right, you want to
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vote to approve the negotiators deal you don't have your own deal? >> no that's not our role. our role is to advise and consent, and this puts our branch as a more co-equal branch. and i am thankful that on a strong strong bipartisan basis people believe that this is something that congress ought to be doing. i am also thankful that the integrity of this process, it looks like will absolutely remain in place. so i absolutely believe that we are doing the right thing on behalf of the american people just look right now, chris, at the disagreement that is taking place relative to what this deal even is. iran is saying one thing, and obviously we are saying something else and some of the other countries, some things in between. i think it's very very
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important to the stability of the region to the world and to the safety of the americans that congress have a role in this. i believe we struck the exact right balance in the agreement that will be voted on today, and i am hopeful we will be very very successful. >> obviously the goal in mind is to make it an easier process, and we know you have that in your mind. thank you for joining us to talk. the deadly police involved shooting of an unarmed man in tulsa, oklahoma. bates has been charged with manslaughter. many are asking how the volunteer officer can mistake the gun as a taser, and an insurance company ceo who donated equipment to the police force. >> they are set to vote today
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for the resolutioning in yemen, and the resolution was drafted by jordan and gulf countries but it could be blocked by russia one of iran's allies. >> oh, boy, our university of runner going from zero -- >> he gets beat at the wire. the runner says he didn't see the second place guy coming up on him, and he says he heard the roar of the crowd and he thought it was congratulations and not a warning. >> that's a lesson you only learn once right? >> how about the other guy, and he is running hard at the end there. really impressive. >> you run through the tape that's what you do. >> oh, that's a tough lesson to learn in life isn't it? but once you get it you got it. >> i feel sad. >> i do too.
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jeb bush is my friend, and he will be a very strong
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candidate. i honestly believe at this moment in our history we need to move in a new direction as a country. >> senator marco rubio addressing one of the obstacles in his way, and does rubio have what it takes to overcome party favorites like jeb bush and let's bring in our political commentators and anna navarro, a supporter of jeb bush. ladies start your engines. anna this run for president against jeb bush by marco rubio is being described as a shakespearen betrayal. you know both of these men personally and what do you make of it? >> first of all, we are in miami, and let's forget shakespeare and let's go with
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south florida. there's dramatic aspects to it and they are very good friends and there's a mentor and mentee relationship. they spent time together over the weekend on a plane, and jeb said you know i like the guy, he is my friend. when they are calling each other friend they are being genuine and authentic. that does not mean it's going to get a little funky and strained as this goes along or the people around them are as good friends as the two of them are, and i think for a while you will see both of them be positive and give their agenda and show the country their vision and not hit each other, at least for a while. >> help us explain to anna this is not going to end well. in order for marco rubio to run past jeb bush he has to run
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through jeb bush doesn't he donna? >> there is no question jeb bush has name recognition, but probably the political muscle and the ability of what marco rubio will have to earn. marco rubio is the new kid on the block, and as you know be careful for what you wish for, and marco rubio could overcome a jeb bush or anybody else. and with that said this campaign season is open open to new comers like rubio, and also to those that already have run before like on our side of the aisle, secretary of state, hillary clinton. i think people are still looking for change and they are going to support the candidates who they believe will improve their lives, the quality of their lives, and the economy, and you know what may the best person win, and i think she will be a
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woman. >> you talk about the biblical story, and about how the one of barack and goliath, and what marco rubio is selling now worked in 2008. this is what obamaa then senator did against a huge hillary clinton machine, and some are saying hillary clinton was stronger then than now? >> no question secretary clinton received more votes in 2008 and running as a woman is not a easy task and she was able to get 18 million tiny little cracks in that proverbial classglass ceiling. you need to make sure you have the 2,100 delegates or so, and she is running a far different campaign. that trek across the country, i have done that before and that's not easy, and today she will be in monticello and small towns in iowa but she is going to
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talk about the values that she hopes to make senator stage in this campaign season. >> when you see the two of them on scene, hillary clinton at 67 and marco rubio is 42 43 and i was just looking at the generational aspect of somebody like marco rubio, and i think we have a full still of this and a fan of tupac, he quotes jay-z, and his wife a former dolphins cheerleader, and so the narrative is fantastic here the fact that his father was a bartender and his mother was a maid and this is speaking to a lot of people across the country. >> i think it does and marco knows that it does and he has a great or tory skill. he is able to reach peoples'
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hearts when he speaks. that speech he gave last night, i heard elements of that speech for years and it still grasps me every time i hear it, and i know it's true i met his mother and i met his father who has since passed away, and going back to hillary clinton, i have a question if a tree falls in a forest and there's nobody around to hear the sound, does it make a sound? if hillary clinton goes into a chipotle and nobody knows she is there, was she really there? >> how many people are in khauthere with that suit on? >> hillary is trying to do a "wilma and lawouise."
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>> that's what america is all about, what america cares about right now, they want somebody to raise their wages, and that's the candidate they saw yesterday when she came before them at that restaurant. i hope she didn't get the sour cream. >> great to have you here with us. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. a serious question i have to ask right now, are police abusing their power? repeated incidents around the country of potentially unarmed men ending up dead at the hands of police. we will take a closer look ahead.
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a senate committee set to vote on a bill that will give congress a say on any nuclear deal with iran, and lawmakers are there asking for time. marco rubio is now the third republican to enter the race. new audio emerged after the
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shooting that left walter scott dead, and he is caught laughing nervously on tape after the death. >> and then a shooting in tulsa oklahoma, and robert bates is expected to turn himself in to face manslaughter charges after he shot harris. and then the pilot heard unusual banging, and a ramp agent had become stuck after falling asleep in the cargo hole. >> that's still the wow of the day what happened to that guy. here is another topic for you, going green. doesn't always mean you need tons of green. a group in northern california using solar power to bring sustainability and jobs to lower income communities, and it's
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there are new details emerging in two controversial cases of alleged excessive force by police, and a deputy in
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florida is facing manslaughter charges after shooting and killing a man during a chase, and questions are swirling about why this deputy was involved in this type of sting in the first time, and then walter scott's passenger speaking out saying his friend was gunned down by an officer. let's discuss these cases with somebody that knows the job, a member of the national coalition of police officers for justice. sergeant, thank you for joining us. let's deal with the over arching view and we keep being told excessive force is down, and it's 1% or less of interactions and things are getting better but why do we keep hearing about these cases. is it just media focus? >> good morning, chris, and thank you for having me. if you want to know if excessive force is really down why don't you ask the people that are the
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victim of excessive force, and we understand nothing has changed and we are starting to see with our own eyes thank god, because of the advent of the cell phone, to what extent officers will go to minimize mitigated and in some cases straight out lie about the excessive force and deadly force they are using? >> you don't buy it and you say it's less about the reality on the ground. tulsa is an unusual one, where you have somebody who seems to have been gifted a deputy possession but when you look at this tell us where a taser is supposed to be in relation to a service revolver or your weapon? >> this mistake is unreasonable on every level, and i don't know if this gentleman is right-handed or left-handed, and i heard he can use either hand
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about utah what we have is a situation where there is a pact mentality at the end of a high intensity situation, and it looks like there is several young officers already in there handling mr. harris, and you have this guy, deputy bates come rupp running up in the end with a taser, and he wants to get in there and show that he can hang and taser, taser, and pulls out his handgun and shoots it. it's unconscionable he can't tell the difference between the taser and handgun. >> you are saying it's about the training. >> i don't think it's a cover story. i can't speak to his heart, so i will give him the benefit of the doubt. but i can tell you at 73 he had no business being part of that as a reserve deputy.
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when you work a high profile situation like a takedown or sting operation, those officers i am sure train extensively, the younger ones together. i would imagine being a patrol officer and sergeant that when the young officers that are working that detail see bob coming up or whatever his name is i can't remember coming up they are probably think, jesus, let's keep him at the back and we'll keep him out of the actual action if you will should it happen but he wanted to insert himself and be part of that and sometimes you have to be careful what you ask for. >> now we get to the big case making the rounds in south carolina north charleston. video has come out of the officer involved having tased somebody else who is now suing and saying i should not have been tased. is this meaningful to you in understanding what happened with walter scott or just a different scenario? >> it's meaningful in that i said all along that we knew when
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we saw mr. scott get tasered by the officer that that was not the first time he had done that. you don't come out and kill somebody the first time around. i knew that he was an overly aggressive officer, and so to hear in 2013 he pulled on man out of his own home and tased him, and now we hear he has pulled a man out of a vehicle for what? a broken taillight, because that's his mo, and he tased him. this is on video so it's not like the police chief in that department doesn't know they have an airant officer on hand. they were covering up his misdeeds and they were not able to cover up mr. scott, and now they have to say they have a situation here, and after slager you are on your own. >> well one thing is for sure we are seeing that with more video, which raises the issue of body cameras, every truth of every situation can come into
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play. thank you very much and we appreciate your perspective on this and we will have you back on "new day." >> thank you for having me. as a former law enforcement official and somebody who believes there's a problem, and tell me what you think. we will look at what will be the costliest political season ever. on a related note marijuana, the high profits tells the extraordinary story of two marijuana intrapreneurs. it's coming sunday and here is a sneak peek. >> they are parasites. >> they are preying on our community and kids. >> it's going to end badly. they have $100,000 in cash in the back of his car, and i bet there are people in that prison for doing just what we are about
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it looks like progressive is not the lowest! ohhhh! when we return we'll find out whether doug is the father. wait, what? that music means the presidential election is here and by here i mean 574 days away. but the sparring and sniping is already heating up. this could be the costliest campaign season ever so how are the strategies shaping up for the democrats and republicans? let's ask two people who know. the communications director for the democratic committee, and this looks like a cage match. two will enter and one will leave. we have two campaign rollouts this week that conventional
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wisdom says both can be good and mo let me start with you. marco rubio, the senator from florida last night gave a compelling speech about his compelling personal history, the son of immigrants and just 43 years old, and he presented an exciting forward-looking message, and why is that wrong? >> marco rubio is a great speaker and knows how to give a great speech and is it was a well-orchestrated event, and with the message he is trying to portray himself as a new leader with new ideas, the candidate of the future and if you break it down it's the same failed economic policies where he has given breaks to the rich and the big corporations on the back of the middle class, and taking away women's health care decisions, and it's a throwback to the broken-down policies that
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people keep rejecting. i am still waiting for him to show us any indication that he is any kind of new visionary leader. >> hillary clinton's rollout was a great stage craft but not a ton of substance behind it. the american people don't find huronest and trustworthy, and we saw this with the van ride she was taking, and last week she was in a g6 and now she is in a v-6 van, and i think the idea that you are getting in a van and going across the country is great, and as far as the rollout itself it's the same thing as when she ran for the senate in 2000 and down to calling it the scooby van.
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the substantive part of it she lacks. they have a huge problem connecting with average everyday working americans. >> what do you make of that? how can hillary clinton say she is the right for 2016 when she has been at it for so long? >> both candidates and parties on both sides, and i -- i expect hillary clinton will have a primary component. >> sean is scoffing at you. >> it's more laughing. >> it's not the first time sean has ever laughed at me, and i am happy i can amuse him, but i think that's true there will be multiple candidates on both sides. but this is what i think is interesting, if you look at the last few weeks and days there
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were perspective candidates for the republicans and all they talk about is hillary clinton. if you listen to secretary clinton and other candidates they are talking about everyday americans and how to move the needle forward to help make sure that more people can work their way into the middle class, and once they get into the middle class, they can thrive. >> he has a point right there. he spends a big chunk of his speech talking about who is not even the democratic nominee, and why not focus on what he is going to do and not hillary clinton? >> if they put out a statement praising chafee as a competitive primary to hillary clinton, that speaks volumes. yes, we had tens of thousands of people go to stophilarylary
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stophillarygop,that's something. nobody is excited about hillary clinton. she has near perfect name identification around the country, and when you look at the recent polls that came out, she is upside down and her favor raw ability has gone down to the high 40s, because the more people are reminded about hillary clinton -- >> i think the entire republican field is underwater as well and americans don't like politicians, and i think that's fairly true mo. >> yeah no i think there is absolutely a disconnect between the american people and washington and that's why you see the democratic candidates talking about everyday americans and talking about how to help the middle class, whereas the republicans, if you want to talk
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about -- all these republicans say they are different and new and the wave of the future, and i can take mitt romney's stump speech from 2012 and superimpose it over these guys and it would be no different, and their view of the vision is throwbacks and the democrats talk about the future. >> glad you are both smiling at the end here. when you feel it on the inside it will show on the outside. a lesson not just for the politicians, but a promise of the good stuff. wait until you see what is happening at prom. (son) oh no... can you fix it, dad? yeah, i can fix that.
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time for "the good stuff." >> and california salon owner, snooki rico for the past six years, she has been giving free makeovers to kids that are sick with cancer so they can feel great about going to prom. >> these are my heroes. really. you know just to see these kids go through what they go through. >> it's amazing to see how they are still standing. >> the girls say they feel strong on the inside and it makes all the difference to have it show on the outside.
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>> i was diagnosed with a rare bone cancer when i was about 11 years old. i feel gorgeous. i never put on makeup but when this came i was like, wow. >> and you are gorgeous. >> yeah really powerful. way to go snooki. >> let's hand it over to carol costello. it's "news room" time. >> thank you so much. "news room" starts now. happening now in the "news room," a reserve deputy charged with manslaughter after using his handgun instead of his taser. hillary hits iowa, and why all the doctor says forget all the talk

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