that's it for us tonight. see you back here tomorrow. "ac 360" starts right now. breaking news tonight on two fronts. we've just learned about a potentially major development in the washington quadruple murder case. more forensic evidence tying the suspect not just to the scene but to the victims as well. pam brown is working her sources. going to join us in a moment. but first the boston police shooting and killing of a man who authorities say had been radicalized online by isis. they say he was armed and may

have been following the group's call on followers to murder members of law enforcement. now, the suspect had been under 24-hour surveillance and so had others, our deborah feyerick has late details on how and why police opened fire and what investigators have been learning about the man they killed. what do we know. >> investigators right now are searching his home and computers because they do believe that he was radicalized online. he was accessing social media. isis propaganda and the propaganda of other extremist groups. not clear whether in fact isis contacted him directly. what we can tell you is that he was making threats to police officers. and the level of alarm was sufficient that authorities decided that they were going to question him today. so they moved in. he was standing at a cvs. and they approached him. the fbi chief says there was no arrest warrant. there was no intention to even arrest him and they were very surprised by his response, by his reaction when he took out that knife and then came at both an fbi agent and a police officer. they repeatedly ordered him to drop the knife. he refused to do that.

and when they felt they were in danger, that's when they opened fire. and so all of this is under investigation right now. but it's just unclear why he also had that knife. it was a pretty sizable knife. >> was this inside a cvs? it looks like it's outside. >> it was in the parking lot of the cvs, yeah. >> it's very possible there could be video of this. >> not only is there video, it's going to be shown tomorrow to different groups because there are some questions because the brother's account -- >> the family is saying this is not what happened. >> that's exactly right. and the brother who actually identified usaama rahim as the man who was wielding the knife and the man who was shot, he says that in fact his brother was waiting for a bus, he was waiting to go to work and that apparently he was confronted by members of the joint terrorism task force. they -- he was confronted. he actually was able to place a phone call to his father because, in his brother's words, he wanted a witness to listen. the father heard the shots.

the imam, which is the brother, is saying that usaama was shot three times in the back, but authorities are saying, no, that's not what happened, that in fact he was the aggressor, he had the knife and that he was shot twice, once in the abdomen and once in the torso. so they're looking at it closely. >> certainly seems there would be enough forensic evidence, whether video or autopsy reports, to validate one story or the other. >> that's exactly right. this is exactly what the fbi has been saying. they've been worried that the threat here in the united states domestically is going to increase exponentially for the fact that anyone who can go online can be radicalized. that's the threat and the danger. that's why they're reaching out to local police departments and saying, you guys are on the front lines. you're going to see anything if anything happens first. in this case it was a boston police officer who opened fire first when he confronted the suspect. >> deborah feyerick, appreciate the update. now the breaking news in the washington murder of savvas savopoulos, his wife amy and their son philip and their

housekeeper. held kalt captive and killed at their home. dna from the found on a pizza crust in the house according to authorities. his former lawyer, you'll recall, telling us last night that mr. wint could not have done the crime because among many things he doesn't like pizza according to his family. true or not, whether or not that even matters. tonight it seems pizza crust is not the only evidence that authorities have to go on. pamela brown joins us with what was found and how it may connect the suspect with his alleged victims. so what is the latest, pamela? >> we're learning that traces of blood from at least one of the murder victims in that quadruple homicide were found on a shoe that daron wint was wearing when he was arrested a couple weeks ago. this is according to two law enforcement officials i spoke with and my colleague evan perez as well. so the blood was matched to the victim following forensic analysis conducted after wint's arrest. we're seeing video of his arrest right there. after that they immediately took everything he had on him, conducted this forensic analysis

and allegedly found blood from one of the victims on the shoes that he was wearing. anderson. >> is it clear which of the victims' blood was found. >> we don't know which of the four victims. as you mentioned there was the couple. amy and savvas and their son phillip and the housekeeper. we don't know which victim. he is charged with first degree murder right now for savvas savopoulos did you we're told that has nothing to do with the blood that was found on his shoe and there could be more charges coming against doirnaron wint. they do not believe he acted alone. this is still a very active investigation. >> as you said, authorities do say they believe more charges will be brought. more now on the forensics as well as the search for additional suspects and everything else that goes into closing the first. joining us tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director. thanks for being with us. how reliable is alleged blood evidence on a shoe? >> anderson, that's completely

reliable, and it's been something that's been analyzed and used for comparison purposes, evidentiary purposes for decades. i think that the public and this attorney might, if he ends up representing wint, be able to confuse a jury enough on saliva, pizza crust, how could they get dna from that and basically cloud that issue. but blood spatter evidence on clothing of a person being charged with that crime, that's pretty hard to argue. and he would have a very difficult time twisting that evidence and confusing a jury. because, again, blood splatter evidence has been, for decades, has been usable. >> i have to say, i interviewed this -- wint's one-time attorney, whether or not the family is actually going to hire this guy or not, last night. it was kind of confounding. basically he said that he met with wint over the weekend and that there is no way wint could have done this because he comes from a large family and that he

himself has a child and there is no way he would harm a child and that basically the idea that you're coming from a large family, you're used to taking care of each other, you therefore wouldn't be a murderer and his family says he doesn't even like pizza. all of those just seem like ridiculous logic. i mean, the idea that people from large families don't commit murder or people with children don't commit murder. i mean, that's just ridiculous. >> no. it is ridiculous. he is making these arguments. the argument that he doesn't like pizza. my argument to that was now what are you going to say? he doesn't like shoes either? couldn't possibly be his shoes that he was wearing when he was arrested. i think just because this attorney makes a number of goofy comments we shouldn't be giving him so much ability to be seen as a credible person. >> yeah. and again, you know, obviously this man is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. we'll see if other charges are brought as pam says, will likely happen. tom, appreciate you being on. quick reminder. set your dvr and watch "360" whenever you want.

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account of what happened. the attack occurred at a wildlife center where lions roam free and tourists observe them from cars and other vehicles. they're warned to keep windows closed at all times. the victim, the 22-year-old american whose identity hasn't been released was mauled by a lion who lunged through the open window of her vehicle. the tour company she hired just released an account of her attack. what are they saying? >> we're getting our first account of what happened in the car from someone who was there, the driver in fact. there were two people in the vehicle, one of them was the 22-year-old american woman who died. the other was the owner of a tour company who had organized the victim's day at the lion park outside of johannesburg. that owner is pierre padheder, the owner of calabash tours. he was driving the vehicle at the time of the incident. according to the spokesperson for the company, who happens to be the wife of the owners her husband entered the lion

enclosure with the windows up and not down. the account makes a particular note of that because the statement says there have been reports the windows were down when entering the enclosure. according to this account they were not. they were closed. >> if the windows were up, then obviously that raises the question how did the lion get in the vehicle. >> well, it does raise that question. when the two people pulled up to view the pride of lions the vehicle stopped. at that point mr. padheder says the american tourist rolled down her window to take pictures. it was then a lion attacked through the open window. mr. padheder says he fended off the lion injuring his arm in the process, a serious injury. according to the account he saw his passenger bleeding profusely from the neck as the lion retreated. mrs. padheder says her husband not only hurt his arm but also, anderson, suffered a heart attack. >> at that point i guess they're both wounded. was the driver able to help her at all? >> according to the account he tried his best to stop her bleeding with constant pressure to her neck and called for help.

mr. padheder told his wife it felt like a long time for the ambulance to arrive. however officials at the park say the ambulance arrived in a timely fashion. the account goes on to say the woman passed away a short time after the ambulance arrived. anderson, the tour company says it is withholding her identity as the request of her family. >> appreciate the details. a "360" exclusive. this isn't the first time a tourist has been attacked at this very center. two years ago. a lion attacked brett tucker's family at the same park. he joins me for the exclusive interview. brett, can you start by telling us what happened when your car was attacked at this park? i understand your father had the window open just enough to take a picture. >> i dropped the window just enough so that i could take a photograph through the top. and i took the photograph and my dad was looking forward and saw a bird. looking at a bird.

the next minute the car -- there was a massive crash. the next minute there was a lion paw that got its hand into the top of the window, and the next minute the window collapsed and the lioness came into the car. my dad luckily was able to move my daughter away. >> what do you do in a case like that? this lion, not only the paw but the lion itself is getting in the car. >> it was crazy. it probably feels like it's forever but it was probably 15 seconds, i suppose. and my dad amazingly got my daughter out of the way and was holding her to one side. the lion bit him on the shoulder and was able to get its paws into the car and around his neck. >> oh, my god! >> then the next -- the next while was a bit crazy. i leant across and was punching the lion in the nose. i am not a very big guy. so i don't think it -- i think it looked at me with much amusement. you sort of realize that you're in massive trouble here. i went back and hit the gear lever down. luckily it was an automatic. it went straight into drive.

that moved the car forward about half a meter, i suppose. with that half a meter moving forward, i think the lion lost its footing and actually released my dad and sort of fell out the window. i then hit the accelerator, drive off and the lion sort of walked back to where it came from like nothing had happened. >> that's incredible. were you yelling? was your daughter screaming at this point? >> i mean, it's insane. my daughter had a small nick on her shoulder from where the lion pawed -- literally it didn't touch her. she had small mark on her leg. she was obviously going crazy. my dad as unbelievable. he held fast. the lion was biting him on the shoulder and he held my daughter out of the way. luckily for him he had some bite marks and quite a few claw marks and they stitched him up across the board. and then actually made a decision that i was going to take my daughter back to the lion park just because i didn't really want her to have that

experience because it's not -- that's not the way lions behave. i must stress that we took 100% responsibility for our window being open. so at no stage did we say that it was the lion park's issue because it's -- clearly states that you shouldn't open your windows. i think the key thing for me was that the window was ut slightly ajar, which is not normal for a lion to want to attack like that. when we went back to the lion park we actually went -- when we went through that camp again i was like -- i was blown away with five other tourist vehicles driving around with their window wide open, and i thought, my first reaction to my dad that this is only a matter of time until something happens again. >> while you're taking responsibility for the incident where you have your window partially down, you're saying that you hope, you believe the park could do more to let other people know that they shouldn't have their windows down, whether it's -- i mean, should there be more signage? should they be talking directly to people? >> my letter to them was quite

simple. i said, guys, with all respect, you cannot allow self-drive in a park where the lions are as agitated or whatever they are as they are. because the reality for me is they've got these vehicles there that are completely caged. so -- >> employees are driving around in caged vehicles. >> correct. so if you have a wildlife park in south africa you're not in a cage. the reason is because the animals won't react. they won't jump into the vehicle. where, if the owner of the lion park has got cages on his vehicle, he's obviously done it for a specific reason. which is i understand. i understand why the lion park is there. it's an amazing place to take any tourist. any person who doesn't have the opportunity to go there. it's a great place to go and understand and learn about the lions. but you can't put -- for me the saddest thing about this whole thing is you can't put the consumer at risk when you know there is a potential for that to happen.

yes, it is well sign-posted and, yes, they do give you information before you go in about closing your window. but like for me, it's just -- the risk is too high. when you have these vehicles readily available and they have a couple there. why not say no self-drive. we'll do the trip for you. >> brett, i appreciate you not only taking responsibility for your own actions but for informing the park and giving them advice. unfortunately they didn't follow up on it. we'll see if anything changes with the most recent accident. i appreciate you speaking out tonight. thank you. >> pleasure. >> there is more happening tonight. we'll take you to the scene of china's yangtze river where a cruise ship capsized and time is running out for any of the hundreds still trapped onboard who may have survived. plus, new video of caitlyn jenner's new photo shoot for "vanity fair," new details about her transition. i'll talk to buzz bissinger who wrote the cover story after spending hundreds of hours with jenner during her journey.

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a world away. minutes could mean life or death for hundreds of people. they're trapped right now inside this ship on china's yangtze river. only a small number of bodies recovered so far. leaving the fate of more than 400 passengers and crew right now unknown. for the lucky ones, we don't know how many who found air pockets. their fate is in the hands of all the people who have been racing the clock to try to find them. our david mckenzie is there for us. >> reporter: this 65-year-old woman is lucky to be alive. emergency responders placed an oxygen cube in her nose and rush her to safety. she had spent an entire night trapped in an air pocket in the capsized cruise ship, until divers rescued her. she is one of more than a dozen so far to have survived. this emergency worker taps the ship's bottom, hoping for a response from passengers inside and appears to hear signs of life. welders use blow torches, attempting to cut the hole open.

in another ray of hope during operations on tuesday here, this 21-year-old man is rescued and rushed to hospital. he too survived in an air pocket. the bottom of the ship had a layer of air cushion which woulds two meters thick this rescue diver says. the victim was sitting on a water pipe in the upside down ship bottom. while finding anyone alive lifts the spirits of those here on site there were nearly 460 on board when this ship capsized. the majority of them senior citizens although the youngest passenger was just 3. authorities are scrambling to rescue many more and also investigate exactly what happened to the ill-fated eastern star cruise ship. it was heading up the yangtze river on a multi-day cruise when it was hit with what authorities say was a violent storm. perhaps a tornado. you're watching what's believed to be the last images of the

ship before the tragedy, just about 30 minutes before it capsized. lightning and rain streaking across the frame. this video is shot from a surveillance camera of a passing ship according to state media. the china weather center later confirmed a tornado with winds up to 64 miles per hour did in fact hit the ship monday night. as dawn breaks on a second day of searching, scores of soldiers are moving onto the scene and they put a cordon here. we're not allowed to go further than that military checkpoint. they have had a huge amount of help here to try and find survivors. but as the time ticks by, it's becoming extremely unlikely that more will be pulled out. while hundreds of passengers and crew are still missing and feared dead, both the ship's captain and chief engineer somehow made it out of the ship alive. they have been taken into custody for questioning. >> david mckenzie joins us now. david, i understand they've just expanded the search area.

>> reporter: that's right. 90 miles down river. that's an extraordinarily large search area for a sinking of a ship of this kind, anderson. i can tell you, the weather is just playing a huge part in the hampering of the search effort. it's been pouring with rain on and off for hours. and more than 24 hours after the ship sank in what appears be a freak weather incident that happened so quickly that people were trapped as the water was pouring into their cabins. the prospect of finding anyone is very slim. but we've been seeing a steady stream of rescuers coming in and out. and they still hope maybe someone is in there in the air pockets that they can pull out. anderson. >> do we know -- have they heard any banging or anything? they're obviously -- they're on part of the ship itself, correct? >> reporter: well, yesterday late into the day they pulled a 21-year-old man who had been banging showing signs of life.

but in the last several hours we haven't heard any positive news, i must tell you. that's what they've been doing, walking along the hull, tapping the hull with these tiny hammers to see if anyone can tap back or shout back. it's extraordinary the kind of rudimentary technology they're using. they're going in there with welders and divers. but this is a very -- very fast flowing river and a very murky one. it's dangerous work trying to get people out. with that expanded search area, it tells me that they are less confident that they're going to find people immediately in the vicinity of that vessel. >> david mckenzie. appreciate the update. let's get the latest on other stories. amara walker has a "360" new and business update. the most powerful man in world soccer stepping down from his post. fifa president sepp blatter says he will resign once a successor is elected. this comes just days after he was reelected to a fifth term and less than a week after the sport's governing body was targeted in a federal corruption

investigation. the senate overwhelmingly approved a bill reforming national security agency surveillance programs. the usa freedom act ends the agency's bulk collection of millions of american's phone records. the bill goes to the president for his expected signature. doctors say secretary of state john kerry is in good condition after surgery to repair his broken leg from a cycling accident. the lead surgeon expects kerry to be up and walking tomorrow. an incredible story of survival in new york city. we want to warn you, though, the video is tough to watch. keep in mind the little boy who was hit by an out-of-control car is doing just fine. this was monday when the car went onto the sidewalk, took down a tree and slammed into a 3-year-old boy. of course, everyone feared the worst. today less than 24 hours later believe it or not, oscar chen was back at the same location, that's him running around, and smiling for the cameras. incredible stuff.

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new insight tonight on caitlyn jenner's transition from bruce jenner. here is more behind the scenes video of the "vanity fair" photo shoot. a look at the highly anticipated debut of the former olympic gold medalist who has transitioned into being a woman. the cover says it all. "call my caitlyn." inside it there are 22 pages of photos and details about her life, her true self, she says. the cover story was months in the making. it was written by the magazine's contributing editor, buzz bissinger, who spent an extraordinary amount of time with caitlyn. he joins us tonight. you spent hundreds of hours with bruce jenner, a lot of time with caitlyn. are they different? do they seem different? >> obviously in terms of appearance obviously. >> they're very different. very different in appearance obviously. they do seem different.

and it's a work in progress in the sense of we're just getting to know caitlyn. caitlyn is just getting to know herself. but the difference i see is, first of all caitlyn is having more fun in life. bruce didn't have much fun in life, the last 10 or 15 years i think he had no fun in life. he was very lonely and alone and not really motivated in the shadows of the kardashian family. caitlyn seems very emotionally connected, reaching out to the so-called jenner kids more than ever before, happy, alive and learning to listen and learning about empathy, which were all characteristics, frankly, that bruce never came near. >> that's what's so interesting about your article. one of the many things about it is he just wasn't a very good dad, bruce jenner, to his kids. >> he wasn't. he was not a very good dad to the jenner kids, the first four kids from his two marriages. i have to tell you, they are exceptional kids. they are as different from the kardashians as you can be, not to knock the kardashians. they are very, very grounded.

very grounded in life and, when bruce, after he married kris jenner really -- this is on his shoulders, basically abandoned them as you're entering adolescence. it's hard. it's particularly hard when you're a boy. we all love our fathers but this is a father who was a national hero, who won the olympics. in the story butch jenner says at one point, i wish he hadn't won the olympics because then i wouldn't idolize him. you can see the looks on their faces. this really scarred them and really hurt. no birthdays. no graduations. never calling. the sense that, you know what? you don't matter anymore. i'm with the kardashian kids who he genuinely loves and his two youngest daughters and that's it. you're gone. >> do you think oftentimes great achievement comes from a personal loss or a sense of -- i don't know -- inferiority or some -- something? it comes from pain. do you think his incredible

accomplishments as an olympian were in fact rooted in his -- in bruce jenner's feelings of i am -- i am a woman, i am meant to be a woman? >> yes. i think he became a really good athlete. and he looked for diversions in life. he said, what can i do in which i don't have to think about this, i don't have to deal with myself, and i want to prove my masculinity. because that's a big deal in our society. and he said, what better diversion is there than the decathlon. snu the first time you saw caitlyn jenner, what went through your mind? >> i saw caitlyn jenner the first time was after march 15th. march 15th is when she had very -- not drastic but ten hours of plastic surgery and then literally that day became caitlyn. look, first time i saw her you go -- you know, you don't -- you're uncomfortable because you don't know what to say. you don't want to offend. i'm used to bruce. the voice is still bruce. >> you even tripped up in terms of what pronoun to use. >> totally. >> you write that caitlyn actually still trips up. >> we're all adjusting.

caitlyn says, you bet this is a weird story. i mean, it's weird because we have to get our arms around this, which is hard. we don't -- i don't know a lot of transgender men or women. none of us do yet. we're learning a lot about them, which is great. he says, let's face it. it's bruce jenner, america's god. he was a god in 1976. i'm 60 years old. i remember vividly those olympics because the united states got its clock cleaned by the soviet union and east germany. we won no medals in track. one individual medal. bruce saved us. sports is powerful. it's politics. >> one of the things you wrote in the article which i didn't realize -- maybe a lot of people were surprised. you said about yourself. you said i've been a cross dresser with big-time fetish for women's leather and an open critic of the often arbitrary delineation between men and women's clothing. >> yes. >> did you talk to caitlyn about that? do you think that helped in paving the way to get this access? >> yes. >> the access you got was incredible. >> the access was incredible.

it was initiated by brandon carter a year ago. he said let's talk to him when bruce was still bruce. we think this is a major story. the lines of communication were open. i was selected because of the sports connection. i wrote "friday night lights" so there was a sports connection. part of it was -- i wrote a lengthy story for "gq" about i like women's clothing, i do cross-dress. i know what it's like to be different and how a lot of people will ridicule you as i was ridiculed. tolerance is difficult. so that gave us a common bond. for me it was -- i know to some degree what you're going through and i know to some degree how hard it is to be different than people's expectations of you. >> i do want to point our cross-dressing is obviously very different than transgender. >> very different. i don't want to presume that i'm in your footsteps. >> i think you point of i know what it's like on some level to be made fun of, to be different. i get that. >> yeah. right. >> the other thing, the secrecy surrounding the way you wrote

this article was intense. i haven't heard of procedures like these short of like nsa-related stories. >> like the dark ages of journalism. >> how did you do it? >> we used the phone. it was off the grid. making corrections were arduous. >> you did it on a computer but it wasn't connected to the internet? >> it wasn't connected to the "vanity fair" system. and everything would be by phone. we were literally writing it out on hand. every correction was by phone. it took endless amounts of hours. >> because you were afraid of the circus by surrounds him in terms -- caitlyn and formerly bruce jenner in terms of paparazzi and people following. >> and elite. and a leak. you know, i mean, look, those pictures are incredible. and we didn't want them out before -- before. we didn't want the piece out. neither did caitlyn. caitlyn said i will not let a paparazzi make money off me. because that's a big deal. you know, this is the -- i will not let a paparazzi make money off me.

so if i have to stay in my house for two months, i will do it. that's basically what she's done. >> and you talked to her subsequently, after the photo came out. >> yes. >> what was her response? >> overwhelmed. overwhelmed. >> her twitter handle has exploded. >> i think it's had a great impact because i think she realizes i do have a responsibility. i have a responsibility to the transgender community. i have a responsibility to urge tolerance, and i think, you know, without the reaction, both this and diane sawyer's interview, i think it would have been very, very different. she knows that she can help people if she wants. she can make a major, major difference. and has. >> already has. fascinating article. congratulations. >> thank you. just ahead a city accused of targeting pet owners and their dogs to generate cash. if the owners can't pay the fines, their pets are killed. we're keeping them honest. here at friskies, cats are in charge of approving every new recipe. because it's cats who know best what cats like to eat.

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released their report we along with with our colleagues at cnn money have been investigating other questionable and possibly illegal tactics other cities may be using to raise revenue. in colorado springs, we found what some are calling a blatant shake-down, not by the police but by animal control officials. here is randi kaye. >> reporter: they are names are jake and lucy. home is colorado springs, with the mcadam family, who adopted both of them. but now both of these dogs, family pets, are staring down a possible death sentence, accused of killing a neighborhood cat. >> had your dogs ever harmed or killed an animal before? >> no. >> had they ever been aggressive before? >> no. they've bit anything. >> the pike's peak ranger society says it has no choice, the dogs are considered dangerous under colorado law. so the district attorney has filed criminal misdemeanor charges against caitlin mcadam and is threatening to euthanize the dogs. this is all because someone

thinks they saw mcadam's dogs kill that cat back in january. caitlin and her husband had no idea anything was wrong until animal control showed up at their house to seize the family's dogs. she says her dogs didn't kill the cat. >> they thought we could go to the humane society, prove that and get them back. >> she could not have been more wrong. caitlin was later told there would have to be a probable cause hearing to determine if the county could hold her dogs. and there's more. caitlin had just ten days to come up with $1200 to cover the fees for her dogs' incarceration, no payment and the dogs would be euthanized within days. the case of jake and lucy is hardly unique. in fact, an investigation by cnn money, which looked at 15 different cities around the country, found thousands of active warrants against pet owners. these warrants are for infractions that include a barking dog, a dog without a

license, and an animal loose in the neighborhood. and this may be about a lot more than pets. it may be about money. a lot of it. the fines and fees raise millions of dollars across the country, for cash-poor towns and cities. but caitlin is convinced some animal control officials are targeting low-income families, those who can't afford to pay. >> the fact that i could be looking at jail time for something like this is just ridiculous. i just -- i feel like if i were somebody living in a gated community or something that this wouldn't even be an issue, this wouldn't be happening. >> as steep as the fines are, people like caitlin mcadam say animal control knows they'll find a way to come up with the money to save their beloved animals. >> did you have that kind of money? >> i found that kind of money, but, no, i did not have that kind of money. i had to come up with it. >> at the pike's peak regional humane society in colorado

springs we asked for an explanation as to why jake and lucy, who have never been in trouble before, are facing a death sentence. >> there is no mistake. people are notified to get the money within ten days of the hearing. >> what if they can't get the money? >> there's always ways for people to be able to come up with the money to do this. >> always? that's not exactly the case. in stockton, california, this siberian husky mix was seized by animal control in 2013 after he had escaped from a back yard. his owner couldn't afford to pay the fine to get him out. it was about $180. >> i was crying. my husband was crying. i begged them. i begged them, please, you know, can we do anything. she says animal control refused to budge on the fine, even after she told them she had lost her job. in the end her family dog, chunk, just four years old, was

euthanized over less than $200. >> it was like killing one of my kids. it really was. we were devastated. >> the animal services manager for the city, who was hired after geralyn's dog was put to death told us it was a terrible mistake. >> it appears that it was more about the getting the $171 or the $183 that was being asked instead of getting the animal returned to the owner, which now that is what would occur. >> back in colorado, after nearly three months locked up, the dogs, lucy and jake, got a reprieve. they are home, temporarily. only because the judge ruled they wouldn't be a danger to the community if they were under strict supervision. now they have to wear muzzles when walking outside. they can't be walked together. and if outside off-leash, they have to stay in the yard where there is a six-foot fence. meanwhile, caitlin's attorney says the d.a. is trying to cut a deal.

>> the d.a.'s offer is plead guilty and we will kill your dogs and that's your offer. >> so she can avoid time if she agrees to have her dogs be put down. >> yes. >> otherwise she risks going to jail. >> up to six months, yes. >> to pay the attorney fees and fines caitlin's family sold one of their cars and used their tax refund to come up with the rest of the money. in all, she says, she spent about $9,000 so far to save her dogs. >> is it worth it? >> i mean, yeah. i can't let them just come into my house and kill my dogs. >> what do they mean to you and your family? >> they are our family. sorry. they are our family. i mean -- they're living animals. they have souls. they just can't come into our house and take them and kill them without even proving that they did anything. >> citing an ongoing investigation, the district attorney's office wouldn't comment. >> randi. there is no evidence. somebody says they think they

saw a dog kill the cat. i mean, apparently there's no actual evidence of this. for the humane society lady to say everybody can just come up with this kind of money is just not true. >> obviously they can't. we studied that one example but there are many others. >> where do the two dogs stand now. >> they go back to court this week to finalize a settlement which anderson, curiously enough the d.a. put the new settlement on the table once they got wind that we were out there interviewing caitlin and her family and her attorney. the new deal doesn't mean any jail time or dogs being killed. everybody will be fine, luckily. caitlin will have to -- what she plans to agree to pleading guilty to one count of a dog at large and pay a $45 fine. here is the kicker. that doesn't sound like a lot of money. she has now paid more than $11,000. >> they sold a car. >> their tax refund. >> $11,000 in fees and fines to keep their dogs alive. as you said, the county has 0 proof that her dogs did anything wrong. she won't see a penny back.

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the xfinity tv go app. now with live tv on the go. enjoy over wifi or on verizon wireless 4g lte. plus enjoy special savings when you purchase any new verizon wireless smartphone or tablet from comcast. visit comcast.com/wireless to learn more. a question. can someone be elected president with the majority of people doubting his or her honesty? if the numbers in a new cnn poll do not improve hillary clinton might just learn the answer firsthand. we should point out the polls are snapshots in time, however, they are also points along a trend line. her line for now is going down. chief national correspondent john king has the new numbers tonight. not great news for the clinton campaign. >> no, anderson, they're not great numbers. she is still the front runner for the democratic nomination.

but when you look deeper there could be trouble. come general election. maybe some democrat will try to take advantage of this. does hillary clinton inspire confidence? only 49% of americans say that now, down from 58% in march 2014. back into politics, numbers are down. let's keep going through the numbers. look at this. do you have a favorable opinion of hillary clinton? all voters, 46% now. look how this has dropped. 59% in november, '14, down ten points from a year ago. again, her numbers are going down as she starts to campaign for the presidency. independents. critical in the general election? only 41% of independents have a favorable opinion of the woman who likely to be the democratic nominee for president. you see again it's down ten points from a year ago, down from 56% in november. that's a problem. let's move up. here is another big question. is hillary clinton honest and trustworthy? is your next president honest and trustworthy? that's a big question in an election. only 42% of americans say yes to that question when it comes to hillary clinton. again, down a lot from 56%.

in march of last year, down 50% from march of this year. look at this, anderson, among democrats even a bit of a hit. 73% of democrats say yes to that question, she is still very well liked among democrats but that's down from 88% in march 2014. this is a problem. this is where the super pack friends of hers and maybe even the clinton campaign will have to spend precious resources they'd rather spend trying to impress republicans and improve her standing on these character issues, especially honest and trustworthy. >> what do her prospects look like against various republican candidates? >> you can look at this one either glass half empty or glass half full. history says republicans should win after a two-term democratic president. that's why so many democrats rallied around hillary clinton so early. they think she is the most formidable general election candidate. she barely beats rand paul at this point by one point in a national poll. marco rubio is only three points behind hillary clinton. scott walker, the wisconsin governor, loses to her by three points right now. jeb bush loses by eight points. ted cruz by nine. if you're in the clinton

campaign, you can say we're just getting started at least we're a little ahead. if you're republicans, at least the top five right here, you're saying she is tough but beatable. >> thanks very much. that does it for us tonight. that does it for us. "isis: what should the united states do now" starts now. >> this is "the situation room" special report. the war against isis, what should the u.s. do now? the most brutal terrorists on the planet are killing their way into new corners of the world. isis fighters are slaughtering civilians, seizing cities, and recruiting americans to attack on u.s. soil. >> our coalition is on the offensive. isil is -- the defensive and isil is going to lose. >> tonight, the war against isis. what should the united states do now? some of the best military minds convene in our situation room as a battle unfolds over the president's strategy and what could be done to re