hello, i'm wolf blitzer, 1:00 p.m. in washington and 1:00 in baltimore 6:00 p.m. london 8:00 p.m. jerusalem, wherever you're watching from around the world thanks very much for joining us. we begin with the breaking news the governor of maryland says the situation in baltimore has reached a turning point. his words. the city is under a curfew and a state of emergency but a tense calm has returned after the

looting and lawlessness on monday. 2,000 national guardsmen and more than 1,000 police are helping patrol the streets. only 10 people were taken into custody overnight, compared to the 235 arrested monday night. the 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. curfew will remain in place through next week. baltimore public schools reopened today classes had been canceled because of the violence that erupted monday. the head of the school district praised the students who did not take part in the rioting. and the baltimore orioles baseball team will take on the chicago white sox next hour but the teams will play before an empty stadiump. the game is closed to the the public. and these are the live pictures we're getting of a peaceful protest going on right now outside the states attorney's office in baltimore. no fires, no looting and fewer arrests in baltimore overnight. the latest on what's happening right now our national correspondent ryan young and correspondent athena jones, both joining us from the streets of baltimore.

athena you had a chance to speak just a little while ago with the governor of maryland larry hogan. tell us when he said? >> hi wolf. that's right. i spoke to him after he met with naacp volunteers here at the satellite office that they just opened in a neighborhood not far from the gilmore homes housing project where freddie gray was arrested back on april 12th. i asked him how he felt about how things went last night. here's what he had to say. >> things are way better than they were and we've turned a corner dramatically. it was a completely different story monday night. we had the national guard, state police, police officers from all around the state and country helping us working with community leaders. it was a great night. it's not over yet. still a lot of frustrations still a lot of hostility, still anger in the community, and there's still people out there that want to make trouble and still some, you know folks out there that want to get things out of control that don't want to go in a peaceful way like the majority of people do. we're going to stay until the city is safe and we feel it's

safe for us to leave. >> reporter: so they're going to stay as long as necessary with the increased law enforcement presence. one more thing i asked him about, wolf something that a lot of folks have been talking about, a larger issue of the need for criminal justice reform need for reforms to police departments like the one in baltimore. the governor is planning to sign several bills that will treat some of that. a few things one, they would study the use of body cameras and make recommendations, also require the police to report on dem graph ibs of traffic stops including race they would require the police department to report to the governor's office about deaths of civilians in police custody and that sort of thing. those are some of the reforms that the governor is planning to sign and they could go in some direction towards addressing some of the concerns that are brought up around this issue that freddie gray faced. >> athena stand by. i want to alert our viewers as well momentarily, fairly soon we're told the attorney general, the new one, of the united states loretta lynch, will be speaking out on the

situation in baltimore. we'll have live coverage of that, of course. let's go to ryan right now. ryan as you know some residents actually were praising baltimore police for their restraint in enforcing the curfew last night. what kind of reaction are you hearing from folks there on the streets of baltimore? >> well we've actually talked to several people who told us they were glad that it sort of disarmed itself. i want to show you something, wolf this used to be where the police line was. we'll take a walk up here. where the a armored vehicle was. the officers were standing blockings the street. now a few officers standing in front of this business that was looted recently. we've talked to the commander here and they've been telling us all day long having sidewalk conversations with the people the community, who have been coming out here all day to voice their opinions. the officers are standing here peaceful so far. a man preaching on the corner besides that now the sper section is open shields gone a lot of smiles back on the people's faces even though some are frustrated they feel like

they've been able to talk to the officers one on one for most of the afternoon. >> what about the effort to clean up in baltimore? what are you seeing? a lot of volunteers trying to do good things right? >> well after last night you thought there would be a lot of trash on the street and we've seen people showing up with brooms and trash bags walking around and actually picking up some of the trash on their own. that's been something very positive. people have not been throwing anything all day long. the street that was closed is back open and the conversations have completely changed. >> all right. >> ryan, one more thing -- we could hear somebody with a bull horn i think behind you or near you. what's going on? what's he saying? >> well, he is talking about the conditions of this community. he has been addressing the fact that he is tired of the community giving their life to the devil and wants them to give their life to god. that's been a theme we've been hearing. people want to give more to christ and not just relying on

men to take care of these issues. >> slowly but surely looks like life is getting back to normal in those blocks where there was so much serious trouble on monday and tuesday? >> that's something to stress they are trying to clean up parts of the neighborhood. this check cashing place right here this is one of the places we saw on tv that looters went into they're actually cleaning that up right now. you can see the officers protecting the front of the store. they are trying to clean this business up. we've talked to business owners who say look we employ 10 to 15 people in this community and we want to open back up so we can start servicing. the issues are not over here. they want their voices heard. a lot of people coming up to us saying don't leave until we get the information we need to figure out what's going on in the community. they want more education, jobs. we hear this over and over wolf. the commentary they don't want this to be a flash point and everybody go away in 20 days and then they don't hear any more about baltimore. >> the story you're in front of that check cashing store, we saw

live pictures when being looted monday do we know what happened inside? do we know if they stole cash stole checks stole debit cards or whatever? do you have any idea what actually went down inside that store? >> well we looked and honestly it was a complete mess still trash in there and they're starting to get the windows together. the officers have formed a line really to keep people out, but also they want to make sure these people can work and clean things up themselves so we haven't had a chance to talk to the workers on the inside. not sure if the owner is here. they've been handing out waters to the officers and formed a soft line because they've pulled back everyone from the area. we haven't seen any sort of people going back and forth with them. it looks like people from the community are happening out on the inside of trying to push some of that glass out of that store. >> all right. ryan thanks very much. ryan will be on the streets of baltimore watching what's going on. what's happening outside the states attorney's office this is a live picture, we're getting

a protest under way. friday morning the police are supposed to be presenting their initial report to the state's attorney on the death of freddie gray, the 25-year-old who died in police custody. these people are protesting. let's listen in briefly and hear what they're saying. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> justice. >> no peace. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> no more killing. >> police. >> no justice. >> no peace. >> they're saying no justice, no peace. this protest happening outside the office of the state's

attorney in mary lapd over there. they're going to be getting the police report on friday on the death of freddie gray. we will find out what happens, presumably they will be making a statement when we come back we'll be speaking with baltimore district 7 councilman nick mossby his wife is marilyn mowsby the state attorney getting the report from the police. we'll be right back.

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joining us. thanks for joining us. your wife is the state attorney there in baltimore. she's going to be receiving that report. you have no involvement with her office but a lot of folks want to get some information on what happened to freddie gray. what do we expect? what do you think as a councilman we should be expecting to learn friday? >> i think what's fair and really the gist of a lot of the initial protest was the basic information. you know why was he chased? the police need to formally need to state that. why was he detained and as rested and what was he charged with? it's really important for the police to kind of evaluate that. that's kind of the nexus behind the situation as it relates to him running, being chased and ultimately being arrested and seemingly 25-year-old guy, who folks feel was pretty healthy, 40 minutes later is in the condition that he was in. so the community really wants to know like just the basic information of the policing tactics that were used to arrest

and detain mr. gray. >> do you think we'll get that on friday? there's been some concern if your wife marilyn, if she relations that information, potentially the fear is maybe kite undermine the legal process if, in fact, any of the police officers will be charged? >> well i think there is some information that is critically important to any criminal investigation to ensure you put yourself in the right position as it relates to going to trial, but there's also some basic facts of, you know what actually took place that folks want to know. they want to know why did the police feel they had the probable cause to go after him and made the decision to arrest him. at the end of the day that's the things the community has been calling out, prior to mr. gray dying. as soon as he was arrested folks wanted to know why he was arrested. >> fair enough. talk about some words that have been used. as you know the mayor stephanie rawlings-blake referred to the individuals that were involved in the rioting, the looting, the

burning monday night as thugs. president obama used that term when discussing the violence. listen to the president. >> my understand is you've got some of the same organizers now going back into these xhupts to try to clean up in the aftermath of a handful of criminals and thugs who tore up the place. >> now some people are suggesting community leaders the word thug is equivalent sort of the new "n" word if you will. what are your thoughts? >> i think that at the end of the day, clearly everything that they did was criminal. everything that they did we should go after and figure out who these folks are and they should be prosecuted if we can figure it out. you know throwing around words i don't think really -- it kind of takes us off base. at the end of the day this was criminal activity that occurs much more violent activity occurs in our communities on a daily basis. the bigger point i would like to highlight here wolf it really

exposes to the world urban america. you know, unfortunately, we don't necessarily highlight the intricacies associated with the systemic issues that plague our communities and this is not a west baltimore thing. this is an urban america phenomenon. decades old systemic issues have been playing our communities and that's the byproducts of what we see. i'm not condoning it. it's unacceptable. we must go over those folks. this is a huge opportunity for america to look through the lens of being americans to knows those children violating the law and should be pursued at the end of the day there's byproduct of generations of failed policies byproducts of ills from generations ago. they're living through their fathers and grandfathers' plight associated with the economic struggle in these communities and again it's not west baltimore thing, this is an urban american thing. >> a point president obama made yesterday as well. as you know the -- last night

was relatively calm. how much of that do you believe was the result of an extra police/national guard presence how much was the involvement of people in the community, how much of a role did they play? why was it relatively peaceful last night? >> wolf i think it was a collaborative effort. i was out on monday night walking through the street while buildings were on fire, while folks were still looting. we came out with some elders of the community, a lot of pasters and preachers and we walked and were able to calm down a lot of young folks before the police moved in. i think that folks after seeing that knew the importance of reaching out to these young guys on the street knew the importance of organizing from a community perspective. throughout yesterday there was so many groups and so many businesses and so many clergy folks that were engaged on the community to try to ensure that the calm was kept. saying that it's also critically important we have 5,000 law enforcement folks from jurisdictions around maryland

out there, we had national guard out there, and i think the curfew made us silent a lot. i was driving in my district around 11 and went back out around 12:30 it was empty and folks obeyed the law of curfew. i think it was a mixture, a collaborative effort. >> you think keeping the curfew at least a few more days into next week is a good idea? >> i definitely do wolf. i think that, you know for us to pat ourselves on the back and be overly optimistic is the wrong stance at this point. folks are really in pain folks are really frustrated folks really want answers and i think that this is going to be a fragile and delicate time in the city of baltimore, so i think it's critically important that we do not let off associated with the tactical operations of ensure our communities and residents and constituents are safe however at the same time knowing that hopefully we're towards the end of the tunnel and light is there. i don't want to be optimistic.

we need to do what we did last night. >> a lot of work to do in the immediate days ahead and as you correctly point out the months and years. a bigger problem than baltimore. a bigger problem happening all over the united states. nick we'll continue our conversations. hopefully you'll join us back here tomorrow as well. thanks very much. good luck. >> any time, wolf. s the residual impact could be for decades and that's what we're trying to fight through. >> everybody has to work hard to make sure this country is a better country. thank you, micmosby a councilman. >> much more including a live report from camden yards where they're about to play the first ever major league baseball game in the united states without a single fan in the stands. we'll tell you what's going on. stay with us.

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the new attorney general of the united states loretta lynch is getting ready to speak, a live picture coming in from the justice department. she will make a statement on what's going on in baltimore first public comments op this situation since she was sworn in as the new attorney general on monday. we're going to have live coverage of that coming up. that's momentarily. we'll hear what the attorney general of the united states has to say. we're following all the troubles in baltimore. we're continuing our special coverage the unprecedented scene about it play out at the home of the city's major league baseball team. less than an hour from now, the baltimore orioles will host the chicago white sox in a game that's closed to the public. that means there will be no fans

cheering them on. nearly 46,000 seats all empty. even major league baseball says that has never happened before. let's bring in our sports anchor outside camden yards in baltimore, home of the baltimore orioles. this is amazing. they've decided to let the game go forward, people will watch it on television no fans in the stadium, out of security concerns right? >> yeah. absolutely. i was just inside the ballpark and wolf there's no other word for it but eerie. batting practice is going on like it usually does music playing like it usually does but there's no fans in the stands like there usually are. i spoke to an orioles' official and he told me they are trying to keep things as, quote, normal as possible for the players. although nothing is normal. you will hear the music throughout the broadcast. they will have walkup music, going to have a national anthem although taped. they will try to do a seventh inning stretch even though there's not a lot of people there to stretch but they will try to play the john denver

music custom here in baltimore and try to have semblance of normalcy in what is an abnormal situation. i spoke to a few players and they, of course, have never seen anything like this because nothing like this has ever happened in the 100 year plus history of major league baseball. acam jones in particular the orioles' all-star had poignant words for this community, been very active in the inner city since he came to the team he told the youth of this community he said, i want you to know someone has your back. he said your frustrations are understood but went on to violent actions are unacceptable. that's sort of the message here. everybody trying to carry on but understanding how serious conditions are. >> so the fear, rachel fans if they showed up in big numbers, there could be riots or fans could be in danger? was that the fear? >> i don't think anyone thought there would be riots at the ballpark but a situation when you a large crowd gathering in a city where they are trying to

encourage people not to gather in large crowds is a problem. it would be a tax on the city's resources to have the police presence you would need here for a large crowd. it would probably be a magnet for protesters, not something they want to create at this point in the city because some of the situations have turned violent. all of those considerations were at play. that being said there's controversy here. there are certainly people who thought that hey, if you look around baltimore, today, at 2:00 in the afternoon -- >> rachel hold on for a moment. hold on. the attorney general lor tet ta lynch is speaking at the justice department. let's listen in. >> in restoring calm and resolving the unrest that broke out across the city. i also want to take this community to express my deepest condolences to mr. gray's family and friends. as you know the civil rights division and fbi are already conducting a full and independent investigation into the tragic death of mr. gray. also both the office of community oriented policing

services which we call cops and the community relations service, also known as crs, have been working to defuse tensions as that process continues. the head of the department civil rights division and ron davis, director over cops office are meeting with faith and community leaders in baltimore and they have also visited one of the injured officers who still remains hospitalized. after being injured in this conflict. i'm told he is in good spirits and, of course i want to convey my best wishes and prayers for his speedy recovery. i want to make it clear once again, these senseless acts of violence are not only a grave danger to the community and they must stop, but they are counter productive to the ultimate goal here which is developing a respectful conversation within the baltimore community, and across the nation about the way our law enforcement officers interact with the residents that we are charged to serve and protect. and that's a conversation that i

am committed to advancing. i'm heartened that the unrest of a few nights ago has seemed to ease and members of the community are trying to come together again to clean up their city. i'm hopeful that progress will continue in the coming days. let me add something else about the issue in a larger sense. as we watch the events unfold in baltimore, from the relative security of our offices or a television screen it's easy to view baltimore as a symbol of the issues that we must all deal with. and, of course the difficult situation there does highlight so many issues that are part of our national debate. but i would ask that we remember that baltimore, as significant as it is is more than just a symbol. baltimore is a city. it's a great city. it's a beautiful city. it is one of our cities. and like so many cities baltimore is struggling to balance great expectations and

need with limited resources. it's dealing with balancing the challenges of public safety and community expression. but more importantly, baltimore is a home to more than 600,000 people and it was their home that the peaceful protesters were trying to make better and it was also their home that the injured officers were trying to protect. so let us keep all of the people of baltimore in our thoughts and in our prayers in the coming days. so thank you for allowing me that digress. but i want to turn to another one of my priorities for the department of justice, something else. >> there we hears the first public statement on camera statement, from the new attorney general of the united states loretta lynch, who was just sworn in succeeding eric holder on monday, and now she's speaking out passionately what's going on in baltimore right now. she made it clear that the rioters, the looters, the arsonists, there is no justification for these kinds of senseless acts of violence at the same time she said there are

serious issues that must be addressed in baltimore and not just in baltimore across the nation very clearly echoing what president obama himself said yesterday in the white house rose garden. we'll get full analysis of what we heard, much more coming up. also two days two different reactions, look at what changed to bring about relative calm to the streets of baltimore. >> we want justice. (music)

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prevailing in baltimore. these were the scenes from monday. buildings on fire protesters confronting police. businesses being looted. on tuesday, a tense calm filled the streets as a curfew took effect. i want to bring in mark claxton retired new york city police detective and directors of the black law enforcement alliance. thanks very much for joining us. i assume you believe that 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. curfew was a good idea? >> good idea and it was effective. given if you juxtapose what occurred the night before last and last night, there was a huge difference and thankfully there wasn't an overzealous response on the part of the police itself as we witnessed in previous interactions like in ferguson. there was really a controlled and tempered response and minor amount of violators to the curfew. >> should they -- do you believe they should keep that curfew in

effect into next week? >> i think at this point, it's important to maintain that curfew. i'll tell you, specifically because there's some confusion out in the community and across the nation as a matter of fact i think many people are expecting some details or chronology about events surrounding mr. gray's death to come out on friday. however, the mayor made it clear that there will be no major announcement or chronology given to the public or family merely there will be passing on the results of their report the police report to the state attorney's office. so i think there will be on friday, tomorrow some level of frustration, anger disappointment because many people are waiting for this may 1st deadline to come to finally get some idea about what contributed or caused mr. gray's death. >> and if they don't get that because the expectations are they'll at least get some more information on what led to freddie gray's death, if they don't get it what should police national guard personnel, what

should they be bracing for? >> well, you have to prepare for the unexpected and expected or the probable or the possible. it's such a tenuous situation and things are changing on a dime. you never know what will cause an extended burst of emotion or some immediate response. even from, you know peaceful law abiding protesters you know when you have a group of people who congregate in one particular area and have some impact on the flow of traffic or commercialism in that particular area it's necessary to have a police response so you want to be overprepared as opposed to under prepared as they were on friday -- i mean op the first day of disorder when the young people let out of school. they were a bit caught off guard. you don't want that to occur again. you would rather ber prepared for events. >> mark claxton, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf.

still to come. the events in baltimore may have shocked much of the nation but we'll talk with one reporter who says it was just a matter of time. stay with us.

welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. our next guest says it was a matter of time before baltimore exploded. his words. michael fletcher a reporter for

"the washington post" and lived in baltimore more than 30 years and he writes this let me read it to you. baltimore is not ferguson and its primary problems are not racial. mayor, city council president, police chief, top prosecutor and many other city leaders are black as is half of baltimore as the police force, yet the gaping disparity separating the have and have nots in baltimore are as large as they are anywhere. michael fletcher is joining us live from baltimore, thanks very much for writing that excellent article in "the washington post." explain your afall sis, why there's two baltimores for all practical purposes your words. >> you see, wolf, this across the country. you have a city like any other city where you have a working and middle class but also in baltimore a huge poor population in many ways is disconnected from the life of the city. and their connection to the city really is through the police

force, the police going there to keep order. look at some of the social indicators in those communities, drug abuse is rampant, baltimore as a city is considered to be the number one heroin using city in america according to the federal government. you look at schools in winchester the neighborhood where freddie gray grew up half -- almost half of high school students miss more than 20s days of school a year. 20% of the middle school students do. the census track that encompasses winchester has the highest number of maryland state prison inmates in the state. so you look at that and you sort of have this kind of dichotomy that exists. baltimore, which in many ways is a beautiful city within that you have this kind of rolling kind of -- all these social problems. >> why do so many people in baltimore distrust police? we've pointed out -- you pointed out in your article a black police commissioner half of the

3,000 members are african-american so why is there so much distrust and why did it explode that violence explode on monday? >> i think it has to do with the role the police play in a part of the city that i argue is disconnected from the rest of the city. when the cops come in there, they're doing drug sweeps they're, you know, arresting everyone in sight and many people argue that's what they need to do because you have open air drug markets, high level of violence so you kind of more of an occupied kind of feel. the police -- people talk about community policing in baltimore and past commissioners have tried to implement that but when it comes to the communities the cops come in with a heavy hand and that breeds resentment. basically too much interaction with the police. >> i recommend your article to our viewers out there. they can go to your "washington post" website to reach it. a long-time reporter for "the washington post" thanks very much for joining us.

>> my pleasure wolf. >> thank you. just ahead, what will it take to fix the problems in baltimore and elsewhere around the country as well. we'll speak with an nfl player whose facebook post on the issue has taken the internet by storm. benjamin right there, he has powerful words to share with our viewers, we'll be right back.

the unrest in baltimore prompted a facebook post by the new orleans saints player

benjamin watson which has garnered thousands of likes and shares. he says with so many of today's problems we talk about fixing broken systems, but he goes on to say this hes says without a change of heart these attempts will fail us. he says what can we do? what can we say? systems are broken. systems, because people are broken and systems are fixed without hearts being changed the result will be a legalistic attempt that will lack long-term results. benjamin watson joining us from new orleans. benjamin thanks very much for joining us. you also wrote a post a lot of us remember when ferguson happened which prompted a huge response on social media. you talk about fixing these problems we face by changing hearts. how does society do that? >> well thank you, wolf for having me. when i'm watching the things that have happened in this country, really i try to put myself in the space of those who are in many times lashing out. there's tremendous pain in this country, and i really think that

we're at a turning point where if we don't address some of these issues america is going to cease to exist how we know it. everybody has remedies an we talk about changing this and that but i believe that the heart of man is what makes us do these things and without a relationship with god, without his heart being changed, simply just putting band-aids on bullet wounds and without having a new heart we change things but the people feel the same. police officers that are abusing people people rioting, still have crime happening but god wants to give us a chance to love our fellow man and that only happens through a relationship with jesus christ. >> you also write that baltimore, you see smoke, but you say, we must address the fire. explain what you mean by that. >> first of all, we need to recognize the fact that people are upset because of things that have happened over generations and this isn't just a flippant reaction. these things have been brewing,

there has been injustices that have happened in the neighborhoods. i think part of moving forward is being able to recognize and acknowledge that yes, there are certain times when people have been treated wrongly because of the color of their skin. once you can address that that gives that person . the family is the structure that god gave us to teach young men, young women how to act when they get in public. it teaches them how to obey it teaches them responsibility it teaches them all those things. when you're looking at the break down of the family -- and i'm not just talking about the black community. in general in america, there's a fatherlessness issue that we have. and i think when we see kids

black or white, lashing out, a lot of it has to do with the identity and being taught those things at home and having the father in the home. >> that's well said indeed. benjamin you're a professional athlete. think about this. the baltimore orioles are about to play the chicago white sox in baltimore in a stadium that seats 46,000 fans. there will be zero fans because of security concerns. they're going to play the game. we'll be able to watch it on television. can you imagine an nfl game hopefully it'll never happen that you would play a game and there would be no fans cheering? just talk a little bit as a professional athlete about this amazing scene we're about to see in baltimore. >> well i guess the good thing about baseball is they have i don't know 180-something games. one game without fans isn't as big a deal as playing a football game without fans when we only have 16 of them. but this just points to the severity of the issues in baltimore. really the severity of the issues that we're facing in america where we have a

professional sports team not able to play and fans not able to come to the game because of issues going on in this city. i am encouraged however, because i know people in baltimore, i know pastors in baltimore. i've seen people on the streets holding hands, praying in baltimore. my hope is that through this whole thing, the body of christ will come together and be the example, be the example of what it means to love your neighbor be the example of what it means to demonstrate these things. show the world that hearts can truly be changed, not just through policies but through the love of christ. >> benjamin watson plays for the new orleans saint, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> still ahead, the crisis in baltimore also hits the campaign trail here in the united states. hillary clinton just the latest candidate to sound off on the topic of race and justice in america. what she just said, what some other white house contenders have to say. that's coming up.

let's get back to our coverage on the situation in baltimore as the city cleans up. contenders for it the white house in 2016 are weighing in on the shocking scenes of violence playing out from hour to hour. not even an hour's drive from washington we're talking about baltimore, which is only about 40 miles away from the nation's capital. hillary clinton said her heartbreaks for the families of young men like freddie gray, said investigators in baltimore are disrespecting the community -- disrupters are sitting back. the instigators in baltimore, i should say. she also took the opportunity to call for immediate change with police across the country. take a listen. >> we should make sure every police department in the country has body cameras to record braxs between officers on patrol and suspects. that will improve transparency

and accountability. it will help protect good people on both sides of the lens. >> let's bring in nia malika-henderson our senior political reporter. first time she's done a major sort of policy speech since announcing right? >> that's right. i think just in terms of presentation it was well delivered. in terms of the message there, some things i think we've heard before. not necessarily from her, but certainly from president obama. body cameras. i think the theme she was trying to get across is this idea of balance, restoring balance back into the criminal justice system ending the era of mass incarceration. it's something i think people were waiting to hear from her because there were questions about how she would approach this given that her husband, many people think, was sort of the father of mass incarceration. >> because he was sort of -- >> because he was very tough on crime. >> whole subject of race and justice in america. she tackled that head on today. >> exactly. she did.

again, i think people wanted to hear this from her. it was a good speech. it was a perfectly timed speech because we're in the middle of this national conversation about this. i think we'll end up hearing more from her. >> the former governor of maryland martin o'malley he canceled a trip to europe to be on hand. there was an incident where he was a little heckled. >> that's right. people remember what it was like to be citizens in baltimore under martin o'malley. he had a policy of zero tolerance, which meant if you were young and black, you were often subject to searches and seizures. he was very harsh in terms of meting out punishment even for small crimes. >> let me debtget your thoughts on republican contenders. rand paul, he says there are so many things we can talk about, the break down of the family structure, the lack of fathers, the lack of sort of a moral code in our society. this isn't just a racial thing. then he quipped, i came through

the train on baltimore last night. i'm glad the train didn't stop. that's rand paul. then there was dr. ben carson retired neurosurgeon from johns hopkins university. he says if you have an unpleasant experience with a plumber, do you go out and declare a war on all plumbers doctors, teachers, et cetera? it doesn't make sense either. >> i think rand paul got a little blow back. they were concerns people african-americans, took his comments about not stopping in baltimore, they found those to be insensitive. he understands that. he wishes he would have framed it much differently. i think over the next weeks and months this is something that keeps coming up these criminal justice issues. we'll see what the others offer as well. >> certainly going to be an issue in the campaign i assume. thanks very much.

that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." for our international viewers "amanpour" is next. for our viewers in the u.s. brooke baldwin is in baltimore. she picks up coverage of the state of emergency there. and good afternoon. i'm brooke baldwin here live in baltimore in front of camden yards where we're five minutes away from the first pitch. we're going to talk about everything happening here in baltimore in just a moment. for the second time today, i just want to take a moment and discuss something thataid on my show just yesterday. i just want to apologize. during my show i gave credence to the idea that veterans returning from war who were police officers were furthering the problems in communities like these here in baltimore and nationwide. and i just have to take a momen