that's something to drink to no matter where you are. thank you for letting me play around with the forge and thank you for doing what you do. >> thank you for coming out. two american icons making news tonight and we have got the stories. dr. oz and bruce jenner. first, dr. oz finally speaking out. >> i've longed believed that doctors should never fight their battles or each other in public but now i believe i must. >> but will that be enough to silence his critics and what's really behind the controversy? tonight, two of his tv colleagues are here. plus, from olympic champion to a tv star and now maybe a

new kind of champion. >> i want to know how this story ends. you know how does my story end? >> changing your life with the whole world watching but where is the line between pop culture and privacy? we have a lot to talk about, including uneasy protests after the death of gray. police say they were detained for disorderly conduct and destruction of property. now, to the controversy rocking one of the most popular shows on day time tv. and a man they call america's doctor used a big chunk of his

tv show to raise questions about the doctors and their motives. good to see you. we have been waiting. how did he do? >> i think he could do as well as could be. he took about 20 minutes of his show to address these critics. i think it's interesting he waited until the first day of sweeps but he went right back at him the way they came at him and the first thing he said was he has never ever used any of these what they call "quack" remedies for personal or financial gain. >> these doctors criticizing me for promoting treatments and cures in the interest of financial gain. something i tell you every day on this program i nerv do. and they say my baseless opposition to the genetic engineering of food crops.

again, not true. i have never judged gmo foods. but i do support gmo labelling soia can decide for your family. >> he thinks that they're in this for financial gain for those reasons and he's saying i simply want to protect the country from genetically modified foods. i think they need to know. he did this interview and he did an exclusive interview and i thought it was peculiar because he said it's not a medical show. he said he wants people to think it's about how to live your best life. >> and a cancer doctor from the university of south carolina said i signed my name to this letter because of my deeply

eheld medical convictions about medical science and the specific concerns regarding dr. oz mentioned in the letter. as an academic physician. contrary to other statements i do not have any personal or professional connection thuzs to the american counsel of physicians. >> and he said why didn't you look at these people's back grounds who came out blasting he me. so he took a five-minute portion to lay out who these people are who were his critics. >> acsh dr. gillbert ross also signed the letter.

take a closer look and you see he's a convicted felon. he cost the state of new york 8 million dollars in all and two more doctors who signed the letter are also affiliated with acsh. dr. scott atlas works with him that hoover institution. >> so talk about a war of words. here we go. it's really a he said he said in this situation. it basically comes down to as a viewer as a consumer, who do you believe. >> and as you mentioned, nbc, he spoke out again. very interesting. >> the show's purpose is not to talk about medicine it's to talk about how to thrivo live the good life. we have dr. up in the middle

bar. it's not a medical show. >> so we in the television industry know that he is a doctor but do you think people at home, the viewers realize that. >> what do we call him, don? dr. oz. he comes from the harpo tree was blessed by oprah, she introduced him as dr. oz went through all the remedies. we've seen dhiem a lot of medical type procedures and give medical type information so i thought that was interesting for him to say it's not a medical show and i thought interesting that he said i will no longer uses phrases like miracle. those are some of the phrases that got him in this predicament. >> and he had to testify before congress last year.

michelle turner thank you. >> i'm not going anywhere. i'm joined now by dr. drew host of "dr. drew on call." you have been on tv yourself many many years, doctor in some cases giving medical advice to someone you haven't seen. those are big challenges right? >> they are and in my profession -- whenever someone who's not specifically necessarily a general appears in a public setting, they get scrutinized carefully and when generals show up they sometimes need get taken down a notch and in dr. oz's case he's a

teacher. and this group from stanford in the west want him to lose his way as a teacher. no one has ever taken any issue with his abilities as a cardio thoracic surgeon. why they would want to knock him down is bazar. what he does on television and as you know, television is a -- has a specific skillset associated with it and it's very different from medicine. so these guys don't necessarily understand what he's doing. >> my position has been as a doctor or any position people can be multifaceted and multi multidimensional and he made a mistake that we'll talk about later that he admitted to. so why don't these 10 doctors get that? why do they insist hes to the

lose a job? >> why don't they advise him how he can do his job better? if that's their concern, why don't they help us do that. he's trying to get people to focus on their behavior their diet exercise, all things we all agree good things. i think he does kind of step over the line he himself in the statement he put out today, says he probably did step out of line with diet supression -- >> here's what he said in times magazine column todayommendations of weight loss pills. "i wish i could take back enthusiastic words i used to take back products years ago. i have not mentioned it in a year and do not plan to return to that neighborhood."

>> he was very self critical in this analysis. he's got a learning curve too. he was never a primary care physician, it's really hard to do that. so he got overly enthusiastic read some literature and maybe not as familiar with the body of literature because that's not his field but he trusted the people advising him and he's on television so he's held to a higher standard but he's ult ultimate ultimately doing television. >> they call him "america's doctor" and they're looking at him sort of as the voice of god. but if dr. drew put the every day doctor's show on television nobody would tune into him. so do you think there's a

learning curve in terms of how much he can use television and he should be more careful? >> yes. and this is noe way to criticize the work of producers. they know how to make television but i'm certain they're the ones pushing some of this material. oh just read the prompter. you can get his attention and he has. he has a lot of eyes and ears so he can give good information. to do this so we can shape the culture in a healthy place, that's his intent, so let's help him do that. >> i know you you have to deal with some of the same sorts of things. so thank you, dr. drew. when we come right back montell

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on his day time tv show today, dr. oz defends his integrity to his critics who accuse him of it promoting quack products. >> i think he's justifiably hurt by the fact that some of the reporters are doing nothing but

using this head line as a selashs way to get viewers on their show. and people who were a year or two years ago were trying to get on the show and now are turning on him. and the claims that he is promoting quackery is insanity because all he's doing is giving patients more information to take to their own doctors. >> he even said that he has to be held to a higher standard. >> he made one mutakeistakemistake. he has now said unequivocally, it is a mistake i made about saying miracle drug. >> and there's been a back lash to my approach in some parts of the medical community.

the ten doctors who attacked me got what they intended sensational head lines and sound bites. i've long believed that doctors should never fight their battles in public or against each other but i now feel i must. >> do you think he's right? >> yes. i think what they had to say and if you look into their personal stories, you understand -- >> what's the animosity. >> it's from that taylor swift song "haters will hate hate hate" he doesn't make any money off these products. let's talk about the fact the good he's done. my daughter had the battle of her life and saving her life and the lives of so many more. she was diagnosed with lymphoma one of the fastest growing

cancers and he helped her block this out. she had people following her and listening to the information, credible information and dr. oz promotes that along with all the other traditional medications. >> the doctors, the physicians say he has disdain for science and evidence based medicine. but as you know suffering from ms and your daughter dealing with hodgkins lymphoma, everything doesn't have a traditional treatment. >> but he does back traditional medication what he's talking about are complimentary things we can do. we had previously talked about medical marijuana on that show

and now -- >> they've all changed their tune. but you, quite honestly montell, you and oprah, you used to be dr. oz. there were no medical shows. did you have to deal with the same issues? >> i think we were held to really strict standards. i've tried to tape things on oz's show and he rakes yo you over the coals way more than i ever did. so, for them to say that he's a quack, is really quackery on their part and what's bothering him is the fact that these guys aren't providing the information to us as patients to be able to answer the right questions. that's what is ticking them off. >> when you gave advice or said try this or do this or just offer information, did they take your advice over their own

doctor's advice? >> in some ways they do. >> they do. >> dr. oz is responsible as a person providing information to give us all the information that we can make good decision based on pm and it's are up to us to go in and dig. some asked that don't yoi think because he's a doctor that people think it's right, no he also talks about underwear, and they understand he's a entertainment doctor who is there to help you ask the questions you should ask. >> and when people ask him about things that he says and he'll say, you want to lose weight, get off the couch and take a walk. >> we can all find reasons to dislike it but he's giving us

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. rumors speculation may finally be put to rest tomorrow when bruce jenner is expected to finally speak out on what's believed to be a gender transition the biggest milestone of four decades in the spotlight. >> reporter: strength speed, and stamina, powering bruce jenner in the olympics and as he told larry king ready for

stardm. >> wheaties is the breakfast of champions. >> a life as a pitch man from wheaties to orange juice. aerobics videos followed. then america's most famous athlete became the actor. not exactly shakespearean roles. except in the tragedy of his choices. the olympian who dazled on the field, bombed on the screen again and again. in his personal life jenner's multiple marriages led to -- and his marriage to kris jenner

sparked the reality show. "keep g up ""keeping up with the kardashians"was unabashed. launching the children to famous for being famous status. jenner's fame offen the accessory. he had an involvement in a fatal car wreck and the reason this is even news is not the accident itself but his rheumered transition which he will doctor's in what's expected to be a ratings block buster with dianne sawyer. jenner may be in the midst of a true met morphsis. bringing a real and serious issue into millions of people's

homes. he'll need the skill and stamina of a olympic champion. >> this is the guy on the wheaties box. you guys reported some exclusive information. what did you find out? >> on "entertainment tonight" we did report that he's been discussing transitioning since the early 1980s and also that he had begun getting hormone therapy, lec traulsis and surgery to make his features appear more feminine. he stopped all that when he met kris kardashian and he had a breast reduction surgery.

>> i've heard reports that kris jenner says she didn't really know about it that maybe he spoke to her once but she never - knew about this. >> i don't ghoeknow the answer to that don. >> so how is hollywood reacting to that? >> i think, not just hollywood, everyone is waiting to hear. and i had someone say, is it weird that i'm really fascinated by this? and no when you think in the lgbt community and in society as a whole this is a big deal. hearing from him and what he considders himself to be now and what he's leading to is a big deal and it will lead to a lot of important conversation. >> and hollywood has been taking on transissues lately.

we had letto. and my friend luvrn cox, orange is a new black. so what do you think this will do? do you think this has had? effect on hollywood or is bruce just feeling more comfortable now or is it the way of the world? >> i don't think it's the way of the world yet but i hope that members of the lgbt community that want this conversation to happen don't shame people who want answers, who need ask questions -- >> that happens a lot. because people of the transcommunity feel that there are things that should be known already but the honest truth is that people who don't live in new york and l.a. don't know a lot and they're curious. >> i consider myself progressive

and open minded and i have questions. >> me too. and my friends come to me with questions of why after all these kids, would he be gay? >> and the person in orange is the new black is still atracted to her wife. she's transgender but that doesn't mean she actually likes men. >> we have a co worker here who is still with the woman that she married. so, it's a convrsherseation that we really need discuss. >> i'm just waiting for bruce to tell us and i'll be watching along with millions of americans. >> coming up from that wheaties box to a different kind of champion what's next for bruce

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bruce jenner burst onto the american scene as an olympic

champion and never really left the spotlight but the sports icon may be on his way to a new kind of fame. and let's welcome a host of in focus and she's been named best network tv personality. and appreciate both of you joining us. i want to talk to you about this man on the wheaties box. not just anybody gets to be there. he won the decathlon. how does tomorrow's expected announcement jive with how you remember bruce jenner? >> he was a god. was a sports god. i mean you put this in this time and place, don, 1976 olympics there's really only four tv channels there's no espn cnn,

the nation watches, this is the decathlon, it's the world's greatest athlete is the olympic gold med lalist and it happens to be bruce jenner. i remember i just graduated from high school and i'm racing home to see bruce jenner win all these events. and he was the likes of a michael jordan it was that big of a deal. >> and he was a sex symbol. i remember my sister swooning over him and mark spits. and for many people it's they wonder what's he going to look like? what's the transition going to be like? so we're going to be watching tomorrow night and he's going to talk about transgender issue. how tough is an experience like this? going through this? >> well i can't imagine what it

would be like to do this in public the same way that the speculation indicates that jenner might be doing. it's difficult process for every person every transgender person that goes through this process. it has its own unique challenges and to do this with the world watching you, makes it all the more difficult and when people have such an investment in your history and legacy like you were just discussing. i remember laying on my floor watching the olympics the first olympics i remember and seeing that historic moment. so when you add all that together i can't even begin to fathom what the weight of that must be if in fact that is what is going on. it's significant because it can be inspiring and there can be missteps that would happen but the most important thing is that

it could provoke conversations in families that might not otherwise discuss these issues and they may not realize how many transpeople are actually in their lives. >> let's talk about the sports world because bruce jenner is a reality star quite frankly. what if he had still in the sports world been a coach, do ayou think that would have made a difference? >> i do. and i'm one of the people who actually doesn't know what channel the kardashian show is on. but i know him from sports. and let's say this were coming up in sports this is an issue that hasz come up in sportsz and it will be more of an issue. i think it would have been a fascinating one if it had stayed in the sports arena and not gone fl to the reality arena.

i think it would have opened a lot of mines. as the world of sports is becoming more more inclusive and understanding than the old way of thinking of sports is just a man's world. well my goodness there's so many issues that sports takes us to with these national conversations and this certainly would have been another one. i think the fact that he has gone into the reality tv side changes that dynamic a bit but at the core for many of us he's still that amazing athlete from another generation who really storms onto the scene that few athletes do. >> and bravo, or entertainment network, "e". i want to play this. this is dr. phil. >> if it's what you want to do

do it. what the hel does it matter what anybody else is doing. you're almost 80, what's the point? >> is he really almost 80? >> this is a theoretical exercise i don't know. but he's kind of past time for -- right? >> so eden it's interesting to me because he seems to be supported and i was like is he being an agest. and i saw criticism on talk show wendy williams saying he has bigger issues and rather than him transitioning, shouldn't he be worried about hid family and other issues. >> i wish dr. phil had stopped at his first point, that would have been enough. the second point seemed like an

attempt at humor and sometimes i think humor is best left for professional comedians. talking about his family anyone's family if there is a transition happening in your family especially if it's later in your life and you're already a parent that can be a difficult road to navigate for the entire family. what has struck me moist is as you listen to jenner's family talk about this upcoming media event, they never reveal anything. they only offer their love and support and just like dianne sawyer said -- >> i don't think everyone is on board. i think one of the younger daughters -- >> we don't know because they haven't discussed it. >> what do you think reaction -- finish your point. go ahead, eden. sorry. >> i was going to say the most

important thing is giving someone that love and support to the person transitioning and the person transitioning, giving space for their family to catch up. that can often be a key compone tonight ant to a successful road. >> what do you think america's reaction will be? >> i think it's fascinating and intriguing and people want to know. i think for those of us that remember jenner as an athlete and that was so long ago, there are a generation of people who have no idea when we're talking about this great decath lete. so we'll see how this goes. >> we will. i wonder though quickly, going little bit longer here. do you worry about it being a part of a spectacle? >> i do. i have faith in dianne sawyer as an excellent journalist. i've watched other journalists,

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>> what are we look at? >> korea, there was some hard drinking. they party hard there, the food is delicious, it's an interestingly, the south korean government has spent a lot of money on promoting their pop culture, which has done well there and it's a unique story. we've been looking for the opportunity to tell a story backwards. so i become increasingly more sober as the show progresses. >> let's watch. >> i'd like to recommend the soup of death but the main ingredient is silk wormworms. >> yeah. oh. >> nice huh? >> oh yeah. >> eating bugs that is so last

network. >> how do you like the soup? >> soup is awesome. >> so five seasons ago. soup of death. was it good? >> it wasn't bad. i've had worse bugs and better bowls of soup. i'm not going out for bugs after this. >> you said to tell the story backwards. in order for me to eat that soup i'd have to be hammered. >> well, curekorea, chances are, you probably are. they do everything you're not supposed to do. every evening appears with karaoke which v my deepest fear and then you go to the baths and get the seven layers of skin rubbed off you. >> are you going to do carekaraoke? >> fortunately, i don't think --

it's not in the show. >> "white wedding". >> no. >> is that yours too? >> yeah. >> and you don't really have to sing it? >> it's my deepest fear don. >> so snacking is a big part of korean meals. how so? >> along with the -- like if you go out for korean barbecue they have these wonderful little pickly wonderful, tasty colorful things that come with so really the extras are at least as exciting as the main event. it's really the driving engine of what will be the new american gast ronomy in a few years. >> why? >> i think they're helping to

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