second child syndrome, i guess, for the royals, because, of course, prince george would be next in line for the thrown. thank you for starting your morning with us.o "inside politics" with john king is next. make good memories today. president obama calls for soul searching after another crisis involving police and african-americans. he also called out those behind looting and arson. >> that is not a protest. that is not a statement. they need to be treated as criminals. >> ted cruz says the first african-american president is to blame some of the divide. >> he made statements that i think inflamed the racial tensions. >> it's time to end the era of

mass incarceration. >> candidates for president weigh in. >> this is the most powerful institution in our society. >> will the court take the issue off the table or make it a flash point of the 2016 debate? "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i am john king. thank you for sharing your sunday morning. here is our guests. chaos in baltimore unfortunately drove the nation's political conversation this past week, and before we add to that debate let's remember the most important voice cannot be heard, and freddie gray died while in custody and six officers now facing charges, and what came after that death is what gray's family begged the city to avoid,

violence, looting and arson, and the same legacy of distrust we heard in recent months in ferguson, missouri, and north carolina, south carolina. >> you have to do some soul searching. this is not new. it's been going on for decades. >> president obama and his new attorney general promise to investigate the specifics and invest the broader tensions between the police and african-american communities, and no matter what this president does the next president will inherit this debate, so what did we learn, and we heard from all the candidates, and we know it will be a big issue for the final 18 months of the obama presidency. will it be a big issue in the 2016 debates, or are the candidates hoping it's in the headlines this week and hope it passes? >> it's absolutely going to be a big debate, and it's hurting

hillary clinton not to debate whoever her opponents are, and it will be a more marginal issue. you had rand paul on the republican side come out with a speech on race last year and it was really tone-setting for the party that is trying to broaden its tent. i think a lot of people for a general election will want to try similar efforts, and i do think it's mostly going to be discussed within the democratic primary and you have republicans discussing it because criminal justice reform has been a big topic, too. >> so this will play out -- >> also, are there more of these kinds of episodes, and if it happens in october of next year it will be front and center. >> yeah, three of which were captured, and social media and viral video, this is what this is about to -- >> obama talked about that, you know, it almost happens every week or so and i think you are

right, and it will be driven by events. >> a quick sample of the democratic candidates and their take on baltimore. >> it's time to change our approach. it's time to end the era of mass incarceration. >> differently than secretary clinton, i actually had experience on the ground making police departments more transparent and more open. >> secretary clinton gave a speech on criminal justice reform and i have been talking about this for nine years. >> we have to make sure the police officers have cameras and we have to make sure we have real police reform so suspects are treated with respect. >> i think there is a lot of disagreements among the democratic candidates on what to do, and you heard them saying she is new, hillary clinton, the big frontrunner is new to this issue. let's start with secretary clinton, and we talked at this table in the past, and before she was a candidate, and this time she had a speech scheduled and she re-tooled the speech and

was active on social media, and thuz this was the first episode and they seem to be on top of it. >> i think the speech had been on the books for a while. one of the things about the speech is it was very well delivered. her tone was very good, and it was one of the best speeches she has given certainly in a while, and the campaign ready for what questions the reporters had in the shift of what bill clinton wanted to do and what she wants to do now, and one of the issues you here among the progressive activist that have been scrutinizing bill clinton and his record all this time and he is the father of mass incarceration, a population of prisoners went up 60% under his term, so she has got some work to do to distance herself, but it feels like the campaign -- >> it's the big crime of the clinton administration, which was pushed to the central with the help of vice president now, joe biden.

>> yeah, drawing a contrast with her husband's legacy. it was rand paul that started this more than a year ago. >> there was a reason why bill clinton ran the way he did in 1992, and the country was in a different place, and the wager of all of the democrats, the country has moved on from hortonesque politics, and bill clinton felt like he had to do it to win a national election, and we are in a different place now. democrats have become more of a majority party nationally. >> it's impossible to ignore the fact that hillary clinton, the way you beat hillary clinton this time around, the way barack obama beat her last time around is by attracting black voters, and nobody can take the nomination for her if she secures her base, and this is

the first time where it felt, correct, like it was in real time. >> that's why obama beater in 2008, he had upscale white liberals and past progressive and he put it together. >> this is all about the discussion of getting to her left, and she got to her own lift quickly. >> and also trying to frame this as an issue of inequality. if you looked at the speech she wanted to frame herself as a populist lawyer and she was working with edelman before anybody had heard from elizabeth warren was one of the things you took away from the speech. >> you mentioned rand paul, and he questioned certificate parts, and he has done out reach, and he said let's reach out to democrats and try to have consensus on this, and in his remarks about baltimore, and he said we have to deal with the

family structure, and he talked about this with ingram and his ride on the train. >> it's sad and scary, and i am glad the train didn't stop. >> kind of a flippant remark, and does that take the out reach and -- >> totally lost opportunity. again, he was so far ahead, he forced his own party to start addressing this in the senate and forced democrats to find ways to work with him, and this should have been the week he reminded us why he is running for president and how he distinguishes himself from the field -- >> and part of it, it was who he was talking to. >> shouldn't matter. >> and we saw hillary clinton when she was with elizabeth warren, and you are seeing it more with republicans because there are 19 republicans, but they are having a problem, and i

go to this audience and say this, and that audience i say that, and because of social media and the web and everything, you are going to hear a lot more of that. >> i don't know when to say nothing. >> exactly. >> jeb bush doesn't do a lot of that, but that could be his biggest problem. >> one other on the republican side is ted cruz who said this week that he thinks president obama has exacerbated the racial divide. >> he has exacerbated racial misunderstandings, racial tensions, from back at the beer summit to a series of efforts to pit americans against each other. >> let's assume he believes this genuinely, and i think we can

safely assume the republican base maybe cheered that remark. if you want to be a nominee of a party that can't win the white house without winning more nonwhite votes, again, even if you think it or believe it, why speak it? >> well, his audience, he has a very particular audience and it looks like iowa and folks in south carolina, he is not a candidate who is trying to pwauden the base, and he is not like rand paul who is trying to broaden the base even though he steps on his own message, but it's not surprising he said this. i don't know what it means, and he spwepb >> he is a historic president just by his background, but he never talked about race in society, and a black man with two lovely daughters and a loving wife, and why has pb pt he exploited that. that's a message that might resonate to democrats. >> i don't think it will resonate that well with democrats, and i could be wrong about that. >> there are plenty african-americans on his left

that made that point, too. >> is that what push is trying to say. >> yeah, he is the messenger. >> you better be careful how you do it. up next, the supreme court, same-sex marriage and fast-changing politics, and first, politics say the darnedest things, and his young interview takes issue with a run-on sentence. >> even the best writers usually, it's not that good the first time they write it. >> i think you sort of covered everything about that. >> you think i just -- you think i have been talking too long? >> no, i just think -- >> no, let's move it along.

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welcome back. you don't know how the supreme court will rule on the question of whether same-sex mayor sing a national right. we do now how fast the debate is changing. in 2000, no state allowed same-sex marriage, and massachusetts is the first in 2004, and now fast-forward today, 37 states plus the district of columbia allow same-sex marriage, and the changing map is because of changing politics. 2001, just shy 60% opposed same-sex marriage, and now it's a 40%, and let's look at the breakdown by political party. more than 6 in 10 democrats favor same-sex marriage, and nearly 6 in 10 independents do, and 30% of republicans favor same-sex marriage. faith also dictates how you feel on this issue. that 77% say this have no

religion, they favor same-sex marriage. and here is the hard part. 21%, only 2 in 10 evangelical christians say they support same-sex marriage. as we wait for the supreme court to rule they are some republicans think this could be taken off the table. >> it's an opportunity for candidates to make a splash. you have half a dozen candidates looking for support from evangelicals and it could be the lynchpin to their campaigns, and this opportunity, the court decision on the heels of this debate we are having, it's an opportunity for one of those candidates to stand out, and have their breakout moment. the idea they are going to put off a estimated and move on is fantasy, and the larger problem for the republicans, the

politics have become divided by the faithful and those who are not faithful, and you look at the chart there it tells the story. and believers, they have to get beyond that, and when you talk about an issue as polarizing as this, it becomes a challenge. >> on friday, one top aide to chris christie were indicted, and christie went on twitter issuing a statement saying this is what i expected and this is justice running its course and had no knowledge at the time, and the aide that copped the plea deal said he did, and chris christie is supposed to be in new hampshire on wednesday. >> this will come up. >> he says it has no impact on his decision? >> it has every impact on his decision. >> here is the thing, though. it might not. it should have an impact on his decision, and as you said it will be erpl streamly hard to

raise money, and he was taking a long time getting money for a machine with this, and was very caught off guard by jeb bush and marco rubio are doing in fund-raising, and i think chris christie still believes this is a good thing for him to do and i think he is still engaged in it, and if you look at it as one person who is a friend of me said to me, people don't care about the governor of new jersey, and if he is not running for president, i don't think the cameras are coming to trenton, and it's more interesting and engaging for him to do this. >> and i talked to a donor saying he was getting softer on supporting christie, and trials make months and years. >> folks on the ground, when he was in new hampshire, sort of in a joking way, people know this, because it's an easy thing to remember, traffic. >> you talk to christie, i saw a bunch of them in miami, and

another who was there said to me in the past, look, regardless of the legal problems, republicans west of the mississippi want nothing to do with a northeastern republican running anyway. so he will have problems no matter what, and put these two together and it could be a bit much. >> it gives them an out, and it's bridged to far now -- >> oh, nice. >> he still thinks the power of personality and the crowded republican field, he could get a niche. >> he does have political talents. >> the first state, iowa, and he is not a good fit for south carolina. >> 19 of them running -- >> the media question is fascinated, how long do the cameras stay on them? >> that's a good question. >> up next, tomorrow's news today, and our reporters share

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let's head around the inside politics table and ask our guests to share a tidbit from their notebooks. >> o'malley has left his job and is going to the host committee in philadelphia for the

democratic national convention. on one hand it's great, and it means she is losing her political adviser, and now hillary clinton likely to come in. >> everybody focuses on the relationship between jeb bush and his brother, george w bush, and i am interested in the third child of jeb bush, and he has been doing a lot of work for his father on the fund-raising circle, and focused on younger republicans. they may not give $50,000 but $50 or $5 at the most, and he was out at las vegas last week and showed up in miami for the donor conference he was having and went with him to puerto rico and is expected to continue doing a lot of wubg for his father, and george p., the

oldest, tied up, and jeb bush, jr., will work along one side so the next generation can get ready. >> i remember jeb and george on the trail in '88. >> yeah, you are old enough. and then now, carely framed herself as the anti-hillary clinton, and she is very much playing the gender card herself, and the best lines are about hillary clinton, and she is getting a lot of early buzz in iowa, and some of the crowds she has drawn over the last couple days, very much into her, and of course they are being introduced to her as well, and it will be interesting to see how she flames her candidacy. and it will be interesting to see these two women go at each

other, hillary clinton, and carly. >> jonathan? >> a preview of things to come. i jaw jeb bush speak at an event in washington where on three different occasions he singled out the senate for pretty tough criticism. he didn't mention marco rubio by name, but he was harsh talking about what senators do and how they can hide behind amendments and such, and at one point he said i am not a senator, and thank god i live in miami. and the coming message is this, i am a governor with an executive background and a record to talk about the accomplishment i have done, unlike, cruz, yes, and paul, yes, and it's really marco rubio is starting to get buzz now and they realize that could be a threat and they have to send a message how to send an executive

over youth. >> jim web will decide whether he is officially joining the democratic field, with bernie sanders in, and o'malley and chafee getting active. now he says he is encouraged by the early feedback in iowa and says there is a great grassroots reaction when he mentions critically how they are talking about raising more than $2.5 billion, and rick santorum, and webb says he is sometimes a little corky, and santorum moved to iowa and campaigned tirelessly, and had evangelicals that helped him, and i spoke with some that said there is no

doubt a need for a clinton candidate. that's it for "inside politics." thank you again for sharing your sunday morning. the "state of the union" starts now. if replaced for calls of a day and piece. this is "state of the union." i am live in baltimore where this morning the street corners are mostly quiet. that's different than what we saw yesterday in this city and across the nation when thousands from coast-to-coast rallies in solidarity with freddie gray. joining me from philadelphia, a city that saw some of the largest protests this past week, mayor michael nutter, and mayor william bell, also the president of the african-american mayor's association, and here with me i