obviously 243 people onboard the train, that they were taking people by police van -- >> that is correct. >> yeah, at least . >> this is cnn breaking news. >> all right. it is midnight on the east coast. i am don lemon. our breaking news tonight, five people killed as an amtrak train derails. at least 50 people are hospitalized. six of those we are told are in critical condition. amtrak 188 traveling from washington to new york city. five crew members on the train when it derailed in that section of philadelphia. hospitals across philadelphia are receiving patients at this

hour as rescue workers work feverishly at the scene to try to make sure that everyone is out of that scene. the fbi is investigating as well. so far there is nothing to indicate the derailment was an act of terrorism. that information is coming from the fbi. amtrak has cancelled all service between philadelphia and new york. and the railroad asks people with questions about friends and family members on board to call this number. here sit for you. it's 1-800-523-9101. again, 1-800-523-9101. the mayor of philadelphia giving a press conference and taking questions from folks there. the mayor saying it is absolutely disastrous, an absolute disastrous mess and saying he has never seen anything like this in my life.

never seen anything like this in my life. matthew wald joins us now and he is an accident expert. math yo matthew, you said this is one of amtrak's worst accidents? >> yes. the railroad has a pretty good safety record and the northeast corridor generally has a good safety worker. they have occasional accidents where a track worker is struck. these accidents are infrequent and there's a reason. they are pretty well engineered and pretty well maintained. something has gone wrong either with the train or the track or both. they are both amtrak's problem, both amtrak's issue. in the past they have had a crash because i think it was back in the early 70s because

the engineer was high on drugs. you can get all sorts of problems. the train system is getting more automated and that's positive train control. and that can eliminate a category of accidents but at the moment we don't know what category this accident is in. >> uh-huh. mary, you want to talk about that? >> and matthew's exactly right. positive train control is something that gives the train and the conductor and the people working on the track, anyone in relationship with the train and track, gives them information about where the train is on the track and what else is on the track and it uses various sensors and computer communication. however it won't stop things like a tractor trailer pulls on to the track. the positive train control won't stop in time or won't be able to

give the engineer enough time to stop that kind of an accident from happening but it is supposed to give information to the train. for example, if two trains are on the same track and they're headed on a collision course or one is not moving ahead fast enough, that's the kind of thing that positive train control can tell the engineer. if there's a work car on the track, a train car working on the track. >> okay. mary and matthew on the phone, let's go over some of this information here. shortly after 9:30, right around 9:30 they got the call saying there was an issue and once they got there they said they had six overturned train cars that they saw. the train was en route from washington d.c. to new york. five people confirmed dead. 243 people on board the train and that includes five amtrak

employees. they said it was seven cars including the engine that were completely derailed from the track. 200 police officers, 120 fire personnel on the scene along with the mayor and the chief, the fire chief there in philadelphia. mayor michael nutter says that he has never seen anything like this in his life. amtrak is asking people with questions about friends and about family members there, 1-800-523-9101. the mayor of philadelphia just moments ago. >> 243 individuals on this train. five of whom are amtrak employees. unfortunately, we can confirm at least five individuals deceased. this is a preliminary estimate. the train's seven cars including

the engine are in various stages of disarray, turned over, upside down, on their side. we are still investigating what's going on. a total of 200 police personnel responded to this incident as well. most individuals were able to walk off of the train. >> at least five people dead in this accident. the reason we say that is the mayor says we don't know what happened and we don't know why and in order to get an accurate account, an accurate count of the people who died, the people who were injured, where they are, they need to match the manifest, the passenger manifest, meaning the people at the hospital, people treated at the scene, people who possibly just walked away and on and on and on. so they don't know exactly how many people yet. they say at least five people have died in this crash. passengered on that train spoke up moments ago about what they experienced.

>> we were in the front seat and this huge red suitcase came flying at me and pushed me to the side of the train and hit my chest. i think i have a few fractured ribs. i'm a nurse. i tried to help many injured people on the train and they were very, very upset. my son went back and got everybody off of our one car. he helped them out. there was a small opening in the door and we were able to get out. >> so your car actually toppled over? >> yes. we were in the last car and it was on the side. >> what was going through your mind? >> this is a nightmare and it can't be happening. >> it's unclear if anyone is still left on that train. at least 50 people were transported to the hospital. the mayor saying most of the people and the fire commissioner there saying most of the people were self-evacuated.

at least 150 people walked off the train themselves. many of them are injure d. national transportation safety board will arrive in the morning. amtrak was on the scene saying the northeast corridor is shut down between new york and washington d.c. the mayor saying that everyone was there. the amtrak personnel, police, homeland security, septa, state police and the governor skeeping an eye on what's going on offering to give assistance in this absolute disastrous mess -- absolute disastrous mess. five people now died, six in critical condition. five people at least at this

hour. matthew wald, i want to get back to you. the gentleman who was talking about this particular area where this crash happened it appears to be a rail yard. not sure if that tells us anything but is there anything that they should read into that? >> trains can derail if there is a switch misaligned. if it's a rail yard there are switches but it's not really clear what's happening here. >> how tough will it be for it to match this manifest list? obviously they know everybody on board the train because it's all computerized now. most of the people on board.dep stopped. >> they may have more identity information. if you paid with a credit card. if you're a member of amtrak --

not literally a frequent flier club but they have got a loyalty system, they may have contact information on lots of these folks and presumably they picked up most of them and took them to a hospital for -- to be checked out to see what the extent of their injuries were. i don't know how much manpower they have on hand. the airlines have gotten pretty proficient with this. i don't know how amtrak is set up. >> mary, you have investigated accidents. when you hear the mayor and the officials on the scene say that one of their -- one of the cars was just ripped apart, the engine completely separated. one is perpendicular to the rest of the cars, talk to us about that.

>> well, and from the pictures, the one that is completely ripped apart, we can see it from the pictures in the last hour and a half. so many flash pliglights were fd on the very mangled car. one can sadly assume that that is probably where the deceased were. but they -- the location of the cars and the fact that one is perpendicular, you know, it does give us clues already and certainly we don't know the cause. but given that they had -- they ended up in that situation where they are perpendicular and it's very, very mangled, you know, that's not a slow derailment. you know, it's hard to estimate that kind of speed and it was headed into a curve. but that's an awful lot of damage if it was a slow moving train and it simply derailed the

track going around the curve. as soon as daylight hits and the ntsb are there, they will have clues almost immediately. the situation the scene you are showing where the one car is very mangled and perpendicular to the other, that's a little bit more than a derailment going around a curve. we will have to wait and see. i'm sure that the ntsb, as soon as it's daylight and they can get on the site will have a lot of information for us on the very first briefing. >> i want to bring in three of the passengers who were on the train. jeremy, daniel and jonna. i'm going to ask you guys, jeremy, tell me what you

experienced. what happened? >> daniel and i were sitting just adjacent to each other in two double seats and we were talking. i was eating, and next thing you know, the train starts doing funny things and then it just gradually gets worse and worse and just like chaos erupts and things start flying. phones, laptops, and then people. trays start flying. you hear bumping and like metal mangling. you know, but it happened so quickly, like you didn't even know what was going on. and the next thing i know, i look up and there's two people in the luggage rack above my head, two women got catapulted. i didn't even see it happen. i didn't even know. and the train was at like a 30 degree angle down where i was

and i was kind of like wedged into the window under the tray. and the bags, shoes, everything, just flown. complete chaos. when we got out, we saw the train and it looked like a pretzel. it was turned and twisted, and you know, it was -- wires were ripped out. there were electrical live wires. >> you said the train started acting funny. what do you mean? >> i think it was just -- we were -- daniel and i were on the last car, so i think by the time we felt anything it had already done what it was doing. we didn't know. you didn't know what happened. you just -- you didn't know. and all of the sudden you started feeling and you knew this train was derailing or something.

and you're just panicked. i was ducking for cover. but it was pretty much over by the time i figured anything out. >> you didn't know, did it start wobbling? i'm trying to figure out what you mean by acting funny? you couldn't tell at the time, you just knew that something was off? >> it was running normal. maybe fast, maybe not. i don't know. i know we got out of the gate late. we slowed down somewhere else. i don't know if they were trying to make up time. i have no idea if it was running any faster than normal. i do take the train pretty frequently. but, you know, it seemed fine and all of the sudden you hear noises and this and that and the train must have already started having problems. i think there were eight cars and i had just finished walking all the way back and forth, which i do to keep exercising on the train from sitting all the time. i sat down for about five

minutes. the first car must have already derailed by the time it got to the eighth car, you know, you know, it wasn't like, i could tell, i have no idea what happened. >> seven cars. we are told it was seven cars. >> seven. >> six of them overturned. okay. so where did you get on, jeremy? >> i think where it originated which was washington d.c. >> where did you get on? >> i got on in washington. >> and you were headed to new york city? >> yes, sir. >> yeah. can you put daniel on the phone? >> yes, i will put daniel on the phone. >> thank you, jeremy. >> no problem. >> daniel? >> hold on one second. >> daniel? >> hello. hi. >> hello. it's don lemon with cnn. you're live right now. you were on the train.

what happened? >> i must have been about six rows from the back of the train, everything was normal. and then major impact. by the time i had come to my senses i had been thrown to the floor in the aisle. it was chaos. chairs were flying around. people were flying around. bags. pretty chaotic. >> after a few seconds you come to your senses. it took a couple of minutes or a few minutes before anyone could get the back door open. and we all walked off from our carriage. everyone, there were a lot of people who clearly were injured.

people had bloodied faces. but there was no major injury on our carriage. we all walked off of the back. i ran towards the food compartment, which i could see on this side. and that was really a bunch of people who were stuck in there. conscious and talking. there was a lady running the food compartment who gave me a bag of ice, of ice to put on my eye. i cut my eye. she was pretty amazing for that. there wasn't really much i could do. i came off the back. we filed off the tracks. and that's it. >> and what happened when the

crews got there? before you answer that, i want to ask you, before this happened, did you hear anything? did you feel anything? the train start to wobble? was there an impact? >> nothing. absolutely nothing. until that second of impact, i felt nothing. i didn't think anything about speed, nothing. everything was normal. >> and then jeremy says all of the sudden when he came to his senses he saw people in the luggage wrarack. >> there were two people above our head in the luggage rack asking to be helped down. the chairs, i think they were in the middle to change directions so they had all come loose so people stuck behind chairs. we clearly caught the end of the lightest part of the impact. but at our end it was still

chaotic. but i have no idea what the front end looked like. >> hmm. so once the rescue people got there, what happened? >> i think it was just a bit of chaos as well. it looked like hundreds of emergency crews that had to cut through the fence. there must have been like ten minutes of impact by the time that one had arrived. there were cut cables hanging around. it was mayhem. it was calm mayhem. everyone was calm. everyone on the back of the compartment were pretty much okay. everyone seemed like they walked

off. there were ambulances, fire brigade, police, and the whole shebang. everyone was waiting. >> so daniel, if you can do me a favor, is jonna next to you? can you pass the phone to jonna please? >> sure. >> hello? >> hi. you're on cnn live. >> hi don. >> how are you? >> i'm all right. >> yeah. >> thank goodness. >> so tell me what happened. >> so i was sitting in the second to last car on the right side of the train in the aisle seat and reading a book. everything seemed normal. it felt like we were going too sharp around the curve and there was a jolt and immediately you could feel the train derail.

there was a wave of panic. i was thrown into the girl sitting next to me in the window seat as the train started to tip that way. people on the other side of the train started to fall on us but some people must have fallen above me because somebody's calf hit me in the side of the head. i was praying please make it stop. please make it stop. i felt like we were gliding along for a little while there and i don't know if it only felt that way and maybe it was only a few seconds but i was praying the train didn't tip any more. i was afraid we were going to fall all the way on our side. it finally stopped at a tilt and everyone was screaming. so i stood up. i realized i wasn't hurt, thank god. so immediately i was asking

everyone around me, are you okay? are you okay. are you still there? >> i'm here. i'm listening to you. >> okay. and there were some people lying on the floor. you couldn't tell if they were injured or just had been thrown and they were really shaken. it seemed like people immediately around me were okay. then i heard this loud bang iin and i went to the bathroom. the door was stuck. the metal must have been bent. i could hear people just outside near where the exit to that car would be. they were trying to bang something open. some guy had like a giant hammer. i told them there was somebody stuck in the bathroom. he was able to come and somehow bang on the lock and get that guy out. so i went back to my seat not

really knowing what to do, checking on people and finally i was like what am i doing? i was able to find my bag with my cell phone and i was helping people around me get off the train. there was one girl clearly having a panic attack and i held her and asked her name and got her off the train together. we exited to the back. >> and so your car didn't flip right? >> no. >> it didn't flip. >> can you standby? i need to get to someone but i want to come back to you if you can standby. i want to get to philadelphia mayor michael nutter. i saw your press conference where you said this was an absolute disastrous mess and you had never seen anything like it. >> i was down on the tracks.

some were upside down, the engine complete lly separated maybe 50 feet ahead of the other six cars. sit is a devastating scene and folks are saying and certainly myself have never seen anything like it before. some basic facts, 243 total individuals as best we know at the moment. all preliminary information. five were amtrak personnel and the others were passengers. unfortunately we have trains upside down and on their side so we're still investigating. ntsb is on their way to philadelphia and they have been fully activated. they have halted all investigations with regard to trains. full compliment, fire personnel who were in charge, police

department, homeland security, and other first responders, of course, amtrak, and all of those personnel. most people were able to literally walk off of the train. there were some transports. about 55 people transported. of those 55, six are reported in critical condition, but most others are with various injuries, bumps, bruises, etc. >> mayor, have you gotten everybody off the train? do you know? >> i cannot say that definitively only because we are still investigating. as i said, there are trains sideways, upside down, one split in half. our personnel have done a variety of sweeps and i can't say at this moment that everyone is off of those various train cars. >> mayor? >> the overwhelming majority are.

>> on that particular issue, there is no indication that there is quote unquote another train involved. we will wait for the investigators to get on the ground but there is no indication there was any other train involved but at the same time we don't know what happened. we will wait to get a full investigation before putting out any information on that. >> just before you came in, i'm sure you heard we had three passengers on and we were speaking to jana and she said that everything was normal. all three said everything was normal until it wasn't. she thought maybe it was going fast but there was no indication

of anything and all of the sudden chaos. >> i just can't even imagine what the passengers went through and quite frankly it was just great to hear their voices. i mean this is -- don, you know, i have been on that train many, many times coming out of washington. obviously going through to philadelphia. probably a 7 something p.m. train. but, you know, you know, i would be getting off at another station. but we don't know. nothing like this has ever happened in my memory. >> yeah. and you're right. i had to check myself. it bothered me more because philadelphia is considered one of my homes. it was the first place i had ever yoened a home.

>> so i mean we have tons of people up there. up here. all of the investigators, all the personnel. and really just, you know, waiting to assist the ntsb with their work and their expertise. but all other personnel still on the ground. everyone on the scene. and we will be here until we figure it out and make sure that we recover everyone that was on the train. >> mayor i will let you go but when can we expect another update? >> there might be something in the next half hour or 45 minutes. and we will let you all know. >> mayor michael nutter city of

pi fiphiladelphia dealing with thi horrific situation. >> thank you. >> five people dead, six are in critical condition. at least 65 transported to the hospital. some of -- most of those according to the mayor walked off of the train. at least 150 people walked off the train. they have no idea why this happened. how it happened and why. they are still trying to get information. but they said also the mayor saying they have no indication that there was any sort of impact with another train here. you heard several passengers who were on board the train saying everything was fine until it wasn't. one passenger said maybe they thought we were going around the curve really fast and that may have happened but it happened so quickly they didn't know what was going on and all of the sudden they were upside down, up turned to down and people inside the luggage racks and trying to get help. one man was trapped in the

bathroom. it is an unbelievable scene. i want to get to cnn sarah sidner now. >> reporter: we just arrived on the scene. there are about eight fire trucks flashing lights there are so many vehicles here to rescue and try to help the situation. it's amazing. this is rare. i have never seen so many all in one place. obviously we are just hearing from the mayor that there were seven cars that derailed. one of them split in half, the engine as well. i will step out of the shot so you can get some sense of this. if you're looking to the right of your screen, just beyond where these fire trucks are, there's a held continuer in the air that is over the actual scene of where the derailment is. we have got a lot of roads that are blocked off.

the residents are walking back and forth a bit stunned about what is going on in this neighborhood here in philadelphia. but there are a plethora of emergency vehicles waiting to help anyone who may still be inside. this train headed towards new york from washington d.c. a lot of people will take this commuter train. we are just waiting to see if we get more information as to if there are any other people who may be trapped on the derailed cars. we do now know that there are several fatalities. at least five people have died in this according to the mayor. there are about 50 people who have been injured though most

people were able to walk away with scrapes and bruises but this is a really hard day for commuters and the city of philadelphia and beyond, don. >> you bet ya. thank you sara sidner. it is 33 minutes after midnight on the east coast and we are dealing with the awful news coming from philadelphia. basically they are saying it was pretty routine and then all of the sudden chaos, all hell broke loose. >> it's not a story that the passengers haven't told before.

it's extraordinary to me how composed all three of them were and how well they handled what was clearly, you know, just a terrible situation. i'm always impressed with that. you know, i think we have discussed -- we're going to look at speed. there is an event recorder on the train. it will record how fast it was going. it will record whether the engineer applied brakes. they will match it up against the speed limit for the area. if it was crossing switching areas, they will look at whether there was any malfunctions on the switches. they will see that. that's a pretty easy determination to make. i think that the team will have something important to say by tomorrow night or the next day

afterwards. when these things happen, you mobilize, you get ready. some of them are on the way to the scene if not already there. this is going be a very important investigation for the future of am tratrak, i think. >> i want to update you on the folks that were taken to the hospital. eistein hospital telling us that three patients have been discharged. i want to bring in director of communications for american red cross in eastern pennsylvania and he joins us now by phone. how are you helping, sir? >> as you can imagine. we set up a reception desk at webster element on the 3400

block of frankford avenue. just finding a place to gather thoughts if they're not out

what that that is what we're here for to alleviate. we want to make everyone calm and we can reach out and tell their loved ones where they're out so they can find them. at a central location. >> what's next? what are you telling them? are you helping them get in touch with people? are you helping them get hotels? >> we're going to work through the night with anyone that shows up. letting people know that they are okay. but i have to say, i am, as a resident of the philadelphia, i am proud of our city. there are first responders everywhere doing amazing job

throughout the night. it's -- it's such a tragic situation. it's such a powerful movement of everybody coming together and working together so strongly. >> anthony tornetta, thank you so much. and it's good to have folks like you from the red cross to help out in situations like this. the red cross always comes through. >> you as well. five dead at least. amtrak derailment in philadelphia just north, in the northeast part of philadelphia. the frankford section. the train was en route to new york city. supposed to arrive in new york city 10:34. that train derailed. we are told at least five people have died. six in critical condition. about 53 people transported to the hospital and about 150 people, about 150 people got off the train themselves. we are told that there were

several people who were trapped and they had to bring in hydraulics to get the people out of the train. the mayor said that the engine was completely separated from the car. there was one car that was parallel to the other cars and in his words, he said this was an absolute disastrous mess. never seen anything like this in my life. five dead from an accident there. back with breaking news in just moments. it's the purple pill. the #1 prescribed acid blocking brand. available without a prescription for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protectiontm. well, a mbe a problem,dn't your credit is in pretty good shape. >>pretty good? i know i have a 798 fico score, thanks to the tools and help on experian.com. kaboom... well, i just have a few other questions. >>chuck, the only other question you need to ask is,

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>> breaking news, you are watching live coverage of a terrible train crash tonight in philadelphia. northbound amtrak train 188 en route from washington d.c. to new york happened around 9:38 tonight. five people are confirmed dead, 243 people on board the train including five amtrak employees. there were seven cars including the engine that were completely derailed from the train. 200 police, 120 fire personnel on the scene and that's along with the mayor and police chief. the philadelphia mayor michael

nutter says he has never seen anything like this in his life. amtrak are asking people if you have questions about friends or family members on board the train you should call this number, 1-800-523-9101. that picture you're seeing on your screen now that's where sara sidner is with the very latest. sara? >> reporter: we're actually standing on the tracks that have been closed now because of this derailment. we can see the scene very clearly now although we cannot see all the way around the bend, you can certainly see three of them that are definitely askew looking like they have been flipped over on their side one of them. we can see several what looks like investigators who are looking at the tracks themselves. clearly the investigation is also underway, the rescue mission as well. you can see lots of rescue

trucks just below us on the bridge under where we are in this neighborhood here. we are northeast of downtown. checking on the tracks, looking in the cars and we're getting quite a good view here. it's eerie in a sense that there is absolutely no traffic on these particular tracks. a lot of folks use this as a commuter train from washington too new york. we know they have stopped all service at this time. obviously that train still there block those tracks there. it was on its way to new york from washington d.c. we also know obviously that there are fatalities now the mayor has talked about five people who have died in this accident. we know there were 243 people on

the amtrak train, five crew members and the rest passengers. most of them did walk off of the train and were able to get out. up to 50 people potentially injured. six people critically. seven cars were affected in this as far as being completely derailed. some of them were on their sides. one that looks as though it was split in half. it's a terrible scene. we were talking to one neighbor who said it was an awful sound that made him grind his teeth it was so loud. and he knew something was wrong. and they see trains come and go all the time. . there is a lot of concern in the neighborhoods. of course there are family and

friends wanting to know what happened to their loved ones. at least 15 people we're told from the red cross are waiting to get word on their loved ones. this is an incredibly bad scene to see the train in the state that it is in, mangled as it is and to know that there have been people who have died because of the accident. >> i want you to standby, sara. i want you to leave that picture up while we bring? mary schiavo. >> it does but it doesn't. they are intently looking at turns. if this is the point exactly where it did go off the track and it appears that it is, there is no obvious break. i remember a few years ago. and the track had an obvious

bend in it. and the heat had done it. fl is no obvious break. no point where it looks like sabota sabotage. it is a very sharp turn. people who take this train know what it should feel like. she said that it felt fast going into the turn. if there's something else going on bad vibration, bad alignment, problems with the wheels and an axle, so far with the flashlights on the track there is no obvious point where it's

out of alignment or broken and there is still searching intently. they are still going up and down the tracks. but i don't see any breaks. >> i need you to take another look. i will put up another picture, mary and see what you can glean from this. this is from the philadelphia inquirer. you can see the wheels. >> all right. oh. yeah. well, i can't tell anything about the cause from that. but obviously this is, you know, this is a terrible mangling of this car. and ordinarily when you see something like this, i'm going to talk about prior train accidents because we don't know what happened here. but ordinarily when you see something like this it's either

a pretty high speed kind of situation or a situation where something has hit the train. this is the appearance with a tractor trailer accident which is not present here. by tomorrow morning as soon as the ntsb downloads those train black boxes they will have the speed of the train and all the controls on the train, they have where -- this is not a situation that would be significant in this accident but they have when the train moves rails. that black box is very much like an airplane black box. by the afternoon the ntsb will know. the mangling of that car looks like a fairly high speed

derailment from accidents in the past. don't know anything about this one yet. >> an absolute disastrous mess in philadelphia tonight. we're back with our breaking news coverage. don't go anywhere.

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and there is, it looks like a metal bar that went through the train. mary, it could possibly be a piece of the track. mary schiavo, are you seeing this picture? >> i am. it could be a piece of the track but we also see, there is a part of the track missing under this particular train. it could very well be a piece of the track but the devastation to this car, other than situations where something has hit the train on the track such as a semi truck or something like that, this is for a derailment, this is an awful lot of damage to that car. i do see that the rail is torn up there but the damage to that

car is so extensive. it looks different from other derailments we have seen. >> i think it was matthew that pointed out it was within the city limits. but didn't have time really to pick up speed as it would in an area that is not so congested. but look at that track. >> you can see that it's torn up and ripped apart by the force of that train. the ties are out of it. if it's leaving the city in some ways the speed limit is a bit of a misnomer. if it's leaving the city but it's not crossing traffic, then you can have a surprisingly good clip of speed, you know? trains in many parts of the country, trains are a lot like service transportation.

the speed limit is 65 mile answer hour there are places where it's 80 miles an hour. for places where there's no reason to restrict the speed of the train, the speed limit could be high even though it's going through the city if it doesn't meet other traffic or there's no congestion, etc. if it's not a situation where it's crossing traffic, it does not have the require tomt blow its horn, either. there could be noise restrictions. but given the damage to the car and the damage to the track, i think that the train was going based on other accidents, not this one, we don't know, but it looks like a higher speed kind of a derailment. >> mary, i want to get to sara sidner at the scene are you seeing people inspect the train? >> reporter: we are seeing people inspect the track over and over and over again. they seem to be on the curve

where the track does a fairly severe turn. and we see investigators, first they walked up and down it a couple of times and now it looks like they are taking flashlights and looking at every single bit of the track that curves around there. and at the end of that you will see the last car that is derailed. it's totally askew and on its side. it appears that they are really taking a good look at this curve, for some reason. i am sure we will get more information later on in the evening. we know the ntsb is on its way. the fbi has said they don't believe that terrorism had anything to do with this at this point. you can definitely see the investigators taking a very good look at the track. we are seeing them walk up and down the track over and over and over again. >> thank you very much. i want to give you an update now.

we are talking about a low tall hospital that has -- jefferson who had three and another has treated 30 patients and those patie patients have minor injuries. repeat again please? jefferson hospital now updating us. treated 26 patients and the majority with minor injuries as well. so we have two hospitals there also in the area close to 30 patients, both of them saying that they have treated those people and that they are minor injuries. now five people dead, most of the people, again, walked away from this train. five people dead, six in critical condition this evening and considering the extent of this damage to the train, man, it could have been much worse. this is an awful situation that happened in philadelphia. the mayor saying this is an

absolute disastrous mess. he has never seen anything like this in his life and i can say the same thing. i have never seen anything like this. this all happened as we came on the air at 10:00 p.m. eastern. we have been with you here for three hours. i will see you tomorrow. our live coverage continues. i will see you tomorrow. >> we would like to welcome our viewers in the united states and all around the world. >> we are following breaking news right now out of the united states. take a look at this video right here. an amtrak passenger train has derailed in philadelphia. we know that so far at least five people are dead. we are hearing that at least seven of the train cars have turned over on to the side. one of those cars actually split in half. the mayor saying that he has never seen anything like it. this is the northeast regional train 188, traveling northbound from washington to new yo