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it. >> full nudity does not need to be the bedrock of this brand. it's about lifestyle, entertainment. i say we give aspirin for the headache of people's lives. >> reporter: and it's hef who still makes the final decisions on who you see in the magazine. >> alison kosik, thank you. i'm jake tapper. turning you over to mr. wolf blitzer next door in "the situation room." thanks for watching. happening now, breaking news, anthrax error. the u.s. military mistakenly ships anthrax in its deadliest form to multiple states. this the latest in the series of anthrax slip-ups. what's behind such a potentially lethal mistake? isis plane threat new reports say isis sympathizers may be responsible for major threats against airliners, snarling air traffic and creating holiday havoc. is this a strategy or a rehearsal for something more sinister? loss of thrust one of the
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world's most popular airplanes has both engines fail in midair during a storm. how could it have happened and what does it mean for millions of people flying on similar planes? and running again, rick santorum joins the republican race for the white house hoping to repeat his 2012 successes, including the country's first caucus. can he rekindle the political magic? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the"the situation room"." we're following multiple breaking stories in the war on isis including disturbing new reports of isis fighters fortifying their positions as well as planting bombs and boboby traps around key iraqi cities. there's also breaking news involving a potentially deadly mistake by the united states military. it shipped live anthrax to laboratories in at least nine states.
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the centers for disease control and prevention have been called in. they are investigating. congressman john garamendi is standing by to take our questions. our correspondents and experts are working their sources. they're standing by to bring us the very latest on all the breaking news. let's go to our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. she's got the very latest. >> reporter: wolf the centers for disease control and the defense department looking into all of this. right now, they know that last friday a shipment of live anthrax inadvertently went to one lab in one state. but overall, shipments were made to nine states. so now the cdc is collecting up all of those samples and trying to make sure that none of the other samples were actually live anthrax agent. but look at how widespread this problem is. the states that got the shipments in this original situation were wisconsin, delaware new york texas, maryland new jersey tennessee california and virginia.
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they're not saying yet which lab in which state got the live agent by mistake. that lab reported it to the cdc. the pentagon then informing labs in all the other states. so they're trying to get a handle on it. right now, they don't have any reports that anyone is ill. but the problem here wolf is how did it happen? it's not the first time. how does this happen that live agent gets ship and nobody realizes it? >> it's obviously a problem. they have to figure it out and fix it. let's go to the battle against isis right now, barbara. is the iraqi army going to be able to retake that critically important city the capital of anbar province? >> reporter: look, the iraqis are making a lot of statements about their success. the pentagon looking at the facts on the ground as they see them is saying they don't see a big change in the battlefield. the iraqis are conducting probing attacks against isis positions outside the city. but, no the iraqis have not surrounded the city.
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they haven't gotten into the city yet and isis is continuing to reinforce its bunkers, its booby traps, its bombs, its protective installations in ramadi and indeed a supply line for isis remains open in the west. >> barbara, stand by. we're getting details on another breaking story. a new fbi warning about the growing threat posed by isis sympathizers right here inside the united states. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto has been working his sources for us. what are you learning? >> the new fbi joint intelligence bulletin warns that u.s. military law enforcement and government inlationsulationininstallations are at an increased threat. it was issued this weekend because isis and terror groups often time their attacks to holidays and other symbolic dates to maximize their impact. the u.s. law enforcement official tells me the current
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posture is, quote, prudent and very concerned. of particular concern to u.s. law enforcement is isis' aggressive and successful often online propaganda campaign thousands of people here in the u.s. have at least shown interest in isis online. u.s. officials fear some of them could be inspired to then carry out attacks on homeland and a real challenge for law enforcement is the sheer volume of online communication and contact among known jihadis, suspected jihadis and others on social media. and that is acknowledged in this joint intelligence bulletin. they're just having trouble collating all this stuff, tracking all this stuff. one of the most difficult judgments to make is does simply following someone on twitter or facebook doesn't make you terrorist. how do you make the judgment that they might then go on to buy a weapon build a bomb and carry out on attack? proving difficult here in the u.s. and for european law enforcement as we saw with the "charlie hebdo" attack. >> u.s. officials keep telling me and i'm sure they tell you as
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well they're constantly surprised how good these isis sympathizers supporters are in using social media. >> there's no question. we saw another one of them rear his head again. he was known to be in contact with one of the texas shooters in garland, texas. he's a british isis recruiter. he had been taken off twitter. but he's back on twitter posting information. his contact, to encourage people if they want to in his words, bake a cake, which is terrorist lingo for making a bomb. so he's out there again trying to find new recruits. >> al qaeda in the arabian peninsula have that magazine and one of their cover stories is "how to build a bomb in the kitchen of your mom." jim, thanks very much. more on what's going on joining us democratic congressman john garamendi of california a member of the house armed services committee. congressman, a lot of stuff i want to go through with you. let's talk about these isis
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sympathizers. supposedly they may have been behind at least 15 airline threats in recent days. this according to reuters, warning the flights were carrying some form of chemical weapons. on monday two u.s. f-15 fighter jets had to escort one of those planes coming into new york, supposedly threatened. what have you learned about this? what is going on here? >> well i think there's two things one of which is very troublesome. that is that there may be a real legitimate threat on any one of those airplanes. the other is economic chaos, concern and fear that they're trying and successfully breeding all across the united states with these threats. we've often seen these crying wolf episodes in the past. we're going to see more in the future. but then we have to be very very careful that there really is a wolf or not out there. i don't mean you, wolf blitzer. but we're concerned about this.
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so we need to be aware of what is happening. but we need to be wise. we've gone all the way from 9/11 aware of potential threats. we used to have the red, orange levels yellow levels of concern. i think all of us need to be watching carefully and aware. we're going to see these kinds of threats coming down in the future. >> the question is it's a significant one, are these threats against these airliners coming in mostly from overseas flights coming in -- is it just simply a hoax or whatever? somebody think it's fun to get everybody crazy, if you will and get these f-15s scrambling as these planes come in or are they testing to see how it unfolds in case they're plotting something a lot more sinister? do you have a sense of what's going on in this area right now? >> i would suppose it might be both. certainly by putting in a false threat, that creates concern. that makes everybody scramble. it upsets the normal system. you may see again the scrambling
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of jet fighter planes to escort airplanes in. all of those things upset the normal rhythm of economic and social life. and certainly that is and has been one of the techniques used by terrorists and others who just want to cause trouble. but it could also be a possibility of testing and watching for the response and trying to find the weak spot that might exist. so from our point of view we need to be very much aware of what we are facing on the military on the police side and on the various intelligence agencies. >> and if it is a hoax somebody thinking they're having some fun, they should be fully aware this is a crime. they could wind up spending years in jail if they do this. >> absolutely. >> so this is not simply having some fun at the expense of the united states the military whatever. this is a serious potential crime. you're going to go to jail for a long time if you're caught doing this. congressman, there's a georgia man who pleaded guilty today for
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providing support to isis. he was arrested at the atlanta airport after he purchased a ticket to fly to turkey. how will the fbi change the targeting of these individuals based on these most recent developments? it seems almost every other day or so somebody is being picked up in the united states for trying to hook up with isis. >> actually that's a very good thing, that we're finding them, we're picking them up. there may be some that slip through. but what we do know is that they are in communication. we discussed some time ago the way in which it often happens with a twitter account. that is perfectly legitimate for the police agencies fbi, nsa and others to monitor those. those are open source gather up the names of the accounts and the individuals and then proceed to watch them quite possibly with an appropriate court order. if that's the case, we know where they are. that's a good thing to know where they are and who they are and if they're getting on an airplane you just escort them off to the local prison.
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>> congressman, i want you to stand by. we have much more to talk about including what's going on in iraq right now. this war against isis and some now calling for what they call a three-state solution in iraq. we'll be right back. if you suffer from a dry mouth then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be. but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? well, there is biotene specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants... biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth.
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we're following the breaking news in the war against isis. the pentagon reporting isis
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fighters are digging in planting booby traps around the key iraqi city of ramadi and only isis fighters they say are in the city despite iraqi government claims a counteroffensive is under way. we're back with democratic congressman john garamendi of california. he's a member of the house armed services committee. congressman, the white house communications director jen psaki said we need to adopt our strategy in the fight against isis. here's the question why has it taken so long for the administration to admit the current strategy is clearly not working, that they need to come up with something better? >> well i think we need to go back to what that strategy original was. it was one of turning the iraqi government around so that we have a new government and one that was much broader in context, that it wasn't just based on the shias. that has happened but it is not yet complete. we also had to rebuild the iraqi
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army which was in disarray. all of that will take some additional time. so the real problem we're going to have to deal with is what is adaptation. does that mean we have to send boots on the ground? i think not. at some point, the u.s. congress is going to have to carry out its constitutional responsibility of coming to grips with a declaration of war or what we now call an authorization to use military force. we have not done that. most have just sat back and thrown verbal stones at the situation where we really are going to have to vote yes or no what are we actually going to do in iraq and syria. >> i spent some time earlier today with democratic congresswoman tulsi gabbard of hawaii. she served a tour of duty in iraq before going to the united states congressman. she told me very specifically the united states should stop in her words, propping up that central government shia-led government in baghdad. listen to what she said.
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>> we need to make sure that we stop continuing this failed policy of supporting and propping up this central government in baghdad and this fantasy, really of a one unified country of iraq and support this three-state solution of empowering the sunni tribes empowering the kurds and the shias, each of them having three autonomous territories rather than continuing what we've seen really has failed for so long. by doing this we can get rid of the oxygen that has allowed isis to maintain its stronghold here within this area of iraq. >> what do you think, congressman? you agree with her? >> well i don't really agree with her. it has been discussed. it continues to be discussed. actually the lines, the borders were drawn shortly after world war i by the europeans. and in many respects the united states has become the executor
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of those agreements that were made nearly a century ago. so there is a realignment taking place. but you start changing those borders and you've got turkey and other countries that are going to look at that and go i don't know if that's a good idea. so we've got to move very very cautiously before we head down any path that way. will it become a reality? boy, you take a look what's going to come of baghdad? is baghdad then going to become a suburb of iran? they're already close. we have to think through this thing. right now, the policy that's been established is one that is best suited for the current situation. we are going to have to be willing to adapt and change as things move along. one thing that has not taken place fully in that original strategy was to bring in the surrounding countries that are directly threatened by isil for example, turkey saudi arabia jordan and the other gulf states. they've stood on the sidelines,
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they did a little bit of military aircraft bombing early on. they may be doing a little bit now. but they certainly have not put their boots on the ground. >> should the u.s. continue to arm the iraqi military? because we know it's performed dismally both in mosul a year ago, in ramadi much more recently even though they vastly outnumber the isis terrorists in ramadi for example, these iraqi military personnel simply drop their weapons, mostly u.s. weapons, and ran away. is it a good idea to continue supplying weapons to the iraqi military? >> we have no choice but to do that, consider what happens if we don't. you're going to have isis sitting in downtown baghdad. so that is a real non-starter, at least from my point of view. so yes, we must continue to arm them and train them. my understanding is that the iraqi troops that left their weapons behind and ran away from
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ramadi were not those troops trained by the american government. that those american-trained troops were not yet engaged. so i think we have no choice but to arm the iraqi government. some of those arms as ms. gabbard said should be going to the sunni fighters that want to fight on the sides of a united iraq. and obviously some of that is also going to the peshmerga, the kurds. that is presently flowing through the central government to give those weapons directly would basically put the united states at odds with the central government and quite possibly accelerate a complete breakdown of any centralized government in that area. >> it's a pretty awful situation. i have to wrap it up. but i'll remind you what the defense secretary of the united states ash carter told our barbara starr the other day, the iraqi military including u.s.-trained members of the iraqi military in ramadi in his
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words, they showed no will to fight even though they vastly outnumbered those isis terrorists. we'll have a lot more to talk about, congressman, always appreciate you joining us. thanks very much. >> anytime. coming up next we have new information about terror data recovered in a deadly u.s. raid. will it help the war against isis. a plane with almost 200 people onboard drops 13,000 feet after both engines fail during a storm. what happened? stand by.
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>> we can create jobs. but as we've all seen america can't succeed unless we strengthen the first economy, the american family. it's time we have a president who sees the struggle of working families in america not as an opportunity to divide us along race or class but as a chance to unite us around the ideal that every child in america deserves her birthright to be raised by her parents in a healthy home.
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stronger families and more jobs will result in better schools. but our children well they deserve an education customized to maximize their potential. the first step in that process is joining me to drive a stake in the heart of common core. he v.a. in butler. our wounded warriors. i saw the price of freedom. i saw the cost of failed political leadership. the obama/clinton team they
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don't understand that peace comes through strength. [ cheers and applause ] but what i see are heroic veterans dying, waiting in line at the v.a. because these very same leaders don't care enough to give them what they've earned the best medical care in the world. i say, join me take back america and help these veterans.
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. and the white house is the last place for on-the-job training. it's critical that both our allies and our friends know what to expect from our next president. last month i was featured in an online magazine. that's usually a good thing. but in this case the online magazine was the magazine of the islamic state, isis. under the headline "in the words of our enemy" was my picture and a quote. after 12 years of legislating and warning about the gathering storm of radical islam, they
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know who i am and i know who they are. [ cheers and applause ] d, ladies and gentlemen, if i'm the next president, we will defeat them. our god-given rights of life and liberty. as president, i will stand for the principle that every life
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matters, the poor the disabled and the unborn. called to believe, not just in your places of worship, but outside of your places of worship, too. karen and i have learned a lot in our life. and if there's one thing we've learned, man is limited and god is not.
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there's much that we can do. but first we need to pray for the same kind of great awakening that inspired and provided our founding to come to this country to heal our land. now, if you watch any of these announcements here coming up this week you're going to see a lot of folks saying what they're going to do. that's what they do. but how do you know who to trust? you look at their record. i went to washington and said i was going to fight corruption and i delivered. i went to end welfare, to reduce poverty and to put people back to work and i delivered.
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i went to give patients control over their health care through health savings accounts and i delivered. i went to end partial birth abortion, and i delivered. i went to impose sanctions on syria and iran to protect the state of israel and this country, and i delivered. and i went to cut taxes and promise to never raise them, and i delivered. our record of standing for you
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and standing up against big government is clear. 92% conservative voting record. how does someone like that get elected in the mon valley of pittsburgh in one of the most democratic areas of the state? how does someone with a conservative voting record get elected twice to the state of pennsylvania where there's over 1 million more registered democrats than republicans? because i stood for you and against big government in washington, d.c. across pennsylvania i know what it's like to be an underdog.
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four years ago, well no one gave us much of a chance. but we won 11 states. we got 4 million votes. and it's not just because i stood for something. it's because i stood for someone, the american worker. i promised then as i promise you now now. i will take money and power out of washington and put it back where our constitution says it belongs. in the people who earned it.
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god's grace, we can change this nation. [ cheers and applause ] join us, join us. ricksantorum.com and let's take back america. god bless you. god bless america. >> there he is rick santorum the former pennsylvania senator, former republican presidential candidate, now yet again republican presidential candidate in cabot, pennsylvania where his family
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there, his wife obviously making his case. gloria borger our chief political analyst is with us as well. he did very well four years ago. he won the iowa caucuses barely but he did win -- >> 34 votes. >> but he won. he carried 11 states. he didn't get the nomination, though. he's trying again. >> and don't forget he also lost the iowa primary by less than 1%. and what i'm seeing here today, wolf is a rick santorum with a bit of a different twist. we know he's a conservative evangelical candidate, appeals to that slice of the electorate. bued field this time. what we heard in rick santorum today was the candidate who's really trying to appeal to blue-collar voters as he said who want to take the power back against big government running as he says on behalf of the american worker. as a republican. he believes he's got a lot of blue-collar appeal. don't forget as he points out, he won statewide in pennsylvania.
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and then he also talked about his national security credentials, which, as you see in the polling -- i was talking to a senior adviser of his today, that's near the top of the polls for republican candidates right now. and he's saying look i was fighting isis before anyone knew about isis. i've been singled out by isis. i was on the senate armed services committee, i have the most foreign policy experience and the toughest credentials of any candidate in the republican field. so first blue collar second national security and third, the values candidate where it's a little crowdeded. >> he said being president is not an entry level. is that going after president obama or some of his potential republican opponents? >> i think both. clearly going after the president but also you have first-term senators running like marco rubio, rand paul ted
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cruz. and what he is saying is no on-the-job training for commander in chief. and he's going to try and break out of the pack with this kind of experience that he says he has from the senate. one other thing he has which we also ought to point out is his big backer foster freese is sticking with him, going to continue to be with him. he's there with him today for this announcement speech. and do not underestimate that because that engine was what kept him going. the last time around. and he's in it for the long haul counting delegates this time. important to have the money. >> you have a billionaire, that always helps. rick santorum the next republican to seek the republican presidential nomination. more on this story coming up. there's other news we're following as well including this both engines die as a fully loaded airliner flies through a storm. we're learning new details of the midair scare.
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we're following breaking news. a new fbi warning about the growing threat posed by isis sympathizers right here inside the united states. the alarm follows this month's unexpected attack by a pair of men near dallas. a law enforcement source telling cnn there are now growing concerns about isis-inspired attacks in the xwrits. with us in "the situation room,"
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retired general mark hertling phil mudd and peter bergen. thanks for joining us. reuters is reporting that these recent 11 plain threats may have some from isis simp thiters. how can you stop anything like this? somebody makes a random call and says there are chemical weapons on a plane coming into jfk into new york you have to scramble jets? >> a couple of ways to attack stuff like this. the digital trail. did this person make a mistake if they phoned in their threat? and did they talk to the wrong person and indicate to a friend family that they were going to do this? the one piece that's making this spy story tougher is that we've talked about the government collecting more intelligence, e-mail phone traffic. meanwhile, private citizens have more access to things like
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anonmizers and things that allow them to get online and obscure who they are. so this might get tougher because some of that over-the-counter software is tougher to track. >> worrisome development. does isis peter, really have the capability to launch some sort of chemical attack here in the united states? does isis have that capability? >> i think the short answer is no. the parent organization of isis al qaeda in iraq launched some weapons attacks in iraq when the u.s. was occupying the country. but that's different from getting someone on a plane into this country and conducting an attack here. >> it could be a big threat general hertling if the u.s. aviation industry if these threats keep coming in and the u.s. air force or the navy have to start scrambling jets. that's a big deal isn't it? >> it is wolf. and right after 9/11 you may recall being in washington that there was an operation called noble eagle which not only
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scrambled jets but put air defense systems around the perimeter of major cities. this is a last-ditch effort for scrambling either active duty or national guard air force jets to intercept. but that's not where you want to be. that would really be last ditch. >> phil barbara starr reporting that the so-called cfo of isis was killed not that long ago. they did find what they called huge amounts of information. if you were going through that information, what would you be looking for right now? >> you have to prioritize. the first is imminent threat. you're going to have a team of analysts working overnight, multiple agencies working in tandem. first question is is there anything on there that suggests there was a plot about ready to explode? then you go to secondary issues. number one, people. are there people who he's talking to people he's been in contact with that help you identify a bigger web of isis sympathizers sympathizers? then you get into further issues.
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things like do you have a pattern of activity around buildings, cities that allows you to disrupt cells? but the first thing you want to look at in this case is is there information on here that suggests that there was a plot about ready to go up that you didn't know about? >> you went through the bin laden raid documents that were found there, all the thumb drives and all that stuff, useful information. how useful potentially could this information be? >> it's particularly useful in the potential criminal implication. but adding to phil's laundry list, you're looking for money flows. if this guy was a cfo, we'll have ledgers about where the money was going, to whom it was being paid and where was the money coming into the organization. >> getting to ramadi general hertling very quickly, isis apparently launching these booby trap s, improvised explosive devices all over the city in case iraqi forces or shiite
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militia come in. this represents a huge problem, doesn't it? >> it does. it gets back to the isis tactic of infiltrate intimidate assassinate and then continue to attempt to control. these house-borne ieds, the road-laid ieds are all devastating. and they're easy to make with material from fertilizer or if you have artillery peaces they're even simpler. this is the way of war today. it's going to affect the attempt at retaking the city by the iraqi security forces. >> guys stand by. we're also following an in-flight scare. a jet with 194 people onboard losing power as both engines died during a storm, the plane dropping 13,000 feet. our cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh is working this story for us. rene, what is going on? >> reporter: wolf it was a brand-new plane, not even a year old. and the jetliner loses power to
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both engines midair a highly uncommon occurrence. now an investigation is under way to figure out what caused these frightening moments in the air. singapore airlines flight 836 with 194 onboard was flying over the south china sea bound for shanghai when both engines went out. the sudden loss of power at 39,000 feet as the jetliner passed through bad weather. within seconds, the aircraft dropped nearly 13,000 feet. >> the pilot has to basically put the plane that's now lost power in its engines in a dive and that wind going through those engines spins the turbines and helps the pilots get a relight. but even with a relight, getting your engines actually going again, the fuel is burning, you have to be able to sustain those engines. so it's a really tricky maneuver maneuver. >> reporter: singapore airlines says the problem started about 3 1/2 hours after departing from
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singapore. they say one engine regained power while pilots worked on the second. >> that is something that they're trained to do. and in all cases on all planes there is a point at which the manuals say, don't try any more diving restarts. just look for a place to put it down and set it down. >> reporter: this is the latest of several >> reporter: this is the latest of several incidents involving asian airliners. in february both anyones on a transasia flight lost power. flight 235 crashed into a river in taiwan. in december airasia flight 8501 an airbus they 20 disappeared from radar and crashed into the java sea minutes after the pilot asked for clearance to climb in altitude to avoid bad weather. and malaysia airlines flight 370 from kuala lumpur to beijing disappeared without a trace more than a year ago. as for siege pore airlines this
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year it was rated one of the top ten safest airlines. while the airlines tells once cnn was on the ground they found no anomalies with the engines, the aircraft was back in operation just a few hours later. we did speak with a former federal aviation officer who said in the unit would not be back in service that quickly. it is worth pointing out if the pilots were unable to restart those engines the plane would not fall out of the sky. it is capable of gliding for miles. we should point out the working theory right now is that bad weather may have caused this a severe downpour of rain can cause engines to flame out. >> yeah can be very very frightening, thank you very much. i want to dig deeper with our aviation correspondent richard quest. both engines, they lose power. how unusual is that? >> it's extremely unusual. one can count on the fingers of one, maybe two hands, the number of times it's happened.
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when it does there are procedures as renee points out. you go into a gradual descent to make sure you get maximum amount of distance before you have to ditch. you do have to dive to get the engineds started again. nobody would be under any doubt, it is one of the most serious things that can happen because obviously you need the engines for powered flight. the most famous of all is in 1982 british airways flight 9, where engines stopped because they became clogged with volcanic ash. there the pilot famously said to the passengers that all the engines had stopped on the 747, he was doing his damnedest to get them started, and he hoped they were not in too much distress. >> elaborate about those engines all of a sudden went back and got back on power. they're going to try to determine what happened. >> that's the interesting part wolf. because when engines stop it's either because of bad weather, the sheer amount of water un
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ingested into the engine. here we could also be looking at some sort of fuel event. again, british airways 32 at heathrow, ice crystals prevented the aircraft from receiving fuel. they won't know until they really get to grips with it. what i find fascinating is the decision to do two things. firstly, once the engines have restarted, to continue the flight to shanghai. and secondly after only a four-hour review on the ground to fly the plane with passengers back to singapore. that tells me they were pretty certain they knew what had happened. they knew what the cause was. but there are some people in the industry that are saying that might not have been the wisest thing to do in either situation. >> is this model airbus -- should the faa in the united states investigate this particular airbus plane? >> it wouldn't just be the airbus you'd be looking at the
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engine. and the plane is absolutely safe. you know we can point to many -- to other examples where, for example, it was a 777 with british airways where the engines stopped. you have the famous case of the azores glider where the engines ran out of fuel. you've got to determine what caused it. once you've determined that you ask yourself was it the aircraft the engines, or was it the way it was being flown? or was it one of those things? >> richard quest, thanks very much for the information. up next breaking news. new information on an anthrax scare here in the united states. the united states military mistakenly shipping live anthrax to laboratories in at least nine states. vice president joe biden goes after the russian president vladamir putin with some very tough talk. will the u.s. back it up by starting to send lethal weapons to ukraine?
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happening now. anthrax danger. the u.s. military mistakenly sends live samples of a deadly bacteria that can be used as a biological weapon to labs in nine states and overseas. how could this happen? isis targets. did the terror group have a hand in thets to more than a dozen u.s.-bound passenger jets? new information about isis and its strategy. provoking the united states.
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the white house responds to aggression by russia's vladimir putin at the same time that china is threatening america's military. i'll ask the top state department spokeswoman about brazen challenges from two powerful nations. and rising death toll. crews search for the missing in miles of floodwaters, racing to beat more severe wither that could strike very soon. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news tonight, a stunning mistake. in the u.s. military's handling of a potential biological weapon that can kill with little warning. cnn has learned that samples of live anthrax were sent to labs in nine states and overseas. also breaking a new fbi bulletin about the isis threat here in the united states. u.s. military and law enforcement personnel now under alert they're in greater risk of being targeted by terrorists. i'll ask the state department
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deputy spokeswoman about the isis threat and more. our correspondents and analysts are also standing by as we cover all the stories breaking right now. first, let's go to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. she has the very latest, barbara barbara? >> wolf on this anthrax mistake, the pentagon is insisting it doesn't know of anybody who is sick but the scope of this mistake is growing by the hour. here's how it all started last friday at the dugway proving ground in utah an army facility. a batch of anthrax was shipped out for research purposes. it went to nine states. it was supposed to be dead agent. not live anthrax. a lab in maryland reports they got live agent from the pentagon. now they are looking at the samples across eight states. agent also went to korea, u.s. forces in korea. they already have destroyed the sample they got because they believe it was likely to be live agent by mistake.
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anthrax on the korean peninsula, not the message the pentagon wants to send. and one of the things that is so concerning about this dugway the place that sent it out, has now gone back through the leftover that they had from the shipment and determined what they have back in their own facility. it too is live agent. so where are we? the cdc, the centers for disease control, and the u.s. military gathering up all of this looking at it all very closely. one official saying they believe it's probably all live agent. four workers that were involved in this lab distribution they're not telling us where they are, those workers getting post-exposure medical treatment for this. they're getting some prophylactic treatment. pentagon doesn't think they were exposed but this is a caution that is being done. the lab was in maryland that originally reported the live agent. a very very sensitive situation for the pentagon. because while they're saying
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that no one is sick no one is absolutely sure of course, until they gather up all of these samples across nine states and look at what really happened. >> the vaccination period for anthrax as we all remember from the original anthrax scare after 9/11 here in the united states could be a few weeks. why is the u.s. military even sending around anthrax? what's the military value of doing that? >> well you know there's a longstanding research program that does involve both live and dead agent where they conduct a good deal of research. not just for potential future anthrax vaccine but for biological warfare terrorism. they have to see how this agent reacts because there's so much concern out there that there at any point could someday be a terrorist attack using a biological agent like anthrax. so if you want to learn how to defend against it you have to be able to work with the agent and see how it reacts and see what you need to do to be able to defend against it.
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but, you know this time it was supposed to be dead, essentially inert spores. they were not. >> that's a major blunder. barbara, let's turn to the battle against isis in iraq. what's the assessment at the pentagon with the iraqi army's potential for retaking that city of ramadi? >> well they're looking at all the statements coming out of the baghdad government the city surrounded, that the iraqis may be able to retack it at any time. they are also looking at what they see here at the pentagon as the situation on the ground. officials are saying u.s. officials, that they don't see a big change in the battlefield so far. iraqi forces, they say, have not entered ramadi they have not surrounded ramadi. isis is still digging in reinforcing its bunkers, booby traps, car bombs and still isis able to keep a supply line open from the west to reinforce, to bring in potentially fighters supplies and additional weapons.
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it's going to be a very tough fight ahead for the iraqis. the shia militias are getting involved but there's a long way to go. >> barbara, thanks very much. there are also growing concerns tonight isis may be linked to more than a dozen threats to u.s.-bound international flights over the past few days. one of those calls brought u.s. fighter jets to scramble and escort an air france jetliner to new york's jfk airport. reuters reporting investigators' leading theory is isis sympathizers were responsible. let's get some more new about these isis threats here in the united states. jim sciutto's been reporting. >> i'm told the fbi is tracing back those calls. i'm told there has been twitter chatter in isis social media circles recently discussing how hoaxes can be nearly as effective as attacks themselves. u.s. law enforcement official tells me that the current posture here in the u.s. is "prudent" and very concerned. in another story one sign of
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that concern is a new intelligence bulletin issued this weekend alerting u.s. military law enforcement, and government installations and personnel of increased risk of attack on the u.s. homeland by isis. the new fbi joint intelligence bulletin warns u.s. military, law enforcement, and government installations and personnel are at increased risk of attack by isis. the new warning, first obtained by fox news and issued before memorial day cautions that isis and other terror groups often time their attacks to significant or symbolic days to heighten impact. the terror attack in garland, texas, earlier this month demonstrated the threat of isis supporters hiding within the united states. communicating directly with isis leaders abroad. after the shooting the security level at every military base across the country increased to bravo bravo, signifying increased and
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predictable threat of terrorism. u.s. bases generally have not been at this level since the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. u.s. law enforcement is particularly concerned about isis' aggressive and successful online propaganda campaign. thousands of people in the u.s. have shown interest in isis online and u.s. officials fear some of them could be inspired to carry out attacks here. >> it really is an expansion of how the internet has been used for several years now, both in recruitment and radicalization of young people to join terrorist groups. >> reporter: now the man believed to have been in touch with one of the texas shooters is back online encouraging new supporters. after having previous twitter accounts suspended. the british-born isis recruiter junaid hussein posted his contact information on twitter for anyone who wants to "bake a cake," a well-known code phrase for building bombs. >> groups like isil or al qaeda now are calling publicly for
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attacks in the west of people who they have never recruited specifically they have never trained. >> reporter: this new intelligence bulletin says that it's been an enormous challenge for u.s. law enforcement, the sheer volume of online communication and contact. by known jihadists, suspected jihadis, and others on social media. u.s. officials speak of thousands in the united states who show interest but that could be as simple as following someone on twitter or facebook. the the judgment call becomesed trying to figure out who among those thousands has real potential of buying a weapon building a bomb to carry out an attack and that's impossible to have all the personnel you would need to monitor everyone. it's difficult because people fall through the cracks. >> they're going to have to hire a lot more people in the coming weeks and months and years to deal with this. >> possibly or just you have to almost settle with the fact that you're not always going to get it right and that's a difficult
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thing to do. >> jim sciutto reporting, thank you. also breaking the obama white house pushing back at the russian president vladimir putin and his aggression in ukraine as tensions between the countries continue to ratchet up. our white house correspondent michelle kosinski is joining us. tough talk from the vice president today. >> tough talk on russia on vladimir putin, from vice president biden. it is talk. remember the president still hasn't made a decision on whether to send lethal aid to ukraine while russia keeps up these aggressive moves. the u.s. and its allies watch russian troops building along the ukrainian border. heavy arms still flowing in. and still more fighting with more than 6,000 people killed since this conflict began just over a year ago. the worry now, what exactly russian president vladimir putin has planned next. today vice president biden went
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after him. >> president putin's vision has very little to offer. the sleight of hand that presents the bullying of civil society s societies as substitutes for strong leadership and functioning institutions. >> reporter: calling out russia's brulgtity, aggressive repression hyperaggressive propaganda machine. president obama also used that tough talk this week. >> the increasingly aggressive posture that russia has taken -- >> reporter: meeting with the nato secretary-general. as nato expanded its cooperation, staging drills this week putin suddenly matched them. a gigantic air force exercise that nato wasn't expecting. >> they have used stop exercises as a way to mask troops on the borders of ukraine. and also to send troops into eastern ukraine. >> reporter: and putin's attempted tough guy antics continue. his near-constant digs at the west especially the u.s. frequent russian military
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30-byes near other countries' air space. no surprise that western heads of state were no-shows to his huge world war ii victory day parade this month. but what to do about russia remains the conundrum for nato allies. sanctions are wrecking its economy but not changing its behavior. lethal aid to ukraine is still being considered supported by some of president obama's closest advisers. but the vice president would say only this today -- >> that's a debate worth having and continues. my views are somewhat known on that. but more is needed to be done. >> reporter: he made those comments today a the brookings institute. you might remember it was that think tank and others including former administration officials, who recommended back in february that the u.s. and nato should arm ukraine to deter further violence. they said that this was the gravest threat to european security in more than 30 years and said "the west has the
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capacity to stop russia, the question is whether it has the will." >> michelle kosinski at the white house, thank you. let's get more from the state department deputy spokeswoman marie hearth here "the situation room." is the u.s. going to provide lethal aid military equipment to ukraine? >> as the vice president said this is a conversation that's been going on inside the administration for some time. our views on that are known. that we don't believe what needs to happen is more acceleration in terms of more arms flowing into eastern ukraine. what needs to happen is the opposite de-escalation. it's a constant conversation. we're always looking at ways to do more but nothing's changed partnership. >> what's the downside of trying to help the ukraine military with lethal u.s. or european-supplied weapons? >> we've helped the ukrainian military with training. also with nonlethal aid. there's a variety of ways we're helping them. >> what's the downside of sending them lethal military equipment? >> what we believe needs to happen is de-escalation and
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demilitarization of the situation. you have russians pouring arms and weapons in. what we believe needs to happen is implementation of the minsk agreements. i was with secretary kerry in sochi, he met with president putin, they committed publicly and privately to implementing the minsk agreements which means withdrawing weapons, withdrawing troops getting back to a border here that is respected. so they have -- >> has any of that happened since sochi? >> on the russian side this is where it's been really challenging. they haven't moved forward with their commitments. we need them to do so. there's a path forward they say they're committed to. you heard from the vice president tough talk because they haven't yet. >> you don't trust putin, do you? >> it's not about trust, it's about having on paper commitments that we can measure a country against in terms of whether or not they live up to them. you've heard the vice president and secretary kerry say, they're not doing that you're going on see more tough tough. we've put in place a lot of sanctions in order to change their calculation. >> if the russians continue to intensify their operations inside ukraine and you believe
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that they are sending in russian soldiers into ukraine right now, what's the u.s. going to do about it? >> well we've continued to impose consequences as they just mentioned on the previous report. their economy in large part is in such dire straits due to the really significant sanctions we've put in place and we will continue to look at options. but we've always said there has to be a diplomatic off-ramp here there has to be a way, if the russians mean what they say publicly for them to de-escalate here. until they do there will be increasing costs. >> you've seen these reports that russia has deployed mobile crematoriums to ukraine to dispose of bodies including russian soldiers who may be killed so there's no evidence that russian sieges are there. are these reports true? >> i've seen them and we can't independently verify them. but what we do know is there are russian soldiers in eastern ukraine, there are russian soldiers who have died in eastern ukraine, and that the russians have tried to cover up the fact that there are russian soldiers there reserve whether it's removing insignificanta off their gear they wear into battle
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whether it's stripping off the markings on a tank for example. they have tried to hide their presence their. but on that report we just can't confirm. >> maria harf i want you to stand by. isis in iraq, questions unfolding now. must have more with the state department deputy spokeswoman when we come back. the technology changes the design evolves the engineering advances. but the passion to drive a mercedes-benz is something that is common... to every generation of enthusiast. the 2015 dream machines, from mercedes-benz. today's icons. tomorrow's legends. visit the dream machine event today for up to $3,500 towards purchase.
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back with state department deputy spokeswoman marie harf. following the breaking news in the fight against isis. a pentagon spokesman saying there's no inrace iraqi forces have entered ramadi despite their military offensive to drive these isis terrorists out of anbar province. let's talk about what's going on. i was surprised to hear your boss secretary kerry say after ramadi fell to these isis terrorists it is possible to see the kind of attack we have in ramadi but i am absolutely confident in the days ahead, that will be reversed. where does he get that optimism? >> i think what we've seen over the past 24 hours is iraqi troops regrouping on the outskirts and counterattacking isil around ramadi. you're right, they're not in
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raudmy deyet put this is how you start a counterattack. we're helping them do that. the coalition is supporting with air power, air strikes in anbar to help them on this counterattack. it could take some days that is true. >> mostly this offensive, it was launched by the iraqi iranian-backed shiite militia, not the regular army. they gave ate code name which is really hateful to the iraqi sunnis who live in anbar province. this is not necessarily an operation that the iraqi military is in charge of. >> well i'd be a little cautious on that. prime minister abadi came out announced the counterattack. we're encouraged by that sign. he's been working with provincial forces to get them all under iraqi command and control. that's something we'll be watching. >> you trust these iranian-backed shiite militia to get the job done? we know what they want to do in iraq they want iraq to be basically a wholly owned province of iran. >> i don't know if i'd make sweeping generalizations about
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these forces. i think they're probably a little bit different on the ground. we've been clear with the iraqis it's important to us certainly that any of these other provincial forces that are working are under iraqi command and control that the iraqi armed forces fsh is ones in control of these offensives. obviously that's what we've been focusing on. >> does your boss secretary of state john kerry, who served in vietnam, remembers that war very well agree with the current defense secretary ash carter who told barbara starr the iraqi forces in ramadi in his words showed up with no will to fight? >> i think what i would say, wolf i know there's been a lot of attention on this is that when these iraqi forces are trained, when they're equipped, when they have support that we have seen them have the will to fight. they are facing in isil an incredibly complex enemy, an incredibly well-equipped, well-armed well-trained enemy that has, for example, more resources than al qaeda in iraq ever had. if you remember how long it took u.s. and others to push al qaeda
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in iraq back it took many, many months indeed years. the iraqi forces have been fighting and really contesting ramadi for many months. we knew there would be setbacks like this. but we have seen that they do have the will to fight. we're helping equip them we're helping train them. it's going to be a long fight, though. >> they didn't have the will to fight in ramadi they didn't have the will to fight in mosul a year ago. >> i think mosul and ramadi are a little bit different. what we saw in ramadi is for months iraqi forces were contesting isil. mosul fell quite quickly, so that was a little different. we've talked about that a lot on your show. when it came to ramadi they contested it for many months fought valiantly. isil threw a ton of resources, firepower at the situation. unfortunately we had a pretty significant setback. without they've started to counterattack around ramadi and we are confident eventually ramadi will be retaken. >> congresswoman actualsy began better of hawaii she's a democrat she was with me earlier today, she served in
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iraq iraq two tours. she basically said, forget about this unified iraqi government it's a myth it doesn't really exist, you've got to have what she called a three-state solution. kurdistan, sunnis shiites. that's the only way this is going to be resolved. your reaction? >> we've been very clear in this administration that we believe a unified iraq under a central government is what's best able to push back on threats like isil. what's best able to keep the country together. and what's best able to really put as many resources as they can into the fight against isil. that doesn't mean the kurdish fighters can't be a key part of this they certainly are. we've seen thatment places including in the fight in ramadi. but we really do believe that a central government a unified iraq is best able to defend itself and defend its borders and defend its territory. >> let me get your reaction to jim sciutto's exclusive report on what's going on in china, manmade islands where the u.s. believes they're building
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military equipment. the chinese have formally protested to the united states complained about these poseidon surveillance spy planes flying over, taking pictures, the "global times" newspaper which is a mouthpiece of the chinese communist party warning, a battle between china and the united states in the south china sea is inevitable." those words. what do you say? >> well that's interesting. because i was with secretary kerry during our recent trip to china and he had many meetings. leaders at all levels. where we talked first and foremost about a number of areas where we work together on things like the iran talks, on other issues, denuclearization of the korean peninsula. he raised in every meeting our concern about the pace and the scope of their land reclamation efforts in the the south china sea. to be clear that's not about the u.s. that's about the fact that those kinds of activities rate tensions with their neighbors. they could lead to miscalculation and miscommunication. and that's something that we think they need to resolve with their neighbors. it's not about the u.s. and our
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planes operate international air space and they'll continue to do so. >> wrapping it up we want to congratulate you. i understand starting june 1 you've got a new title at the state department. senior adviser for strategic communications to the secretary of state. but we'll still welcome you back here in "the situation room." >> thank you so much. >> maria harf joining us here today. tough new reforms for the cleveland police department. tonight, officers are steaming about the measures imposed on them by washington. and the search for the missing. in southwestern flooding the crisis could get worse in the hours ahead with the threat of more thunderstorms and tornados. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve.
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tonight the city of cleveland and the justice department here in washington they're moving forward on agree changes to the local police force. the newly unveiled reforms are designed to minimize racial bias and the use of excessive force. but some police officers are warning that their ability to enforce the law may suffer. brian todd is working the story for us. brian what are you finding out? >> we've been speaking with people in cleveland's police union and others in the law enforcement community. they all understand that policing in cleveland had to change. but tonight, many of them fear the new rules are going to hold police officers back at critical moments on the street. and they say the criminal element knows that. two unarmed civilians killed in a hail of police bullets after an officer's acquittal protest in the streets. >> we want justice! >> reporter: it follows what the department of justice found was a pattern of excessive force by police in cleveland. now cleveland police are going
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along with tough new measures imposed by washington. community leaders say it's about time. >> over time we can only change culture. by changing culture you change behavior. changing behavior you can change how institutions are perceived and how institutions actually operate. >> reporter: but tonight, a top police union official in cleveland is already chafing. >> no it's not all stuff that we can live with. >> reporter: under a new agreement the justice department says cleveland police have to file a report whenever they unholster their guns to aim them at suspects. the police union says that holds back police too much. >> i'm afraid that officers are going to be hesitant to pull their gun in an appropriate situation because they don't want to do the paperwork that's going to be associated with having to pull your gun. >> reporter: the agreement says in confrontations where officers choose not to fire their guns they can't use a firearm "as an impact weapon" just to subdue someone. former red lands california police chief beerman says that's not realistic.
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>> the reality is in some circumstances if that's the only thing that you have available to you while you are on the ground fighting with somebody it is better to use that as an impact weapon than to shoot somebody with it. >> reporter: cleveland police are also banned from neck holds, the controversial tactic used by the nypd in the eric garner case. the new rules are imposed as cleveland enters another potentially combustible period. the city is waiting for a decision on whether the officer who shot and killed 12-year-old that mere rice is going to be charged. rice was holding only a bullet gun when he was killed in november. officials are concerned that if there is no indictment in that case there could be more unrest in cleveland. and there are concerns about the longer-term effect on police work. what jim beerman is worried about in cleveland and any city where these rules are implemented is that police might resort to what he calls depressing that out of concern for their own safety or maybe out of resentment they might not respond to a certain call proactively, they'll just arrive and take a look at something but won't apprehend someone acting suspiciously they won't try to
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prevent something from happening. he says in cities where that happens, crime rates almost always go up. >> there's fear that's going on right now even in baltimore as we've been reporting. could there be some give and take brian, on these rules? >> probably wolf. jim beerman says the department of justice is very often reasonable in these situations. his hope is whoever's overseeing the cleveland police will make allowances for unexpected occurrences in policing where the police officer had to do something that might not be consistent with this new policy. something like ramming a car, firing a warning shot for example. >> all right, brian, thank you. let's bring in the attorney benjamin crump, representing the family of tamir rice in cleveland, the 12-year-old who was shot and killed by a cleveland police officer. also joining us cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes, and former atf agent matthew horace. matthew, this agreement spells out every time a police officer in cleveland unholsters his or her gun it has to be documented. what do you say as a former law enforcement officer, what's your
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reaction to this? because as you heard some are saying this could have very negative ramifications. >> you know wolf after 27 years in law enforcement, i understand our culture all too well. while i'm very proud that i've carried the gun and the badge, i do understand that there's going to be some pushback. what has to happen here is chief wail williams is going to have to lay out a plan of expectations to his command staff that's going to promulgate down throughout the department it's going to have to be made clear what he expects, what the community expects, what the conditions of the consent deagree are. all he has to do is look south to cincinnati for instance, and see that officers initially were hesitant. but long-term, long range, cincinnati police department is now a model of community policing. >> tom fuentes, former assistant director of the fbi, what do you think? >> i agree with horace about that that cincinnati has made the improvements and that the police are doing fine with it. in terms of following those guidelines. i think that the rule about
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making reports necessary for just unholstering might be a little bit too much. i think as they discuss this they can find accommodation. >> benjamin you're representing tamir's rice's family the 12-year-old shot and killed by a police officer. have you gotten reaction from the family to what's going on now? this agreement with the justice department to impose some new restrictions on what police in cleveland can do? >> the family the community in cleveland, is looking at how will the spirit of this consent decree really affect reality? and we're going to know that real soon with tamir rice. remember his face they said he was responsible for his own death because he should have been more cautious and they said even though that surveillance video is there, they told him to put his hands up three times and the drop his weapons. which seems to be impossible. and so we want them to tell the truth and be transparent. and hopefully now with this consent decree they will do that in tamir rice's case. >> do you think tamir rice would
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be alive today if this limited use of force rule were in effect then? >> i want to believe he would, especially with better training and better supervision and better hiring procedures. i think tamir rice would absolutely be alive, happy, his birthday is coming up on june 25th. he would be turning 13 years old. >> let me get reaction from tom and matthew. tom, go ahead. >> i agree with what mr. crump just said. but truth in advertising. i skullconsult to a company that does police screening and it's critical. cleveland hires this officer who was in the process of being fired by the last police department that he was with. so you wonder what did they do in the selection process? if police departments don't hire good officers with the right intentions and the right character, all the training in the world and all the rules in the world won't uncompany what they're liable to do on the street. >> let me get matthew's reaction as well. >> same point. at the end of the day, wolf
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hiring and recruitment -- and we haven't talked enough about that going going back to ferguson to now. we screen officers for their drug use, for their past for their activities. no one ever asks what kind of biases you have or if you've ever had bias toward a certain group. then let's talk about training. go back to the rendering and the court decision on saturday. many of us know as tom knows and i know, none of us in federal law enforcement or state and local law enforcement have ever been trained to jump on the hood of a car and shoot into a vehicle. we have on occasion gotten into shooting incidents at ground level. but that was never trained by anybody that i'm aware of in any organization. so the consent decree is going to address a lot of those issues. hiring recruitment, screening, training conditions and the police officers in cleveland are going to have to get used to it and calvin williams is going to have to lead transformationally, now into the future. >> benjamin crump, let's talk about baltimore for a minute. you know the six police officers
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who have been charged in the freddie gray death, they've asked for a change of venue, to move the trial if there's going to be a trial, presumably there will be out of baltimore. they don't think they can get a fair trial in baltimore right now. you're an attorney what do you think? >> i think a the judge will have to make a decision. but you want to be able to say the same way the people who are arrested in the community that freddie gray lived in when they broke the law, you want it to be the same for everybody. so people see that it's fair and transparent. if they can't get a fair trial, at the end of the day everyone will agree they're innocent until proven guilty and you want them to get due process unthe law. >> they deserve, those police officers innocent until proven guilty they deserve a fair trial. the question is can they get a fair trial based on your experience in baltimore or should they move that trial someplace else? let's say in maryland? >> i would think they can get a fair trial in baltimore because
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there are going to be people in that community that say, wait a minute. these police the thin blue line protecting us from hoodlums on the street that have killed over 700 people in the last two and a half years. so not everybody is anti-police. not everybody is against the aggressive tactics that they use. they are against racism and killing somebody that's innocent. but they're not against the police taking that extra step to get guns off the street to get the shooters off the street that are gunning down and killing one person a day in baltimore. >> very quickly. >> we're not against good police, we're against bad police. >> thanks very much for joining us. tom fuentes, matthew horace thanks to you as well. up next the death toll climbing in the southwest. the flood disaster there. with a dozen people still missing as the area braces for more torrential rain. a massive theft of data from the irs and it's being traced to russians.
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crews have been here. family members, friends, neighbors. anyone willing to pitch in a helping hand. they have been hauling off trees and cleaning out the cab. this is a camp site where we are, about 400 people were here during the time of the flood. luckily they all evacuated. all of them are safe and sound. the people that run this camp site say they heard that there were flood warnings they heard the water rising they knew what to do. so people here are very lucky. you can see the river raging behind me. that's the blanco river. you can see the water crashing over what actually is a bridge over there. it looks like it's just a waterfall but that is a bridge. of course things are definitely bad in wemberley as people continue to clean up. tonight, more devastating images out of texas. as some residents were hit with yet another round of severe weather. this dam southwest of dallas facing what authorities warn could be an impending failure. the homes downriver have been evacuated.
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meantime search and rescue crews are racing to find victims. including a mother and two children swept away in their home. she managed to call her sister as it was happening. >> she called me and said i just want you to know the ceiling has caved in and the boat -- the house is floating down the water. and tell mom and dad that i love them. i love you, and pray." it is somewhat comforting because she would never leave her babies. and the fact that they are together is very very important. she was a good wife. shefd a loving mother. and her kids were her life. >> reporter: in houston, highways flooded. the mayor describing a scene of cars littered all over the city. as the waters recede the search continues to make sure no one was trapped inside of those vehicles.
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and we are still out here in wemberley where the cleanup is going on. you can see mattresses beds they're trying to get as much of this done as they can because more rain unfortunately expected for the end of the week and the weekend. the last thing this area needs. >> certainly is. jennifer thanks very much. a scandal involving the world's most popular sport. tonight, the united states is accusing international soccer officials of committing brazen acts of bribery and corrupting the world cup selection process. the justice department revealed the indictments today along with a vow to investigate the organization known as fifa. lets get more from pamela brown. >> this is a massive u.s.-led operation with 14 indictments handed out to officials tied to fifa around the world. and the u.s. is vowing this is only the beginning to rid the nonprofit organization in charge of the most popular sport in the world of corruption.
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it's the largest governing body for the world's most popular sport, soccer. and now fifa has enough people indicted for corruption to start its own team. one the justice department says is organized, widespread and criminal. >> they were expected to uphold the rules that keep soccer honest. and to protect the integrity of the game. instead, they corrupted the business of worldwide soccer. >> reporter: hours ago at this luxury hotel in zurich switzerland, authorities arrested seven fifa officials as they gathered for their annual meeting. in total the justice department indicted 14 people. >> all of these defendants abused the u.s. financial system and violated u.s. law. and we intend to hold them accountable. >> reporter: among the charges, racketeering wire fraud, and money laundering. >> this really is the world cup of fraud. and today, we are issuing fifa a red card. >> reporter: events like the world cup helped fifa were i in more than $2 billion a year.
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>> delights and inspires -- >> reporter: the international event draws top players, top tourism, and top publicity for host cities and sponsors. now the justice department says fifa officials have used that allure to earn a cool $150 million in bribes for more than two decades. in exchange it allegedly provided lucrative media and marketing rights to the world cup and other tournaments. >> fifa worldwide has extraordinary power. this is uber power. we can make a case that this is the biggest sports bust in history. today, this is historic this is monumental. >> reporter: who's among fifa's least-trustworthy team of executives? vice president jeffrey webb directly accused of using his position to solicit kickbacks. according to the irs, top committee member charles the blazer has amassed $11 million in unreported income. accusations of corruption have long shadowed fifa including controversial decisions to hold
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future world cups in russia and qatar instead of the u.s. >> absolutely a shock when qatar beat the united states. then we took a deep breath and everyone thought about the oil and the money. and the fact that you could open up another part of the world. and everyone kind of shook their heads and said well of course. >> reporter: fifa's provocative president avoided charges and is up for re-election to the post on friday. buttest officials made clear today, this is just the beginning. >> work will continue until all of the corruption is uncovered and a message is sent around the world, this conduct will not be tolerated. >> today in response to the corruption allegations, fifa president bladir said "such misconduct has no place in football and we'll make sure those engaged in it are puft out of the game." fifa did an internal investigation and it says it had no reason to reopen the bidding process, that was back in december. >> what a story, thank you. cnn also is learning new
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information about where the cyber breach that compromised thousands of tax returns here in the united states came from. chris freights broke the story, what are you learning? >> the irs believes the data breach originated in russia. that's according to sources i talked to who were briefed on the breach. the thieves took the tax turns of more than 100,000 people. and they used personal information they had gotten elsive who where. social security numbers, addresses. used that information to pull down the tax records from the irs website. once they had access to tax returns, they used that information to file $50 million in fraudulent tax refunds. the irs' criminal unit is investigating as is an independent inspector general. the irs also notified the department of homeland security about the breach. the security of taxpayer data has been a problem at the agency since at least 1997. this past october, the inspector general called it the agency's number one challenge. and this latest breach has lawmakers on capitol hill
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demanding answers. republican senator orrin hatch announced today he plans to haul the irs commissioner before his committee next week to explain what happened and who's to blame. >> they've got to find answers quickly. our thanks very much chris freights for that. condition a republican rival steal hillary clinton's thunder? the two women in the presidential race so far. they stake their ground in the south. here at friskies, cats are in charge of approving every new recipe. because it's cats who know best what cats like to eat. up today, new friskies 7. we're trying seven cat-favorite flavors all in one dish. now for the moment of truth. yep, looks like it's time to share what our cats love with your cats. new friskies 7. for cats. by cats. moderate to severe crohn's disease is tough but i've managed.
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women in the presidential race they're competing on the same turf. both republican hillary clinton and republican carly fiorina campaigning in south carol. fiorina seems determined to cast a shadow over the other party's front-runner. jeff zellny's in columbia, south carolina. what happened, jeff? >> reporter: carly fiorina was trying to steal or borrow a bit of hillary clinton's spotlight as she tries to break out of that crowded republican field. today it felt a little like a game of follow the leader. as hillary clinton swept into south carolina today, she had company on the campaign trail. >> people running for president give a lot of speeches -- >> reporter: carly fiorina stepped directly into her spotlight. fiorina, more than most republicans, is fighting to be seen as clinton's rival. she hopes it elevates her from
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the crowded gop pack. it started when fiorina's announcement video featured clinton. >> i'm running for president. >> reporter: continued to the campaign trail. from iowa -- >> i'm criticizing hillary clinton because i come from a world where a title is just a title. and talk is just talk. >> reporter: to new hampshire. >> hillary clinton must not be president. >> reporter: to south carolina. >> unlike mrs. clinton, i never did photo opes. i had real meetings. >> reporter: fiorina, the former chief executive of hewlett-packard and one-time california senate candidate, has never held public office. but she's hoping to make a name for himself. at clinton's expense. she says clinton is too secretive. >> anyone who runs for president, anyone regardless of their party, needs to answer basic questions about their record about their positions, about their finances. >> reporter: secretary clinton didn't mention fiorina, but accused republicans of standing
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in the way of equal pay laws. >> what century are they living in? >> reporter: across town fiorina painted a different picture as she spoke to a crowd of republican women. she's trying to make the uphill climb through her own primary so she could one day take on clinton. >> would you relish the idea of being on a debate stage with her? >> i would relish the idea of being on a debate stage with her. hillary clinton wants to run as the first woman president. so she wouldn't be able to do that. >> reporter: but clinton gave a different reason to elect a woman. to end the streak of presidents who turn gray. >> i have one big advantage. i've been coloring my hair for years. you're not going to see me turn white in the white house. >> reporter: it was hillary clinton's first visit back to south carolina since 2008. wolf she said she'll be back again. >> i'm sure she will be thanks very much jeff zellny reporting. you can follow us on twitter. please tweet me
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me @wolfblitzer @cnnsitroom. join us tomorrow in the situation room watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight, breaking news. we're going to take you to the front lines in the battle against isis. we have no and exclusive video. our reporter on the ground with iraqi fighters are. are they running or fighting? the death toll rising from record southwest floodwaters. 19 killed 12 missing at this hour. a chilling forecast of a lot more rain. a plane losing power at 39,000 feet. both engines literally died they went out. no one knows how it happened or if it could again. let's go "outfront." good evening to all. i'm erin burnett. we begin "outfront" with br