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taking place. >> really a terrific and excellent documentary that i highly recommend. thanks very much for doing it. please be sure to tune in later tonight. 9:00 p.m. eastern for our special report, blowout, the gulf oil disaster. only seen right here on cnn. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. aire erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight, breaking news. protests across the nation after the white volunteer deputy charged with manslaughter in a shooting death of a black suspect turns himself in. was he qualified to be on the street or did he pay to play. >> plus stunning new dashcam video just in of a speeding police car ramming a suspect. justified or excessive force? and planes with wi-fi vulnerable to terrorist attacks. a new report tonight says yes, all it takes is a laptop. let's go "outfront."
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good evening. i'm erin burnett, "outfront," breaking news. protests across the nation tonight after another deadly shooting involving a white officer and an unarmed black man. you're looking at the crowd taking to the street right here in new york. they're blocking traffic on new york's brooklyn bridge at this moment. there's also another rally going on in san francisco already, as you can see, crowds are gathered there with signs that read "black lives matter." these are scenes repeated in several other cities tonight, including tulsa, where today, 73-year-old volunteer deputy turned himself in after being charged with second degree manslaughter. robert bates is his name and he said he accidentally shot eric harris, the man you see running away in an undercover sting operation. there are growing questions tonight about whether bates who is a former insurance executive who had donated thousands of dollars to the sheriff's department in tulsa, was qualified to be on the street.
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brian young is live tonight. ryan i know you have been digging investigating into bates' past what have you learned today? >> well we have been talking to a lot of law enforcement officials just about how even the taser and gun is set up. most law enforcement agencies across the country, the gun is on one side taser on the other side to make sure no one gets confused when they grab either one. 73-year-old robert bateses turned himself into the tulsa county jail before posting bail. the insurance ceo and volunteer deputy now faces second degree manslaughter charges for the death of eric harris in an undercover operation that went wrong fast. this voedio shows the moment harris makes a run for it after deputies say he tried to sell them a gun. >> stop right there! >> you could hear bates say he's going to use his taser. instead, he pulls a gun and fires a shot. that ultimately kills harris. >> shot him. i'm sorry. >> you can hear harris screaming
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in pain while the officers continue to restrain him. >> stop fighting. >> there are plenty of questions about how this 73-year-old bates could end up on an operation of this high risk. many wonder if bates' close relationship with the sheriff led to this assignment. over the years, robert bates has donated several vehicles including a dodge charger, a crown victoria and a toyota avalon along with video equipment and $2500 donations to the sheriff's re-election campaign. >> they have taken the fact that this man has been good to the community and has been ben evlnt to the community and a great citizen for our town and made it something bad or sinister. that's the unfortunate thing. >> his lawyer talked about bates' emotions about the shooting that has this sheriff's office defending his use of volunteer deputies. >> obviously, he is very upset about what happened. he feels badly.
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the incident completely took him by surprise. he has all the requisite training. he is taser certified. and if you watched the video, you know he was quite shocked when his gun went off. >> bates was a police officer for a year back in the 1960s, and he received 300 hours of training since becoming a reserve developty in 2008. his attorney says bates assisted on more than 100 operations but always in a supporting role not the one making an actual arrest. as you can imagine, eric harris' family attorney does not see bates' involvement in the same way. >> if that gentleman out there, and it will be shown over the next i hope several weeks, that mr. bates lacked really any kind of training. and mr. bates had been a tulsa police department officer from 1964 to 1965 for one year. never passed his probationary period. >> and we know in the next hour or so there's planned protests
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that should be happening in the city. >> all right ryan thank you very much. i want to bring in now scott wood deputy robert bates attorney. i appreciate you coming back to talk to us. he's been referred to by your colleague, they say some people are painting your client in a bad and sinister light. let me just ask you about this fundamental question, though because you heard ryan young laying out that he bought cars donated to the sheriff's re-election campaign. there are people who say that adds up to him essentially paying his way onto the force. paying to play. >> erin that's not true. i know it's being said repeatedly. but that's not the case. deputy bates had all the requisite training and experience. i think i mentioned that last night that he had been involved in over 100 of these types of operations. and if you look at the layout of where they were when this gun
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buy goes down he's over a third of a mile away from that location. >> so let me just ask you, though, because of the things we know about bates' past and his training do raise some questions. as you point out, he had training. however, he has only briefly worked for the tulsy police department as an officer, back in 1964. one year back in the mid-1960s, and his success was an an insurance company executive. again in 2012 he was the man who chaired the re-election campaign for the tulsa sheriff. the chair of that campaign. when you look at that again, it does raise the questions, whether he really was qualified to be involved in this operation, which was a dangerous undercover sting operation which involved a weapon transfer. >> yeah. you know he was never intended to be involved in the weapon transfer or the takedown of eric harris after the purchase of the weapon. his job was to leave that gas
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station where he was, a third of a mile to the north, and proceed over to the apartment complex where a search warrant was going to be served. he served as a scribe. he takes down information about the evidence and so forth. and so it was harris who thrust himself onto bates, and that's how the two came together in the middle of north harvard on tulsa. >> you're saying it was the suspect, not him. let me ask you this the age question. a delicate one, but it's important, and it's fair i believe. in oklahoma officers can retire after 20 years on the force. once you have been on the force for 30 years, you benefits don't accrue anymore. that's it. as a result, most of them retire, leave the force in their 50s. even here in new york city, the biggest police force in the country, almost all the officers retire in their 50s. we were able to confirm today. this is the way it is in this country. bates was 73 years old. the victim's family says they don't believe it was reasonable for a 73-year-old to be involved
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in this type of work to be wielding a weapon. isn't this a fair question as to whether bates was too old to have that gun on the streets? >> you know i think what you really have to do is look at people on an individual basis. i know in the last couple months, i have seen two news stories where police officers that were in their 80s retired. i think san francisco officer was 81 obviously, was not out in the field. but the pension aspect of it i mean all of this time is donated. that has nothing to do with it. this has to do with bob bates wanting to be a part of this community and do something good. and that's what his intention has always been. does being a reserve prohibit you from donating to a sheriff's campaign fund? they have known each other for years and years. but the bottom line is he had been doing this role with the
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task force for quite some time. and if you'll talk to any squad officers or people who serve search warrants together on a regular basis, if they have a link in the chain, they're the first ones to say something about it. everybody's life is at steakake. >> thank you very much the attorney for deputy robert bates. "outfront" now, pow cowen and mark. you heard mr. wood defending his client, saying he was not tooold and he was qualified to be on the streets carrying the weapon. what's your reaction? >> that is not surprising as his attorney, but a bizarre explanation. at best, you can make a case that a 73-year-old man has the ability to have an oxauxiliary role with the police but he typically does things like chalk out body outlines or put tape up or act as a scribe. they don't get this close to the action. most people retire in their 50s.
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this is absurd, no defense for this. the fact he donates to the sheriff's fund isn't a problem per se but it suggests this is somebody who is wealthy and took advantage of it. maybe good intention, but terrible detriment. >> let me get to the point about the wealth. his attorneys trying to say no, that had nothing to do with it. he was trying to make the difference. that may be the case but he donated multiple vehicles cameras guns video equipment. he was the chair of the sheriff's re-election campaign and gave him the $2,500 maximum donation. that says he didn't pay his way onto the force, but it creates what seems to be a fair question as to whether that's really true. >> we lawyers have a phrase called the appearance of impropriety. it looks like he bought his way onto the police force. getting to this issue you raised quite rightfully before. his being 73 years of age, reflexes, fast reflexes in the apprehension of a criminal
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suspect very important thing for a police officer to have. i don't think a 73-year-old man has those reflexes and i think it was reflected in part in what happened in this case. >> reflexes stop dropping off before, which is part of the reason most of these police officers start to retire decades before that. mark bates' attorney also said it was the victim. the victim forced the 73-year-old to act because he basically forced himself into that situation. i know that you actually have been focusing on one other thing. one of the other officers on the video, you hear him and the suspect says i can't breathe. i can't breathe, after he's been shot. this officer says f your breath. does this whole situation, you have white cops you have a black man being shot. we haven't talked about race here. do you think we should be? >> we absolutely should. and to be clear, any case of excessive force could be explained away by saying if the criminal hadn't done x, why wouldn't that have happened? if he wouldn't have gotten out of bed, he wouldn't have been
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shot. you can always make that argument, but the bigger point is how is this person treated. excessive force seemed to have been used here almost indisputably so. do i think this man pulled out a gun and said i'm going to shoot a black guy? absolutely not. was he well intention? absolutely. but in the psyches of people blad people tend to be read as more dangerous. a study showed police tend to look at young men as older and more dangerous than they really are, older and more guilty than they really are. >> i think it's unfortunate to jump to a conclusion that all of these shootings are race based. there are legitimate ones and there's no evidence of it here. i look at these cases and say if i was trying to prove a hate crime here was there evidence of a hate crime? what would you offer in court? i don't see anything except one of the officers was white and the victim was black. that doesn't prove a case. >> you both have fair points.
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>> to be clear, i'm not saying this is a hate crime, number two, and number two, i didn't say all of these were race based. >> we're talking about this case. is there evidence -- no mark is there evidence in this case of race? >> what i said is we should investigate to see if there is evidence of racism. we can't dismiss race out of hand. i don't think that's unreasonable. >> i haven't seen anything mark i haven't seen anything in all the facts that have come out that supports a claim that there was racial bias here. if you have seen something so far, i would go along with you. it could be a race case. i just haven't seen it so far. >> the reason is the way we assess race cases is to say did this person have the intent of shooting a black person. it's something more nuanced and hopefully we can take about it. >> it's a fair point. it's more nuanced and people are not always doing it on purpose but it's in the back of their minds. thanks to both. breaking news video you
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breaking news tonight. shocking video just in from arizona. this is of a police officer using his cruiser to take out a suspect. i want to warn you, this video is graphic. it's going to jolt you when you see it the first time. but i want you to know when you do watch it the man you see in this does survive. >> stay off. man down. >> the video shows that officer striking mario valent yeah, the su suspect in a recent string of robberies. earlier in the video, there's an apparent gunshot we also heard. miguel marquez is "outfront." watching that from the actual dashcam video of the cruiser that hit that man is hard to watch. you do it's scary and you feel jolted. walk us through it. >> it's hard to watch, but i
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think any of us if the man, who was a 36-year-old, was walking down the street and doing what police say he did and that we can see on other dashcam video, there were several police cars on the scene that day. one of them it's not clear who is speaking but i want to show you a clip here of another police car not the one you showed leading into this but another police car who appears to be giving orders and concerned that mr. valencia who has just shot off a riefrl shot in front of police that other officers may be headed into an ambush. watch this. >> one round just went out. into the sky. it's unlocked now. it's definitely loaded. be prepared. >> suspect shooting or did you shoot? >> negative i did not shoot. unit right there, stand off,
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stand off. the gun is loaded. unit stay off. oh. man down. >> it is probably more disturbing to see that piece of video because you can see mr. valencia fly into the air. he was taken to the hospital. he has been released. he's also charged with at least 15 different counts. it was a crime spree that began in tucson just south of morana a town along i-10 between phoenix and tucson. among others things, he robbed a 7-eleven early in the morning, set fire to a church broke into a house unknown to him, and then he stole a car. later in the day, he went to milan milana stole a rifle from walmart, was aiming it boat at his own head and firing it into the air in front of police. that's why when the police chief has just said that they aren't
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going to monday morning quarterback this. the individual was close to home close to the doorways another 10 or 15 seconds, the police chief says it could have been a national tragedy. erin. >> all right, miguel thank you very much. i want to bring in eugene o'donnell. former nypd officer. okay you watched those videos from both perspectives from the cruiser as you see the one zoom by and hit mr. valencia and from the actual cruiser who hit him. when you watch this and you ask yourself the question of was this appropriate, was this excessive, what do you think? >> it's ugly and it's improvised and this is what the police do. they're not trained to use a car to stop the guy, but they have to figure it out in real time. if they can not take his life and save the lives of others and he only ends up injured, it's imperfect and not good ending but it could have been a much worse ending. >> i'm saying this as a lay person watching the video, it doesn't look like whether the guy speeding up cared if he
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lived or died. >> remains to be seen. he was armed and turned around with a weapon that probably would have cost him his life. the cops will get no points for doing a pretty thing, but they may have actually saved his life. in that sense, they deserve credit for that. >> mr. vulens raw, who as we said has been charged with 15 counts, armed robbery, and we saw he had the gun, you saw him shoot it in the air. there's no question was he armed or was it loaded. the answer is yes. his attorney tells cnn everything in the video seems to point toward an obvious excessive use of force. officers didn't take into account his mental state. he didn't want to hurt anyone. my client's back was turned the officer drove into him. isn't that similar to an officer shooting a fleeing suspect in a back. obviously he's referring to the south carolina situation. this man was walking, not running, and had his back to the car. >> if you're a police officer who can avoid taking a life you can deal with that in civil court. as long as you are clear of your
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>> unbelievable this has happened so quickly. >> that's when the town erupted. >> i think we have an image to protect. >> definitely put the pressure on. >> everyone is playing every. >> they're going to have a target painted on their back. >> that is a real threat. >> $2 billion to be had next year. i plan to take more than my fair share. >> high profits, series premiere sunday night at 10:00. "outfront" next passenger jets in the sky at risk. a new report says terrorists can take them down using just a laptop. a plane crash lands today. the airline is one of the world's top rated and respected. this has happened before, and we have a live report.
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breaking news tonight. a government report warns that a terrorist could bring down a passenger plane with just a laptop and wi-fi. according to the government accountable office there are hundreds of planes in service right now that are vulnerable, including boeing's new dreamliner, the 787. the report says hackers could use the plane's wi-fi to break their way into a flight's control system.
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and commandeer an aircraft. aviation correspondent rene marsh is "outfront" in washington. this is a terrifying report when you read through it because among many things, the hacker doesn't actually even have to be onboard the plane to take it down. >> absolutely right, erin. this report says that these airplanes are connected to the internet, and the planes are basically flying routers which can be compromised by someone who is on the plane or someone who is on the ground. now, this is all based on interviews with cybersecurity experts aviation experts. they essentially all agree that using a laptop someone in theory, as you mentioned, could commandeer an aircraft, put a virus into the flight control computers. jeopardize the safety of the flight by taking control of the plane's computers, or they could even take over warning systems or even navigational systems. the report also explains that you know as the air traffic control system is upgraded to
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use more internet based technology both on the ground and in planes the avionics of these aircraft can be compromised. we do know that older planes they're not as highly connected to the internet so the risk is a lot less for aircraft 20 years and older. i do want to bring up one thing. one of lawmakers who requested this study, this is congressman defazio. he essentially says this to cnn. what needs to happen now is that the faa has to focus on aircraft certification standards that would essentially prevent a terrorist group from using a laptop either onboard or on the ground and take control of the airplane. he ends his statement by saying this is extremely alarming. erin. >> it certainly is that. thank you very much. "outfront" now, aviation analyst mary sceauvovo, also transportation director. extremely alarming, i would say,
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is a downbeat way of describing this. how serious a threat it is that someone could use wifito commandeer a jet. some of the most sophisticated in the world, the new dreamliner 787. >> the newer the plane, the better the plane, this report makes it most alarming to those models. what is important about the gao report is that this is the second in a series of reports. they did the first one in january. and in january, they found that the faa had failed to take this into consideration in building their new air traffic control system, which is wonderful if it's ever finished but it relies on satellite and computer interfacing to fly around the world seamlessly. so now the second part says and not only did the faa not take into consideration cybersecurity and developing this system and putting up good firewalls in air traffic control. they haven't looked at the aircraft and made sure that the aircraft can withstand cyber cyber attacks. so the alarm now is for the government to go back and apply
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these standards and really develop a threat model so they can defend against it. >> it's scary because the report says it's possible. this is one of the key things i noticed. someone on the plane or on the ground could hack into the flight control systems. to me that's a game changer in a lot of waz, not least of which is the fact a terrorist can take down a jet without having to be onboard. without having to be willing to kill yourself to do it. not like 9/11 where they had to get past security and go through that process and be willing to die themselves. doesn't that raise the risk there would be a lot more people wanting to try this? >> absolutely. raises the risk exponentially and globally because so much relies on this satellite-based system, and literally, on the fact that it is a flying router. and because of that it's not just in the united states, but it's literally potentially limitless. someone intends on doing harm could reach aircraft around the world through the satellite and wireless systems. >> which is scary. you know, i was on a flight from asia that had wi-fi all the way,
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which they didn't used to be able to do. now you can be over the pacific or the north pole and you have the internet. and people want that. they will pick planes that provide that. but airlines market themselves based on that access. is there any solution really other than saying you know what? take it off. no wi-fi. >> well there's going to have to be a solution because our entire worldwide air traffic control system has gone too far down this pike. next the air traffic control system that started all this off is that's what we have gone to already. so at this point, sounding the alarm bell is very important because the faa and the nations of the world have to defend against this and come up with these firewalls. this is hugely important. they need to do it now before someone is able to actually carry out this kind of an attack. >> very frightening report. mary thank you very much. >> we're following another airline tonight. an asiana airline flight skidding on the runway.
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almost 200 people onboard. two dozen injured. they're investigating now reports that the plane may have hit something. this is one of the world's top rated airlines one of its supposedly more luxurious and safest, but it's not its first disastrous landing. one was roish here in the united states, and will ripley is "outfront." >> a terrifying end to asiana airlines flight 162. in the final seconds of an hour and ten minute flight from south korea to japan, this airbus a320 overshot the runway turning a full 180 degrees. the plane with visible damage carrying eight crew members and 73 frightened passengers, including an infant. >> it was kind of shocking seeing. >> the japanese transportation ministry tells cnn at least 23 people have minor injuries. the accident occurred tuesday night. one passenger says it felt like the plane was speeding just before landing. >> the plane came in very fast.
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it hit the runway and just exploded. seems like the wheels broke. >> investigators are looking into early reports the airliner may have hit an antenna on the runway. airbus is also investigating. ashiana is the same airline that suffered a disastrous landing in san francisco in 2013. flight 214's pilot botched the approach and landing of this boeing 777, killing three people and injured 187 others. the crash raised serious safety questions about pilot training and procedure and asia's booming airline industry. this latest hard landing is the sixth serious incident involving asian-based airlines in the past 13 months including february's crash of transasia flight 235. pilots turned off the wrong engine, sending the plane careening over a taiwan bridge. 43 people died. it's still too soon to know if pilot error played a role in
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japan, the latest air scare in a region rattled by aviation disasters. >> pretty scary. when you think about some of these cases, so clearly pilot error. in san francisco, pilot error. tiaiwan taiwan, pilot error. it was a very bad weather. >> yeah japan has had record rainfall in recent days erin. however, at the time of this crash, it was not raining at the hiroshima airport and there were right winds which is wi they're looking at the pilot, the trujiktry of the plane when it went down. and we got new information. they're saying 27 people were hurt here. there were two americans on the flight. and to think of all these repeated incidents in the last 13 months it is frightening for passengers who are flying here knowing that new pileots are being hired all the time and these takeoffs and landings the most dangerous time of the flight when there's a chance something can go wrong. >> when something has gone wrong in each of these cases. will thank you very much. reporting live from tokyo.
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>> "outfront" next hillary clinton post-chipotle. i said it right tonight. she hit the trail in iowa today. will the new hillary sell? our live report. plus new images of one of the most mysterious women in the world tonight. we have a special report of a surprising woman married to kim jong-un. my constipation and belly pain feel like a raging storm. i've tried laxatives but my symptoms keep returning. my constipation feels like a heavy weight that keeps coming back. vo: linzess can help. once-daily linzess treats adults with
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hillary clinton wrapping up her first official day on the campaign trail and her first stop was a coffee shop in a small town in iowa. dressed for spring. then a roundtable conversation add a community college. john king is "outfront." you know john i felt guilty commenting on our clothe but it's part of the image. an edgy young look she had going on. different than the 2008 campaign. she speaks to 1400 people in a high skl. big group, and the pearls okay. very different. this time small, low-key events. things you would normally see from a candidate who doesn't have many. she does have pearls on but they're smaller. somehow better. can this tactic work? >> will it work is a different question than can it work. we'll know that answer in six months or 19 months if she's the nominee of the democratic party. can it work? yes, it can.
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why? because it's what she wants. she hasn't asked anyone for their vote since she lost in 2008. she wants to get back into the environment, she wants to look like she's listening more than lecturing. this is what the people of iowa like. it becomes a cliche people say i like her but i only met her once. some of that is a joke some of it is cliche but some is the culture of iowa. look there's a tv ad crew following her around. there's reporters following her around. the big speeches will come when she lays out her policy proposals and the like. this is what she wants. it's well scripted well controlled. it works for her at the moment. >> here's my question. you bring up they have a tv crew following them around for ads and reporters, 20 or more. can she sustain that level of interest? i mean to me this is the thing. you're 19 months out. how can you sustain day to day
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interest that high? >> it is part of the challenge. now, when she goes into the small towns. she's both a politician and a celebrity. she has pop culture and political and this media environment. so she's unique in that way. she will always have attention. part of the attention is trying to see if she trips up if she makes a mistake. for now, yes, i bet she would dream in i'll join you in the post-chipotle error, she would dream of going to a place like chipotle and having nobody recognize her, but that's not going to exist. she's out there now. note on this front, what is she talking about? she talked today about the economy. she went to a community college she wants to do things that work. she's being very smart. she's talking about jobs. what are liberals saying? we want somebody to talk about the economy, about jobs and she also told the washington post today she'll soon have a new campaign finance plan something that progressives want a lot of independents want that. she was beat on the left in iowa
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in 2008 by barack obama, largely because of iraq. she's making sure there's no room to her left in this race. >> that's going to be interesting how that plays in the general. we usually ask about the republicans they're going too far right. thanks so much to john king the man who knows more about that than anybody when he's covering these candidates. up next the kate middleton of north korea. kim jong-un's wife new and rare pictures and our special report. and jeanne moos with zeke. clearly, zeke is not happy. but you will never guess why.
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style. she often sports designer items. for example, take a look at this. this is a christian dior handbag. it is worth $1600. which is important because it was 31 times the monthry salary of the impoverished average north korean. paula is out front with tonight's money and power. >> in a country often cloaked in secrecy north korea's first lady is its mystery woman. these are the first images of ri since almost four months ago, reportedly cheering alongside her husband at a soccer match. in stock >> she's a beautiful woman. she's our generation. she wants to somehow through her fashion, style she wants to bring reform to north korea. >> her public appearances are
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rare. some speculated she was being punished her transgression, not wearing the official north korean label pin. she also disappeared when reports of a possible pregnancy appeared and later when done is rodman appeared from a visit with kim jong-un kim jong-un. >> she's my friend. >> he let slip that he held their previously unannounced baby a girl named jua. she thought to be 25-30 years old and studied singing in china and visiting south korea in 2005 as part of a cheerleading squad. and speaking of squad, there is no word on her reaction to a south korean newspaper that her husband has reinstituted the pleasure squad, teams of women
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available to serve the supreme leader every whim. >> and this pleasure squad is unbelievable unbelievable. but today was a big day for the family of north korea. >> this is the big day of the north korean calendar. this is the anniversary of the birthday of kim jong-un, the grandfather of north korea. so everybody in north korea has the day off effectively. but they are expected to pay tribute to the man they credit with founding this country. now we will expect some festivities, we could see the highly choreographed military parades and the ceremony that north korea is so well-known for. we could see some unexpected surprised, observers and those in washington watching very closely to see if there are test firing rocket launches or anything like that. remember a few years ago they
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attempted a satellite launch on the day of the birth. that failed but just that they tried to breaking u.s. sanctions is a big day. so a very big day here in north korea. >> thank you very much paula hang dock. and now bruce clinger, who worked in the cia as deputy chief of the korea division. when i spoke to the defector this is someone who knew what it is like to live in north korea and fled north korea and had a reverence saying she is of our referation and an icon and in her appearing and her popularity? >> on one hand there are like that defector saying she is admired and a signal of reform but other defectors with access to friends still in north korea, will say there is recentment. --
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resentment. saying she is wearing clothes that are more effective than several years of working. and when kim jong-un came to power there was indication was this a thought that kim jong-un would be different from his father. but the bloom is off that rose. we've seen that he's just as resistant to reform as his predecessor and just as bridge bridge -- belligerent to the neighbors. but with his father we never saw him with his wife. we don't see pictures but every few months. but she is so pretty and very well-dressed. >> just so different. just the fact they have public pictures of her. she is different from the predecessors. just as kim jong-un is different in his public appearances is trying to recreate that north korean people had an affinity for his grandfather that they didn't have for his father.
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hillary's announcement video when suddenly what went running down zeke's cheeks were tears. >> i wanted to run for president. >> take it out and tell us. >> i wanted to run for president. >> it's official. he just threw his pacifier into the ring. zeke for president. >> do you think you're ready to be president? >> yeah. >> zeke's parents used to be in politics long time friends of the clintons. >> has he talked about this before? >> he is not one of the things we've talked about. he's only three. >> what would you do if you were president? >> play with toys. >> now that is an agenda that could unite the country. >> do you think you could do that when you are older? >> no. >> no. >> that sounds familiar. >> i'm heard some suggest i should step aside and wait my
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turn. >> no. >> zeke is not eligible to run for president for another 32 years. >> can you imagine if he ended up running for something? >> oh, my goodness. the personality on this kid, i wouldn't doubt it. he would grow up and talk to anyone. >> sure you have to lose the pacifier on the campaign trail. there were biting comments about that. this kid is too old for a pacifier. pacifiers caught overbites, but hey, if it is good newspaper for vice president biden. the last time we have a toddler meltdown was back in 2012. >> i'm tired of barack obama and mitt romney. >> but zeke isn't sick of the candidates. he wants to be one of them. vote for zeke! pass ify america. jenny jenny moose, cnn. >> so sweet.
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you have to say, if he does run for anything that video will be sure to help out. and people layoff people with the pacifier criticism. get a life. be sure to join us to watch "outfront." ac360 starts now. >> graphic video, a shot fired and then this. a police department involved see what you see here saved the gunman's life. a police car saving a man's life. we'll show you more of the video. and also more the educators behind a massive school-cheating scandal and the judge today who threw the book at them. >> everybody in the education system at aps knew that cheating was going on and your client promoted it. >> we'll have more on what the judge said. we begin with the
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