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here on cnn. >> remember you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me @wolfblitzer. join us once again tomorrow on "the situation room." dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. "erin burnett outfront" starts now. olt ott next breaking news the white house tonight under fire over its strategy to defeat isis. the president and his national security team met today. my guest, former cia director general michael hayden plus 170 men charged in the deadly biker gang shootout in texas. police say they're not cooperating. we have new details about the massacre. "outfront" tonight, the former leader of hel's angels. and one man's hunt for the endangered black rhino. we went on the hunt and saw that kill. let's go "outfront."
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good evening. i'm erin burnett. i begin tonight "outfront" with the breaking news. the white house tonight under fire for its isis strategy as the terror group is pushing ever closer to baghdad. the president meeting with his national security team today. we're just learning the details of the meeting. we'll have much more on that ahead. i want to show you these significant gains isis is making at these hours. the terrorists who already control crucial towns on this map, including full lugea and ramadi are now moving even closer to baghdad. they have caught ramadi as a bloody year-long battle. a significant victory for the terror group. many questions tonight about how the united states could let this happen. >> we know that hope is not a strategy. the president's plan isn't working. >> a lot of american blood was shed over ramadi and to have it in the hands of isis is hard to characterize as other than a major setback.
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>> jim acosta is "outfront" tonight. how is the white house responding to this heavy criticism? because it is heavy criticism. >> it's coming in from all sides, erin. the president responded by meeting with his national security team today on the battle against isis. that meeting was only scheduled to include defense secretary ash carter and involved every national security official you can think of from the vice president to the secretary of state to the cia director director of national intelligence and even though the white house is calling the terrorist group's capture of ramadi over the weekend a, quote, setback, officials say they're not conducting an official review of the strategy for defeating isis but they're looking for options for an iraqi-led mission to retake ramadi and pressed on the mounting bipartisan criticism of the president's strategy. josh earnest lashed out at all the second guessing. >> are we going to let our hair
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on fire every time there is a setback in the campaign against isil or are we going to take seriously our responsibility to evaluate the areas where we succeed and evaluate where steps are necessary to change the strategy where we sustained setbacks? >> the white house is not 234dicating any u.s. ground forces will be going into anbar provis. white house officials say the assistance will come in the form of more air strikes in ramadi. earnest did point out there have been past battles where the u.s.-led coalition racked up successes only after questions were raised about the president's strategy. but erin no question about it with all these questions about the president's strategy keep in mind susan rice said in an interview with usa today, she things it will be a long slog in iraq. that conjured up memories when donald rumsfeld said the war in iraq in 2003 was going to be a long hard slog. the white house was also tripping on its message today. >> thank you very much jim
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acosta. >> the white house is tripping on its message, isis is forging ahead, making gains in iraq and of course beyond those borders. barbara starr is out front from the pentagon. >> isis gaining ground. not only in the key city of ramadi just miles from baghdad, but in libya, tunisia, and syria. tens of thousands are now on the run in iraq. fleeing ramadi from isis' brutal takeover. hundreds may have already been killed. >> one of the most horrific aspects of this of course is as these isis fighters went through the town they massacred children wives of the townspeople. >> less than 70 miles from baghdad, ramadi extends isis' influence. former defense secretary bob gates. >> i think that it is a serious loss. >> some iraqi troops had to be air lifted out of the city. >> police are abandoned
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positions one area after another. >> in the end, there was no help from the central government in baghdad. >> the iraqi army didn't have a good sense of what was happening in the city. clearly, the islamic state had been making inroads over the proceeding weeks and months and ramadi was a foundation rotting from within. >> shia militiamen are gathering outside of ramadi for a possible counterattack. sunni tribes are asking for arms. despite ramadi the white house is insisting they are making progress. >> as with any military effort there will be days of progress and there are going to be periods of setback. >> trending in the wrong direction, libya. which isis continues to use as a safe haven, and where there is no reliable partner to help fight isis on the ground. there's no word yet if any fresh intelligence that was gained during that weekend raid in syria against that isis
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commander and his wife. the u.s. clearly hoping to find out more about what isis is up to but right now, it's pretty evident isis is moving ahead and as you have pointed out, erin in places far beyond iraq and syria. >> thank you very much barbara starr. and "outfront" tonight, retired general michael hayden the former director of both the cia and the nsa, general, great to have you with us as always. >> thanks, erin. >> you have this criticism coming from every corner as the white house is scrambling having these meetings. secretary of state john kerry said he's quote, absolutely confident the isis victory in ramadi will be reversed in the days ahead. again, his words. you have accused the administration before of not recognizing isis for what they are. is the white house doing that again with the john kerry saying i'm absolutely confident, don't worry, we'll take it back in coming days? >> i think the secretary of state's comments have no foundation in reality. i don't think the iraqi government will be able to mount
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a force anytime in the foreseeable future to recapture the town but erin it gets even worse than that. if they do recapture the town we're almost certainly going to use shia militia as the spearhead, the bulk of the force they used to take over an overwhelmingly sunni town. that's not a solution. that's actually part of the problem. and will make the situation even worse over the longterm so i agree with secretary gates. politically, psychically and militarily a very serious thing. >> you mentioned secretary gates. and he was one of those accusing the white house of not having a strategy. there were a lot of accusations, as you know today, and it wasn't just the former defense secretary. it was the top democrat and the top republican in congress. take a listen. >> we know that hope is not a strategy strategy. the president's plan isn't working. >> we don't have a strategy at all. we're basically sort of playing this day to day.
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>> and i'll quote the top democrat in the house intelligence committee. this morning he said quote, i don't think we're making tremendous progress. and he continued to say, when you hear the administration's description of progress in his words, quote, alarm belling should be going off. do you agree with john boehner and secretary gates that this administration does not have a strategy? >> well first of all, i think secretary gates' comment was there's no strategy against isis overall. i agree with that. there's absolutely no strategy that i can recognize in syria. there's an outline of a coherent strategy in iraq but erin it's been underresourced and overregulated. we have not committed enough power to this. and the forces we have in the theater are so constrained, what power they have they can't bring to bear. >> so when you say the united states hasn't committed enough power in iraq what are you saying? are you saying -- basically, i mean what i'm reading into it
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is training iraqi security forces or relying on them doesn't work. special forces isn't enough. are you going so far as to say the u.s. need more combat troops on the ground? >> i'm certainly not calling for large maneuver units back into the western iraqi desert again or retaking anbar province. there are a lot of things we can do. first of all, we have an artificial ceiling on the number of american troops we can have in iraq around 3,000. it is a level of effort rather than a strategy or an operational plan based upon the effects we want to create. so we artificially limit the number of troops and then we don't allow those troops to do things that actually would help. number one, be in iraqi units to stiffen them. be with the forward line of iraqi troops to call in precise air attacks. use special operations forces more often than we have. like the raid against sif last
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weekend. >> i know you don't want to be asked a specific number of troops. it's not a maybe exact number but when you say there's an artificial ceiling of 3,000, how many more do you think are needed? you were looking at 100 plus thousand in the iraq war. what are you talking? what is the number this country needs to consider putting in? >> about six months ago, i was trying to game out where we would be and i was basing it not on an artificial political cap but what my sense would be. i'm not privy to the planning but what my sense would be is to what an american force would look like to have enough to make a difference. the number i hit was in the range of 5,000 to 10,000. more important than that it's what they're allowed to do. right now, they're not allowed to do a whole lot. >> and 5,000 to 10,000. all right, which would be at the low end double what the president has said he would put in. i want to ask you one other crucial question because this talks about isis its threat to the american homelandads well as
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other threats from terror to the united states. the white house said today, letting surveillance legislation lapse in congress would pose a risk to national security. rand paul told cnn today about the patriot act, which the nsa, which you used to run, uses to authorize the collection of data. here's senator paul. >> i plan on doing everything humanly possible to try to stop the patriot act. >> of course you've endorsed jeb bush for president. if he runs so i want to be clear on that. but i would imagine on this one, general hayden you agree with the white house. we need the surveillance. >> we definitely need the surveillance surveillance. the difference between me and the white house, the white house is currently supporting the usa freedom act that would, i think, significantly curtail the kind of surveilants that nsa is allowed to do right now. but in any event, the white house is saying for god's sake don't let it lapse. what a time erin to kind of on an act of faith, give up a program after the kind of things
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we've seen isis do not just in the middle east but motivate people to do here in the homeland. >> all right, general hayden thank you very much. as always we appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. >> all right, former head of the cia and the nsa with tough words for the white house, as you heard him saying john kerry's views had no foundation in reality. "outfront" next hillary clinton finally answering reporters' questions after a month of photo ops. how did she handle questions about e-mails and the iraq war? plus as texas police are struggling with 170 uncooperative prisoners, we have new details tonight about the deadly shootout between rival biker gangs, and our cameras were there when an american went on the hunt to kill an endangered black rhino in africa. he says he did it to save the species. you're going to see this hunt and you're going to see it only here.
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hillary clinton breaking her silence. she finally answered a few questions from the mead utoday after dodging for literally just about a month. addressing the private e-mail address she used while secretary of state. >> i have said repeatedly i want those e-mails out. nobody has a bigger interest in
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getting them released than i do. i want them out as soon as they can get out. >> the state department initially said it could take until next january to release all 55,000 pages of e-mail we should note of course for the secretary of state submitted work related e-mails. she chose to delate other e-mails which she said classified as personal. jeff zeleny is "outfront" from cedar falls, iowa. she said she wants the e-mails to be released but it's her team that selected them. it's e-mails they think are relevant. of course she would want them released. >> no question erin. she does want them released. they did select them and they printed them out. that's where there are some 55,000 pages of e-mails the state department is going through, trying to catalog them. of course she wants them out because they decided these were the ones that were relevant. but she also wants them out for a political reason. she wants to move this issue off the table so it's not dogging her everywhere she goes.
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if the e-mails were not released until january of 2016 two weeks before the iowa caucuses launch the presidential process, that would certainly not be good for her. the reality is this is just one of the batches of e-mails. there are going to be a few hundred benghazi-related e-mails released soon i'm told but so many e-mails she deemed private that will never be released. this issue is going to hang over her campaign for the foreseeable future. >> and she finally broke her silence, jeff where you are, to the press. that's kind of what's incredible here. she hasn't spoken in what 27 this is the districth day. did she put this issue to rest? >> she's not taking questions from reporters in 28 days. she is taking questions from voters and these private settings but they're not unscripted questions and answers. so i think for the short term she did put the issue to rest. you know, she answered questions
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about the clinton foundation the contributions for that about the e-mails, about her speaking fees a few other things. look erin this is just the beginning of the process of answering questions. it's not the end of the process. she knows that more than anyone else. she has run for president before. the reason she answered the questions today, it was threatening to overtake her message entirely so she popped the balloon a little bit. this is hardly the end, and she knows that better than almost anyone. i suspect that we'll see her answering a lot more questions. i'm not sure if it will be tomorrow in chicago or friday in new hampshire. she can't run for president and not answer questions. >> especially when you have everyone answering them much to their detriment recently. thanks very much. "outfront" now, chief strategist for the republican committee, shaun spicer and brad woodhouse, which is a pro hillary clinton super pac. brad you just heard jeff zeleny
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reporting. he said after about a month, the 28th day, clinton was under pressure to take questions from the media. the washington post had a clock counting the minutes since she answers a question the morning shows all questioned it. >> the other big question seems to be when hillary clinton will take questions from the press. >> clinton is keeping her distance from the press. avoiding questions for the past three weeks. >> she hasn't answered a question from a reporter in twalth days now. despite the fact she is followed by a pack of journalists everywhere she goes. >> brad, why did she have to be pressured? why not take reporter questions for a month? >> first of all, i don't think she was pressured into doing it. i think she made a strategic decision. the interesting thing about the package you showed is it was just reporters who were carping about her not taking questions. i haven't seen a single voter interviewed saying oh, my god, she's not taking questions from the press.
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she's out there talking to real people. i saw a column yesterday by a journalist here in washington who said who cares if she's talking to real people? i was amazed erin that there's this sense that a politician is only accountable to the press and not to the voters. i have been very impressed with her campaign very impressed with her ability to go out in there and engage with the voters. and by the way, the countdown clocks or the countup clocks can be cut off now because she did take questions from the press today. >> she did take a few. shaun, do you buy that answer? you must at least respect it. i am sure you would be giving the same answer if it was your candidate. >> no i don't think i would feel a little embarrassed, to be honest with you. the idea of answering the questions from the press becomes breaking news that people to stop and interrupt is sad when it looks at what their campaign is. further, i take issue with the idea he's talking to real voters. as jeff pointed out in the piece before there's no real
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interaction. everything down to the crudutay she has to have and the water is all scripted. it's a made for hollywood campaign where every interaction is with people who were prechosen and answers that were preasked. >> let me ask you the point about the e-mails. one of the reasons the press had a lot of questions is because there are a lot of questions she needs to answer which she acknowledged. she said i want those e-mails out there. let me put this fundamental question to you which i still don't think has been answered. she wants the e-mails out, but these are e-mails she and her team self-selected. she admitted she deleted a bunch of others and it is sort of a trust me they were about yoga and my daughter's wedding. how is anyone ever going to know? >> you could ask the same question of every person who has ever been in the federal government. every person who archives e-mails in the federal government gets to decide what they archive and what they don't
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archive. >> that not true. that's not true. >> shaun, it is absolutely true. >> i have worked in the federal government brad and that's not true. >> it's been fact checked over and over again. she had an abobligation to turn over what she believed were work related e-mails. she turned over 55,000 e-mails. what is the benghazi committee doing? they're politicizing this. they want to drag it out all the way up to the election because they want to do what the terrible and awful clown show of republican candidates can't do on their side. they want to try to defeat her. >> go ahead. >> the reality is she personally chose the e-mails that she wanted and then printed them out on paper. there's no electronic trail. no forensic accountability to this and deleted the server. this is unbelievable that she's basically saying of course she wants them out. they're the hand-picked e-mails she printed on paper and handed
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over, just read these. trust me, there's nothing in them. >> what's your response? >> a news flash for shaun. what he just described is exactly what jeb bush did as governor of the state of florida. he had a private e-mail server in his office. he decided which e-mails he turned over to archives. he did it years after he was required do by law, and the rest of the e-mails he classified as personal and he did not turn over. this is not -- look -- >> i like the fact -- >> you may want to argue about the issue. >> don't bring up the issue. you talk about her being honest and open. >> go ahead, shaun. finish your question. >> it's about being transparent. i think the idea she's out there talking about how transparent she is and brad shifts the subject. where is the server why isn't it turned over? where are the e-mails. news flash when she won't talk to the press is ironic. news flash, talk to the news.
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>> she's met the obligation she had under the law. look you want to change the laws? she met the obligation. >> the reason people don't trust the clintons is because they set their own standard. they can't be trusted. they decide what rules. >> shaun, finish and then brad gets the last word. >> i just think the bottom line is this. the clintons decide what rules they're going to follow how they're going to follow them and tell everyone else that's what you get. we're a nation of laws. we have rules we all follow. the reason people don't trust hillary clinton is because she picks and chooses what she will follow not what the rules are for everyone else. >> okay brad. final word. >> here's the problem for shaun in the last comment. is that they have gone after this for six weeks or a month. the benghazi committee has consistent the republicans and the ben zazi committee have consistently leaked this information. it hasn't damaged her in the polls. she's in good shape in the primaries in the general election, and before it's over with republicans are going to
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have 20 republican candidates all at 5% in the polls. that's what's going on on their side. and that's why they want to focus on hillary clinton. >> i'll leave it there. i'll look forward to a rematch. thanks to both. "outfront" next the biker gang massacre. we're looking right now, showing you live pictureoffs police removing weapons right now, including guns and bullet proof vests in the cars in the parking lot where the shootout happened. these people literally had bullet proof vests. my guest, the former leader of the hell's angels. >> plus one man's hunt for an endangered animal. our reporter had to dodge a charging rhino. it's an "outfront" exclusive. i was about to use the uh. i've got a much better idea, lad! scotts ez seed uses the finest seed, fertilizer and natural mulch so you can grow grass anywhere! thanks, scott. ez seed really works! get scotts ez seed. it's guaranteed. constipated? .yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips.
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breaking news tonight. we have chilling new pictures coming in at this hour revealing the deadly massacre in waco. and how it could have been so much worse. as we speak, police are going car to car right now in the parking lot of that restaurant where the massacre happened. they're removing guns. they're removing bulletproof vests and other weapons. they're finding all of this in
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the cars some of the briekikers drove to this restaurant twin peaks, on sunday. police tell cnn they're close to arresting one of the bikers at the deadly shootout in waco. that suspect was arrested sunday with 170 other bikers but he was released essentially by an administrateive error with two other men. the two other have turned themselves into police. >> there are so many bikers arrested we can't possibly show you all of them. 170 of them. the sheriff says they're charged with engaging in organized crime connected to capital murder. this is a lot of people. >> yes, it is. this is just a small portion of the ones we have in jail. they're lined up. you know but we're bringing them out of the cells individually sometimes maybe two at a time. >> it's a logistical charge. each of the suspects held on $1
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million bond. $170 million in bail money just from this one scene. >> i like it. >> you like the $1 million bond. >> i sure do. it's like a revolving door. we deal with them over and over and over. >> the sheriff is a third generation texas lawman. he wears that history in his cowboy hat, his western guns and his swagger. a former u.s. marshal, he like other officers in waco have spent their decades long careers chasing the notorious ban deto bike gang. this latest brawl may have begin over a parking spot. that escalated to a shootout with police, leaving eight down. jimmy argues many of his bikers at the bloody brawl weren't volved in the fight. >> they're upset. they're detained for meeting for criminal intent or something when that wasn't what they were
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there for. >> none of you guys pulled out weapons against the police? >> never. my guyed have never pulled out weapons against the police. none of them. >> but the county hopes these arrests and the prosecution will change this long and tiresome battle with an old foe. is this a message to the other biker gangs from this county? >> very definitely. you know, you want to cause this kind of trouble, you want to come into mcclendon county and stab people shoot people beat them up. you need to think twice. you need to do it somewhere else. >> now, a preliminary autopsy report was released. the waco police department has asked cnn to refrain from reporting the names, but the nine people who were killed in the parking lot outside this restaurant, they all died from gunshot wounds and their ages vary from 27 to 65. erin. >> all right, thank you very much. "outfront" live in waco. now, "outfront," george christy, a former leader of the
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hell's angels one of the original outlaw motorcycle groups and steve cook an undercover officer who was able to infiltrate one of the gangs involved in the massacre. george let me start with you. you have been a member of a motorcycle gang. we've got a guy, you know they're trying to get one last guy in that they had released by mistake. but you're looking at a new pictures we have of they're going through their cars finding bulletproof vests, all sorts of weapons. it does seem pretty shocking to the average person how armed and dangerous these guys are. >> well thanks for having me here. you know we need to find out if those weapons are illegal. i don't know what the statutes are in texas, if bullet' proof vests are inappropriate to have. i don't know if they're legal or illegal. but, you know i'm not sure what transpired transpired. everything seems to be hazy. we're getting different reports as to what happened.
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and i think we're going to have to wait and it's going to be adjudicated in a court of law. i think that jumping the gun is not appropriate. >> the reality, george is though of course there was a shootout. multiple people were murdered. this isn't even the first scene of violence between these groups. back in march, these two groups were involved again. they attacked a bandito member with chains batons and metal pipes. it's hard to see these groups as anything other than criminal gangs when you hear about things like this. >> well you know you can call them criminal gangs, but they're not criminal gangs. they're motorcycle clubs. but there are criminals in them. i can't, you know defend that. the record speaks for itself. there are individuals that have criminal records, but the idea of the club is not about committing criminal acts. >> steve, you believe these groups are dangerous. >> absolutely. >> and why?
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i mean i know george is saying there are some criminal elements. he's not denying it altogether but again, the impression that's being given to the country is it's not just a few people. >> well when you look at these organizations on the whole, you know take them just separate it down piece by piece. look at the process that people go through to join. look at some of the things that are expected of them as members, and if you look charter to charter, and i don't care if you pick the banditos or the outlaws or the hell's angels you'll find the majority have been involved in some kind of felonious activity while they have been a member of the organization. >> the majority? >> i'm not sure i believe that the majority has been involved in criminal activity. i think that individuals have and the record speaks for itself. if you were to take the actual records of the individuals, i think that you would find that
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what you're saying steve, is not completely correct. >> steve, what's your response? >> well you know my response to that would be you know again, if i could just pick a chapter to chapter, let's take san diego, for instance. if we want to talk about the angels. i can't tell you how many times that the clubhouse has been entered, how many times multiple members of the charter have been you know indicted federally on criminal investigations. and you can go through state to state, location to location and you're going to find by and large that although yes, there are individual circumstances where members get arrested and prosecutor prosecutored there's also a great deal of situations where multiple members, members of the same organization the same charters, are all being brought in on conspearatoryial charges as a group. and it's not because of who they are as individuals. it's who they are as an organization. >> i appreciate both of your taking the time tonight.
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you differ strongly in terms of whether a majority of them are criminals or only a minority. >> next biker clubs, they like to point to toy drives and charity events as to who they really are, but is waco the real face of motorcycle gangs in america? our report on the two very different faces of biker clubs. and an ott olt exclusive. we're going to take you to africa azine american hunter tracks down and killed an endangered black rhino. our reporter literally on the run as the animal charges. that exclusive ahead.
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breaking news new images coming in tonight. police in waco seizing rifles other weapons, bulletproof vests from these cars in the parking lot of the twin peaks restaurant parking lot where the nine bikers were killed on sunday in a battle. perhaps indicates this could have been much much worse. here are just some of the 170 bikers who are right now locked up in connection with the massacre. waco police say some bikers in custody are not cooperating as they're trying to figure out exactly who was responsible for the killings. among the suspects are some of
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the most fears members in america. we're "outfront." >> hell's angels in high places and helping out at the queens jubilee, even feeding the homeless. images that can fuel legends. ♪ i pulled into nazareth ♪ >> you have this easy rider myth of this troublesome, somewhat dangerous but somehow likable biker. i'm always amazed alt how americans still cling to this myth of the outlaw. the harley has replaced the horse. >> big and friendly to the outsider there are motorcycle clubs across the country. but feds call more than 300 of them outlaw motorcycle gangs. omgs. not just born to be wild a serious national domestic threat according to the department of justice, which says these gangs are knoun for violent crimes as well as weapons and drug trafficking. at least five motorcycle gangs were involved in the deadly waco
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brawl, including the banditos which is considered one of the biggest and baddest outlaw bike gangs with up to 2500 members in the u.s. and 13 other countries. the notorious gang formed in texas in the '60s. state officials say they typically conduct illegal activities as covertly as possible. but on the flipside they seek to turn public sentiment in their favor by organizing frequent charity runs. in easter party in germany, a toy drive in france. both highlighted on their website. >> they're the gang that will help little old ladies cross the street. they're fix your car if you're stuck on the highway, and that plays into the myth. the point is what do you do when one of your members has been convicted of murder? or has been convicted of rape? do you stand up? >> organized into chapters the gangs are fiercely loyal. members wear their gang logos like uniforms and many seem to share a believe in brotherhood,
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bonded not by blood but bloodshed. authorities say the bike gangs and street gangs have the same kind of criminal pursuits. we hear more about street gangs because the bike gang population is relatively small, 2.5% of the total gang population worldwide, but they become a problem, according to law enforcement, in areas where there are disputs over territory, turf wars. >> incredible. incredible how much we're learning. 2.5% of gangs around the country. thank you very much. next "outfront" was there when an american hunter tracked and shot an endangered black rhino. it's an incredibly controversial hunt. we told you about the story and went with him to africa. you'll see that exclusive next. we'll say good-bye to david letterman who proved even turkeys can fly. >> a turkey is a flightless bird. i don't think so.
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told you about him when he was going to donate the money, to be spent on black rhino. our ed was charged by a ryan and the only person to go on the hunt. and he is "outfront.." >> three days of hunting a rhino through northern nobia, ended here. and cory noltan has no regrets. >> i'm pretty emotionally right now. >> you've been heavily cite sized for what you just did. >> yeah. >> do you feel like what you just did will benefit the black rhino. >> 100%.
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and i felt like 100% it was for the black rhino and i'll feel like that until the day i day. >> they granted us access after he won the access to hunt the rhino. >> there are so many that think this is bear bear acand you just want to hunt the black rhino. >> nobody put more valuation on this than i did. >> i'm hell bent on protecting this black rhino. >> he has received death tlepts and some call it a horrific idea. >> these are majestic creters and the worth is far greater than they are debt. >> the biggest threats are poachers and often the rhinos themselves. >> i'm cory. nice to meet you.
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>> he is told but the government to target four specific rhinos considered as a threat by the herd that is a story of this rhino spotted at a watering hole just before sunrise. last year it killed another rhino in a gruesome fight. the hunt begins. the african brush is dense and notton will have a submit second on whether to decide whether or not to pull the trigger. >> it would be devastating to shoot the wrong rhino, one not on the list of eligible to be take undown by the herd. >> they walk deeper into the brush. >> this is the angry one that already killed another bull so he's likely just going to get up and come and so we need to be ready. >> silence is crucial. they track him with hand signals. we get closer. and in an in stand, the rhino
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flashed before us. >> it is a rhino. it jumped up and darted right toward us. >> the ripo moves around us but he is invisible, sile ebb. a fearly 3000 pound beast that can move like a ghost in the brush until he decides to chanch -- charge. we don't see him until he is 30 feet away and charging right at us and i have to dive with the rifle. a short while later, the rhino is dead. >> as we sit here at this moment and take it all in and think about what the biggest threat to the reiners are -- to the rhinos are, is the poupers, to kill them and leave them for the horns, the horps that will sell for hundreds of thousands of
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dollars font black market. >> cory knows this isn't easy for people to watch, but he vows to convince the world that conservation hunts can help save the black rhino. >> and erin to put this in context, these are extremely rare. they are only issuing these permits to punt them since 2009, usually about two to three per year. and to put it in hunting conservationists the rhino that he hunt and shot was a deterrent, there we three male black rhinos and no females and no chance of reproduction and that rhino was prohibiting that and maybe they can consider bringing in females and increasing the chances of production and increasing the numbers of the population.
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so very complex and emotional issue as many people try to comprehend what is going on. approaching is a monumental threat here for the black rhinos. >> incredible report from ed. and we're curious what you feel about it and what coreys views and ed was explaining whether you are against the hunt or not and rich me at erin burnett. and "outfront" next saying goodbye to david letterman
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. david letterman has headlined more than 6,000 late showed and hosting nearly 20,000 guests and tomorrow night he'll host his final show. here is a look at his most memorable moments. >> and now a man who thinks yodelers should have their own museum david letterman. >> ladies and gentlemen, bill murray. >> david letterman, come on everybody out. >> now this wall is again
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covered with the other half -- >> i feel like a jerk playing tennis with you. >> why? >> because 90% of the day i feel like i jerk. >> i thought i would never want to do this show you with? >> why? now? >> because you thought i was -- >> an -- oirks oh, my god. >> the top sen changes i'll make in the white house. >> and the season i like being an actor. >> it is so hat the navigation
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lady says to me -- do you want to stop for a beer. >> read that. >> you look sharp. >> you haven't seen me naked. >> we're going to keep it that way. >> david letterman says good night, special tonight at 9:00 on cnn. thanks for joining us. anderson next. late dedales -- details in the waco shootout and the search for one man's whose bail was set lower than the others. and hillary clinton has gone 28 days without answering questions about e-mails and the billions she and her husband has received and now she finally breaks her silence. and now tonight you'll meet a remarkable individual who
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