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e in a big national platform debate would be a bold move for portman who is also up for re-election to his senate seat in 2016. thank you for sharing your sunday morning. "state of the union" starts right now. >> the u.s. military on alert as isis threatens america. this is "state of the union." the senate home left-hand security chairman on isis hitting the heartland, and the point man for the fight in the middle east, jeb bush's stunning admission, and remembering victory in europe 70 years on. good morning from washington. i am jim scuitto. the u.s. military bases today on heightened alert over potential terror attacks by isis supporters here in the u.s. the fbi says hundreds and perhaps thousands of isis sympathizers may be here in the homeland right now. joining me now is senator ron johnson, chairman of the senate
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homeland security committee, and senator johnson thank you for joining us on this mother's day. >> good morning, jim. >> we appreciate having you here. we talked about the fight with isis and having the wisdom of having u.s. boots on the ground in iraq. today you have isis threatening military bases in the u.s. is the u.s. the new front line in the fight against isis? >> well we're certainly vulnerable and this is all part of isis's strategy and trying to inspire more acts of violence as we saw in texas last sunday. so from my standpoint i think the best strategy that the u.s. could employ to defeat this is to defeat isis in iraq and syria so that the reality actually is conveyed that this is not a winning organization it's a losing organization because, jim, as long as they are not losing as long as they individuals who might be drawn to jihad don't perceive isis as
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a losing organization they will be perceived as winning and they will continue to inspire this type of jihadists activity and extreme violence here in america. >> in looking at the response to the texas shooting the shooter there, simpson, he was on law enforcement radar scene, and he was being monitored and had given his name as somebody interested in the prophet mohammed cartoon contest. now the fbi is going back and taking another look over at everybody on the radar screen to see if they missed something else. as you look at this do you consider this an intelligence failure and are you confident the fbi and law enforcement here have the resources to track those, perhaps hundreds and maybe more in the u.s. who have sympathies with isis? >> well one of the witnesses in our hearing called jihad 2.0 has been trying to assess you know how big of a following does isis
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have here in the u.s. and he estimated that the probable guess, maybe as high as 90,000 will avert accounts on twitter, and consider maybe 90,000 people drawn to this barbaric ideology. we have a very large hey stack and looking for a needle in it and of course the fbi had an informant talking to mr. simpson 330 times, and spent $132,000 to pay the informant, and simpson was placed on probation, and he is tweeting about activities later on. how can we track so many people that might be drawn to this? that's where i go back to my main point. our number one strategy we need to actually accomplish the goal president obama stated degrade and defeat isis and the sooner the better. >> 333 conversations, and that
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sounds like a pretty serious failure here to have that much contact and let him buy the guns and body armour and carry out this attack? >> jim, the problem is what do you do with the not guilty yet? we have laws and a constitution and it's extremely difficult for law enforcement officials when you might have tens of thousands of sympathizers, and how do you track them all? the fbi has less than 15,000 field agents and all the field agents aren't concentrating solely on the threat of islamic terror and there are all kinds of domestic crimes the fbi has to trace and track and keep track of so you have to go back to the root cause, and the root cause is isis was allowed to rise from the ashes of al qaeda in iraq, and we are not conveying to the extent they are weakened but as long as they have the territory and cal fate they will have territory, and we need to get back to the root
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cause and defeat isis. >> you have been on the record about isis and it's the way they use incription the they message to people, and they go a way that could be impossible to track. you said earlier this week we are losing the capability of monitoring this to keep ourselves safe. what does the u.s. intelligence committee do about that if they moved to communication that cannot be tracked? >> well there is a real misperception the federal government has perfect knowledge, that we are just providing surveillance or conducting surveillance on everybody that might be a subject and we have perfect knowledge, and individuals engaging those communities are pretty surprise the individuals believe we have that perfect information, and we don't. the bottom line people need to be alert and if you see something you have to say
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something, and as americans we have to realize this threat is real, and our first line of defense is an effective intelligence gathering capability combined with a robust continuing monitoring and oversight of the intelligence agencies to make sure we are not violating civil hreuber tease. i think the demagoguery, and snowden has done great harm to our ability to gather that information. >> the federal appeals court ruled the bulk collection of phone meta data is illegal and you have a debate and vote coming up on the renewal of the patriot act, and you have this problem, less ability to track with all the nas's afpltnsa's capability and how does it affect the debate on capitol hill? is it more likely the patriot act will be as it is as it stands be renewed, or do you see more restrictions being
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placed on the ability to track these kinds of communications? >> i hope the reality of the situation, the reality of the threats we face will actually play a big part in terms of how congress responds. it's important to note that the second circuit court of appeals did not rule it unconstitutional they just said it was not being applied properly based on how the law was written so we have to take a look at how we write these, quite unhonestly complex laws and our best line of defense is an effective intelligence capability. protecting civil hreuber tease is not a partisan issue, from the extreme right to the extreme left and everywhere in between, we wand to guard and protect civil hreuber tease. >> jurorsenator johnson, thank you
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for joining us this sunday. >> have a great day. hitting isis at its source is as critical as protecting the military and i am joined by the president of president obama's point man. thank you for joining us. >> we talk about the front lines being over there, and they are, and now you have u.s. bases under threats here. is this the new front line in your view in the fight against isis? >> the threat of the challenge is enormous and it's something we have never seen before. i will give you numbers. we have 22,000 foreign terrorists fighters that have gone into syria and iraq to fight isis, and 3,700 of those are from western nations, and 180 americans have tried to travel to iraq and syria, and in the last few weeks, 15 americans, the fbi filed charges for supporting isis. this is a federal and state and local challenge.
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that's why we put together a multifaceted and approach to combat it. since september we built the global coalition to combat isis and myself and general allen, we have been to about 25 capitals over the last six months and we are in paris when the "charlie hebdo" attack was going on and we have been to brussels and we were in amman after the pilot was assassinated by isis and in every single capital we have seen the populations respond with resilient see and the government double down on isis, and we have been clear from day one, it's going to take years, and it's a long-term challenge and we have not seen it before and it's going to take a long time to defeat them. >> one of the ironies here the harder the u.s. and coalition hits them on the ground there, the more they are spurred into action over here because they want to draw blood, in effect do they not on the u.s.
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homeland? how do you counter that? they want to show strength and draw blood here, and how do you counter that because the danger rises here as the campaign becomes more intense there. >> that is what they are trying to do and i agree with senator johnson, we have to defeat them in the heart of their falsely proclaimed cal afate. we are taking back territory from iraq and i was talking to our commanders this morning, and we have thousands of tribal fighters organizing to fight isis and that's going to be ongoing over the coming weeks, and 1,100 volunteered two days ago in falluja. and as they are defeated in iraq and syria, they will try to inspire attacks around the world. we have been seeing them do this here and they are trying to do it all around the world. >> sidney and other places in the world. you talk about gaining trort back. i want to show you and the viewers a map of isis controlled and influenced places in iraq. this is today. the red lines are under isis
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control and the orange lines under isis influence, and this is the battlefield three months -- two months ago, rather. it's not a big change. and we have seen -- i can't really identify the change there, and we have seen back and forth. yes, coalition and iraqi forces gained back tikrit. it looks like a see saw from abroad. where are the victories and how do you quantify success on the ground? >> first, it's a long-term campaign. it's three yards, hard yards, every single month, month to month and it's going to take years. i was in iraq 11 months ago to the day today when mow sul fell. the capital of baghdad was under threat and we responded immediately, and beginning in august with the air strikes we began to degrade their abilities.
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we have taken back 25% of the populated areas that isis was controlling back then and it's going to take time but we are building up iraqi capabilities and have thousands of american special forces and trainers and they are now getting out on the front lines. ramadi jim, was under threat from january 1st 2014 and isis moved into ramadi six months before mosul. they are going to continue to fight, and now we are helping them. as we organize the tribes as they are starting to we are going to -- the sunni tribes we are going to push isis out of the areas there. the focus is iraq and syria and it's also globe annual. we have to cut down the foreign fighter networks and counter them in the messaging face, and we have a global coalition of 62 nations to do that. all of these nations and every capital we are in they understand it's a long-term multiyear challenge that will
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take a long time. >> you mentioned training of iraqi forces and syria and moderate rebels that is just beginning, a company sized group announced bisect carter this week, and i spoke earlier this week with the president of the syrian opposition council. this is what he had to say about u.s. support. >> we have the capability and the ability to fight against the terrorism and against the terror by the regime but we need more fighters and we need to have it much more fighter. >> he described u.s. support earlier in that interview as too slow and small, and they want thousands of fighters and how does that change the military calculous on the ground? >> the training just started last week as secretary of defense carter noted. we have about 3,400 volunteers now that we are in the process of vetting, and we hope to have 3,000 trained by the end of the
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year and 5,000 trained 12 months from now. it has to run in due course, and when it passed legislation, we have to be careful with the vetting and make sure we have fighters to fight isis on the ground and we had a good conversation about what we are trying to do and in geneva this week my colleague, he will be in geneva with the u.n. and syrian opposition coalition to try and reinvigorate a process. the assad regime has not agreed to operate in good faith, and we have to find a political solution to that conflict. as we do we are going to train up the moderate opposition forces and we hope to have 3,000 by the end of the year. it started last week jim, and that's promising, it's finally getting under way. >> thank you for joining ugs on this sunday. >> thank you. are we less safe now than we were in the days just after
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rahm ridge, the first homeland security secretary for the u.s. he is now ceo of ridge globe annual which deals with security and kraoeusice management and we have former congressman, micke roger, and governor if i could begin with you. compare the threat to the homeland today, the terror threat to the homeland today to when you had your job just after 9/11? are we safer or less safe? >> when it comes to the nature of the threat we are in much more dangerous circumstances. we have seen al qaeda tphau tsa advertised and it's a global scourge, and you have the assent done see of isil. we have seen them acting in belgium and france and canada and the united states. so the threat from the nature of
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the threats are far more complicated and serious today than on september 12th 2001. >> that's a remarkable and alarming statement. what do we do about it? >> you have to get after the safe haven. think of the two problems. we have 20 al qaeda affiliates and some relatively new and some old, and they just opened up one in india, and they are all new threat vectors we have to put in the matrix. they have sphraeus in which they claimed to train and recruit operations. >> in yemen. >> and they are getting worse. you have isil who has all of eastern syria, a good chunk of iraq and little disruption activity to their operations. they have the global reach with social media that we never saw before including 2001 that is having an impact and what you saw happen in the united states that is exactly the plan that they had for terrorists
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activities in western countries. >> are you safe to go after the safe havens? you have training of moderate rebels in syria, and are you talking about u.s. military action in a place such as libya? i mean there is limited strikes in somalia and yemen, but are you talking about military intervention? >> we don't need boots on the ground unless it continues to spill over, and the longer it goes the higher risk united states will have to interfere, unless you are willing to accept what happened to texas. at what point does this boil to the point where we decide we are going to have to be serious about stopping the fact that the people who are getting self recruited in the united states believe that isil is winning in the middle east because that's the message they are receiving
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on social media, despite the notion that there is a large-scale effort it really isn't accurate which is what we can help with that and the intelligence isn't great, and we can help a lot with that and we will need special capability soldier involvement if we make sure our allies are impactful. all of that can happen without boots on the ground. >> in the texas shooting, alton simpson, the gunman he was on the radar, and they spoke to him 333 times, so they were already looking at him in a way they might be looking at other potential sympathizers. was that a major law enforcement failure, and do you have confidence the fbi has the resources to take a harder look at the hundreds perhaps thousands of others who may or may not go that way? >> two very important questions, and i think you raise them very effectively. one, this individual was given
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probation by a judge in spite of purgering and lying and we had our eyes on him, at what point in democracy do we say we are so fearful and you are so suspect and we are concerned but we don't have the ability to take you off the street and that is something that we have to figure out as we go -- >> legally -- >> and deal with it and we have to think about it now and it's more complicated than people think. if the fbi had the resources, no, they don't, but i don't know if that means they will double or triple the number of people in the fbi. one of the challenges we since tw 2001 is integrating the knowledge and capabilities the fbi has and blend themwith the state and local police and law enforcement agencies and there has been institutional reluctance reluctance. >> this was supposed to be corrected after the 9/11 -- >> i think the intelligence share something good and not where it needs to be.
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the fact of the matter remains where i talked to commissioner davis in boston, and he was aware of the tsarnaev brothers after the brothers went off. i am not sure the fbi had advised him then but one wonders, 23 you advise the commissioner of the two suspected terrorists and it's not like russia picks up the phone every day and calls us and says we think you have terrorists in your midst, that doesn't happen. >> there was a warning, yeah. >> the burden on the fbi is too enormous and great. they can't do it by themselves. hopefully under jim comey, they will begin to share more information and call upon the locals to do leg work and keep their eyes on come of the folks. >> mike you have a background in the fbi. i wondered do we raise the expectation unrealisicly that u.s. law enforcement can stop
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every attack like this? it's easy to carry out -- you don't need 19 hijackers and a flight school to carry out a lone wolf attack like this you just need to buy a couple guns, right? is it unrealis eubg to tell americans we can keep you safe 100% of the time from this kind of -- >> anybody that tells you they can keep you safe 100% of the time doesn't know what they are talking about. they are at their limit. what we are telling the national agencies and britain and others they are at water's edge rate now. they can't keep up with the volume which is, again, why the strategy can't be if you treat it as a law enforcement issue that we are going to deal with we are going to lose and lose badly, and if we treat it for going after a group that declared war against the united states in a way that doesn't put troops on the ground i think we will have a much more successful
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effort at stopping violence here at home. without it you can't -- you cannot take those two things apart and expect success. >> i think the fbi is doing the best they can, and the recent appeals court decision is probably going to make it more difficult. we have taken one more tool off the table for them to use to try and track folks in syria calling back into the united states. the more we make it more difficult the higher likelihood we are going to have an event we will all be sorry for. >> you celebrated great moments of civility in american history, and i wonder if this issue counter terror fighting extremism and giving law enforcement the tools they need to do so is that an issue that could bring people to the table in a more cooperative bipartisan way? >> yeah we did celebrate civility allegheny college in
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person pennsylvania celebrated the chief police kevin murphy giving his badge to john lewis in reconciliation in 2013 after the beating that euless took in alabama, a very powerful notion. it's a notion that i think we need to understand. there are causes and issues that are bigger than either party, and if we can't rally behind our intelligence community, the law enforcement community, and don't get me wrong, i don't think the fbi can do it and i know they work hard every single day to keep us safe and secure and i don't want my remarks to be misinterpreted, but they can't do it along, and we need to keep the ability. the global scourge, we are going to be at it a long time. we need the congress of the united states between now and the end of the year to deal with that opinion that we got with regard to section 215 of the patriot act.
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it would be irresponsible to eliminate that. i think the court gave us a good pathway. you need to connect the information you seek with a specific request, and i think it would past muster and then we have to deal with first and fourth amendment challenges as well. >> we will know next month. great, as always to have you on. happy mother's day. who is running for president in 2016? it's more like who isn't. the panel on the field that just keeps growing when we come back. bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. meet the world's newest energy superpower.
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i am a candidate for president of the united states of america. >> i am carly fiorina, and i am running for president. >> i am ben carson and i am running for president. >> i am announcing that i am running for president of the united states. >> i am putting myself forward as a candidate for president of the united states. >> i announce my candidacy for president of the united states. >> so the official 2016 republican presidential field is now up to six. half of those announcements from this past week. joining me around the table, a republican strategy worked for mitt romney's campaign, and cnn police kul reporter cheryl murray and steve mcmahon he
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has worked on three democratic campaigns. you see them. any serious candidates? >> i think all of them are serious candidates. when you look at the polls, you see where the party and is you have a deal of frustration from some grassroots against the establishments and some of the candidates provide a voice to a lot of the conservatives. this is one of the great things is for voters out there that want options, particularly in the republican side they have a lot of them. it's a very strong field. >> in that group, who do they worry about most? >> nobody that we just saw. the candidates that they wur ae about more were not in the clip and jeb bush one and scott walker presents a interesting challenge. i was struck by kevin's response
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because i think it depends on how you define serious, right? there are serious among a certain core group within the republican party, but i think for most voters in the middle and for the people deciding this none of those candidates are serious. >> a number of the gop hopefuls missing was rand paul and chris christie. what does that tell us? >> there are a lot of cattle calls and you need to pick and choose which one you will go to. i think paul and christie was not concerned about being there, and we are seeing a lot of that going on. jeb bush was making his pitch to evangelicals. i think rand paul has done a little bit of this but from the candidates that did speak, i think it was a good opportunity to get in front of an early state and make your pitch to evangelicals and that's what we saw. >> jeb raised eyebrows when he
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announced george w. bush -- >> why would that raise eyebrows? here is the thing. it would raise eyebrows if he was not taking counsel from somebody who was previously in office. it would be more of a problematic answer if he denied that. i will say there is a challenge, and one of the big challenges jeb bush had, he said i am my own man and he wants to make the case it's about his vision and his agenda for the country, and it becomes problematic. when you are trying to talk about what your plans are for the future when you are going to be forced by democrats and other critics to litigate the past it becomes a challenge. >> people in the room were surprised to hear these words come out of jeb bush's mouth because he has been so careful in public to try and distance himself from his brother. i also think the way jeb bush's
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staff reacted to this gives you an indication of the fact that they think it's damaging. they were saying look he was just talking about israel and not about the middle east or foreign policy more broadly, and that's -- >> a little bit. >> that's not what our sources were saying. and it's not like he will call up his brother and said look i talked to call about israel but do not mention iran or iraq we could not possibly talk about them. >> george w. bush would not speak to his father about foreign policy which would have made americans feel better about the decisions he was making and the deal the clintons offered america, the two for one deal looks better than the two for one deal the bushes are offering. >> and barack obama has very low foreign policy ratings right now, and it's interesting to see -- >> have you seen his numbers? we are talking about people in the same family now? >> the only numbers i have seen
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is the big number for bill clinton and what he is getting. >> she was the second of state at that time. i think this is problematic on both sides of the aisle, but if you look at the american public they still have -- they still look at the war in iraq and have very deviceivisive views about that. >> does the terror threat bring it home? as often as we talk about it for many americans, it's at arm's length and over there, and a lot of names in iraq and syria that can't quite, you know get their heads around. is that a major issue in this campaign? >> i think it's a major issue and you look at the candidates on the right, and i won't call it a clown show but you look at the folks we just looked at and some of the others running, they will make people feel better about hillary clinton and her experience and a lot better about having bill clinton around and nearby. his numbers are extraordinary, and his post popular former
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president who is living today, and there's a reason for that, and that's because people respect him and are comforted by the fact he will be a phone call away at any moment if hillary clinton is in the white house. >> stay with me kevin, steve and sarah. i want to ask you about president obama taking on one of the most popular members of his own party as well. that's right after this break. i'm brian vickers, nascar® driver. i'm kevin nealon comedian.
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steve, smart for him to be taking on a democrat elizabeth warren in her criticism of the trance pacific partnership trade deal but a democratic more pop than he is with the base and those are strong words? >> it's honest of him to do it. one of the things that happens when you become president you have to look at the entire world and you look at it differently than when you are a progressive senator from massachusetts. they each have a job to do and they are different jobs. elizabeth warren is a strong voice for, you know workers and for progressive causes and we need that in our party. the president is the president and he is negotiating a trade deal, and he is not going to sell out progressive policies because he's you know one of the biggest proponents of progressive policies we ever had in the white house. >> she is popular, and it's not obama running, and he is out on a limb there? >> talk about strange bed fellows on this issue. you have president obama and a
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lot of republicans running for president saying they are in favor of the trade deal and then you have elizabeth warren who says she is against it and this gives the idea there is an equal populist moment and that is going to carry over to the election and the candidates will have to find a way to walk the line. do you have to find a way to get trade deals done, yes, and they will have to state that. >> let's ask about another issue that candidates have to walk the line and that's immigration. hillary clinton taking a strong possession saying she supports a path to full and legal path to citizenship. i want to ask you, this is a big issue with latino voters. who is on the right side of this? >> this is an issue where republicans have to be careful, and the clinton campaign are
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laying bait on an issue that they suspect republicans will overreach on and we will come out quickly and criticize the democrats in a way that totally defines our stance on this issue by what we are against versus what we are for, saying we are anti-amnesty and against this and that, and hillary clinton is wrong. she may be wrong on her policy but we have to make sure as a party with the key voting democrat graphics the key voters we tell them what it is we are for, how a modernized immigration system fits in with a globe annual economy and how we want to to invite people to the country who are aspirational americans. >> you heard the words from cruz and christie and did you see an opportunity there? >> yeah there was a great article in the washington post, and he eviscerated huckabee and
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he made the following observation observation, and he said most americans don't pay attention to politics but they do pay attention to presidential campaigns and that helps them to define what that party stands for and what that party might do were they in power. it's a real challenge for republicans. kevin, you know he says it exactly right, the clinton campaign is tactically is smart and are setting a trap, and the republicans will overreach because they always do and will find themselves in a way with voters that is negative. >> appreciate you joining us on mother's day. coming up next the veteran who fought in two of the most mow men mow men tuesday battles in the second world war. loving, deliciously fruity, grab-and-go, take on the world with 100 calories, snack. yoplait greek 100. there are hundreds
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welcome back. this weekend marks the 70th anniversary of the e-day, the end of the war, world war ii in europe. washington, d.c. commemorated the day with an arielle tribute to veterans. i spoke with 596-year-old u.s. navy veteran. he fought in asia and europe. along with the author of "the bedford boys." . mr. harry miller. >> over 40,000 americans died. that's why we're here to celebrate the end of the war but also to commemorate the loss. omaha beach on june 6th 1944. >> what were your chances of surviving? >> in company a to which the
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bedford boys belonged 129th division they landed on the deadliest sector of omaha beach which was the deadliest beach. out of 180 men, 112 were killed. by lunchtime on d-day, maybe 10 12 guys could actually stand and fight. >> so 10 out of 180. >> you have to go back to the civil war to experience a loss like that. so it was a huge sacrifice. >> veteran nick ju ris shared memories from d-day. >> it's not easy to talk about. >> he and his men came before the girs wave of troops who stormed omaha beach, the deadliest stretch of the french coastline. under fire the rocket boats shelled the beach to try to soften up german defenses ahead of the landing troops. >> it was tragic. nothing we could do. as i turned around to head away
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from the beach, i saw them point too high. and they had those army guys going up metal ladders and the germans were shooting them off the metal ladders. >> you saw the rangers climbing up -- >> they were climbing up the damn metal ladders -- >> today zuris still gets emotional recalling his frustration at not being able to do more to save american lives that day. >> i interviewed veterans who landed on the first wave. they said when you fired your rockets they were in their landing craft and they cheered as the rockets came over head. they're like oh my god, maybe the defenses can be destroyed. >> after we started back we were damn near hit by the light cruiser and the destroyer coming
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in and firing on the beach. so something happened in the meantime after all that tragedy took place that gave them the troops a chance to make the landing. otherwise they would be annihilated. >> i wonder today, 70 years later, there was a poll we saw that most young people in europe and the u.s. don't even know what ve day is. do you think that people remember? >> i think that's a tragic fact if it's true. i'd like to think the opposite. i think most people of an older generation certainly -- i'm in my late 40s. i remember. most europeans remember. i'd hope that's wrong. i think the difference is that during your time sir, it was an all or nothing fight. it was really all or nothing. over 14 million americans in uniform. you fought in europe until you were killed or wounded. >> it strikes me that in your
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time this was a national fight here in the u.s. and europe as well. everybody contributed. today, you know, the wars in afghanistan and iraq are fought on the backs of a very small portion of the population. i wonder if people today can identify with that same sense of a national -- frankly, an international mission. what do you think? sgroo >> i don't think so. i'll be honest. world war ii everybody pulled together. it was a case of national survivor. world war ii was i believe was won by the housewives at home as much as it was by gentleman like yourself. everybody gave everything they could. >> could we do so again today? >> you would have to bring back a draft. you would have to make sacrifice national and shared. when everybody -- when every congressman's son and every senator's relative is also fighting the good fight.
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then we could do it again, absolutely. we're doing our best now, but we only have a very small minority of the american population fighting -- >> it's important. >> repeated tours. >> and the same groups of americans today are making the greatest sacrifice as before. the national guard units, the american working class are still the ones that we use when we want to fight wars abroad. >> our generation remembers, our parents' generation remembers, but are those memories fading? >> that's a horrible question because i would hate to think that. my son remembers because i made him remember. i think if we celebrate these events if we make sure it's part of the our history, if we make it a core of our culture, then no we won't forget and we should never forget. because we owe everything to these men. >> that's why we're here so we don't. >> we can vote we're not in a concentration camp. we have freedoms we take for granted. it's why we can be who we are
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thanks for watching requesting state of the union." before we go i want to wish a very special happy mother's day to my wife gloria mother to our two boys soon to be mother to another little girl. i spend every day in awe of what she does and the love she shows. i know there are many other fathers and sons and daughters out there who feel the same way. happy mother's day to all of you. fareed fareed zakaria "gps" starts right now. this is "gps," the "global public square." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we'll start with the attempted attack in texas. was it isis directed? what turns seemingly normal