and they're now reporting that they've had access to this b.e.a. report and have findings from it. one of the most interesting is that this pilot andreas lubitz might very well have practiced the decentscent he later conducted while on the outbound flight. this crash happened on the flight from barcelona to dusseldorf in germany. apparently during that flight there were several changes of altitude with no reason aero-- aeronaughtically he might very well have been practicing what he then later in the day did during that outbound flight. of course one of the things we've been talking about as this investigation moved forward is how premeditated was all of this. we know that he had flight simulator on his laptop that he practiced descending there.

we know he was looking into ways to commit suicide. that's also something the investigation has told us. we know he had mental elt issues as well. certainly if it turns out that indeed he was practicing this with an airplane full of passengers that of course makes the premeditated nature of all this just so much more clear. >> certainly very scary, right, fred? easy to say it's going to be tricky to prove. stay with us and bring in mary schiavo, former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation. mary let's try and understand this a little bit. fred reports there were changes in altitude and this earlier flight that this co-pilot and pilot took. what does that mean and how much of a range of change could you have without sending off warning signals? >> well that's exactly right, chris. the warning signals would have come in many forms. for example, to change your

altitude in this very busy corridor the eu's extremely busy in terms of flights in those areas they would have had to have gotten permission from air traffic control. presumably that the pilot was in the cockpit there would have been some reason for doing this. if it wasn't an aerognat kal reason air traffic controllers did not ask you to do it then there would be some sort of concoction why this fellow would want to do it he'd want to practice his descents and climbs. it should have set off alarm bells if it was done repeatedly. i'm going to do this do that. he didn't have a lot of hours, 600 hours. presumably he could have had a cover story he wanted to practice but it is very strange. ordinarily you fly your assigned altitude and stick to it in your most direct way to your route. >> mary let me put your understanding and fred's reporting on the same question. fred the obviously question's going to be why would you have to practice crashing? have you figured anything else out from the reporting yet about

what is their suspicion, their information-fueled suspicion that you would need to rehearse this? where do they get that? >> well it's a very good question. and certainly one of the things they'll be looking at is was he trying to do this in a way that maybe it wouldn't have been noticed that quickly. it did appear when the initial descent started on the doomed flight that it took the captain a little bit of time to find out in the situation that he'd been in. he'd been locked out of the cockpit, the plane was in a descent, that obviously would be fatal. in the end was he trying to give himself as much time as possible to cover everything up? those are questions the investigators are looking at. however, the report that by the way has just come online and we are going to go through it at this point in time this interim report it states more facts. it's less about making assumptions. but it is something that states a lot of fact. we're going to look and see how clear it is whether or not he

did practice that during that flight. certainly it seems as though there were some very very interesting things happening even on that outbound flight that this newspaper says could very well indicate that he was trying to test the waters in all this. >> all right. helpful. so mary more information. reuters is saying that the report is out and that it shows that the pilot ignored a dozen contacts from authorities during the ill-fated flight which makes sense he'd be ignoring it. but also that he set the autopilot to 100 feet five different times during the earlier flight. what does that mean to you? >> well that's very alarming. while you've got a plane load full of passengers and put your autopilot to 100 feet again over a very busy corridor in europe there's just no reason to do that. and you have to wonder what was the pilot doing presumably the pilot in command was following this. and that flight he wasn't out of the cockpit.

and if he was out of the cockpit and the b.e.a. report will have all this in it that they've just released whether or not the pilot in command was present, he was out of the cockpit and went unnoticed that's highly significant and that to me would be very very suspicious that indeed it was practiced. if he was in the cockpit presumably there's a cover story. but that makes no sense at all. you just wouldn't do it. >> while it is a window into the madness of this co-pilot help us understand why would you need to practice crashing? >> well you know even september 11 hijackers back 2001 the september 11 2001 hijackers they did walk-throughs. they walked around new york city. they had gps. they did lots of various practices. they scoped out everything. they didn't do it just on one day and there was, you know weeks and months and years of practice. so for him to do this to see if he could do it how much time it

would take for him to descend the plane, check the rate of descent, check what the plane felt like as he put it into the descent to see if perhaps he could get this plot going without the pilot in command being out of the cockpit actually noticing. so there certainly are reasons to practice such a heinous crime. that doesn't surprise me that one would try to do that. >> slow to spread blame. certainly slow to condemn. but as we're learning if all this reporting is accurate and he said it five times he's ignoring these warnings just setting that to 100 feet five times earlier, do you think down the road mary there will be some questions of accountability on what type of watchdog there was on this flight in the air? >> right. i think that's probably one of the most important things that can come out of this. and i know the loved ones of the persons onboard would want something to change because of this investigation. so the investigation will be looking for warning signs. what can we learn so in the future when things similar to this happen we know it's something to watch out for. and so that's one of the main

reasons they'll be poring over every little detail to find out the flags for the future. >> right. and on that subject obviously we cannot forget that we're talking about his rehearsal. now potential rehearsal, mental illness loomed large here and what happened with doctors and communication and the ability of family to know. fred you've done so well digging in on that. anything you learn about the report let us know so we can come back to you. mary schiavo, thank you very much. alisyn. another top story we're following, digging into the web of clues left behind two gunmen killed outside that cartoon contest in texas. the attack was "more than just inspiration." we go to cnn's kyung lah live in the gunmen's hometown of phoenix, arizona. what are we learning today, kyung? >> reporter: isis may be claiming responsibility but officials believe that may be opportunistic. investigators are scrambling

trying were the gunmen simply trying to obtain approval or were they working with that operative to launch an attack? this morning investigators on the hunt for any possible accomplices in the garland, texas terror attack. the fbi scrubbing through the two deceased gunmen's electronics found in their phoenix apartment searching for any clues that may connect elton simpson and nadir soofi to other terrorists in phoenix and across the country. but one law enforcement official says investigators did know simpson was openly communicating online with members of isis overseas and even opened a new investigation into both men in recent months. >> i think from an intelligence standpoint what's difficult is to move that quickly and to arrest him when it's not entirely clear that he's going to do it. and we have a lot of people on social media that are saying these kinds of things. >> reporter: simpson apparently had public exchanges on twitter with this prominent british-born isis fighter. and a u.s.-born al shabaab fighter in somalia, just a week

before the attack simpson tweeted a reference to the controversial event, when will they ever learn. hasan retweeted his tweet and said the brothers from the "charlie hebdo" attack did their part it's time for the brothers in the u.s. to do their part. according to court documents hasan traveled to somalia from minneapolis in 2008 to join the terror group al shabaab. and simpson also wanted to joy the jihad in somalia around the same time but it is not known whether simpson and hasan knew each other. >> this is something that the united states government has been focused on in both of these issues both in terms of foreign fighters as well as efforts that are underway by extremists including those inside isil to use social media to try to radicalize individuals and inspire them to carry out acts of violence. >> reporter: cnn is also learning that the guns who were -- that were used in the attack and also were found in

the vehicle according to an official with knowledge of the investigation those guns were purchased legally. back here in phoenix the officials who did scrub the apartment, well the apartment was relatively barren but there was a hard drive recovered. they're trying to get some material off of that michaela. >> kyung lah, thank you very much. the u.s. is willing to pay up to $20 million for high level isis targets. the state department announcing huge bounties for information leading to four isis commanders. cnn senior international correspondent nick paton walsh has the latest for us live from beirut. nick. >> reporter: michaela what we're seeing here of course is a bit of a window onto who the u.s. think are the more important isis leaders. we know they will offer $10 million if someone knows where al baghdadi isis leader is but there are four others now in the frame. $7 million for a man called al kaduli has links back to

afghanistan, pakistan and al qaeda in the very beginnings of 2004 and stayed with it during the iraqi insurgency. all that went onto become what we know as isis. two other names more public a man better known as omar the chechen, he's a key military leader who joined the syrian rebels early on and then became more and more extremist to join isis. $5 million if you know where he is. and $5 million if you know where isis spokesman is as well. he's a very public figure giving many of their statements. and a fourth lesser known for $3 million al harzi. this came out that al qaeda was somehow affiliated or responsibility. i think investigators want to be sure that there are links perhaps to these key leaders and any prior planning of that attack. no sign of that at this stage. there are so many isis fanboys out there on twitter, as they're known, exchanges messages you

talked about. back to you, alisyn. >> thanks nick. thanks for all of that background. we want to bring in phil mudd to talk about this. our cnn counterterrorism analyst and former cia counterterrorism official. phil great to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> one of the gunmen left a twitter trail a mile long. >> yeah. >> he was communicating with isis fighters and calling for violence and just sort of stewing with them online. so what do investigators do with that? >> one of the challenges you have here is not just to look backward but to look forward. you're looking at a case can i apply the knowledge i learn from this data to future cases to see if i can prevent this stuff. my answer too is i'm not sure that's going to work here. the numbers don't help you. 5,700 on average tweets per second going around the universe. and you want to look and sort through those and try to find the person who's not only angry, who's not only tweeting with isis but who might turn a

switch and become violent. i'm afraid what we're going to find here is not just a trail of tweets but a trail of frustration because you're going to say can i come up with a pattern of activity that allows me to sort through the other several thousand cases in the united states to apply the lessons learned. i'm not sure what the lesson is. there's a lot of angry people here and you can't tell which of them is going to switch overnight. >> one of the clues that's been unearthed by abc news and their investigative team is they found he was in constant communication with this mysterious isis recruiter, a guy who goes by the name of miski online. but he's also known as mohammad hasan. and that that's what we just saw in kyung lah's piece where that recruiter said to elton simpson, let me read it to you, where are the warriors of this community? because they were talking about the texas cartoon contest. so where are the warriors the brothers from the "charlie

hebdo" attack did their part that's instruction, right? >> on 911 that's a wholly owned al qaeda plot by what we at the cia call core al qaeda. trained, directed paid met with the 19 hijackers. if you go forward let's say to 2009 remember the underwear bomber. he met with the al qaeda affiliate in yemen. we go now to 2015 and we're talking about terror operations that are not wholly owned by al qaeda, not owned by an affiliate but just a conversation with a guy in iraq or syria who says look i don't need to meet you, i don't need to train you, but the universe of people out there who are interested should feel some obligation to attack. one more comment on this and that is we look at this as a failed attack. that is not how isis would look at it based on what you said. what they're trying to say is these two guys died in an effort to represent what they regard as the faith. if you don't get out and do the same thing, you should be ashamed that you don't have the

courage of your convictions. they're going to try to portray this not as a failure but as a success because they inspired people to act. >> but isn't it a failure? i mean it's a pretty spectacular failure. they got out of the car and they were shot dead. >> heck no, it's not a failure. >> phil, you don't see it as a failure either. just the fact they were inspired from thousands of miles away that means it's a success even though they weren't able to kill anyone. >> correct. i mean when i work at the agency i'm paid to look at the world through the eyes of the adversary. this is what the adversary thinks. if we can't -- if we want to inspire a global revolution we can't meet with pay, direct every person who might be part of this revolution. we need simply for them to get the kernel of an idea that leads them to act. if they fail that's okay because somebody one state over or five states over will sit back watch tv in their living room and say, you know, i've been thinking about this for six months and now i feel embarrassed because i don't have the courage to do what these guys did. the other thing i'd say about this is i always learned to

understand what the adversary thinks you might want to look at what they say. if isis were embarrassed by this they would not be out so prominently saying this is ours we own it despite the fact they probably didn't even know who these guys were. this from their eyes is a success because it could lead somebody else to act. >> okay. phillip mudd thank for that insight. great to talk to you. let's get to chris. we have more breaking news. this time out of germany. four suspects there arrested on terror charges. prosecutors say three men and a woman all german nationalist formed a right wing terrorist group called the old school society. baltimore's top cop speaking out to cnn in his first interview since freddie gray's death and making a rather surprising admission. >> there is a lack of trust within this community. period. bottom line. and that's going to take healing. that's going to take us acknowledging as a police department not just here in baltimore but law enforcement as a whole that we've been part of

the problem. >> commissioner anthony batts also says he was surprised six of his officers were charged in gray's death. in the meantime tuesday new attorney general loretta lynch met with police community and city leaders as well as meeting separately with gray's family in baltimore. wells fargo accused of opening accounts and credit cards in customers names without those customers permission. the alleged scheme was exposed when employees allegedly transferred money from customers' real accounts to pay fees on the fake ones. why would they do this? a civil complaint suggests to meet unrealistic sales goals and quotas. wells fargo says it will defend itself from this suit but did not deny those accusations. >> leave our money alone. all right. hillary clinton's in the news making a big announcement about her plans for immigration reform. she's calling out republicans. maybe this is the issue that wins her the white house. and inside the mysterious world of north korea, where does all that propaganda come from? the answer ahead.

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i will fight for comprehensive immigration reform and a path to citizenship for you and for your families across our country. i will fight to stop partisan attacks on the executive actions that would put dreamers including those with us today at risk of deportation. and if congress continues to

refuse to act, as president i would do everything possible under the law to go even further. >> wait a minute is that a real position she's talking about? hillary clinton finally putting something out there for voters to chew on. forget clintonian centerism, she's moving to the left of her own party suggesting a path to full and equal citizenship for the undocumented. >> here to weigh-in -- i'm actually confused. cnn political analyst and editor and chief of the daily beast john avlon and margaret hoover. >> am i the only one who speaks spanish here? >> the accent's a little rough, mr. cuomo? >> really? >> let's get to the heart of the matter which is she's gone further than any candidate, obviously, than even any politician prior to her. she's saying not just the dreamers their parents because she doesn't want to separate

them will be on a path to citizenship. >> and she's willing to do that through executive action which by the way president obama had said over 20 times would be unconstitutional before he decided he could find a way for it to be constitutional. what she has done here is moved the entire center of gravity on the immigration debate to the left. and i think what it does is first of all it's a win-win for her. it's great. it shores up the progressive left that always is concerned she's not going to be far left enough. it shores up the hispanics who came after her in 2008 not for president obama in the primaries. and it puts republicans in a position. secure borders first then get in the back of the line then pay your taxes, then go home if you've created any felonies or crimes. just makes the republicans -- for a pathway to citizenship look aggressive on hispanic issues. >> but what a shame. those in the middle who aren't sure what they want. this is a bigger portion issue.

is she sacrificing for gain on the left? these independents in the middle she may very well need to win? >> that's always the big question here. we have a pattern of bills that can appeal to the center beginning with george w. bush's bill followed up by lindsey graham's bill that he championed in the senate that marco rubio supported and then distanced himself from. and jeb bush's position. i don't think hillary can simply pull out an etch-a-sketch on this issue come the general. but she is flanking on the left. that's an important move even though there's an incredible primary challenge at this point. it is a smart political move. one could argue it's a smart policy move because even if she has a republican senate or house to deal with were she to be elected, all the sudden that bid increases the ante for some kind of a bill that republicans and democrats can live with. that all said this is all just poll tested rhetoric at this point. the policy page on our website is still m.i.a. the details matter enormously. >> margaret isn't it

interesting she learned something from the 2008 experience? because she was so vague and sort of floundering on this issue during one debate and now she's coming out and getting ahead of it. >> she has planted a flag. she learned her lesson. you don't have to have nuanced and detailed policy positions on your policy page of your website 555 days before the election. no need for it. barack obama didn't have it. but she is planting a flag. this is a serious policy position. she's essentially saying i mean this is not executive amnesty. she's for that on the executive orders but she's saying for comprehensive immigration reform starting with a pathway to citizenship. that is the 1986 reagan amnesty act. by the way -- >> are you calling her reaganesque. >> republicans hate that and now she's only going to shore up the haters that already hate her on the right. >> two practical questions, one, is this the right issue to put the flag in the sand on and say i'm all in on this.

and two, is comprehensive one big bill or law even a possibility? >> well look she's likely -- i don't want to fast forward too much. >> yes, you do. >> if she does win, it's quite likely she will also have a senate because the senate map in 2016 is actually the inverse of the 2014 senate map. you have a lot of blue state republicans. >> president obama had that he couldn't get one bill done. >> i think there's a difference to -- well i don't want to criticize the president too much for inability to be an effective legislator. but he hasn't actually had great luck legislating. >> the republicans are overwhelmingly likely to retain the house no matter what because of the rigged system of redistricting and the census isn't going to be taken for another four years after the next president is in place. this is a bold political move. it is a bold policy move. it makes a lot of sense in the context of the primary. but in the question will hillary clinton as she has promised in a lot of speeches find a way to work with people across the aisle. were she to become president or were she to become simply more

of a play to the base type figure head. which is what the dynamics of the democratic party are driving right now. >> first of all, this is all politics. she did this in nevada where obama and the politics totally outschooled her with hispanics. secondly democrats consistently need immigration as a wedge issue. they've had opportunities to cooperate with republicans, bush-kennedy in 2007. >> what have you heard to this point that's not just politics? >> but again, this is a wedge issue that democrats continue to use over republicans even when the most sincere republicans have wanted -- >> republicans have not been able to follow through -- >> let's end on this note and look at where her ratings are right now. her opinion ratings. this is the most recent cbs/"new york times" poll. and from march her favorability has gone up almost ten points to 35%. her unfavorable has stayed basically the same. undecided seems to have gone to the favorable category. >> that's the sound of hillary haters heads exploding. they thought they had a good month with clinton cash and with

a lot of attacks on her, but it doesn't seem to be sticking. >> there's a "the wall street journal" poll out shows her untrustworthiness or ability for people to trust her has actually gone down in the last month. there's a lot of numbers out there. >> that's a really mixed message. >> honestly these polls it depends on how you ask the question. you have to look at the cross tabs. >> not a bad poll for hillary clinton? >> no. >> thanks so much. great to see you guys. what's your take on all this? tweet us using #newdaycnn or post your comment on facebook.com/newday. michaela. ahead here six baltimore police officers are facing jail time for the death of freddie gray. the city's top prosecutor filing a range of charges including second-degree murder. why our next guest calls those charges incompetent at best. that's ahead. when broker chris hill stays at laquinta he fires up the free wifi with a network that's now up to 5 times faster than before! so he can rapidly prepare his presentation.

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independent investigation coupled with the medical examiner's determination that mr. gray's death was a homicide which we received today, has led us to believe that we have probable cause to file criminal charges. >> that's baltimore's state's attorney the prosecutor marilyn mosby wasting no time charging the officers arrested in the freddie gray case. but should she have taken more time? will these charges stand up? there are a lot of questions being asked. we have a guest who's asking them as well. paige kroiden, she spent 21 years with the baltimore state attorney's office most recently serving as deputy state's attorney. thank you very much for joining us. do you believe these charges will stand? >> well that is not my call to make. what i have criticized is the rush to place the charges in the first place. and i believe that that in and of itself places the charges in

jeopardy. i listened again to that clip that you just played in which the state's attorney said there was a thorough and comprehensive investigation. in my experience two weeks could not possibly provide enough time for a thorough and comprehensive investigation. and in that very same clip she said she got the autopsy report the same day she was announcing the charges. there was insufficient time to analyze that to consult with experts and to really connect that to the rest of the evidence. all indications are was that she was determined to charge as quickly as possible. and in my experience and judgment that can lead to false expectations as what might become with these charges if they were not the right charges to place in the first place. >> what's so complicated about this situation? you got a crushed larynx you got a broken spine. and you have the only thing that happened in freddie gray's life

that day was his altercation with police. if it was a civilian and not cops do you think you'd need a long time to charge somebody? >> oh yes. one thing that the state's attorneys office has not been able to explain and did not explain in their own probable cause statement is how his neck was broken. they don't address that at all. what they say is that some time in the van he wasn't wearing a seat belt and his neck was broken. that is a very crucial question. did the police know that his neck was broken? how was it broken? you know that is a crucial question. she seems to be charging them with not acting as opposed to breaking his neck. not acting could range the gamut from negligence which is not criminal, to what she says is depraved heart murder which is no evidence even in her own probable cause statement for depraved heart murder. the most that she seems to say in the probable cause statement

is gross negligence. so yes, there is a lot to be done leading up to placing charges. you need to talk to witnesses. you need to -- really should have brought them before the grand jury to put them under oath to lock in their testimony, to explore the issues. this is a much more complicated case. and of course it's also a very volatile case. what happens here in the courtroom is very important. and what i meant by false expectations there could be two such kinds of false expectations. one is she has set up the expectation that these officers are guilty and will be convicted. if that doesn't happen what could be the consequence? the other possible false expectation is if they are not convicted that somehow the justice justice system is unfair and perceived to be unfair in other jurisdictions. and maybe the unfairness wasn't in the criminal justice system. maybe it was working correctly, the unfairness was in the charges to begin with. you have to take your time.

that doesn't mean an unreasonable amount of time. doesn't mean take a year. but two weeks was an unreasonable amount of time to conclude that these were the correct charges. and we are already seeing problems. as i said depraved heart murder is not justified by our own probable cause statement. >> a probable cause statement just so the audience understands, that's a very low threshold statement. that doesn't mean it's everything that the prosecutor has, that doesn't mean what you're going to see as you move forward if there's an indictment or certainly when you get to trial. let's not put too much pressure on the probable cause statement. >> oh i completely disagree because these charges were brought by the prosecutor herself. and not only that you have to have probable cause to show depraved heart murder. that is not present in those documents. >> right. >> so you have to have probable cause to even put that -- no, you have to have probable cause to even put that charge on the charging document. >> understood. you need probable cause. but what i'm saying what you need to show to substantiate

probable cause isn't as high a burden as will come later on. but let me ask you something else miss croyden, you have very valuable insight here. your op-ed does a lot more than just say she should have taken more time. you say you're thinking of moving. you're saying cops should think about whether or not to do their job. those are very heavy charges. do you really believe that baltimore may blow up as a result of this? >> that's not what i was saying. what i was saying is that one of the things that the state's attorney -- it's not my office anymore, it's my ex-office. but one of the things the state's attorney has done is something that's very new here. and that is that she has decided to charge arresting officers for not having probable cause to arrest. now, leave aside the fact that it looks like they did. that's one of the problems with the haste that's happened here. but let's leave aside that. charging officers for not having probable cause to arrest usually

what happens is they are civilly liable and can be sued. she is saying they can be locked up for false imprisonment and arrest. now, she may possibly have been guilty of the same thing herself by charging and arresting those officers without probable cause. >> right. i don't mean right. i'm not agreeing with you. i get that point. it is a point. >> so let me continue with the point. if the officers cannot -- if the officers are subject to criminal charges, if they make a mistake in their arrest either they were under duress and they acted -- they made a mistake, or they didn't know the law because they were improperly trained. as opposed to lying about probable cause, planting evidence or making things up if they are mistaken she is setting the precedent that they could go to jail. that is the point i was trying to address in my piece. that is a very -- that is a

chill on the police department. and if i were a police officer i could not work under those circumstances. >> right. >> that's the point i was making. >> that is one reading of the situation what the state's attorney has said is that she's charging because they didn't have a reason to arrest freddie gray. and they arrested him anyway. but we'll have to see how it plays off. and in your op-ed we direct people to it on the baltimore sun. you know you said if you were a police officer i'd be looking for another job immediately and as a baltimore citizen i may start looking for some place else to live. pretty inflammatory language. thank you for joining us. appreciate your perspective on "new day." alisyn. okay chris. well north korea denies any charges of human rights violations. they insist accusations by the west are nothing but lies. so we take you inside the rogue nation to see how its leaders have mastered the art of denial.

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slander and lies that's what north korea calls charges against it from the outside world. the mass executions never happened they say. labor camps, they say they do not exist. cnn's will ripley live from

pyongyang with an exclusive look into how the regime makes its implausible claims. will. >> reporter: michaela normally north korea releases its statements not interviews that's how the propaganda machine works here. this is the firgs time in many years we've spoke ton a high level official. and we asked first and foremost about the reports that the supreme leader kim jong-un or the executions of 15 high-level officials just this year this official tells us those reports are baseless and groundless. but he also says it's not unusual for countries to execute people who go against the government. other topics we discussed, north korea's nuclear arsenal. we asked if the reports are true that the country has 20 nuclear devices and the capability to double that number in the very near future. he replied north korea does have nuclear weapons. he also pointed out that the country he says has a ballistic missile capable of reaching the mainland united states. we also asked about that united nations report alleging widespread human rights abuses at the country's labor camps,

murder executions torture. he denied those reports. he said north korea does have prison camps for criminals, but he says they don't put any political dissidents in there. and he then pointed back at the united states mentioning the incidence of violence against african-americans. alisyn. >> will, thanks so much for that stunning report. well storms are expected in the heartland today. let's get right to meteorologist chad myers with all of the forecast. what are you seeing, chad? >> alisyn you put me on your show and things are about to get real. big storms in oklahoma and texas. there they are right now. they will redevelop back out here in the plains and move right back into the same areas. oklahoma city dallas all the way up into parts of wichita, kansas as well. there's the weather for today. and it doesn't move for the next three days. weather in the same spots, severe weather, probably a lot of chasers out there again today. you need to be very careful. noaa radio on a pickup truck does not make you a storm chaser. watch out today. there will be storms firing up today, tomorrow saturday and even into sunday. one more thing off the east

coast, not the first named storm but the first tropicalish system of the year. nothing there going on yet. but it could make a rough surf kind of weekend for parts of the carolinas and for florida. if you like that kind of thing, could be a lot of fun. if you don't, please stay out of the water. rip currents will be all over the place, chris. >> tropicalish. >>ish. not yet. it's not there yet. take some time to get there. >> very sciencey. >> he's on fire today. he said things are about to get real. it was impressive. i lost it. it was shocking to me. >> you shocked us chad. good for you. another shocking thing, this attempted ambush at a prophet muhammad cartoon event in texas. now we have this debate over the limits of free speech. is this really about the right to say things or is it about whether or not it is right to say things? the debate ahead.

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you know in the wake of the "charlie hebdo" slaughter, the

media across europe ran the cartoons and it was yeah sweet charlie. >> that is pamela geller commenting on that shooting outside a contest she hosted in texas which featured drawings of the prophet muhammad. now, geller says she feels that she's being attacked for holding the event, which she argues is just about free speech. let's talk more about this with cnn political commentator ben ferguson. and marc la mont hill. and i'll start with you, mr. ferguson. is this a red herring that this is about the first amendment and free speech? who's saying pamela geller didn't have the right to hold this event? isn't it about the quality of the message and what the impact is of the message? not her right to say it. >> well i think it's a little bit of both. and there are a lot of people that say, hey, you shouldn't do this because you're inciting other people. the fact is if we start limiting people that we disagree with or blaming those that are exercising free speech for the

attacks, we're not the free country that we claim that we are that people literally try to sneak in to every single day because this country is so free. and there are people that say and do things that i don't like. there are things that people say all the time that other people don't like. but in america we allow them to have the right. and we also protect the right for them to exercise this. so when you saw this attack happened there was a lot of people saying well she should have known better. well she incited this. when did we become a place where we actually go after the person exercising free speech instead of the terrorists that came to silence her and others? i think that's something that's very concerning. >> i don't know anyone and ben and i have been in different circles and i don't know anyone who's made the argument that says she doesn't have the right to say it. people like i know myself yeah you have a right to say it. i don't think it rises to the legal level of inciting anything. i think the question is why do you want to do this?

it seemed like they were generally saying we're going to have an event for the sole purpose of ticking off muslims for sowing islam phobic. and one of the keynote speakers is from the netherlands and he's advocating getting rid of the quran in the country. so he's not even a first amendment addvocateadvocate. the sad thing for me is two sort of outliers in the islamic community came in and gave them what they were looking for. i think they were looking to make an example. >> this conference you have to put it in context. in january you had a pro-muslim conference which was really an anti-american conference. you had multiple speakers in the same place that came in who actually celebrated the attacks on this country on 9/11. they also said that the attacks against american soldiers were justified in the middle east. and so that's why you had this event in the first place. she said if you're going to come in and recruit the next boston bomber or try to find the next

lone wolf which many people by the way at that conference in january thought that was nothing more than a let's find the next american extremist who might want to be the next lone wolf. when you have speakers like that so you have a response to it. that's why they had this. there wasn't many people -- >> ben, you're making the case that this was a tit-for-tat. you said put it in context. they came here the muslims, and they said all this anti-american stuff, so they then had this event. that suggests they had this to counter what they didn't like about that event which is why it had such a tenor of islam phobia phobia. >> that's what makes it irresponsible to me. >> the thing was is when she had the conference the main point she was making is we will not back down. after "charlie hebdo," after the attacks there in america, we're not going to limit the free speech of people that do it.

>> of the prophet muhammad? >> i'm not saying it was a smart event. i'm saying though that in this country the fact that we're allowed to have these events is what makes this country -- >> absolutely. but here's the criticism on your side is that the left is afraid of saying anything offensive about islam. you don't feel like that about christianity. you attack the catholic church all the time. >> i think that's different. >> well religion for religion. >> how is it different? >> here's how it's different. i don't accept the terms of what you're suggesting. >> you reject my premise. >> i do. you say the catholic church is x, that's a critical analysis. if you say islam has some issues with patriarch or sexuality, i think that's also appropriate. but drawing the prophet muhammad for the sole purpose -- >> but you wouldn't punish

somebody for -- >> i think, again, context matters. first of all -- >> it's political correctness. >> the media would. you would say this is really upsetting a lot of people it's jesus made of meat and you would do it. >> that's an amazing critique of the media and you were saying it was a critique of the left. >> i think that very often the left bleeds into the -- >> yeah, even if i conceded media were more left wing -- >> i'm saying does islam get a favoritism? >> yes. >> you think islam gets a favoritism? absolutely not. muslim seen as more violent, less civilized, more prone to terrorism. >> you see that as being baseless? >> yes. as being less civilized -- >> who has attacked america in this country and he's going to use it as an example. ben. >> the prime example is what you literally just said. there is no other religion that gets the protections that we've recently given islam in this country to be politically

correct. >> those five prayers in school we have. >> marc listen to what i'm actually saying. the fact that we have people that won't even show the cartoons any other religion that is criticized mocked whether it be the catholic church the jokes on "saturday night live" that came out against basically every priest when you had the sex scandal, the fact you had horrible depictions of jesus christ with what we just referred to the fact you have plays on broadway that mock religions, they don't have to get any other security for that. >> let's end it there. that's the point we were making. >> you're both still wrong. >> that's fine. but the point of a good debate is this, i no longer know how i feel but i know you all feel i'm wrong. a big story this morning, but there's a lot of breaking news. so let's get to it. the co-pilot who crashed germanwings flight 9525 into the french alps rehearsed his suicide mission during that

flight. >> there were several changes of altitude. >> an attempted terrorist attack was foiled. >> this was the call of isis, pick up a weapon and do whatever you can do. >> whoever he was with talked him into it. >> the d.a.'s office absolutely has no trust whatsoever with the police commissioner or its department. >> i can say i was probably surprised by the information that i heard. >> baltimore's come to symbolize a lot of the issues involving police and community mistrust. good morning everyone. welcome to our viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. you're watching "new day." and we do begin with breaking news this morning. a new investigative report is out on the crash of germanwings flight and it contains some bombshell findings. first, the co-pilot who crashed flight 9525 into the french alps rehearsed his suicide mission earlier that same day. >> the report also says that the co-pilot reset the autopilot to just 100 feet five different

times on his practice run. that's raising questions. so let's get right to cnn senior international correspondent frederik pleitgen live in london with these details. what do we know fred? >> reporter: well chris, we know that when we speak about rehearsal in all of this that the scenario that he did this in in the outbound flight this is the flight before the doomed flight the situation he was in was exactly the same as it later was on that doomed flight. he waited for the captain to leave the cockpit. and i have this initial report in front of me right now. and it says seven hours and 19 minutes there is the noise of the cockpit door opening then closing. and this means the captain has left the cockpit. then we get to the really interesting part. it says that at seven hours, 20 minutes and 50 seconds the selected altitude decreased to 100 feet for three seconds and then increased to the maximum value of 49,000 feet and stabilized again at 35,000 feet. so a major dip in altitude for a

very short time followed again by a major spike in altitude. and then leveling out, which is of course one of the things that leads the investigators to believe that very possibly this was a significant event later in the doomed flight. and then they come to the conclusion, these are the initial findings of this report they say several altitude selections towards 100 feet were recorded during descent on the flight that preceded the flight while the co-pilot was alone in the cockpit. it looks very, very much like a practice run. and all of this raises major questions about the thing we've been talking about since all of this happened how premeditated was all this how meticulously planned was all this. we have to keep in mind this was a man with psychological problems trying to cover them up and a man who looked up ways to commit suicide and this is a man who also looked up the locking mechanism of the cockpit door preceding all this.

it seems as though there was a lot more planning that went into this than we've previously known, guys. >> fred if you stick around with us that would be great because we also want to bring in cnn's aviation analyst miles o'brien. miles, is there any other way to interpret this? all of the facts fred just gave us about what the altitude monitor was showing, how else can you see it and this was a dry run? >> it was a dry run, there's no question alisyn. the captain leaves the cockpit and the co-pilot spends a lot of time playing with the selection knob on the autopilot for altitude. we want to clarify that the altitude was not changing in the way the selection was indicated. it was still going down in a steady state. air traffic controllers and of course the captain in the back of the plane would have noticed if the plane would be dipping and flying in such a manner. but on the airbus you have a computer system that tends to overrule what the pilot wants to do if it's outside the boundaries of acceptability for

the aircraft and safety. and so this would be a good way to test to where the alarm bells might go off so you can set the selection for the intent which of course we all know what happened. >> but, miles, i want to stick with that for a sec. so if this computer system overrules something that's an anomaly, why wasn't it triggering? >> well i think he was trying to figure out the outer bounds of what the computer would allow using the laws of flight that were in play. so you know if you make it too steep or too fast, the computer would overrule him. he was trying to see if i set it for 100 feet and it's a descent of a certain rate will it allow me to do that? and i think that's what he discovered in that brief dry run. >> fred can we pull up that full screen you just showed us? the one that showed what was happening at 7 hours, 20 minutes, 50 seconds. and that showed right there we have it on our screen now the selected altitude decreased to

100 feet for three seconds. again, as miles said the plane didn't decrease to that but the selection decreased to that. and then it increased to the maximum value of 49,000 feet and it stabilized again at 35,000 feet. surely that would have set off some sort of alarm bells, not literally, but some sort of notice by the air traffic controllers. do we have any sense -- i know this report came out in the last hour do we have any comment from them yet? >> that's a really interesting question. because of course what miles is talking about was him basically trying to trick the airplane and seeing what the airplane would allow him to do. but the big question is would air traffic control have noticed? and the interesting part about all this is that all of this occurred as we said while the pilot was -- while the captain was not in the cockpit. but also during the time that apparently the plane was already going into its final descent. shortly before bringing the plane down he was already asked to descend from 37,000 feet to 35,000 feet. and during the time that he kept

resetting the altitude to 100 feet was also a time that he was already bringing the airplane down to i think it was 25,000 feet that the air traffic controllers let him go to. there's no indication in reports that during the preceding flight that this raised any sort of alarm bells with air traffic control. it's very hard to say whether or not they noticed, whether or not they had the technical capabilities to notice the dips that were going on. again, we have to keep in mind and i'm sure miles can speak more to this is that a lot of these altitude changes he was doing, the ones that seem really irrational ones that go from 100 feet to 49,000 feet they only happen for a couple of seconds. the first dip to 100 feet where he set it to 100 feet was only for three seconds. the question is was he trying to find ways to fool air traffic control as well? or at least try to keep them off his back for as long as possible? >> so miles, would air traffic controllers noticed something was amiss? >> no. because what you see here is the selection button doing this and

the plane doing a steady descent. and in the term of aviation is busted altitude. they didn't bust altitude. they did exactly what controllers said for them to do the aircraft performed exactly. and on the radar screen the controller would have no idea that he was monkeying around with the knob in this manner. so it didn't change the rate of descent or the actual floor of where the plane went. what it would have done is given someone who is doing it some indication as to whether the airbus would have disengaged the autopilot and alarm system would have overruled or some other system and the plane would have overruled what the pilot was doing. >> well, that's helpful, miles. in other words that explains why he was then allowed to get on another flight and pilot that flight because otherwise would they have prevented him from getting back on board? >> this would have been a big incident if there had been a divergence of altitude that matched the selection on the

autopilot. that would have been a big deal. we would have been talking about it regardless of the crash how could that have happened. and certainly he would have been pulled off the line. >> all right. miles, fred thanks so much. we'll be analyzing much more in this bombshell report that's just come out this morning. thanks so much. let's get over to michaela. all right. to sunday's attack outside a cartoon contest in texas now. is there a broader plot to uncover? that's the question for intelligence officials following revelations one of the gunmen was in contact with an isis recruiter and a terrorist from al shabaab. we get the latest now from cnn's kyung lah live in the gunmen's hometown of phoenix, arizona. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, michaela. the investigation now trying to focus on the accomplices trying to widen this dragnet. what we have learned from investigators here is that the apartment was relatively barren. the apartment complex behind me that the two men lived in. there was a hard drive recovered, and they are analyzing that hard drive. but the investigators already know that one of the gunmen elton simpson, was in

communication with a known isis fighter, that recruiter you were mentioning. he was having public exchanges on twitter. that isis fighter retweeting one of simpson's tweets. the focus now is looking at social media. how close were these two men? at this point investigators believe that it may be shy of being directed that the two men may not have been directed but certainly they were more than just inspired. chris. >> kyung, thanks for digging. let's bring in former chair of the u.s. house intelligence committee mr. mike rodgers mike thank you for joining us. we want to know whether or not they were connected, but does it really matter? inspired versus directed the end result is the same no? >> absolutely. and this is exactly what isis has been trying to do with its public statements with its social media networks by trying to push both individuals to do it on their own and individuals to have conversations with them to do these types of terrorist

attacks. >> now, the idea that isis takes credit for something that looks like an abject failure, looks like a success of great police work taking these guys out before they could do anything. but what does that mean about what they consider success? >> absolutely. any disruptive act, chris, i mean any disruptive act, if it's a mall that shuts down commerce if it's an event like this that draws all of this attention and they did wound a security officer, puts a little fear in the hearts and souls of people all over the country, this is a place in texas. i think that's exactly what they're trying to accomplish. so they'd like to have more deaths and casualties for the chaos and the marketing, but this is just fine for them. and it shows it gives them credibility with other jihadists that their activities are just about the sacrilegious effort of protecting the prophet muhammad. that is in addition of gain for them when they're trying to recruit people to jihad. >> common concern would be is this proof that we are not good

enough at catching bad guys before they act? >> it is really difficult. it's very difficult. and, you know the patriot act is getting ready to come up here. and the discussion is not even to allow people to track those phone calls coming from overseas into the united states. so we're making it more difficult for law enforcement to try to catch these people and follow these types of communications. that's really very concerning. it's very, very difficult. if they decide to self-radicalize, if they're engaged in the social media provided by isis you can't track it all. it's against the law to track it all and it probably should be. but at some point you have these events that are not impossible but pretty darn tough. >> now, at the same time we have these guys who look like they slipped through, right? because one of them you were monitoring you had a case against them you couldn't make. the other headline this morning, u.s. issues bounty on four isis high-valued targets. what's that about? >> you know there's a program through the justice department

and the state department where they put out bounties for information leading to the -- either the arrest or taking them off the battlefield. had some great success in iraq. most of the money that was spent in this program some $100 million over the last decade went to cases in iraq. it has had good opportunity to catch some folks and it has kind of mixed results in its success. but what it does is sends a very clear signal. and i think this is important. that we take their leadership of isis seriously and we're going to offer people who are disgruntled the opportunity to do something about it. it didn't work with al qaeda senior leadership so well. it might work with isis but it sends a very clear signal that we're not going to let you go unfeddered in this particular terrorist operation you're running in syria. >> in america we understand the threat. it is painfully obvious. the question is how we deal with that as a combination culture, muslim christian, jew, atheist,

what do you see in the texas situation in terms of this question about what is the right thing to do towards muslims and what isn't? some people are saying it's a first amendment issue. i'm not so sure about that. but what is the line about how much you do what islam doesn't like you to do? >> yeah you know this is that time problem in a society that appreciates our freedom of speech. and, you know some would argue did this go over the line. we have this debate every day outside of religious circles on people's lifestyles and other things. when should it end? when does it start? you know the standard for my family when my mother used to say, your freedom of speech ends at the end of your fist touching the beginning of my nose. pretty good standard to live by. if people are going to want to have this kind of expression i don't think you ought to go out of your way to agitate folks, but having discussions about how you might disagree with their particular tenants of their religion is clearly covered

under the first amendment freedom and protection. >> absolutely. but even the pope said you talk about my mother i'll punch you in the face. but it is interesting though the garland, texas thing has brought up this american sentiment that you know this islamophobia is very real in this country and something we have to negotiate. mike rogers thank you as always. mic. baltimore's top cop speaking out to cnn in his first interview since freddie gray's death and making a rather surprising admission. >> there is a lack of trust within this community. period. bottom line. and that's going to take healing. that's going to take us acknowledging as a police department not just here in baltimore, but law enforcement as a whole that we've been part of the problem. >> commissioner anthony batts also says he was surprised that six of his officers were charged in gray's death. in the meantime tuesday new attorney general loretta lynch met with police community and city leaders as well as separately meeting with gray's family in baltimore. another thaw between the u.s. and cuba ferry service

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attorney general loretta lynch barely in office a week already on the ground now in baltimore trying to get hands on there. she spent hours meeting with officials, community leaders and politicians on the local and national level tuesday hoping to find a way forward for the city. the issues are real. the solutions matter just as much. so let's talk about whether or not it's heading the right way

with congressman elijah cummings a native of baltimore, represents the city met with attorney general loretta lynch, was on the streets keeping people calm. the community appreciated it and so did we. good to have you with us congressman. let's get right to the criticism that's coming up about these charges. mosby went too fast. she wanted to please the people not lady justice. and now you got names wrong and the probable cause, you got charges that may not stick. do you feel the criticism is justified? >> no i don't feel it's justified. she is the state's attorney. and she made a decision based upon her own investigation and that of the baltimore city police department. look chris, i practiced criminal law for years. and you're going to always have criticism of a prosecutor. that's just the way it is. but, again, i believe in her. she's an outstanding attorney. the impeccable integrity. and i think she made the decision that was in her best judgment.

and i trust her judgment. and, i mean we're in the beginning stages chris, of this situation. and we'll see how it goes. >> the name's wrong, what do you make of that? and the false imprisonment charge of course you understand but for the audience it's basically saying you guys didn't get it right and i'm charging you as criminals. is that going to have a chilling effect on police officers? those two issues. >> i would hope not. the thing that we got to keep in mind is that we have a young man, freddie gray, that is dead. seems like sometimes we take our focus off of that. and he was a young man that was otherwise healthy before he came in contact with the police. and so i think that we have to let the justice system work the way the justice system is supposed to work. and i'm sure that again, all of this will now be in the public stage -- on the public stage.

and all will be able to see and hear what exactly happened. and the jury at some point will i'm sure come back with a fair and just verdict. >> the reports though about the names being wrong and that maybe the knife did qualify as illegal, does that give you pause for concern, congressman? >> not at all because, again, having practiced criminal law, chris, i'm telling you, i would look for every single to determine whether every i is dotted and every t is crossed as a defense attorney i'm looking for anything i can get my hands onto try to take away any kind of momentum that a prosecutor might have. that's the way our criminal system operates. and so i trust the system. i trust our prosecutor. and i trust what she's done. and i know she's going to give it her best. again, if the aufrgss are found not guilty so be it. but this is the process that we

go through. people in my neighborhood go through this process every day. >> we know that people on the streets in those communities, a big pushback from them on the streets where you grew up where, hey, if they were one of us it wouldn't have taken a week and a half. they would have charged us right away. that goes to the feelings of it not being a fair system. that's why justice is so porpt important in this matter. are you having any luck with pushing the issues in the community. obviously they're angry about freddie gray and some issues of policing but not having the jobs not having the education, those retractable problems is this a window of opportunity for you to go back to the brothers and sisters in washington and say help there and we'll have less of what we're dealing with with freddie gray? >> without a doubt, chris. i've said it before. the death, the tragic death of freddie gray happened in a moment. and now it must lead to a movement that changed the lives of so many. i've got to tell you, chris,

over the last few days i've been going to nonstop meetings telephone calls coming from private foundations, corporations government officials wanting to make sure that we address the issues of education, job training criminal justice reform sentencing reform a health reform things that go to the bottom line of healing a community and allowing everybody to be a part of what we call the inclusion revolution. and so without a doubt we are at that moment but we've got to take advantage of that moment chris. because if we don't it will pass by. and we'll be talking about these things five years from now only they will be worse. so, again, i know the mayor is working 24/7. i talked to her three or four times yesterday. i know she's meeting with various philanthropic organizations, our universities here in maryland and talking to governor hogan and the congress.

and i'm calling on speaker boehner to help us out in trying to resolve some of these issues. >> you know on the people there in that community a lot of them are pointing fingers at republicans and saying they don't want to help us they don't want to help us. baltimore's been run by democrats and recently african-american democrats for a really long time. it's not really about republicans. i mean the democrats, you've had your people in there, congressman cummings. you guys are as responsible for what has and hasn't been done as anybody else isn't that fair? >> chris, come on chris. you know it's not about personalities. it's about policy. and you know and i know that a lot of the policies coming down from washington coming down from the state actually too. but coming from washington are not necessarily kind to urban areas. so yeah lately you keep in mind that freddie gray had a serious problem with lead poisoning. and we just found out that that

budget has been cut 33%. the neighborhoods budget figure has been cut some 70%. so come on. but not only that as i said you got to have money to do a lot of these things. so hopefully people will wake up and understand that this inclusion revolution is so important because it's good for all of us. all of us need to do well. we can't have our children being blocked from opportunity. what are they going to do? >> understood. >> so again, i'm excited. and i know that we're going to make a big difference here. >> i heard those people calling out to you, congressman cummings to do the good fight and we know you'll stay on it. thank you for having you on the show. >> good to have you in baltimore. >> we'll be back. mic. hillary clinton making a big announcement about her plans for immigration reform. could this be the issue that

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news this morning. a preliminary report out just hours ago find that the co-pilot who crashed flight 9525 into the french alps rehearsed his suicide mission. the b.e.a. report finds the co-pilot tried dropping altitude on the outbound flight from dusseldorf to barcelona. the report says that co-pilot set the autopilot to 100 feet five separate times while he was alone in the cockpit. one of the men who opened fire outside a muhammad cartoon contest in texas did communicate with two known terrorists one from al shabaab, the other from isis which claimed responsibility for the attack. although it is still unclear whether the group actually ordered it directly. intelligence officials are combing through evidence from the phoenix home of the two gunmen. quite a story here. workers at a pizza hut in avon park florida, never saw an order like this. it read one small hand tossed pizza with pepperoni and call 911. turns out a woman being held hostage by her boyfriend used the pizza hut cell phone app to

send a signal for help. so the restaurant called police. they went to the address on the order and arrested her 26-year-old boyfriend. the woman and her three children are safe. my goodness. >> wow. thank goodness they took it seriously. there are so many pranks called into pizza places. >> i know. >> thank goodness they took it seriously. >> i love it. one more good thing about pizza. >> good point. >> one more reason to order it. let's get to inside politics now with john king. >> good morning to you as well. a very busy day in politics. we're going to start with a brand new poll in iowa of the republican presidential contenders and with me to share reporting, julie, ron. look at this brand new poll in iowa scott walker at the top of the pack 21% the quinnipiac poll rand paul at 13%, mike huckabee 11%. we get into the single digits a guy named jeb bush down there at 5% when you look at this. now, there is no overwhelming front-runner.

you'd have to say scott walker is the leader. i don't know if we'd call him the front-runner in iowa right now, but jeb bush down from the last poll. does he have a problem here? >> yeah. in iowa. look first of all, you have to understand that the republican party in iowa has really moved to the right. a guy steve sheffler is now considered to be a rhino in the republican party in iowa. look at the people who say they would not vote for a candidate, 10% would not vote for rand paul he really irritated some people his dad did in the republican party. 20% won't vote for chris christie under any circumstances. 25% in iowa republicans are saying they won't vote for jeb bush under any condition. that's a big problem. >> what they're getting is they're getting, you know through whether it's their e-mails, twitter, facebooks, conservative blogs they log onto you have a much more organized right saying we don't like jeb bush on common core education, we don't like jeb bush on immigration, he's said

path to citizenship and now said maybe legal status. here's the issue for jeb bush. if he can't win iowa new hampshire has never been kind ot bush family. his dad got beat by pat buchanan there. his brother got beat by john mccain there. what happens? >> jeb bush has to basically make a decision. this is a decision that other candidates in the republican field have faced before. does he essentially give up on iowa and turn his attention fully to new hampshire? it's risky because you never know what's going to happen in iowa and who's going to come out of that with momentum to allow them to continue to play down the line. and putting all of your chips on one state and saying you know if i can win new hampshire i can continue on is very risky. we've seen candidates do this in the past. >> but if the central tenant of your candidacy or one is i love my party but we're wrong on a couple issues the base is wrong on a couple issues don't you have to make an argument in the place where the party has drifted to the right and take your chances and try to convince those voters we want to take the white house back we want to be a national political party again

at the presidential level we need to change our way. >> it's not about convincing all iowa voters it's about showing you have a sense of authenticity which you can then throw up against hillary clinton. it's to make yourself part of the conversation while everyone else is focused on iowa so you're still standing in new hampshire, south carolina. remember it's not like it's going to dry up on him. >> he'll have the money. we could well have a long protracted republican race like we did on the democratic side. hillary clinton is the far away front-runner. we'll back that up in a minute. she's in nevada yesterday and she knows it she wants to keep the obama coalition together. she knows the more she talks about immigration the more likely to remind republicans and stoke the debate within the republican party. listen. >> we can't wait any longer for a path to full and equal citizenship. now, this is where i differ with everybody on the republican party side. make no mistakes today not a

single republican candidate announced or potential is clearly and consistently supporting a path to citizenship. not one. when they talk about legal status that is code for second class status. >> like her or not that's smart politics and number one it stokes the republican fight. number two sitting in nevada used to be a swing state, new mexico used to be a swing state and moving democratic the last couple cycles. we could go on and on. if the latino population is growing in your state, in presidential politics it's turning blue. >> hillary laid down a tough marker there. she was toot the left of president obama on this saying she suggested she would be willing to do that through executive actions. when she's talking about the republican field, the person she's really talking about there is jeb bush because jeb bush has talked about how he would be willing to look for legal status for people who are in this country illegally, but he has

not talked as clearly about citizenship. she's saying she would go that far. >> i agree. it's smart politics. i also think personally it's the right thing to do. she's on the right side of the history. can't do what the republicans want to do on immigration, this country's changing too much. i do want to look beyond the election though and i wonder what is it about her past what it is about her current positions, what is it about her makeup as a person that if she did become president she would actually get this done. obama wasn't able to get it done. what could she do differently as a leader? >> i think that's part of the case whoever the nominee is on either side's going to have to make to the american people after years and years of dysfunction in a broken washington how will i be different, can i be different. still going to have an evenly divided congress. let's look at interesting poll numbers. here's the new granite state poll this morning hillary clinton is far and away the front runner. 51% in hn nn elizabeth warren is not running, she's at 20%. an drew cuomo at 3%. joe biden has fallen even more to 2%.

i think most democrats are processed she's in he's not going to run. i don't think that's anti-joe biden, just a reflection he's unlikely to run. she's far and away the front runner in new hampshire. we'll watch to see if those numbers change watch bernie sanders, the guys running at the moment and governor o'malley as well. here's what gets me. this is proof that hillary clinton is unlike anybody else in this race because she's been with us so long and people think they know her so well. and number two, polls are interesting, polls are helpful, but depending on how you ask a question even a slight change in a question gets a different answer. here's a new poll out this morning is hillary clinton honest and trustworthy. 48% say yes, 45% say no. that's not great. that's an evenly divided country, but in an evenly divided political country that's about what you might expect. nbc/"the wall street journal" asked this way, is hillary clinton honest and straightforward? a little different in the question there. we've talked about the private e-mail server we've been talking about the clinton foundation do nations.

only 25% rate her as good or very good on honest and straightforward. about half who say she's honest and trustworthy if you compare the other poll. >> i'm struck by the fact you have clinton loyalists bragging about the poll and say, okay they've won. gotten past the scandal. i think reporters and pundits need to keep two questions in mind when you're looking at a troefrs like this. one what is the effect on the campaign and what poll you're looking at. good debate to have. but also what does it reflect about the candidate as a potential leader? going back to my previous point. if you ask that question clearly we're seeing a candidate who right now is not showing us transparency accountability or high level of ethical standards. those are things we should be factoring in as well. especially reporters. we shouldn't look at this as you know the polls go her way that doesn't necessarily mean we should stop reporting on it. and the clinton people certainly shouldn't take any solace because they haven't gotten

beyond the fundamental questions of leadership. >> i think it's interesting when you look at the numbers and compare them side by side even though perhaps half of voters don't think she's some combination of honest, trustworthy trustworthy, straightforward, she is still far and away the democratic choice in this primary season. there is no indication that elizabeth warren joe biden, anyone else is going to seriously challenge her. the party is all in regardless of honesty and trustworthiness. it's kind of a sad situation actually. >> well it's an interesting situation. number one, she's a unique candidate. she's been with us so long. and alisyn as we get back to you in new york i think if she has the resources, doesn't have a competitive challenger right now. they're going to spend a lot of dimes looking at that 25% who view her as honest and straightforward and shore her up. that's the equivalent of a five-alarm fire. >> thanks for that insight, john. stick around because we have a special segment coming up. the widow "american sniper" chris kyle will open about the

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the best selling book and blockbuster film "american sniper" centered on the life of navy s.e.a.l.s. sniper chris kyle. for the very first time his widow is taking the world inside their marriage and how she grieved his death in a new memoir entitled american wife memoir of love war, faith and renewal. taya kyle joins us now. what a pleasure to meet you. your strength has impressed so many me included. we know the story well. we've watched it on film with bradley cooper. >> right. >> we've seen the book that your husband wrote. but this is your story. >> right. >> this is your vision. this is your view of the world according to you and kyle. >> right. >> you go very intimately into that world. was that a hard thing to do? and why did you decide to do that? >> i think it is hard in some ways because it leaves you very vulnerable. but the other side of that coin is that why do it if you're not going to be raw and really share

your story? i think the healing comes from people being able to relate enough so that they can look at the story and see components of their own life in it and also see it from just one step removed, you know from an outsiders perspective. >> did you do it for healing, taya? >> no i did not do it for healing. i found i was almost surprised when i would talk to the co-author of the book when i would talk to him sometimes it would be so emotional and heart wrenching and i would get off the phone and feel like maybe a little bit of a weight had been lifted. so i think sometimes knowing that you're preserving a memory allows you to not walk around obsessively carrying it too. >> yeah. it does. it lightens your load. we know for chris writing his book his memoir he wrote with the same co-writer, it actually scratched the wound. it opened the wound again. >> right. >> did it do that for you? >> it did for "american sniper" id it did, for both of us it was

not therapeutic, just painful, right. but for american wife it was just a mix. and i was in the middle of such a, you know difficult time obviously of grieving and then also different business issues and different things with the kids. and it just i think it forced me to deal with things sometimes too. >> yeah. >> which is probably good and hard. >> grief is such a strange thing. it has its own timing. there's no sort of manual for it. >> it does. right. >> we all do it differently. forgive me for asking but i want to take you back to the day that you found out chris was dead the day he died. you had probably prepared yourself for the eventuality or possibility that he could die overseas serving our country. >> right. >> the idea of him dying at home in such a horrible way never had occurred to you. >> no. and, you know, i think one of the things i'm painfully aware that people die every day for various reasons. i think the most horrifying thing is that he was murdered

and his friend was murdered when they were trying to help somebody. the person they were trying to help turns a gun on them in a way they don't even see it coming. that to me was what was most shocking and horrifying and it's the hardest thing to get my head around. >> well you've had so many chances to have to do that. you've sat through two trials now, the defamation lawsuit against -- from jesse ventura against chris's estate and eddie ray roth's murder trial. that is losing out loud in the most painfully obvious way. what did you do to get through those times? >> i think the best thing that's helped me through all of these different things are my friends that are very warm and supportive. and, you know they don't have an opinion on how i should do things. they just kind of got your back. and family certainly. and for me my faith is -- >> i see the cross on your chest. >> right. it is the reason that i'm okay.

and i believe that god puts people in your path too that will help you and provide whatever it is that you need. because it's ever changing. and like you said you can't predict what you're going to need in those times because i've never been through those things before. >> has justice been served do you believe? >> with the murder trial i think absolutely. i feel like those people on the jury had a really difficult job, honestly to differentiate and to try to listen to things that really are heart wrenching. but, yeah absolutely. they got it right. and the prosecution, they're topnotch. i'm telling you, those lawyers -- only because, yes, they had a good case but they dotted every i, crossed every t, left no stone unturned. really did just a good job. >> taya kyle your book is going to inspire so many. >> oh thank you for that. >> and help many through a difficult time grieving their own loss. thank you so much for sharing with us and the world and thanks for visiting us on "new day." >> thank you for having me. >> chris. all right, mic, another story to watch, wells fargo is

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the co-pilot that crashed flight 9525 rehearsed the suicide mission. >> he set the auto pilot to 100 feet five different times. >> the controller would have no different idea.

>> an attempted terrorist attack was foiled. >> we have individuals who never have been part of a group, but just because of the ideology i will get a vested weapon of attack. >> i will fight for comprehensive immigration reform and a path to citizenship. >> she has been in politics all her life and a lot of people are tired of that. welcome to your "new day," and it's 8:00 in the east and a major development on the crash of 9525. a co-pilot that crashed the flight into the alps took his previous flights hours earlier for a dry run a. rehearsal according to a preliminary report from french investigators. >> it finds the co-pilot reset the auto pilot to 100 feet five times. and with all the breaking

developments we have our cnn correspondent live in london. what you have found? >> the dry run is the thing that stands out, and the interesting thing about it is the scenario that he went through in that would-be dry run is exactly the same as on that fatal flight. what happened was around 7:19 a.m. the captain of that flight left the cockpit. you can hear the cockpit door open and close. just like in the doomed flight the captain was not inside. what happened then is that the co-pilot put the flight to about 100 feet and changed the altitude seven times. at 7:20:50, the second altitude decreased for 50 minutes and then increased to 49,000 feet

and stabilized at 35,000 feet. there was a quick dip and then a quick spike and went back to normal. so in the initial findings of the interim report it says several altitude selections recorded decent on the flight that preceded the accidental flight. this is a report this interim report that will not try to come to any conclusions but the investigators feel that what happened in the flight preceding the doomed flight is so significant that they put this in the initial report. >> let's bring in the cnn aviation analyst and the inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation, and miles o'brien, an investigator. we do care about the

conclusions, and they should have known what the pilot was doing. the question mary do they track what a particular pilot is doing so when you set the auto pilot to 100 five times they take notice of something like that? is there a monitoring system? >> no there isn't at this point, of course and when the captain re-entered the cockpit he had no kaug tphau supbs that this had been done while he was gone and he was out of the bathroom for four minutes, and other when something happens people do not pore over the flight recorder information, and that's one of the issues i hope they take up in the long run, and that is what data should we be capturing on every flight, and should there be other recording devices in the

cockpit, such as cameras. >> the co-pilot ignored a dozen different points of contact from the tower or whatever and what does that speak to in terms of the ability to control what is going on in an airplane? >> well it's up to the pilot in command, the flight screw it self and the air traffic control can't come in and remotely control these aircraft but picking up on what mary has said here when there are deviations like this there is capability for getting that information back to the ground in one way or another, and streaming data would make it possible for the operation center the air traffic control, to know something is amiss on an aircraft. the technology is there and the airline industry resists this and the pilot resists this and cameras in the cockpit would help too. the dry run would be a hard thing to sort out because you

would have to look at a lot of data for flights that were perfectly normal -- >> would they have known he was turning the auto pilot to 100? mary is saying yes. who would know? >> it would be stored on the flight data recorder. >> i am saying while it happens, was anybody able to pick it up? >> if you have the streaming data that miles was just talking about, it's possible to do that now and it has already been tested and it's old technology and you could stream it and it's on the flight data recorder and nobody uses those two methods and they don't download the flight data recorder until there is a crash. >> do you have any question either of you, as to whether or not what we are reading in this report is suggestive of a dry run? are you convinced this is what he did? >> i am. >> no other explanation.

>> help me with this as somebody that doesn't really understand anything about this whole area about piloting and how it's controlled. why would you have to rehearse a suicide crash, miles? >> the airbus aircraft is heavily computerized and much of the control of the aircraft is really done by computers and the human beings is presiding over the system and there are all kinds of ways that system the layer of computational power can override what the pilot wants to do you are going too fast or descending too quickly, and i will not let you do these things says the computer. if you wanted to find a way to fly in the mountains, you want to figure out a way so the computer would go along with it. >> what do you think about this information, and what is the chance that things change going

forward? >> i think they probably will but it's a careful balancing act and the dea tells us the two things they are going to look at especially going forward is balancing the privacy of a patient for mental health conditions and the balancing of the changes made after september 11 2001 versus the safety need to get into the cockpit, and they are going to have to do a balancing act, and i think mostly the change will come on monitoring mental health of pilots because the report makes it seem that he had this special condition on his medical certificate all the way through his last medical and nobody seemed to track it. that will be the biggest change and if they change the cockpit doors, and i hope not, but they will be looking at that if there needs to be other ways to get in. >> and you made two points all along, the rules that apply for the german air flight most of them germanwings, the same

thing here in the u.s. and the mental health who has to talk and who doesn't, certainly at play in the united states as well. and the two gunmen that attacked a muhammad cartoon contest was in contact with leaders of al shabaab. >> reporter: good morning, michaela. they want to widen the dragnet and figure out if there were others that were involved as well, and we have learned from one law enforcement source that the apartment the two men shared in phoenix behind me that apartment was relatively barron but they did manage to get a hard drive that is now being analyzed. but law enforcement already

knows elton simpson was in contact with one isis fighter and that happening on his public twitter feed and we know that when he tweeted something, when simpson tweeted something, it was retreated by the known isis fighter. what is not known is the relationship between the two men, and were they close and was he directed -- at this point law enforcement does not believe it was a direct response they were not be directed but the two men were more than just inspired. do you want $20 million from the u.s. government? give them information on some high-level isis targets. the state department announcing huge bounties for information leading on two isis leaders. what is the play here for the government? >> well this is clearly to put a window of light on the key

isis hierarchy running the show. we know there is $10 million for the abu bakr al baghdadi and they are thinking perhaps number two in the equation is kau dually. it's clear he has a long history, over a decade in al qaeda, and he has been in pakistan and in iraq during the iraqi insurgency and isis' spokesperson and we have seen omar in a lot of different videos and he joined rebel ranks way back in the early stages in the syrian.

finally $3 million for a man who is a leader of isis in the border regions between syria and iraq. a bit of definition as to who they believe the key isis leaders are, and of course investigators looking into garland, texas, will be teen to work out if any of these people knew about it before it happened or if we are dealing, more likely it seems, with lone wolves without help from isis' chain of command. >> we want to go into deeper to all of that and we want to bring in our cnn contributor and co-author of "isis:inside the army of terror." let's talk about these four guys that are of a particular interests to the united states. you find two of them significant. let's start with al anonknee. i was going to point out he is the spokesman for isis.

what do we know about him. >> he has been around and is considered to be one of the predecessors to isis. all the threats against the united states and the west typically come from him. and he was the first person to announce the establishment, and his arabic is good and elegant, and so he is speaking to the multitude in a manner that is persuasive. the other person i find rather fascinating, and he is known as al shaw shawnee. he was trained by u.s. soldiers that trained up one army and he went over to syria a few years ago and emerged in 2012. he was named the amir of northern syria. his representation has been

sensationalized in isis military allure he is seen as one of the most brilliant strategist and he led a raid against a military base that was successful for isis, and they used suicide bombers to blow open the gates. other khefpins they say this guy is all smoke, and his representation doesn't stand up to the actuality on the ground. >> are any of these four guys connected to what happened in garland, texas? >> as far as we know no. the evidence is slight. i happen to believe what happened in garland was two lone wolves looking to get attention, and they were reaching out to al shabaab, they were looking for

jihad in any effect. >> there are reports that particularly this guy left a long twitter trail where he is talking to isis fighters and he might have been talking to an isis recruiter. >> i talk to isis the fighters on twitter. this is a trick and one of the most deceptive aspects of social media. and anybody can create a social media account and act like you are something you are not, and the question is the so-called recruiter, was he saying lie in wait and here is what you are going to do and these are the weapons and targets, or was he saying yeah yeah welcome to the ranks, and here is literature and read up on it and we're not in control of what you are going to do but go off and strike fear into the hearts of the infidel.

we feddishize to the extent where something is set off in europe or europe the fact they are shadowing these guys on twitter or facebook this is what people do what they want to join. >> the bottom line is does this mean that what happened to garland, texas, this is the first time isis had a direct hit on the u.s.? >> they are taking credit for it because what else would they do. here are two radicals trying to strike at a mohamud cartoon contest, and this attack, i mean it was a keystone cops affair, and they had two cops there before they open fire on anybody. this is great for isis. this is perfect. even if they had nothing to do

with it they could claim, this is the goal of our ideology and we are recruiting and even while you sleep, there are people who are being inspired by what we have to say and what we accomplished and we're already in your backyard and there is nothing to do to stop us. >> and whether we should black it out knowing we are not delivering news? >> it's a catch-22. >> yeah. >> isis is to be the sub editors of the western news cycle and they want to control the emotional response to things they don't even have a direct link to. a few headlines for you here. the community of idaho moaning the loss of an officer, and he was shot and killed and the suspect stole his patrol car and a police dog later found the

suspect hiding under a tractor trailer and he is now in custody. california state water board says we will make you useless water. cities must slash usage by 36%. a voluntary water rule not working. cnn's chief international correspondent just interviewed president clinton in marach owe. >> we would only continue accepting people already giving us money, and i tried to re-create that policy as nearly as i can now during the campaign with minor exceptions with our

health care work which we can talk about, if you like. and people know that they understand that an enormous percentage of health and development work around the world is funded by governments and multinational organizations, and they are taking advantage of opportunities, but we also have 300,000 other donors and 90% of them give $100 or less. so there is just no evidence and even the guy that wrote the book had to admit he didn't have a shred of evidence and he just thought he would throw it out there and it won't fly. >> that's interesting. so we will have more of the interview this afternoon at 4:00 p.m. eastern.

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. attorney general, loretta lynch, says the department of justice weulg work to improve the baltimore police department after working with local communities officials. joining me a civil rights activist. happy to have you. i am curious. you got to meet with our newly appointed attorney general, loretta lynch. what was your impression of her? >> a warm and engaging person. she was there to listen and you could tell that she was listening and taking notes, and she expressed her concern about

the city and her concern that would last beyond the time that cameras and reporters were covering baltimore, so i thought she was very -- a very solid and reinforcing presence for the city leaders of baltimore. >> the question is did the words resonate and do you feel watching the reaction of the people and what they were looking for from her, do you feel her words will have a lasting affect on baltimore? >> i think they will. i feel the ministers, in particular were able to tell very moving stories about how policing works, especially in west baltimore, and one minister talked about how he saw schoolchildren thrown on the ground by police officers and another minister talked about how he himself was thrown across the top of a police car, and the attorney general listened to all of this and she had a full team

there and taking notes and asking follow-up questions and it was a compelling dialogue. >> i appreciated how active the faith leaders and other community civil rights leaders in the community and beyond come together to brainstorm and you, in fact wrote an opt ed in "the baltimore sun," and it's a prescription to the mayor and police commissioner and you make suggestions about reading the interim report on 240th century policing, and you suggest reforms like body cameras on the police but the part i found most interesting was the heartfelt plea you wrote to the mayor of baltimore, somebody you have known for quite sometime and you say you can be a better informed

champion of police reform. what are you seeing that is not enough for you? >> take for example, in 2012 there were 123,000 stops in baltimore city and mostly of african-americans. that's a huge number of stops. very few weapons were found in these stops, and very few of these stops led to arrests, and this mayor has known about this problem since childhood because her father pete rawlings had with my parents many times over dinner to talk about the disconnect between policing practices and the african-american community, and so i think now with the web and everything that her father didn't have there is really no excuse for not being informed of the latest techniques that are available to mayors and police chiefs. i think she is a great mayor and i think the police chief is a

great police chief. that being said i feel like we as a country are going from city to city and not taking advantage of the wealth of information provided by the justice department that offer to modernize policing tactics. baltimore is in terrible need of reform of routine policing from a practices, and it goes to the rank and file and it's not about the police chief but it's about the treatment of african-american citizens and that costs the entire tax base of baltimore a tremendous amount of money. >> right. we certainly know that reform needs to happen at the top in order for it to affect the rank and file. did the mayor react to your letter? >> i have not heard a direct reactions, but she has worked effectively with the justice department from everything i can tell, and i think her resolve

has deepened and this is a crisis that means attention for the long term and that she needs to be at the fore of reforms in that city. >> i appreciate the fact that you are not just criticizing, and you may be critical of some of the practices and you want to be part of the solution and you want reform to happen. thank you for adding your voice to ours here on "new day." >> thank you for having me. hillary clinton has a big lead among democrats. so what says bernie sanders? he is coming on here to "new day" to make the case, and test it for yourself. s a leading allergy pill. most allergy pills only control one substance, flonase controls six. so go ahead, inhale life. new flonase. six is greater than one. this changes everything.

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needs of the working families and middle class, and we have a situation for the last 40 years the middle class of the country have been disappearing and people are working longer hours for lower wages, and 99% of new income in terms of the distribution of wealth it's obscene. i am prepared to take on the billionaire class, and i think that's what has to happen if we are going to see a middle class in the country expand rather than to continue to shrink. >> amen say families all across the country, senator, and hillary says the same thing, she is for everyday americans, and why bernie sanders? >> i like her and respect her, and i am running for working families and not against hillary clinton, but people have to look

at the record. i have voted against every disastrous trade agreement coming down the pike against the transpacific partnership, and people have to look at clinton's record. later today i will to tall for the breakup of the largest financial institutions on wall street who in my view if they are too big to fail they are too big to exist and they have too much power, and i am calling for and will introduce legislation that will provide a free college education with no tuition. we have introduced legislation to the wealthiest people and the largest corporations you know with you will have to pay your fair share of taxes. i have been a leader in terms of climate change and introduced

legislation for the first time and this is a globe annual crisis and america has to move away from fossil fuels. >> you are saying tax and spend, tax the rich and punish them for doing well and dump it into programs that never work. >> chris, the truth is for the last 25 years, there has been a huge transfer of wealth in this country from the middle class and working families. i am talking about trillions of dollars. so the slice of the pie for the middle class has gotten smaller and all of the money has gone to the top, one-tenth of 1%. billionaires are able to control the political process in the country. i am proud, and i have to tell you, we announced five days ago on berniesanders.com, and we

sent out millions and on the first day, we received $1.5 million. >> you are saying you are not going to be about the big money, and you have the big supreme court case citizens united and that says money is speech and they can play the game and it seems like everybody takes money in politics these days and you will never change it. >> chris, let's be very clear. when you have a handful of billionaires able to spend as much money as they want supporting their candidates what you are looking at and let's be clear, is the undermine undermining of american democracy, and a handful of billionaires will determine who are officials are. i am not going to do that. we are getting small contributions from working people. i think we need to raise money,

and we can run a credible and winning campaign. >> do you think you can match hillary's position on immigration, and it will be unpopular with the right and some in the middle. what do you say? >> i have not seen her position in detail but i believe we have11 billion undocumented people. >> full path to citizenship or qualified? >> over a period of years, a full path of citizenship. >> now, hillary clinton says i am against the super wealthy class and i am everyday americans and i am going to do the same thing bernie does i just sound different. what do you say? >> that's for the american people to decide. i think you have to look at my

record and there is in my lifetime political life no special interests that we have not taken on. i was the first member of the united states congress when i was in the house to take on the pharmaceutical industry and tell people in my state and around the country, you know let's go to canada and we can buy prescription drugs significantly lower than in the united states and i have legislation that says we are not going to cut social security but we have to expand social security. we have to tell in terms of the individual taxpayers, these hedge fund guys are going to have to pay their fair share, and i think i have a strong record in standing up for people who are voiceless today and have given up on the political process. >> how do you get them out on the polls? when you say things about giving more on the have nots that's unpopular and sounds expensive,

and -- >> first of all, it is not expensive in the sense that if you say to people all over this country should large profitable multinational corporations who today are not paying a nickel in federal taxes because they are stashing their money in cayman islands, should they start paying their fair share? they say they should. i have introduced legislation that would end that. talk to warren buffett, one of the richest guys in the world and he says it's absurd. my effective tax rate is lower than my secretaries, and the american people understand that and we have to make college affordable for our young people if we are going to compete in the global economy. real unemployment in this country is not 5.5% it's 11%.

we need to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and when we do that we will put 13 million people back to work and 7s the agenda i will be fighting for. >> bernie sanders, you are in the race and this is a start, and thank you for joining us on "new day." good luck going forward. >> chris, thank you. here is an amazing story. they were sent to argentina, and now two girls are back after a five-year legal ordeal. that story coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ if you can't put a feeling into words, why try? at 62,000 brush movements per minute philips sonicare leaves your mouth with a level of clean like you've never felt before giving you healthier gums in just two weeks.

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an update now on a story we have been following on new day for nearly two years. a colorado dad desperate to get his two daughters back from argentina after more than 4 1/2 years and he scores a huge win. we are joined live with the latest from denver. good morning, ana. >> reporter: good morning,

alisyn. finally, a reunion and he had been fighting for this trip reaching out to international powers who he would hope would apply pressure on argentina who would return his children and now it has come but it was not the fairytale story he had envisioned. he had been thinking about this moment for his daughters for nearly five years. but he never imagined this. attacked by his wife's brother, in front of his children who were abducted and taken to argentina by their mother. >> i think the girls are right now very confused and in time they are going to see that having a mother and a father in their lives is the most important thing. >> the children caught in the

middle of an international tug-of-war. his wife took the girls in 2010 against the order that declared him the custodial parent. instead of taking weeks, burns' battle turns into years, amid a litany of tactics to slow the process down. >> i had been to argentina seven times, and the first time it took me over 17 months to go and see my daughters. >> we first met him in 2013 frustrated with the legal process, and hopeful the finish line was near, and it would be another year and a half before he was told to travel in late march for a argentina judge to

sign the final order. then on april 13th the order was issued. burns picks up his daughters at the u.s. embassy. >> thanks guys. >> it was agreed in the best interest of the children she would join him and the girls in their return to the united states. >> give me your hands, guys. >> finally after 4 1/2 years he could bring them home. and then a traumatizing scene. 14 hours later, we were prepared for their arrival in aspen, colorado but only she got off the plane. >> this is the thing, the story

is not only one side. >> will you talk to us to give you your side? >> not today, but the girls are missing right now. >> they stayed with dennis in texas, and after they arrived he needed medical treatment after the scuffle at the airport in argentina. burns' dream of bringing his girls home finally realized but the legal battle not over yet. >> there are legal orders issued by this court here are in place and enforceable but with what happened in argentina, we have to figure out how that all comes together. the senate focus now is figuring out how to move forward in the best interest of the children and a colorado court is still deciding that and for now dennis burns remains the primary

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