we still don't know what happened inside that prisoner van leading to several spinal injuries that took his life. >> baltimore police finally releasing the names of six officers involved now suspended with pay as the number of investigations jumps to four with the justice department opening a civil rights probe into gray's death. we begin our coverage this morning with suzanne malveaux. she's live for us in baltimore. tell us the scene there, suzanne. >> reporter: well alisyn we're outside of city hall. and this is where we expect protesters people in the community, the family of freddyie gray to gather on thursday to really try to figure out to get some answers from this government from city officials. they are extremely frustrated here. it has been ten days since freddie gray was actually taken into police custody. three days since he has died. and we know very little. the voices of demonstrators united making their point clear. baltimore is fed up.

the baltimore police department lined with barricades and officers protesters standing firm with their demand for justice. >> how do you take a man, put him in handcuffs and -- >> we hear the frustration of the community. we hear the angst and the hurt in the gray family. and we have an obligation to make sure that we are as open and transparent with this investigation as we can be. >> reporter: freddie gray's mother shielding her face overcome with grief tuesday. still unable to lay her son to rest. police have yet to turn over his body. the family plans to conduct a second private autopsy. the baltimore sun quoting the family as saying before he died gray underwent surgery for three fractured vertebrae in his neck. >> i don't know at what point mr. gray suffered the traumatic and fatal injuries. i don't know. but i'm determined to get to the bottom of it. >> reporter: the department of

justice says it's now launching their own probe to determine if any civil rights were violated. and this week baltimore police department releasing the names of all six officers who were directly involved in the april 12th arrest. five men and one woman their ages range from 25 to 45. four of them relatively new to the force. the other two have at least 15 years of experience with the department. all six suspended with pay. authorities stressing that the actions taken against them in no way implies any wrongdoing in the arrest. the baltimore police department is promising to have their investigation wrapped up by next friday. they're going to turn it over -- >> thanks so suzanne for that report. well this is not the first time that the baltimore police department has been accused of excessive force. an investigation by the baltimore sun found that since 2011 the city of baltimore has paid out close to $6 million in court judgments or settlements to victims of police abuse.

let's bring in the reporter behind that sun investigation mark puente and pastor of the empowerment temple church who marched with the protesters last night. gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. reverend toipt start with you. we understand more than 1,000 people turned out to protest and it was very emotionally charged. in fact we hear that freddie gray's family also came out. his mother became overwhelmed at one point. can you describe what the whole experience was like? >> it was overwhelming not just for his mother but for fredrika which was his twin sister. to feel the heaviness of the reality being outside of the precinct knowing these six officers essentially on a paid vacation while we have to pull money together for a funeral. it's a gravin equity and a slap in the face to say it's a mystery. it's not a mystery, it's a murder. and those six officers need to be held accountable for it.

>> mark we talked abtd the investigative pieces you've done for your paper, "the baltimore sun" in which you've looked at excessive force in the baltimore police department. what did you find? >> well our investigation found that since 2011 baltimore police officers have been sued countless times, in 102 cases the city either settled or jury awarded damages to suspects who eventually became plaintiffs in those lawsuits. and what stood out to us is that in nearly all the cases the individuals were charged during questionable arrests and charged with disorderly conduct, resisting arrest and assault on a law enforcement officer. the charges were later dropped by prosecutors and judges. many of the individuals had broken arms broken bones, black eyes other injuries. and the city paid out damages. and they didn't track these cases. they had no way to know multiple officers had been sued multiple times for similar accusations. >> mark that's incredible. those findings are incredible that the people who were

originally arrested it turns out there was no rationale to charge them criminally. and they came out of it with all these injuries. were you able to determine if baltimore is worse than other police departments? is something going on specifically in baltimore? >> well we looked at dallas as a comparison as a similar size department. dallas had 26 claims and paid about the same amount of money. would have saved baltimore millions of dollars the state has a cap per case. had that cap not been in place the number could have been significantly higher. >> reverend one of the most infuriating things to the protesters is that the baltimore police department has not been able to provide any answers about what happened to freddie gray once he was in custody or even why they pursued him to begin with. last night a spokesperson for the baltimore police department came on cnn and spoke to erin burnett. and his answer was stunning in its basically lack of awareness.

i want to play this for you. >> we're going to follow the facts where they go. the deputy commissioner said no force was used. all of the evidence that we have at this time indicates there was no force used there was no bruising no indication of any sort of broken bones. however, that investigation is still ongoing. >> reverend he says that all of the evidence shows that no force was used? >> yeah. when you look at his spine is 80% severed, it shows a pattern of quite negligence. and for the mayor and for the police commissioner and that precinct captain needs to be held accountable. three different things. number one, they still don't have probable cause as to why they even arrested him. number two, they cannot give accountability for their lapse in time. and number three, never in the history of respiratory illnesses has an asthma attack led to your spine being broken. and i think that the police department is in fact somewhere

between hallway patrol and lost in space to say that there's been absolutely no excessive force. that's why the citizens of baltimore are outraged and we're going to city hall thursday at 3:00. >> mark you know the mayor has come on "new day," mayor of baltimore, she's also said she can't get answers. why can't they get answers out of the police department? >> that's a big question. it's not just us who are asking. every person in this town is asking. the national spotlight's in this town waiting for answers. they're saying they can't give answers because the law enforcement officer allows a certain amount of days before officers are compelled to testify or talk to investigators. that's been a big issue we found in our investigation that the law favors the officers and they tried to change that this year and the mayor was down there fighting for that but they couldn't overcome the fraternal order of police lobbying. >> reverend what does baltimore need to change? wat do all the people who turned out last night for that protest want to see happen? >> there's got to be a complete

overhaul of the criminal justice system not just in baltimore but across the country. we're seeing a pattern of a hunting season on black men across america from ferguson to sanford to staten island now here in baltimore. it's so necessary for loretta lynch to be confirmed so the whole area is fumigated and we start from the bottom. >> mark puente reverend thank you for your information. we'll talk to you again. over to chris. overseas saudi arabia says air strikes in yemen are ending because operation decisive storm has achieved its goals. and yet yemen is an all-out battleground as houthi rebels are marauding through the southeast of the country. the sea as precarious as on land. u.s. forces now watching for arm shipments from iran. let's get the latest from cnn's international correspondent frederik pleitgen in tehran. fred the latest from there. >> reporter: yeah. good morning, chris. and the skies are supposed to be

silent over yemen but apparently they are not. the latest information we've been getting is apparently the houthi rebels apparently tried to overrun a base and when that happened air strikes were called in. the saudis struck the houthi rebels and pushed them back. so seems while the cease-fire, while the cessation of bombardment seems to be happening in most of the country, there are stilg incidents happening. all of this is causing friction between the united states and iran. for a very long time iran has criticized the u.s.'s position on yemen. and at the same time you have the u.s. and iran trying to improve their relations among things with this nuclear deal that's going on. i was able to speak to the top commander of iran's ground forces. this is a man who normally never speaks to western television. and he says there is still a long way to go. i want to read you what he told me. he said at the moment we consider the united states to be a threat to us because the policies and actions are threatening to us. we would like the u.s. to change its rhetoric and tone of voice

so that our nation could have more trust in the u.s. military leadership. we trust the american people but the tone of the u.s. government and military officials is such that we would still consider the u.s. a threat. of course the same is true in the other direction. there's still a lot of fiery rhetoric coming out of tehran especially in regards to that standoff that's going on at sea between those iranian vessels and the u.s. the iranians are saying they have no desire to try and sail towards yemeni waters. they say the only thing they want to do is try and provide humanitarian assistance to yemen. michaela. >> all right, fred. let's dig deeper on that. president obama is delivering a strong message to iran about aiding those houthi rebels as u.s. warships patrol the gulf of aden ready to cut off the flow of arms to those rebels. cnn's michelle kosinski has the latest for us from the white house. >> reporter: good morning. the white house has made it clear that the u.s. is absolutely ready to physically stop iran or backup others from stopping iran and getting

anymore weapons to the houthis in yemen. the white house doesn't want to spell it out in those terms. they're really reluctant to do so. they've been reciting almost as a mantra almost 15 times in yesterday's briefing that the mission of u.s. warships in that region is to protect the free flow of navigation and commerce. but they also said that the international community is resolute in enforcing a new u.n. resolution barring the transfer of weapons to the houthis. and that the u.s. stands shoulder-to-shoulder in that goal. here's what president obama had to say about the situation. >> what we've said to them is is that if their weapons delivered to factions within yemen, they could threaten navigation that's a problem. and we're not sending them obscure messages. we send them very direct messages about it. >> reporter: and he said part of that message is clear to iran that they need to be part of the solution and not the problem.

alisyn. >> okay michelle. thanks so much for that. well we have some breaking news this morning. french officials say they have foiled an imminent terror attack at a church. the 24-year-old algerian suspect was detained on sunday in paris after accidentally shooting himself. police found a blood trail leading to his car where they discovered loaded guns. and they found more guns later in his home. the suspect had already been flagged as a security risk last year. also breaking hundreds of migrants rescued in the mediterranean sea are now back on land this morning. this rescue came on the heels of a weekend disaster believed to have killed 800 migrants after their boat capsized. let's get to carl at the port in sicily where the rescue ship just docked. a little bit of relief at least in this part of the story, carl. >> reporter: absolutely, chris. for the last hour we've been watching 446 migrants coming off that italian naval vessel. they have been adrift by according to early survivor

accounts eight days in the mediterranean since heading south in the coast of egypt. some survivors say they were transferred to six different vessels on their way here because one gang of people smugglers would then pass them onto a different gang. and as you look at those people coming off that boat you just get a sense of how bad things really must be back at home because we have seen women with babes in arms coming down the gangplank. we have seen toddlers so small that they seem to stagger along taking their first steps towards a new life. now, there's a lot of syrians onboard there. they're obviously fleeing the civil conflict there. there are egyptians onboard as well. things as we know have turned bad there since the breakdown of democracy in egypt. and a lot of subsaharan africans from west africa and from the horn of africa as well. the italian police also on hand here though they're going to be combing through the passengers on that vessel to see if they can find any trace of the people traffickers. back to you, michaela. >> such a horrifying scenario.

good to see those people reach dry land. thanks so much for that karl. meanwhile, a nightmare at sea of a different sort. a trip to paradise turns into a nightmare for passengers and crew aboard a carnival cruise ship off the coast of australia. thousands of vacationers were caught in a once-in-a-decade storm producing some 30-foot waves at sea. passengers are grateful to be back on land and now recounting that harrowing experience. our senior international correspondent iranevan watson has more on their tale. >> reporter: you're right, one passenger called this a nightmare. can you imagine these 2,000 people forced to basically ride out the storm aboard this cruise ship when the main port in sydney had to close because the storm was just so severe. so these tourists they got a lot more than they bargained for when they went out on this cruise.

horror off the coast of australia. this is the view of over 2,000 passengers stranded on a carnival cruise ship near sydney. the east coast of the country slammed by a once-in-a-decade deadly storm. the waves up to 30 feet high with winds surpassing 60 miles an hour forcing the ship packed with 800 children to stay outside the harbor overnight tuesday. sydney officials say it was too risky. >> this is the first time i've had this close to port and first time i've ever refused entry to a cruise ship. >> reporter: passengers back on land wednesday morning describe a nightmare. >> i've been on a cruise before and i never had this experience in my whole entire life. i was petrified. >> reporter: the carnival company no stranger to stranded cruise liners. in 2010 carnival splendor was

left off the coast of san diego for three days due to an engine fire. and in 2013 carnival triumph suffered a similar fate in the gulf of mexico leaving passengers helpless for nearly a week. but this time the massive storm whipping australia's coastline, banging fishing boats against the shore and sweeping entire homes off their foundation is the reason carnival cruise line's vice president says this delay was unavoidable. now, the passengers are back safe on dry land but the australian city of sydney the southeastern coast of australia are still reeling from this storm. police say that at least four people have been killed by this severe weather over the last two days. police telling me that the most recent fatality was an 86-year-old woman whose car was swept away by a flood, by a

river that flooded its banks. a top official in this state of australia saying "this storm was much more severe than originally anticipated." back to you guys. >> thank you very much for the reporting on it. the storm clearly more than just a carnival cruise ship calamity. >> that looked very unpleasant. being trapped on that boat must have been so scary. >> yeah. >> do any cruise ships just come into port uneventfully anymore? >> i feel they do. and i know you're going to go to the extreme, but most do, alisyn. >> but we don't report on those. >> right. >> you're not going to take a cruise now. >> i've never really been enticed by the idea being on a cruise and now this kind of shuts it down for me. >> one of the things you have to know that as big as those cruise ships are and they're like apartment building on their sides, the ocean wins. there is no ship that has any -- we're all just corks on the water out there when poseidon decides fate. >> i like your fisherman philosophy. >> people like this is the

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welcome back. saudi arabia says air raids in yemen were going to end because operation decisive storm had achieved its goals. but it turned out to be less than decisive because air strikes are resuming shortly after they ended after houthi rebels continue to destroy the country. so the focus now moves from land to sea. and remember those iranian ships, the mystery cargo according to the allies. and what will happen when they meet the u.s. ships in the gulf of aden? those are big issues surrounding a situation that's ever-more confusing. we'll call it yemen. let's bring in co-author of

"going to tehran," a former state department mideast analyst under both clinton and bush. and mr. christopher harmer senior naval analyst at the institute for the study of war and a former deputy director for the u.s. navy's fifth fleet in bahrain. thanks to you both for being here. hillary, let's start with the top view of what is going on here. you say the u.s. isn't quite sure why saudi arabia started this conflict. i didn't even know that saudi arabia did start the conflict. they probably wouldn't agree with that. why do you assess it that way? >> well saudi arabia has been militarily involved and trying to manipulate political outcomes in yemen for decades. the last time they did this in 2009 they lost militarily to the houthis. this time around i think there's a lot of confusion here in washington both in terms of why the saudis are doing this and what are their goals. do they have any achievable goals here? >> but i thought this was about

iran. that iran was funding the houthi rebels and they destroyed the government and making the country a terrorist hideaway. >> that's certainly the narrative. but there's very little evidence if any, there's no public evidence of iranian arming or doing any kind of significant arming of the houthis in yemen. the houthis have long-been marginalized in yemen. and they've long been a restive rebellious population. trying to roll back the outcome and install their puppet the president haidi who has now fled to saudi arabia. this idea that it's all about iran is intended to get the united states involved in yet another war without end, yet another damaging conflict for the united states to help prop up saudi goals, which are not in u.s. interests. >> and that takes us christopher, to one of the points of confusion here which is that there was an allied

military mission called operation decisive storm which i think today's the first i ever said those words and that it achieved its goals. i want to put up the graphic of what those goals were and you tell me if any of these are even close to being achieved, prevent takeover by houthis, protect neighboring countries, neutralize the houthi military prevent the flow of weapons, protect yemen's government. how can you say any of those have been achieve snd. >> you can't say any of those have been achieved. i think what happened is the saudis got caught up in a conflict they really weren't sure why they got into it they're not sure how to get out of it. i think they're declaring victory and walking away but they certainly did not achieve any of their strategic objectives. the saudis are an inherently inward looking military structure. they're mostly concerned about internal instability. they are concerned about iranian influence, they are concerned about what happens in yemen, but they are built to suppress internal dissent. they're not built to conduct

external operations. i don't think they knew what they were getting into here. why they conducted some spectacular air strikes, blew up some buildings, it hasn't had an effect on the ground in yemen significantly. they continue to take their fight to the pro-government forces. >> spectacular meaning they looked good but probably didn't achieve much. operation decisive storm we can certainly qualify that's what it's done to u.s. interest. chris, with your naval expertise, what do you make of this iran interdiction on the waters? what do you think the chances are they're carrying weapons this flagrantly into a possible scenario with the u.s. ships there? and do you think there will be any kind of conflict? >> i'm absolutely certain the iranians are proliferating weapons to the houthis in one way or another. i'm not sure they're on these specific ships. we do not interdict vessels. it would take a significant change in u.s. policy in order for the u.s. navy to actually

interdict, and seize these vessels. what we're doing is sending a message to the iranians that the united states navy is keeping track of what the iranian navy and shipping lines are doing. i don't expect anything to come of this. i think it's showmanship on both parts, iran and the united states. >> do we look bad here the united states? hillary, when i say we i mean the united states. because if we were doing a show of force as christopher suggests the iranians basically thumb their nose at us and say we don't care what you're doing, we're trying to be humanitarian. why are you here? >> that's right. there are going to be two winners in this conflict in yemen. one is going to be al qaeda which is strengthened by the saudi action that we're supporting so we're enabling the rise and spread of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, one of the most brutal terrorist groups on the planet. and iran iran will be the other winner. because they will come out of this having supported dialogue diplomacy, humanitarian aid. that's what we always miss about iran. we focus on the armed component of their strategy but the profound benefit of their strategy for iran is the soft

power strategy where they politically empower these marginalized groups whether it's the houthis in yemen, the shia in iraq shia in lebanon, the hamas in palestine, that's what they do. they politically empower these groups and that's where they get their real influence. the train has left the station here. iran's influence in yemen is now solid. we've lost yet again in another battlefield to iran in the soft power arena. in yemen iran has won the soft power argument. and al qaeda's won the military battle there. >> hillary, hard truth about soft power there from hillary. the good news is both you and christopher helped us understand better but done miserable in - renewing the -- thank you for helping what's going on. freddie gray suffered what turned out to be a fatal spinal cord injury while in police custody. but how it happened remains a

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good to have you back with us here on "new day." the justice department is now investigating the death of freddie gray the baltimore man who died from severe spine injuries a week after being arrested. baltimore police have only said that gray suffered a tragic injury to his spinal cord but how did that happen? i want to turn to dr. lawrence who is a forensic scientist. good to have you here with us. >> good morning. >> there's so much we don't know. and there's so much speculation. but i kind of want to start with the facts of what we do know at this point about the case. >> sure. >> mr. gray was arrested on april 12th. he was put into the van by the police after his arrest. and we also know sadly that he died from injury to his spinal cord. now, there's a whole list larry, of things we don't know. when injury happened how it happened and the specific spinal cord injury. when you hear this spinal cord

injury what kind of force would it require to hurt him in this way? >> well it really depends. i think the spinal cord injury was secondary to the fractured vertebrae. >> okay. >> these were cervical vertebrae. and there could have been a dislocation. and in fact we don't know exactly when the spinal cord was severed. 80% severed. it could have happened at the same time the vertebrae were fractured, or it could have happened secondarily when he was already in the van. his head his neck was not immobilized, which is what should be done in a neck injury. >> okay. let's actually pull up. i've got the video here on the magic wall. and we can show it here for you. again, it's all very gruesome and difficult to watch. when you see this video you're talking about the fact you believe there was some sort of initial trauma that he suffered. >> well unfortunately we don't have the events that occurred

prior to the beginning of this video. he obvious had been taken down. he had been tackled by the police. >> did you see this part? i mean his head -- this is so hard to talk about. his head is loling, his legs are dragging this isn't necessarily a suspect trying to resist arrest. >> it appears there was trauma to the spinal cord. whether or not it had been severed at that point is unclear. >> would he have been able to talk if it had been severed? would he have been able to breathe? >> he would have been able to talk. respiration would have been affected by a severed spinal cord depending upon where the damage occurred in the neck. there could have been quad raplegia or paraplegia. >> here's a wider video. we'll keep going. one of the things we don't understand is when he went into the van he was able to breathe. he was talking. he was moving. but he was not walking without help. when he came out of the van he

was not talking and he was not breathing. >> and that's why i raise the possibility that while he was in the van his neck had not been immobilized. the van could have jolted or he could have rotated his head or hyperextended his head. >> it wouldn't take much at that point after that initial trauma? >> i don't think so. we really need to know what the damaged vertebrae looked like. and we won't know that until we see x-rays and autopsy results. >> that is expected later today. >> correct. >> it will fill in a lot of the blanks or all of the blanks for you? >> it will fill in some of the blanks but it will not really describe when the initial injury occurred. that's something that will remain a mystery unless the investigation reveals more information. >> okay. so we know that the injury was to his spinal cord. obviously we're looking at an x-ray sort of vision. we're not seeing the skin. would there have been external bruising? >> not necessarily. but the damage would have been in this region right over here. >> okay. right around here?

>> right around here. we don't know which vertebrae were affected. but an injury to the cervical vertebrae could result in problems going down the spinal cord. >> oh it would affect the legs. >> absolutely. >> an injury here would have affected the legs here. >> clearly, yes. >> that's interesting. freddie gray's family has said that he had surgery for three fractured neck vertebrae and a crushed voicebox. so the crushed voicebox would be in the front. >> yes. this is still a little bit mysterious. again, the possibility is that when he was tackled, the weight of the police officer and his own weight causing an impact to the neck could explain most if not all of those observations. >> i want to go back to this timeline. i'll run through it very briefly. we know at 8:39 gray was arrested. he runs from the police officers is arrested a minute later. at 8:42 they call for a prisoner transport.

we see the video there. he was able to talk and was breathing at this time. 8:54 -- there's a lot of questions about this additional restraints were put on mr. gray. we don't know for what reason and how they were put on him. but then fast forward it's all of this time here. all of this time here. 9:24 an ambulance is called to the police station for mr. gray. this is the time larry, that we don't know anything about. >> that's correct. but as you pointed out, the restraints were put on at 8:54. the restraint that should have been put on is a neck brace of some sort. >> interesting. >> this is a total unknown, but i do think it's possible that the cord sustained further injury in the van. that's a possibility. he was talking, so i don't know what this means about a crushed larynx. it's not necessarily consistent with what we're hearing. >> doctor always a pleasure. as hard as it is to walk through

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more demonstrations planned today outside the baltimore police department to protest the death of freddie gray who suffered severe spinal cord injury while in police custody. the police finally releasing the names of the six officers suspended with pay following gray's arrest. four are relatively new to the force, two have more than a decade of expeeshsrienceexperience. the justice department launching a civil investigation. afghan taliban launching attacks. spokesman announcing a spring offensive what it calls foreign occupiers at a time when

u.s.-led forces are pulling back from the front lines. it will also be the first time afghan security forces won't have the full support of nato combat forces. the senate as early as tomorrow may finally vote on the confirmation of loretta lynch as attorney general. more than five months after she was nominated by the president. now, majority leader mitch mcconnell says a bipartisan deal on an unrelated human trafficking bill which again has absolutely nothing to do with lynch and has been twist sbood a tool for petty politics nevertheless that deal clears the way for the lynch vote despite broad based and bipartisan approval for lynch, she's waited longer for confirmation. if confirmed lynch would be the first african-american female to hold the post. here's some heart pounding video to show you. this is out of washington, d.c. look at this. a man in a wheelchair rolls off the platform falling on to the subway tracks. this happened tuesday afternoon. bystanders rushed to help him. the victim was unable to move.

fortunately, they are able to pull him to safety. they lifted his wheelchair and immediately alerted authorities. the man was taken to the hospital. he is expected to be okay. we're happy to report. >> we've seen strollers and wheelchairs happen. could they not put just an ever so slight lip? >> no because they're afraid of people tripping as they get into the train. and then people stuck between the trains. >> yeah because i guess they can't be flush. >> they say the question is moving back the entire cue. you know you see that line there nobody observes? >> yeah. >> that would help if you had some kind of semblance of order like you do in london. >> wasn't he behind -- >> this man's in a wheelchair. who knows went out of control with his brake or whatever and allowed him to roll. but i have to tell you this is the show of the uncheery kicker. this is nice. people came to this man's aid. >> a kind of squirrel on a surfboard. >> i'm going to find a cat

playing a trombone. >> this is a near death kicker. all right. alison kosik, save us with some business news. >> this isn't the greatest news but what the cdc is saying with this outbreak of listeria and blue bell ice cream, they're saying it's been going on since 2010. this week blue bell recalled every product sold in 23 states because of the potential health risk. this year three people have died and ten others have gotten sick from the bacteria. so this is interesting, prosecutoring are pinning the 2010 flash craft on one guy, a stock trader in the uk. the 37-year-old was arrested for causing the chaos on may 6th when the dow fell 600 points in a matter of minutes. he's accused of flooding the market with big orders and making $9 million as the market fell and rebounded. okay so gas is cheap, down more than a dollar from this time last year. but for some reason people are ditching their hybrids and electric cars opting for suvs. so far this year only 45% of

people trading in a hybrid bought another one. the silver lining here is that new suvs are becoming more fuel efficient. the little bit of ironic twist i bring you on this day though is that it's earth day. happy earth day everybody. they're trading in their hybrids for sort of gas guzzlers. >> on earth day, that is an interesting proposition. thanks so much alison. it's only 19 months to the presidential election. candidates are busy building up their bank accounts. why are white house hopefuls already raking in the cash? and who is leading the charge? we'll take a look. financial noise financial noise financial noise

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all right. let's talk money. the 2016 presidential election will likely be the most expensive ever. next week hillary clinton will hold five fundraisers in just two days. jeb bush has already had 47 fundraisers. >> that's a lot of rubber chicken. >> that's a lot considering he hasn't gotten into the race. >> true. >> that's just been since january. so let's look at all the money pouring into this election. >> the keyword there is pac.

let's get some perspective. cnn political commentator ryan lizzo. great to have you both here. when we say expensive it's really expensive for the voters right? ryan the most expensive ever. >> yeah. >> the rules is all about legal money. that's the problem. is there any way to qualify the corruption of the system? >> you're not going to fix this system unless you have a constitutional amendment, right? the supreme court has said that -- the supreme court set up these new rules. >> citizens united unless you have a better case. >> right. so you have these outside groups now. if i'm a candidate running for president, i can go to you and get whatever it is $2,700. i've got to raise $2,700 from as many people as possible. if i'm a super pac i can go to you and get as much as you want to give me $1 million. everything is now flowing to these outside super pacs because they can raise money in unlimited amounts. so you're seeing the campaigns now outsource all of their internal polling and tv ads now

to these new super pacs. that's the big development in 2016. >> the idea these are outside groups. if you look at it right now, jeb bush has not declared he's a candidate. so he has his outside group, which is the right to rise super pac. he can show up at the events and raise money until he declares. this weekend, sunday monday he's going to be in miami with some of the biggest donors for the right to rise super pac. they're going to give their donations, they're going to meet his campaign staff. but when he actually announces, they're going to have to sever ties. >> which gets into the issue of this system -- >> sever. you have to do this sara. >> jeb is probably going to have his most trusted adviser run the super pac. the supreme court says you can't coordinate. so jeb can't talk to his super pac once they get it set up. so you have the smoke and mirrors in the pre-process and then you separate the two groups. >> i remember the last two presidential elections, the astronomical number of what it costs makes you physically sick. >> billions.

>> right. and the idea this one is going to be more what is the estimate for this one? >> well i think these numbers are always wrong, but for hillary clinton they're saying with the outside groups and her own campaign $2 to $3 billion, with a b, for the primaries and general election if she makes it that far. >> when we talk about astronomical money here at the end of the campaign in 2012 they were just calling state director state director in ohio what do you need? >> because they over fund raised? >> they had all the money they kind of needed at that point. >> there's no restriction. >> there's only a certain amount of air time you can buy. when you've bought all the field time do you need to add your staff, do you need more interns. >> given that can they dial it back a little? >> the plan for both hillary clinton and to a lesser extent jeb bush is to overwhelm any potential candidates and make sure you don't have any competition. >> look at dr. ben carson, sure not your big headliner, may not

come in and steal an election but that's what it used to be about is divergent opinions coming in and testing you as the big dog in the raise. now they all say the same thing, i got to see if i can get the money. >> to play devil's advocate one thing the super pacs allow you to do if you're an obscure candidate with a billionaire backer in the old days george w. bush could come in and raise money from individual people and clear the field. now you can set up a super pac who can keep your campaign going longer than it would have been in the old days. >> apparently you need the billionaire. that's the insult to the process here as the word everyday american is now being injected back and everybody saying everyday american now taking us back into the '50s of that type of exploiting of the middle class. but it's not about everyday americans, is it? it's all about how much money you can raise. >> i think it depends what side of the aisle you're on on that. yes, you need to raise a lot of money. but i think if you're hillary clinton you want to be able to bring in the small donations too

because barack obama did it. and you want to be able to prove you're a candidate of the people. i think on the republican side they haven't put as much effort into this they haven't put as much focus into this. and for the rest of the field if your name is not jeb bush they do they say, look we might not have as many guys that can bring in $50,000 each but what we have is a billionaire. >> presidential hopeful ted cruz really hit on this. he talked about this having to constantly fund raise, let me read to you what he said. i told my 6-year-old daughter running for office is real simple you just surgically disconnect your shame sensor because you spend every day asking people for money. you walk up and say, how are you doing, sir, can i have money, great to see you, lovely shirt, please give me money. that's what running for office is like. has anything more poetic ever been said? >> it's a long way from schoolhouse rock in terms of teaching kids about our democracy. that i think, to your point of what's corrupting about this is if you were a politician and you have to spend all your time with this sort of class of multimillionaires and

billionaires, that is corrupting to your view of the world. that changes your sense of what issues are really important. when these guys go to say the koch brother conference to try to win their support, they have issues like anyone else but not necessarily the top issues on the minds of american people. when you go to one of the billionaires in las vegas, he has a set of narrow issues that are not the ones the american people are talking about. i think that's as much as the money that is what is corrupting. >> most fundamental test of leadership sara is you go first on tough situations. do you think we'll hear anybody come out and say i'm not going to raise the money like all these other people i'm not going to play this game with these super pacs i'm going to be about you and coming to you. >> i would be beyond shocked if you saw anyone do that. i think that you will see people say, look we don't like the system we don't like the super pacs. we have to play by the rules that everyone else is playing by. nobody wants to be the person who can't raise money. so i think you're going to see them all do the same thing even if they say they have to hold

their nose and do it. >> ryan sara thank you. we'll talk to you again in 566 days. >> the big story and there are a lot this morning. let's get right to the news. the justice department has now launched a civil rights investigation. >> what was he arrested for? that is unclear to me. >> saudi arabia is ending its air campaign inside yemen. >> i don't understand what's going on. >> the u.s. warships now yemen watching for arm shipments for iran. >> daily hundreds and hundreds of migrants arriving. the italian authorities struggling to deal with them. >> these migrants are coming from failed states countries simply under nobody's control. >> ten doctors are accused oz of promoting what they call quack treatments. >> he will not be silenced. we will not give in. >> he's not practicing medicine he's bring novel ideas. >> this is "new day" with chris

cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. spring morning looking out over new york there. good morning everyone. welcome back to your "new day." there is anger stilling over in baltimore this morning. the first major demonstrations over the death of freddie gray who died of spinal injuries one week after being taken into police custody. with no answers, protesters took their message to the steps of city hall and baltimore police headquarters. >> those police are now releasing the names of the six officers suspended with pay. the justice department is jumping in with a civil rights investigation. so let's begin our coverage in baltimore with cnn's suzanne malveaux. suzanne. >> reporter: well chris, i was at that protest last night where i saw freddie gray's mother collapse with grief, where we saw the brother there screaming for justice. well we expect the family members, protesters those in the community to be here at city hall tomorrow to demand answers. it has been ten days now since freddie gray was taken into

police custody. and three days since he died. and we still have very little information. the voices of demonstrators united making their point clear. baltimore is fed up. the baltimore police department lined with barricades and officers protesters standing firm with their demand for justice. >> how do you take a man, put him in handcuffs and give him as you want to hurt him dead. >> we hear the frustration of the community. we hear the angst and the hurt in the gray family. and we have an obligation to make sure that we are as open and transparent with this investigation as we can be. >> reporter: freddie gray's mother shielding her face overcome with grief tuesday, still unable to lay her son to rest. police have yet to turn over his body. the family plans to conduct a second private autopsy. the baltimore sun quoting the family as saying before he died

gray underwent surgery for three fractured vertebrae in his neck and a crushed larynx. >> i don't know at what point mr. gray suffered the traumatic and fatal injuries. i don't know. but i'm determined to get to the bottom of it. >> reporter: the department of justice says it's now launching their own probe to determine if any civil rights were violated. and this week baltimore police department releasing the names of all six officers who were directly involved if the april 12th arrest. five men and one woman, their ages ranging from 25 to 45 four of them relatively new to the force, the other two have at least 15 years of experience with the department. all six suspended with pay. authorities stressing that the actions taken against them in no way implies any wrongdoing in the arrest. the baltimore police department promises to wrap up their investigation by next friday. now, today is the day that investigators will start to

interview those involved in the arrest. in the meantime the mayor says she is pushing the governor to release the body of freddie gray to the family as quickly as possible. chris. >> all right, suzanne. let's talk about political action here. we want to bring in mary washington a maryland house delegate representing baltimore. and mr. charles sid ner, also a american house delegate representing baltimore county. thank you to both of you. does it seem obvious to you that the police the baltimore police for good or bad, right or wrong, should not be leading the investigation into this situation? that it seems to be causing unnecessary delay and outrage among your constituents ms. washington? >> good morning. and thank you so much for covering the stories. and i want to extend my sympathies and our deep sorrow to the family of freddie gray and to all the family who is are bearing the burden of excessive police force in our country, across our state and our country. we as the house of delegates and

members of the house of delegates in the senate have been trying to pass legislation that would reform what is called the law enforcement officer's bill of rights which actually provides special rights to police officers. and in fact gets in the way or delays the investigations. under maryland law, which is one of the strongest in the country or the most restrictive in the country, a supervisor cannot even interview an officer that is accused of misconduct. >> right. >> and then also additionally -- >> right. >> -- until ten days. >> right. because there's a union contract. there's no question there's an impediment. but under the existing laws certainly the governor has the ability to appoint an independent review and create the transparency that everybody says they want but seems to be in short supply here. >> good morning as well.

you're correct, unfortunately. it's my understanding that our governor has punted and said that he's going to wait and see what happens here locally in baltimore. i believe that perception is reality. and if the people perceive that unfairness is occurring, then i think it will be in everyone's best interest if our governor would appoint a special investigation to look into this. >> legislators have similar authorities though. obviously you're the equivalent of the representatives of that state. you have the second chamber within your legislature as well. but you have the ability to say we need an outside review here. if you listen to the captain last night, we just played his sound in the piece there. i want to play it again because i think it really captures what the frustration is here right or wrong, about the process. listen to it please. >> we're going to follow the facts where they go. the deputy commissioner said no

force was used. all of the evidence that we have at this time indicates that there was no force used. there was no bruising there was no indication of any sort of broken bones. however, that investigation is still ongoing. >> now, when you hear the captain saying let's assume everything he's saying is in good faith and true it doesn't hold with the citizens because of the obvious nature of how mr. gray looked when they were dragging him into that van. and unless they're lying about the autopsy, about the injuries that he had, ms. washington. it can't be that nothing happen today him. it can't be that there's no evidence. >> absolutely. right. and all communities should feel that we have the trust and respect of law enforcement and to be able to ensure that they're going to protect and serve. and absolutely we've been relentless decade after decade in calling for changes and reform and police accountability. look until the community has an active role in being able to be

able to participate and discipline to be able to directly participate in interview and we need to close the amount of time that is needed between an officer being able -- between an incident and when a supervisor is able to actually talk to an officer. all of these are changes that not only have to happen in maryland but are being called for across the country. >> uh-huh. now, baltimore is not ferguson missouri. i know a lot of people bring that up because of the incident and sparking of outrage. i don't think that's fair. every situation has to be judged on its own merits. but we did see one parallel delay is a problem. justice delayed is justice denied. no matter what the findings are. and that's the one concern here. of course there's a big history with baltimore. of course it's very involved on many levels culturally. but don't you think the time to

act has to be now? that you can't say it will it will it will. it has to be now, mr. sidner. >> no the time to act is now. what we have to ensure is that freddie gray what has happened there is a crisis. we have to ensure that what happens in this investigation ensures that there are no more freddie grays. the time is now. the nation the city the people in these communities who are voicing their concern, their right to protest in the streets every day who are committed to ensuring that justice is served not only in this instance but that it is used as a catalyst to ensure that legislation is moved across the state, across the country. and i welcome -- we welcome the federal investigation. >> but the federal investigation, miss washington -- sorry to interrupt you. but mr.sid ner, the federal investigation is a very different and very high barre. that's going to go to the

culture of policing that's going to whatever was done as a crime based on mr. gray's race. that's a very high barre and often sets people up for disappointment. the question is what can you do be doing right now. right or wrong it may come out that this is an unfortunate circumstance where it winds up being no one's fault criminally in terms of responsibility. how do you speed up this process as it all stands now? >> well i'll tell you what we have done in the general assembly this past year. we passed a bill house bill 533, which would enable the police departments across the state of maryland to have body cameras. now, i'm not saying that body cameras will be the end all, be all to stop the deaths of future freddie grays, but what i'm saying is it would provide a lot more information to these types of incidents and the engagements between citizens and police

officers than what we have currently today. >> and we know that it's a pilot program. i'm looking for that governor to sign that legislation because the legislation is emergency legislation which will go in effect immediately. >> well we will look into that. we're going to keep covering this situation. ms. washington a final thought please. >> well again, the final thought is that our communities are continuing to engage we must stay vigilant on this. and be very clear that this is not simply about a particular case. it is about the institution of policing and ensuring that we as citizens are a part of that. that there are direct relationships between misconduct the ability of police chiefs to be able to exercise discipline the ability of communities to actually be a part of the governance and the management and how police forces are operating in our cities. >> understood. >> and our states. and that is really the only true

solution is to make sure that the people who are being policed are a part of ensuring the public safety. >> understood. and thank you to both of you for being on "new day" this morning. we will speak again. alisyn. okay chris. more news to report this morning. saudi arabia launching new air strikes against houthi rebels in yemen just hours after claiming to have ended them. saudi arabia says they want to focus on a political solution to the crisis. cnn's becky anderson is live in abu dhabi with the very latest. seems like the message out of saudi arabia is confusing, becky. >> reporter: yes. they didn't use the phrase mission accomplished but the saudi defense spokesman did say that the military goals of the air operation have been achieved. now, operation decisive storm, they say, has succeeded in destroying houthi military capabilities and protecting the kingdom from any potential attack. so it seems that confident it's time to shift the confidence to

finding a political solution with what's being called operation restoring hope. the reality on the ground i think, alisyn is much less clear. as you rightly point out overnight reports of air strike no official line why but they have clearly failed to entirely push back the houthis from the capital nor have they been completely defeated in aden. and into the vacuum al qaeda affiliates in yemen have strengthened. why terminate this military campaign now? it's where it's slightly nuanced i think. first the entire month-long effort has drawn intense criticism even in washington for causing civilian casualties and destroying infrastructure in what is the poorest arab country in the arab world. so continuing that policy wasn't sustainable. secondly sources i've been speaking to say the houthis despite their public posturing have indicated they'll abide by the demands of a cease-fire and

return to the negotiating table. so some thanks from the, quote, legitimate yemen president last night in a speech. we will have to see though what happens next on the ground because clearly things are ongoing, michaela. >> becky, we thank you for that mpkts meanwhile on the ocean a show of american force on the high seas. u.s. warships patrolling the gulf of aden and what president obama says is a clear and direct message to iran against sending arms to those houthi rebels in yemen. cnn's michelle kosinski is following this live from the white house. >> reporter: it's interesting the way the white house has been framing this. they won't even say what exactly would happen what the u.s. would do if say today along comes an iranian ship bearing arms for the houthis. the white house says they don't want to speculate about it but they've been repeating over and over again almost like a mantra maybe more than a dozen times in the briefing yesterday that the mission of u.s. ships in the region is to protect the free

flow of navigation and commerce. but they also said that the international community is resolute as they put it in enforcing a new u.n. security council resolution barring the transfer of weapons to the houthis and that the u.s. stands shoulder-to-shoulder in that mission. so making it very clear that this is going to be enforced. here's president obama on the situation. >> what we've said to them is is that if there are weapons delivered to factions within yemen that could threaten navigation that's a problem. and we're not sending them obscure messages. we send them very direct messages about it. >> reporter: and the white house also isn't saying exactly how they're conveying this message to the iranians but they say it's very clear and that iran needs to be part of the solution. chris. >> all right, michelle thank you very much. we're also following breaking news. eight days that's how long some of these surviving migrants lasted in the mediterranean sea

after their boat capsized. they were returned to land this morning. and these survivors and aid workers are telling cnn that it was just a horror for them but they survived. it appears the ship set sail from egypt. after that migrants were put on six different ships from one gang of traffickers to another. they were finally rescued by the italian navy. this comes in the wake of another ship wreck believed to have killed 800 migrants. the volunteer tulsa deputy who shot an unarmed man in that sting operation has pleaded not guilty. and now he's headed to the bahamas. a judge ordered robert bates to return to court on july 2nd but first approved his vacation his request i should say to go on a month-long vacation. the trip drawing an angry response from the victim's family saying his decision to go on vacation simply sends a message of apathy. actor ben affleck says he regrets trying to keep his family's slave owning past from

being broadcast calling the discovery embarrassing. he posted quite a long lengthy post on facebook acknowledging he successfully lobbied the producer of "roots" to keep that information. some are calling it a cover-up. it was uncovered in e-mails that were revealed during the sony hack. >> isn't that so interesting? >> interesting how? what do you think? >> i think it's so interesting that generations later, he's not responsible, but he feels guilt and shame enough to cover it up. >> do you think he's responsible for the cover-up? >> yeah. >> i mean in a bad way. >> i think cover-up is such an egregious word. it's an embarrassment. it's hard for him to reconcile the fact he had ancestors -- because he's clearly not that guy. and to say it's a cover-up i think is overusage of the term. >> i think we still feel shame about people we didn't even know did in our bloodline. >> that's your blood, right? i know. that would be -- >> first of all, anderson cooper did the same thing on the same program. and he had similar

embarrassments come up in his past and he let them air, or in part let anderson speak for himself, but often say don't sanitize the past. that's how you want to remind it. >> my point is look i have a dog in this fight to be sure but i think calling it a cover-up i think it would be an embarrassment, horrifying to know it was in your background. do i support he did it? i understand why, but do i support, i don't know. >> the larger cause, he's coming out now. but it's after he was caught doing it. >> that's a tough one. >> let us know what you think. we'd love to hear from you on twitter. meanwhile, yemen is in turmoil and iran is partly responsible, but the white house has been hesitant to engage iran on the issue. is the administration afraid that the nuclear deal with iran would fall apart if they do? answers from the white house next. we will not be silenced that's coming from dr. oz vowing to keep working for healthier country despite accusations that he's a fraud. he mounted his own defense on tv. and we'll let you take a look at

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white house communications director. >> it's pretty exciting. it's great to be back at the white house. and obviously it's a beautiful day here. so looking forward to you know engaging over the next year and a half. >> well congratulations on your new position. >> thank you. >> it's great to have you there. so honeymoon over. let's get to all of the tense topics. >> i thought it would be short, alisyn but go ahead. >> just a few seconds. all right. we need to talk about what's going on in yemen and what saudi arabia has put out this statement that frankly seems hard to believe this morning. i mean they put it out with their partners including the u.s. and basically they are saying mission accomplished in yemen. they're saying they've accomplished all of their military objectives. how can that be true when we see the chaos on the ground in yemen? >> well, alisyn i think there's a few important things to remember. one is that we support our saudi partners. two, is that there's broad agreement that there's not a military solution here. we're really focused on bringing the parties together. it's a u.n.-led process.

that's wa we feel is the right step. that's what our partners around the world feels the right step and that's where we want to put our energies at this point. there's no question saudi arabia is in the region they're in the area they're worried about their own security. of course we've supported them with their actions. but again we're trying to redirect this to a political discussion here. >> sure. but let me show you what they say in their statement that where they claim to have achieved their objectives because i just want your thoughts on this. here's what they put out in this statement. that they believe they have prevented a takeover by the houthis and that they have protected yemen, they said. that they've protected their neighbors countries, they've neutralized the houthi military they've prevented the flow of weapons they say into the rebels. and they've protected yemen's government. jen, just going through these one by one, preventing the flow of weapons in? just yet we were reporting on how the iranians were sending a ship load of possibly weapons to the houthi rebels.

how can you be making these claims today? >> well and we have our own resources in the region for a reason alisyn as you know. i'll also say though look there's plenty on my plate and the plate of the white house and we're not going to get into a pattern of speaking on behalf of saudi arabia. obviously the job is not done. there's remaining instability in the region in yemen. there's a lot of work that needs to be done. and we're going to be doubling down and continuing to work on that with our partners around the world. >> what makes you think there can be a diplomatic solution there? >> well there's no other solution that's going to work. and this is a case where obviously there's a great deal of instability that's increased over the last couple of weeks even months that we've all been watching closely including cnn. and the fact is that we need all of the parties, all of the factions in the country to come together. obviously the destabilizeing activities of the houthis, their actions are unacceptable. you've seen the u.n. actions over the past couple of days. but this is not a war that can be fought on the battlefield. this is one that we need the

parties to come together. the u.n. has been very persistent in their process and we're continuing to support that. >> given the news about iran possibly supplying weapons to the houthi rebels does it make you rethink the dealings with iran in the nuclear negotiations that we're starting up again this week? >> no, alisyn. i think it's important for people to remember what the goal of the nuclear negotiations is and continues to be which is preventing iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. that is good for the region. it's good for our gulf partners. it's good for the united states. it doesn't mean we're giving rubber stamp approval to their other actions. they continue to be a human rights violator they continue to hold american citizens in their own country. there are still a number of issues that we have with iran. but there's no question preventing them from acquiring a nuclear weapon not just the united states but countries in the region as well. we're going to continue to work toward that at the end of june. >> jen, i want to move on to the trade deal.

the asia pacific trade deal that president obama is pushing. because it's getting a lot of criticism even from members of the president's own party, from fellow democrats. let me play for you what senator harry reid said about this trade bill. >> you couldn't find a person to ask this question who feels more negatively about it than i do. the answer is not only no but hell no. >> it's hard to put a finer point on it than he did. he said hell no he feels so negatively about it. how can the president feel positively about it? >> well first, the president understands that trade agreements in the history of trade agreements like nafta that wasn't enforceable, that didn't have labor and environmental protections has left a bad taste in the mouth of some workers and some democrats. but the fact is this is a trade agreement that does have strong labor enforcement mechanism, that does have strong environmental standards, it's the most progressive trade

agreement we've ever worked on. and if we don't pursue this trade agreement with the tpp, and we need tpa in order to do that then what we're doing is allowing china to make the rules, to set the rules. that certainly is not in the interest of american workers. >> jen, we also want your thoughts and the president's thoughts on what's going on in baltimore. more than 1,000 people turned out because of the anger and frustration over the death of freddie gray. it's mysterious what happened to him. police have not been providing answers. in the past when there have been some police situations the president has spoken out about it. will the president speak out about the death of freddie gray? >> well first, alisyn let me say the president as you noted has spoken out about this on a number of occasions. i will say he's done a number of interviews and press conferences recently where he hasn't been asked either. but this is an issue we're also working hard behind the scenes. as you know there's a task force, doj announced an investigation they'll be doing. there are a lot of details we don't know here. and the fact is we've also taken action by putting money in our

budget for body cameras. the positive aspect here if there is one and this is a small sliver is because the media's talking about this, people are talking about. this this is an issue that people in communities across the country are aware of. fortunately in most cities most towns, there are relationships, strong relationships between the communities and the police forces. there are some cases where that is not the case. and that's something we need to continue to work on. but i can promise you this is an issue the president's working on every single day. >> and off camera what is the president saying about this case? >> well i think any time you see an individual who has lost their life or who's been injured where you don't know the details, your heart goes out to their family. you can as a father as he is as a brother as he is as a cousin as he is look at a situation and not feel for the family and not want to get to the bottom of what's happening. as you know doj has said they're going to be doing an investigation. and obviously we'll be working

with law enforcement authorities around the country on issues like this. >> okay. jen psaki, great to see you. happy earth day. >> great to see you, alisyn. thank you. you too. >> she even wore green for earth day. still ahead the impact of the crisis in yemen is not limited to only that country. could nuclear talks with iran fall apart over differences on how to deal with the issue? we're going to debate from both sides of the aisle next. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can

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here's the situation. u.s. warships are stationed off the shore of yemen. and there is a warning to iran in that statement about shipping weapons to houthi rebels who've been wreaking havoc on yemen, assuming that is true that iran's been doing that. so how will this situation affect ongoing nuclear talks which the u.s. will be in that situation. and do we even have the authority to do any of this? an opportunity to debate this authorize military force against isis hasn't taken those opportunities yet. is it going to change? let's discuss with members of congress themselves. adam schiff, ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, and congressman tom

cole deputy majority wip for the republicans. gentlemen, thank you for being with us on "new day" this morning. i see you are each adorned in the tie color of the opposite party. let's assume that means there is some type of equity going to be here this morning, some kind of joining. let's start with the beginning which is the authorization of use of force. why, i'll start with you congressman schiff why hasn't there been a vote yet? why isn't this happening when obviously the strategy is not settled and not working? >> well, i don't know how to explain it except that we have a convergence of interest for a long time the administration a position that didn't need it necessarily want to force this issue on congress. it has now proposed a draft but at the same time there are many in congress that don't want to vote on this in case things go badly. none of that is an adequate answer though. this is our constitutional role. the constitution gives us power to declare war. if we don't live up to that responsibility now, we set a very dangerous precedent in the

future that i think presidents can make war with or without the blessing of congress. >> deputy majority wip, why don't you shame your members into taking responsibility? if they want to criticize they should debate and vote as well. >> well you know, the process in some ways has begun. we have had hearings. but i agree with you. and i very much agree with my friend adam. the administration initially didn't want this. quite frankly democratic leaders didn't want to vote on it before an election. concern the president's proposed resolution for the authorization of use of force is strong enough. so i get all this but i think adam makes the right point. at the end constitutional authority's like a muscle. you either use it or lose it. and frankly congress is in danger of using war making authority if it doesn't act. >> and, look this has been going on for a long time. but we're also dealing with it right now. and a little bit of the irony here representative schiff is that when it comes to making the deal with iran you could very well argue that the president

has unilateral executive authority there. and yet congress is getting involved. but they won't get involved on the bigger issue on the use of military force overall. let's shift to what's going on with iran and that situation. as we look at the talks, as they restart today, do you believe the u.s. has been sucker sbood these talks on nukes with iran while iran is also running rough shaud anywhere else in the world. >> i don't think the u.s. has been suckered into talks. i think the administration as well as iran tried to compartmentalize the talks so that other very strident and important differences don't prevent us from seeing whether a deal is possible that does away with iran's nuclear weapons program. now, that remains to be seen. there's still significant differences left. we may or may not have a deal but the fact is even if there is a deal it's not going to stop the fact that we have to confront iran's interest to be a

hedge monoin the region, malicious efforts in regions like yemen as well as syria and other places in the region. so this isn't going to be the end with this confrontation in the water. and i don't think it's going to be the end even if there's an agreement on the nuclear issue. >> representative cole the saudis said on behalf of them and their partners that means you guys the united states government that operation decisive storm has achieved its goals. and they outline these five points of what they were trying to get done in yemen. they say they did it. it's almost a laughable assertion given the situation in yemen. why is the united states being party to what's beginning on with saudi arabia there? do you think it's the best move for your national interests? >> well first of all we're not their only partner. >> but you are a partner. >> we are a partner. i think they have a great deal of mistrust in the united states simply because of the iranian negotiation. i was recently there and dealt with senior saudi officials

literally two or three weeks ago as this yemen operation was beginning. but their most reliable partners are the other sunni states, the egyptians egyptians, gulf states, uae are all there with them. we need to be there as well. frankly, i think this is a case where the iranians are overreaching. i think they're causing a great deal of trouble in yemen. this is a place the president called a success story a few months ago and now we've had to leave with our tail between our legs. i think checking iranian aggression is the right thing to do work with our allies. frankly, i hope we continue our aggressive posture. >> although represent cole is kind of arguing the president's case here a little bit, how do you see this as an aggressive posture, congressman schiff? the houthis are running all over yemen. whether or not the iranians are supporting them with arms we don't even know. we haven't heard what gives you that intelligence in goth government. how does the u.s. look strong in yemen right now? >> look i'm confident of the

intelligence that iran has been providing weapons as well as military advice and support to the houthis notwithstanding iranian claims to the contrary. and i think it's important as my colleague says that we have the saudis back that we support them through intelligence logistics and with this show of force in the region in terms of our naval presence. that doesn't mean that we want to necessarily participate in air strikes or have our own ground troops there. i don't think that would be productive. and i don't think that's what the saudis want either. but i do think it's vitally important that we show the gulf states that we're willing to stand up to iran and their malicious actions in the region whether there's a nuclear negotiation going on or not. >> last question when do both of you think there will be a debate and vote on the aumf? >> i don't have a precise day. i just think sooner is better. i think we need to begin the process in a sense it already has begun. we've had hearings in the appropriate committee, but i think you just work through a schedule and let congress work

its will. i think we could come to a consensus. but, again, if we don't do this we're essentially sus seeding authority to the executive branch. that's not bad with this president, it's frankly bad with any president. something congress shouldn't do and the next president will decide this as a precedent. >> tom cole, adam schiff thank you for you both being on "new day." we look forward to seeing action. >> thanks chris. >> alisyn. tv's dr. oz is fighting back against critics accusing him of quack medicine. what is dr. oz saying? ahh, nothing like the peace and quiet of a beach escape. funny, there was no mention of hail in the weather report.

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this month we celebrate my 1,000th show. i know i've irritated some potential allies in our quest to make america healthy. the matter are disagreements, freedom of speech is the most fundamental right we have as americans. and these ten doctors are trying to silence that right. so i vow to you right here right now, we will not be silenced we will not give in. >> that clip is from dr. oz who

plans to address his critics during a special episode of his talk show tomorrow. he is fighting back against a group of ten doctors as you heard him say who are calling for him to lose his position at columbia university's medical school over claims he promotes "quack treatments." joining us senior media correspondent for cnn and host of "reliable sources." interesting i find you and i both watched that very raply. it's interesting he decides to take the attack of free speech. instead of taking on the arguments and criticism of those ten doctors, he talks about the free speech aspect. >> and the first thing i should say is freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism. >> right, absolutely. >> people are open to criticism. and dr. oz especially because he has produced so many episodes of his show talked about so many different elements of medicine and science and health. there are obviously some episodes that he probably has some regrets about. i think he would say that privately. i don't think he'd say that

publicly but maybe privately he would say we went too far in those cases. but he thinks he has a strong stance on this issue about ten doctors because they were going after him partly art gmos genetically modified foods. his position on gmos is he says he's not opposed to them but thinks you should know what is in your food. >> which is fair to say. it's interesting he talks about free speech the ten doctors could say the same thing, we are allowed to be critical and free speech advocates in our own right. >> right. >> i also am curious about this idea of what he's going to do tomorrow. what have you been hearing from people? and what do you think the tact is going to be? >> it's a daytime talk show very happy of the day, usually light hearted format in the middle of the day. if you're watching him, you probably already trust him. that's why you're watching him. >> you're preaching to the choir. >> that's exactly it. and yet he's decided he's going to spend about two-thirds of his show on this topic they taped yesterday. it will air tomorrow. maybe it's a coincidence.

tomorrow's the beginning of the may sweep season. local tv stations always care about ratings. >> you think that's a coincidence. >> maybe it's a coincidence, but it is going to take upmost of the show tomorrow. i think that goes to show he's been under fire for a while now. we saw that you hear it on capitol hill last year and other criticisms more recently he believes with this ten doctors issue he has the higher ground. so it's an opportunity to stand up and defend himself. although it sounds like he's a martyr and a risk of going too far with this. >> i wonder about that from a crisis management approach i mean he's using what he has. he has air time. he has his own broadcast. he has his own soap box where he can sort of stand and defend himself. do you think it's going to be effective to silence those critic sns. >> to go after the ten doctors i think in the full episode he'll go at them more directly and point out some of them have ties to industry -- ties to gmos. >> are you hearing anymore buzz about that? >> some doctors do some don't. some of it's murky. so it's hard to say for sure.

but certainly over the weekend his team was starting to circulate talking points about five of those ten doctors. so he's going to go in more detail on that and try to make this about how some doctors, some physicians do take money from different groups that have interests in various health and medicine. of course dr. oz has endorsement deals too, so i'm not sure his hands are entirely clean. >> that's the whole thing. does the whole thing pass jour smell test? you have a good gut on these things. does it all pass your smell test? he gets 1.8 million viewers a day on his show. he's highly respected by viewers. you might have a different, i don't know people might look at him differently from the medical community. >> yeah, for sure. >> choose my words carefully. but do you think this to use kids words, is it hateration. >> i think dr. oz has been vulnerable vulnerable. whether these doctors are the best to be speaking out against him, i don't know.

but i think he's been vulnerable for a while. he's done almost 1,000 shows. when you have to spend that much time talking about the basics of health and wellness you might go into detours and down you know back alleys that aren't actually the right place to go. great example is the green coffee bean extract. his show later acknowledged they went too far on that one. maybe in other cases that's happened as well. for him it's all about what we get told when we go to the doctor the basics. about eating and working out. >> and maybe he needs to get back to those basics. maybe that's what needs to happen here. listen we're going to find out on thursday. we'll be watching. let us know what your take is you at home. tweet us use #newday. thanks brian. chris. it's a counting game not suitable for kids. so many f-bombs that is. so much bleeping. cincinnati reds manager brian price unleashing an epic expletive filled tirade on reporters. why would he do such a thing? the media's so friendly. we'll tell you ahead. ughing ] want to play hide and seek?

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the justice department now launched a civil rights investigation -- >> i heard the old man screaming, get off my neck get off my neck. >> we are going to figure out what happened. >> the u.s. is conducting man

reconnaissance operations off the water. >> the missing young woman from alabama is believed to have travelled to syria to join isis. >> over 2,000 passengers stranded on a carnival cruise ship. >> this is "new day" with kraoeus chris cuomo and mikhail pierra. the death of freddy gray the 25-year-old who died a week after being taken into custody, a week later he is dead.

>> and the police department now naming the six officers involved and the justice department opening his own civil rights investigation. suzanne malveaux is live. what is the latest. >> i was there last night when freddy gray's mother collapsed in grief, and his brother started chanting demanding justice, and members of the community will gather here at city hall on thursday demanding to find out what happened to freddy gray. it has been ten days since he was taken into police custody, three days since he was dead and now we have very little information from what we had back then. the voices of demonstrators united making their point clear. baltimore is fed up. the police department lined with barricades and protesters and

protesters standing firm. >> we hear the frustration of the community and we hear the angst and hurt of the family and we have an obligation to make sure we are as open and transparent with this investigation as we can be. >> freddy gray's mother shielding her face overcome with grief tuesday, still police have yet to turn over his body. the baltimore sun quoting the family saying before he died he underwent surgery for three crushed vertebrae and a crushed lauren. >> this week baltimore police

department releasing the names of all six officers who were directly involved in the april 12th arrest. five men and one woman, their ages ranging from 25 to 45. four of them relatively new to the force. the other two have at least 15 years of experience with the department. all six suspended with pay. authorities stressing that the actions taken against them in no way implies any wrong doing in the arrest. >> the law enforcement officers will of rights may prohibit a supervisor from interviewing those who have been involved in some sort of altercation or arrest and so therefore for ten days that window has expired and supervisors can talk to the officers directly involved in the arrest of freddy gray, and

the family is hoping their loved one will be returned to them today. >> we are going to get into more deeply about why these rules exist in the first place. in other news president obama delivering what he says is a strong message to iran about aiding the houthis. let's bring in michelle kaczynski. what are they saying? >> reporter: it has been hard to get to the bottom of exactly what they are saying. the white house made it clear, but the white house is extremely reluctant to spell it out in certain terms, saying they don't want to speculate.

15 times in yesterday's briefing the mission of u.s. ships in that region is to protect the free throw of navigation and commerce and they said the international community is rez hraout, as they put it in enforcing the resolution and that the u.s. stands shoulder to shoulder. here is president obama in that situation. >> what we have said to them is is that if there are weapons delivered to factions within yemen that could threaten navigation that's a problem. we're not sending them obscure messages but we sent them very direct messages about it. >> the white house won't say how the messages are transmitted to the iranians only they are making it clear that iran needs to be part of the solution. >> thanks so much for that.

saudi arabia said no more air strikes in yemen because operation storm succeeded, until it did not. and air strikes resumed, and the situation at sea becoming equally precarious as they watch for arm shipments from iran. and how do we make sense of all the latest fred? >> reporter: well it is very difficult. it certainly shows how iran is trying to compartmentalize its relations with the u.s. you have the nuclear relations, and there are many iranians who have hope, and there's fiery rhetoric and some believe

issues like this is still a problem, and i was able to speak to the commander of iran's ground forces who is somebody who almost never speaks to western media and he told me there is still very little trust between the united states and iran. and i have the statement right here. he said, at the moment we consider the united states to be a threat to us because the policies and actions are threatening to us. we would like the u.s. to change its rhetoric and tone of voice so that our nation could have more trust in the u.s. and military leadership and we trust the american people but the tone of the u.s. government and military officials is such that we still consider the u.s. a threat. this is something that you can see a duel way of operating, and on the one hand trying to foster relations on the nuclear agreement and yet very tough on the yemen issue.

>> let's turn to breaking news from france. they foiled an imminent attack on a church. police found a blood trail leading to a man's vehicle where they discovered loaded guns and found more later in his home. that suspect had already been flagged as a security risk last year. 4,000 passengers and crew are relieved to be back on land after their carnival cruise ship was forced to weather a massive storm off the coast of australia. the conditions are being described as once in a decade kind of storm. ivan has more on what they lived through. >> the passengers on the cruise ship they thought they would come into the port of sidney in australia for the last stop to get off after their vacation

and instead that was delayed and they had to ride out the storm aboard the cruise ship out at sea in a situation that one passenger described as a nightmare. horror off the coast of australia. this is the view of over 2,000 passengers stranded on a carnival cruise ship near sidney. the east coast of the country slammed by a once in a decade deadly storm. the waves up to 30 feet high with wind surpassing 60 miles per hour forcing the ship packed with 800 children to stay outside the harbor overnight on tuesday. sidney officials say it was too risky. >> this is the first time i closed the port and ever refused entry to a cruise ship. >> passengers back on land wednesday morning describe a nightmare. >> i have been on a cruise

before and i never had this experience in my whole entire life. i was petrified. >> the carnival company, no stranger to stranded cruise liner. in 2010, splendor was left off the coast of san diego for three days due to an engine fire and in 2013 the triumph held passengers for nearly a week. and this time, the coastline sweeping entire homes off their foundation. is the reason carnival cruise line's advisory president says this delay was unavoidable. the passengers are back safe on tkroeu land but this part of

southeastern australia are reeling from the storm, and four people were killed in the last two days and divers in the last few hours recovering the body of an 86-year-old woman whose car was swept away by one of the floods and the top official in new south whales said this storm was much more severe than anticipated. >> that video is scary. thank you for that. protesters taking to the streets in baltimore demanding answers in the death of freddy gray while in police custody. we have mr. murphy the attorney representing the gray family. we understand more than 1,000 protesters took to the streets last night and his mom and family came out to be part of this but that his mother became overwhelmed. can you tell us what the family's experience was? >> the family just couldn't take it. the demonstration was welcomed

but the emotion overcame them and the mother collapsed. she is okay i am happy to say and it was just overwhelming to her. >> we can certainly understand that. when we last spoke to you, mr. murphy on monday you said the family had not been given any explanation from the police department of what happened. has that changed? >> no that has not changed. we are still in the dark about it, and in a way it's understandable because the police sometimes don't want to reveal critical parts of the investigation because it might affect what people say who are also targets or witnesses. i understand that. on the other hand this family has a right to know what happened and at the right time i am sure that the city will provide that information and in the meantime we will conduct our own -- the federal government will conduct its own,

and the state's attorney will conduct her own and we will be watchful as to all of those drove developments and keep the family informed. >> there are four separate investigations but last night the spokesperson for the baltimore police department came on cnn and what he said about the level of force used has gotten a lot of attention. so let me play that for you. >> we're going to follow the facts where they go. the deputy commission said no force was used and everything we have now indicates there was no force used however that investigation is still on going. >> he says all of the evidence they have shows no force was used. >> you see, that's why we don't have any confidence in the police investigation. first of all, they have no

business saying anything like that until the investigation is completed. one critical fact or witness can change the entire picture. they admittedly have not interviewed the six police involved and so this is really an outrageous position for them to be taking at this point. it's utterly premature to make that statement, and we ask them to make no more misleading statements in the investigation, and that destroys public confidence. we know something happened to this young man and the six police officers who have yet to cooperate with the investigation will help us get to the bottom of the investigation, and we are asking one or more to come forward and tell us what happened. go to the state's attorney and make sure your conscience is clear, and make sure that you do what you have asked citizens to do as congress cummings said.

when you ask citizens to come forward and solve a crime, you are in not in a different position now. >> and last night, there was an explanation of why she can't get answers. >> because of the law enforcement's bill of rights we have yet to fully engage those officers and we have a lot of progress to do and it significantly hampers our ability to bridge the or to repair the relationship with the community and the police when something this tragic happens. >> basically, she is blaming the law enforcement officers' bill of rights for why her office has not been able to get answers and why they are not able to move forward in repairing the relationship with citizens. is that plausible to you? >> yes.

unlike all other states in the union except perhaps a handful, these officers have more rights than ordinary citizens have not to cooperate with the police investigation. there's a 10-day period where they don't have to say anything and they have exercised that right as it were. and that's -- this case illustrates why that is a bad policy that goes too far. of course police should be treated fairly. of course police should have the rights of ordinary citizens but they should not have more rights and that's what the police bill of rights essentially gives them. this is obstructive to any reasonable investigation. >> so now that those ten days have elapsed, now will we get answers? >> well let's wait and see. my crystal ball says no not yet. and that's unfortunate. i wish i had a different

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an alabama town is in shock this morning after learning a 20-year-old woman from their community fled to syria in november to join isis. the student posted this picture to twitter from inside syria. what could have motivated this young woman to abandon her family and join isis? jordan who went to high school with her joins us now this morning. how are you? >> i am doing well michaela. how are you? >> i am well. we are mystified the story of your classmate. you went to high school with her and are friends with her on facebook and you graduated two years ago and each have gone your separate ways going to kwraoupb universities. >> it was surprising to me to hear about this story, because when i thought about my

graduating class, she was not somebody that i would have thought that would have gone on to do such a thing. she was a very quiet girl, a bright girl and somebody that kept to herself in a small group of friends. she was very shy and much more reserved and not something that i would expect to be in something so extreme like this. >> was she particularly devout? do you remember her talking openly about her religious beliefs at the time? >> i know that she did wear a haeupblg jaw, and we were one of the most diverse schools so we had a decent amount of islamic students there, so i kind of assumed that there was some

degree of religious commitment. >> i can imagine all of you are struggling to parallel what you have known about the young woman and the images and stories we are hearing now, we were surprised to hear of the secret twitter feed she had, and apparently she had a different handle she used and she was posting a very violent and aggressive message, and i think we might have some of those. americans, wake up go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood. >> were you surprised about the sentiment here? >> i was absolutely surprised. when the buzzfeed article broke, i texted some of the people in my graduating class that was much more close to her than i

was, and everybody was surprised, and i don't know that anybody that was going on. >> the buzzfeed article had an extensive interview with her parents or father and they were able to speak with her from inside syria. i imagine some of the conversation also circles around your concern for your friend and acquaintance. obviously you are concerned about what can happen to her over there. >> yeah it's very concerning and that's why a lot of people especially individuals much closer to her than i are afraid to come out and say things not just for their own safety but a lot of people are very much concerned about the safety of her family and understandably so and we live in a world where dangerous things happen all the time and, yeah it's a tragedy. everything that is being said is being said with a great deal of concern. >> which i understand. her father expressed concern

about backlash the family may or may not experience, and we hope that does not happen. her father also mentioned the buzz article, and he believes she had been brainwashed and radicalized from what she wa seeing on the internet. you know this young woman and know what she was associating with. she had a great life and big family but what would she be enticed by with this message from isis? >> the way i think about it and as being a millennial somebody who is only a college sophomore, whether we like to admit it or not, people -- sometimes we are

isolated and we keep to ourselves, and we don't necessarily have an identity or maybe we are socially outcast by certain people we will run to anything even extreme groups that will make us feel comfortable at home and have a sense of community, and i think that's really how groups like isis and some of the other terrorists organization overseas are recruiting people from my generation is they are preying on the vulnerable people that will do anything to have people to go to. >> really interesting perspective to get from you, and you are well spoken, and please pass along our hopes and sentiments and prayers to her family. our thanks to you. >> absolutely michaela and i appreciate the opportunity. the situation in yemen also in the news this morning. as confusing as it is horrible.

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we have two big breaking situations in the news right now. one abroad and one at home. we have what is going on with iran and a lot of different places and then we have what is happening in baltimore as a

reflection in the conflict in the callulture of policeings. senator, it's good to have you. let's start first abroad. the situation of iran seems very confusing now and about a lot more than just nukes. do you believe the u.s. has been suckered into the negotiating table giving iran to mess around in syria and yemen and anywhere it wants? >> good morning. our relationship with iran and concerns with iran are in nuclear facets. it's critically important not just to the region but the u.s. security and so we are focused in the negotiations with the negotiating partners to prevent iran from becoming a nuclear weapon state. that's not the end of our concern. we do have concern about iran

sponsoring terrorism, and we have concern about iran's human rights concerns and them meddling in other countries, and we don't want to be distracted from letting iran becoming a nuclear weapon power. >> you are getting resistance from your brothers and sisters in congress. they want the acts of iran to be taken into consideration, and the second problem is there's dissatisfaction built into the negotiations because you are not going to stop them from getting a weapon it's not if they get one, it's just when isn't it? >> no we are going to prevent them from becoming a nuclear weapon power. >> how? >> we are going to do that hopefully through negotiations with our negotiating partners and as the president said all options are on the table. let me just clarify that.

we are not at all losing focus on what iran is doing and sponsoring terrorism. we imposed sanctions in regards to iran and terrorism. we don't want to lose the international coalition we have forcing iran to negotiate with us -- >> it seems like they are getting what they want at the table and threatening to walk away if they don't, and they have impunity in the rest of the world because they are threatening to walk away from the talks. >> we will judge that an affective agreement, must prevent iran from having a breakout capacity of having a

nuclear weapon state. that's clearly our objectives. we will judge that. as you know there's legislation moving through congress that provides the appropriate role for congressional review. only we can permanently remove those sanctions. we are focussed to make sure we have an affective agreement that prevents iran from becoming a nuclear weapon state. we don't have to go alone in trying to get that done. we have negotiating partners and we are working with them. >> now, let's come back home senator. what is going on in baltimore, obviously within your state, and you called for a investigation through the attorney general, and dealing with the immediate circumstances, we know that a federal investigation is not going to give quick judgment a quick transparency in the situation. why aren't you pushing the governor to have an independent review body installed

immediately to take care of this situation, because you are seeing the same delays that create outrage among your citizens? >> i want an independent review and want to make sure that not only we have the review by the federal department of justice and that's what we called for, our congressional colleagues from baltimore called for that investigation. that will be an independent investigation. we also want the internal investigations being done in our state of maryland to be independent as well. >> but they are not. >> so i agree with that. -- well i think our states attorney in baltimore is not connected with the police. >> we don't know what is going on and we know the police are doing it and the reason i say that is the bill of rights passed through the legislature there and its prevision for ten days to get counsel, and it's the ten-day buffer for cops is

driving this outrage. and not to say that cops are bad or there is any malice involved in the investigation, but to remove that speculation. that's the lesson of ferguson remove the speculation through transparency. it's not happening here at least not in a way that is being publicly exposed. >> i agree there needs to be a totally independent investigation. let's get to some of the core problems. that's why i have introduced the end of racial profiling. we have to get a better confidence between the community and law enforcement, and law enforcement only works if the community has confidence they are working on their behalf and that has been put to test in baltimore and other cities around the country and one of the ways to make that happen is to make it clear we are not tolerating racial profiling.

we have reintroduced the legislation that will call for the end of profiling by police. there's too many things happening like what happened in baltimore, and we need to wubgork together. >> good to have you on "new day." >> thank you. what happens to frozen embryos after a couple splits? who has a right to use them or destroy them? that's the question of a legal battle between sophia and her ex.

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actress sofia vergara and her ex-fiance are locked in a heated battle over frozen embryos. they are not alone. the issue on what to do with the frozen embreeyos after a couple

breaks up is under fire. and we have our guests. it's great to have both of you here. i want to start with you. this must seem painfully familiar to you as you watch what is going on with sofia vergara. can you tell us your battle over your frozen embryos. >> we had four frozen embryos, and he came home in the middle of the cycle and said he did not want to proceed with the cycle because he was having trouble at work and the company was possibly going to do layoffs and he didn't want to go through with it right now but he promised we would go through it and then weeks later he wanted a

divorce. he didn't want to expose himself to child support in the future, and in new york you can't wave child support, it's against public policy. the right of child support belongs to the child. >> even though you were willing to absolve him of the responsibility? >> yeah i was willing to do whatever he took he would not have to see the child or have any financial responsibilities nothing. he said no. legally you can't wave child support on behalf of a child. >> this is complicated ethical territory. who does own the frozen embryos? >> the courts in the u.s. said again and again that both parties have to control the disposition of embryos, like you are going to freeze them but -- >> you can't force the parent. >> you can't force a parent. there is an exception, if it's the last chance for somebody to reproduce, and if it's their only possibility, then a few courts have said all right if one party is willing we will

allow that to happen. it has to be these are the last embryos i can make because of biology, there is no more possibility for me. >> basically what sofia vergara's ex is saying is he doesn't want to destroy the embryos because of a religious objection he has. he says i have always strongly believed that life begins at fertilization, and every embryo is a life on the journey towards birth. how can somebody force him to do something against his religion if he believes life has begun? >> the courts don't agree quite with that outlook. ethically i think it's right, they are not equivalent to us in terms of their legal and moral standings. embryos are destroyed.

if you don't pay your fees to freeze them they are tossed out. we have done surveys on this and we know it happens. a potential person doesn't have more legal standing. >> we have the fact specific basis, because vergara says she didn't say she wanted to destroy them -- >> she wants to keep them frozen. >> you can argue what is the practical affect of that and that's their specific case. what is motivating in that case is what you just talked about. what is your take on the idea of an embryo not being a person? >> i feel the same way. we were discussing it beforehand. i believe an embreeyo is a subject to life. it's the process to create them, and it's generally speaking because you are infer actual. >> you will not go as far saz

say are they are people? >> i was attached to what they represented and what my future would be. >> that could change in the courts alisyn. >> yeah it could. >> we happened with your embryos. >> the judge said to the lawyers get a deal because the judge did not want to be responsible for forcing anybody to do anything for forcing parentirhood parenthood on anybody. and at the time i was so beaten up and emotionally gone from being adult-capable decisions and my own lawyer was trying to tell me i didn't want to be a parent with other person, and why would i want to have a life where i would be tied to him, and i ultimately agreed to allow them to be donated to research, but i think in retrospect the judge was a coward an absolute coward. >> you are an attorney.

what advice would you give to couples who are entering into a situation like this? there are thousands of them. >> well it's really very interesting. i am an attorney and one would think i would know better to sign documents that were not negotiated but when you go through infertility, it's incredibly like i said debilitating, you changed your diet and you are very vulnerable and they put a consent form in front of you and you assume it has been vetted and it covers death and you are not thinking about divorce. >> yeah you are on the same page then. >> you want to say let's cover other concontinueteupb contingencies. dementia. >> you just pay $20,000 to a clinic and -- >> yeah and you hope you are never in a situation that you

were in but the point is the directive has to be much more clearly spelled out than it has been so far. thank you so much for helping us. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> you can tweet us. we would love to hear what you have to say about this. when we come back one bad makeup one monster rock and 2,100 reasons to sell it. oh what a tease. that's the good stuff!

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