that's it for "inside politics." thank you for sharing your sunday morning, especially on this memorial weekend. we will see you soon. "state of the union" starts right now. good morning from washington. i am jim acosta. we are waiting for a news conference out of cleveland ohio right now, after a largely peaceful night of protest following an acquittal of the shooting deaths of unarmed people. we expect to hear from the mayor of cleveland and the police chief there. what can we expect from the news conference? i guess it's fortunate last night was basically peaceful. what do we expect to hear? >> well it's likely we will get some sort of update on how things went overnight, judging from a number of riot police on the streets of cleveland and things seemed to have gone better than expected. yesterday there were small protests that carried on into

the evening, and 12 people arrested and three charges with throwing some sort of objects at a restaurant but other than that seeming to be relatively peaceful and that situation continue into this morning, and things calm on the streets of cleveland. now we are waiting for the press consequence for an update from the mayor as well as from the police chief. >> what was different from about last? why did things stay so calm do you think, relatively speaking? >> reporter: i think we have to remember this was a case that took place in 2012. following this incident the justice department launched a two-year investigation into what happened and came up with a series of recommendations to deal with what they determined as an excessive pattern of force in the part of the cleveland police department, and the community has had time to digest this tragedy, and yesterday we

saw members of the community coming out on the streets and vocalizing their upset at this court decision. the family we heard, urging peace and calm jim. >> speaking of that what did the mayor and police chief and other local leaders, what have they said so far to urge the public there to keep the peace even though a lot of people may be disappointed in this decision that was reached? >> yeah we heard yesterday from mayor frank jackson saying this was a defining moment for the city but again, urging people that who come out on the streets to protest and remain peaceful urging calm. i suspect in this press conference about to unfold here in the auditorium we will hear more of the same. later today there is a basketball game a playoffs game, and we heard from hometown star lebron james. he is also urging peace and calm

saying sports can heal the city. >> just looking at the pictures that we are seeing right now, obviously there was pushing and shoving in terms of some of the protests with the police there. i am just curious what you observed in terms of the tactics they used that sort of kept things from going over the edge. it looks like it was a tense situation, but a lot of restraight was also exercised from all appearances here? >> yeah, and i think also a factor was the police presence out on the streets in cleveland, and we saw the police out there in large numbers, and even in the early hours of this morning we saw plenty of police patrolling the streets and making sure the situation remained calm. >> i guess one thing that should not be overlooked here you are seeing pictures of the protests that took place in cleveland, and these were almost entire

protests people registering complaints about what happened and we did not see things get out of hand. that has to be a very reassuring development for people there in cleveland, it did not go down the road that we saw in ferguson or in baltimore. >> yeah, and it does not appear to be that way at the moment but i would say this is still a city on edge a city still wary of what could potentially happen next as the day continues to unfold less than 24 hours following that verdict, but, yes, at the moment here in cleveland, a sense of calm a sense of order on the streets. >> and i guess, walk us through the case that was decided on erin for the viewers who have not been focussing on this and it's a holiday weekend so people may have been away from their tvs for a bit and not aware of what was involved in this case.

can you lay that out for our viewers? i suppose we will hear the police chief and mayor talk about this again at the news conference hopefully that will get going in the next couple of minutes. what was involved in the case that put the city, as you said, on the edge? >> this is a case an incident rather that happened in 2012. the victims, melissa williams and timothy russell were riding in a car, and their car back fired, and police officers next by thought that back fire was a gunshot and therefore a car chase ensued and a car chase that lasted over 20 miles and it was there over a 100 shots were there killing williams and russell, and the officer charged

in the case, brelo, firing 15 rounds from the hood of the car into the victims, and the judge in this case ultimately deciding -- sorry, i was waiting for the press conference to start there, and ultimately deciding that brelo had a reasonable perception of danger when he did that and he was ultimately found not guilty of voluntary manslaughter as well as felonious assault. jim? >> erin this is not the only case that people in cleveland are following closely when it comes to allegations of police brutality, and police going beyond what is the lawful exercise of their duties and there is the case of this young boy that really captured the nation's attention, and i suppose in looking at this case that was just decided in the last couple of days i suppose people on the streets there

protesting they are lumping all of the cases together to say what is wrong with cleveland? looks like the press conference is getting started now. let's go live to the press conference. >> thank you for coming today, and i want to thank those protesters and demonstrators who were responsible in the exercising of their first amendment rights yesterday and yesterday evening and night, and they served as an example of peaceful demonstrations and dialogue that will help us to move forward to a positive and substantive reform and force better relationships between the police division and the community. as i said yesterday, we will and we continue to encourage a peaceful protest and demonstration, however, however, we will not tolerate activities

that cross the line. the majority of the protests the majority of the protesters yesterday were peaceful although aggressive at the end of the day, but still peaceful. in the evening, however, there were some that crossed the line and as a result they were arrested and they crossed the line in some cases by assaulting bystanders. that's what we will not tolerate. i will have the chief come up and talk to you about -- give you an update as to where we are, and where we anticipate going today and then give you some indication as to the number of arrests that were made yesterday and why. chief? >> thanks mayor. good morning. first of all, as the mayor stated the majority of the protesters and the protests

activity yesterday remained peaceful although at some times aggressive, and still peaceful when within the bounds we expect here in cleveland. we made sure we allow to let people express their first amendment rights and express sometimes their anger and frustration about the events that have unfolded here in the city and across the country, and we gave people the space and provided a safe environment for them to do that. throughout the early part of the day, those activities again, remain peaceful. as we begin to go towards the early afternoon hours, things got a little more aggressive protesters actually blocked one of our major thorough fares,

route 2. this is a dangerous activity and we try to discourage it and prevent it because, you know a highway with cars going 60 miles per hour is a lot different than the public roadway with the 25-mile-per-hour speed limit. at that time officers moved in and basically gave warnings to those protesters blocking route 2 and they disbursed and got back on the normal roadway. protesters after a certain time period on the west side of town came back downtown and entered tower city center one of our downtown shopping centers, and they became disruptive. the officers of the division police and officers from tower city were able to get the individuals out of tower city at which time the businesses in tower city closed for the remainder of the day just as a precaution. as stated earlier, the protests

basically remained peaceful until the latter part of the day when people began to get more aggressive, and at times started to cross the line. as i stated yesterday, we would not allow people to commit acts of violence either against property or persons in this event, and officers moved in as soon as those things began to happen. on that east fourth one of the protesters actually picked up a sign from one of the restaurants on the sidewalk and threw it at a patron injuring that patron and hitting him in the head, and that protester, officers moved to arrest him, and other protesters interfered with that lawful arrest and three people in total were arrested. the main protester for felonious assault, and the other

protesters for crimes ranging from obstruction of justice to aggravated rioting. the protests continued from that point and moved to an area of east ninth and kwraoubg lit, where we had incidents of protesters actually pepper spraying patrons seated at restaurants in patio areas walking down the street, and officers again moved in and made arrests. later in the night we had a incident that happened at least fourth street and euclid and protesters again attacked bystanders. at this time officers moved in and the order was given to disperse the protest because it was becoming increasingly violent, not so much against officers but everyday citizens enjoying downtown.

officers made several arrests at that time and orders were given for the protesters to disperse, and of course they refused and we made more arrests and this all culminated later on in the evening, and another confrontation on west sixth and johnson court, where protesters were again ordered due to the violence to disperse, and they refused at which time we brought in enough officers to make several arrests. those arrests were as follows. 71 total individuals were arrested. there were -- there were approximately 39 males arrested and approximately 16 females arrested and out of that there

were also juveniles arrested and other adults. we only moved in to make arrests when things got violent and protesters refused to disperse. we wanted to make sure that people understand we're going to help you in this process, but if things turn violent, as we stated in the beginning, we will take action to preserve safety in the city. thank you. >> any questions? it's hard for me to see you. >> there you have it cleveland mayor, frank jackson, and the cleveland police chief wrapping up and getting into questions and wrapping up what happened overnight with the protests in the city. thankfully largely a peaceful night there in cleveland with some arrests being reported by authorities. we will keep tabs on that and if there is mayor developments coming out of cleveland we will

bring it to you. getting back to the topic here on state of the kwraoupb krupbs isis a counter offensive after the terror group had one of its biggest weeks in nearly a year, isis control of the ancient city of ramadi, the capital of iraq's sunni anbar province and i am joined now by two lawmakers who have a lot of familiarity with what is going on in iraq democratic congresswoman, gabbard, and adam kinzinger, thank you for being here on state of the unions. president obama said the u.s.-led coalition is not losing in the battle with isis. congressman, i will go to you

first. what do you make of that the president saying the u.s.-led coalition is not losing? >> you know clearly isis has gained momentum in particular over the last week as we have seen the ground that they have gained both in iraq and syria, and i would like to just break it down to what i see as the basic problem here especially in iraq where we are seeing the sunnis continue to be persecuted by the central government in baghdad, and there is distrust for the central government the iranian influence shia militia created a situation where just as a matter of survival they have no place to turn to protect their families and communities other than to isis and you have this solution and you have the kurds, and sunni tribesmen who are literally begging -- i met with a sunni tribal leader in

washington, they are begging for arms heavy ammunition to fight against isis to protect families and tribal lands and territories, but still to this point the u.s. and senate iraqi government is failing to provide that and therefore isis continues to be able to grow. >> what do you make of that congressman, the president's assessment last week that we're not losing? >> well of course you are not losing and you are not winning because we are not engaged in the fight. at some point we're going to have to understand the goal is the destruction of isis. the president, when we began this attack i guess, on isis he said you know we are going to do it we are going to bomb them and hit them and not put troops on the ground and in essence what the president said we are going to destroy isis until that takes boots on the ground. the president needs to stand in front of the american people and lead on this and say, look this is a cancer that is growing in the middle east, and this is not

just a situation where if the house catches on fire it will burn down and we look at a burned down house, but this is now a house on fire in a densely packed neighborhood where it will spread time-out places, and we have to be aggressive in stopping the cancer now in iraq and syria and libya where it's existing and we have to show a big major blow to isis, and right now you have a lot of people sitting in the basements looking on the internet and not because they want to be martyrs but to be part of something big, and i think we are going to continue to see the problem with foreign fighters. >> and i want to toss out to our international correspondent joining us from baghdad, and arwa you have been joining this cover conversation and is isis being pushed back? is isis losing ground? that is something, two asirtions

the white house was making last week to cool down all of the second guessing taking place here in washington. what can you tell us from the ground there? >> reporter: first of all, one has to continuously keep in mind the battle lines here are constantly shifting and small chunks of territory do regularly go back and forth. following the fall of ramadi a week ago, isis did push into other smaller towns located to the east of ramadi. the government has managed to recapture some of them but not only on its own. you had a unit comprised of the iraqi army plus and was the deciding factor in this the eyeslation units and this is the backed force and it was largely due to them that they were able to accomplish the small victories in the grander scheme of things. they are using the sunni tribes

to hold ground and the sunni tribes are very underarmed when it comes to the threat they could be facing by isis. the government has no choice but to use the unconventional fighting forces. the iraqi government does not have its own units capable of taking on an entity like isis. >> let me go back to congresswoman gabbard about this. it seems we have a strategy in place in terms of providing air support to the iraqi security forces on the ground or the perb myrrh tkpwau in the kurdish areas to the north, and it doesn't seem that that is an effective strategy at this point and that is not working, and can you get into semantics as to whether we are losing or winning or failing, and that strategy doesn't seem to work. what do you propose at this point? >> i would like to point out a

couple things. i think there is definitely more we can do in providing the blows in the air strikes, but the iraqi government does have a choice, and they have a choice by arming directly the sunni tribes men as your correspondent just pointed out. they have the will to fight and they are on the ground begging and saying give us the heavy weapons and arms and ammunition we need to be able to fight against isis, and instead the iraqi government is relying on the shia military, and they are saying we will rely on the anti-tank weapons, and we see the iraqi security forces cut and run and left their weapons for isis at a few opportunities, and these weapons are getting into the hands of the shia militia. i want to point out something that happened while we were going through the armed services committee hearing process for

the national defense authorization act, where aiko sponsored an amendment that would authorize the u.s. government directly arming the kurds and the shias, and we had a leader as we were going through the hearing, and he said quote, if this bill is passed we will have no choice but to unfreeze the military wing that deals with the americans so it can start targeting american interests, both in and outside of iraq. so when you look at this these are the people that the united states is aligning itself with who are essentially saying we are going to come out and attack you if you don't do what we want. >> congressman, i want to ask you this because you heard fellow republicans, senator lindsay graham and john mccain talking about a proposal to send roughly 10,000 troops into iraq and primarily to do training and provide intelligence and that sort of thing but not to fight house to house in combat

situations. what do you make of that proposal? does that sound reasonable to you? what do you think? >> yeah it's reasonable. i am not sure of the exact number but let's think about where we have been here and the question is are we winning against isis? 18 months ago i called for bombing isis at the time they moved into falluja, and at the time i thought it was al qaeda, and i was accused of wanting to start iraq 3, and then isis grew and people got engaged and wanted to destroy them. we are seeing the movement continue to grow, and i think at this point we have to understand that everyday that goes by where we don't push this cancer back and we allow them to put car bombs in allies and ieds in towns that they occupy right now, every day that goes by the cost of liberating iraq or the cost of defeating this cancer is only going to increase. i think we have to do the force that is proportionate, and the violence proportionate necessary

to push back isis. the president likes to talk about the fact we are not going to send 200,000 troops in iraq and i agree, and i never heard a person ever say we need 200,000 troops in iraq. >> you think that's a strong arm argument. >> he likes to put two false choices up and say he is the one in the middle. i think the one in the middle right now is saying what do we need to do to embolden the iraqi territory where it exists and arm the perb myrrh tkpwau and sunnis. they have a 600-mile border with isis as it exists today and they are struggling to maintain their own territory and it's a complicated battle. >> what do you make of what congressman saying there, he is okay with 10,000 troops going in there, and you know this deployment after deployment and it's breaking military families

across the country on the memorial day weekend, and it may not be the news they want to hear and congress calling for more troops. >> it's important for us to focus on what our mission and goal should be which is defeating isis. let's look back several years ago where we had over 100,000 troops there training the iraqi security forces and after the united states pulled out you saw how these iraqi security forces lasted and they cut and ran and dropped their weapons when they were faced with their first real battle with isis so the issue here is not about how many u.s. troops can be sent to train these iraqi security forces because you can't train into somebody the will to fight. they don't have the will to fight, and this iraqi security force organization you do have people and the will and courage to fight, and we have seen it

time and again with the perb myrrh tkpwau and now they are asking for what they need to protect their families and communities, and yet unfortunately we are still not taking care and doing the obvious, and we have boots on the ground there that are ready to fight. >> jim, can i just -- >> congressman, we have to go but we appreciate your time. go ahead and skwrupl in that there if you have something to say. >> let me say quickly, the american military wants to defeat our enemies and i think they are ready to go and be unleashed which is necessary and that's what they are called to do. >> very good. we will have second ash carter coming up in the next segment, and he will talk about in pretty stark terms that he believes the iraqi forces don't have the will to fight. we will be talking about that coming up next. ash carter talking to our barbara starr, and he reacts to the huge loss by iraqi forces in ramadi. that's coming up next.

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and ask about them gaining momentum. >> what apparently happen was the iraqi forces showed no will to fight. they were not out numbered and they vastly outnumbered the opposing force, and they failed to fight and withdrew from the site and that says to me and i think to most of us that we have an issue with the will of the iraqis to fight isil and defend themselves. we can give them training and we can give them equipment and we can't obviously give them the will to fight, but if we give them training and equipment and support and some time i hope they will develop the will to fight because only if they fight can isil remain defeated. >> a lot of people in washington that you deal with on the other

side of the aisle are saying look putting ground troops and air ground controllers and air strikes are not working. what do you foresee? what is your view on this? >> air strikes are effective but neither they nor really anything we do can substitute for the iraqi forces' will to fight. they are the ones that have that to beat isil and keep them beaten. we can participate in the defeat of isil but we can't make iraq run as a decent place for people to live. we can't sustain the victory, only the iraqis can do that and in particular n. in this case the sunni tribes to the west, and if there comes a time when we need to change the kinds of support we are giving to the iraqi forces we will take into

consideration, but what happened was the failure of the iraqi forces to fight, so our efforts now are devoted to providing their ground forces with the equipment, the training and to try to encourage their will to fight so that our campaign enabling them can be successful in defeating isil and keeping them defeated in a sustained way. >> reporter: you are not for air controllers on the ground? >> we have not made that recommendation. >> forward air controllers would immediate u.s. troops on the ground to provide the air strikes. here to talk about this the secretary of defense in president obama's first term, and michael lighter under president bush and obama. you were in the running for defense secretary this last time

around when ash carter was tapped for that possession, and i am curious what you make of him saying the iraqi security forces may not have the will to fight? >> i think when we talk about taking on isis and pushing them back in sunni-dominated areas, we have got to be the people with the political will to fight are the sunnis and the sunni tribes, and we have to insure that our efforts are directed at helping them arming and training them providing operational support on the battlefield, and enablers air cover and so forth, and pressing the iraqi government to desolve more governance and resources to the provinces. secretary carter just said you know if there is a time when we need to do more we will do it. now is that time in my view. >> michael, do you think the administration has been too slow to confront this threat in a serious way? >> i think we probably

underestimated how deep the hole is we dug ourselves in. what i mean by that is how week the government structure in iraq was and how weak the will to fight has been and how much it's going to take to get the iraqis back up to par. similarly, i think we underestimated the problems we have in syria, how weak our situation is there, and how we underestimated how alienated our allies are there, and ramadi is the best current illustration of that. >> the president said last week that we're not losing. i guess the question is it's not whether we are winning or losing but is the strategy in a state of disrepair? how do we fix this? >> i agree with the fundamental premise that we the united states cannot fix this in a

sustainable way by ourselves, and ultimately whatever victories we hope the iraqi achieve will have to be sustained by the iraqis but we under resourced the strategy. we need to provide more stuff for training and advising down to the battalion level than at the division level, and we need to provide more intelligence -- >> why haven't they done that? you dealt with the administration and dealt with the national security team. why not? >> i think there is a major hesitation to get too deeply involved in iraq again, and then i think there is you know a lot of americans are worried about that. the truth is isis is a threat not only to iraq and syria, but it is a threat to us particularly given the flow of foreign fighters thousands of offer peaens and this is a terrorists problem that affects us and we have to take a more forward-leaning posture. >> michael, you dealt with president obama and it's not as

if he wants the terrorists to win, and he understands the threat so as i was asking michelle, what is it? why is there this disconnect? >> i think michelle is fundamentally right. i am not surprised we agree and we work closely together but the challenge we have is we pulled lots out of iraq, and the american people i think arguably don't want to go back and forth, but what we have to understand this is not about iraq it's about a region that to some extent is melting down and the bombing in isis against a shia mosque and the attacks in libya, and this is destabilizing the region, and it's not about iraq or syria, but a regional complication we have to put out, and we see threats within western nations by people who have been trained by or inspired by isis and the fact is we are well past that point and we have

to be more forceful about it now. >> michelle, iraq almost feels like the forever war, and we have been dealing with this since the 1990s under george w. bush, and we are going into another election talking about what to do about iraq. how do we make it stop? >> that's a great question. i think the fundamental issue in iraq is one of governance that you have a central government in baghdad that is still operating along sectarian lines is that not seeing itself as a national unity government that brings in the kurds and the sunnis. we have to convince them that they are at a tipping point, either they become a true national unity government and share power in a meaningful way and stop persecuting the minorities or iraq will dissolve into three parts and that is in no one's interest. >> thank you.

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here now, julian castro and he and d.c. mayor kicked off the agency's agency's revitalized urban areas. mr. secretary, thank you for joining ugs this morning. we appreciate it. >> great to be with you. >> we noticed with the situation in cleveland over the weekend, the situation in baltimore, ferguson this issue of urban development is becoming more and more a critical component for

you when it comes to dealing with the cities that are facing some mayor issues. i am just curious, how -- is this becoming more of a topic of conversation for you to sort of deal with urban development in cities that are facing tough times to sort of prevent the next baltimore from happening, the next ferguson from happening? >> hud this year is marking its 50th year anniversary, and the issues that never left in terms of the department and you are right, whatever we see how out there, baltimore, ferguson cleveland right now, it does give us as a nation an extra impetus to focus on these issues. i believe that one of the lasting legacies of the obama administration is for the first time in these efforts we figured out that it's not just about improving housing, it's not just what hud is doing, it's also improving education in the neighborhood and transit op

supbz, and of course improving job opportunities and through place based work the obama administration is working with local leaders in cities across the united states and rural areas as well to lift up the quality of life and provide more economic opportunity out there. i think you will see the impact of this in the years to come even in some of the toughest areas in the united states. >> how do you respond to the notion, and i am sure you heard it in recent weeks in response to what happened in baltimore, the great society was a failure? i know this is a time when you and the rest of the administration would like to see more resources going into our urban areas. >> there are people that say that, and i would say they are dead wrong. in fact what we see today in the united states because of the instances for instance we see a strong reduction in childhood poverty.

even when we find based on evidence initiatives that work for instance our housing choice voucher program was a subject of a massive longitudal study that showed that educational and employment outcomes improve when young people have the benefit of a housing choice voucher so they can move with their family to a place of low poverty and higher opportunity, and when we find things that work the president is requesting 100,000 more vouchers than we have now, because we lost 170,000 to sequestration, and we are not getting the resources from the congress, and it's about resources and how we coordinate better with local leaders to make a good impact on the ground. >> i want to switch gears a little bit, because it's memorial day weekend to ask you about the issue of veteran homelessness which is an issue that you have to deal with at the housing and urban

development department and it has decreased 33% since 2010 but there are still 50,000 homeless vets in america, and we see them on the streets of washington and people see them on the streets of washington as they head to arlington national cemetery this weekend. what more can we do for them? >> there's a lot we are doing and we are going to keep working hard. this is one of the best news stories out there. in 2010 president obama became the first president to say we are not just going to talk about reducing veteran homelessness, but we are going to end it. since 2010 we have seen a 33% reduction in veteran homelessness for two reasons because the president led and worked well with the congress to get more hud vouchers so they can go into the market and get a place to live and communities across the united states have signed up to be part of the challenge to end veteran

homelessness and adopt appal sees like housing first, and getting veterans in housing instead of making them live in shelter, and we suspect we will end veteran homelessness. >> that would be quite an accomplishment that we could taught in a run in 2016 if you were to be put on hillary clinton's ticket. i can't let you go without talking about this. what do you make of this when you see the former secretary at your department henry sus tphaeur yos, and he says the first person on their list is julian castro. >> if i had a dime for every amount of speculation that happens in d.c. all of us would be wealthy.

who wouldn't be flattered by that? i have found in life like a bet a lot of folks watching out there, the best thing to do in life is to do a great job with what is in front of you, and i am trying to do a great job at hud and make sure we benefit americans out there, this weekend and memorial day weekend, when we think about our veterans and all of us together are committed to making a difference and getting the veterans a place to live and it's happening. we are going to have that glorious day in the not-too-distant future we can say we ended veteran homelessness. >> let me ask you about the 2016 campaign the e-mails that have been released by the state department with respect to hillary clinton and her time there, the private e-mails she was using to conduct business at the department do you believe that she has answered that question appropriately and fully?

>> absolutely. let's take a look at this issue with benghazi. this thing has been studied to death by republicans and democrats, and several committees including in congress that have all said yes, of course what happened was trapblgics but secretary clinton was not in any way at fault, and what you have with the e-mails is a witch hunt. and one congressman leading this is trying to manipulate this witch hunt to play politics and that's unfortunate, and that's why congress has a 19% approval rating. i think we need to focus on more substantive things. i know out there in america, they care about are you reducing veteran homelessness and providing the empaw tuesday for young people to achieve their dreams and not whether somebody had e-mails or didn't have them. >> do you use do you use a private e-mail account? >> i have a private aflle e-mail,

but i have a government ale. >> do you government business on the e-mail and private -- >> and she's already explained that. people want us to focus on things ma matter to their lives. they want us to make a difference in creating more opportunity out there, and that's just a witch hunt that's a scheideide show. i think the work we're doing to end veteran homelessness is something that matters. skroop thank you very much for your time. wee appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up next more on the hillary clinton e-mails. our round table is next.

i'm aware that the fbi has asked that a portion of one e-mail be held back. that happens in the process of freedom of information act responses. but that doesn't change the fact that all of the information in the e-mails was handled appropriately. >> hillary clinton doing some e-mail damage control there on the campaign trail. those newly released e-mails from hillary clinton's time as secretary of state offers new insight into her handling of the benghazi attacks.

joining me penny lee chris frates who has been tasked with reading those e-mails, and kristin soltis anderson. chris, let me go to you first. have you read through all of these e-mails that were recently released? if so i apologize because it's a holiday weekend. >> it was a holiday weekend and that's probably part of the reason why they came out, right? it was a friday before a long weekend. so we went through the 300 e-mails and there were no bombshells. there was nothing that indicated that hillary clinton knew of any kind of stand down order, that there was any kind of stand down order, that any arms were coming through benghazi. no smoking guns. >> the conspiracy -- >> the spon sir si theories. and democrats were quick to say this is why we've already been through this. this is an exercise in futility. now, republicans, on the other hand on that benghazi committee that's looking into what happened there is saying well there's a lot of questions.

there was e-mails about security during benghazi in 2011 and in 2012. we need to continue to look into that. and there was also a little flavor for how she likes to run the state department. there were notes to her two senior aides who were going to -- they were going to testify on capitol hill and she had suffered a concussion. they said she said i have a cracked head but i want you to go up there and remain calm carry on. >> i remember that when she was wearing the glasses. >> exactly. it was informative a little bit to kind of get a sense of how she ran her state department but there was nothing there that suggested -- >> nothing -- >> but that was only 300 e-mails. we still have 30,000 more to come. >> so the coast is clear, penny lee? >> i think it just confirms what we all have been saying all along, that many of the already investigations we've already seen take place, we've already had five six investigations and a full report and they have

consistently said what was backed up in hillary's e-mail is that there wasn't a broad conspiracy and there wasn't that stand down order that was out there. so i think it shows there's more to come but it does prove a consistency in where she was from the beginning. >> kristin, more to come i guess. what do you make of -- >> so we're right now trusting that hillary clinton is giving us the e-mails that do tell the full picture. again, remember these are e-mails that it's turning out some of them had some fairly sensitive information and they're living on an e-mail server in hillary clinton's possession and she's turning over what she wants to turn over. poll after poll find americans font find hillary clinton to be terribly trustworthy and that's what we're going to be seeing playing out here. >> and, penny, i wonder what do you make of the fact that sidney blumenthal has come back, you know from the 1990s, i guess that we're now talking about sidney blumenthal e-mails with hillary clinton. doesn't this all sort of remind voters that hillary clinton, you know was the first lady in the

1990s and was -- >> there's no denying that. but there's no denying -- >> but we're dealing with hillary clinton and the way she handles her sensitive subjects like this in a sometimes infective way. >> look there's no denying what her resume is. yes, she was first lady. she was senator and all of those things. i have worked for many politicians, ed ren zell harry reid and others who had this many friends who have volunteered information they thought might be helpful to someone, and what she did was the proper -- >> it feels like a "seinfeld" rerun. sort of like why are we going back? sidney blumenthal really? >> what she did was the proper thing to do vet it through her staff. she can't help sometimes what is incoming. what you can do is how you react to it and what she did was the proper thing. vet it through the possible right forums and to see -- >> i doubt many voters know who sid blumenthal is but whey do know is a lot of voters see

headlines that allies of isis are sort of filling the void that's been left in lydia. i know in the hillary e-mails, there is e-mails saying hillary clinton is the face of libya. we've positioned you as the face of american action. we know in her record at the beginning of the iraq war, she voted to authorize regime change in the middle east that sort of led to a vacuum that has led to the situation we're seeing now, and in libya she was the face of libya which led to a vac sum after regime change that leads people to feel fairly unsafe. that's the stuff voters are going to be caring about and making their judgments about, whether she's somebody who is capable of being the commander in chief. >> not to look into the future chris, but do you think we'll find anything in these e-mails? as kristen said these are the ones the clintons are giving us to look at. >> what we've learned from how she e-mails is she's very logistical. she doesn't talk a lot about the policy. she's not discussing kind of how she feels about certain issues and i think even though we have 30,000 e-mails still to konl i

think that pattern will continue. >> thank you very much panel. we appreciate it. do the breaking news from cleveland. we were unable to bring our piece to you on arlington national cemetery. it will air in the noon hour. i'm jim acosta in washington. fareed zakaria, "gps" starts right now. >> this is gps, the global public scarequare. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. we'll start with a world-class panel to discuss the world's many crises. isis advances in iraq and syria. europe's military action to stop migrants coming into the could be tinnant. china's push forward in the south china seas and america's role in all of it.