at the preakness stakes, and up next, the belmont on june 6th. >> can't watch those. they make me nervous. "inside politics" starts next. john berman sitting in today. >> is jeb bush really ready to run? an iraq war question leads to the latest hickup for the former governor and an attempt at damage control. >> knowing what we know now, what would you have done, i would not have gone into iraq. >> the gop 2016 pack piles on. >> the new jersey governor is back, and despite trailing his republican counterparts, he says don't write him off just yet. >> my political obituary has been written many times before

so we take our chances. >> and the break from president obama over the transpacific trade deal, but he has new friends to keep him company. >> i would like to thank the president, too. no, you are not hearing things. president obama has done us service. welcome to "inside politi politics," i am john berman in today. we have our guests. in case you have not noticed, running for president is hard, even if you are not actually officially legally running yet. just ask jeb bush. by now he would probably be glad to answer any question other

than would you have gone to war in iraq knowing what you know now? he said yes, and then it was time for damage control. >> i admired the men and women, mostly men, that made the ultimate sacrifice. so going back in time and talking about hypothetical what would have happen and what could have happened, i think does a disservice for them. >> so no hypotheticals, try again. >> of course, you know, given the power of looking back and having that, of course anybody would have made different decisions. there is no denying that, but to delve into that and focus on the future is where i think i need to draw the line. >> and the yes had crossed the line to become a no. >> if we are all supposed to answer hypothetical questions, knowing what we know now, what would you have done, i would not have engaged or gone into iraq.

>> so knowing what we know now, would you say this represents a serious stumble for the jeb bush campaign? is it a stumble and how serious? >> we are still early in the process and i think governor bush has time to recover. but this has shown his political rust, and he is adjusting to the rapid pace of politics today, and he is also really grabbling with the legacy of his brother, and how does he not distance himself from his family and still use their network and cast himself as his own man? >> since you brought up his brother, and let me play you one thing he had to say about his brother and father and being part of the bush family? >> i am not going to go out of my way to say, you know, that my brother or dad did this wrong, and it's not going to happen. i love my family a lot. >> is this a bush family thing

or is this an iraq thing? >> is there a difference? >> there might be. he thought it was a bush family thing, and i will not put distance between me and my brother, when it's a issue that matters to a lot of people. >> you are on to something. you can listen to his voice and resent that he is being put on the bush family couch, and he said i am not going to let you play psychologist, and then you are going to go and write bush stories, and that was understandable. it was not understandable, after days and days of this, when it's clearly a problem and everybody has opponents saying of course we would not have gone in, he still would not do it, and the larger problem, he just does not want to relitigate this stuff, but he is going to have to because he is the younger

brother of the last gop president. it's a fact. >> i am getting notes from insiders, from party people saying they are concerned, this race is a concern amongst them that jeb may not be running the team very well and the truck khur may not be in place to handle situations like this. >> that was the thing here, why wasn't he prepared for the basic question that he knew he was not going to get it, and it took him four or five times, and they dealt with it but if he runs in 2016, you will see ads, one answer here and another answer there. i do sympathize with jeb bush in this way because it must be hard to run against your brother, the psychological drama of running against your brother, somebody you might not be close to but you are also close to and you love them and have had disagreements with him, and that's hard and this is what he signed up for and this is what he has to do. >> it's a little more

complicated because he brought in advisers and backers and supporters and shapers of what is going to be his platform, many of those folks supported the war in iraq. that adds a degree of complication for him. >> it helps marco rubio. the senator is casting himself as the gop future, and rush limbaugh was raving about rubio this week, and they are forgetting the immigration problems from 2013 for rubio, and bush's stumble reiterates by rubio and other contenders like scott walker might have appeal. >> maybe marco rubio might be the person to say i move us beyond iraq, and this was sort of the first candidate feeding frenzy. they smelled the blood in the water and all jumped in. >> and you all saw them, chris

christie, for example, saying let me be clear, this is what i would have done. you have not seen them so ready to go out and attack jeb bush, and they have in some ways, and they say i am not from a family of a famous last name, and they do smell blood in the water, and you keep hearing rubio and walker and maybe the sense that jeb is too rusty, and didn't seem comfortable out there. >> he fixed? >> well, the pwauder issue is still there. they were nazot seizing on the iraq opportunity, and that's why i think you see all the candidates gleefully this we can get all over bush. >> let's talk about chris christie for a second right here. he is still considering a run,

and he had a fascinating interview last week with jay tapper, and his wife was there, too, and she talked in interesting terms about the excitement level for this campaign. let's listen to what she said? >> it's disappointing when you have thraupbgz of people encouraging you to do this, and maybe the enthusiasm as crazy as it was. >> that's remarkably candid from the wife of somebody running for candidate, saying the enthusiasm isn't what it used to be. seems like what she was saying is the fierce urgency of now was then. >> he is clearly not ready to hang it up, and i think he sees an opportunity with jeb's stumble to get back into new hampshire, and it's difficult. we did polling about how the race looks in new hampshire, and it's a four-way race. it's not chris christie.

he can use this opportunity and make the most out of it and we will see him tomorrow, monday. >> you think he could be a town meeting guy, go there and gets people excited at a small level. >> i spent time with him recently on the trail with him, and you see christie, and he overwhelms voters and donors with livliness and his personality. just the kind of candidate the republicans were looking for a few years ago, and he is still plagued by the scandals, and you will have more indictments and trials for his former aides. >> who tells him, if it is over, if he doesn't have a real chance, how does that play out? who says to him, governor christie, it's not happening? >> i think you played a clip of that person. his long-time political adviser, and they see a fluid race and

they see jeb as more vulnerable than expected, and they say what many say over the years, why not me? >> what you are saying is, i have a chance? sit tight. next, the great divide, not among republicans but the new one among democrats. first, and politicians say the darnedest things. >> if she wins the nomination, she has to win the election, and if she wins the election, the chances are 100% i will be asked back.

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what a break between the white house and the elizabeth warren wing of the democratic party. >> the issue with respect to myself and elizabeth, it has never been personal. some are my best friends in the senate as well as in the house, and some of my earliest supporters that disagree with me on this. >> and those friends took warren's side, or some may say, elizabeth's side, and so the micro issue here has been solved, the senate will vote on the trade issue here, and what about the macro issue, they those democrats left the president now? >> this has been a slow-moving train, right, since 2009.

two things work. labor and obama started out slow. and he is free from the constraints of having to run from re-election or having to keep democrats in power now, and what he is doing he thinks is right, and on the warren issue, there is nothing personal, but kind of there is, because you remember she stood up to the consumer protection board, and she had to remake herself and things have been tense since then. >> somebody watching this fight, who is pretty interesting, and that's hillary clinton. a lot of people saying, hey, what do you think about all this? >> her silence is deafening on the trade deal. she is on the record supporting hit when she was secretary of state, but now she does not want to get crosswise with the organized labor, and with the left more broadly by coming out for it, and that has put the president in a tough spot, and a

lot of democrats in the more moderate establishment are getting anxious about her silence. >> we will talk about her overall silence at greater length in a minute, but her silence on this issue, does she have to take a stand and how perilous is it for her? >> yeah, they have said, listen, they will comment on this once the whole thing is done, and until then they feel like they can stay on the sidelines, and whether or not that is true we will have to see. they are also worried about not only being crosswised with the warren wing, which used to be the obama wing of the democratic party, and they are worried about being crossways with obama, and not seen as giving him political cover as well, and it's a tricky situation for her and we will have to see what she says next week in iowa, and this

is between warren and obama for her, and that's the tightrope she will have to walk. >> and she doesn't say much about anything, and she doesn't take campaign-type issues, and jeb bush is critical of how little she has been saying. >> that's all part of the process. you can't script your way to the presidency and put yourself in a protective bubble and never interact with people, and only talk to people that totally agree with you and have it scripted out, that's not going to work. >> does she need to be taking questions from us, actual people, or is it smart to be in the bubble right now? >> as a political athlete to get ready for the general election she needs to get into fighting shape for whoever the republican candidate will be, and you have warren on the sidelines, and martin o'malley is not in the race yet, so she is not under

real pressure yet. >> you think she will take them. >> she is running a disciplined campaign, picking her spots and talking about what she wants to talk about whether it's small business in iowa this coming week or just really talking about what she says, everyday americans, and recasting herself as a regular person. >> she does know these everyday americans are not tuning in right now, and they are not going to be angry because she is not taking questions from people like us, and this is a press story in some ways, and you see bush jump in on the idea that she is not taking questions, and at some point she will have to get out there, but for now people are not tuned in. >> and some democrats wondering why she is not doing more of that, too, and some think it could help her in terms of getting out her message, for example, when she was in nevada doing immigration news two weeks ago, why not while you are out there, do an interview with some

spanish language network. they are playing a cautious version of politics right now, and it's not hurting her but raising buzz. >> it makes people like us upset, people like us, the press, and isn't her problem, one of her big problems, people like us, doesn't she need to work the media to a certain extent more than she is? >> in the long term, yes. and jeb's stumble on iraq has been good for her on two levels, and maybe you can't script everything but when you just say what you are thinking, uh, right? and then when you have the legacy of your family, bill clinton and nafta and george bush in iraq. if you sit all the way through a primary with not comparable competition, if you get into the general if you are not running against the guy with the other

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"inside politics" table and ask them to share a nugget from their notebooks. >> there is buzz about the first ladies club, and it's michelle obama. she sent out a note to the dnc's mailing list, and the problem is she hates campaigning, and that is well known, but there is a wildcard in this, and that's the woman who works for michelle obama and now works for hillary clinton, and that is the prospect of extending her husband's legacy as well. the summer straw poll in august, and we know that jeb bush is not going to be

competing there and we are waiting to hear if scott walker will or won't compete there, but what do compete meets? what i understand, candidates like marco rubio may show up to speak there at the event because there will be thousands of activists they want to reach, but i am told rubio, at least, absolutely positively will not spend phupb krae to bus supporters there, so competing there, what does that mean? does that mean actually spending money or showing up to speak? important difference. >> setting the bar very low. margaret? >> keep your eye on obama unfiltered. he hinted things would be different, and this year it's the fourth quarter, and things get interesting in the fourth quarter and we start to see it in his rhetoric, and you see it as calling warren out as any other politicians, and you saw it on race issues, talking about

poverty and everything from the pain of his own father leaving to what he thinks about how fox news feels about poverty, and you are seeing him in sports, deflategate, and i am looking ahead to next week as soon as tomorrow when the president is in camden, new jersey, and having a visit to policing community programs, and he is talking more frankly about how he thinks and feels. >> interesting. >> robert? >> i spoke with john bolton and he decided not to run for president, and he gave me a hint about what he is going to do in the coming months during the primary, and he is going to spend 6 to $7 million to make sure his hawkish perspective gets out there.

and he has a different kind of relationship with hillary clinton, and he was a classmate of clinton's at yale law school, and he called her a radical in our conversation and he thinks he will make that point in ads this fall. >> bolton not running is a good segue about who is running, and we expect rick perry and santorum and others to have made their presidential candidacies clear. what they have in common? not many people give them a chance. and i interviewed santorum about his campaign and i spent a big part of the interview showing that he didn't have a chance. less than two months later he won iowa, and for a time he was a genuine threat to take the nomination. he had a chance. i was wrong and learned that perhaps we should see how they

run before we call the race. candidates, lace up those shoes and have at it. that's all for "inside politics." thanks for sharing your sunday morning with us. "state of the union" starts right now. the u.s. deals a major blow to isis and a new mystery in the deadly amtrak train crash. this is "state of the union." u.s. troops take out a top isis leader, and congressman paul ryan sides with president obama, and senator bernie sanders on his run for the presidency, and jeb bush's rough week on the campaign trail. good morning from washington. i am brianna keilar, and right now u.s. officials are looking at a treasure trove on new information about how isis operates. this after a daring raid by the u.s. that left