tv Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown CNN May 24, 2015 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
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this. good work, zamboni. good work. ♪ so zach, you happy with the show? >> hope we don't suck on television. >> dude, i think i'm setting a pretty low bar. i'm going to tell you this relaxed lifestyle, lounging around eating and drinking, no nap is long enough for me. life is good. i envy you zach zamboni. and we're out. nice end. peru is a country that's historically driven men mad, mad for gold, for cacao, for its magical ancient history.
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now, there's something else drawing outsiders to its hidden mountain valleys. we love the stuff. we obsess about it, gorge on it and fetishize it. i'm talking about chocolate, once a common treat, it's now becoming as nuanced as fine wine making the pursuit of the raw good stuff all the more difficult. i'm joining that hunt in remotest peru, but not before i've re-immersed myself in the booming lima food scene. ♪ i took a walk through this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ found something good in this beautiful world ♪ ♪ i felt the rain getting colder ♪
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♪ sha la la la la ♪ sha la la la la la ♪ sha la la la la ♪ sha la la la la la la ♪ >> i'm in peru with this guy, eric ripert. >> he was looking at this, he went into the tree. >> that's funny. >> chef of the world famous restaurant le bernardin in new york. to look at where chocolate comes from, particularly our chocolate, the very expensive limited run designer chocolate bar business that eric got me into last year. so that's why we're in peru. but before we get all indiana jones we're spending some time
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in lima, as we like the capital city just fine. and we have, both of us, from previous trips, friends here. lima is the cultural hub and culinary capital of a country that has exploded in the last decade with scores of world-class chefs, cooks, and restaurants. it has long been considered to be one of the best food scenes in all of south america. >> good. >> how far away is the house? >> that's it. >> yeah. >> five minutes. >> one of our friends here is chef restaurateur, coque ossio, he's one of the best, most successful chefs in the country. his family is something of a beloved culinary dynasty in peru. and pucusana, a small fishing village about an hour south of lima is where they spend their weekend. coque's mom, marisa guiulfo, is
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like peru's julia child and james beard rolled into one. >> thank you for having us. >> a caterer, cookbook author, beloved icon of peruvian gastronomy. to say one is fortunate to enjoy her hospitality would be an understatement. warm, generous, welcoming beyond belief. >> too bad you have to leave so soon. >> yeah. >> normally, we have lunch late, like 5:00. >> do you nap before lunch or after? >> both. >> sounds like paradise. wow. look at this. >> every weekend, marissa opens the house to an ever-changing mob of friends, visitors, drop-ins, and family. >> this is fantastic. >> they do not skimp on the food. delicious, delicious things pour
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out of the kitchen, a torrent, a deluge of traditional peruvian favorites. >> i do this with crab meat, yellow potato and avocado. we love avocado. >> it is like a tureen of crab meat, eggs, avocado and mashed yellow potatoes. >> okay. >> this is ceviche from the coast. >> beautiful. >> basically raw king fish dressed with aji amarillo paste, and lime juice. >> perfect. >> that's scallops ceviche. >> fresh scallops and lemon juice and garlic. drum fish braised with a corn-based beer. >> they look fantastic. >> this is spicy. >> very spicy. >> and stuffed rocoto peppers filled with ground beef and raisined serve with parilla cheese.
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>> wow. >> are we lucky or what? >> we are lucky. >> that's just the beginning. there's so much more food there's no way we can show it all, much less describe it. it's incredible, overwhelming, invariably fresh and delicious and thrillingly different than what i'm used to. >> it's fantastic. >> i could frankly get out of the chocolate business right now, put up a pup tent on marissa's porch and pretty much dig in for the duration. this is living. >> those little fish are amazing. they're so fresh. >> i want to be her next-door neighbor. >> it's so good. >> so has peruvian cuisine always been this diverse and this delicious and we're just discovering it or has it changed over the last 15 years? >> it's changing any way. what you're eating now is the traditional food. >> there's so many products in peru that are unfamiliar to people in the states. when you eat this food, it's not like, well, this is something like. no, it's not kind of like anything. >> it's a lot of ingredients. good ingredients all year round.
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>> it is very good. >> what do you do when you're homesick for peruvian food and you're traveling? there's really -- >> we take some chiles with us in the luggage. we're the perfect smugglers. >> i hate to say good-bye to this, but it is what it is. things to do and places to go. wild and apparently extremely rare cacao trees to visit. >> incredible meal. so happy. [ speaking foreign language ] >> all i can say is if people are anywhere near this nice on the rest of this trip, it's going to be okay. lima, city of kings, home to a third of peru's people.
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locals escape by hanging out at the beach. why not when you can maybe get a tattoo while you're at it? is that sanitary? ♪ >> you've been here before. >> oh, yeah, man. ♪ >> i take eric's suggestion and we head over to see chef javier wong, the uniquely nonconformist seafood specialist, famous for his incredible and uncompromising ceviches and his flaming wok. if peru has a national dish, it's probably ceviche. the freshest fish only needs the right cut, a little citrus and no heat.
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what's the most common thing that people do wrong? >> the quality of the ingredients. you don't do a ceviche with something that's not fresh. >> right. >> the cut is very important, the thickness. >> right. >> when you do the ceviche, you don't do it ahead of time. >> the whole place is served whatever menu he's doing that day, same for everybody. today, the flounder he got from the market is particularly nice, so that's what we're getting. generally thicker pieces to stand up to the spices and acids. first up an octopus and flounder ceviche. >> i don't know what to tell you, man. it's damn good. >> it is good. >> is this spicy or not? >> you ever been spanked in your life and enjoyed it? yeah, me neither. i don't like pain. except -- >> as painful as the pepper. >> brutalized with a pepper. i like. >> that's really hot. >> it's flounder dressed with
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pecans, lime, aji limo, and sesame oil, which clearly eric likes. so you're not like foraging in the catskills for your inspiration? you basically rip your ideas off small businessmen? >> it's okay? >> si. >> superb. [ speaking foreign language ] >> chinese and japanese immigrants came to peru in great numbers in the 19th and 20th centuries as contract laborers and farmers and their influence is felt here, particularly in the flood -- food to a greater degree than anywhere else on the continent. it's that influence and the ingredients of amazonia and the andes that really distinguishes
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the food here as something special. >> what is this? tofu? >> queso fresco. >> this is not traditional. >> it looks asian to me. i believe it's probably -- >> dude, his name is wong. unless he's a retired porn star -- this shouldn't be good but it is. working up a sweat on that one. might have a couple more beers after this. have a nice nap, midday nap. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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long leaves and much more powerful in flavor. >> it would be wrong to point out that peru, along with brazil, is at the forefront of a movement celebrating the incredible and unique larder from the andes and the amazon, flavors you find no place else on earth. >> there seems to be a lot of interest in the last decade in the amazon because of its amazing spectra entirely new to most of us of ingredients. pedro schiaffino is at the cutting edge of exactly that territory. his restaurant, amaz explores the rivers and landscape of peru, highlighting a range of products stunning in their diversity and to us, their newness. >> you have tuna, plantain vinegar. that's the cashew fruit. the nut is a fruit in brazil. and here we use the fruit. >> hmm. >> we make these scallops with wild almond. >> the almond is very, very
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soft, like the flavor of it and complements really well. >> this one is fresh water shrimp. dashi, made of taro root and shrimp. >> whole new flavor spectrum, all new. it's almost like you need a new section of your tongue. >> it must be so exciting because they are basically an amazing garden with the amazon. >> that looks good. >> this is a soup made of ham with peanuts and corn. and it's got -- >> hmm. i like the food. i've enjoyed these cocktails, too. cashew. >> are we going to be wasted? >> we'll be fine. oh, whoa. >> this is also tradition. this is called patarashca. they season the fish, put it on a leaf and cook it. the fish is catfish. in the amazon we have like 200 types of catfish. >> and the flavor from the leaf, too. >> and here we have the arapaima, the second biggest freshwater fish in the world.
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underneath you have a puree that is a pan fruit and a production of fermented yucca. >> fermented. >> or poisonous. >> they let it ferment it and it becomes -- you can eat it. >> these fish are unbelievable. they get up to like 600 pounds and they're swimming in water no deeper than a rice paddy. >> really? >> giant. they're like dinosaur fish. everyone has been saying for years peru will be the next big thing as far as restaurants and -- >> it is. this really prove it. >> and we have a chili pepper made with nuts and ants. >> wow, they're huge. >> yeah, huge ants. >> you want to try it? >> yeah. totally. you're not loving that, are you? >> no. >> imagine, you took a lot of acid and then you ate that whole bowl of ants and you go home and
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you experience violent diarrhea, and, like, you're tripping. it's, like, 4:00 in the morning and you turn around and look at the toilet and all these ant heads floating around in there. it would be cool. >> it would be super cool. only i can't wait. >> now that we've confirmed what we already knew, that peru's food is unequivocally awesome, it seems proper we take a trip back in time to meet the fore ber -- forebearer's of this country's rich cultural legacy. the larco herrera museum in lima has a massive collection of pre-colombian artifacts. looking at them, you get an idea of what these ancient peoples were like, how they lived. >> wow! this is like the real stuff. >> i think so. right. i mean, it's the real deal, yeah.
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>> gold necklaces. you see why the spanish just freaked out when they came here, turned into maniacal greed heads. but history does not have to be boring. it can be sexy. i don't know whether you knew this, but i am an aficionado of early erotica of pre-colombian and post-colombian eras, you know, pottery of people doing it. >> i should have known that. >> turns out things can get pretty interesting back in the day. oh, yeah. those guys could get crazy and get wild and apparently very kinky. >> the erotic gallery. there you go. that's a conversation starter. >> i take eric to the pre-colombian boning section, actually the erotic pottery section. slip of the tongue. >> amazing. >> which sounds about as much fun as an all nude renaissance fair, but is actually pretty cool. nothing new under the sun these pre-colombian horn dogs didn't think of first.
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man, a chicken. >> i'm not sure i understand this one, tony. >> i think we frown on that these days. wow, they're doing it under a blanket. this must be after the spanish arrived to teach them shame. ew, skeletons with boners. >> they are zombies. >> getting zombie old-fashioned. >> yes, tony. i really appreciate your knowledge. >> i wonder if this was decorative or whether this was really porn. >> they probably had it in a closet somewhere. >> i bet this was right on the
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table. come on in, have a cup of tea. sit down. oh. here's some animal-on-animal action. pretty awesome. >> yeah. this is interesting. yeah. i'm happy we made it here, tony. that was an enlightened moment. ♪ >> something about steamy xxx pre-colombian erotica always makes me hungry. luckily at night, lima comes alive with the smell and familiar enticing sound of sizzling meat. it's time for delicious screamingly hot garlicky spicy flavor jack street meats. and as anybody who knows me is well aware, i love me some street meat. >> it is starting to disappear. >> really? why?
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>> because the neighbors, they -- >> they complain? >> -- complain. >> our friend, coque, brought us to this place, to dona pochita, a street stall named for the lady who runs the joint. they specialize in one thing. anticuchos is -- for skewered meat. this stuff, they say, goes back all the way to the incas and as immediately popular with the spanish conquistadors as it is today. which is to say, i must have some. traditionally a mix of beef hearts and other animal parts. >> hearts and gizzards. >> marinated in garlic, cumin, and onion, maybe a little vinegar. >> oh, yeah. >> grill that up and pile it high. >> these are not small portions. these people are giving you mountains of food. it does not get any better. voila. let's do it.
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♪ man, that's awesome. >> yeah. beef hearts. that is some magical [ muted ] right there. >> it's very garlicky. the marinade is nice. the tripe? from the pollo. chicken heart. >> that is seriously tasty. the beef heart or the chicken heart, the texture is so nice. [ speaking foreign language ]. >> all right. i'm maxed out. really delicious. excellent. oh. see that? great job. ok, now let's get ready for the ball... here it comes... here you go. good catch. perfect! alright now for the best part. let's see your pour. ohhh...let's get those in the bowl. these are way too good to waste, right? oh, yea. let's go for it... around the bowl and...
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the city of chiclayo lies about 400 miles northwest of lima. it's peru's fourth largest city, with over a half million people living there. it's our next stop, the staging area for our trip to the mountains to find our cocao. chocolate. i mean, we know we like the stuff, but how is it made? where does it come from? columbus was the first european to encounter cocao beans on a mayan trading canoe off the coast of honduras. he's said to have grabbed both crew and cargo and brought them back to spain. a few decades later a spanish conquistador, hernando cortez, came across aztecs using the
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sacred beans as a drink. it was considered the drink of the gods. like most expensive and delicious things from abroad, the largely inbred and frequently syphilitic european royalty did their best to keep what was fast becoming a craze for hot chocolate to themselves. but it soon found its way to america. in 1765, the first chocolate factory opened in new england. chiclayo's main market is a massive one-stop shop for all things chocolate as well as just about everything else under the sun. oh, man, you've got your animal skulls. that's tempting. haircut? >> i'm good. >> wow. >> cacao. >> this is the raw beans? >> that is toasted. and then she -- >> grinds it.
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>> then she puts it in a mold. gracias. >> bitter. >> not sweet at all. >> no. >> they don't put sugar. >> actually, here we are in the area of the market that is, i believe, where they have what they call santarias. >> ripert, how should i put it? let's say he has more of a spiritual side than me. >> this is all the ingredients that you need for the shaman to bless the rest of the cacao. >> okay. >> so he has us shopping for what i guess i'd call shamanic supplies. which place are we going to? i like the lady with the sunglasses. >> i like it too. >> medical medicinal herbs with supposed magical properties and stuff for this shaman to bless the cacao crop. [ speaking foreign language ] >> this one is amazing. smells really good and supposedly purify the house. >> smells like hippie.
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>> no, but it's interesting. the shamans are really well respected in the inca and aztec culture. they cure everything, do ceremonies. >> good? >> yes. >> our journey continues by road as we leave chiclayo and head east toward the andes. >> originally two hours north from here. you have the indians welcome you -- >> with blow darts. >> yeah. >> before we get too deep into the mountains, we're stopping off to meet our shaman. [ speaking foreign language ] >> anthony, he's going to teach us how to do the bath for the plants and for us. >> okay. [ speaking foreign language ] >> it's a meteor stone.
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that's it here, and the chest. a little bit like that. >> we wanted a blessing for our cacao harvest. we got this. my aura is now cleaner than gwyneth paltrow's colon after a three-month juice cleanse. to a successful harvest. [ speaking foreign language ] but we're not done. we've got to transport this stuff to our trees and finish the job ourselves. >> i know you won't believe it but the energy has changed. i'm serious, not joking. i'm not joking. >> listen, i'm not disbelieving. i have an open mind. eric and i are heading to the maranon canyon, eight hours by car from chiclayo, well into the andean highlands. ♪ on the way, we stop for lunch and meet up with this guy.
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[ speaking foreign language ] >> chris curtin, master chocolatier and our business partner in this knuckle-headed adventure. one of life's great joys, eating in a peruvian market. >> i love markets for breakfast. it's nice. >> so basically, a hen soup. that's good. where in the world does chocolate come from? >> well, 45% from ivory coast in africa. but we don't deal in those beans just because of political situations. >> there was this stuff, the special chocolate. >> yeah. >> which pretty much is what we're here to look at. >> yes. absolutely. >> where it comes from, what's involved. >> eric ate some of chris's chocolate and heard about these wild cacao trees he was sourcing from in peru and promptly got me involved in this designer chocolate bar business. >> i'm a rather famous guy and i
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never really gave [ muted ] about desserts. you on the other hand, eat chocolate everyday? >> everyday. >> so here we are, three men and a chocolate bar. good thing for the world or exploitive opportunism, yet to be determined. what do i, after all, know about chocolate? next to freaking nothing. >> it's good like that, right? >> like oliver twist. yeah, we used to eat it like that in the orphanage. success starts with
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the maranon canyon. we're headed to meet some of the farmers who supply the beans that make our chocolate and get me an education in all things cacao. the roads up into these mountains can be tricky, so we have to take care of the loccal vigilante dudes that run a roadblock here outside of town. it looks like a shakedown but they're a welcome sight. this hill, where cars have to slow down, was where all sorts of highwaymen and miscreants used to waylay travellers like us. so these guys stepped in to take care of business. >> wow, that was a big shotgun. that will shoot through an engine block. actually, i don't really know but i'm assuming.
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at this time of year, there's also the rain and mud, which can mean flooded streets and streams that cut right across the roads. and there's this, the river. in the best of circumstances, a fairly adventurous way to get your vehicles across, a long line a cross a fast-moving current, the ferry propelled only by the flow of water. but today, the river is too high and the current too fast. it's these smaller boats or nothing. when dealing with complex transportation issues, the best thing to do is pull up with a cold beer and let somebody else figure it out. >> yeah. let's go in the boat. >> to my crew, i say good luck. we're headed for what looks like bar on the other side. [ speaking foreign language ]. let me tell you, it's quite a ride. >> i'll go the last.
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♪ >> water inside the boat. look, look, look. the boat is sinking. ♪ >> you got to go down and then up, just right! we make it to the other side reasonably dry. beer? the maranon canyon is home to a wide range of species including and most interesting to us a strain of the cacao previously thought to be almost extinct. a few years ago, the valley's
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cacao trees were genetically tested at a u.s. lab and had dna of the rarest form of cacao in the world. this stuff. don fortunato is our cacao connection, a farmer whose family has been working these mountains for over 40 years. >> they're just absolutely beautiful when they start out. >> really kooky looking pods as they just come off the trunk of the tree. they sort of look like someone glued them to the side of a tree. this is a once a year crop? >> it grows continuously but this is a peak seasons. >> try that. put one in your mouth. bite it and see the nibs inside? those are the cocoa nib. >> where does chocolate come from? >> the bean. okay. here's where chocolate comes from. the trees produce pods. you split open the pods and take out the beans.
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the buyer sun drys the beans, then roasts them. after roasting, the beans are extracted from their shells and ground up, producing chocolate liqueur. mix this concentrate with milk, sugar, cacao butter and you get what we call commercial chocolate. now, our chocolate bar sells for a nosebleed price that's high by even premium chocolate standards. so where does the money go? most importantly to me and eric, are we doing a good thing? here's how it breaks down. the raw cacao costs one chunk. labor, the inner sleeve, this much. design, box, packaging, this much. various sundry equipment and miscellaneous, another small chunk. chris, me, and eric each get a
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slice out of every bar. that leaves this much, which the retailer takes. chef bleeding heart hippie here has already convinced me to give whatever meager profits we make off our first bar to a local charity. >> what's unusual about these pods? these beans? >> extremely high quality flavor. >> thought not around for a while? >> this is what almost all chocolate was made of over 120 years ago. and now it's making a jie -- giant comeback. for a chocolatier, this is a once in a lifetime find. >> about 40% of the beans from these trees have white cacao beans mixed in. the rest are purplish in color. but we've heard of an ultra rare group of trees elsewhere further up the mountains that produce pods of all 100% pure white beans and that's something that me and eric are very interested in down the road. but for now, don fortunato's daughter, johanna, has prepared us a traditional peruvian mountain meal. >> wow. >> oh! >> juanes. >> it's rice dumplings with
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boiled egg, chicken, and achiote inside. >> wow. this is amazing. not surprisingly, some cuy, or guinea pig, of which there seems to be many around for the taking. this preparation served with a cacao sauce. >> that's good. >> all of this food is delicious. >> so chocolate, it is a luxury food item. >> yes. >> this is an area abundant with coffee, chocolate, fruit. how's life for the locals? [ speaking foreign language ] >> he says that 20 years ago, 25 years ago, it was easier for him. he was planting soybeans and coffee. >> right. >> he was making much more money. and then he didn't plant soybeans any longer and the coffee production went down so therefore he had a financial struggle for a while and now with the cacao trees they are planting, he has no more stress
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eric and i are intrigued by these ultra rare, white chocolate beans from a farmer, so we set up a meeting with another farmer elsewhere in the valley. we thought it would be a nice gestu gesture, given all the culinary talent between us, to make him and his family dinner in return for his hospitality. >> what are you thinking? >> butterfly marinade grill. >> you could do that with a nice sauce -- sausage. >> which would be nice to throw in with stew. in chorizo, chicken, onion, peppers, a little bit of spice. >> and potatoes? we're kind of moving into the spanish and what's it called? >> and we can use shrimp from the guy. shrimp and chicken works. >> that sounds like a plan. [ speaking foreign language ] >> you have 24? >> yeah.
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>> successful. >> yes. so far. but wait until we arrive there. it's going to be interesting. >> don't be a downer, man. i'm optimistic. we arrive at the village where the fabled white cacao beans are said to be growing and meet with the village's unofficial mayor and our cacao farmer, who will lead us to the trees. >> okay, we're going to follow him. >> what was depicted as a short walk up a short incline turned out to be an epic hump up one hill after another. >> when you tire up, you tell us. >> when i slump to the ground and urinate all over myself, that will probably be a tip that i probably want to stop. another reason i hate the swiss, mountains. >> i love mountains. >> eric, who grew up in the pyrenees, is up the slopes like a gazelle. me, i feel every year of my
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misspent life with every step. >> oh, geez. >> this is cacao. >> are we there? >> no, no, we're not there. he's a baby. he's resting because he only has 22 trees. >> i wish i could hear you over the sound of my exploding capillaries. >> okay. by the time we get near the fabled trees, i'm toast. gasping for air, waiting to puke from the altitude and the exertion. >> so, tell us again, what's unique about these trees? >> just because they are all white beans, all white. >> which is a rarity. >> so these are the only known all-white, 100% pure? >> that's right. >> and why is that good? >> it's a new variety and gives different flavor profiles to it. >> a good flavor profile? >> yes. >> i assume because i've humped up a big [ muted ] hill. excuse me.
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oh, nice catch. machete. >> watch your fingers, man. yeah. that's it. >> there we go. and i'm going to repeat myself. >> all white. >> remember the shaman. well, we still have stuff to do with the package he gave us. we do, presumably, want a good crop. better get right with the spirit world. >> oh, geez. a little shaman juice thrown around, bury the purified soil, and there you go. chocolate magnates. well, good luck, dude, to a good harvest. >> done deal.
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back to basics. wood fire. ingredients from the morning market and this old recycling system. here little fella. >> i'm ready for chicken. >> okay. here we go. >> and the red wine. >> notice how i neatly maneuvered you into the [ muted ] job. >> now we have to make the mashed potato and we're good. >> eric's mashed potato secret, around 50% butter. the glory that is france. i think they call it gout. okay. let's do it. ♪ [ speaking foreign language ] >> gracias. >> you guys can cook. >> some say. >> sometimes. [ speaking foreign language ] >> he's the only guy who has the white cacao. he asked all the farmers in the village here to do exactly what
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he has done, so the other farmers are starting to copy him. >> right. >> and he's happy because it's going to bring wealth, in the village and in the valley and the community. afterwards, don makes a traditional unsweetened hot chocolate preparation. ground cacao nibs, no sweetener, no nothing. just like the ancient kings liked it. >> there we go. gracias. the real deal. >> only water, and they will use -- >> before chocolate hit europe. this is what the aztec kings would drink. >> they would be jealous right now. >> you'll get yours eventually. >> gracias. mucho gracias. salud. >> that's good salud. >> salud. >> gentlemen, to education. >> yes. >> so, did we do the right
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thing? is it all right for two new yorkers to make money, however much or however little, off the work of struggling farmers in a faraway land? fortunada, alberto, chris, everybody down the line, all the way to the families who pick the pods off the trees, seem pretty happy to be doing what they are doing. but do i want to be in the chocolate business? that's something i'm going to have to figure out. but for now one last thing needs to be done to fulfill our shamanic obligations. >> guys, you have to get out. the guy is coming with his bike, and he doesn't care. >> a bridge. a bundle of eucalyptus leaves. a badly working lighter. got to get right. >> smells like ganga. do you have a lighter? >> we need to burn this stuff and pass it around our bodies three times.
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>> got something? >> oh, too moist. oh, you got it, man. >> okay. >> smoking. that's smoking. i'm going to get it. hold on. now i've got it. >> let's do it. >> okay. oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. it's coming. i got it. we did it. >> over. >> okay. done. hey. we have a problem with chocolate, i tell you that. >> get into the coffee business. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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