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deal. >> smikal smerconish gloria bornlger jeff zelleny. you can always follow me on twitter. tweet the show @cnnsitroom. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett out front starts right now. frmths out front tonight, breaking news anger on the streets of baltimore. protesters demanding justice, the police union firing back saying the protesters resemble quote, a lynch mob. this as police double down saying they had every right to arrest freddie gray. iranian warships tonight on the move heading straight for u.s. destroyers in the arabian sea. let's go out front. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com out front to tight we begin with breaking news in baltimore. outrage for a second night. protesters taking to the streets
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as an attorney for the police union doubles down. today saying his officers had every right to arrest freddie gray. you're right now looking at live pictures of the streets of baltimore. protesters are angry, they're demanding justice for the 25-year-old baltimore man who died a week after being taken into police custody. this comes as we have new video surfacing tonight. this was shot after gray had been driven from the site of his arrest in a police van. so what happened was, the van stopped en route. officers say gray had become unruly. they took him out of the van, shackle his legs. all along, though police are insisting gray was arrested without force or incident. a few moments earlier right before this picture, gray entered the van, still able to speak, partly mobile. but when he arrived at a hospital he was unresponsive. at a late afternoon press conference an attorney for the bamt more police union confirmed the central question in this
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case. >> something happened in that van, we just don't know what. >> meanwhile, ten days after freddie gray's death his body still not released to his family. the autopsy police keep citing the police saying the autopsy shows no force. the only document to support that claim at this point. that too, has still not been released to the media or the family. brian todd begins our coverage out on the streets of baltimore. brian, protesters blocking streets already early this evening. what are you seeing now? >> reporter: we are indeed seeing that erin. protesters have blocked several major intersections here in baltimore. they're getting louder and growing in number as we proceed toward the baltimore inner harbor one of the most popular tourist destinations in the city of baltimore and of course in teaching as people are getting off work there are probably going to be a lot of people where the protesters are headed. they've blocked several
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intersections, playing a cat-and-mouse game with local police. they wanted to get away from the police barricades at the police precinct so they started marching. the police would sometimes catch up with them and lead them. then the protesters would take another turn to get away from the police. they then set up a major barricade, a human barricade at a major intersection and blocked traffic for several blocks for several minutes. i asked one of the protest leaders why they were doing it. they said basically to show them we're going to be in their face over this whole story, over the death of freddie gray. if they can put up barricades here and really disrupt the rush hour traffic. they've succeeded in doing that erin. >> brian, we hear them chanting there was very loud chanting as you started talking. what are some of the things they're saying? >> reporter: it's the very popular refrain after ferguson and the staten island case "no
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justice, no peace." also saying they're going to fight for freddie gray. all night, all day, we will fight for freddie gray, things like that. freddie gray has become a very very passionate cause and it's been palpable on the streets of baltimore for the fourth night runninging. >> all right, thank you very much brian todd. we'll go back to brian as he gets more. as you can hear more and more people are gathering as rush hour finishes up there, blocking streets on the streets of baltimore again. now, what's interesting is that today the baltimore police officer union is strongly defending all six officers. they've been suspended from the force. the union said today that officers had the right to arrest freddie gray. they say that they were doing exactly the right thing when gray took off running with a knife on april 12th. joe johns is out front in baltimore. >> something happened in that van, we just don't know what. >> reporter: what exactly
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happened to 25-year-old freddie gray remains a mystery tonight, even after an attorney for the baltimore city police union tried to answer questions. despite hundreds of protesters demanding the arrest of the six officers involved the fraternal order of police is defending their actions. >> in this type of an incident you do not need probable cause to arrest. you just need reasonable suspicion to make the stop. that's what they had in this case. >> reporter: six officers now suspended with pay pending the investigation have been identified. little is known about them but according to reports one has at least two domestic violence complaints. we know now that five of the six have been interviewed about the case even though the deputy chief said on monday all six had spoken to investigators. an attorney for the gray family calls this concerning. >> they may make us more skeptical of the honest reporting of the police department. but i'm reserving judgment on
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that, and my skepticism is intense. >> in a news conference a fraternal order of police suggesting a lynch mob mentality by baltimore residents. the mayor suggested whatever happened to gray happened in the van. the union attorney said giving unruly prisoners a rough ride in the back of the transport is an issue that has come up in the past. >> it's something that people on the street tell us a lot that that happens. >> reporter: more than three days after gray died from a nearly severed spine, his body is still in state custody and expected to be released to the family in the next day or two. before gray's funeral, cnn has been told the family wants a second opinion on the cause of death. >> what would be the timetable if it were to happen? >> immediately. >> reporter: live now at the intersection of westmount and rigs in baltimore city. to my left are the protesters
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behind a barricade. to my right, police officers are behind a metal barricade. we've seen some pushing and shoving here at this point, but it's been largely peaceful. a few things have been lobbed at the police officers including, i saw, a hot cup of coffee. otherwise, though i would tell you so far tonight, here in this balt of the city of baltimore, it is tense, but peaceful. erin? >> thank you very much joe johns. tense but peaceful. tense the key word we've seen the past two nights. you just saw that with brian todd who is walking down the streets with some of the protesters approaching the location where joe johns is outside police headquarters. joining me now, andrew o'connell, an attorney for the gray family. you just heard joe john's report. the attorney for the police union defending the officers' actions. they had suspicion, they were in the right by arresting freddie
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gray. your response? >> that question has to be answered in the context of what mr. gray was doing at the time of the arrest. what we know now is that he had no weapon in his hand. he was not hurting anybody and he was committing no crime. >> you're saying there was no weapon. when they say he had a knife, you're saying he didn't have a knife. or is the key word in his hand? >> in his hand. the knife wasn't discovered until after they affected an arrest. mr. gray -- the only thing they did was make eye contact with the police officer and run, which he's perfectly in his rights to do. he unfortunately didn't run fast enough. >> we also just got this andrew this sa letter from the baltimore fraternal union of police. they just handed this out this afternoon. in it they talk about the protests thus far. they acknowledge they have been peaceful. they then continue to say, and i want to read this because i don't want people to think we're throwing these two words around lightly orr paraphrasing. here is what they say. we are very concerned about the
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rhett rirk of the protests. in fact the images scene on television look and sound much like a lynch mob in that they're calling for the immediate imprisonment of these officers. lynch mob? >> the choice of words is not only ironic. it's sat. police officers are never the subject of a lynch mob. it's actually usually the other way around. in the context of the powder keg that baltimore city is right now, referring to the citizens of baltimore city who are peacefully protesting as a lynch mob doesn't serve to keep the peace. it only heightens the flames orphans the flames of people already on edge. i think the police commissioner and his subordinates should apologize to the community for these words. they're irresponsible and they only cause an increase in the tensions. it doesn't decrease. it doesn't lower the tensions of
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this community which are on edge at this moment. >> i spoke to the spokesman for the baltimore police department. he said there's no evidence force was used by police against freddie gray. let me play exactly how he put it. >> the deputy commissioner said no force was used. all of the evidence that we have at this time indicates that there was no force used there was no bruising no indication of any sort of broken bones. >> are you open to the possibility that this is true that force was not used against freddie gray? >> no. that we're having this conversation now is absurd. we've all seen the video. we've all seen officers piling on top of mr. gray who is screaming in pain. we've also seen mr. gray dragged to the police van while also in pain with his legs dangling beneath him. officers on top of somebody affecting a restraining hold on the man is not a peaceful arrest
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or an arrest without force. that's absurd. we know that by looking at the video. >> andrew thank you very much. appreciate your time. he says the claims from the police are absurd demanding an apology from the baltimore police union for saying protesters were acting like a quote, unquote lynch mob. up next a former police officer speaking out against police brutality. >> i had to deal with not getting back on the street, somebody placing a dead rat on my car. an iranian convoy of warships in the arabian sea. dzhokhar tsarnaev we'll show exactly what he does after this. there's nothing more romantic than a spontaneous moment. so why pause to take a pill?
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breaking news, protesters demanding justice in baltimore. right now some demonstrators are blocking traffic at multiple intersections. our reporters are saying that's what they're experiencing. the situation is tense. that's what our joe johns was using to describe it. he's outside police headquarters. we have new video of freddie gray the 25-year-old black man, his death causing all of these protests you are seeing. he died of a severe spinal cord
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injury in a coma after being in police custody. you can see gray in this new video shackle by police. police officer union lawyer just came out defending the officers involved saying something happened to gray in the van, it didn't happen during his arrest and they were completely justified in that arrest. gray of course screaming in pain as he is originally dragged into that van by police. that's when you hear him screaming and first see his legs look like they're clearly not working properly. this is far from the first time the baltimore police department has been unfear fire. jason carroll is also out there. you have protesters around you. what are you seeing? >> i think if you take a look behind me, you can see the crowd has started to gather here in increasing numbers. so far this protest has been peaceful. i've heard people describe it as tense. i think that's an accurate description, but i would also describe it in a way as people who are being out here who i have spoken to a angry.
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this is an anger that's been bubbling beneath the surface for a long period of time in terms of the way police here have been interacting with people in the community. they say it's time for a change in the way police police this community. >> we gonna fight for freddie gray all night, all day! >> reporter: before protesters to being to the streets of baltimore to demonstrate in the death of freddie gray they had already been voicing concerns over police use of force at city hall. >> ever since i was there, there was always a distrust between police and citizens. >> we caught up with former baltimore police officer joseph crystal, the son of two new york city police officers and grew up wanting to be a cop. he joined the baltimore pd in 2008. things took a turn for the worse three years later after he accused a fellow officer of beating a drug suspect.
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>> i had to deal with incidents when not working when they were getting backed up on the street someone placing a dead rat on my car. >> crystal filed a lawsuit claiming officers tried to cover up the assault of the suspect and top brass failed to protect him for breaking the so-called blue wall of silence. police would not comment on the case citing pending litigation. >> right now we live in a day and age where people don't trust the police. it's unfortunate and it's horrible. i think it's important that from top to bottom we instill integrity back into the police department. >> reporter: like many cities across the country, the relationship between baltimore and the community it serves has been severely strained. >> right now there's a lot of mistrust with some of the communities and the police department. they feel like it's us against them or them against us. >> reporter: according to "the baltimore sun," since 2011 the city of baltimore has paid more than $5.7 million for 102 cases
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involving allegations of police wrongdoing. police did not admit fault in the cases. a department spokesman also says within the past two years the department has been working to mepd the relationship with the community, partly by instituting new police training guidelines and policies pointing to what it says is a 50% reduction in excessive force complaints since 2012. >> none of that though helps if people don't feel it. with this investigation we've made a commitment to be as open and transparent as we can be. >> but is it enough? the city's mayor says more needs to be done. >> we have to make sure that this investigation goes forward, that it's transparent and we actually have independent eyes to take a look at it. >> reporter: critics of the department says it's easy to change policy. what they say needs to happen is a change in police culture. they say that needs to happen not just here in the city of baltimore, but in other cities like new york. they also mentioned ferguson and
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places like north charleston south carolina. >> jason, thank you very much, live on the streets of baltimore. right now i want to bring in marc lamont hill and eugene o'donnell, professor at john j. kol college of criminal justice. we have this statement that was released late today. you have to read it and get to paragraph three to see the headline. after they acknowledge and i think it's important to say, the protests have been peaceful, the police officer's union continues to say that the i'm manuals seen on television look and sound like a lynch mob. >> it was stunning. it was offensive, obviously inaccurate and it's dangerous. first of all, lynch mocks don't call for the immediate arrest of people they murder people. the whole point of a lynch mob is extrajudicial violence. it's what happened to this man,
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what happened in charleston south carolina. let's not use it for anybody right now. let's have an honest transparent process. people are angry this man is dead. there's no lynch mob out there. >> you heard our reporters using words like tense and angry. part of what he's referring to i think what happened live on this program last night. for people that didn't see it let me show you what happened to our reporter who was on the streets last night. >> reporter: very much with the protesters. these young men are angry. >> [ bleep ]. >> straight up. >> [ bleep ]. >> obviously the choice of the words lynch mob, i don't think it's possible for anyone to defend that unless you want to. please step up and do it. i think obviously what happened live on this program last night was not acceptable either. >> we're seeing political failure. i don't know what the mayor is
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doing down there, ten days 12 days, nobody has a clear accounting of what happened. it's predictable the conversation gets polarized in the absence of facts. what family member in america would not be horrified to get a call a family member was killed and there's no clear explanation as to how that happened. we're going on two weeks now and we still don't have this. people are taking sides and being on teams. there's no team here. >> what we have is what we don't have. what we don't have we have a body that the police have that they haven't released from the family. the family says they want it as soon as possible. we have a preliminary autopsy which police did that they say supports there was no violence but not releasing the autopsy to the media or the family. there's information out there. but no one in the family or anyone else is being shown this. >> it contradicts the notion of being transparent. you can't have a transparent process and tell me this man is
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dead and there are no facts that support the idea of force against him. the idea of force is that the man ran, and now he can't run anymore and now he's dead. we know something happened to him. to suggest something happened in the van when we see on tape that he's screaming in pain is problematic. i agree we need more facts. there are enough facts right now for people to be outraged. >> eugene i don't understand why -- they're saying it happened in the van. to me i'm a little confused here the van is still police territory, still their responsibility. if it happened in the van, it's still on there, still police brutality? am i wrong? >> it's going to be a medical examiner issue, an investigative issue trying to get the timeline. how many of these vance are operating there? that doesn't seem like a good place to be throwing people in the back of the vance.s. why are they using vans. i don't know if they can see what condition the people in the vans are in. if they can't, it's a serious
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issue. the mayor has been saying her own police department has been broken for four years. fix your own department. they're going to the justice department doing outside inquiries, fix the department. elected officials acting like bystanders in these events is troubling. the triv ality of this is worth noting staten island very minor infractions. >> i'm not following, what are the minor infractions? >> cigarette sales. >> he did have a wrap sheet. >> he was dangling from his neck they could see it when they were chasing him. >> they're saying he had a knife in his pocket. >> which they recovered after they arrested him and contained him. they didn't know that was the reason for changing them. first of all, the site of
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arrest we could run there in the time we've had this conversation. it's not like major violence happened there. if they did, it's at the hands of again, the police department. they want to leave open the possibility that something happened in that van without any police participation. he got banged around in the van when he hit a bump he somehow hurt himself in the van. they would leave that possibility open by saying it wasn't us it was in the van, as if the guy drove his own van there. >> which again, i don't understand. it's their van, their responsibility. if it happened in the van, it's on them. >> what they want to do is -- i understand legal distinction. certainly something what police view about brutality in this country. more of our breaking news coverage of the protests in baltimore. we'll be live back on the streets as protesters are gathering once again starting to build as darkness descends. iranian warships closing in on american destroyers in the
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what is happening in baltimore. protesters gathering right now, blocking several major intersections. as light fades in baltimore, rush hour ending darkness descending. our reporters describing what they're seeing and experiencing on the streets, in front of police headquarters and on the streets as protesters are gathering in that area as tense. some describing the situation, people are feeling angry, deeply angry. we're going to be going live to the streets of baltimore in just a moment. i do want to get one other crucial story in tonight. that is iranian warships heading toward american navy destroyers. we learned a convoy of nine iranian ships, including warships is moving closer to the coast of yemen. that's where nine american destroyers and aircraft carriers are waiting. the american ships are deployed to prevent iran from sending weapons to rebels in yemen. jim sciutto has the developing story tonight. jim, what do you know about
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these iranian warships? >> initially this iranian convoy had been described as cargo ships and there's concern of what's in the cargo. is it weapons for the houthi rebels. we know small warships are in that convoy which raises questions about what its actual function s. it's also moving closer to the yemeni coast. it's near the border of oman and yemen. right now it's just a few miles from u.s. warships. they're keeping a safe distance the pentagon tells us but also within visual range. they can see them through their binoculars a handful of miles. not moving closer right now. it's designed to send the message, we are watching. as the president said yesterday in his words, the u.s. is the dominant force here. that's what they're showing with that american presence along with allies as well. >> you're saying they can actually see them through binoculars. this isn't them steaming towards each other, they can physically see each other. that raises the specter of what happens, what could happen here
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as possibly very frightening. what will the american destroyers do anti it when that iranian convoy actually approaches? they said, oh no only cargo. now you have iranian warships that could have weapons on them. there are nine american aircraft carriers and destroyers deployed to stop those iranian ships. are they actually going to do it? >> it's a great question. you hear from defense officials there are no plans to board or blockade that might be seen as an act of war. they want this presence to be enough to send the message. what happens if those ships keep going to shore. there is the possibility that some of the u.s. allies here, you have egypt, saudi arabia ships from the uae, that they might make their own decision to board. part of the u.s. presence here is to show they would back them up help buttress them. no one is making that promise right now. the hope frankly is the presence is enough to drive them away. as you say, erin if they move
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closer what do you do? that's going to be a tough question for the president. >> what do you do when you deployed your destroyers saying they could on the come there and they come there. now former cia operative bob baird joins me the author of "the devil we know: dealing with the new iranian superpower." bob, it's a big question. president of the united states has sent destroyers to make sure iran doesn't send weapons to yemen. they can see each other through binoculars. all of a sudden they get close. what's the u.s. going to do? >> erin we've sent ships to that part of the world to prevent a war between saudi arabia and iran. those are really the two adversaries in yemen. the catastrophe, of course would be if the saudis for instance bomb those iranian ships. we're hoping our ships are a deterrent to separate those two forces. we in no way would intend to engage those ships, and i doubt
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we'd even try to board them. we're just very worried about this conflict in yemen spinning out of control and catching the whole region on fire and for good reason we're fired. >> you have the iranians we have a reporter in tehran saying we will respond to the united states being the implication with hot leg. they're saying they're going to be defiant, won't tolerate this from the united states. you're saying the bottom line is the u.s. won't engage militariry go to war if you want to use the strongest term out there, with iran. >> no we don't want to. the iranian navy we would be able to prevail in a conflict against the iranian navy or against iran itself. on the other hand it could do a lot of damage to our forces. they've got very sophisticated chinese weapons on their cruisers on land and the rest of it which could take out some american ships. they've got swarming tactics. the navy is very wary of
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fighting there, either in the persian gulf or off the coast of yemen. we're worried about the conflict between iran and saudi arabia the shia and sunni spreading farther. >> bob, baer thank you very much. next we're going live to the streets of baltimore. the protests over the death of freddie gray are heating up. at about 7:30 eastern this morning, plus this woman was filming on a public street perfectly legal, filming a takedown. why did a u.s. marshal take her phone, stomp on it and utter li destroy it? we have an exclusive report. financial noise financial noise financial noise
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we're following breaking news in baltimore tonight. you're looking at live pictures. protesting building for a second night running. protesters are on the streets. our reporter describing it as tense. many of them extremely angry, demanding justice for freddie gray the 25-year-old black man who died a week after being taken into police custody. cnn captured this moments ago.
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a protester being taken away after he jumped a police barricade. brian todd has been walking with the protesters getting closer i believe to police headquarters. tell me exactly where you are, brian, what you're seeing now. >> reporter: erin we're right in front of city hall in baltimore, got a little jostled over here with the crowd getting a lit al active. the protests here have been very peaceful but very passionate. the crowd getting very angry. they want more answers in the freddie gray case they feel they've gotten from the police and the mayor's office. they brought this protest several miles through baltimore over the last couple hours, right here to the foot of city hall in baltimore. along the way they have blocked several intersections, disrupted traffic, confronted police chanted in front of police played a cat-and-mouse game dodging police as they tried to make several turns to get away
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from them. now they have come here in front of city hall. i would describe the crowd as angry, passionate but peaceful so far. they've brought the protest to city hall. let's move this way -- here is another common theme. a lot of young kids have joined this protest, coming with parents, coming with older siblings and things like that. they picked up a lot of them along the way. this has become a common theme all night long erin. very passionate protests angry we would describe it as but peaceful so far. >> what is their intent at this hour in terms of what they're planning to stay out. >> reporter: they have said they're going to stay out a little while longer. we'll see what happens when nightfall defended -- >> [ bleep ] police. >> sorry about that. let's move over here. >> when nightfall came last
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night, the crowd started to thin out. they have not really said how long they're going to go. they haven't had a tangible plan -- >> [ bleep ] the police everywhere worldwide. >> we're going to obviously get off that shot. obviously you heard this happened last night on this program. there are some out there expressing their anger in that way. you just heard that again, f the police you're out shooting our kids and someone else coming up yelling those expletives. out front, captain quol check. the protests are peaceful our reporters describing it as intense, but peaceful. we have seen this again expletive-laden anger at police. >> erin thank you for letting me have the opportunity to come on. when we talked yesterday and what we've been saying all week is we hear the frustration, the anger in the community.
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i think that is pretty clear that the protests have remained peaceful and we're appreciative of that. clearly there is that continued sense of outrage and concern. we understand that we're listening to the community, doing everything we can to support these peaceful protests we'll continue to allow people to march so they can express their frustration to their voices can be heard. there are times where you'll see us shut down certain roads just to maintain access for emergency vehicles like ambulances. again, this is about allowing the people to come out and express their frustration and we're listening. >> let me ask you two important things on that. when you say you're listening t baltimore fraternal order of police today, as you know were talking to reporters, to the public and put out this letter which they handed out afterwards. they noted the protests have been largely peaceful. the sentence continues to say, and i want to read it straight from the letter eric we have
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very concern about the rhetoric of the e protests. in fact the images seen on television look and sound like a lynch mob. i just spoke to one of the attorneys for freddie gray's family. they're demanding an apology from you all from referring to it as a lynch mob. obviously that intent is to lynch and kill somebody. >> do you apologize for the use of that term? >> i want to be clear that that's not from the police department. that came from the union. they speak for themselves. our focus in the organization continues to not only be building strong bridges. >> let me just interrupt you there. i understand there's the union and there's the police and you're the police. but do you find that acceptable that the union used those words, lynch mob? >> erin it's not appropriate for me to comment on the opinions of the fraternal order of police. they have an elected president who does that and speaking for them. what we are here to talk about and for us our concern is making sure we're listening to the community, that we have people
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on the ground able to make contact, listen to the concerns, interact. the police commissioner has been out. we had seen your command out engaging with the crowd. we'll continue to listen to hear that frustration to make sure people have the opportunity to voice their concern and provide them safe ability to do that. >> you're not going to condemn it. let me ask you one final question. the preliminary autopsy you keep citing that shows no bruising shows there was not force used against freddie gray. the family tells us they haven't yet seen that. when are you going to share that with them? >> that's a state issue. it's not in our purview to do that right now. i want to clarify here. it's not our position to speak for other organizations. we speak for ourselves and our commitment it has been for the last 2 1/2 years, to have a reverence for life to make sure people in our city have the opportunity to work with us and again to let people know that we're listening and trying to do
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everything we can to address their concerns. >> i understand. i just am a little surprised. i thought you'd say, look we wouldn't use those words, we don't think they're appropriate. i understand you're not able to say that. cell phone video of a u.s. marshal smashing a woman's cell phone. was he hoping no one else actually saw it? that's next.
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so tonight a deputy u.s. marshal was caught on video smashing the cell phone of a woman on a public sidewalk who saw an incident going down between the mar shaul and suspects and started to film. the woman whose phone was destroyed tells us she was worried for her safety. >> i was holding the phone like this and recording. >> capturing police activity in her neighborhood she was on the cell phone video and walking on her neighborhood when a few houses away she saw heavily armed suspects being arrest and the marshals turned to her. >> what did you think when the
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marshals turned toward you. >> i was horrified. >> you can hear her say that to the officer carrying the rifle. >> i kind of moved this way because i wanted to protect the phone -- the footage and that is when you see me struggling to keep this. he yanked it from me. he dropped it on the ground. he stomped on it many times. kicked it. [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. he said there is your phone and they call walked away from me. >> were you doing anything wrong? >> i don't think so. this is my right. it is my right. it is my constitutional right to film. and i was on a public sidewalk. >> the officer may have smashed paez's phone but he didn't see another cell phone across the street belonging to this woman. she fears showing her face after she saw how officers treated paez. >> you can hear your voice on
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the phone. [ bleep ]. >> what are you thinking at this phone? >> complete shock. it was unexpected. i didn't expect that. it is making people more accountable. >> and they are reviewing the incident and in this case like others the video made the dense and like cell phones it is now everywhere. in south carolina a citizen caught walter scott as he is shot in the back by an officer. in baltimore, freddie gray limp and carried to a police transport van, law enforcement actions captured by not one but often multiple cameras. >> he smashes her camera and someone across the street is videoing that. and if they had gone across the street and smashed that guy's camera probably somebody else further down the street would have been recording that. and the idea you can escape this kind of scrutiny and video coverage any more in a public police action those days are
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long gone. >> now paez did go to the local police agency the southgate police and filed a complaint. she wants a criminal inquest into this but the southgate police are in a pickle here. they say this is a gray zone because they don't have authority over the u.s. marshals. paez does intend on filing a civil lawsuit. >> young -- kwung law, thank you. >> and congresswoman who handles where this happens. this is a constituent of yours. when you see this with the marshal, what do you think? >> when i saw that video, i was horrified. there was so many things about it disturbing. beatriz is a constituent of mine and to see the u.s. marshal come and almost attack her, grabbing her phone, kicking her phone, not to mention his weapon was sort of -- you know flying around a little bit on his back
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it was a very dangerous situation. so i am going to do two things -- one, i have written a letter to eric holder attorney general, asking him to launch an investigation into the actions of this u.s. marshal. and the other thing i'm doing is i'm introducing a resolution on the house floor called the sense of congress and hopefully the members of congress will join me in reminding the citizens of this great country that it is their right to video law enforcement activities as long as they are not impeding an arrest or an investigation. it is their right and it is illegal for law enforcement to take their cell phones take their iphones or destroy the evidence. that is completely illegal. >> it would seem that way and it would seem if we didn't have the
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footage of recent incidents we wouldn't know what happened. look at the north carolina case. cell phone footage bringing something very important to light. and u.s. marshal, this could be a drug bust or where identities needed to be concealed. is it possible how he handled it was wrong but this urge everybody has of now i'm going to film something and catch this on tape is actually also causing a problem and preventing police from doing their job? >> i don't think so. and let's just say, most of the men and women in law enforcement in this country do an exemplary job to protect and serve us but if it wasn't of the video tape by average citizens i don't think we would have the light shed on some of the police abuses. remember some of the very first was in my home town of los angeles in 1991 when the rod any king -- rodney king beating happened and a citizen filmed it and whether it is eric harris or
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walter skod or tem eric rice or someone who was punched by a law enforcement officer in los angeles. imurging citizens to continue to do this. and more breaking news of the protests in baltimore continues. we'll take a brief break. we'll be right back, next. introducing the citi ® double cash card. it earns you cash back now and cash back later. with 1% when you buy and 1% as you pay with two ways to earn on puchases, it makes a lot of other cards seem one-sided.
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these are live pictures outside of the baltimore police precinct. you can see police officers on one side and barricade and protesters on another. we have heard some swearing and pushing and aggressive expletives but people feeling safe and bringing children out to protest. our breaking news news coverage continues now with anderson. >> good evening. thank you for joining us. new demonstrations on the streets of baltimore including a sunset confrontation between protesters and police. [ yelling ] >> it happened just a short time ago outside of the police station where ten days ago freddie gray was taken to a hospital where he later died. and with demonstrators out on the street we have last known video of images on the way to the police station and being loaded for a second time into a police van and we'll show you
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