police make more arrests, meanwhile, while trying to get everyone off the streets and once arrested, crowded conditions. lack of water, using bread as pillows and that is what one public defender says protesters are dealing with when they are taken to jail. listen to this. 18 st. louis mothers are told their babies died in childbirth. now the possibility that those babies might actually be alive. can you imagine? we are going to get into that in a bit. we wish you a very good morning on this sunday. i'm christi paul. good morning, victor. >> good morning. i'm victor blackwell here in baltimore. the governor larry hogan is calling today for a day of prayer and peace, as hundreds of protesters continue to rally over the death of freddie gray. most of them were peaceful, celebratory even. but overnight, police made several arrests after a small

group of demonstrators violated the city's curfew and many are upset this curfew is continuing. they say it's hurting their businesses and impacting jobs here as well. it's creating some very tense moments ago. cnn's sarah sidner shows us. >> we are standing on the corner of west north and pennsylvania. there have been several arrests overnight here alone and in other parts of the city. the curfew came at 10:00. some people decided, most people in this area decided to go home. there were a handful of people that decided not to. a bit of a dramatic scene a man arrested lying on the ground and dragged from one point to the other. it also appeared that he had ingested perhaps some pepper spray and was having difficulties with that and they ended up taking him away after arresting him and putting him into an ambulance and taking him for medical attention. most of the other protesters who were arrested or those who decided to defy the curfew have been taken in without major incident.

the last person we saw, a young lady who says she was arrested down the street didn't want to get into the van. that went on for a bit of time but now they have taken her in as well. we now know there are at least a half dozen arrests here and there were arrests in other parts of the city as well. back to you guys. >> sarah, thank you so much. the protesters arrested during the riots were held in deplorable conditions according to marci johnson, assistant public defender here in baltimore. her post on facebook described those conditions and went viral and marci joins us now. good to have you this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> you said in this post, not only had these women been held for two days and two nights on without any sort of formal booking, but almost none of them had actually been charged with anything. shocking to you? >> yes, absolutely. there are a great many of them.

i think 101 people male and female were released without any charges ever being filed and we don't anticipate most of those people there ever will. >> do you spp civil lawsuits out of that? >> i can't speak to that. that's not my area of expertise so i don't know what people are going to do. can i say we believe it was illegal for them to be held that long without seeing a commissioner or having a bail or probable cause determination and certainly without charges ever being filed. >> let me read a little more of your facebook post here. you said that some of the women used slices of bread as pillows. >> yes. unfortunately, i've come to learn -- i've heard stories before and i've seen things before. i did go over there quite frequently for work. it was business as usual for central booking except the fact there were a few more people over there. the bread for pillows, sandwich pillows and recently i've her cracker package for pillows is common occurrence for booking.

it was more shocking because there were women over there who weren't part of any protests and they weren't doing anything wrong and they were just rounded up with a bunch of protesters on their way home or in one young lady's instance trying to get back to her dorm room. >> wow. let's talk about specifically the bails. many people are calling them exorbitant. the case many people are talking about this. allen bullock was seen smashing a police car window and his bail is set at $5,000 when the officer's bail at most was $350,000. >> they are working hard to try to bring attention to the exorbitant bails in this city. they tend to be high any way especially for nonviolent property crime and nonviolate drug offenses and people that have little or no records. in this case, i think it's highlighted the problem because

most of these people that were charged the majority of the people that weren't involved, i suppose, were released on wednesday night. but the people that were actually charged with something, their bails have been in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. that young man's bail was $500,000. i've heard because of miss misdemeanor theft it is -- excuse me, it's not proportionate to the crimes they are charged with. yeah, it is a problem. the public defender's office here in baltimore is in the process, i believe, of filing heinous motions for all of those folks because the bails are just outrageous. >> do you expect they will be in lock-up through the next few days, the next week? >> i'm not sure because -- i mean, i've been, obviously, involved in talking about the conditions at central booking. i haven't been checking these things. but i've heard from reliable

coworkers and sources that as of yesterday, no one had posted any of those bails. >> wow. >> they were still sitting there. as everyone knows the officers were bailed out immediately. >> i'm not an attorney but i say that the detention is illegal. you can't speak to the civil element, but these sfofficers w is arresting them, is there any criminal filing potentially? >> i can't speak to that. i don't believe so. i think the problem was that people were held beyond the time period that they were allowed to be held. and i think that there are, obviously, multiple issues involved. they were -- in maryland, we have a rule of prompt presentment which means you're to be brought before a judicial officer in a prompt manner, usually in a matter of hours. certainly never any longer than 24 hours. the governor did try to extend by executive order that amount of time to 47 hours. we believe that, in and of

itself, was illegal, and the people that were released on wednesday night most of them had been well over 24 hours and some longer than the actual 47 hours. >> we will continue to stay on top of this. marci johnson, thank you for helping us understand what is going on inside. >> thank you for having me. thank you. >> all right. in several hours, maryland governor larry hogan is calling for a statewide day of prayer and peace. baltimore community leaders say it's time for this curfew to stop because it's hurting businesses, it's hurting jobs. but, for now, officials have not said if they are lifting it because we are expecting this news conference at some point in the day much like we have saw yesterday and previous days in which they will announce if the curfew will go into effect again. it began on tuesday night. let's bring in cnn correspondent rene marsh in a moment. first, listen to this. >> the issue of keeping the curfew in place is just something that was our decision to make that, it was our policy

that we set in place and we continue to support that. we just ask for patience as we move forward. >> so what is the expectation for today? any indication? >> the question remains we still don't definitively know if and when they will drop this curfew. you just heard the announcement there. they said that it was still going to be in place 10:00 today. but there is this pressure to drop the curfew. i mean, not just from protesters but groups like the aclu saying, look, this is burdening people who live in baltimore from simply going about their everyday lives. businesses, they are suffering. the waterfront, it was a beautiful day yesterday and it was empty. so speaking to a lot of business owners, they are losing money as well because of this curfew. so there is this pressure to drop it. however, the mayor just saying yesterday that she still is assessing and i think the bottom line is they want to make sure that we don't see a replay of the violence that we saw earlier

last week. >> there is that unique element, last night alone, the mayweather/pacquiao fight and bars and restaurants planned on making big money that night. the fight, i believe, started at 10:00 but people had to be home at that point. >> exactly. we saw last night that protesters were pushing back. there were raeverts because there were protesters who defied the curfew and said we are not leaving, we are not going home. so there is this sense that they want this to end, not only the curfew, but they also want to see an even more intense drawback of police presence as well within the community. >> rene marsh, thank you so much. you can't see it in this shot, but there are still baltimore police, state troopers, national guard here behind us. you can see it in that shot there. rene marsh, thank you so much. we will continue to follow that element as we wait for this announcement if the curfew will go into effect again tonight.

what do you do after a week of protests? i'm talk with a baltimore pastor who is a former officer, about what he wants to see happen in his hometown of baltimore. i don't want to live with the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder whether i should seek treatment. i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. harvoni is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who've had no prior treatment. it's the one and only cure that's one pill, once a day for 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. with harvoni, there's no interferon and there are no complex regimens. tell your doctor if you have other liver or kidney problems, or other medical conditions. and about all the medicines you take including herbal supplements. harvoni should not be taken with any medicines containing amiodarone, rifampin, or st. john's wort. it also should not be taken with any other medicine that contains sovaldi.

side effects may include tiredness and headache. i am ready to put hep c behind me. i am ready to be cured. are you ready? ask your hep c specialist if harvoni is right for you. when you're living with diabetes, ♪ steady is exciting. only glucerna has carbsteady, clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. i'm a bull rider make it part of your daily diabetes plan. so you stay steady ahead.

welcome back. i'm victor blackwell live in baltimore.

this morning, there are new details involving of the task force created by the baltimore police department to look into the freddie gray case. here is what we know about the investigation. according to "the baltimore sun." and they got exclusive access to this task force. there were more than 30 members, including staff from the crime lab, the force investigation team, internal affairs, also from the homicide unit, and 250,000 dollar laser imaging equipment that recreates the ride that gray took in the police van by checking every pothole and crack in the road to determine if this tough ride was contributed to road conditions. let's bring in law enforcement analyst tom fuentes and danny sovales. we were talking about this a moment ago, tom, the internal evidence inside of freddie gray's body and why his spine

was severed according to the report what is found in the autopsy. once he is handed over to medical officials, they could tamper with that in some way intentionally? >> absolutely, victor. they are trying to save his life and treat him for a week to continue to save his life throughout the medical treatment until he passes away. well, you know, that means that then the police, the crime scene investigators, the medical examiner's office are not getting a body exactly as it was at the time of the injury on the street. if you have a graduaunshot woun stabbing wound and if that person dies right away or they don't it's more clear what happened to them. in this case, because this is so difficult to question exactly how did the spine break, when did it break, how does it cause the spinal cord tear that leads to the death, as well as, you know, the talk about the voice box being crushed, all of that, you know, makes it difficult when the surgeons are, you know, doing what they have to do to

try to save his life. >> danny, we learned earlier in the week from the police commissioner that gray with not buckled in, that he was not given medical treatment when it was requested as he should have. but according to this baltimore sun reporting that the camera inside the van was also broken. does that have a large role in the criminal case or is that more of a civil issue? >> it could be both. because the criminal case is not too much different than the civil issue, just that the burdens of proof are higher in a criminal case. what is going to be important in this article that we saw in "the sun," now the police are going over the route taken by the van to check for potholes and that is two points. whether this injury could happen because of hitting potholes or even more if any officers gave like garrity statements and said while we were driving there were

gigantic potholes. if they locked into that statement and there aren't any potholes on the way it has a duel purpose. whether the injury occurred because of the conditions of the road or more whether or not officers were being entirely truthful. >> there is reporting that the task force found one of the officers said gray had, quote/unquote, jailitis, that he was faking an illness because he didn't want to go back to jail. what do you make of that? >> well, this is sort of a -- choice in many ways for officers. on some levels, sometimes arrestees do claim that they are ill, they can't breathe. it happens very, very frequently, so officers have a difficult job in assessing who has a serious problem and who does not. that being said, there are always some objective criteria of someone who is actually in distress and somebody who is not. in many cases, it's hard to fake. >> from your experience, do officers typically treat this with a dose of cynicism when

arrestees say i'm hurt, i can't breathe? >> it does depend on the circumstances. like i have asthma, i can't breathe. where is your breather? they take their precaution with them and don't ask a passer-by on the street i can't breathe, i have an inhaler. it's easy for outsiders to say we will call for medical help. that is a limited resource. if people are having heart attacks and medical emergencies or something wrong with their children or something, you don't want every ambulance in the county tied up taking prisoners who just make the claim falsely for the heck of it. so it's a difficult determination and when you determine and you're wrong, this is what can happen also, you're wrong. >> i want to you talk about this from two angles. the level of access "the baltimore sun" was given to this

task force. do you find any ethical concerns with that? we talked a bit in the break that it's not that common. >> no, i don't have an ethical. i think that the state's attorney's office would have been aware of it from the beginning and know that they have basically embedded reporters. i think what it shows is that a consideration on the part of the police from the very beginning, the scrutiny that they would be under, they just didn't want any possibility of somebody would say, well, you should have done that or you did it this way, you did it wrong, how do we know you really did it and how do we know you looked for every pothole? i think they wanted the documentation by an objective news source as opposed to them saying why they did did. >> a is defense attorneys we claim about the fact that police don't disclose enough information but, admittedly, it is a balancing test. for every piece of information that police disclose, that could be something that could compromise the integrity of the investigation, so they have a very difficult choice in deciding what to release and

what not to release, especially given the advents of scrutiny that they are other. >> danny and tom, thank you both very much. in a minute, we will talk with a pastor who is a former baltimore police officer and his days on the force and his concerns with the zero tolerance policies of martin o'malley who likely will soon run for president and what will tell the congregation today as this community tries to heal? >> thank you, victor. more than a week now after that magnitude 7.8 earthquake in nepal, so many people are still in desperate need of help and now some are accusing local politicians of pocketing some of the aid that is coming in. plus, think about this. eighteen st. louis mothers told their babies died in childbirth. but guess what? those babies might actually be alive. we have that story in a moment. stay close. i'm reworking the menu. veggies you're cool...

mayo, corn dogs... you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein... and 26 vitamins and minerals. and now with... ...twice as much vitamin d ...which up to 90% of people don't get enough of. ohhhhhhh. the sunshine vitamin! ensure now has 2x more vitamin d to support strong bones. ensure. take life in. (boys?) stop less. go more. the passat tdi clean diesel with up to 814 hwy miles per tank. just one reason volkswagen is the #1 selling diesel car brand in america.

something we do to show resolve. to defend ourselves. to declare victory. so cvs health provides expert support and vital medicines. make a fist for me. at our infusion centers or in patients homes. we help them fight the good fight. cvs health, because health is everything. i am a lot of things. i am her best friend. i am her ally. so i asked about adding once-daily namenda xr to her current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works differently. when added to another alzheimer's treatment, it may improve overall function and cognition. and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. vo: namenda xr doesn't change how the disease progresses. it shouldn't be taken by anyone allergic to memantine, or who's had a bad reaction to namenda xr or its ingredients.

before starting treatment, tell their doctor if they have, or ever had, a seizure disorder, difficulty passing urine, liver, kidney or bladder problems, and about medications they're taking. certain medications, changes in diet, or medical conditions may affect the amount of namenda xr in the body and may increase side effects. the most common side effects are headache, diarrhea, and dizziness. all my life, she's been there for me. now i am giving back. ask their doctor about adding once-daily namenda xr. the paccess to information, that no matter where they are.limited the microsoft cloud gives our team the power to instantly deliver critical information to people, whenever they need it. here at accuweather we get up to 10 billion data requests every day. the cloud allows us to scale up so we can handle that volume. we can help keep people safe, and to us that feels really good.

(ee-e-e-oh-mum-oh-weh) (hush my darling...) (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) (hush my darling...) man snoring (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) woman snoring take the roar out of snore. yet another innovation only at a sleep number store. more than a week after that devastating earthquake in nepal the death toll stands at more than 7,000. the hope of finding survivors is so grim at this point but a spokesman says it will be a miracle if anyone is found alive. people are struggling with poverty and corruption. look at these pictures we are getting in. they say help is not reaching their villages fast enough and

they accuse local politicians of pocketing the aid that is coming in. cnn's reporting is joining from the city of kathmandu. what have you learned there? >> people are getting desperate and frustrated. people are hearing about all of this aid that is coming in but it's not reaching that need it most and villages have been flattened and people have been living without food, water and shelter for days and more than a week now. many of them are badly injured and are having to walk down the mountains to get to the aid. some areas we are hearing about some sort of looting of relief materials and how desperate people have become. the government is clearly overwhelmed by the challenges. making it very difficult to get to the most rural parts of nepal. most of the villages are high up and spread out and much the way to get there is by helicopter and only 20 going back and forth and i've been' army base

watching this happen. every two minutes the helicopters are working with aid and coming back with injured people but it's simply not enough. the airport is jam packed. there is only one international airport and one runway. so much relief coming in, but, you know, it's just -- nepal's infrastructure is not able it handle all of this. of course, it's been raining on and off and there have been landslides. all of this really making it very difficult to get aid to these places. the thing that people -- a lot of people are now saying, nepal have always known there would be a massive earthquake at some point, that we are sitting on this fault line and as one expert called it, dynamite. what this has exposed nepal was not adequately prepared even though we have known it would always happen. >> thank you so much for bringing us the latest from that area. we appreciate it. also, we will talk to the mayor of gary, indiana, who was just at a conference to help

avoid another freddie gray incident. what she thinks should be done. ♪ if you're looking for a car that drives you... ...and takes the wheel right from your very hands... ...this isn't that car. the first and only car with direct adaptive steering. ♪ the 328 horsepower q50, from infiniti. i've had moderate to severe plaque psoriasis most of my life. but that hasn't stopped me from modeling. my doctor told me about stelara®

it helps keep my skin clearer. with only 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses... ...stelara® helps me be in season. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and increase your risk of infections. some serious infections require hospitalization. before starting stelara® your doctor should test for tuberculosis. stelara® may increase your risk of cancer. always tell your doctor if you have any sign of infection, have had cancer, or if you develop any new skin growths. do not take stelara® if you are allergic to stelara® or any of its ingredients. alert your doctor of new or worsening problems including headaches, seizures, confusion and vision problems. these may be signs of a rare, potentially fatal brain condition. serious allergic reactions can occur. tell your doctor if you or anyone in your house needs or has recently received a vaccine. in a medical study, most stelara® patients saw at least 75% clearer skin and the majority were rated as cleared or minimal at 12 weeks. stelara® helps keep my skin clearer. ask your doctor about stelara®. ugh... ...heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit.

mmm... amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief. ♪ [male announcer] if you've served in the military, certain habits may be hard to shake.

for reintegration and adjustment issues big, small and everything in between, visit easter seals dixon center.org. jones. zero, three, two, six. here to make a deposit. [bell chime] ting

bottom of the hour now. i'm victor blackwell live in baltimore. maryland governor larry hogan is calling for a statewide day of prayer and peace today. it's hoped that today will bring calm following some arrests in baltimore overnight. police arrested a number of protesters who stayed out in the streets, despite the city's 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. curfew. community members want the curfew, which has been in effect since tuesday, to be lifted now. we will see if that happens today. meanwhile, hundreds of community leaders and more than a dozen mayors met at the second annual convening of city's united, a national organization dedicated to eliminating, quote, violence related deaths of african-american males. the meeting comes in the wake of several disturbing incidents. the controversial deaths of

michael brown in ferguson, missouri, eric garner in staten island, new york, and freddie gray here in baltimore. it sparked a national debate about immediate and pressing issues in our country about race, urban poverty, and policing. we have with us karen freeman-wilson, the mayor of gary, indiana, and attended that conference. madam mayor, thank you for joining us this morning. i wonder if there is one overarching decision or consensus how to approach this problem that came out of this conference. >> i think the consensus that you'll find is that there are a number of underlying issues. you sort of talked a little bit about them. the concept of racism as it plays out in our urban communities. the issue of unemployment, of challenge school systems. all of those underlying issues

lead to frustration among many residents, particularly among african-american males. and you see some of the manif t manifestations through violence and not just the demonstrations, but protesters that really underscore at a loud volume what the sense of disenfranchisement and sense of hopelessness that many feel. >> there is a piece in "the new york times" this morning by nick kristoff says since the edge of forehea freddie gray, we treat them like a natural disaster imposed on us but, instead it is a consistent choice, it is a reflection of

socioeconomic decisions made over the time. i wonder if the approach is tailored to each city or each population, or is there an approach that works for every urban area? >> i think that certainly you have to tailor certain aspects, but there are certain themes, there are certain areas where we have to focus and i certainly agree with that concept. we have decided that it's too hard to deal with some of the issues. i mean, who wants to talk about race on a consistent basis? who wants to engage those who feel that they have been at the brunt of racism? who wants to talk about individuals who have been -- who have not even entered the employment market and those who have been out of it for so long, they don't ever see a prospect of a job? and in talking about it, you have to do something about it. you have to provide the training. you have to provide the education.

you have to acknowledge that you are failing some people in our educational systems and there are broad themes that apply to many cities that if we begin to develop solutions, they can be applied in a city-by-city basis and tailored to the needs of those communities. >> madam mayor karen freeman-wilson, i thank you for being a part of this conversation this morning. i think people appreciate that this is being discussed but what they would appreciate more is that there is some action planned and actual action to combat it. but i thank you so much for joining us and we will continue the conversation ahead at the top of the hour. we will take a closer look at how policies and politics have played a role in the situation, more about what nick kristoff called a choice of socioeconomic policies over a period of time. we have new disturbing information into a story we first told out new day about a

mother reunited with her daughter years after she was told after she died during childbirth. now 18 other moms who were also told their babies were dead are wondering if their children can be alive. chances are, you stayed up last night watching the big night, right? mayweather, the big winner. but was manny pacquiao at 100%? some are asking. i don't want to live with the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder whether i should seek treatment. i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. harvoni is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who've had no prior treatment. it's the one and only cure that's one pill, once a day for 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. with harvoni, there's no interferon and there are no complex regimens. tell your doctor if you have other liver or kidney problems,

or other medical conditions. and about all the medicines you take including herbal supplements. harvoni should not be taken with any medicines containing amiodarone, rifampin, or st. john's wort. it also should not be taken with any other medicine that contains sovaldi. side effects may include tiredness and headache. i am ready to put hep c behind me. i am ready to be cured. are you ready? ask your hep c specialist if harvoni is right for you. when you're living with diabetes, ♪ steady is exciting. only glucerna has carbsteady, clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. i'm a bull rider make it part of your daily diabetes plan. so you stay steady ahead. look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief.

and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ . i'm one. i'm one. i am one of the ones who discovered always discreet underwear for sensitive bladders. it makes me feel secure, confident and i feel protected.

i mean i feel comfortable to move in them they move with me. i love always discreet underwear because of the fit. the fabric is very soft. i can wear whatever i want to wear. always discreet made me a very happy woman. join over 500,000 women who've discovered always discreet underwear. for more stories and your free sample go to alwaysdiscreet.com so bladder leaks and feel like no big deal. 20 minutes to the top of the hour now. with all of the attention here in baltimore, the family of eric garner is now re newing their call for justice. you'll remember, he is the 43-year-old who died while being held down by police last summer in new york. now garner's widow, also his mother, noting the similarities between his death and the death of freddie gray.

sara ganim takes a look at cases. >> reporter: the arrest of six baltimore police officers in freddie gray's death has renewed calls for justice for eric garner, the 43rd-year-old father who died after apparently placed in an apparent choke hold by an nypd officer last year. garner repeated the phrase 11 times during his arrest. now we learn the 25-year-old gray also indicated to police officers that he, too, could not breathe. garner spoke about the similarities between her husband's last moments and gray's. >> the same way the man was screaming for medical attention and they refused to get it or delayed getting it was the same way that my husband was screaming, "i can't breathe," and they did not let the ems workers do what they needed to do for my husband to survive that incident. >> reporter: the grand jury's decision not to indict the officers involved sparked huge demonstrations in new york and reignited a national

conversation on police brutality that continues. in both cases, paramedics were called too late, but law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes says it's hard to criticize officers for not immediately calling for help. >> well, the problem is, and having made many, many arrests when i was a street cop myself before joining the fbi, is that that is kind of common that you hear people being arrested that are resisting in any way, say they can't breathe or they can't walk or, you know, claiming ailments that they don't really have. >> reporter: in garner's case, the department of justice is currently investigating civil rights violations. his family called for justice in a press conference on saturday. >> people in baltimore, south carolina, their prosecutor did the right thing and that is what we need. we need someone to step up and do the right thing. >> it's been ten months and there has been nothing done to

these police officers in regards to eric garner and i'm happy for the other families that they are getting justice, but we need justice here in new york for eric garner. >> reporter: but the difference between the two cases make it hard to draw comparisons. >> in the garner case, garner's resisting lawful arrest. if he would have complied, he would still be alive today and bad things wouldn't happen from the wrestling match they had on the sidewalk. in the gray case, it turns out even the arrest itself was completely unlawful and everything bad happens to him afterward, but he shouldn't have been in police custody for anything else bad to happen. >> reporter: regardless of the outcome of garner's case, protesters here believe his death added to the national conversation of police brutality, even though justice for freddie gray may not mean justice for eric garner. of course, it's hard to compare cases, but protesters here told me when they heard that freddie gray said something along the

lines of "i can't breathe," just like eric garner, that gave them renewed hope that the doj investigation may lead to some charges in the case of eric garner. victor? >> sara ganim, thank you so much. we have cnn legal analyst danny cevalos with me here. the family believes that justice for eric garner would be charges at least against those officers. any options here? any probability that they will get what they consider to be justice? >> you know, the interesting thing in the garner case is that a grand jury declined to indict but in this case, there have been charges filed but there has not been a determination of probable cause yet, either by a grand jury or by a judge in a probable cause hearing. in a way, we are not quite there yet. that could potentially happen in this case. it really remains to be seen. ultimately, victor, law enforcement is an entity of

limited resources. while it would be nice to have the option to look over every case of excessive force with a fine-toothed comb and scrutinize it, we don't have those decisions in law enforcement and decisions have to be made. even if there is a claim of excessive force, if a grand jury doesn't indict in another case, maybe the resources aren't available to have a second look at each and every instance of excessive force, but that is why we have the civil system of justice because if you believe that you've been the victim of excessive force and the government will not investigate it, then you can get a private attorney and pursue those claims. it may not satisfy that need for arresting the people that people believe are responsible, but it's all they have. >> may not fit their definition of justice in this case. but in the garner case, are you saying that it's specifically based on resources, or that they have exhausted the system when the grand jury came back without

the decision to indict? >> well, there are limited options. i mean, the local law enforcement can investigate. the federal, the department of justice can investigate. once those things are complete, other than either one of those government entities making a decision, well, let's take a second look at this, it's not very likely because, again, government is limited in its resources. >> danny cevalas, thank you so much. >> thank you so much, victor. there was one tearful reunion between a mother and her now grown daughter and it has more than a dozen other moms happening what happened to their children. eighteen moms were told their child had died. we are are talking to an attorney that wants a full investigation. if you can't put a feeling into words, why try?

at 62,000 brush movements per minute, philips sonicare leaves your mouth with a level of clean like you've never felt before, giving you healthier gums in just two weeks. innovation and you. philips sonicare. i'm reworking the menu. veggies you're cool... mayo, corn dogs... you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein... and 26 vitamins and minerals. and now with... ...twice as much vitamin d ...which up to 90% of people don't get enough of. ohhhhhhh. the sunshine vitamin! ensure now has 2x more vitamin d to support strong bones. ensure. take life in. but i think women would agree... watching football together is great... ...huddling with their man after the game is nice too. the thing is, about half of men over 40 have some degree of erectile dysfunction. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection.

and you only take it when you need it. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor... ...about viagra. we alwith a shout,world and we see no reason to stop. so cvs health is creating industry-leading programs and tools that help people stay on medicines as their doctors prescribed. it could help save tens of thousands of lives every year. and that would be something worth shouting about. cvs health, because health is everything.

(boys?) stop less. go more. the passat tdi clean diesel with up to 814 hwy miles per tank. just one reason volkswagen is the #1 selling diesel car brand in america. look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ . . 48 minutes past the hour. a story wefg following for weeks at cnn.

eighteen african-american women were told their baby had died after birth. they now believe their baby are alive and stolen moments after they were born. joe johns tells us what has happened to spark that new hope. >> i have always said for the last 50 years my child is someone. >> reporter: brenda stewart is feared that hir child may be alive that was her reaction when she saw the tv reunion of price and her 40-year-old daughter, gilmore, on a local newscast. zella had been told her baby died after giving birth in 1965, at the same hospital stewart gave birth which closed in 1979.

hospital staff allegedly took the infant from zella. dna records linked zella as melanie's mother years later, and little known to zella, her daughter was put in foster care. their paths crossed when melanie began to seek out her birth mother. >> as she came out, she was crying. they held her up for me to see her. >> she was never given an opportunity to hold her child, and the hospital staff allegedly returned to say her child was dead, and even more when stewart's parents arrived at the hospital, they told the parents they could not see the body because stewart signed the paperwork that she could be donated to science. she says she never signed the

paperwork because she was only 15 years old. >> and al, thank you so much. you talked to some of these women. help us understand emotionally where they are with this, because i just cannot imagine. >> these are women that have spent the better part of their adult lives with a gnawing feeling that they simply can't shake. when they saw the reunion of zella jackson price with her daughter 49 plus years following their separation at birth, they were struck -- it was like opening a wound again, only it's not picking at a scab, it's a gaping head wound. it's something that we have to understand, these are not individuals who have seen a bus accident and are running on to the bus to say they have a claim, too. these are older, generally late 60s and 70s and some in the 80s,

and some gravely ill, and african-american women who had children in the '50s and '60s in st. louis at a time when the city was extraordinary segregated, and even up until 1955, this hospital, homer g. phillips hospital was the black hospital, and they had a white hospital and a black hospital, and every one of these girls that went into the hospital, 15, 16, 17, 18, and they were young and very alone, and when they started to call in to zella jackson price and to subsequently, us, the stories that were related had key similarities and nuances which indicated that they were -- they had experienced something that zella jackson price had as well, and with zella jackson price, we had her baby, though. >> most of the births were in the 1950s to 1960s and all

african-american, and these were all poor and young moms. you are in indianapolis because you believe you have a lead there. what is that, and can you help us understand what evidence might there still be to move this forward? >> sure. the evidence procurement process is going to be challenging, but it's not going to be so daunting that we can't get it done. the hospital itself is closed. >> right. >> it was owned and operated by the city of st. louis, and the records retention protocol with that hospital is something that is problematic. the city of st. louis is giving us the assistance it can, and given its limited resources and access to the records, and we know in the cases of the adoptive children or adoptive families or in foster care situations, there are legal files, and there are adoptive care and foster care files, and both with the city which used to run the foster care system, and the state, which subsequently took it over.

so in the case of zella jackson price, the reason this came unpound is because zella jackson's prized child was hearing disabled, and at some point instead of being sold through adoption, that baby came back and they couldn't give her back because they told price she was dead, and they had to put her in the foster care system which opened up a whole new paperwork that let us get at it. >> thank you, and it's heartbreaking. >> it's vital those in the country outside of st. louis know about it because it has been 50 years and people have moved all over. >> no doubt. thank you so much for all the work you are doing and for talking with us about it, and we obviously keep you posted as we continue to learn more about that. meanwhile, ferguson had some of the same problems that baltimore is now going through, and that city was able, it

seems, to turn the corner. how does baltimore enact change. we will come up talking about that next hour of "new day," and mayweather wins, but did the fight live up to the hype? we'll take you to las vegas the morning after. ♪st. croix full of pure vibes ♪so nice, so nice ♪st. john a real paradise ♪so nice, so nice ♪proud to be from the virgin islands♪ ♪and the whole place nice to experience your virgin islands "nice", book one of our packages today. wow. sweet new subaru, huh myep.? you're selling the mitchmobile!? man, we had a lot of good times in this baby. what's your dad want for it? ..like a hundred and fifty grand, two hundred if they want that tape deck.

you're not going to tell your dad about the time my hamster had babies in the backseat, are you?! that's just normal wear and tear, dude. (vo) subaru has the highest resale value of any brand... ...according to kelley blue book ...and mitch. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

i have great credit. how do you know? duh. try credit karma. it's free and you can see what your score is right now . i just got my free credit score! credit karma. really free. it was called the fight of the century and years in the making, and did the battle between mayweather and pacquiao live up to the hype? we want to talk to somebody who was there. what was the feel there this morning? what is the buzz? >> it's a little dull this morning. can you see behind me, everybody is wrapping up and packing up and going home, and i have to say the fight did not live up to

the hype, kristi. it was like watching paint dry, and in the beginning it was the energy and the enthusiasm, and you saw the two fighters were not getting any reaction, the stuff fans paid all the big dollars to see. i think the talk today, kristi, is more about what came out after the quite. there was news that pacquiao was not his normal feisty ferocious self because he had a shoulder injury, and he was taking an anti-inflammatory that was approved by the agency, and when he went to take it before the fight, the gaming industry said you can't take it, and so that was holding him back and that has a lot of people talking this morning. >> and what celebrities were there watching? who did you see? >> you name them, and they were

probably there. jake gyllenhaal, and mark wahlberg and puffy combs was there, and marky mark, he said manny was going to win, and put a quarter of a mill on there, and sorry, mark, and diddy, he put his money to floyd, and so all the money and pomp and circumstance, it didn't really live up to all the hype. >> it's good to get that perspective from you since you were there. your next hour of "new day" starts right now. overnight, several arrests in baltimore. a lot of people upset about the curfew, and the question this morning is will there be one again tonight? >> baltimore, ferguson, two different towns but facing the same situation. the