that is it for us. thank you for watching. i'm don lemon. i'll see you back here tomorrow night. "a.c. 360" starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us. take a look. the sun going down in baltimore. police and protesters out in force. the breaking news tonight, less than a day after the city's mayor and police chief tried to get out in front of it contain it tamp it down protest over a man's death in police custody, appears instead tonight have grown. marchers who had been driven way last evening we rainy weather came out today in force, demanding answers to how freddie gray ended up with fatal spinal cord injuries after being arrested on the morning of the 12th. mr. gray's mother overcome with emotion, collapsed during the march, could not go on. her grief matched by a lot of

others' strong emotions tonight on the streets, including disbelief, mistrust and obviously a lot of anger. we're going to speak in a moment with baltimore's mayor and with our panel of experts about all the unanswered questions surrounding freddie gray's death. but first, let's go to miguel marquez with the protesters in the city of baltimore. what's the latest? what's happening? >> well it's not entirely clear what is happening. they were just here at the west district police office where mr. gray was meant to be brought. the protesters have now moved to -- actually moving to the intersection here and it's not clear why. there's several hundred protesters out here at this point, throughout the afternoon, though, the numbers were as big as 2,000 people out here in these protests. they have been mainly peaceful but moments of great, great anger as we saw earlier. not directed at us. i mean i think they're happy that the press is out here covering this something that they say we've neglected too long but they are extraordinarily unhappy with the

police and the mayor and the city government here. what they want is all those six officers arrested on first-degree murder charges. they say they are going to take over the area around the city hall starting on thursday and they will stay there until there is justice. anderson? >> miguel gray's parents were there earlier. we said that his mom collapsed. how did the crowd react when they showed up? >> it was chaotic. but it was extraordinarily moving. the parents we have not seen so far. they came out -- they came out and they were -- they were unable to talk for the most part because his mother was so overwhelmed with grief. they then marched from here to the police station, where she did at one point want her face shown. where they got to the point where their son was arrested though they embraced they cried, and they let out the longest, hardest wail that i have ever heard.

it was extraordinarily hard to hear as everybody was quiet around them their hands in the air. it was a very very moving moment. anderson? >> miguel marquez, thanks. we'll continue to check in with you throughout this hour. now, baltimore's mayor says she is fighting to bring back trust between the police and the community. stephanie recallawlings blake joins us now. madame mayor, thank you for being with us. i know you're asking the same question a lot of people were namely when and how was freddie gray really injured? at this point, have you gotten any answers? >> i want to thank the members of the public who have come forward to give us video evidence as well as testimony. because i'm determined to get to the bottom of it. we still have a lot of unanswered questions. what we know is that when the police first encountered mr. gray he was able to talk he was responsive. we saw him run, we saw him walk we knew that he did not look like he had any physical

injuries. what we also know is that very shortly thereafter when he was removed from the van, he was unresponsive. we know that he requested medical attention and that attention wasn't immediately requested for him. >> when did he request medical attention? i'm sorry, when did he request medical attention? when he was being put in the van? >> there were several points. there was at least one -- between one and three times that we have documented that he's requested medical attention. there's one that we caught on the video, where he's asking for an inhaler, and there was another request for medical attention, as documented in the timeline that we published yesterday. so we know that there was at least one or more times where he requested medical attention. and that's concerning. any human being that requests medical attention in a city that

is known around the world for their, you know, their medical expertise, we should be able to do better than that. so that is a concern of mine and a concern of police commissioner who has made it very clear in re-issued policies and procedures so that the department what they are to do when they have an individual in custody, that requests medical attention. that person will get medical attention immediately. >> when he was in the back of the police vehicle, was he there by himself? do you know, was there an officer present with him? >> no officer present. there were two stops made and by the second stop or the third, there was an additional suspect placed in the van, but had no ability to contact. there were two separate sections of the van, so the person was not in the same section as mr. gray. >> yesterday or several days ago, i believe, there was a statement, i'm not sure if it was from you or someone else in city hall saying that it seemed

that whatever happened to mr. gray happened after he was placed in custody, once he was in the van. but in the video, it certainly seems like his legs are, i don't know if you can say -- i don't want to use the word "paralyzed," but he doesn't seem to be using his legs. he seems to being dragged. do you now believe whatever happened to him, occurred before he was put into the van? >> i said yesterday that i believed something happened while they were in the van. that's based on what i can see and what i'm piecing together. i wasn't there. the police commissioner wasn't there, nor the deputy commissioner were there. and what is most important, not necessarily what my conjecture is but what is most important is that we get to the bottom of what happened. and that's why it's so important, as i started off by saying that we have more people come forward, with information. if we have any eyewitnesss that are out there, we want to hear from them. i don't know at what point mr. gray suffered the traumatic and

fatal injuries. i don't know. but i'm determined to get to the bottom of it. >> what have the police actually told you, because my understanding is there's actually a cooling off period so-called, where authorities are not actually even allowed to interview the police officers on the scene. is that true? and if so why is that? because i think a lot of people would think, look it's been more than eight or nine days ten days why haven't -- why isn't there a clear time line a clear blow-by-blow for lack of a better term as to exactly what happened? so have all the police been interviewed? >> there is a timeline that we've put out and we're trying to use police testimony as well as testimony from the public to support the timeline that's already been published by the -- >> but you're saying you don't know what happened. you're saying you don't know exactly what happened. i mean we're going now past a week. how can, at this point, you the mayor of the town not know

exactly what happened? haven't all -- have all the police officers given their full accounts? >> so, i was getting to that. the officers who were at who were directly involved because of our law enforcement officers' bill of rights we have yet to fully engage those officers. and we will get to the bottom of it. i'm determined to make sure that we have a full investigation and we follow all of the rules and procedures. so if there was a -- if there is a finding of wrongdoing that we have done everything possible to protect policies and procedures so we can hold those individuals accountable. you know i know that there's an interest and a frustration about the amount of information, but can you imagine the frustration if we screw this up? i want to make sure that we get, and we're pushing out as much information as we have as soon as we're able to confirm it. and there's still some unanswered questions. >> and there's no doubt about that. you have been very forthright with the information that you have but, again, i think a lot of people certainly who are on the streets tonight, when they

hear about the officers' bill of rights they're going to wonder why those officers get so long before they actually have to account for what happened. how long according to this bill of rights in baltimore, do they have before they actually have to give an accounting? >> there's two time periods. there's a time period to which they have to get an attorney and a time period after that. and i will say, i was in our state capital fighting for strong laws stronger reforms when it gomcomes to the officer' bill of rights. i was down there fighting to give our police commissioner more tools to hold officers accused of wrongdoing accountable. you know the fact that there is a perception of an uneven playing field between the police and the community is not lost on me. and that's why i was fighting so hard. and i'm looking forward to having more supporters down there fighting along with me next session, so we can get more of those better reforms in place

and better tools in place, so we can hold those officers accountable. we have made a lot of progress in baltimore. lawsuits against the city against the police department under my administration have gone down as courtesy complaints excessive use of force complaints are going down but we have a lot of progress to do and it significantly hampers our ability to bridge the -- or to repair the relationship with the community and the police when something this tragic happens. that's why i'm determined to get it right. that's why i'm determined to work with anyone i know the department of justice is going to be here investigating. i want them to take a look at this. i want to get it right for the community. mr. gray's family deserves justice and our community deserves an opportunity to heal to get better and to make sure that something like this doesn't happen again. >> i just got two more questions for you. one, i want to ask you about the protesters outside, your concerns your hopes for what

you're going to see tonight. but, first, i want to ask you, how concerned are you -- i mean the initial reports say that the police basically made eye contact with mr. gray and that he turned around and started running away and that the police pursued him and then tackled him. is that appropriate? there is an account, i believe, from a police officer saying somebody saw a knife clipped to the front or one of his pockets. some people raised questions about whether that could have actually been the case. but is simply not wanting to interact with the police cause for being stopped in baltimore? >> so i'm an attorney by trade. i spend a significant amount of time while i was serving as a member of the city council as an attorney with the public defender's office. i know what probable cause is. i haven't heard a probable cause in this case yet. that's one of the questions that i want answered. i know that having a knife is not necessarily probable cause

for a stop or an arrest. that's why i have significant questions about what happened. and that's why i'm determined to get to the bottom of it. you know, we are working very hard. i've spoken to the governor today, that controls the medical examiner's office and asked that you know, please as soon as you can release concrete information about what you're seeing what the autopsy, please release it to the family and to the public so we can continue to put out as much information as possible. while we are conducting this investigation. i want to make sure that we get this right, that we continue to put out as much information as possible and that again, i'm determined that something like this not happen again in our city. >> and to the protesters tonight, what do you want them to know? >> that i hear them. that i share their frustration. i haven't heard what the probable cause was. i haven't heard the cause of this fatal, very serious, fatal

sure. i share your concerns. i grew up in baltimore. i know our history. and that's why i've worked so hard in my career and in my time in public service trying to make things better in baltimore. it's clear that we have more work to do. we also we also have a history, however, of peaceful protests respectful protests. and i will work the police department is committed and i've instructed them to work to make sure that the voices of the community are heard. they deserve to be heard. they have a right to be heard. and we will make sure that we protect that right. >> madame mayor, thank you very much for your time. i appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. when we come back we're going to tackle some of the answered questions that we've just been talking about, and the unanswered one is always make sure you set your dvr. you can watch "360" wherever you want. coming up major new developments on the showdown with iran in the waters off yemen and president obama weighing in. thanks for calling angie's list. how may i help you? i heard i could call angie's list if i needed work done around my house at a fair price. you heard right, just tell us what you need done

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protesters and police facing off tonight in the streets of baltimore. several hundred people hitting the streets, demanding abs inging answers in the death of freddie gray. whether you agree or disagree with their view of the baltimore police force, there is no disputing this. at this point, there are many questions surrounding what happened and not many answers. you just heard that from the mayor herself. once again, miguel marquez joins us tonight from the protest. miguel? >> reporter: a lot of anger here in the streets of baltimore,well baltimore tonight. protesters on the move again. they're now moving from the --

the western district police station back i believe, to where mr. gray was arrested. there are so many questions, though about the timeline. the police released the timeline early on but then they said that mr. gray the van he was in stopped once. it turns out they stopped twice. people here want answers to those very serious questions. >> and we want 'em now! >> reporter: baltimore police say freddie gray's transport from arrest to ambulance took not one stop but three, a long route and a long time before officers apparently realized gray was seriously injured. his family coming out publicly for the first time today. this map shows where gray was arrested where he was initially placed in a police van, screaming in pain, his legs apparently not fully functional. at 8:45 a.m. police make their first stop at baker and mount streets. just around the corner from where gray's arrested, they

shackle his legs then two more stops. police drive gray to 1,100 druid avenue they say to check on his condition. then they drive him back to where they first saw gray on that day on north avenue to pick up another prisoner. only then do they drive gray to the western district police office where an officer is killed. a lawyer disputes the timeline. >> they don't know when he was injured. >> reporter: the 25-year-old died sunday one week after falling into a coma following an arrest by baltimore police. the witness who shot this video of the arrest and does not want to be identified says before he started recording, police were being physically tough with gray. >> they had freddie gray up into what i would like to call a pretzel type of move where they had the healels of his feet to his back and still in handcuffs and they had a knee in the back of his neck. >> we'll check back in with miguel marquez throughout this hour as the protests continue.

joining us now, cnn legal analyst, sunny hostin a former federal prosecutor she's worked in the baltimore area and we should also mention, is friends with baltimore's mayor. also lawrence kobilinsky retired new york police detective, harry hauk. sunny, it's been ten days and still not a lot of answers. does that surprise you? >> it does surprise me, quite frankly. you have sort of the spotlight on baltimore and you now have six officers that have been suspended. and i feel at this point we have very little information. we're talking about a man who was fine before police custody and then suffered a tragic fatal injury. how is it possible that we don't know more? that just doesn't make sense to me. and i think it's giving everyone this sense of an opaqueness of a lack of transparency in this investigation. and while i understand that everyone wants to get it right, i think it's time that we provide answers. >> professor kobilinsky, three fractured vertebrae, says the

family attorney and a crushed voicebox. what does that tell you about what went on? >> it's a little difficult to understand. i don't see how he could have yelled and spoken if the larynx had actually been crushed. i will say this though -- >> this is a dumb question. are we talking about the adam's apple -- >> yes, yes, vocal cords reside in there. but the issue for me is the damage to the spinal cord could have occurred in either a one-step or two-step situation. if the vertebrae had been fractured and displaced, that could have severed the cord in one shot. on the other hand had the fractures taken place and then subsequent to that that freddie gray had been transported, and his head perhaps, underwent rotation or lateral movement or something else the fractured vertebrae could have severed the cord. so it could have happened in two

stages. but it does appear to me that the initial trauma occurred before he entered the van. >> harry, you know i talked to the mayor about the initial interaction that led to the police running after mr. gray. she says she doesn't see evidence of probable cause. there had been a report about possibly seeing the clip of a switchblade in his pocket or of a knife. exactly what is required for probable cause? >> you don't need probable cause to make a stop. you need what's called reasonable suspicion. and the officer's reasonable suspicion based on reports that i have read is that we saw the clip for his knife in his front pocket. that's their story, okay? so based on that they made a stop he ran, and the officers engaged him. >> sunny, do you buy that? there are a lot of people we had mark geragos on this program last night saying look maybe they found the knife afterwards and said okay we saw the clip with the knife.

>> i rarely agree with mark geragos, but i agree with him on that. you would have to have x-ray vision to see a knife in someone's right front pocket. i do however, think that someone is running in a high-crime area that would give the police officers reasonable suspicion, perhaps to pursue perhaps to stop perhaps to frisk. but i still don't understand after that if in fact the knife was legal, i don't understand how it ends up in an arrest and even if there is an arrest if the knife was illegal, which some knives in maryland are, because i'm a maryland lawyer as well -- >> switchblades are illegal. >> no matter how big they are, are illegal. and allegedly what he had was a switchblade. >> we don't know for sure. if that's the case i still don't understand how the police report indicates that the arrest was without incident or force, and you have a dead man. so regardless of why he was stopped, i don't understand why he's dead. >> harry, explain that.

you used to work in internal affairs in new york among many other assignments. i talked about the police officer's bill of rights which gives them a period of time to make a statement. you and i were talking during the break. you say, look they have the right to not make a statement. >> exactly. i don't know exactly what their bill of rights what the union does but in new york if an officer is involved with something, where there might be some kind of criminal charges against him, all right, he doesn't say anything you know? that's what you have detectives for, to conduct the investigation. now, attorneys will come right in there, for those police officers and they'll tell them to keep their mouths shut and they'll talk to them. >> but does a police officer -- let's talk about new york since that's where you work. does a police officer in new york have to immediately, though fill out a report detailing, step by step what happened in this arrest who -- >> no. >> they don't? >> no. if they feel that this report could somehow harm him, all right, there's other officers on the scene, there's other parts of the investigation, detectives

coming on the scene to conduct the investigation. their lawyers are going to tell them keep your mouth shut just like anybody else police officers are afforded the same rights as anyone else. >> that's one of the reasons, perhaps, why, the mayor doesn't have the full facts of what's happened because, as she said in the interview, they haven't been able to get statements from all the officers. >> they haven't been able to get statements. and i think, you know when you talk about legislation and the law enforcement officers' bill of rights people have been trying to reform those rights because of this very reason. i do believe -- >> but you still can't stop them. >> but i do believe that an officer who arrests someone should be able to fill out the police incident report. as a matter of course harry, you know the police incident reports are always filled out after an arrest. why is it now that these officers don't have to fill out a police incident report especially after someone has died in their custody. i think that's ridiculous. >> because of the possibility of them being prosecuted just like

anybody else. >> and that's why the whole thing -- >> this bill of rights is not going to take away the rights of a police officer. they can change those bill of rights all they want. he still has the right to remain silent. he has the basic rights that every american in this country has. >> we'll have to take a short break. more with harry and sunny and lawrence kobilinsky. we'll continue to follow developments in baltimore with miguel marquez on the ground. still ahead, a potential development with iran in the sea off yemen. and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com.

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well there's breaking news in the naval showdown with iran in the sea off yemen.

just one of several potential developments in the story today. barely a day after u.s. warships including "theodore roosevelt" began steaming there to head off arms ships to houthi forces a key player made a big announcement. saudi arabia, which backs the yemeni government and has been bombing the iranian-backed rebels said it was ending the air strikes, calling them successful. the white house today welcomed it as well. and at the same time talking with msnbc's chris matthews, president obama also had a warning. a warning to anyone seeking to destabilize that part of the world. >> when it comes to the seas we are, obviously, the dominant force. and we're coordinating closely with all of our allies in the region sending a message that rather than another conflict in the region we need to settle this now. >> clearly, things are happening and chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto is here with all the latest

developments. what's the latest about where the u.s. ships are and how this could all play out? >> the ships now are distributed along here. you have them in the southern red sea, the straits here in the gulf of aden and the arabian sea. you have saudi ships, egyptian ships, ships from the united air ram emirates and the iranians down here as well. and still in international waters the idea being they're close enough that they can keep watch over them but they're not in a position right now, anderson where there are plans to board them or blockade them. as the president said this is about sending a message, not just to the iranians was also to the gulf uh allies that the u.s. will continue to have their back as it were even in the midst of these very sensitive negotiations with the iranians over the nuclear program. a lot of this is about message sending. because everybody involved in this knows if a u.s. ship were to block or board an iranian ship that would really raise the tensions here almost to an act of war, so they're trying to send that message without taking that step. >> and these manned u.s.

reconnaissance flights off yemen, what are they looking for, exactly? >> this is part of it. i just want to show you a video here. this is the "uss theodore roosevelt," which was moved down from the arabian sea, up here part of the operations against isis in iraq and syria, down because of the events in yemen, not just the deterioration of the situation there, but the iranian conconvoy. so you have aircraft off this ship that you can see right here flying reconnaissance keeping an eye on the iranian convoy. again, part of this sending a message that we are watching you, we know you're there. we're aware that you may very well have weapons on board. we don't know that but just to give that message, as the president said in his comments to nbc tonight, to say that you know the intention here is to ratchet down the tension, rather than ratchet it up. and it's a u.s. position that they're communicating in part with all these military assets that that you send more arms to yemen, you'll make the situation worse, not better. >> saudi arabia ending their

bombing saying it was successful. do we know if that's true? do we know if actually it did. >> i'll take you back to the map. i was with the saudi ambassador last week. he was talking about how they're fully committed to this operation, we're going to be there for long haul, until all goals are accomplished. six days later, they say all their military goals are accomplished in yemen. people in the pentagon say they don't see this as a saudi cease-fire in yemen. yes, the first stage is over. they've got the major military aspects, ballistic missiles the things they see as a threat to saudi arabia and their neighbors in the region. doesn't mean it's the end to military action all military action by saudi arabia and yemen. but it's a significant step here because, remember keep in mind all the folks who are very uncomfortable with this saudi air campaign iran among them, called it a genocide not that saudi arabia is obeying iran here, but this was a sensitive military operation there. there were a lot of civilian

deaths from this so you see the saudis stepping back ratcheting down that military action. but, anderson i'm told from the u.s. perspective, it doesn't look like a complete end to saudi military action there going forward. >> all right. jim sciutto, appreciate the update. i want to talk more about what is happening on the ground and on the high seas. there is obviously a lot of tension and a lot of potential for tension in this conflict. joining us now is fareed zakaria, host of gps weekends here on cnn. also u.s. retired navy command, kirk lippold. he was the commander of "uss cole" when it was bombed a year before the 9/11 attacks. fareed how big of a potential flashpoint is this right now? u.s. warships in close proximity to iranian vessels? >> it could be a real flash point, because yemen is essentially unimportant. what yemen has become is a cockpit for the regional ambitions and region fall designs for the two great powers net region, iran and saud yaibi

arabia arabia. that's really what's playing itself out. there are no larger issues involved. to understand for a second the absurdity of what is going on the saudis are bombing the houthis. the houthis are these rebels who have been rebelling against the yemeni government. who is leading the houthis right now? it is mr. saleh, the guy who was the dictator of yemen for 30 years, who was backed for 30 years by saudi arabia. so saudi arabia is bombing the very dictator it supported for 30 years. so it's really just a power play. and it's important to understand the saudi air strikes largely failed because really what you have to have is a power-sharing deal. yemen has been in a state of civil war since 1962. these guys are just playing some kind of local power play over here. the united states in my opinion, would be very well advised not to get involved much more deeply than it is. it's trying to calm the waters down but we have no dog in this fight. and we should make sure that we don't, you know the interest of

saudi arabia are not identical to those of the united states. >> really the only interest the u.s. has in yemen is one of yemen being used by al qaeda andarabian peninsula, used as a location for terrorism. >> precisely. our only concern is that the power vacuums don't develop so deeply that al qaeda or isis could get there. frankly from a real politic perspective for the united states any order is fine in yemen. we just need order. >> commander lippold, the u.s. is casting this deployment as a show of force. but anytime a u.s. aircraft carrier and the ships that travel with it are in those waters, there is a danger here inherent to it, no? >> there always will be anderson. the key is going to be that when the aircraft carrier comes into the region they'll get airplanes in the air that will be able to build that picture out. so we know who is where, what ships are operating, how close they are, where the iranians are, how many days or hours it will be until they get into any kind of yemeni territory or waters.

so we can understand where these ships are and aid or provide intelligence to the saudis and others so that if they choose to interdict them they can. i think fareed is absolutely correct. while we may not have a direct dog in this fight, clearly what you're seeing is yemen being used as a fulcrum between the two large players, saudi arabia and iran. with the navy being there, it's obviously important, obviously, we are sending a very strong signal that we do have a dog in this fight, in that we consider it vitally important to maintain the sea lanes of communication open open to the straight of hormuz open through the south end of the arabian sea, to make sure the flow of oil and goods should not be interfered with. >> commander, can you see a situation where u.s. personnel board iranian vessels, or would that be left up to saudis or others? >> i would think at this point, anderson we would want to leave it to the saudis and remain

disengaged. i don't believe we should be doing it. the only circumstance where i could see it actually even happening would be chose those iranian ships enter yemeni waters then being in their territorial waters if the government in exile were to make a request to the united states government, we would need to review that and determine, should we let a boarding party from the u.s. board? but a lot of these other countries have the capability. they know how to board other ships. they're practiced at it they have seen us doing it for years. they know when they're doing and they would be more than capable. it would be up to us to help us provide the intelligence to get to the right ships and do it. >> good to have you on. up next a surprising decision from the judge in the case against a volunteer deputy captured on video shooting and killing a suspect instead of tasing him. and also tonight, a major ice cream recall. why blue bell is putting all of its froze treats from stores, next.

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protests winding down tonight in baltimore after hundreds of people hit the streets demanding answers in what they say is justice in the death of freddie gray. billy murphy is one of the attorneys representing mr. gray's family. he joins me now. mr. murphy thanks for being with us. i know you had hoped to get both the autopsy report and mr. gray's body returned to the family by now. do you have any indication when police will share the report with you and release his body? >> none whatsoever. and an expedited autopsy under these circumstances is fairly rare. >> for the officers involved in mr. gray's arrest what do you want to see happen with them with respect to them? >> well it's too early to give

anything except speculate about the degree to which any one of them in particular is involved in this case. what we want is justice. we don't want a rush to justice. and we're willing to be patient to let these investigations play out, so we can get everything exactly right. >> i talked to the mayor at the top of this broadcast, and she said she, a, doesn't see evidence evidence of probable cause in the initial apprehension of mr. gray and she also clearly, does not have all the information that she would like to have. what do you make of the fact that ten days after the arrest and death of mr. gray there still isn't a complete set of facts here? >> well i applaud the mayor for admitting that there's no probable cause here. there isn't. running while black is not a crime and there's no such thing as felony running. and a good argument can be made that the only thing that kid did

that was wrong was he didn't run fast enough. if there was ever a case to justify in the future why black people in a city should run from the police this is the case. and number two, the mayor's at the mercy of the police. and all of us are skeptical about whether the police can accurately and honestly investigate themselves especially given the long history of them not doing that and covering up these kinds of brutality incidents. and thank god for video cell phones phones, because that makes this a new day. and that points to the urgent need for police cameras. because you can argue that this would not have happened had these police been wired up with cameras that recorded their movements in these situations. >> the department of justice announced today, they're officially looking into mr. gray's death, looking for any civil rights violations. have you been able to talk with the family about that investigation, what the department of justice might be able to accomplish? >> the family welcomes a new set

of eyes and they especially trust eric holder in light of his past performance on these kinds of issues. and so they welcome this investigation with open arms. >> billy murphy i appreciate your time tonight? thank you. back with our panel, sunny hostin lawrence kobilinsky and terry hauk. in terms of this investigation, where does it go from here? >> i think billy murphy makes a very important point. i am uncomfortable with the baltimore police department investigating this investigating its own. we've seen time and time again that that really isn't the right way to do it. you should have an independent investigative force or team investigating something like this. i mean like you said it's been ten days. we haven't heard from the police. obviously, as harry said they do have the same rights that everyone else has, but they've obviously lawyered up. they haven't spoken. so how now do you expect the baltimore city police commissioner to investigate his own? you've got to have someone else come in with a fresh pair of eyes a disinterested pair of

eyes and look at this case. >> harry, traditionally, there is great resistance among police forces around the country to that sort of independent, civilian review. >> right, yea. typically, i mean i don't even know why. i've got no problem with the, you know the attorney general coming in to take a look at it. they did a good job in the eric holder case a good job in the other case in ferguson. i've got no problem with eric holder's u.s. attorneys coming in and investigating this case and i don't think the police department should have any problem with that either. >> how much can the family at this point learn from an autopsy, professor? >> well you know we haven't seen x-rays we haven't seen the autopsy report. hopefully, the autopsy has been done by a board-certified forensic examiner rather than a hospital pathologist, was those autopsies are quite different. >> really? >> oh, absolutely. you know board-certified forensic examiners are trained, first of all, to be cynical and to examine the exact damage to the vertebrae and see what

possible mechanisms might explain the brain. >> and that's critical to find out what mechanism might have caused the damage to the vertebrae, whether it was an instrument like a baton or something, whether it was in a fall or what? >> i would totally agree with that yes. so there's a lot we can learn from the autopsy, but i think what we also need is to establish a better time line. and also keep an open mind. because, you know strange things can happen. the police could have for example, tackled mr. gray and he could have dropped in such a way, where there was a great deal of force. his body weight plus the pressure of the tackle that brought him down creating tremendous forces on the cervical vertebrae. so how the vertebrae were broken is a critical piece of this. it could have not been a baton. it could have been a baton, it could have been an accident. but certainly, we're not going to know the answer to this until we have a real clear timeline of what happened and,

again, i say that the court could have impartially severed, it could have happened in two stages things could very well have happened in a van. the van could have jolted for example, and that could have triggered the break of the spinal cord. >> a lot of of coulds not a lot of answers at this point. a quick programming note at the top of the next hour drew griffin investigates the dangers of a kind of drug you may not be too familiar with. stay tuned for "deadly high: how synthetic drugs are killing kids" here on cnn. we'll be right back.

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more questions than answers tonight in the fatal injury of a baltimore man in police custody. more protests expected as well throughout the week. i want to check back in with our miguel marquez in baltimore, where tonight's demonstrations are winding down. miguel? >> reporter: it looks like they have just about winded down but a very very intense day here in west baltimore, with the parents of freddie gray making their first public appearance a very emotional public appearance and protesters numbering at one point about 2,000 people here in front of the police station, promising to be back here tomorrow in numbers just as big, if not bigger. they've been doing this almost every night. tonight was the biggest that we have seen. tomorrow they are promising more and on thursday nights they are promising to go to the city hall here in baltimore and take over that until they see what they want. and that is the arrest of those six officers who they say, are culpable of first-degree murder

of mr. freddie gray, who was taken and arrested just several blocks from here. the people here tonight saying that they will not rest until they see justice. it is the most impressive showing that we have seen so far. and we expect in the days ahead that this is going to grow. thanks very much. that does it for us. the cnn special report "deadly high" starts now. >> announcer: the following is a cnn special report. >> i don't think he's breathing at all. >> we need somebody now. >> this is the only time we've reached out to a school system and said hey, there's this danger on the street. >> deadly new drugs on america's streets. >> nothing like anything i've had before. the trees look like cauliflower dancing around. >> once they alter that