tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN June 1, 2015 8:00pm-9:01pm PDT
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>> that's it for us tonight. see you back here tomorrow night. ac 360 starts right now. thanks for joining us, tonight what our reporting reveals about a hospital doing open-heart surgery on babies without enough experience experts say, to do it safely. babies dying or suffering life changing complications. tonight we're keeping them honest. also, we have breaking news about undercover inspectors who put airport security to the test and found it failed big time
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time after time. they managed to bring guns, explosives through tsa checkpoints again and again and again all over the country. not just one airport. we just learned that the man in charge plans to do to fix the problem, we'll tell you about that just ahead. later, the headline simply reads, call me caitlyn. caitlyn jenner's first public appearance as caitlyn jenner formerly known as bruce jenner on the cover of "vanity fair." we'll talk about that. we'll start with the story you'll not see anywhere else. it deals with a hospital in florida, it touches directly on a universal question. how much do you really know about whether the medical professionals who treat you or someone you love are actually good at their jobs? it's an important question. tonight's report focuses on a hospital doing some of the most delicate and difficult surgeries there is on babies. pediatric open heart surgeries going terribly wrong. state health officials known about some of these problems for years.
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parents have not. they want to know why they haven't and why the hospital's surgery program is still permitted to continue. elizabeth cohen tonight keeping them honest. >> just weeks into life, this tiny baby needed heart surgery. here at st. mary's medical center in florida. dr. michael black performed the delicate procedure to widen leila's narrow aorta, a defect she had since birth. >> he just made it seem like he was the best person to do this. >> he was very like no sweat, don't worry about it it's a walk in the park. >> but the surgery was a disaster. >> i looked at her and her legs had started, they had stiffened up a lot. and they started going in almost a tabletop position. >> after the surgery, layla was paralyzed. here she is today. the mccarthys had no idea that their daughter's tragedy had a disturbing back story. one that no one had told them. just three months before layla's
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operation, a baby had died after heart surgery by dr. black, and five months before that, alexander gutierrez mercado had died. and a month and a half before that, kiari sanders passed away. >> it's horrible that you go into a program like that, and they can be dishonest with you, and they don't feel a need to tell you what's happened there before. >> one week after the surgery that left layla paralyzed, amelia campbell died after heart surgery, then parish wright a few months later, and landon summerford eight months after that. st. mary's keeps its death rate secret. revealing a death rate could potentially provide misleading information to consumers. cnn has calculated a death rate on these surgical caseloads. from 2011 to 2013, the death rate for open heart surgery on children at st. mary's medical
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center was more than three times higher than the national average. these are all parents who lost their baby after heart surgery by dr. wrak black at st. mary's. they hadn't met each other until they sat down to talk to us. >> he sounded like he knew what he was doing. >> all i could do is believe in his words. and it was the opposite of what he said. >> so your baby was transferred to a different hospital? >> they couldn't do anything for her. she was a vegetable. organs had shut down everything. >> at the second hospital did they explain what happened? >> the previous doctor, dr. michael blat kinked her artery and there was no blood flow to the left side of her heart. >> this is really difficult to hear. just hear what other mothers went through and that this seems to be pervasive. >> st. mary's owned by tenet
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health care says cnn is wrong about the program's death rate, but refuses to provide what it considers the correct death rate, the hospital and heart surgeon rejected requests for an on camera interview, so we tracked down ceo david carboney to give him a chance to explain. >> hi, mr. carboney it's elizabeth cohen at cnn. how are you, sir? we want to know what the death rate is for your babies at the pediatric heart hospital in your program. he also wouldn't answer the parents' question. why did so many babies die at st. mary's? last year, a team of doctors from the state of florida's children's medical services evaluated the program, it was at the request of st. mary's, which sought to evaluate and identify opportunities for improvement. the head of the team, dr. jeffrey jacobs, a professor of cardiac surgery at john's hopkins, found st. mary's was doing too few surgeries to get
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good at it. how few? in the united states 80% of children's heart surgery programs performed more than 100 surgeries a year. each procedure giving them valuable expertise, the review of st. mary's program shows in 2013, the hospital performed just 23 operations. it is unlikely that any program will be capable of obtaining and sustaining high quality when performing less than 2 operations per month. dr. jacobs wrote. considering the major complications like leila's and the deaths of amelia and the other babies dr. jacobs concluded the situation at st. mary's is not the failure of any one individual it's the failure of the entire team and system. >> the state of florida has a letter that says there's been a failure. >> i don't think they should do any more surgery on kids a st. mary's. st. mary's is not qualified for
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surgery. that's that. >> dr. jacobs recommended that st. mary's stop doing complex heart surgeries on children, and stop doing any heart surgeries on babies less than six months old. st. mary's didn't listen. just ten days after receiving that recommendation, they did a complex surgery on an 18 day old baby. ten months later, they did another complex surgery on 16 day-old davey ricardo brand yau. both suffered terrible complications and had to go on life support. more babies died. weston in april 2014. and just this past may, mill ag rose flores died. in total, that's at least eight deaths and three serious complications since the program started. the hospital responds that the recommendations to limit surgeries were just that, recommendations, not mandates. in his statement, the st. mary's ceo told us we are working carefully to improve our volumes. how did the state of florida respond when it received these
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doctors' concerning reviews? remarkably, the state says they investigated and none of the issues raised broke any rules and st. mary's is legally authorized to operate. in statements florida health officials told us the death of any child is a tragedy and we will continue to closely monitor this program and this facility. that leaves these parents infuriated. >> every day, somebody's making a decision to allow some parent to bring their child and turn them over into the care of a group of people that aren't fit to do what they're doing. >> these parents want to know why st. mary's is still doing heart surgeries on babies. and the answer may come down to one thing, money. according to a study on one type of open heart operation for one surgery on one baby a hospital collects more than half a million dollars. in response to lawsuits filed by
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the families of kiari sanders and leila mccarthy, st. mary's and michael black denied any wrongdoing. these parents are left to grieve. >> i never got a chance to hold her or none of that. >> you had to watch your baby suffer. >> the mccarthys say they're fortunate that their daughter is only paralyzed. she's still with them, a lot of other parents can't say the same. >> it's an incredible report, elizabeth joins us now. >> i know you got a lot of information by filing freedom of information act. st. mary's actually tried to intervene, right? >> they did. we obtained e-mails and we wrote to the ceo and he said i learned a cnn reporter is looking for the hospital records. he said it's my understanding that those wouldn't be released without our approval. the state of florida said no, we can't hold on to these and they did give them to us. >> how are they allowed to keep this stuff private from patients? if a parent asks them, do you have any studies on how good you
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are, would they give them the studies? >> the parents would ask about mortality rates and they said they got answers like oh we've done this before and we have a good track record or we have done well. they got qualitative answers. i think a lot of people don't realize, hospitals don't have to release their mortality rates to anyone, for the most part, so parents get answers like that. we went to the websites of the more than 100 hospitals that do open heart surgery on children, and we looked for their mortality rates and we have a chart online that shows who is open and transparent and will tell parents and who keeps secrets. we want to help parents make these decisions. >> transparency is critical. to help parents make a choice. >> more than half of the hospitals are not transparent or -- more than half of the hospitals that operate on babies' hearts aren't transparent. >> that's on cnn.com right now? good elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. just ahead tonight, the man
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in charge of homeland security says he's going to do about epic security failures uncovered by his own investigators. epic is really accurate. and later the first photos and videos of caitlyn jenner formerly known as bruce jenner. and how she feels about living openly about the person she is inside. [announcer:] what if one stalk of broccoli could protect you from cancer? what if one push up could prevent heart disease? [man grunts] one wishful thinking, right? but there is one step you can take to help prevent another serious disease- pneumococcal pneumonia. one dose of the prevnar 13® vaccine can help protect you ... from pneumococcal pneumonia, an illness that can cause coughing, chest pain difficulty breathing and may even put you in the hospital. prevnar 13 ® is used in adults 50 and older to help prevent infections from 13 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. you should not receive prevnar 13 ® if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients if you have a weakened immune system, you may have a lower response to the vaccine.
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breaking news to tell you about, late reaction to a report exposing some pretty big holes in airport security. gaps you may have thought would have been taken scare of many -- taken care of many years ago. recently teams for the department of homeland security put airport checkpoints to the test. they managed to smuggle in weapons, even explosives and they didn't seem to have much trouble doing it. to call the results alarming does not begin to describe it. moments ago, jay johnson responded. renee marsh tonight is keeping them honest. she joins us now, what have you learned? >> we know from a government official these undercover teams
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performed 70 tests trying to smuggle weapons, as well as fake explosives through airport security checkpoints and these undercover teams were successful 67 times. so many of the times these tsa officers, they missed it, they missed these items and they were able to bring these items through security. now, we do know they've been doing this sort of testing for years. the goal is to find vulnerabilities and strengthen the system, the test by design is made difficult to trip up the tsa officers, but one former tsa official says absolutely not should the failure rate be this high. 95%, that was the failure rate, anderson. >> that's stunning. it's almost incomprehensible. we mentioned the department of homeland security has responded to this whole thing, what did they say? >> until now, they've been mum
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about what kind of changes they've asked for or what changes were implemented following this sort of testing, a few minutes ago, we heard from the department of homeland security. secretary johnson says he's asked for six very specific actions, i'm going to go through them quickly with you. they want a revised method for screening procedures, they also want these test results to be shared with airports across the country. they want more training for tsa officers, they want those screening machines to be retested and re-evaluated, apparently there were deficiencies with the machines, they want this covert operation, this sort of testing we've seen, they want that to continue, and lastly, jeh johnson says he's appointing a team to make sure all this happens. in a timely fashion. >> with all the money that's been invested so far, to have a failure rate of 95%, that's
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stunning. the problem extends past the checkpoints you don't even see. unless you're one of the thousands of people who work behind the scenes at a major airport. we got interested in that angle earlier this year, when the delta airlines baggage handler was charged with smuggling guns on to planes in atlanta. he was able to do it because he didn't have to go through the kind of screening you and i do. most employees at most airports don't have to go through that kind of screening. tonight, drew griffin has an important update but first, here's the original exclusive reporting. >> at miami international airport, this is the security you don't see standing in line. cnn got exclusive access to the screening that takes place for what they call the back of the airport employees. these are the baggage handlers, the mechanics, the cleaners,
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anyone you don't see going through screening with passengers. it's the same screening, no matter what kind of security badge or security clearance the employee holds. >> i.d.'s are not enough to stop malicious intent. can you vet employees for basic information on their backgrounds, but it's not going to necessarily prevent them from carrying out some kind of malicious activity against an airport. >> reporter: what may surprise you is what's happening at miami's international airport. the full screening of every airport employee is the exception, not the rule. cnn contacted 20 of the major airports across the country and found screening of employees is random and partial at best. and no national standard exists. the only other major airport that does full screening is orlando. many airports like seattle's
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seatac telling us an extensive background check and an airport security badge is all that's needed for employees to get on the tarmac and gain access to airplanes. it's a similar story we heard from dallas, san francisco, mccare an airport in las vegas, los angeles and even jfk in new york. pass a background check, get a badge, and you have access to the inner workings of america's airports, without going through the same screening passengers face up top. airport officials have told cnn, the cost of screening all employees is simply too much for their budgets. security expert wayne black says, relying on badges for security is stupid. >> you don't have to be eye -- a security kprpt. a fifth grader can tell you, if you're checking security at the top end of the airport, you out to be checking the back end of
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the airport. budget driven security will always fail. >> the tsa says in the wake of the gun smuggling case in atlanta, it is implementing or considering a range of measures, including additional requirements for airport and airline employee screening. but so far, no national changes. restaurant employees and flight crews that go through to terminals do pass through a checkpoint. those that work below do not. in miami, lauren stouffer said checking some but not all airport employees just isn't enough. the threats at her airport are the same across the country. smuggling, guns, drugs and the potential of terror. >> one of the greatest vulnerabilities for this airport and any other major airport, is the insider threat. basically, people that are going to obtain their credentials and use their access to exploit the system. >> miami international has been screening like this since the
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-- a drug smuggling scandal in the late '90s. every employee goes through metal detectors and screening. going to work, coming back from break, every time, every one. >> in today's day and age, we have to deal with terrorism -- >> if miami is an example for how security should be done the airport also has proof of why. last year alone, 209 employee i.d. badges were confiscated due to security violations caught by screening. >> we have intercepted guns, drugs, large sums of money. weapons, knives. >> employee screening is under new scrutiny after the arrest of a delta baggage handler in atlanta. the employee worked with a passenger to smuggle guns to new york. the baggage handler unscreened was able to take backpacks of guns into the airport, where he passed them onto a passenger, already cleared through security. atlanta is evaluating the cost of full employee screening.
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>> put it this way. it's a costly program, it's really not that costly when you compare the cost versus the consequences of not having a program like this. >> the atlanta airport has changed the policy since you first reported what was going on there. >> they are moving toward full employee screening. delta will take care of its employees, screen them in the parking lot. the rest of the employees, 40,000 strong, are going to be screened on a daily basis. they're also very much limiting the amount of access points in that airport so they can funnel all these workers through. that will take place by the end of this year, that's it, that will be three airports in the u.s. that will have full employee screening. >> is it expected the tsa is going to demand full employee screening at some point? >> you know right now, quite the contrary. the tsa had a committee, they studied it. and they say they don't believe,
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the committee doesn't believe full employee screening will add as much security as everybody else seems to think. they're only going to have random checks. they are going to require that background checks be done every two years, not every ten, and they're going to try to limit the access points to the back alleyways of the airports. but, no the tsa is not employee screening. >> that's incredible. thanks very much. a lot more ahead tonight, including the lawyer who has just spoken with the suspect in the d.c. mansion murders and the surprising reason he says he did not do it. it's being called the pizza defense. and later, the remarkable story behind the transformation of caitlyn jenner and dr. drew pinsky joins us as well. to create a more advanced vehicle, you use the most innovative technology
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large outpouring today for the father, mother and 10-year-old son who along is with their housekeeper were held captive and murdered in their home in washington last month. hundreds attending the funeral for the family. police have a suspect darren wint in custody. her former attorney spoke with him over the weekend and joins us now.
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so does law enforcement analyst is retired nypd detective harry houck. i appreciate you being with us. you met with darren wint for two hours over the weekend. he is well spoken, he would never harm a child and definitely didn't do this. what makes you so sure of that? i mean, that does sound like the thing every neighbor who's ever interviewed says about somebody who surprisingly commits a crime. >> this is a family of nine children, five girls and four boys. they took care of each other growing up. they come from another country, british guyana. small country of 750,000. darren has a daughter, he's not the type of person who would harm a child because he's taken care of children all his life. >> i mean, you know, he's innocent until proven guilty, and maybe he didn't do this. there's plenty of people who
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have sons or daughters and have committed murders. >> not many families of nine children who are taking care of each other. >> are you kidding? >> you're saying if you have a big family you're less likely to commit murder? >> this is your defense? >> when you have nine kids that are all about the same age, they're likely to take care of each other. that's what happens in this family, i met the mother, brother and sister who encouraged me to go down and retained me to talk to darren and give them their love for him -- >> you would tell a jury this story and then hopefully your client would not be convicted? what about the evidence? >> keep in mind that the defense doesn't have to tell the jury anything. they don't have to prove anything at all. >> do you honestly believe that because someone comes from a large family that makes them less likely to commit a crime? >> i've met this family, and i think this family is very
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unlikely -- they're nice people. [ all speak at once ] >> do you know how many times i've interviewed somebody who says, there's no way this person would ever commit a crime and it turns out they're a serial killer? everybody's always surprised, oh, i had no idea, seemed like such a nice guy. again, he's innocent until proven guilty but is that really an argument? >> i can't tell you how many mothers told me their sons were good people and then confessed to murder. you heard that all the time. what about the dna? >> the dna on the pizza crust. what about that? >> just this weekend, the fbi put out a report questioning some of its basic assumptions that it's used in dna matches over the years. what about fbi hair evidence that was discredited? many dna results are thrown out. it's not a perfect piece of proof by any means. >> i also heard you say that his
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family told you he just didn't like pizza. >> that's what his mother said. this is an inside job. people knew that the victim had large amounts of money to dispense and could get that money -- >> why did he flee, sir? why did he flee the state? can he account for the time he was in the house? what about the money that was recovered? that money can be traced back to the bank. >> it can be traced back to the bank? you have information that this money was marked? >> certainly when a large amount of money is taken out of the bank 20, 30, $40,000, it's the same denominations that were taken out of the bank and also a lot of the bills were new and are sequentially numbered. >> no one has said that this money was marked or even -- >> i didn't say it was marked. i said large amounts of money like that are brand new bills.
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and they'ry is -- and they're sequentially numbered. >> there were many others found -- >> why don't you answer the question sir? >> why have they put blinders on? >> should they look for people from small families who like pizza? i don't understand, you have not said any actual evidence based on anything he said. does he have an alibi for the 19 hours this family was apparently -- >> i'm not going to say what he said, he's not a recent employee of that company, he was employed 11 years ago, no one -- >> so he's innocent then? he was employed 11 years ago. speak [ all speak at once ] now i get your defense. >> someone that knows about the money that's being -- >> the insider. >> you also raised questions about the fact that he's only been charged with the father's murder when in fact other people are killed as well. >> we reached out to the u.s.
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attorney's office, that's a standard procedure, to charge with one crime initially and additional charges are expected. >> so i was right, he is only charged with one murder. >> but he will be charged with the others. >> but we reached out to them, that is standard procedure. and additional charges are expected. >> they're talking out of both sides of their mouth, if there are additional charges they should have brought them forth. where is there -- >> you've never heard of that happening, additional charges being brought forth later? >> i heard of lots of things happening by the u.s. attorney's office. however, why haven't they held a press conference with the mayor about insiders being involved in this particular incident? >> why would the police hold a press conference with other theories? the police aren't holding press conferences at all in this they're keeping things close to the vest. which is a wise thing to do, isn't it? >> they're not holding press conferences, because they're hoping that mr. wint will be held and then point his fingers. that's not going to happen. they need to find out who is involved.
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the police aren't doing their job and you know that former commissioner. >> i think they're hoping -- you will be the defense attorney for this man. i think that's what you're hoping right now. because you'd be the best guy on our team. >> thank you, it takes a talent to know one. >> we'll see about the large family and i don't like pizza defense if that makes it into court. i appreciate everybody being on. everybody's innocent until proven guilty. just ahead, caitlyn jenner's remarkable transition. and she tells "vanity fair" she doesn't have any secrets anymore and she's final living her true self. boys? stop less. go more. the passat tdi clean diesel with up to 814 hwy miles per tank. just one reason volkswagen is the #1 selling diesel car brand in america.
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today caitlyn jenner, formerly known as bruce jenner, made a public debut on the cover of "vanity fair" magazine. she talked with the magazine candidly about her gender transition and what it feels like to finally be living in her words, her true self. the cover story runs 22 pages. she speaks candidly in the video of a photo shoot. it's the most intimate and detailed account so far of her journey including her family's reactions. randi kaye reports. >> bruce always had to tell a lie. he was always living that lie.
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>> caitlyn jenner talking about her former self, bruce jenner. opening up about her transition during this two-day photo shoot with annie leibovitz. for "vanity fair's" july cover. >> caitlyn doesn't have any secrets. soon as the "vanity fair" cover comes out, i'm free. >> this is the cover caitlyn is talking about, a very different cover than bruce jenner's 1982 playgirl. we last saw bruce back in april when he sat down with abc's diane sawyer, his last interview as a man. >> my brain is much more female than it is male. it's hard for people to understand that. but that's what my soul is. >> bruce had been taking hormones, had his body hair removed, his nose fixed and his trachea shaved. but it was his facial feminization surgery back in
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march that completed the transition and caitlyn's new look. >> i was probably at the games because i was running away from a lot of things. very proud of the accomplishment, i don't want to diminish that accomplishment. >> that accomplishment landed bruce jenner in the history books, he broke the world record in the 1976 olympics, winning the decathlon at just 26. he was the guy on the wheatys -- wheaties box. >> wheaties is the breakfast of champions. >> reporter: in this expensive 22-page cover story, caitlyn reveals that during speeches given after the olympics she'd wear a bra and pandy hose under her suit. she also shares she suffered a panic attack the day after that ten-hour facial feminization surgery, thinking to herself, what did i just do to myself? the article also reveals caitlyn jenner hosted girls nights with wine and food where she could dress and feel like a woman and
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be around women. even her daughter cassandra attended saying it felt like they could just be girls together. >> to those who think this transition is a stunt for tv ratings, caitlyn says think again. >> it's not about the fanfare people cheering in the stadium, it's not about going down the street and everyone giving me an atta boy bruce pat on the back. this is about your life. >> a life to be lived now as caitlyn jenner. i'm so happy after such a long struggle to be living my true self. welcome to the world caitlyn, can't wait for you to get to know her/me. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> in one day, caitlyn jenner has more than 1.5 million followers on twitter. joining me now is dr. drew pinsky, host of dr. drew on hln. dr. drew seeing the "vanity fair" cover, no matter how much you prepare for it no matter
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how much you kind of thought about it it is surprising and i think probably shocking for a lot of people this is probably the first transgender female they feel they actually know. >> that's true. it's jarring, considering this was an alpha male athlete at one point. and now we're seeing caitlyn. i think this is a great thing for the transgender community. people are concerned that there is so much press, and so much sort of a circus around all of this, they're worried that the more subtle issues may get lost in the circus here. >> which is possible. i talked about this before, and i was skeptical hearing she's going to do a reality show about the transition. you raise the point, you know, there's going to be other people making money off her during all this time, following her around, paparazzi taking pictures of her, why shouldn't she at least be able to tell her own story in her own way and, i guess, pay the rent off it? absolutely.
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and again, seeing this story, i really admire people that are willing to come out and talk about things that have been taboo for many years and are very difficult to talk about. having said that, i have real concerns here for caitlyn the human being. this is not a cartoon character, people are way too quick to attack and judge. so for me i'm just hopeful that she has the adequate support and the rest of us are reasonably kind and appropriate in how we approach evaluating the story. >> the other thing i think is worth reiterating, which you often do. and again, it's a tough thing to wrap your mind around, is that gender is not the same as sexual orientation. >> very important. >> so who somebody is attracted to in their heart from the time they were little is different than the gender they feel. people often -- there's a term, lgbtq community, lesbian, gay,
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bisexual transgender, questioning community. it's easy to lump everybody together, but being transgender is different from being gay or lesbian. it's completely separate things. you can be lesbian and gay when you're transgender. >> absolutely. and if one thing comes through, i think that issue has become increasingly clear to people that gender identity is a separate phenomenon from sexual orientation, and people have gained -- it's interesting, people have gained a sensitivity to that, or are getting on board with understanding that phenomenon. however, they have really not thought through how caitlyn's going to deal with the fact that she likes heterosexual females who may not want to be with a female. that's going to be another source of stress. i'm so concerned. i know he's gotten the love and support of his family. this is going on publicly. there's a lot to go through yet. think about this, there's so many layers to this, also. it's like tectonic plates
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shifting. who is she going to be now with her children, is she still father, mother? who is she in relationships with other women? is she going to be with gay women, heterosexual women. there's so many layers of emotional shifts that have to go on for years ahead, this is going to be a tough process, her heart should stay in the right place with it. >> dr. drew appreciate you being on. thanks. >> you bet. walter scott was shot in the back as he ran away from a police officer, tonight we have new information about the officer who fired the fatal shots, plus, new reaction from mr. scott's family. there's some facts about seaworld we'd like you to know. we don't collect
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an update in the shooting of walter scott, north charleston south carolina police officer michael slager shooting him as he ran away from him. hard to forget that video. what you don't see is him firing his taser moments earlier. according to the "new york times" officer slager used his taser at least 14 times during five years on the force. tonight we're focusing on walter scott's family and the man they loved. >> a family reunion photo in a beautiful spring day in coastal south carolina a family that's come together every other
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year for decades. but this reunion is a far different one than the family has ever had. tragically different. because of what happened to their loved one in the blue dallas cowboys cap. this is video from the last reunion, the man in the cap is walter scott, the walter scott who the world got to know after this video came out. walter and judy scott are walter's parents. >> he loved his parents, and he had respect for us. >> he was a lovely young man. >> he loved family. >> how do you have the strength to cope with what you're going through? >> prayer. and i don't think about it, i try hard not to think about it. mostly i talk to a lot of friends, a lot of people to keep it off my mind, most of the time when i think about it, i break down. >> both parents have only seen a portion of the video. they couldn't bear to watch it all the way through. they want the officer convicted. but they also have an extraordinary feeling towards him.
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>> i forgive him for what he did. he didn't know what he was doing. >> it would seem to some people for sure he did know what he was doing. how are you able to forgive him? >> because of the love of god within me i can't but love him. >> god said if you don't forgive others then he's not going to forgive us. >> also among the people at the union, walter scott's four children, miles, sebastian, samantha and walter ii. their mother died of cancer several years ago. their feelings about the cop who shot their father, quite a bit different. >> he could have handled the situation differently. he has a family of his own. how would he feel if somebody took him away from his kids or his wife? >> can you forgive him? >> not right now. >> it ain't the time. put it like that. >> your grandparents say they
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have. >> i'm a whole different person. >> we will not let walter's name go down in vain. we will not let walter's name go down in vain. >> most of the small children here understandably don't know what happened to their uncle or their cousin. but they will eventually learn and it's the wish of walter's parents, when they do find out about it, they also learn about how to forgive. which they know from their grandchildren who they love more than anything is not an easy thing to do. gary tuchman, cnn, charleston, south carolina. >> incredibly strong family. >> coming up, something to make you smile at the end of the day, the "ridiculist" is next. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil.
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the name of a labradoodle puppy. fifa come here feef a come on fifa! i'm not a sports guy, it's all i got. fifa just sounds sort of funny. warner was among those indicted last week into alleged corruption in fifa. this weekend he made a video defending himself and pointing out what he sees as the united states' double standards. >> if i were so bad and if fifa is so bad, how come the head of fifa is not? ask then i look to see that fifa has practically announced 2015 this year olympic final in the world cup. >> unfortunately for mr. warner, he was holding up with headline. fifa announces the 2015 summer world cup in the united states. that is from the onion. if you don't follow soccer, you may not get the joke at first, that fifa threw together another world cup to appease u.s. officials.
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it's totally fine if you're not a fan. there are plenty of caring productive caring people who live their lives insulating themselves from sports. some of them are named anderson. this guy, he was the vice president of fifa, surely he should have known better, really, what person with internet and a printer doesn't know that the onion is a satirical site at this point. it's not like it was -- well, i don't know, clickhold. yeah, i fell for an article that quoted me as saying this at a commencement speech. graduation is a big deal bigger than getting a hole in one in golfing. people might think you're lying about the hole in one, but when you graduate you get a diploma. i just didn't think it was that funny. i thought it was a stupid thing, and it annoyed me that someone may think i said a stupid thing. i didn't know what click hole
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was. i mean how am i supposed to keep up with what the kids are doing? it's not like i made a video as proof. i just tweeted at them, i tweeted, do you make this stuff up? which of course as it turns out yeah they do. because that's their job since they are a parody site owned by the onion. maybe i shouldn't throw stones at the fifa guy. instead, i'll just remind you of the time i hosted a panel discussion with the onion staff and i was totally, i was in with them i got the joke. really? anybody you won't pick on? >> no, i mean i don't -- you're the moderator and you're -- >> yeah, right. >> come on, that's about the warmup. >> i like my face in that. i'm sort of resigned. >> not bad. >> he was a gentle lover. >> there you go. see i can keep up with the cool kids of the onion. is it the onion or just onion? i think it was the onion. i'm kidding.
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i really was kidding. love is gentle, love is kind, let's give the fifa guy a break, at least tonight on the "ridiculist." that does it for us. our coverage continues next with cnn international. boat capsizes. the man in charge of u.s. airport screeners is getting reassigned after a scathing report about the agency's failures. from one man who's been there and done that a warning, this may not end well. lots to get through today. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. >> and this is cnn newsroom. want to begin this hour with
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