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attentive, focused jury throughout the two plus months. that would be my observation of them. and i respect that. that was what was necessary, especially in a case of this length. this isn't a week trial. this is two and a half months. some of them were selected the first or second week of january. so i have great respect for their attention and focus during this trial. >> does your office expect an appeal beyond the automatic -- >> first-degree murder is the automatic appeal. beyond that i would have -- i wouldn't know. >> do you intend to fully prosecute the two other men charged with murder in this case. >> they're co-defendants, their matters are coming up for review next month and the prosecution of them will go forward. >> is there changes theoretically to the agreement now that the joint venture theory held up? >> i would say this i don't really want to get involved in talking about the other two co-defendants because those are pending cases.
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you sat through the evidence in the case. that's all hypothetical. i think we want to focus on this case and the successful conclusion of it. >> anything about the judge's order asking ursula not to cry on the stand? something you can talk about when now after it's over? >> well i think the judge conducted a fair and orderly proceeding. i think that i see victims and witnesses become emotional on the stand throughout trials and i think it's appropriate if it's -- if it's natural and not done in a way that would detract from her it testimony, it would be appropriate for her to express her emotions when she testifies. >> mr. quinn -- >> the judge threw out a lot of evidence you brought. obviously at the time that hurt your case. going forward that theoretically
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helps the appealable issue. the appealable issue -- >> any evidence that was excluded is not going to be the subject of an appeal. the appellate process takes care of itself. automatic appeal first-degree murder. that's for another day. we feel that we tried a good case and presented the evidence in an appropriate and proper fashion. >> do you -- [ inaudible ] aaron hernandez gets it got it today when that verdict was read? >> i don't know. i think when they put -- when you are taken away and they say life in prison without parole someone's got to respond to that. there's got to be some response but i don't know if he gets it. >> prepared for the possibility -- >> the d.a. -- evidence has been garnered in the new charges? >> suffolk has their pending cases, has their case pending, they're dealing with it. certainly it if there's any information that we have that could be of assistance we'll
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work with them. >> can we hear from mr. mccullough? >> you can. >> i don't have much to say substantively about the case, but i did just want to thank the jury for the verdict. it's obviously been a long trial and it was quite, i'm sure an inconvenience for them in their lives to commit this kind of time. we felt we had their attention every day, both the prosecution and the defense. fairly considered the evidence. they've returned a verdict that's supported by that evidence. so we're very grateful for their commitment and odin lloyd's family these ladies here who you saw sitting in the front row every day, they were committed to seeing this thing through and for trusting in the process and trusting that the jury would deliver a fair verdict and i think they're very satisfied with that. we're very grateful and actually
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drew strength from their commitment be to show up every day and let the process play out as it would. so i'm very grateful for the jury and also as you will recall when we started the case we had just lost our district attorney who went on to be the mayor of this great city. and i wanted to thank, again, the governor and lieutenant governor for the appointment of thomas quinn. he was absolutely the right man for the job. and he was part of the team and it was important to keep the team intact because we had come so far working on the case and it really has been a team effort and i'm very grateful for all the agencies that have been involved in this and i couldn't even name them all for you, it would take too long. obviously the chief of north atle borrow is here with us and the state police but this was a
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multistate investigation and there was so many agencies who committed time and resources and personnel to follow up on leads for us and our partners suffolk county d.a.'s office u.s. attorney's office the atf, et cetera. good results. just results come from collaborative efforts by agencies working together and that's what happened in this case. so i'm very grateful for that. >> tell me about the challenge of putting all of that evidence together in a comprehensive way to the jury? >> it -- at the end of the case you see the district attorney's office the prosecutors, i said this earlier inside to part of the people involved a thousand hands touched this case and at the end of the case we're standing here and it would have been an impossible task for me alone to have handled all the evidence trying to bring it all together. i've had great assistance pat,
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brian, the officers assigned to the case jeremiah gone don know van, jennifer pursele someone who workses in our office really the one who pulled it all together for us. so too many people to thank. i think they know who they are. but never could have done it without, again, we're here at the end, but there's so many people who are -- have contributed to the success of this case and we're very grateful because we know it brings some small measure of peace to the family and the homicides are the most serious cases that we deal with. but the idea that somebody was targeted in this case i think you heard the evidence 35 people who went to that scene before anybody knew who was involved. they were have from a variety of agencies there doing their job. homicides, there have been a commitment by this district attorney and sam sutter the prior district attorney to fully investigate every homicide.
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we've done that in this case and every other case. i'm proud of the work that goes into these cases. again we never get to this result without the commitment of so many people. i'm grateful to that. >> bill you -- >> bill -- >> you had -- bill -- >> [ inaudible ]. this family very well decision like this feel personal in a way? >> it's definitely personal. i have gotten to know this family and again, we -- we myself drew strength from just the dignity and the class and the commitment that they showed to let this go out and there's a responsibility that we have to make sure that we do everything [ inaudible ]. and while i'm talking about that i just wanted to thank my family and i know i speak for everybody else, people -- people make sacrifices. we made a sacrifice because we're committed to seeing this
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thing through and as a result our families wives, kids significant others sometimes we're not there for them and -- but i'm very grateful to them because they understand that we've been so blessed in our lives and when something, some tragedy like this happens to another family we're committed to trying do everything we can and that sometimes means we have to make sacrifices so this has been a wonderful family to get to know and odin lloyd, he was a special person. everything i've heard about him he the he don't make young men like that. he was -- didn't a father that story i heard early on about the last occasion he had to see his mother really touched us. that he was saying, you know happy father's day because he didn't have a father in his life and it was his mother who raised him and raised him to be the kind of person who was
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respectful and appreciated what he had. you heard his uncle vaughn say he couldn't give him anything. he wanted to earn it. he rode his bike every day to work as a landscaper. i think it was a great contrast between two young men, the defendant, who had so much so much ability, so much talent money, all the things that everyone thinks you need and then you had odin lloyd who didn't want that given to him, he was going to earn it. he didn't have the athletic talent but he loved football and continued to play football and that's the kind of person he was. so yes, i did get to know this family and that made it easier for us to commit what we thought we had to commit to bring this result about. >> did you have a sense it was going to be close when that verdict was read? >> we had great confidence in the case we put together and any time you charge somebody with a homicide you don't make that decision lightly. this decision wasn't made
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lightly. we intended to see the case through and so when we charged him we believed in the case and obviously there was -- the evidence you've heard the evidence. the jury agreed with that. >> bill no murder weapon no eyewitness but you stood up there in closing arguments and pointed at aaron hernandez and said he pulled the trigger. talk to me about where your confidence in that statement comes from? >> i'm not going to -- i appreciate the question. it's a very good question. but we're respectful of where we are in the case. one defendant who's been tried, two to go. it, obviously, was a circumstantial case and a joint venture that we argued to the jury and i'm not going to say too much more because these other cases have to play out and well obviously. >> two more questions. >> two more. >> bill how -- >> heard guilty?
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>> quite a relief. and again, part of this there's a personal component but what we're doing in our jobs is we're the front person and have so many people who are counting on us to bring about a successful result. there's the family that i want to bring some measure of peace to them and some closure, but there's the team that we respect represent all the people that work so hard. it's not something i take lightly. it was quite a great relief to hear the jury to have them acknowledge what we believe to be the case that aaron hernandez committed the murder of odin lloyd. >> looking back at the trial how did the status as a patriots player impact you and present challenges to you as a prosecutor? >> i think the district attorney hit it right on the head. this case was not about the patriot player. this was just about a murder
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occurring, a brutal senseless murder and this defendant, aaron hernandez, should be treated like anyone else. we impanelled a jury and asked those questions, can you treat him like any other citizen, and really grateful that i didn't think that played into the case. the celebrity aspect of it. again, i'll second my appreciation to you, the media, for the respect and the restraint you showed us the family. i know you're here to do a job, but the process worked and it worked because it wasn't -- there wasn't a circus-like atmosphere to the presentation of this case. that was important. and i think the jurors were professional they didn't -- they focused on the evidence they showed up they were serious about it and that shows in their verdict. thank you very much. >> family members -- >> all three in the car -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> i didn't catch that. >> when you arrest you only charged him, three nen the in
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the car. >> i'm sorry i can't answer that question. i'm going to turn it over. thank you very much. >> ladies can we hear your reaction? >> and right now, we are seeing ursula ward the woman there in purple and here comes odin lloyd's sister his younger sister who also spoke passionately. >> i would like to say thank you, again, as my mom said to the jurors and to what we call our dream team behind us who's put so much work into seeing this through. thank you for everyone who's reached out to us. mail social networks prayers. people letting us know they were there for us. as i said before in my impact statement, it kind of doesn't feel like we're here. we're living in a dream world and then still have to face reality where it doesn't seem like odin is not here. it just seems like a day we haven't had a chance to speak to
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him. i don't think that we will ever come to grips with the fact that he's not here. somebody that you're used to seeing every day, somebody that you're used to speaking to someone just who calls just to say they're -- you know what are you doing, i don't think that anyone can actually grasp the fact and we'll never be able to sit and actually come to grips that he's not here. it's just, you know another day that odin isn't here and it's another day that family has to deal with. >> how are you guys [ inaudible ] staying so strong? >> prayers. prayers and each other. we come from a strong knit family and this has just brought us stronger together.
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to hear i love you every day from your mom or sister or cousin who calls just to let you know that, you know they're there for you, i don't think there's any other way we could have gotten through it. >> able the forgiveness that your mom -- >> i'm not as strong as my mom yet. that time will come. >> you just -- >> describe how you felt -- [ inaudible ]. >> unfortunately, i wasn't able to sit in court when the verdict was read. i was on my way here. but it was a sign of relief. i screamed. i cried. and then the first person that called me was my sister and the first thing she said in tears was i love you. that was the best feeling that we've had in a long time. >> can you talk about shaneah's kekship? she's been here most of the day sitting next to her. >> i bring her here because i
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love her like she's my sister and anybody that knows, i go on vacations with her, she's not that talkative. she's definitely a member of the family and my mom always says her girls and her girls were for shahkela shaneah and i. >> that's what brought you together? >> yes. >> i love her because she loved odin and i know odin loved her. >> you said she's not a talker but i have to ask, how [ inaudible ]. >> no comment. >> thank you. >> olivia one more -- can you say anything about how shakeila felt about not being able to tell -- >> and the family right now, walking away. they have said their peace. ursula ward saying the thing she'll miss most about her son the smile, the d.a. thomas quinn spoke, the prosecutor many thought had an uphill battle so much of the evidence was circumstantial but he said the verdict was quite a relief and then you heard from odin lloyd's
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sister. very powerful. in court she reminded the judge that since his death, both she and her sister have each had children children that odin lloyd will never know and she said i now have to go to his grave and look at his tomb stone to tell him i love him. joining me is cnn correspondent jean casarez, who's been following up on this case and jean what's fascinating is the defense tried to make it seem as if aaron hernandez was simply along for the ride he had no role in this but it seems the jury bought the prosecution argument not only was he a along for the ride he was the one who was the ring leader the one at the wheel of the car, the one who got the gun, who also called his friends and then essentially carried out this murder. >> that is really the definition of a circumstantial case right, because they had the text messages they had the telephone pinging, the video surveillance inside the house that we see now that jurors believe he was
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holding that gun. you know early on in this case one of the jurors was dismissed because she said there's not a murder weapon and without a murder weapon i can't convict someone. well this jury today said they didn't need that murder weapon. that they looked at the other evidence and that was all they needed. deb, i also want to tell you that while aaron hernandez was being sentenced we got word from the suffolk county district attorney's office it's not over yet for aaron hernandez, and there was a trial date of may 28th for this double murder that he's been charged with in boston. they are now continuing that date but they also say in the next few weeks, in the coming days they will announce a new date for aaron hernandez to be tried on double murder within the commonwealth of massachusetts. >> that's interesting because the double murder some say, in fact one of the reasons odin lloyd may have been killed was because he knew about hernandez's role in that murder. it's going to be very interesting to see how that case plays out as well. there's going to be a lot more
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on aaron hernandez tonight on cnn and thank you, jean casarez, tonight on cnn "downward spiral inside the case against aaron hernandez" will air tonight 9:00 on cnn. i'm deborah feyerick. thank for sticking with us. wolf blitzer picks up after a quick break. ® driver. i'm kevin nealon comedian. and i'm arnold palmer, professional golfer. know what we have in common? we talked to our doctors about treatment with xarelto®. me, when i had a blood clot in my leg that could have traveled to my lungs. that's why i took xarelto®, too. xarelto® is proven to treat and help reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots. i took xarelto® for afib... an irregular heartbeat that can lead to a stroke from a blood clot. xarelto® is proven to reduce the risk of stroke in people with afib, not caused by a heart valve problem. hey, well i'm glad we got together. for people with afib currently well managed on warfarin there is limited information on how xarelto® and warfarin compare in reducing the risk of stroke. i tried warfarin before, but the blood testing routine
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everything you're hearing right now to falling and how devastating would that be for the iraqi military and the iraqi government a huge embarrassment as haider al abadi, the prime minister happens to be in washington this week? >> a huge embarrassment perhaps, yes, wolf but at the same time it underscores what it is that he is asking the united states for and that is more military support, more coalition a air strikes, and much more assistance. we were out in anbar province today, we were actually trying to reach ramadi. we coordinated our trip with the deputy head of the provençal council. we were unable to reach the city because in the morning isis had assaulted from the east. speaking to the deputy provincial council, he was begging for help. he was saying that the city was going to fall within hours and we came across a mass of refugees wolf i don't know how to put it into accurate words,
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the expressions on their face of complete and total shock. they were trying to cross a bridge from anbar province that would put them into baghdad province a bridge you are not allowed to cross in vehicles. everybody was on foot. a lot of people piling their belongings their children intoes these metal carts. a woman sitting inside one of these carts as we approached her she just xwan sobbing saying isis assaulted us isis forced us from our homes. another man that we spoke to clutching his two little children and they brought nothing with them because they ran out so quickly because he said isis commandeered his home for a fighting position. they placed a sniper on his rife grabbed his kids and wife and ran out. masses of people trying to flee this latest onslaught. ramadi almost entirely under siege at this stage. commanders officers police chiefs tribal fighters all of them wolf asking begging for
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reinforcements begging for more coalition air strikes. none of which have arrived in a significant way at this stage. if that assistance does not arrive ramadi yes, we are being told could fall very shortly. those who are there still fighting to try to push isis out. they cannot hold out indefinitely. especially not at this stage. military assistance must arrive. otherwise we're going to see many more refugees being forced to flee. the areas isis is moving into they are not areas that have been vacated. they are areas where people are living children are living and without military assistance a lot of lives are going to be lost at this stage, not to mention the city itself as well wolf. >> arwa, what an awful situation unfolding in the anbar province given the history of the american troops who lost their lives in the original battles over a decade. the billions hundreds of
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billions of dollars the u.s. spent so tragic to see what's going on right now. what a waste for so many people as they look back at what's going on right now. be careful over there. i want to continue our conversation on the turn of events. horrible turn of events in iraq. the request, the latest request by the iraqi government for additional military assistance. the prime minister is here meeting with the president hader al abadi. joining us from new york is our cnn global affairs analyst, managing editor of quartz from los angeles the former delta force commander retired lieutenant colonel reese. you spent a month in iraq. where is the iraqi military? they were trained by the united states. the u.s. left billions of dollars of hardware there. and they sim ply are m.i.a. they can't even protect their own people in the anbar province in ramadi? what happened to the iraqi military? >> well wolf right now the iraqi military that was -- has
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the ability to do the work was used initially up in tikrit and right now engaged in hawiga between tikrit and kirkuk. major oil refinery up there, which is a critical piece of infrastructure for the iraqis. you know out in al a anbar, we've watched this for years out there, with the sunnis out there, the sunni triangle we've got the u.s. forces that are out there, in al anbar province doing the training at the air fields out there. one of the biggest issues right now that i see is that arwa reported is and we watched this for last month, what isis was doing, they have cut off, attacking from the east which literally puts a barrier between baghdad and blocks off the rest of the anbar province. so the reinforcements able it to come in from the east from baghdad and other areas, is now cut off which may just -- makes a major concern which is going
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to have to have the coalition put in some major bombing in there to allow reinforcements to get in there if they can. right now, the iraqis just have so many going in different directions. they have to pick a main effort and go that way. >> here's one of the problems i see, i've spoken to a lot of military analysts on the situation, the iraqi military is a huge military at least 300,000 troops half of them, though don't show up they simply run away and when they do show up they can't deal with a few thousand isis fighters who come in take control of a city like mosul, 2 millen there. they abandon all their u.s. military equipment. isis troops are now driving around in left behind u.s. humvees and armored vehicles. and tanks. why should the u.s. provide more military equipment to an iraqi military that is m.i.a.? >> there's clearly a huge motivation. the isis fighters are fighting
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for however perverted it is a cause and are willing to die. the iraqi military as we saw last year didn't even have faith in their own leadership and their own government and didn't have much to fight for. as colonel reese pointed out, there is now a core in the military that is capable of taking the fight to isis. we saw that in tikrit. the challenge now is to grow that corps. it's not -- there's clearly not enough. even that corps that took tikrit needed american air support, iranian on the ground support, needed shiite militias to help them. that corps needs to be now made larger more and more training. there is no shortcut and the trouble is, of course that for every success like tikrit there is always the possibility that isis will swing in a different direction and make a grab for another piece of it territory and take away the momentum that the iraqi military is being built. it's not going to happen any time soon but that training
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exercise has to continue. otherwise there literally is no other way out. >> here's one of the concerns a lot of u.s. military planners have suggested to me colonel reese, as i said you were just there for a month, you know the situation, if the u.s. does go ahead and provide more apache helicopters, battle tanks, humvees, other equipment, sophisticated equipment, to the iraq -- they don't know if it's going to wind up in the hands of the iraqi military because so much of that u.s. military equipment has already been abandoned. are you confident that the u.s. if it does sell or provide such hardware to the iraqi military it will be secure and not wind up in the hands of isis or shiite militias for that matter who are very close to the government there in baghdad? >> well wolf one of the issues right now, there's no question the american advisors are there, have a great ability. right now, they're up in t a aji and down in besmya doing great training with the sophisticated
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weapons, both on air and, you know your tanks and your big weapons systems. but again, one of the things we have to take a look at is while we're going through this training like bobby said we have to build a corps, continue to put up. we as americans if we tell the iraqis that says hey, you can't allow the pmu or some of the shia militias to get involved which were, you know,s the badder corps, very critical in tikrit with the federal police that did a great job in tikrit but if we force them out it could be a major, you know, impact on securing some of the major cities. i also had the opportunity to talk to some guys that i know in the military there and some of the leadership in the embassy and one of the things they're trying to help the iraqis do is try to connect the tail at the end. the head is out there fighting but the iraqis are having problems with their logistics and their trains and getting those -- getting that equipment pushed up.
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and they're trying to help them with those pieces but we can't do it for them. the iraqis got to figure that piece out. i'm getting the support up to the front lines and if they don't they're going to fail. >> all right. thanks very much. it's an awful situation over there. seems to be deteriorating by the hour as we speak. guys thanks very much. james reese, bobby go always good to get your perspective. still ahead, more perspective. senator risch about to join us. he's been meeting here in washington with the iraqi prime minister and the iraqi prime minister has been a peeling for u.s. aid. senator risch, come on in as soon as we come back from our commercial we'll discuss what you heard from the iraqi prime minister. [meow mix jingle slowly and quietly plucks] right on cue. [cat meows] ♪meow, meow, meow, meow...♪ it's more than just a meal it's meow mix mealtime. with great taste and 100% complete nutrition, it's the only one cats ask for by name.
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the iraqi prime minister haider al abadi is here in washington he had his first official visit with the president on tuesday. you see him in the oval office. he's talking to lawmakers on capitol hill appealing for more u.s. military economic support, military support in the fight against isis. meanwhile, iraqi residents are fleeing in huge numbers right now from their homes in ramadi elsewhere in the anbar province. only about 70 miles or so from baghdad as you can see a wave of people they are trying to escape on foot. they're trying to escape a few thousand isis fighters who have moved in and the iraqi military at least right now fully incapable of dealing with the isis fighters. the idaho republican senator james risch is a member of the senate foreign relations committee joining us now. thanks for coming in.
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>> thank you. >> you're a member of the intelligence committee and you came here to our cnn studios directly from a meeting you and other members have had with the iraqi prime minister. did he make a compelling case to provide another $200 million in u.s. economic assistance to iraq and to provide military hardware including apache helicopters, tanks, other sophisticated weapons to that military? >> well, wolf the piece you just did makes a compelling case for the fact that there are no good answers here. there are no good choices here. it's the least bad choice that you have to make. i think the photography that you have shows what a human tragedy is going on in ramadi. i heard the prime minister less than an hour ago say, say, personally that if it hadn't been for u.s. air power in tikrit they would have failed in tikrit. your description of the iraqi military i think is a broad generalization. it is certainly accurate as to some u it ins, many units maybe
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even most units. they do have some fighting forces. their control and command is spotty at best and they're going to have a very difficult time doing what they need to do in ramadi. >> because, you know, a year or so ago, a now thousand not many isis fighters went into the second largest city in iraq mosul, city of nearly 2 million people and there were huge numbers of iraqi troops. you know what they did. >> they left. >> threw their weapons down abandoned their hardware and ran away. they couldn't deal with a few thousand, you know iraq -- isis fighters. >> that was the first challenge they had from isis right there or essentially the first major challenge. >> i say this as you well know after a decade of the u.s. building 400,000 iraqi military personnel, giving them the most sophisticated weapons, when the u.s. finally pulled out, they left a lot of stuff there for all of which was m.i.a. in the fight against isis.
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>> no question. i think the point to be made here it isn't just training. you have to have fire in the belly, you have to have commitment and have command and control. and obviously that is grossly lacking and if that's -- if they're not willing to fight f they don't -- if they're not emboldened to fight, they don't have the right frame of mind to fight or the motive to fight, they'll do just what you said. >> are you going to vote in favor of providing the iraqis with $200 million in u.s. funds, taxpayer money, for the next year as the obama administration announced yesterday they want. >> we haven't crossed that bridge yet. we're discussing it. i always always want to hear details about how that money is going to be spent. we've been through this before. i think the administration understands that we in congress want substantially better accountability and answers about how are you going to keep track of this equipment than what we've been getting. we're discussing it and again,
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it's going to take u.s. air power almost certainly congress is not going to supply -- >> your open mind on the economic and military equipment too? >> i have an open mind but i have to have a lot more and a lot better answers. >> we invited the prime minister of iraq to join us here on cnn. he's told us -- his people told us he's too busy right now. >> he does have a lot. >> he could speak out and talk -- make his case as well to the american public. if he's asking for $200 million, make the case directly to the american people. >> what a better opportunity to do it than come on here on cnn. >> we're seen around the world. let's talk about the iran compromise the senate foreign relations committee worked out, 19-0 unanimous, the administration says they'll go along with it for now, are you happy with this? >> i'm not happy with it but what i am happy with wolf is that after this deal was struck and it was all a about words, words matter and pair graphs and sentences, after all was
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said and done what i'm going to get out of this and my colleagues is an opportunity to vote. as you know i've been a very critical of what the administration how it started, how it's unfolded where we are right now, and what is likely the final deal that comes up. i see some huge holes in that. i'm going to get a chance to vote on it. that's -- that's what -- >> that's important to you and to most of your colleagues republicans and democrats and we saw the foreign relations committee yesterday, the fact that the sanctions haven't been lifted yet and russia announcing a sale of missiles to iran what does that say? >> you know that is something that is -- i know is very worrisome to the israelis. we discussed this with the prime minister months ago, years ago actually they were very concerned about those s-300s. that is a game changer. if they deploy those s-300s it is much more difficult to get
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either natanz either one will be difficult to get at. you hope that doesn't happen but there are not good -- there are to the good signs that isn't eventually what's going to have to be done. >> yeah. and that's the military option is used by the israelis or u.s. presumably would be more difficult if the missiles were deployed. >> not presumably. that is an actual fact. >> we'll see what happens. it's a tough situation all around as you say. it's the least bad situation there. no real good outcomes of this right now at least for now. let's see what happens. senator risch thanks for coming up. >> good to see you. >> aid arrives in the devastated capital of yemen. we will go along, an exclusive look inside sanaa. stay with us.
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speaking into their radios and aware something was going on. we found out landed a chopper on the end of the capitol. unclear what size the helicopter was. we were speaking here a lot of security as you can imagine outside of the room where the iraqi prime minister is. we learned the capitol police did not know why the man landed a chopper there. there was what they call a security incident. the members of the senate foreign relations committee were told that there was a security incident. we now know after a few minutes that the man was taken into custody, being questioned. they want to know if there was a mechanical issue. it's not clear at this point if he is being as rested. we are not clear, i should tell you wolf the reason was that this man landed the chopper here at the capitol. we understand it could be part of some sort of protest, but those are questions we still have. now at no point was the capitol itself evacuated. there were briefly in a lockdown
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mode. we could hear the police talking into their radios akts plans for a lockdown and plans to potentially get the iraqi prime minister out of the building through some other means if that had been necessary. but now, the senate sergeant at arms told me several minutes ago everything is under control, the man is in custody for questioning, they want to find out why he landed this helicopter here and so that is -- that is where things stand right now. i'm told from some witnesses on the scene it was a very small aircraft. a very small helicopter. it's been described almost like a bicycle with copter attached at the top. i have not seen it. we are still outside the senate foreign relations committee room where there's still quite a bit of activity but the situation is under control. wolf? >> the fact that this small helicopter got through radar apparently do we know if law enforcement authorities, u.s. capitol police others federal this is a no-fly zone area.
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you can't fly over the u.s. capitol. you can't fly over these areas unless you have special permission. clearly this pilot, this helicopter did not have such permission. this pilot presumably is lucky to be alive right now because once a helicopter flies around the u.s. capitol like that they don't know what's inside. they could easily haves just shot down that helicopter if it had been detected. do we know if there was any warning that authorities on the ground either local law enforcement or federal authorities had any indication a helicopter was flying over the u.s. capitol like that unauthorized? >> we do not know that at this point. we're told as soon as the aircraft landed the police were on the scene screaming at passersby to get back. clearly a moment of commotion around here. people didn't know what was going on. when we were speaking to one of the members of law enforcement here the sergeant at arms they said they had the report that a helicopter had landed but were
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shurts how large of an aircraft it was. there was a lot of questions and for that reason a lot of commotion. we just happened to be outside of this room where the iraqi prime minister was having a photo op and that's when we were able to witness so many officers running through the hallways and so there was a big moment of questions and commotion but we have a lot of questions still about why that person landed there, how he came to make it so far and what else is going on what's going to happen to him. >> they're going to have to do a major after action review to determine when exactly did authorities discover this helicopter was flying. did they only see it on the ground once it landed on the ground? was there any indication while it was still hovering over the u.s. capitol, the front area of the u.s. capitol, any indications it was flying over? was it too small? if it wasn't detected that's going to raise enormous questions about security for the united states capitol area
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because this is as i say, a know fly zone. you can't fly over the area around the u.s. capitol without permission and clearly this guy did not have permission. but everything as you say right now, the iraqi prime minister up on capitol hill meeting with lawmakers has that all gone back into normal procedure or is there still some commotion up there? >> we believe that meeting with the iraqi prime minister and other members is still going on. we only saw a few people leave that room. one of them the top democrat on the committee ben carden telling us they were told there was a security incident. i should make sure everyone knows this person is not seen as a threat. the sergeant -- senate sergeant at arms came over and told us that this person is not seen as a threat but, of course as you mentioned, wolf very, very highly unusual and it should not be possible for someone to come and land any sized aircraft on the west front of the capitol. there's going to be a lot of
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questions asked about how that was able to happen and what his purpose was. he is not a threat. wolf? >> this was a manned helicopter a few weeks ago, there was a drone unmanned aircraft that landed near the white house that caused enormous considerations. take a look at these live pictures take a look at these live pictures we're showing our viewers. it's capitol hill. you see that helicopter but it looks like some sort of robotic equipment. i don't know if you can see that athena. it's moving closer to get picture of what's going on. clearly there's concern what's inside that helicopter. you say the pilot has been arrested and taken into custody for questioning, but they want to make sure there's nothing on that little helicopterslicopter that's near the front of the u.s. capitol, near the u.s. capitol. it looks like some sort of cameras are on that little robotic device there, taking pictures trying to determine, make sure there's no lethal --
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no bomb or anything like that on this kind of a helicopter. this is a very disturbing development that's happening. for viewers just tuning in here in the united states and around the world, this happened only within the past few minutes. you can see a helicopter there, the propeller still caught in the wind a little bit. the pilot has been arrested taken into questioning. flew over the u.s. capitol unauthorized. this is a no-fly zone. we don't know why the pilot did this. was there a mechanical problem? was the pilot trying to make some sort of statement? we see this robotic vehicle now with cameras moving closer and closer to this helicopter to try to determine what is aboard this helicopter if there's anything dangerous there. in the background you can see people already standing there, not that far away. they're watching what's going on. i suspect law enforcement would like to see those people get away from there in case there is something that is potentially, could be aboard that helicopter. you see out of an abundance of caution, they've got this
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robotic vehicle with cameras and potentially other equipment, maybe even equipment that could destroy that helicopter. this is clearly a potentially -- could have been a dangerous situation. remember this is restricted air space. the faa does not allow aircraft to fly over the u.s. capitol. a lot of us remember of course what happened on 9/11 when there was a plane that was getting near the u.s. capitol, what went into the pentagon as we remember so vividly, not that long ago. so this is a disturbing situation here in the nation's capitol. athena athena you have some more information? >> all i can tell you now is what the capitol police have been telling us which is this g gyrocopter landed on the west lawn. one person was detained.
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there are temporary street closers in the immediate area. now we're waiting to find out more about why this person flew this aircraft over near the capitol building and was able to land and how they were able to do that. we still have a lot of questions we need to get answered. >> all right. stand by athena. we're going to continue the breaking mystery unfolding here in the nation's capitol. a helicopter lands near the u.s. capitol. we're told this is restricted air space. the individual did not have permission to fly in this air space. we're going to take a quick break. we'll be right back.
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we're still following the breaking news here in washington. a mysterious landing of a tiny small helicopter on capitol hill near the u.s. congress.
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we're watching the story unfold. this is restricted air space. much more on this coming up. stay with us. we're getting new information, but i quickly want to turn to a deepening desperation in yemen right now. hundreds of people have been killed. collateral damage in the fighting. they're left to hope for a rare aid flight bringing much-needed food and medical supplies. our own nick payton walsh went along on one of those flights. he got a stark look at what remains of the capital city and its people. >> bringing help shouldn't be this hard. the runway nearly all that's intact here after three weeks of bombing. they have landed in a scene of devastation here. this really the only way in to the yemeni capital, and it's being used for these vital supplies. this is a country where so many
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of whom do not have food or water and whose injured are badly in need of medicine. this from unicef frankly a drop in the ocean of help that's needed. and this is where it has to get. little zahra, whose parents say she wouldn't stop crying since the bombing began. the only hospital they could be brought, where medicine is scarce. this is a large factory complex where the bombs fell repeatedly in early april. one thing a bombing campaign can't avoid is to anger those it hits. these are ordinary yemenis still, regardless of their sympathies. 37 people were killed here he says burned to death. this is a crime.
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what are the storage facilities going to do for them? all this is to ruin the yemeni people another says. we say to the saudis this is the safety you're providing to the people of yemen? here in a houthi area near the capital, there have been two attacks, locals say. the united states is assisting in targeting. saudi arabia says it avoids civilian casualties but the u.n. still says hundreds have died. locals say there were no military targets here as they pick through the remnants of their lives. they came with bombs, he says. is this a houthi? down here in the dust the bombs do not win back territory for the government of departed president hadi. >> there are dead bodies on the street god rest their souls.
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>> these scenes far from the world's helping hand. and on the one aid flight we left on we saw below how shattered this already broken country now is. nick payton walsh, cnn, sanaa. >> thanks to nick for that report. that's it for me. the news continues next on cnn. all right. here we go. top of the hour i'm brooke baldwin. let's talk about this breaking news. this is absolutely odd. this is out of washington, d.c. these are live pictures of this manned aircraft that has landed on the west front of the capitol building. we're getting new details here as far as maybe who was flying it why this could be there, what the heck happened. athena jones, i've got you joining me on the phone. also i have cnn's senior media correspondent with some of the who. first, the what. athena let me bring